Wait, What? Ken O'Keefe To Leave For Miami Dolphins?
by RossWB on Feb 3, 2012 4:32 PM CST
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PrintThis is not hard news -- yet. What it is a rumor with a lot of smoke. The rumor in question is Ken O'Keefe leaving Iowa to become the Quarterbacks Coach for the Miami Dolphins (and new head coach Joe Philbin, who worked with O'Keefe on the Iowa staff for several years early in Ferentz's tenure).
I think KOK to the Dolphins has and or is happening. It's 5 on Friday, so you know what that means.
Um... wow.
EDIT: And confirmation from the Des Moines Register, too. It's really happening, people.
We'll have much more on this as soon as we get more information.
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Holy Shit
yay, now another month long search for a new coordinator
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey
Brian Ferentz will probably be hired next week
SMA may have really been onto something
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
I thought that might ire you
Not really trolling you, it’s just that SMA had an entire article about it.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 6:26 PM CST up reply actions
What do you call the feeling you experience
when something that you have semi-longed for happens and makes you both excited and afraid?
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
by Lycurgus on Feb 3, 2012 4:37 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
sharting makes me feel
embarrassed and icky.
kok, leaving with a promotion, makes me rethink some previously jumped-to conclusions and very worried.
by iowabeakster on Feb 4, 2012 5:28 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
Marriage???
Seriously, I know exactly what you’re saying. I don’t know that I’ve longed for it so much as thought about what would happen if he DID leave.
by CarrollHawk on Feb 3, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
trepidation?
There’s probably some 20-letter German word for it.
I have to say that I don’t really have much fear in this. I’ve wanted KOK to go for some time now, the sole reason I’ve been OK with him staying on is that it’s KF’s choice and I’ll back him on his coordinator choices.
I’m excited for the possibility of an offense that finishes in the top half of the B10 most years.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 5:00 PM CST up reply actions
I just worry about who they will hire next
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
Yeah.
Many people here thought KOK never “stood up” to Kirk enough to demand more pizazz or change. To me, I doubt Reese Morgan or Brian Ferentz does any better, and might not be as competent as KOK. If Erb gets the promotion, half the Internetz will implode. Maybe Soup is ready, or maybe not. I don’t think Eric Johnson is ready.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, after some of the recent posts and coaching examinations
I just started to realize that he has actually produced some good QBs.
If a new OC comes in and doesn’t make much of a difference with play calling (and whatnot) will people (realizing that the problem wasn’t KOK) start to clamor for KF to go?
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2012 5:39 PM CST up reply actions
our offense simply can't get much worse
than it has been in the past 5+ years, some of those with excellent QBs and one with Shonn Greene. We may lose some QB development but at least we’ll put up more points. I’m nearly certain of that.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 6:27 PM CST up reply actions
I'm (obviously) hoping you're right.
I just don’t want to endure the gnashing and rending if we don’t improve in the first few games. I see it a mile away and hope that doesn’t become our actual course.
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2012 7:16 PM CST up reply actions
you know that course is pre-determined.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 7:35 PM CST up reply actions
I'm about to have sex?
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Feb 3, 2012 7:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
I resemble this comment
It is like climbing a high mountain and finding nothing at the top except a restaurant where they sell ginger beer, surrounded by fog but equipped with wireless.
by Lycurgus on Feb 3, 2012 7:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for posting this Ross.
I’ve been following this most of the afternoon, but was leery of saying anything here.
This is going to be interesting to follow…
I just heard that with Morehouse on the radio
craziness.
There are many things that go into switching to the NFL.
White Horn Gold Pants
WAITWAITWAIT
We haven’t has a new coordinator since Hayden was here, and all of a sudden….I…umm…
I don’t even know how to process this.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
NO NAUTICAL METAPHORS!!
This isn’t FUCKING Bowdoin
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
Your reference is completely lost on me.
Had to google it, still not sure.
by Jason Hirschhorn on Feb 3, 2012 4:45 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, sorry
I blacked out for a second and saw that I posted something. One of my other personalities is a veteran of the Barbary Coast who now teaches rhetoric at Amherst.
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
Marine?
Did he fight pirates?
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Feb 3, 2012 4:52 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Barbary Pirate
It is like climbing a high mountain and finding nothing at the top except a restaurant where they sell ginger beer, surrounded by fog but equipped with wireless.
Ah, yes.
The scourge of fledgling American trans-Atlantic commerce.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2012 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
NAS Brunswick is an important place, I tell you!
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
Can I use baseball metaphors?
Because every writer really should.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 6:28 PM CST up reply actions
Possibly
just stay away from the mariners
It is like climbing a high mountain and finding nothing at the top except a restaurant where they sell ginger beer, surrounded by fog but equipped with wireless.
I will now recite exactly half of "The Old Man And The Sea"
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 7:49 PM CST up reply actions
It was a big fish. Dude was old. Sharks ate it. The boy believed.
Done, the whole thing.
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 3, 2012 7:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I do not know how to process all of this
Mixed emotions. Just a weird off-season to say the least.
Please no
Not yet. In five years, maybe, but not yet
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Feb 3, 2012 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe not as OC
But say, maybe Erik Campbell gets promoted to OC (which I would be so totally in favor for), making room for at least 1 new offensive position coach. Brian Ferentz could certainly come in under that scenario. Whether he wants to or not right now when he’s just really starting to get some recognition in the NFL, who knows.
by Captain n Diet Coker on Feb 3, 2012 4:45 PM CST up reply actions
Agree.
Like CnDC said he comes on board now and then in a few years becomes OC.
And then a few years after that he becomes HC.
And then a few years after that he brings us a mNC.
Ok, maybe I’m getting a bit ahead of myself. But I DO think Brian would be a great addition to the staff.
I'm fine with that
well, maybe not fine, I’m still a little leery of him being on the staff without more outside experience, but it would be a decent move
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Feb 3, 2012 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
I'm inclined to agree, but the Pats are really high on him
A lot of sources had him as their second choice if they couldn’t bring McDaniels back. And if he brought an offensive system similar to what the Pats run, that would be pretty cool.
#PeytonManning4IowaOC
Not gonna happen, I know
by kythom on Feb 3, 2012 5:24 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
;dlkjfa;ldksngsa;ldknad
/mind asplode
by Captain n Diet Coker on Feb 3, 2012 4:43 PM CST reply actions
That is a lot of independent clauses of aneurism
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
by Lycurgus on Feb 3, 2012 4:44 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I should really learn to never underestimate Ferentz
Especially on the Friday afternoon before a just announced press conference.
by Captain n Diet Coker on Feb 3, 2012 4:47 PM CST up reply actions
Going with Jefferson bourbon myself. Not really celebrating this – basically its just Friday.
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 3, 2012 7:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm just drinking because it's a friday
gang fight gang fight
my whole gang is down to fight
Barney Barney
chicken for us to no eat
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2012 7:55 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
MEEEEEE
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2012 9:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If this is true
I want Junior-Senior.
Yes, I am a jerk.
by Ratface McDougal on Feb 3, 2012 4:45 PM CST reply actions
Nah.
Maybe if there’s a good hire. But KOK was a decent enough coach and guy.
Ceci n'est pas un blogue.
He was in charge of the offense and won games for us....
But he also might have lost some for us, too.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Feb 3, 2012 6:09 PM CST up reply actions
He worked hard
there’s no reason for us to be jack asses as he walks out the door.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
by Flakbait on Feb 3, 2012 6:14 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Hey, I'm not the one who called a naked bootleg from our own 5 against jNW.
But I’m also not the one who called The Drive where McNutt ran The Slant against Sparty either.
Thirteen years at one school in the same role is nearly not possible. Best of luck to him, he was part of everything that got me running in the streets yelling “TOUCHDOWN IOWA TOUCHDOWN IOWA!!”
by hawkinsandmelrose on Feb 3, 2012 6:20 PM CST up reply actions
That same naked boot went for 6 earlier that game.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Feb 3, 2012 6:21 PM CST up reply actions
I'll play this game:
So Fitzgerald wasn’t expecting it again? Ken surprised him with a second, predictable, obvisouly visable formation for the same play? Or was there supposed to be a DE unblocked running full speed at Stanzi?
That cost us the B1G Title. Fact.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Feb 3, 2012 6:23 PM CST up reply actions
Look, you're right.
We can do this all night. Except for I’m not going to argue with an arrogant ass all Friday night.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Feb 3, 2012 6:26 PM CST up reply actions
Just because Ross didn't put the "don't be a douchebag" clause on the post, doesn't mean it doesn't apply
by rupertj on Feb 3, 2012 6:28 PM CST up reply actions 20 recs
this.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
Can I make this go plaid?
/ rec
// not plaid
/// haz a sad
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by EnergizerHawk on Feb 3, 2012 11:17 PM CST up reply actions
Hey I gave Ken credit then Norm's Toes
stunk up the place…
by hawkinsandmelrose on Feb 3, 2012 6:28 PM CST up reply actions
No it didn't.
Ohio State beat Penn State that day, so Iowa still would have had to beat Ohio State to win the title. Iowa lost to Ohio State.
Watching the Cubs piss it away for 31 years.
Technically not correct.
An Iowa win in Columbus would have given them an OUTRIGHT B1G title, but a win over jNW (a healthy Stanzi probably wins that game) and a loss in C-bus would have given Iowa a shared B1G title with OSU at 7-1 (just like 2002 and 2004).
I think, if I'm not mistaken, Vandenberg was QB....
….because Stanzi had a broken ankle. Stanzi may have made a difference, but nahh. Probably not. You’re right.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Feb 3, 2012 9:46 PM CST up reply actions
Have you been reading the posts?
Pretty much the theme here guy. Shit on O’Keefe, rule out the likely candidates, and replay games where he maks a batshit crazy play call.
I’ve gotten my wish, now I have to face the facts that he was as much a part of the success of this team as any one player or players or Norm Parker. That may or may not turn out in my favor. But don’t act like this isn’t going on all over the place. It’s called accepting and coping.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Feb 3, 2012 10:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Have I been reading the stupid stretch of comments that you started?
No. Not really.
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2012 10:29 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
You do realize that that was BY FAR the best game
that Vandy has ever played, right? He actually gave us a chance to win. We gave up 250 yards rushing, missed a chip shot FG, Stross dropped at least 1 TD pass (if not more) and our gutless, chickenshit of an HC decided to sit on the ball with a minute and half and 2 TOs left at the end of the game.
There were dozens of reason why Iowa lost that game, and QB play was about #2334544 on the list.
It was not
It was a great game considering the circumstances, but he threw three picks and had at least one more pass that should have been picked off. He made some really pretty throws in that game and was better than he had any right to be, but he’s definitely had better games since.
by NorseHawk on Feb 4, 2012 12:52 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
THat game was classic -- we now know -- Vandy
streaky, questionable, mediocre, bold, all in one game. Of course, he’s since been scouted and KOK’d.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Is this referring to the idea that KOK QBs got worse with time?
Because that is demonstrably incorrect and I don’t know how it’s become A Thing.
Everyong had low expectations for Vandy and our chance to win in that game.
He exceeded them. So that game just feels like his best game.
I think we all had reasonably high expectations for him after that, which have been somewhat brought back to reality since.
by HawkeyeInExile on Feb 4, 2012 1:11 AM CST up reply actions
Didn't DJK give us a kickoff return for a TD in that game, also?
So, I guess Vandy helped put up about 17 points in that game. Which was still a lot better than Pryor, but not exactly an overwhelming day, either.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 6:46 AM CST up reply actions
That game is a totally forgettable loss without DJK's return
Ironically, that play seems to be often forgotten when people talk about how great Vandy was that day. And though he exceeded expectations, he wasn’t quite great. Without that kickoff return, I’d give him slim chances to come back down 14.
But that’s all hypothetical. And old news.
Kinda sucks that some of my favorite Iowa games are OT losses.
by Luke Recker No-Look Pass on Feb 4, 2012 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
Vandy's TD pass to McNutt (?) in a tight space was fantastic.
by The Mexican't on Feb 4, 2012 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
Agreed, and all credit for that one
Which drive had the pass where two OSU players collided in midair going for the easy INT, allowing Moeaki to catch it for a first down?
He also had some truly awful passes. Not that we had a shortage of those with our usual starter that year.
by Luke Recker No-Look Pass on Feb 4, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
"and our gutless, chickenshit of an HC decided to sit on the ball with a minute and half and 2 TOs left at the end of the game."
Our defense was ridiculous. Things were a bit different then.
I can't help but agree with you.
This program needs new blood.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2012 9:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Don't know what to think
Hope all that wanted this are happy, but maybe it is time to rebuild and get some younger faces in at OC and DC.
Will this cause anymore defections? Players and coaches?
Lots of message board bullshit about Darrell Wilson leaving, but nothing really concrete
That would suck, he’s a great recruiter for us.
