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Could Erik Campbell Be Iowa's Next Offensive Coordinator?

Hello, friends.

We're going to have a lot to discuss over the next few weeks about Iowa's next offensive coordinator. Obviously, a lot of us are salivating/masturbating over the prospect of a spread guru so that all quarters can be like the 2011 Pitt fourth quarter (because that's totally how it works), but the reality is that Ken O'Keefe's departure was hardly Kirk Ferentz's decision to make, so the notion that Ferentz would go in a decidedly different direction from a tactical standpoint probably needs a little more logical footing before it's something to seriously entertain.

Marc Morehouse over at the Gazette ran down the list of possible replacements from within, and there was this nugget about Erik Campbell buried in Lester Erb's blurb (A "Lester blerb," if you will) that I hadn't been aware of:

Lester Erb

He's been the journeyman of Ferentz's staff, starting with receivers in 2000, adding co-special teams and then moving to running backs and co-special teams.

If the hire comes from within, it's hard to say where he'd rank. Campbell has been offered a job nearly every year he's been at Iowa (Michigan came knocking when Brady Hoke took over).

Emphasis ours. So, this poses an interesting question about Campbell's desirability from outside, and one that has at least two plausible answers. And the question is this: Does Erik Campbell's status as a coveted assistant coach make him more likely to be promoted to Iowa's offensive coordinator?

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Possible answer 1: Yes, because he's a successful coach. Despite the long-term status of coaches like KOK, Norm Parker, and Lester Erb, the strata in which collegiate assistants exist (FBS positional coach, FBS coordinator/assistant head coach) are hardly static; look at Joe Philbin's ascension to NFL head coach from Iowa offensive line coach in the matter of a decade. Assistants usually come and go, and it's almost a little troubling when they don't; football coaching job status usually follows the military "up or out" model -- though hardly to the same rigid extent, since we're talking about hundreds of different directly competing employers in Division I alone.

Still, considering the competitive nature of coaching, coaches are almost always loath to turn down possibilities for career advancement, and the odds of Erik Campbell getting a coordinating job -- even at a non-BCS or even FCS school -- over the next few years are probably pretty significant. And most importantly, this is a rare opportunity for Kirk Ferentz to lock up Campbell long-term without having to ditch a sitting assistant beforehand. Ferentz isn't the firing type (if I were a head coach, I wouldn't be either, for whatever it's worth), so it's now or never to give Campbell the raise/promotion that'll keep him in Iowa City long-term, and Ferentz has to be aware of that.

Possible answer 2: No, because it's not a move that Ferentz has to make if he doesn't think it's perfect. Contra the earlier points, the fact is that Erik Campbell has never been a coordinator in his entire coaching career, Yes, he was Lloyd Carr's assistant head coach at Michigan for five years, and that is absolutely worth something, but the fact is that Campbell has never run an offense before, and Kirk Ferentz could hardly be blamed for wanting a coordinator with a resume of running an offense that Ferentz is familiar with. The wide receivers coach is hardly calling any plays in a Kirk Ferentz program, after all.

Moreover, even though Michigan came calling before last season to reinstall Campbell at WR coach, Campbell turned them down, and he didn't even need a promotion at Iowa to sweeten the deal. He's still not an assistant head coach, like he was under Carr. As Morehouse notes, Campbell now has an established history of turning down job offers to stay at Iowa. You know who else has an established history of turning down job offers to stay at Iowa? Kirk Ferentz himself.

Last, Ferentz has a history of letting assistants walk instead of promoting them. Obviously, that's because the coordinator position has never been open, but in 2000, Ferentz had a future NFL head coach (Philbin) and a future 2-time (so far) Rose Bowl coach on his coaching roster (Bret Bielema) -- not to mention future Arizona Cardinals DL coach Ron Aiken and future horrible SDSU head coach Chuck Long -- and none of them received significant promotions, opting instead to pursue better opportunities elsewhere. Hey, that's how coaching works. Up or out.

So if Ferentz doesn't feel like Campbell is the best man for the offensive coordinator job right now, he clearly has no qualms about letting them go off somewhere else, and that's okay! It's the nature of the industry. The college football world is full of full of positional coaches and coordinators who have their own ideas about offenses, and the vast majority of them at FCS and above would at listen to Ferentz.

So what do you think?