I think this is a good move for Ken too
As I’ve said before, I think he’s a solid QB coach, so this is a better fit. I will definitely be happy to be rid of some of his dumber playcalling tendencies though (I think the conservative nature of the offense is mostly on Kirk, but KOK did plenty of stupid shit within the confines of that)
yesterday there were also rumors of Reese Morgan's departure
they are just that, rumors. I have nothing more to add
seriously?
If that's true
or if there are more departures now, then there are MUCH larger issues at play. And almost none of them are good for the program
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Feb 3, 2012 10:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
or people are just upset they're not the one getting the big promotion
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 10:57 PM CST up reply actions
Anyone with any kind of ambition hates getting passed over when a company hires outside.
It basically means your boss thinks you’ve plateaued, and if you want to advance in your career, you have to go elsewhere.
So, I don’t fault these guys for leaving in a situation like this even if it does suck ass for the program. And I have a hard time believing we go super-vanilla with in-house hires right now. So we may be in for a few more assistant defections.
by HawkeyeInExile on Feb 3, 2012 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
Or perhaps some of the coaches don't feel like the University has their best interests in mind anymore.
Maybe it was the Coker thing, or maybe something else.
But we can’t make conclusions. This staff has been together a long time, and for some of them it was promotion to coordinator or bust. If they didn’t get the job and feel they want to go add a new accomplishment to their life’s work, then I can completely understand. In fact, I hope that’s ALL it is, and not a problem within the program/university.
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 4, 2012 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
Or perhaps some of the coaches don’t feel like the University has their best interests in mind anymore.
Until we have even an inkling of that, I don’t think it is good to say such things.
To me, Norm’s retirement was imminent. Kaz left to get more cash, possibly more future advancement opportunities, and a “better name-brand” to recruit with.
Let’s not even insinuate KOK’s reasons until Morehouse or Dochterman at least hint at what they find out.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 5:55 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, not many OL coches retire at 63.
Ferentz is pushing Morgan out the door. Coaches should coach until they’re 85.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Feb 3, 2012 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
You forgot to put the
/derp
under that last post
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 4, 2012 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
Not necessarily.
It might just be a few of the older assistants/coordinators deciding that they had a great run together, and that they’d like to spend more time around family/grandkids rather than trying to talk 18-year-olds into sacrificing personal interests for a team gain, and then having those 18-year-olds jump ship when they don’t get their way.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
The key aspect is the timing
waiting until now, when the coaching carousel everywhere else has stopped (meaning the pool of available hires is largely comprised of the undesirable) is not a good time to be undergoing a major staff overhaul.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
or they were loyal and waited until after signing day
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 11:49 PM CST up reply actions
ALL COACHES ARE EVIL AND HATE THEIR PLAYERS
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
by BentNotBroken on Feb 4, 2012 12:18 AM CST up reply actions
those are not mutually exclusive
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 8:52 AM CST up reply actions
I don't necessarily agree with that.
You can still pluck guys from lower-ranks (MAC, etc). And you might still pluck a few guys from the NFL.
Maybe you don’t get a lot of lateral guys right now (except Tom Bradley?)
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 11:55 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, but when is the last time the Iowa Athletic Dept surprised anyone like this?
I mean, this was out of left field, and I get the impression that they’ve known about this for a while, which is probably why the DC job has remained open too.
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"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 4, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
Happy or sad?
Scared
I ain't been droppin no eaves, sir
KOK was the main guy on Garmon right?
No chance of him attempting leave, right?
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I would be surprised
I think we sold him mostly on the playing time, which isn’t going to change any
He can't leave. He already signed a LOI
That’s why they do this stuff AFTER signing day.
Yes he can.
All the school has to do is grant him his release.
See: Coker, Marcus.
And anyone with half a brain would not grant such a release.
Forcing them to transfer and sit out a year.
It only takes a few competent administrators. Not sure if he have them around, though.
That's a pretty dick move
to force a kid to sit out a year after you just convinced him to come to your program. I believe that KF would grant that release in a heartbeat if they can’t convince him to stay
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Feb 4, 2012 8:26 AM CST up reply actions
Yes.
I may be mistaken, but I don’t recall Ferentz EVER denying a kid’s release.
Correct
If he wants to go, KF won’t stand in his way
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
And to think Paterno is his idol.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
I'm on the fence with the Bolden thing
It was clearly in the kid’s best interest to stay at PSU, so I can’t entirely fault Paterno. But it definitely was a little too heavy-handed as well.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
How in the world is that a dick move?
Kid signed on the dotted line to come here.
Decisions have consequences. I thought we were trying to teach these kids life lessons and how to function in the broader world.
Guess that isn’t the goal of higher education after all.
You're right
He might as well learn right now that people have their own best interests at heart instead of of his right now. He might as well learn that the world, or at least the NCAA, is unfair, and that he, as a 18 year old (or whatever his age is) will be punished for leaving a school if he changes his mind, because kids that age are well known for thinking long term and understanding consequences. Whereas a grown man who likely told this, and other, recruits that he would be the guy they worked with can walk away to another job with no penalties.
Maybe the life lesson that KF and the university can teach him is to understand that situations change, and if he’s enough of a man to approach the coaching staff with an open mind, to give them a chance to listen to their pitch, possibly meet the new coach, and if he still wants to leave, they can treat him like a man and grant that request. Instead of treating him like a kid and grounding him.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Feb 4, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions 9 recs
The final part of that statement
Was full of so much perspective I am truly upset that I have but one rec to give.
Very proud you've been in my home.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 5, 2012 1:51 AM CST up reply actions
meh...
I think he would definitely threaten not to do it. I feel like I remember reading that he did do that before. And the kid ended up staying and was glad he stuck it out. I don’t think he actually would if the young man decided there was no way he could stay at Iowa. But I don’t feel like I’m stretching my imagination too far to think he might tell Beathard that he isn’t quite ready to grant the release, so he should think about staying or something.
meh
There are several instances
of the U granting a kid’s release.
There might be one (the one you sort of remember) where KF didn’t.
How many kids would transfer to another school if their favorite professor left? So why expect the same, or less, in a football player?
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 5:59 PM CST up reply actions
Um, how many times a day/week will you see your favorite professor
3 times a week for 1 hour a shot? Maybe 3 (four times max) during your college career? Yeah, that’s totally the same.
You’re right that KF will generally give the kid his release, but only after he (and other coaches) really put the pressure on the kid to stay (see e.g., John Raymon).
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I could see people transferring to get away from me
It is like climbing a high mountain and finding nothing at the top except a restaurant where they sell ginger beer, surrounded by fog but equipped with wireless.
Only because you dress like an extra from DEADWOOD...
and they’re afraid that you’re going to challenge them to a duel at some point during one of your classes.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Or a dual
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 6, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
I will duil you right now
It is like climbing a high mountain and finding nothing at the top except a restaurant where they sell ginger beer, surrounded by fog but equipped with wireless.
Now you're crossing the streams!
It’s not like Ly is wearing a singlet to class. That would just be weird.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yes
I don’t want my awesome, teenage mutant ninja turtles freestyle singlet to be sullied by a couple of bedwetters
It is like climbing a high mountain and finding nothing at the top except a restaurant where they sell ginger beer, surrounded by fog but equipped with wireless.
That is possible
though I don’t dress like an extra; my wardrobe is patterned perfectly after William Bullock’s
It is like climbing a high mountain and finding nothing at the top except a restaurant where they sell ginger beer, surrounded by fog but equipped with wireless.
Then it's even more likely that they'll fear a duel from you.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Just as long as they don't bring a horse.
It is like climbing a high mountain and finding nothing at the top except a restaurant where they sell ginger beer, surrounded by fog but equipped with wireless.
Beathard is very unhappy.
dERP That’s why you pick the school not the coach. derp derp
meh
by tyger1147 on Feb 3, 2012 10:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
release coming
MattRandazzo Matt Randazzo
KOK press release expected shortly. Off to Miami. More at 6 #WQAD
seriously?
I'm still not sure how to react.
First of all, good for KOK. I don’t necessarily want to celebrate his leaving the program, because I don’t think Iowa’s offensive ineptitude is entirely KOK’s fault. That said, I’m excited to see what a new OC might mean for Iowa football.
Really feels like a win-win here.
Wow, 2 coordinators in the same year,
with another assistant thrown in as well. Time for Kirk to orchestrate another rebuild.
Get to work Captain Kirk!
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Feb 3, 2012 4:50 PM CST reply actions
HEY
KF FINALLY HAS A COACHING TREE SAPLING!!
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2012 8:52 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Appropriately, this is now green.
You can keep a gull as a pet, but you don't want to live with a seabird, okay, 'cause the noise level alone on those things...have you ever heard a gull up close? It's going to blast your eardrums out, dude.
by lo-hi-hawkeye on Feb 4, 2012 12:33 AM CST up reply actions
Bruce Pearl for OC?
HawkeyeInsider Rob Howe
Alright, after someone spotted him in IC, my source is better with this. Bruce Pearl is in Iowa City and scheduled to be at CHA tomorrow.
seriously?
if only you knew who was at that bbq
it changed tOSU basketball history forever
Her noblesse exceeded her oblige
I hope he's in the student section.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I nominate ScareCoach
See HEC’s post from earlier today.
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Feb 3, 2012 4:54 PM CST via Android app reply actions
BRING ON THE RUN AND SHOOT OFFENSE
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
by the notorious r.d.m. on Feb 3, 2012 4:55 PM CST reply actions
nobody whoo's like the Nature Boy
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
#Peyton4IowaOC
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey
by White Lightning on Feb 3, 2012 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
HELL BOY?!?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
Oh, hell yes.
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Feb 4, 2012 11:02 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
Maybe he can bring Linda Hamilton with him as a package deal.
He’ll be the “beast” DC and she’ll be the “beauty” OC.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
Iowa City as Charming? Interesting.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
That means that Bobby Elvis is Doyle. Awesome.
"I don't usually go to the top floor, but tonight I had a business meeting." -Devyn Marble
by One Night Stanzi on Feb 4, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, guys, when does Timmy B's TV contract expire?
He’s available.
/trololololol
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
he's still on his 10-year plan
I think he’s at cocktail waitress #3,498 right now. Getting close to goal!
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
2012: the year of unpredictable Iowa offense!
For a limited time only.
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Feb 3, 2012 4:58 PM CST reply actions
The Mayans were right!
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Feb 3, 2012 5:49 PM CST via Android app up reply actions 4 recs
What bowl game is on Dec 21
cause that’s where were headed
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
"This one's for all the nothingness that descends upon us tomorrow."
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 4, 2012 1:59 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This freaks me out a bit.
Both coordinators and maybe a couple assistants is maybe not a big deal at some schools, but I’ve gotten so used to the stability of the coaching staff.
Yeah,
but I think I’d rather be losing coordinators and assistants in this manner, as compared to other manners (having to fire them, having them go to rivals or conference foes, etc).
/I just realized Kaz left for a rival/conference foe. But, my point still stands for the coordinators.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
Mohouse, moproblems.
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
by hkobb7 on Feb 3, 2012 4:59 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
now with quote from Ferentz
"Ken O’Keefe has decided to leave our Iowa staff for another coaching opportunity," Ferentz said in a release. "Ken’s work contributed greatly to our program’s success during the past 13 years, and more impressively to the growth and development of the young men in our program. We wish Ken and Joanne the most success in this new chapter of his career."
seriously?
by PSD on Feb 3, 2012 5:41 PM CST up reply actions
Per my new favorite former Hawkeye on Twitter, Paki O'Meara
PakiOMeara25 Paki Tanielu O’Meara
Did the Dolphins pick up O’Keefe to play wideout? I never thought he was that good in practice. #HawkeyeNation.
by Captain n Diet Coker on Feb 3, 2012 5:00 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
PAKISNAP
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 3, 2012 5:08 PM CST up reply actions
Well..holy fuck...
Iowa Football 2012 just got a hellva lot more interesting, kids…
OC Candidates??
Eric Campbell—promote from within
Chuck Long—potential homecoming from the hell that was Kansas football
Brian Ferentz—no way that’s happening
Drawing a blank on other possibilities…
What...
You don’t want to go back to the good old days of the backpedaling 6 step drop?
by FlyingDutchman1 on Feb 3, 2012 5:22 PM CST up reply actions
Can we get Nike to make us some pro-combat tearaways?
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2012 9:57 PM CST up reply actions
I would be very much on board for this
Philly has always had good offenses during his time there.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 6:33 PM CST up reply actions
Honestly, his clock will never stop ticking
As no one is ever happy in Philly. And I simply don’t think he’s good at his job…as a DC.
Putting aside that he's not leaving an NFL coordinator position for a college one
I don’t know how much credit I give him for their offense. Andy Reid is not without his faults, but he’s an offensive genius
I think it's already been confirmed that he's not
Which is insane because he’s terrible
I think he might leave for a job with a little more security
but I have to say I know little about Philly’s inner workings on the offensive coaching. It’s just my quick observation that they were excellent on offense for many years when he was coaching that side, and their offense even took a dip the year he moved over to defense. But you may be right that the large bulk of the acclaim should go to Andy Reid.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 7:45 PM CST up reply actions
Please, God, not Chuck Long.
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
I have more of a chance than Chuckles does.
KF already pushed him out the door once.
Maybe you have an ear infucktion.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2012 1:08 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
need some peniscillin?
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 4, 2012 6:42 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
weiner
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Feb 4, 2012 10:01 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
He's gonna coach WR's
qctimes qctimes
Ken O’Keefe leaving #Hawkeyes: qctim.es/xT0yq0 He told players Friday that he will coach receivers on #Dolphins staff. (via @sbatt79)
seriously?
That's really weird if true
And seems like a step down. Makes me wonder about the circumstances of his departure.
The NFL
is never a “step down”. He’ll probably make at least 2x as much as he did at Iowa.
by FlyingDutchman1 on Feb 3, 2012 5:22 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly
I do wonder why he chose to leave. I wonder if he knows KF is heading into his last year or something. (pure speculation)
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Its been no secret...
That KOK wanted to either be a HC at a school or some other bigger opportunity. Philbin knows KOK well obviously, so its not a real shock to see Philbin reach out and pick up KOK for this position in Miami.
by FlyingDutchman1 on Feb 3, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
maybe Ferentz
felt it was time to interject some youth on the staff? or a change?
seriously?
by PSD on Feb 3, 2012 5:31 PM CST up reply actions
"Ferentz" "Change"
Which one of these things is not like the other?
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Well..thats certainly a possibility...
KF’s made it no secret either that he’s always encouraged his assistants to take advantage of opportunities when they have become available.
I’m trying to remember the college job that KOK"s name was swirling around last year….
by FlyingDutchman1 on Feb 3, 2012 5:33 PM CST up reply actions
Yes..thank you!
Couldn’t remember for the life of me…
by FlyingDutchman1 on Feb 3, 2012 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
I think it's more this
Any way you cut it, a long-tenured college OC doesn’t leave for a position NFL job without a helping hand pushing from behind.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 6:34 PM CST up reply actions
Or he was sick as hell of winter.
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
Or whomever KF is bringing in as DC
Is a logical successor and KOK decided to get while the getting was good (no open college HC positions right now)
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Feb 3, 2012 11:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I think you are seriously overestimating the salary of a first time NFL position coach
It’s hard to find numbers on it, but I would pretty surprised if they’re making twice what he made here. WR coach is pretty far down the totem pole.
KOK's Iowa Salary
was 260K/year. Position coaches in the NFL are averaging 400K a year or more now…
by FlyingDutchman1 on Feb 3, 2012 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
A quick search of the Googles pulls up at least 2 old articles claiming that some position coaches are making $400k
This LA Times article from 2005, and an article from Len Pasquerelli suggests the same type of incredible increase in assistant wages.
There’s probably a good chance that KOK is making, at least, a lateral move in terms of wages while also getting his foot in the door at the NFL level.
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2012 5:49 PM CST up reply actions
Well "some" isn't really average
It might be close to a lateral move in salary, but I think it’s probably a step back from OC for a major college team in terms of prestige. He has his foot in the NFL door now, but at his age I don’t know that WR coach is really the ticket to a huge promotion down the line. I guess we’ll see.
Those articles are also at least 5 years old.
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2012 6:09 PM CST up reply actions
Coaching Brandon Marshall got a lot more important
after his amazing Pro Bowl
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 6:35 PM CST up reply actions
And the defense isn't playing...defense
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
could it be anger at the Coker thing?
by GuttedSnowBird on Feb 3, 2012 7:31 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
I hope this isn't in response to my last Holmes chapter.
Someone had to die, Ken. It was all for the suspense.
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
by Lycurgus on Feb 3, 2012 5:13 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
You should change your handle
To Lycurga-damus. Bc you called this shit without even trying.
"I don't usually go to the top floor, but tonight I had a business meeting." -Devyn Marble
by One Night Stanzi on Feb 3, 2012 5:16 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
They call me the "prophetical dentist"
because I floss a lot.
They also call me “Minnesota sexy”, because I Ross a lot.
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
by Lycurgus on Feb 3, 2012 5:21 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Now I want to know what the verb "Ross" means.
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Feb 3, 2012 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
As in, the BHGP dictionary
To Ross
verb to appeal or impress by displaying literary ability and knowledge of Iowa-related martial contests on the internet.
To shame unruly internet posters with well-timed and rhetorically-unassailable rebukes.
Example
Man, Give Eddie a Beer just Rossed all over that troll from OBNUG.
It is like climbing a high mountain and finding nothing at the top except a restaurant where they sell ginger beer, surrounded by fog but equipped with wireless.
by Lycurgus on Feb 3, 2012 5:50 PM CST up reply actions 10 recs
Thanks,
that was some very Lycurgical Rossing right there.
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Feb 3, 2012 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
As he should.
Heathens the lot of them.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Feb 3, 2012 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
on fucking fire, Ly. On Fire.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 6:36 PM CST up reply actions
would expect nothing less
from a Wartburg man
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 4, 2012 6:42 AM CST up reply actions
Go Knights!
It is like climbing a high mountain and finding nothing at the top except a restaurant where they sell ginger beer, surrounded by fog but equipped with wireless.
Let us keep that one in mind then
It is like climbing a high mountain and finding nothing at the top except a restaurant where they sell ginger beer, surrounded by fog but equipped with wireless.
How would that work?
We cannot even agree on the correct pronunciation of “LOL”.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2012 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
Two versions
One for LOHL apologists and one for LOHL haters.
"I’m not going to comment on anything beyond where I’ve been so far." - Gary Barta
by SomeJerkPoster on Feb 4, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Lycurgadamicus, my lyrics are bottomless.
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2012 10:04 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Ain't no party like my nana's tea party! Hey! Ho!
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 4, 2012 2:01 AM CST up reply actions
Try to be more constructive with your feedback!
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2012 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
KOK was moved and wanted to contribute to the melodrama.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2012 9:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I wonder if this is the reason why
the new DC hasn’t been announced yet? KF busy interviewing for both spots…
Well..its certainly understandable..
These are the two biggest hires he’s had to make since becoming coach.
by FlyingDutchman1 on Feb 3, 2012 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
There has been rampant speculation
That a major staff shakeup could be coming post-NSD. And…here we go.
Be careful what you wish for
Best of luck to KOK. As mentioned above, he seems like a very decent man. I have been about as vocal as anyone in wanting him to go. I guess we’re about to find out if he really was what ailed the offense.
Plus, now Ross & Patrick have fuel for an entirely new series of articles.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Hooray!
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Boo-ray!
JK
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
by BentNotBroken on Feb 4, 2012 12:22 AM CST up reply actions
Any Chance...
That KF would actually go outside the Hawkeye “family” if you will?
Any Chance...
It’s junior senior time?!?!!?
by McNutterButter on Feb 3, 2012 5:26 PM CST up reply actions
This stuff with the recruiting makes the whole conference look a little bad
or, at least, worse than we normally look
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
Isn't Miami in the market for a QB?
Make a trade for Stanzi, get the band back together!
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 3, 2012 5:25 PM CST reply actions
And checking headlines for Stanzi news revealed this interesting photo:
from Arrowhead Addict on the QB competition this summer.
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 3, 2012 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
Tom Brady wants YOU to quarterback America
by Epihawk on Feb 3, 2012 5:37 PM CST up reply actions 18 recs
I was also thinking
“I see your girlfriend didn’t make you cut your hair.”
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 3, 2012 5:43 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, Ricky..you too can marry a Victoria Secret supermodel someday....
by FlyingDutchman1 on Feb 3, 2012 5:43 PM CST up reply actions
It'll have to be a second marriage.
I don’t think Stanzi’s fiancee is a VS supermodel.
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2012 5:50 PM CST up reply actions
Ricky's got engaged?/
Didn’t hear about that one….who’s he marrying? Wonder Woman? Supergirl?
by FlyingDutchman1 on Feb 3, 2012 5:50 PM CST up reply actions
Lady Liberty
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
by Flakbait on Feb 3, 2012 5:51 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Well..gotta give him credit..
That chick looks good in a dress…
by FlyingDutchman1 on Feb 3, 2012 5:54 PM CST up reply actions
Is he allowed to date a French girl?
It is like climbing a high mountain and finding nothing at the top except a restaurant where they sell ginger beer, surrounded by fog but equipped with wireless.
How about English?
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 3, 2012 9:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I would butter her crumpet
It is like climbing a high mountain and finding nothing at the top except a restaurant where they sell ginger beer, surrounded by fog but equipped with wireless.
You'd let her bangers your mash?
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
Uh, wouldn't he bangers her mash?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2012 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
That sounds like it leads to spotted dick
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
Now you've got it.
By the way, spotted dick leads to producing cock-a-leekie soup.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2012 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
I've got it?
Crap, my wife is gonna be pissed.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
Bollocks to all this!
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Feb 4, 2012 11:04 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
you cunt!
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
yeaaaaah...
doesn’t really have the same charm without the thick cockney accent.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2012 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
It appears you are correct
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
I could see myself fishing for her chips
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 4, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
Freedom is my aphrodesiac.
/Stanzi’s signature on his mythical BHGP account.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
You don't want to go near Moynihan. Trust me.
by TheNakedBootlegger on Feb 3, 2012 5:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Trust me. I would like it.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 6:38 PM CST up reply actions
Some believe that Matt Flynn will be the next QB at Miami.
Especially now that Philbin is the HC.
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2012 5:37 PM CST up reply actions
I hadn't heard that, but it does make sense.
He had that MONSTER game against the Lions week 17. I thought he was pretty good to be a backup.
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 3, 2012 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
He probably won't be in Green Bay next year
The way all the contracts and rules and such work out, I guess it’s going to be near impossible to keep him.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Whoever the new guy is, I hope we blitz more
Whoops! Wrong thread!
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Feb 3, 2012 5:25 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Where's Drugs?
I need something to cope with this.
It's so sad how a family can be torn apart by something as simple as a pack of wild dogs.
by FiveSecondRuleChef on Feb 3, 2012 5:31 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I don't know who this Drugs is.
But I’ll let you know if I see him or her.
by TwistConePlease on Feb 3, 2012 6:35 PM CST up reply actions
I think DRUGS had the good sense to leave while his shtick/meme was still fresh.
Or he just wondered off down the street one day, and came to in a third-world jail.
by Midnight Rambler on Feb 4, 2012 7:41 AM CST up reply actions
There's not enough DRUGS in the world...
for that to happen…
by FlyingDutchman1 on Feb 3, 2012 5:34 PM CST up reply actions
There was, until DJK found 'em
ZING!
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 3, 2012 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
Who could do more DRUGS...
DJK or Roy Marble…discuss..
by FlyingDutchman1 on Feb 3, 2012 5:39 PM CST up reply actions
aww, come on
you have to admit, the man would look dapper on the sidelines with a clip board and headset
#SWAG
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 3, 2012 6:05 PM CST up reply actions
I hope Bruce Davis simultaneously gives you a Dutch rub and a Dutch oven.
"I’m not going to comment on anything beyond where I’ve been so far." - Gary Barta
by SomeJerkPoster on Feb 3, 2012 7:07 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Now that's funny.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 7:08 PM CST up reply actions
I have but one rec to give.
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
This, so many times.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2012 9:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
This probably also means we'll hire a dedicated QB coach too
which I think means we’ll have to lose another coaching position somewhere.
Isn’t there a limit on how many coaches you can have?
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
by HawKCP on Feb 3, 2012 5:34 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Is that German or something?
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Well, if Soup does become the OC, he could remain WR coach
kind of like KOK was OC/QB coach. So, not really a problem.
by Captain n Diet Coker on Feb 3, 2012 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
Both of those sound quite plausible
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 6:39 PM CST up reply actions
I really don't want PP as the DC, that would definitely be good to have two good coaches...
… respected and established as position coaches.
meh
I could live with that.
Especially after seeing the difference at WR pre-Soup and post-Soup.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Feb 3, 2012 5:37 PM CST up reply actions
Did you forget about guys like
Mo Brown, Clinton Solomon, Ed Hinkel?
Soup is a fine coach, and McNutt and DJK did excellent. But acting like the all Iowa WRs were shit just because Grigsby couldn’t catch and Cleveland and Douglas were idiots doesn’t really seem fair to me.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
Sure Iowa had good receivers before Soup, but they weren't re-writing the records book like McNutt & DJK did.
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2012 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
Soup also seemed to cure Brodell of the stone hands syndrome that had affected him
No small feat that
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Feb 3, 2012 11:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Those earlier guys didn't have the "good fortune" of
2/3 of the other WRs committing felonies.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 11:36 PM CST up reply actions
Did you forget about guys like: LOL, LOL, LOL?
Yes, we did. Those guys were good. Soup’s guys are at another level.
Mo Brown was better than DJK
I really believe this.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 10:47 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Mo Brown had one good season.
DJK was a stud for 4 years.
Not really much of a comparison.