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by Notclevr on Feb 4, 2012 5:27 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Which one is Mista Cah-ti-air?

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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 5, 2012 9:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Didn't

Epstein recently pass away? Those kids always learned a life lesson.

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by IowaPharmer on Feb 5, 2012 7:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Wait.

So Michigan is now trying to poach a guy they let go? (Campbell)

What a bunch of maize-and-blue-douches.

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by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 4:28 PM CST reply actions  

Well, Notre Dame never fired the guy, so I don't have as big a problem there.

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by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, would RichRod have kept him?

Because, if not, then that’s about the same as a firing, to me.

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by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Probably not

He wanted his own guys which is completely understandable, as is Hoke wanting to bring back in a great coach who had worked with in the past. I don’t see how it makes them douchey at all.

by NorseHawk on Feb 4, 2012 6:10 PM CST up reply actions  

What makes them douchey

is that they shoved a National Title-winning coach (Carr) out the door, including most of his staff.

Then reversed course 3 or 4 years later and were trying to bring guys back from conference opponents, for what would probably be a similar position (Campbell doesn’t get the OC at Michigan, right?)

To me, the whole picture is a contrast to the “Michigan men – we do things in a classy manner” image that they like to portray. But, I guess it isn’t the first time (Tractor Traylor’s SUVs, etc).

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by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Have you read Three and Out?

If you’re upset about the Michigan situation, it may be an interesting read. I’ve not been able to find it locally and have yet to convince myself to order it online.

by The Mexican't on Feb 4, 2012 7:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Have not.

I think I’ve heard of it, awhile back.

We’ll see how quick I get to it, as I have several sports books laying around that I either have yet to read, or am half-way done with.

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by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

/Zook'd

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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 5, 2012 9:38 AM CST up reply actions  

As Morehouse notes, Campbell now has an established history of turning down job offers to stay at Iowa.

This seems like a bad reason to NOT give a talented coach a chance to be a coordinator. I’m not fully on-board the “Campbell for OC” train, but I also think that KF should NOT use loyalty as a justification for NOT giving someone more money or more responsibility. After all, if Iowa’s ADs had used that thought process, Ferentz might “only” be making 1.5 or 2 million dollars per year right now.

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by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 4:33 PM CST reply actions  

Are there any player/recruits that may loose interest and ask for transfers?

Im thinking the young rb’s or qb’s that were looking forward to the status quo “professional offense” but anyone in particular?

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by chuck longs mom on Feb 4, 2012 4:45 PM CST reply actions  

I hope not..

I think we drafted a pretty descent rookie class this year and am looking forward to following them though their career (like always)

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by chuck longs mom on Feb 4, 2012 4:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Good to have you back, Jacobi!

My personal take on the OC job is that Campbell gets it. Chances are pretty good that at least a chunk of the terminology would remain in place, making for an easier transition for the offense. Plus, it seems that it would be easier to bring someone in from outside to be a position coach versus a coordinator. I thought for sure last night that Brian Ferentz would be a sure thing as a position coach, but after thinking about it, I don’t think he’ll leave the Pats. McDaniels clearly wants to be a HC and if rumors are to be believed, BF was an option for BB to be the play caller had JMcD turned him down, so I don’t think he would even make the jump to college position coach.

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by Swarley on Feb 4, 2012 4:47 PM CST reply actions  

An positive transition would be good

but we need some changes on the offensive side of the ball. We don’t need more of the same.
I already miss Ken, but we don’t need more of the same facilitated by an easy transition.

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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 5, 2012 9:59 AM CST up reply actions  

We need to find a guy named Wang

Then we won’t have to think up any new jokes.

by Brock Sampson on Feb 4, 2012 4:51 PM CST reply actions  

The only good Asian OC ever was Norm Chow

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by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Mao was solid on defense

Long March/d

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by Blackheartnopants on Feb 4, 2012 5:12 PM CST via Android app up reply actions   1 recs

Yep.

Some of his ideas were downright revolutionary.

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by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 5:43 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

8,000 miles in a year while defending against a force nearly three times your size?

That’s both solid offense AND defense. It’s like he had Mike Martz and Buddy Ryan as generals.

by mikjones24 on Feb 4, 2012 5:51 PM CST up reply actions  

If I'm Ferentz and I want to keep Campbell without giving him the OC position,

I take advantage of the OC hire to restructure and give him quarterbacks. Solid raise and the title of WR and QB coach might be enough to keep him around – that is, if he wasn’t going to stay around regardless. Plus, what’s not to like about having the same coach working with WR’s and the QB?

by Third Generation Hawk on Feb 4, 2012 4:51 PM CST reply actions  

If Soup doesn't get OC

And you give him another title, I think the only one he would get is Associate HC.

by tigerhawk61 on Feb 4, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed: that would be a good title for him, too at this point.

But seriously, if he’s not going to be OC, make him the QB coach. I know there’s a lot more to quarterbacking than hucking the ball to the receivers, but Soup is by all accounts a great coach, and if somebody has to coach our quarterbacks, we might as well have the same guy coaching the player who throws the ball and the players who catch the ball. Maybe they can practice some sort of mind meld.

by Third Generation Hawk on Feb 4, 2012 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

He doesn't have enough spots for an OC that doesn't take a position

so if you’re going to make Campbell the quarterbacks coach, the new OC would have to coach another position (presumably WR, which KOK did in his first season here). Two questions: Has Ferentz decided he wants his OC to coach QB’s because he wants his coordinator and quarterback on the same page (I would guess yes, but it’s a guess) and, more importantly, if you think Campbell is good enough to keep around but not good enough for OC, you’re probably still going to lose him to an OC job in the near future. Loyalty only goes so far.

Also, there’s no raise with the change in position, or at least there hasn’t been when other assistants have changed positional responsibilities in the past.

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by Patrick Vint on Feb 4, 2012 6:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I believe he's saying that he would add the quarterbacks responsibility to Campell's current WR position.

Then, the OC would not need to take control of a position. Ferentz deciding as you’ve suggested that he wants his OC to be on the same level as his quarterbacks makes plenty of sense, though.

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by hkobb7 on Feb 5, 2012 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Couldn't he make him assistant head coach and leave him as a position coach?

This would be a boost in status and pay and he could still bring in someone new.

by Squawkeye on Feb 6, 2012 8:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah! Look at what he did with QB Marvin McNutt!

Wait, that’s not what you meant, is it?

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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 5, 2012 9:43 AM CST up reply actions  

I think Campbell is the best option personally

with a QB coach hired to take over the open space left.

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by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 4, 2012 5:01 PM CST reply actions  

considering Ferentz's conservative nature

perhaps this is a solution to potential deflections?

seriously?

by PSD on Feb 4, 2012 8:28 PM CST up reply actions  

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by HoyaGoon on Feb 5, 2012 8:47 AM CST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

I agree with KF's take on not promoting simply to keep an assistant.

The coordinator positions are too important to keep any position coach if the guy wouldn’t be a quality fit for the position.

My hope is they get some “new blood” in the program. I fully expect that KF with have a ‘pro-style’ offense that’s going to be focused around the run and depending on a good OL.

But, my expectation is that there will be some variance in the offensive play calling than what we’ve seen. I really think that could play to Iowa advantage. Greater flexibility in adapting the offense to the available personnel is something I think the program could benefit from. That includes spreading the field more, and “the Wildcat” or at least adapting the offense to use more of the run-spread style of offense. Not talking about going to changing to a spread but taking advantage of getting kids into space more often.

by Steven Dailey on Feb 4, 2012 5:55 PM CST reply actions  

You will get the screen pass and you will like it!

Otherwise, your post makes me lawl each time I read “Wildcat” and “run-spread.”

Have you noticed who our head coach is? Because to KF a “spread” is what you do during warm-ups.

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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 5, 2012 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

At this point on Feb. 4th...

… it almost has to be someone on the staff. As Morehouse said, spring practice is about six weeks away. This is playing into Ferentz’s hands exactly as he envisioned.

by Lukateake on Feb 4, 2012 6:45 PM CST reply actions  

Ferentz, monitoring BHGP from his secret lair, says ...

“Excellent! All is going according to plan. I have Vint and Jacoby eggsACTlee where I want them.”

Das Stochern gewinnt.

by Blackheartnopants on Feb 4, 2012 6:55 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

I dont agree with promoting to keep an assistant either

but i also think Soup is more than qualified for the job.