Except
that Mo’s “one good season” was better than any season DJK had.
DJK
Receptions. Yds. Avg. TD Lng
Freshman 38 482 12.7 2 38
Sophomore 44 639 14.5 3 59
Junior 45 750 18.4 2 66
Senior 46 745 16.2 10 70
Career 173 2,616 15.1 17 70
Brown
Year No. Yards Avg. TD Lng.
Freshman 0 0 0.0 0 0
Sophomore 3 42 14.0 0 17
Junior 48 966 20.1 11 65
Senior 33 507 15.2 4 44
Totals 84 1,515 18.0 15 65
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 12:02 AM CST up reply actions
DJK had longevity. Mo had better ability.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 8:56 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, let's just completely discount the fact
that DJK was playing alongside the greatest WR in Iowa history for his last 3 years.
And he still practically doubled Mo in yards and catches.
by i_love_iowa on Feb 4, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
For a career? Yes,
but DJK was better than McNutt for a couple of those years. And we also had Jones & some other guy at TE when Brown blew up. Please stop.
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
For a career, yes
but DJK was better than McNutt for all but maybe one year together, and Mo had to share the field with CJ Jones and some hack at TE. Please stop
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
Jesus Fucking Christ, no one said "all Iowa WR's were shit" before soup.
Will you please, PLEASE stop reading into things. Can’t guys break all-time school careers records – and be acknowledged as good – without the previous players being shit? Saying Albert Pujols was amazing doesn’t imply Mark McGwire was shit.
/shitcockcuntballsdonkeypunchbarbarastreisand!!!
meh
So now you hate Mark McGwire?
by hawkinsandmelrose on Feb 3, 2012 10:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
by BentNotBroken on Feb 3, 2012 11:27 PM CST up reply actions
Well, when people were talking about the "difference before and after Soup",
and the recent guys happen to have played 3 to 4 years, does that really mean Soup is so awesome, or those guys are good?
What’s better? Jerry Rice’s position coach, or Wayne Chrebet’s?
I like Soup, and I respect what McNutt and DJK did. But I think we had good WRs and coaches before that, too.
And I’m sure you’ll get angry commence the name-calling shortly.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 11:42 PM CST up reply actions
sure
just stop putting words into others’ mouths and we’ll probably solve 65% of our differences
I can think Mo Brown and Ed Hinckel were really good and still think McNutt and DJK were better, can’t I?
meh
Sure. But I'm just not sure that definitively proves that Soup
is a better coach than whoever we had there before.
And Soup might be better. I’m not a Soup-hater.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 12:09 AM CST up reply actions
Campbell's: It's M'mm M'mm Good!
Twitterz: @EnergizerHawk
by EnergizerHawk on Feb 4, 2012 12:14 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
No one is saying that we didn't have good WRs before Soup
but you can’t look at the WR production the past 4 seasons and say there hasn’t been a fundamental improvement in the position. For Christ’s sake, McNutt just had, by any objective measure, the greatest single-season in Iowa football history. Couple that with the fact that he replaced his recently departed teammate atop many of the all-time lists, records that had stood for a decade or more were eclipsed TWICE in as many seasons. I have no doubt that, had Hinkel and Mo Brown been coached by Soup (and if Mo Brown could stay on the field), they would have been much more productive than they were. They were good, Soup could have made them great.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Feb 4, 2012 12:26 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
They were good, Soup could have made them great.
I say this about sandwiches sometimes.
"I’m not going to comment on anything beyond where I’ve been so far." - Gary Barta
by SomeJerkPoster on Feb 4, 2012 11:14 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If we had a coach named chowder
I would agree with you
It is like climbing a high mountain and finding nothing at the top except a restaurant where they sell ginger beer, surrounded by fog but equipped with wireless.
Just as long as you're talking about the Asst. Coach
and not the food because thems fight’n words around here.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2012 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
On one dinner I had in Puerto Nuevo, Baja Mexico
I went to the bathroom to wash my hands before the meal. The bathroom was small and sparse. No towels (no problem, wipe my hands on my jeans), a squat “toilet” (also not a problem), but having no soap to wash up after a long day in Mexico was a killer. I got back to the table and asked the waiter for soap. He nodded and returned with some of the best tortilla soup I’ve ever had (sopa). This made me happier than having actual soap.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
And the chef probably didn't even wash his hands when making it.
See, soap is overrated!
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2012 11:01 AM CST up reply actions
No, that was a bowl of soap.
It’s weird that you liked eating soap so much.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 6:04 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't say that, nothing even approaching it.
Not even in the same time zone. But you can’t tell me the the WR haven’t improved with Soup on board.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Feb 4, 2012 12:48 AM CST up reply actions
I didn't really take exception to your comment
Soup is doing a great job. If McNutt isn’t the best Iowa receiver of all-time, he is, at the very least, one of my all-time favorites. And while I also like DJK despite how he ended his career, I think his stats benefited from the phenoma Chazz described above. He was our only option for a while there.
But I’m also a big fan of Hinkel, Mo Brown, CJ Jones, Solomon and a few others. So I don’t think we were devoid of talent pre-Soup either.
by HawkeyeInExile on Feb 4, 2012 1:01 AM CST up reply actions
let's not forget
That Chuck Long is without debate our best quarterback in the last 80 years(Post Nile). Long played in a pass happy Hayden offense while both DJK and the Nutter set records after that period. I don’t think it is a stretch to say those last two played in more a “run first” offensive mind set.
We have had great receivers in the past and Soup is making our current guys much better.
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 4, 2012 7:48 AM CST up reply actions
I second the hate of SBNation sometimes
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 4, 2012 8:25 AM CST up reply actions
Chuck Long was the greatest passing QB Iowa has ever seen, by a lot. CL also played in a pass happy, Hayden offense. Then DJK and McNutt came along and broke those records.
We have had great receivers, Soup is making them better.
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 4, 2012 8:26 AM CST up reply actions
don't forget
Holloway. His one catch will always be my favorite.
by Vandy's Mom Digs Me on Feb 4, 2012 11:31 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Generally, in life change is good.
It can be painful but good in the long run. I’m shitting my pants with both fear and giddiness.
It's so sad how a family can be torn apart by something as simple as a pack of wild dogs.
by FiveSecondRuleChef on Feb 3, 2012 5:38 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I kinda hate change though
I think I’m like Ferentz
by GuttedSnowBird on Feb 3, 2012 7:38 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
I learned my lesson with Dr. Tom
I wanted him out so we could get beyond the first round of the NCAA’s more often. That really worked out great.
by Brock Sampson on Feb 3, 2012 7:45 PM CST up reply actions
Except that Dr. Tom never lost in the 1st round
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
/holds breath, waits for Brock fight
It’s the Brocks. They’re emerging.
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
by hkobb7 on Feb 3, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I tried to instigate a Zach fight in a post-game thread once.
Maybe we can get the Zachs to fight the Brocks. Or maybe one Brock and one Zach per side in mixed tag action!
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 3, 2012 8:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Triple threat match!
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 3, 2012 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
BROCK EM SOCK EM BROBOTS
"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull." - W.C. Fields
by rockyh on Feb 4, 2012 12:05 AM CST up reply actions 8 recs
Is your handle a Mr. Belvedere Fan Club reference?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2012 1:11 AM CST up reply actions
Holy crap. Deep pull.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 8:58 AM CST up reply actions
Oh it's on!
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
haha seriously
Of all the complaints you could have about Dr. Tom you pick literally the least accurate one.
Yeah, I know, that's what I meant to say
Me English not so good tonight.
by Brock Sampson on Feb 3, 2012 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
NO! It's a Brock fight to the death, damn it!
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
Kinda hard to work up much rage when I'm so clearly incorrect
Also I haven’t had any beer tonight.
by Brock Sampson on Feb 3, 2012 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
Of course, in the long run
We’re all dead.
I think this change will be good, we’d become for too stagnant, on both sides of the ball, in both approach and thinking. But in the short-term, this is going to be painful. But very excited what 2013 may bring.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Feb 3, 2012 11:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I think we'll miss KOK at some points in the coming seasons.
Plus, he’s a class act. Anyway, the picture in the Gazette article gave me an idea.
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
Just think
Iowa grabs Brian Ferentz, Jim Hermann, and LeVar Woods gets promoted. Kirk Ferentz is a former NFL guy.
With all those NFL guys, imagine how many NFL General Managers will have on speed-dial…
/Hoiberg’d
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
by Nickhawk08 on Feb 3, 2012 5:45 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
the way Ferentz is respected by NFL owners etc.
his coaching staff should attract talented coaches with long term aspirations. I’d think he’d be a helluva reference on a resume.
seriously?
by PSD on Feb 3, 2012 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
I can get behind this plan
as long as we don’t start bringing in d-bags like the football equivalent of Royce White.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
HE OVERCAME ADVERSITY
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Feb 3, 2012 10:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
From our latest QB commit
who switched to Iowa after Ole Miss switched OCs
cjbeathard C.J. Beathard
And i will continue to tell myself that EVERYTHING happens for a reason!
seriously?
by PSD on Feb 3, 2012 5:49 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
To be fair, he switched to Iowa after Ole Miss changed their HC.
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2012 5:51 PM CST up reply actions
For some reason, this was the first time I read his name as "Beat Hard"
I’m disappointed that my immature mind had not picked up on this sooner
I was literally just typing "Heh Heh Heh. Beat. Hard."
in my best Beavis and Butthead voice.
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 3, 2012 5:57 PM CST up reply actions
Don't beat so hard on yourself over it.
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Feb 3, 2012 5:57 PM CST up reply actions
No worries there
The OC posting might as well say “advocates of the spread need not apply”
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
from Howe
HawkeyeInsider Rob Howe
Dad of QB C.J. Beathard (signed w/ #Iowa Wednesday) Asked KOK how long he’d b w/ #Hawkeyes. KOK said he’s w/ Ferentz, who signed new deal
seriously?
by PSD on Feb 3, 2012 6:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hmm
I wonder when he asked KOK that.
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Feb 3, 2012 6:14 PM CST up reply actions
just guessing
but he did visit last weekend right?
seriously?
by PSD on Feb 3, 2012 6:14 PM CST up reply actions
I can see it all happening in a day or two
They all know each other, they have a long phone conversation, maybe a day trip to Miami and it’s a done deal.
CJ needs to settle down, he’ll be fine.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
I don't think he's freaking out.
It’s probably a bit scary when your position coach leaves 3 days after you’ve signed an NLI. Howe probably reached out to Beathard’s dad and that was the quote he chose to run with.
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2012 6:18 PM CST up reply actions
It sure seems fast,
kind of out of nowhere. Right after signing day…
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Feb 3, 2012 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
One high school visit too many for KOK
he must have said ’I’m too old for this s#!t, I’m taking my talents to South Beach.’
Safe to say a majority of us would do the same
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 4, 2012 7:52 AM CST up reply actions
Yes it is.
Probably the way it has to happen, but still shitty for the kid.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 6:41 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I feel bad for Beathard.
I hope he’s all BFF with whomever we hire.
"I’m not going to comment on anything beyond where I’ve been so far." - Gary Barta
by SomeJerkPoster on Feb 3, 2012 7:10 PM CST up reply actions
Why should the kid or his dad care?
He wanted to play in a pro-style offense at a major school in a good community with a head coach and offensive system that will be around for a long time. He still has al of those things.
Whether the guy calling the plays is named Joe Smith or Fuckface McPoopypants, who really cares?
by i_love_iowa on Feb 3, 2012 7:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I thought I read somewhere that he really hit it off with O’Keefe, and this is his second post-commitment coaching staff change.
Also, I’m pretty sure McPoopypants has it in for him.
"I’m not going to comment on anything beyond where I’ve been so far." - Gary Barta
by SomeJerkPoster on Feb 3, 2012 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
So he develops this HUGE bond with a guy in what, like a week?
Iowa had literally never even talked to this kid until a week ago. He has had maybe 2 conversations with KOK in his entire life.
Spare me the drama kid and welcome to big time college athletics.
Man, the kids really get fucked over in your version.
Don’t let Bolden transfer AND tough luck for Beathard that KOK bolts? You must be a defensive line coach.
"I’m not going to comment on anything beyond where I’ve been so far." - Gary Barta
by SomeJerkPoster on Feb 4, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
For some reason
I thought “Coach T.J. Maxx” when I read this.
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Feb 4, 2012 11:44 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
I meant it in a "hates QBs and is on the coaching side of the player/coach relationship"
not meant to be a Coach K reference.
"I’m not going to comment on anything beyond where I’ve been so far." - Gary Barta
by SomeJerkPoster on Feb 4, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
And yet,
this seems to fall into the “dear God, let one or two of the remaining offensive coaches take this kid under their wing, to help him feel like staying around.”
Because it is possible (not necessarily probable, but possible) that that is a bit weak (Coker, Derby, McCall, a few others) in our coaching staff right now.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
Well, you know, because Ken O'Keefe HAS been good at developing QB's...