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by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 4, 2012 7:58 PM CST reply actions  

Welcome back Mr. Jacobi

I know it’s not what you wanted to happen, but selfishly, we have one of the best internetz writers back in the fold!!

Also #SOUP4DC

All fantastic points, I think you have to take a chance at this point, if you’re bringing in someone from outside to be DC (Please) then an internal OC hire is certainly ok in my book.

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by The Nihilist on Feb 4, 2012 8:19 PM CST reply actions  

Soup gets OC and QB's

P.J. Fleck comes in to do WR’s

OK, probably not.

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by Flakbait on Feb 4, 2012 9:03 PM CST reply actions  

So...

…the fact is that Erik Campbell has never been a coordinator in his entire coaching career, Yes, he was Lloyd Carr’s assistant head coach at Michigan for five years, and that is absolutely worth something, but the fact is that Campbell has never run an offense before, and Kirk Ferentz could hardly be blamed for wanting a coordinator with a resume of running an offense that Ferentz is familiar with…

Perhaps with Coach Soup as the OC Ferentz can help mold him into the OC he (Ferentz) wants/needs for his system. Soup does have some experience with the system (re: Michigan stint) and being involved here the past few years. Just my thoughts…

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by KF Bubblegum on Feb 4, 2012 10:15 PM CST reply actions  

Did Campbell's arrival lead to the TE being de-emphasized in the offense?

I really miss that part of Iowa’s offense. It’s probably due to personell more than anything but just a thought.

by Chief Okemos on Feb 5, 2012 7:45 AM CST reply actions  

No.

Just no. It had everything to do with personnel and wasn’t even an issue until this season

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by HoyaGoon on Feb 5, 2012 8:44 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Brandon Myers, TonyMo, and Allen Reisner would like a word with you, but they're busy counting their NFL lucre right now.

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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 5, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Campbell was here in 2008

so the last two years of Tony Mo’s career were with Campbell on staff

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Feb 5, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

All Campbell has ever done since coming to Iowa...

…is succeed brilliantly as a recruiter and position coach.

Promote the man, hire a QB coach, and after Iowa wins the 2015 Rose Bowl, name Soup as the successor to KF at the end of 2020 season.

by Roosevelt on Feb 5, 2012 8:12 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

So kill me - I'm dumb for repeating this.

Rumor on one of the dumber Iowa msg boards has Iowa announcing a DC on Tuesday.

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by FiveSecondRuleChef on Feb 5, 2012 10:14 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

I don't know. I'm just a parrot.

It's so sad how a family can be torn apart by something as simple as a pack of wild dogs.

by FiveSecondRuleChef on Feb 5, 2012 10:19 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Do you want a cracker?


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by Bucketochicken on Feb 5, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Pining for the fjords?

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by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 7, 2012 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

It isn't all that dumb

Announce who it is on Tuesday and he’s in town Wednesday for the presser. Everybody knew about Fran before his official introduction, so it’s not like it would be anything new.

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by Flakbait on Feb 5, 2012 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Nope.

You have to make Tom Bradley wear sunglasses and a fake mustache for 24 hours. I’m pretty sure there’s a Big Ten rule regarding this.

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by WaterlooChazz on Feb 5, 2012 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

So I was thinking last night...

Shouldn’t we be looking around at the coaches of smaller schools that score a bunch too?

by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Feb 5, 2012 11:07 AM CST reply actions  

I think KF is less interested in "scoring a bunch"

and more interested in time of possession with long grind it out scoring drives.

It's so sad how a family can be torn apart by something as simple as a pack of wild dogs.

by FiveSecondRuleChef on Feb 5, 2012 11:15 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Pretty excellent summation, right here.

An engrained philosophy. As engrained as they come.

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by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 5, 2012 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

That given perhaps recruiting prowess is more critical than coordinating skill?

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by BentNotBroken on Feb 5, 2012 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

that's a rec for succinct excellence

important to keep the macro-level strategy in mind moving forward

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by sailorjerry on Feb 6, 2012 8:37 AM CST up reply actions  

KOK coaching tree > Ferentz coaching tree

We all have this coaching tree stuff backwards

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by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Feb 5, 2012 3:24 PM CST reply actions  

Sons returning to improve the staff?

No shit mang.

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by BentNotBroken on Feb 5, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions  

There's a thread in the links

not many of us there

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by chitownhawkeye on Feb 5, 2012 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

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