…and you know, an offensive coordinator and position coach do actually, like, do things and, um, you know, matter and stuff.
meh
by tyger1147 on Feb 3, 2012 10:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
See; recruiting.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2012 9:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Consider the source on this, but
PatHarty Pat Harty
Pioneer-Press lists Iowa AD and Minneapolis native Gary Barta as a candidate to replace Joel maturi as the new AD at Minnesota.
seriously?
Pat Harty
is a smut peddler. He is a poopy head. How many B1G AD’s are on that list? Pat wouldn’t include that information because it’s relevant and doesn’t throw Iowa into a panic.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Feb 3, 2012 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds like Pat is upset that nobody is paying attention to him
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
StoopsMyAss
will do a little dance if it’s true.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Dan Gable for Athletic Director!!
It is like climbing a high mountain and finding nothing at the top except a restaurant where they sell ginger beer, surrounded by fog but equipped with wireless.
by Lycurgus on Feb 3, 2012 5:56 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Yes, please.
But Harty is still a poopy butt and a media whore.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Feb 3, 2012 5:58 PM CST up reply actions
Careful. I think he's friends with Captain Steve!
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 3, 2012 5:59 PM CST up reply actions
I'm drawing a blank...
Captain Steve? Sorry.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Feb 3, 2012 6:00 PM CST up reply actions
DJ that insulated BHGP
as being hack wanna be journalists who live in the mother’s basements.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
After stealing their material
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Ah yes.
So two people I think are booger-eaters.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Feb 3, 2012 6:03 PM CST up reply actions
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 3, 2012 6:02 PM CST up reply actions
For the record, Pat's BHGP soccer jersey
has the name “Captain Steve” on the back.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2012 1:13 AM CST up reply actions
Thank you for the generous donation
now drop and give me 25
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
by Flakbait on Feb 3, 2012 5:59 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
there's this
marcmorehouse marcmorehouse
The Barta thingie has been a rumor since Iowa played up there this season. I think it’s flinging right now, but who knows.
seriously?
by PSD on Feb 3, 2012 6:05 PM CST up reply actions
Dan Gable for... ATHLETE/ATHLETICS/ATHLETICISM/ETC.
Basically…
one will be an Gable
one will compete in Gables
one will have Gableism
and so on and so forth
meh
ooh, me likey
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 6:42 PM CST up reply actions
Can we please make this happen?
by clayborn2run on Feb 3, 2012 8:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I would have a permanent smile on my face
for all the right AND wrong reasons.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2012 9:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
armbars?
all around!!!!
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 4, 2012 7:54 AM CST up reply actions
If you displease him you have to work out with him in his
It is like climbing a high mountain and finding nothing at the top except a restaurant where they sell ginger beer, surrounded by fog but equipped with wireless.
the commercial prior
was as anti-Gable as possible.
This video is awesome.
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 4, 2012 8:33 AM CST up reply actions
It is amazing
Rambler showed me that.
It is like climbing a high mountain and finding nothing at the top except a restaurant where they sell ginger beer, surrounded by fog but equipped with wireless.
Fallout from how the Coker situation was handled?
Would he take Sally with him?
The fallout from the Coker situation
will be limited to the team losing a running back.If Sally or Gary leave, it’s because they want to.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
If you have any proof that KOK was forced out over the Coker situation, show it
otherwise that is one of the dumbest statements in this entire situation.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Marcus Fuller threw a ton of shit at the wall to see if anything would stick.
There was one reasonable name in an article that listed 10. Barta, among others, were terrifyingly stupid.
Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Feb 3, 2012 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
I think Ferentz is preparing Iowa for Post-Ferentz.
He wants to be known not just as a great coach, but as the coach who built a program for sustained success. Coaches, NFL players, etc.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Feb 3, 2012 5:51 PM CST reply actions
I wanted to say something like this.
And then, I realized that we now have no coordinators, and our only promotion/hire was a guy that played at Iowa (LeVar) and has been here as an administrative assistant or GA for three years.
Doesn’t really spell “NFL Influx-storm” to me. Yet.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
Well I'm obviously "the guy" for saying dumb shit on the board here.
So send me a private email when you want something posted through me. I’m used to people shitting on my thoughts.
In all honesty, Ferentz has a lot of people who would coach here. I’m not concerned, and I think he’s going to do right by the program for the future. He loves Iowa, loves Iowa City, he wants this to be a national program for years after he’s gone. Looks like that will happen, but I agree that the hires will be importatnt. And by hires I mean promotions of Soup and Phil.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Feb 3, 2012 10:48 PM CST up reply actions
I am not afraid to say my own dumb shit, thank you very much.
And please, take it from me, you’re just going to get ragged on sometimes around here. Just try to roll with it and not take it too personally, and refine your thoughts and opinions. You’ll enjoy this place much more if you can do so.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 11:45 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
did you two just have a virtual hug?
BHGP – Hugging it out since 2007!
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 4, 2012 7:56 AM CST up reply actions
Hang in there, bb!
"I’m not going to comment on anything beyond where I’ve been so far." - Gary Barta
by SomeJerkPoster on Feb 4, 2012 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
If the implication is that he urged those guys to leave Iowa, I don't buy it.
If that thought is completely independent of the coordinators leaving, I would.
meh
I don't think he was urging them to leave.
I think they all know they won’t be around forever, and Ferentz is going to bring in people are the next group of coaches to coach here. Fry had a try, there was mention of a Ferentz Sappling earlier….I think there’s some merit to that. He always says if it’s a good move he’d support it, and I never thought I’d see Ken leave.
Like I said, he wants to leave a program in tact, and having a bunch of 65 year old coaches isn’t the way to do it.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Feb 3, 2012 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
Except that
unless someone is promoted to take over as coach, pretty much anybody that takes over will bring an entirely new staff anyway. Not to mention that many times if one guy is promoted, many of the others on staff may take offense and leave (similar to what it sounds like may happen on the defensive side).
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
Interesting that at the Polar Plunge
It was Doyle. Not Ken. Just saying…..
by hawkinsandmelrose on Feb 3, 2012 6:00 PM CST reply actions
maybe that's why he left
the polar plunge was a deal breaker
Damn this is cold
I’m moving to Miami
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
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That is all.
I learned a great many things in the Marines that helped me as a football coach. The Marines train men hard and to do things the right way, just as a football team must train. - Hayden Fry
by NileKinnickIronman on Feb 3, 2012 6:06 PM CST reply actions
Wow
That’s all I can muster at this moment. I think I am ok with him leaving, but I’m a little afraid that it wasn’t his doing that resulted in the conservative playcalling tendencies. I guess we will be finding out shortly.
Persona non grata.
Ha!
Good write-up too. This part, I think, could be true:
But my feeling was always that the more Hawkeye fans would have been exposed to O’Keefe, the more they would have liked him. He is very intelligent and well-read, has a good sense of humor, and strikes me as being plenty humble.
We barely knew the guy (because KF limited the coordinators’ exposure to the media) and yet he was everyone’s punching bag. I don’t know…but I guess we’ll soon have an idea where the playcalling buck stopped.
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 3, 2012 6:32 PM CST up reply actions
Well the general offensive scheme was almost certainly on Kirk
He’s said a bunch of times that this is the style of offense he prefers, and KOK ran a much more wide open offense in his stops prior to Iowa. The play-calling within that was probably mostly on O’Keefe though.
I definitely do not doubt that he was a really good guy though.
good guy does not necessarily mean good at his job
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 6:48 PM CST up reply actions
No, but you might cut a guy a bit more slack if you realize he's likable
rather than if he’s some quasi-anonymous guy we see once a week, I guess, is the point. I don’t know if I actually have a point.
I don’t think he deserves all the criticism he gets, and starting with a fresh coordinator could be good, but it could also be rocky for a year or two. So my feelings are all mixed-up.
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 3, 2012 6:54 PM CST up reply actions
fair enough
I think being a good guy kept him on longer than he should have been, but I suppose that’s all, um, supposition until we see what happens with our offense in the next few years
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 7:03 PM CST up reply actions
That's probably true too.
Being a good guy endeared him to the coaching staff (and recruits-he was evidently a good recruiter, too), and maybe kept him around longer, but we as fans didn’t get to see much of that.
I’m not celebrating his moving on, but I’m not mourning it either I guess. I’ll just grab a beer and see what happens next…
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 3, 2012 7:14 PM CST up reply actions
This is correct.
If he was Charlie Weis, that “Fire KOK” petition would have had a hundred thousand signatures.
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
Yes, that's a good read.
There is someone in the world named Joe Person. !
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Feb 3, 2012 6:36 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds like the alter ego of a comic book character written by a really lazy author.
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 3, 2012 6:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Generic Coaching Comment: Soup to OC
Chuck Long to QB. I’ve never heard anyone say he wasn’t a good QB coach…they just said he wasn’t good at anything else.
Yeah, I've heard Long didn't exactly like working a lot of hours
or something to that effect
by Captain n Diet Coker on Feb 3, 2012 6:39 PM CST up reply actions
"Chuck Long to QB. I’ve never heard anyone say he wasn’t a good QB coach"
Except, um, Kirk Ferentz, who told him to get the fuck out of dodge.
I am SHG, and I endorse this statement.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2012 9:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Holy shit!
TWWL is reporting it now too. I have been asking for this for years and now that its happened, I’m at a loss for words…
But "disappointing" is not a synonym for "crappy." - Jacob Peterson
"We are Iowans, for the most part if you tell us to do something we’ll do it. It’s not like we are from South Carolina." - Carfino'sWay
by 6 seconds of hell on Feb 3, 2012 6:31 PM CST reply actions
Is it wrong of me to request the "Move Your Feet" happy victory video in reaction to this news?
Just asking…
I think the real question here is
what does this do to our random reverse production
But "disappointing" is not a synonym for "crappy." - Jacob Peterson
"We are Iowans, for the most part if you tell us to do something we’ll do it. It’s not like we are from South Carolina." - Carfino'sWay
by 6 seconds of hell on Feb 3, 2012 6:38 PM CST reply actions
Well if that happened there then it never works!
by clay-born to party on Feb 3, 2012 7:51 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Three words.
Snap directly to Florida-back.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 10:47 PM CST up reply actions
Excuse me
End around. And WON’T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE GUYS WHO RAN THEM!
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Feb 3, 2012 6:42 PM CST up reply actions
Do you suppose Brian wants to come to Iowa?
I like my dad, but I’d probably want to make my own way. But that’s just me. Maybe Brian working for Belichick shows his willingness to leverage his dad’s influence (and I don’t necessarily think there’s anything wrong with that).
Brian could have the upper hand just by saying "Dad, Bill would have done it my way"
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Feb 3, 2012 6:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Right now, it is a bit of a tough decision.
B Ferentz has had quite a bit of success and promotions in the last 3 or 4 years. And, he’s the oldest child (or son, at least) and, having spent his childhood in other places, may or may not love Iowa as much as Kirk possibly does? If Brian works hard and things go well, he could be head coach of New England in 5 or 8 years.
But, if he loves Iowa, and he is really confident in his abilties, then maybe he could do the same here, particularly with the possible “nepotism/Dad-sets-me-up-to-take-over” addition. But, he’s still going to have to wait 4 or 5 or 8 years.
Personally, if I’m Brian, I think I have to take the Patriot’s job as far as it can take me. How often do you get a Hall-of-Fame QB throwing to your TEs? Also, you can get a college head-coaching gig later on from being an NFL assistant. But, you probably won’t get an NFL head gig unless you’ve had sustained success as a college head coach, or as an NFL assistant.
Also, heavy hangs the head that wears the crown, and whatnot.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
I can't believe I'm writing this
But I am in complete agreement with everything Chazz wrote here.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Feb 3, 2012 11:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
2012, dude. 2012.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 11:47 PM CST up reply actions
If people actually think b ferentz
Will be new England’s hc in 5 to 8 years are crazy. Bill belichek has cloned himself already and is raising himself in the basement of patriot place. But seriously, not ever going to happen.
"The more I get hit, the more they git hit" - Marcus Coker
Okay.
So who IS going to be?
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 7:46 AM CST up reply actions
From the local media
It appears Josh McDaniels is back for specifically that reason. People like Ferentz around here but he is not even technically the TE coach yet, just an “offensive assistant”.
"The more I get hit, the more they git hit" - Marcus Coker
Weird comparison but
How did that succession plan work out for Jay Paterno?
Not saying there will be another situation like the PSU one (please God no) but if KF would have a couple of bad seasons at the end the prospects of BF taking over would be remote at best.
I would guess that if he really, really wanted to be Iowa’s HC he should ride the NFL for as long as possible and jump with a succession plan in place when he joins the staff.
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 4, 2012 8:01 AM CST up reply actions
How often does a guy get a chance to work with his dad?
That can be good or bad, but this is probably the only opportunity for it to happen unless KF takes a head NFL job.
by HawkeyeRecon on Feb 4, 2012 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
every time dad owns the business
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
Let's not forget that Brian has been, officially, an assistant coach
for all of one season. Prior to this season, he was an “offensive coaching assistant” (helping with the TEs I believe) but did not have position-specific responsibilities and authority until this year. Now, it seems the Belichick/the Patriots organization thinks highly of BF, but it’s way, WAAAAY to early for him to be realistically thought of as an offensive coordinator at the major college level.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Just another excuse for the upcoming crappy season.
Every loss will be prefixed with the “two new coordinators, what do you expect” raison d’etre.
Oh well, you wanted change… you got it.
by Stay thirsty, my friends. on Feb 3, 2012 6:43 PM CST reply actions
Next season won't be a good one regardless of who's coaching
The only position groups we’re not rebuilding are linebackers and quarterback.
by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 3, 2012 6:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
sounds a bit like 2009!
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 7:03 PM CST up reply actions
I admire your optimism
But the 2011 defense wasn’t quite the 2008 defense.
by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 3, 2012 7:10 PM CST up reply actions
What?
We were a pre-season Top 25 team going into 09.
stop bringing truth to rain on my parade!
(and that was just because of how we finished 08 anyway)
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
you are taking a far too literal stance on my joking statement
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
I'm excited for the future.
But not necessarily because I’m happy that KOK is gone. Iowa football could become very different, and I’m excited about the unknown.
Looking back, I feel like we’ll all (or at least me) think better of KOK. On a micro level, game to game, play to play level, KOK’s play calling was often really frustrating. But we had some great quarterbacks and some great seasons (usually few blowouts though, which matters sometimes).
I will raise my drink to KOK tonight to honor the things I liked about him. I will have more beers to celebrate the things that I didn’t like about him.
by TwistConePlease on Feb 3, 2012 6:44 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
This caps my overly odd day
First it was my last day in Photolithography before becoming a Metrology lead engineer (like a boss).
Next our CEO died flying his plane (no link since I’m mobiling—just google Mircon CEO).
Now this…
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
by BoiseHawk on Feb 3, 2012 6:46 PM CST via mobile reply actions
The official word on the 8k raise
You question did give me a chuckle though.
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
by BoiseHawk on Feb 3, 2012 8:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think I know what photolithography is
What’s metrology? Do you just measure things?
Crazy about the CEO. We own SNDK and when MU halted I thought it was getting bought or something. STAY AWAY FROM SMALL PRIVATE PLANES, RICH PEOPLE!!!
"I don't usually go to the top floor, but tonight I had a business meeting." -Devyn Marble
by Notclevr on Feb 3, 2012 10:38 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yes...measurement central
We are in charge of all sorts of measurements…
Critical dimensions…size of pattern
Registration…overlay of lower pattern to current pattern
Scatterometry…optical critical dimensions, profile, trench depths
Thin films thickness…variety of techniques
Plus even more stuff like dopant concentrations.
Boise news has been all over this story.
Agree with the small planes…especially if you already crashed once.
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
by BoiseHawk on Feb 4, 2012 12:09 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well congrats on the promotion anyway
"I don't usually go to the top floor, but tonight I had a business meeting." -Devyn Marble
Thanks
It is exciting, but at the same time it will be different having people that work for me now. Having their career development in my hands and all that comes with that.
I’m sure I’ll do fine, as I feel like I’ve been a leader throughout my life. This is just way more real than being a leader on a school project or on a non-important sports team, I’ll owe it to them to really step up to the responsibility.
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
Hmm
My purely speculative read on this says KOK might’ve just thought Joe Philbin—who just lost a son and has his first head coaching position—needed a good friend with him (or Joe Philbin thought that and KOK obliged).
by Captain n Diet Coker on Feb 3, 2012 6:46 PM CST reply actions
You have so much information
It is like climbing a high mountain and finding nothing at the top except a restaurant where they sell ginger beer, surrounded by fog but equipped with wireless.
Not really. I did say it was pure speculation.
Just putting a few things together.
by Captain n Diet Coker on Feb 3, 2012 6:58 PM CST up reply actions
Or,
just spitballing, Kirk thought since he needed one new coordinator, what better time than to just replace the other one as well? Our offense hasn’t exactly been trending upward, and maybe Kirk knew that something was going to have to change eventually, so why not do one complete overhaul now? And he liked Ken, so he hooked him up nicely with Philbin in the League in a city near his daughter, so everybody wins.
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Feb 3, 2012 6:58 PM CST up reply actions
The chauvinist in me wants to say:
“Except, Philbin and KOK aren’t women.”
But I’m going to stay classy, and not say that.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
No kidding
He might have offended someone. No one ever says anything that might be considered offensive around here.
Since I don't speak meme and my computer doesn't have sarcasm font...
It’s hard to tell if this is also a joke, but for the record, I thought Chazz’s comment was funny in a “Looks like dog shit, smells like dog shit, tastes like dog shit. Good thing we didn’t step in it.” Cheech and Chong sort of way. Not offended.
by HawkeyeInExile on Feb 4, 2012 12:52 AM CST up reply actions
Yes, that was a joke.
My computer doesn’t have sarcasm font either. Guess we should both update to a newer model. But I enjoyed Chazz’s comment as well.
> 2012
> Making sexist comments on a blog
ISHYDDT
Meh.
If I make them to just be mean, that’s one thing.
But, I usually try to limit my sexism to stuff that has some pretty harmless humor. It’s not like I’m a boss requesting some “favors.”
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 6:17 PM CST up reply actions
What about the reverse?
Won’t someone please think about the reverses?!!!!
Battles are won with a hammer, wars are won with a scalpel
I'm not sure I've ever been verb'd like that
I kind of like it.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Feb 3, 2012 7:33 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, they really sell that coaching stabillity angle to recruits too
And then 3 coaches leave in the span of 2 months.
by Captain n Diet Coker on Feb 3, 2012 7:01 PM CST up reply actions
Meh.
Parker is 70 years old, KOK is 58. I’d think most recruits should have expected to see one or the other or both leave within 5 years.
And, I wonder how “dyed in the wool” Kaz really was in being a Hawk. Seems like if I was a recruit, and asked for an older D-Lineman’s honest opinion, I might be able to foresee a significant possibility that Kaz wouldn’t be there for the next 5 years.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 11:04 PM CST up reply actions
Well, you have to sell what you can.
But it doesn’t change reality. With Ferentz now the Dean of Big Ten Coaches, it just means he could be the next one to not still be there in 3 or 4 or 5 years.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 11:50 PM CST up reply actions
That was so 3 days ago.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 7:01 PM CST up reply actions
Will KOK be magically erased from all highlight videos now?
by Epihawk on Feb 3, 2012 7:02 PM CST up reply actions 10 recs
yep. and green.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 7:09 PM CST up reply actions
Highlights of the KOK offense?
Do you mean the end arounds?
by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 3, 2012 7:11 PM CST up reply actions
OK, someone give me a list of candidates
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 3, 2012 7:13 PM CST reply actions
Yeah I'm totally joking
If we’re talking Major Applewhite why not Jason White? He know something about knee injuries and that seems to be a problem around here…
I see your major and raise you a colonel
Specifically, the Colonel. No, I don’t care that he’s dead, just get him.
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
We could run a very slippery offense
with all that chicken grease.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 11:05 PM CST up reply actions
we could go with Colonel Tom Parker
name recognition and all. Getting everyone hooked on pain killers wouldn’t be such a winning game plan though.
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 4, 2012 8:04 AM CST up reply actions
The Zooker!
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 3, 2012 7:15 PM CST up reply actions
Mike Martz
Have to put a roof on Kinnick first, though.
by Brock Sampson on Feb 3, 2012 7:31 PM CST up reply actions
I was hoping Jim Caldwell
But then I saw he just took the QB coach job with the Ravens. It would be a long shot, but he’s got the program ties.
by DJK's bongwater on Feb 4, 2012 9:41 AM CST up reply actions
Jim Caldwell is a terrible coach
Exhibit A: 2011 Indianapolis Colts
He's a terrible coach because he couldn't win with an injury riddled team?
Caldwell coached his way to the Super Bowl two years ago. Not to mention that he was Peyton Manning’s QB coach for 7 years. I believe he did a passable job coaching Manning.
by DJK's bongwater on Feb 4, 2012 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure Peyton Manning needs a whole lot of coaching
Literally the only reason people want to hire him is that he went to Iowa which is just the dumbest reason.
That team was/is Manning as OC, hope the defense doesn't shit down their leg too much.
The entire front office and coaching for the last decade has been over-rated and allowed to hang on too long because Peyton was so damn good that he lifted everyone else.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not really advocating for him
But he’s been a coach in the NFL and college for over 30 years, has HC experience in both leagues. And has ties to Iowa. We could probably do worse.
Yep.
And, he helped (or at least didn’t stop them from) Indy making a Super Bowl.
The guy ain’t Lombardi, but he also isn’t complete shit, either.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 6:20 PM CST up reply actions
Jim Caldwell is the Jon Gruden redux
He only made it to the Super Bowl with Tony Dungy’s team. At least Gruden won it with Dungy’s players.
And was really helped out
that he was playing his own former team coached by a former assistant who, apparently, didn’t change much of anything from when Gruden left, right down the the audibles/teminology
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Oh, I see. We’re playing this game where we pick one bad thing as an example of how horrible something is. I’m not sure that having a horrible year as a head coach means he’s a bad coach. Maybe you could argue he’s not a great head coach if you want, but people are not talking about making him a head coach. I feel like he coached a good QB in Indy…
Ok, let's point out numerous failings
Jim Caldwell was the head coach of Wake Forest from 1993-2000. He had a career record of 26-63 with one winning season (7-5 in 1999).
Also, Peyton Manning is a phenomenal talent. Being his QB coach does not make you a good coach. It makes you lucky. I will say that I may have exaggerated my point above saying the Colts’ record this year is all his fault. It was a combined effort of him and Irsay not having a capable backup QB or decent running game ready.
While there is no overstating how important talent is
position coaches wouldn’t exist if they weren’t important. How many pitchers went from wash-outs to staff aces under Dave Duncan at St. Louis? Different sport but perhaps the position most similar when talking about the “you either have talent or don’t” argument.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2012 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
Hindenberg
This is why I do not travel by airship.
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Feb 4, 2012 11:05 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
One famous flaming disaster and you go running for the hills
Typical over-reaction.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
I prefer private railcar
When I travel, I travel like a wealthy villain in a steampunk adventure.
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Feb 4, 2012 11:48 AM CST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
Haha
Rec.
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by SomeJerkPoster on Feb 4, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
In my mental image
you are rocking a pretty amazing mustache
It is like climbing a high mountain and finding nothing at the top except a restaurant where they sell ginger beer, surrounded by fog but equipped with wireless.
If I didn't have the upper lip of a 12 year old boy, I would totally rock a handlebar 'stash.
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Feb 4, 2012 12:57 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
What scares me
OKeefe seemed one of the few people able to get Ferentz to change his mind. if not for him, I don’t know if Stanzi would have ever replaced Jake. I also always got the impression that whenever they did open it (see no huddle this year) that it came from O’Keefe. Granted Ferentz would shut it down as soon as it did not work one time, but I fear it would have never happened without OKeefe.
This is not say that I don’t think this could be a good thing. I just hope whoever is brought in is allowed to change it up a little with his own style and he isn’t completely subservient to KF’s wishes
I’m not wearing underwear…what if I pre my pants?
by three and out the kok story on Feb 3, 2012 7:13 PM CST reply actions
Is any of this
from actual real-life information? Or just based on perceptions/internet comments/speculation?
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 11:07 PM CST up reply actions
Internet gossip.
We, as fans, complaing how airtight the program and coaches are when it comes to internal affairs. Then, the next day, we claim to know everything about why a coach left or why a player doesn’t play. Okay…..
by hawkinsandmelrose on Feb 3, 2012 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
Complete speculation
As far as Stanzi/Jake, I have memory of OKeefe being pretty upset when Jake went in during the PItt game and Kirk saying after the game that it was his call.
I’m not wearing underwear…what if I pre my pants?
by three and out the kok story on Feb 4, 2012 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
Kokaine
is much easier to find in Miami.
by LowcountryHawk on Feb 3, 2012 7:14 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
Kat O'Keefe! I'll miss you most!
"I’m not going to comment on anything beyond where I’ve been so far." - Gary Barta
by SomeJerkPoster on Feb 3, 2012 7:16 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
you are quickly becoming one of my favorite commenters of late
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 7:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think the reason KOK was never much of a playcaller
Was because he was being forced by Ferentz to run a pro-style offense when that wasn’t really his style.
Hopefully the new hire will be one who prefers working within a pro-style system.
by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 3, 2012 7:17 PM CST reply actions
Lloyd Carr?
/about 5% serious
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 3, 2012 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
/screeee
//crack
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 5, 2012 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
He was a pretty good playcaller in 2002 (and other years).
With KOK leaving, this internet meme needs to stop. It’s cute when he’s your coach, but once he’s gone it’s really just mean. And KOK doesn’t deserve that, mainly because it’s not true.
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 5, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe I missed it somewhere earlier, but does anyone think the timing of this
is in any way coincidental? A couple days after getting 20+ recruits to sign on the dotted line KOK announces he’s leaving. I might not be thrilled if i was one of those players.
by DananHughesUrDaddy on Feb 3, 2012 7:18 PM CST reply actions
if i was a QB or yes
O line is there for Ferentz most likely, RBs and WRs are there for potentially early starting time (and WRs are also there for SOUP), Defense knew the D coordinator deal before hand.
the only guys who are overly pissed are probably Beathard and Sokol i would think
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 3, 2012 7:22 PM CST up reply actions
Obiously, the choice of successor will have an impact as well.
by DananHughesUrDaddy on Feb 3, 2012 7:24 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
but in terms of negative impact, i think its overall pretty minimal outside of the QBs
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 3, 2012 7:25 PM CST up reply actions
might have been a positive for Darboh
two sides to every coin
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by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 7:42 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe. If Soup and the recent success of DJK & McNutt weren't enough, then I'm not sure he ever seriously considered Iowa.
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2012 7:49 PM CST up reply actions
probably true.
was just sayin’
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
Like with the Schwartz.
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion - however satisfying and reassuring."
by Bucketochicken on Feb 3, 2012 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
SPACEBALLS THE FLAMETHROWER
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2012 9:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The kids love that one!
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion - however satisfying and reassuring."
by Bucketochicken on Feb 3, 2012 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
And there is a decent chance
that neither of those guys was going to play this year, and if they did play in 2013, it would be after out-dueling Rudock.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
Dogs and cats living together!
Mass hysteria!!!!!
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 3, 2012 8:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'll go ahead and be *that guy.
I’m gonna miss him.
by i_love_iowa on Feb 3, 2012 7:46 PM CST reply actions 7 recs
Dear Ken O'Keefe,
Don’t forget the good times.
Sincerely,
55-0
by HawkeyeInExile on Feb 3, 2012 11:12 PM CST up reply actions 11 recs
62-10 over jNW was a pretty good one too.
As was almost every other game that year.
2004, winning with nothing but Drew Tate moxie, should probably be recognized as well.
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 4, 2012 1:53 AM CST up reply actions
2004 Iowa 33-7 Ohio St
Possibly my favorite game ever.
by HawkeyeInExile on Feb 4, 2012 2:39 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
24-14 OB
still goes down as one hell of a DC and OC game plan.
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 4, 2012 8:06 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
One of these days,
I’m going to need to watch my 2002 “Touchdown Iowa” Highlight Tape. What a season!
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 6:53 AM CST up reply actions
This is fear simply for fear's sake
Not all change is bad, not all longevity is good. And vice versa as well, of course. But this particular change has needed to happen for a couple years.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 9:02 AM CST up reply actions
Clearly KOK just wanted to keep coaching Marvin McNutt.
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2012 8:04 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Think the Fins end up with him?
I would be down with that
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
Is Prater a problem at DB? Is it time to fire Ferentz?
These are the issues we’re still supposed to be discussing, per my banner ad!
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 3, 2012 8:05 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
ABP extension
I didn't invent the black turtleneck, but I was the first to recognize its potential as a tactical garment.
by KilometersDavis on Feb 3, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
what's Tim Dwight doing these days?
He knew a thing or two abt offense.
by clayborn2run on Feb 3, 2012 8:19 PM CST via mobile reply actions
And he knows how to sell liquor to college kids.
And, according to rumors, how to continue to pick up young women in IC.
How can this plan fail?
/I’m sorry, but I think I’d have to see Dwight coach something at the college level, first.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 11:14 PM CST up reply actions
This is terrible.
It may be the worst thing to ever happen to Iowa football. I’ll pray for you in your dark hour, Big Tenemies.
Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Feb 3, 2012 8:24 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Thanks.
If we get really depressed, at least we could be consoled by a tape of the 55-0 game.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
The KOK press release only mentions passing
We didn’t run the ball this year, did we?
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
Dude that's nothing, we only had 2516 yards of total offense in 2010! That's less than 200 yds/game!
No wonder this O’Keefe guy got canned.
by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 3, 2012 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
I was referencing Coker being erased from history. I was kind of oblique
I think we’ll miss KOK.
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
I was referencing DJK, Coker, and Robinson being erased from history.
…
by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 3, 2012 9:00 PM CST up reply actions
I think most of my jokes on here go over people's heads.
by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 3, 2012 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
it's an intelligent crowd here.
Might want to make jokes somebody besides yourself can understand then.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
Sometimes, I hate sbnation. This is one of those times.
There wasn’t even an error! I just posted once!
that individual has been stricken from the record
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by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
I say we hire coach Bud Kilmer for oc and dc
If he sucks, at least his daughter is hot. Honestly I hope we get a coach comfortable calling plays for a pro style offense. If not I hope we get to modern football and get a spread coach that is allowed to do his thing. Kf is more of a pro coach in the fact that he keeps his assistants on a tight leash. I think he would fare better letting his assistants do their job, and just step back and run the day to day stuff, instead of every aspect of the team. Just my opinion, whatever happens next year will be fun. Best of luck to ken in his future endeavors
by eff bielema on Feb 3, 2012 8:52 PM CST via mobile reply actions
If not I hope we get to modern football and get a spread coach that is allowed to do his thing.
I would hate to see the spread or the pistol at Iowa. I’ve had to watch UNI implement the pistol, and it really takes the fun away, for me.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 11:18 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
My vote? Chuck Long as the new QB coach
as for who takes the Offense Coach, maybe Ferentz’s kid? maybe Soup gets promoted if he is as amazing as we make him out to be?
who knows. sure didnt see this coming.
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 3, 2012 9:00 PM CST reply actions
Soup gets job.
Brian fills empty spot. Bob Sanders for D coordinator. Also Ferentz replaces human legs with robot legs…..all is well.
Go Hawks!
by Chabdul Hodgeway on Feb 3, 2012 9:32 PM CST reply actions
'Bout time UIHC contributed something.
I mean, other than saving the lives of all those sick kids, burn victims, and cancer patients.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 11:22 PM CST up reply actions
Hola Bruce Kittle?!?
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Feb 3, 2012 9:43 PM CST reply actions
Hola because I am in Cozumel and pretty sure this is all a tequila fueled dream
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Feb 3, 2012 9:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I am already sick of people mentioning Chuck Long and the coaching search is like 5 hours old
by NorseHawk on Feb 3, 2012 9:44 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
So you're saying there's a chance...
by mikjones24 on Feb 3, 2012 9:46 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Nope. Chuck Testa.
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Feb 3, 2012 9:56 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Count it!
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 5, 2012 1:53 AM CST up reply actions
So you're saying
you want Matt Rogers as OC?
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
I'm shedding a tear
for the passing of my fandom’s #1 scapegoat. KO’K is gonna do awesome things wherever he goes, even if he’s a frustrating nincompoop like he was here. A great coach, a great guy… Even if you cursed his name sometimes.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2012 9:54 PM CST via mobile reply actions
So this Brian Bennett guy is kind of not so smart
“.And few folks were complaining about O’Keefe when Stanzi led the Hawkeyes to an Orange Bowl win or when Banks guided the team to the Rose Bowl in the 2002 season.”
Really not that hard to Google things Brian
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey
by White Lightning on Feb 3, 2012 10:12 PM CST reply actions
Rose Bowl?
who went to the Rose Bowl? whats the Rose Bowl? did you go to the Rose Bowl? I didn’t go to the Rose Bowl?
HEY! Stop saying Rose Bowl in there!
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 10:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Oklahoma had a Brad Banks, too? Neat!
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2012 1:28 AM CST up reply actions
Definitely #TeamRittenberg over here.
"I’m not going to comment on anything beyond where I’ve been so far." - Gary Barta
by SomeJerkPoster on Feb 4, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hypothetical Conversation: February, 2007
Ring, ring.
Ring, ring.
Ring, ring.
“This is Bill. Go.”
“Bill! Kirk here. How’s it going buddy”
“Hey Kirk, going great. Just looking at Tom’s wife on TMZ. Lucky guy.”
“Say, Bill, got a favor to ask….it’s about Brian. I was wondering…..do you think you could, you know, sort of….well….do you think you could get him a job?”
“Say what.”
“Well, I’ve been thinking….I’m not getting younger, and we know that Ken takes so much shit from our fans he’s bound to get fed up……you know, just give him a foot in the door. Show him the ropes, the right way. The Patriots Way. I’m thinking maybe before I hang up the whistle and playbook, it would be great to have him on staff here at Iowa…..”
“I see where you’re going with this…you got it buddy. What’s his number?”
“Really? That’s great!! Hey, Brian!!! Bill wants to talk to you!!”
by hawkinsandmelrose on Feb 3, 2012 10:15 PM CST reply actions
That Bill is one solid dude.
"I’m not going to comment on anything beyond where I’ve been so far." - Gary Barta
by SomeJerkPoster on Feb 4, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
Crap.
Well, KOK play calling made up at least 50% of my comedy material when I’m with my hawk buddies. Damn, no schtick.
"Hardcore will never die, but you will."
i was overcome with happiness at this news.
yes, this will be a couple chaotic years, but i think once this years recruits and coaches get a few years, we will be a mighty fine football program. hopefully no more 3 yd hooks on 3rd and long or running draw plays all 3 downs for a combined 5 yards. i plan to watch every game this year in hopes of some entertaining, holy-crap-i-ACTUALLY-didnt-see-that-coming, big play football.
Kok is tired of this as well
Hence why he left
"The more I get hit, the more they git hit" - Marcus Coker
by Nature Boy on Feb 3, 2012 11:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah. What a bunch of shit.
All it got us was 6 bowl wins, 2 shares of Big Ten Titles, a Davey O’Brien Award, a Mackey Award, and a Doak Walker Award. Who needs those annoyances?
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 11:29 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Hooray for extremist point of views!
This comment is every bit as annoying as the comment it’s referring to.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Feb 4, 2012 1:40 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Boo.
Hoo.
Are you really saying we can’t be extremist or exaggerating in our comments or posts anymore? And if so, when did this become the ATO of the Iowa River?
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
Whatever, Chazz.
Let me know when you come back from Hyperbolea and want to have a real conversation.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I'm not feeling this comment at all.
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
by hkobb7 on Feb 4, 2012 2:01 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Holy crap.
I leave BHGP alone for one day and this happens? WHAT?
Twitterz: @EnergizerHawk
by EnergizerHawk on Feb 3, 2012 11:09 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Screw it.
I’ll be interested to see what happens. Just wish I had a six pack of beer or a bag of popcorn so I could properly digest this thread. As it is, I’ll have to do without and while I’m in bed.
Twitterz: @EnergizerHawk
by EnergizerHawk on Feb 3, 2012 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
I posted this image up there, but it didn't work. The one thing Dropbox doesn't do, I guess.
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
by hkobb7 on Feb 3, 2012 11:15 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
GET TO THE CHOPPER
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2012 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
As a Hawk fan, this leaves me nervous but excited.
As a Dolphins fan, it leaves me confused.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Feb 3, 2012 11:42 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Yeah.
The Phins need to hit a home run with their next QB, so I understand they might not want to roll the dice with O’Keefe there.
But WRs? With Brandon Marshall? I guess if it works, then great, and if it doesn’t, then you have an expendable coach to send packing after Marshall stabs 4 of his team-mates.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2012 11:52 PM CST up reply actions
KOK is the great misunderstood coach of our time
But know this fans, he’ll make Robert Griffin a great back-up QB in Miami. No one does it better.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Is this a slap at KOK,
or an actual attempt at a compliment? Because I think RG3 has about a 66% chance to be a career backup, anyway.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 12:04 AM CST up reply actions
I kind of hope you are correct.
I guess if Alex Smith can come back from the dead, perhaps RG3 can be better than I think he will.
And I hope Cam Newton goes shit-house post haste.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 12:11 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, he has the arm to be good in the NFL.
Maybe not PManning/Brady/Rogers great, but good.
I just hope they don’t make him run as much as Newton did/does. I wonder how long RG3 can handle getting clipped by NFL LBs.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 12:17 AM CST up reply actions
Sounds like Drew Brees' height
That’s a tough bar to set, but I don’t think short stature is an absolute killer
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
It's not an absolute killer, but it does matter
People can talk about Brees until they’re blue in the face but he’s very much the exception.
Griffin is listed at 6’2" though, so I don’t think he’s quite that tiny.
There have been other exceptions that did well
Doug Flutie
Mike Vick
…struggling to think of others
But yes, it’s a tough thing to overcome with the average OL/DL is 6’5" now.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
Doug Flutie was pretty bad
The only QBs under 6 feet to make multiple pro bowls are Brees, Vick, Theismann, and Tarkenton
If I’m not mistaken, it was Baylor that lists him at 6’2". I think Griffin is a fantastic talent – but there’s not way he’s six feet tall.
Pretty sure he was measured somewhere recently
and was no more than 1/2 inch less than his listed height. Brees is 6’ or 6’1". I realize heights and weights are often overstated…but these dudes are not that small.
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
Shit-house? Not me.
$1 pick-up in my fantasy auction! Between him and Gronkowski, I’ve got the two best keeper values in my league.
"I’m not going to comment on anything beyond where I’ve been so far." - Gary Barta
by SomeJerkPoster on Feb 4, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
that is a pretty damn bold statement
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 9:04 AM CST up reply actions
Cam Newton is good, don't get me wrong
but I bet RGIII will be better over the long haul. More accurate, less reckless, as good of an arm. Newton, I have a feeling, is going to settle in at the Mike VIck (this year’s version) level. Fun to watch. Dangerous against some teams. Highlight reel. Not a big winner late in the year.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
If you're right, that's a pretty good NFL player in RG3
I think you’re a little low on Newton’s ceiling, but I get where you’re coming from
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 10:10 AM CST up reply actions
I'll agree with most of it
but RGIII doesn’t have Newton’s arm. That’s not a knock – Newton is right there with Stafford for the best in the league. That kid could throw it through a brick wall.
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
I would put a decent amount of cash on Brian now...
this opens everything up…literally everything. This is KF’s moment. I hope he goes for it.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Goes for it with Brian?
that, to me, shows an incredible lack of vision.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Why? the guy is on the cutting edge
his only knock is he is related to Ferentz, and frankly without that (which led to him playing here of course) he’d never even look at Iowa.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
College football is going through a paradigm shift right now
and too many programs don’t get it. This is a chance to really move this program out of the offensive dark ages.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I think we now know that KOK was likely hired days ago, or almost immediately after JP was hired
and he stayed on to secure the recruits. The waiting by Ferentz speaks volumes.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Feb 4, 2012 12:03 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Wait a minute.
We’re going to embrace the paradigm shift by hiring the coach’s son, a TEs coach, with no college coaching experience, from the Belichick regime?
Does that whole sentence sound as absurd to anyone else as it does to me?
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 12:07 AM CST up reply actions
Look at the whole Belichick tree my friend
and yes, coaching is coaching and he was seriously considered as the next guy to call plays for the best QB of the last decade. If you think that’s silly then let your freak flag fly.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
actually...Mario Manning
ham
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Feb 4, 2012 12:35 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
That has to be the first time I can imagine people in Pennsylvania
cursing at the sight of the word “ham”.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2012 1:31 AM CST up reply actions
you're watching too much ESPN
that recent meme is laughably dumb
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 9:05 AM CST up reply actions
Next year there would be maybe five or six GMs that would select Peyton over Eli
if Peyton gets a 100% clean bill of health and there were such a thing as an open draft. I never said “all-time,” but right now Eli’s better. It’s debatable, but I side with the Eli crowd.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Peyton is still much, much better. It's not even close IMO
But if I’m a GM I probably also would gamble on 10 more years of Eli vs a realistic chance Peyton never plays again. That’s just risk management. I just didn’t think that was the discussion you were having.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
If I had to win one game, I'm of the opinion that I would gamble with Eli before Peyton.
Eli seems to man up pretty well in clutch games. Peyton doesn’t do it quite as well.
"HOW'S IT HANGIN, SLAPNUTS!"
I'm not sure "was seriously considered to call plays for Brady"
means as much as we think. I’m not sure it DOESN’T mean much, either.
Brian might very well be a “great-future-coach.” I’m just not sure he’s as revolutionary as you portray.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 12:14 AM CST up reply actions
Watch a break down of the Pats offense with anyone who knows football....they're breaking ground and
it is a passing version of KF’s tight end centric wet dream.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
To a certain extent,
aren’t they forced to focus on the TEs in New England, because Welker is the only other “reliable” offensive weapon (non-QB) they have? And because they have an HOF QB?
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 12:19 AM CST up reply actions
welker is a product of the system
no one, and I mean no one, gave two shits about him coming out of college.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
He was pretty good before he got there too
People didn’t give a shit of him out of college because he’s tiny, not because he’s bad. He was a great college player and a solid player in Miami. New England has done a nice job accentuating his positives but he’s not purely a product of the system.
He's got a position named after him
that’s pretty good.
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 4, 2012 8:15 AM CST up reply actions
The TEs scheme they use
Is a great way to leverage offensive advantage in a no huddle offense, where the defense has to be allowed to substitute if the offense does. However I do not see the point in the college game…since you could substitute without issue
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
by BoiseHawk on Feb 4, 2012 12:25 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
it's the dual use of a superb blocker and receiver
I would not expect teams to line up safeties on our TE’s so we would still get the mismatch or run it out of the spread and kill them. Like Brady did against the JEts who refused to put in LBs.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Good point as well
The versatility they bring would prove useful even in a huddle offense. Of course those guys are freaks…but you wouldnt have to have guys that good in college.
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
by BoiseHawk on Feb 4, 2012 12:38 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think, right now, we may have two freaks
ready to go (CJ, Hamilton)
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I sort of hope
that any new OC at Iowa realizes what he (possibly) has at the TE position. I’d like to see if we can come close to unleashing Moeaki/Reisner part deux on the Big Ten.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 6:58 AM CST up reply actions
When you talk about "substituting without issue," are you referring to on offense or defense?
by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 4, 2012 12:46 AM CST up reply actions
Offense
My thought being that in college you can just go no huddle and switch personel to create mismstches. In the NFL you cant do that as easily.
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
by BoiseHawk on Feb 4, 2012 8:51 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe I don't get it because I haven't followed Brian's career post-Iowa
But I really don’t get it. How many 28 year old OC’s are there out there? Is he really an experienced and qualified candidate after a few years with the Patriots?
If he got the job, he’d be working entirely in his dad’s shadow. If things worked out people would still say he only got the job because of his dad. That hardly benefits BF in developing his career. And, if things didn’t work out, they’d probably both get canned.
Personally, I’m not a fan of nepotism in coaching. I don’t think that hire would be good for anyone.
by HawkeyeInExile on Feb 4, 2012 12:09 AM CST up reply actions
Lane Kiffin ran USC's offense at 29
with arguably less quality experience.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Feb 4, 2012 12:13 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
But with considerable more animal magnetism.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 12:15 AM CST up reply actions
I know in my heart KF will not have the balls to do this
but we are so late in the hiring game he might have to hire his son and then use him as a beard, by giving another on the staff the title while Brian really calls the shots.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I have the balls to call plays for Mrs. Kiffin.
by djwoody on Feb 4, 2012 12:23 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
But do you have the plays to call balls for Mrs. Kiffin?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2012 1:33 AM CST up reply actions
Just my impression
but Mr. Kiffin is like Puddy without “The Move”
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 4, 2012 8:21 AM CST up reply actions
Brian has spent 4 (maybe) years at football's MIT
He’s worked tape, scouted and worked as a position coach. Playcalling duties are easier (somewhat) in college than in the pros. Four years with Belichick are worth 6 or 8 elsewhere.
I’d feel OK if Kirk handed him the playchart, especially if Iowa gets an old hand to call defenses.
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Feb 4, 2012 6:34 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
Just as long as he can get the play call in
with more than 8 seconds left on the play clock, we will be doing okay
It is like climbing a high mountain and finding nothing at the top except a restaurant where they sell ginger beer, surrounded by fog but equipped with wireless.
The only one that's been absolutely terrible is Weis
I think there’s a lot of good to be said for McDaniels and Crennel, but they may have had their accomplishments squashed by the fact that they’re not Belichick (and they don’t have Tom Brady)
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
He's been a position coach
for ONE FRAKKIN YEAR! If his last name were anything other than “Ferentz” this conversation wouldn’t be had at all.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Not the best evidence for your case, in my opinion
by HawkeyeInExile on Feb 4, 2012 12:17 AM CST up reply actions
Really?
He coached under Al freaking Davis, which has been shown to be such a dysfunctional organization that any coaching accomplishments or failures there must be swept under the rug (see: Jackson, Hue – fired after 1 season at 8-8, and yes, I realize Davis is gone, but the crazy remains). And now, he’s got USC back in the title hunt. The dude can coach.
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
What he lacked in experience
He quickly made up for in violations.
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
by BoiseHawk on Feb 4, 2012 12:20 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
I get the hatred, he's an ass
but he’s an example of a coach not being conventional and it working out
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Going for two early
Is stupid. Unless your kicker is broken.
Otherwise I think he has proven to be a good coach.
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
by BoiseHawk on Feb 4, 2012 12:28 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
He was clearly a good OC when he was with USC...the numbers bear it out
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Totally agreed
And he didnt get to go for two there much either…
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
by BoiseHawk on Feb 4, 2012 12:31 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think he's growing up
which is too bad. I liked his adolescent fuck ups.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Never thought I would say this
But i almost miss usc dominance…mostly just b/c fuck the sec
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
by BoiseHawk on Feb 4, 2012 12:40 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Numbers are great when you have Leinart, White, Bush, Jarrett his first year
And no Trojan fan was particularly excited about the Sark/Kiffin playcalling. A lot of people thought it cost them mNTs two years in a row.
Most fans were not excited about his hire, but are much happier now.
Bethany: Were they sent to Hell?
Metatron: Worse. Wisconsin. For the entire span of human history.
by kurthy on Feb 4, 2012 8:36 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
yeah, those guys have torn it up at the next level
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Being a crappy pro, doesn't mean you sucked in college
Unless you’re saying Brad Banks was shit and Tom Brady was the best Michgan QB ever. Leinart has the accuracy but he doesn’t have any arm strength to be a pro QB.
When Kiffin and Sark took over for Chow, Leinart had already won the Heisman and Bush finished 5th. It’s not hard to produce numbers when you’ve got that kind of talent returning. Also most of his playcalling that season was as predictable as KOK’s but KOK didn’t have Bush to run a reverse.
Bethany: Were they sent to Hell?
Metatron: Worse. Wisconsin. For the entire span of human history.
by kurthy on Feb 4, 2012 12:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Plus
Kiffin did almost not of the actual play calling
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I'm arguing those guys were made good by good coaching and good playcalling
as was banks. Once left solely to their talent, they came up short.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I would agree with you if they hadn't been great college players before Kiffin
The year before Kiffin became co-OC, he was a WR coach and Leinart won the Heisman. I would argue that Leinart had all the same weapons returning from the previous year when he was coached by Norm Chow (who has coached at least 3 Heisman winning QBs). Kiffin and Sark did nothing but almost lose to ND and a couple others and lose to Texas and Oregon State.
Bethany: Were they sent to Hell?
Metatron: Worse. Wisconsin. For the entire span of human history.
by kurthy on Feb 4, 2012 7:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't know what team you are talking about
because if they had beaten TExas just about everyone in the football world was ready to call them the greatest team in college football history. Leinart lost to Bush for the Heisman, finished third. Notre Dame was ranked #9 and playing at home and they still beat them. They had a bullseye all year and lost on one of the greatest performance in Rose Bowl history, not because of their offense, but because of their defense.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I love this comment.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2012 7:00 AM CST up reply actions
He was also co-OC
and, rumor has it, was more of the recruiter rather than Xs and Os coach of the offense which was done by the guy at University of Washington
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Time to polish up my resume
I’ll finish one more season then load up the XBox 360 & head to Iowa City in the morning.
Triple option & only Iowa recruits.
If Heisman level & virtual mythical national championships don’t impress, I don’t know what will.
Hawks for the win and falafels for the vagina
by DoYouLoveHawksorHate'Merica? on Feb 4, 2012 12:49 AM CST reply actions
I tried this when I applied for the DC spot
They were sadly not impressed.
Hey, you don't know that.
It’s not Wednesday yet.
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
by hkobb7 on Feb 4, 2012 2:06 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I got a form e-mail telling me that I did not have the necessary qualifications
Apparently leading the country in fewest yards and points allowed for 10 consecutive years is not sufficiently impressive.
by NorseHawk on Feb 4, 2012 10:09 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You really did apply? That's awesome.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2012 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, after they posted it publicly
It was taking so long I figured I might have a shot. Alas.
Should have told them your master plan
Of setting the difficulty level to Freshman. They probably hadn’t even thought of that.
by DisplacedHawkeye82 on Feb 4, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
But we already don't played in the SEC.
/SEC’d
"I’m not going to comment on anything beyond where I’ve been so far." - Gary Barta
by SomeJerkPoster on Feb 4, 2012 1:53 PM CST up reply actions
but that's defense
offense is totally an XBox 360 thing – KF is going to LOVE this!
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 4, 2012 8:23 AM CST up reply actions
ONSIDE ALL OF THE KICKS!
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2012 1:33 AM CST up reply actions
So, it's morning and this still happened
I was okay waiting for Norm’s replacement, but I am antsy now for us to get all the new coaches in place
The real question is
how does HFMR feel now that his roommate is moving the Miami?
Only one acceptable answer
Roadtrip!
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Feb 4, 2012 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
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