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It's Not Plagiarism If You Link To It: A Too Early Look Ahead At Iowa Football Recruiting For 2013


When is too early to start the creepy caring? Iowa, like many of the country's college football programs, hosted several prospective high school juniors the weekend after their 2012 recruiting class filled the fax machine with freshly inked letters of intent. ESPN's Ivan Maisel writes that Iowa invited nearly 60 junior prospects to Iowa City. Iowa head coach Kirk Ferentz said,

"nothing has changed as much as the pace of recruiting. It continues to really accelerate. I don't see it ending."

Ferentz added,

"We were half to two-thirds done with the [2011] class. I got 60 juniors there. And I'm recruiting two or three kids who were eligible for the [NFL] draft to stay. I got two or three balls in the air, and I'm [saying to] the coaches on my staff, 'What the hell is going on?'"

Per 24/7 Sports (Voice of the Hawkeyes), Iowa has already offered 32 juniors a scholarship for football. This isn't uncommon for Iowa as the coaching staff needs to offer early and offers over 100 high school prospects each recruiting year. Not all of these recruits were at Iowa's junior day as several in-state prospects and recruits yet to receive and offer were present.

According to Iowa's latest football roster, Iowa has 16 players on scholarship that will enter their senior season. The positions suffering the biggest losses are quarterback (2), wide receiver (2), offensive line (3), defensive tackle (2), and the defensive backfield (4). In addition to scholarship players Iowa will also lose Tom Donatell (LB) and Zach Derby (TE); Both played significant snaps in 2011. That's 18 for a recruiting class, work in some attrition and the number is around 20 for the 2013 class size.

So, what are some names to watch? Let's start with the newly released Rivals Top 250 and rated recruits in the state Iowa has had the most recent success, Illinois. There is Aaron Bailey, a Top 150 rated dual threat QB (youtube) who probably projects as a wide receiver. Also in the Top 250, is running back Ty Isacc (youtube), offensive tackle Ethan Pocic (youtube), wide receiver Laquon Treadwell (youtube), offensive tackle Kyle Bosch (youtube), offensive tackle Logan Tuley-Tillman (youtube), and quarterback Matt Alviti (youtube).

Quite a list of talent in Illinois, what about Iowa? Jake Campos (youtube), of West Des Moines Valley, makes the Rivals Top 250 at #204. The senior-to-be holds an Iowa offer as well as offers from Iowa State, Missouri and Purdue. Other in-state prospects with either an Iowa offer or interest include: Jon Wisnieski TE (West Des Moines Dowling), Sam Raridon DT (West Des Moines Valley), Trev Hadachek ATH (La Port City), Jeremy Morgan WR (Iowa City West), Jesse Ertz QB (Mediapolis), Kyle Starcevich QB (South East Polk), Joel Lanning ATH (Ankeny), Dondre Alexander WR (Iowa City West) and Bryce Sweeney OL (Sioux City Heelan).

So, that's Iowa and Illinois. For the rest of the prospects I'll list the name (with Rivals profile), position, location, and YouTubes:

Joey Bosa - DE - Ft. Lauderdale, Florida -video

Jaylon Smith - OLB - Ft Wayne, Indiana - video

Dorian O'Daniel - OLB - Olney, Maryland - video

Henry Poggi - DT - Baltimore, Maryland - video

Chris Fox - OL - Parker, Colorado - video

Patrick Kulger - OT - Wexford, Pennsylvania

Greg Webb - DT - Sicklerville, New Jersey - video

Jake Butt - TE - Pickerington, Ohio - video

Elijah Daniel - DE - Avon, Indiana - video

Tim Kimbrough - LB - Indianapolis, Indiana - video

Billy Price - DT - Youngstown, Ohio

Kevin Olsen - QB - Wayne, New Jersey - video

Jourdan Lewis - CB - Detroit, Michigan - video

Antonio Allen - S - Indianapolis, Indiana

Taco Charlton - DE - Pickerington, Ohio - video

Christian Morgan - TE - Plano, Texas - video

Nick Ramirez - LB - Lee's Summit, Missouri - video

David Kenney - DE - Indianapolis, Indiana -video

Trent Hosick - ATH - Kansas City, Missouri - video

Demetrius Stinson - ATH - Detroit, Michigan

James Onwualu- WR - St. Paul, Minnesota - video

Dajaun Drennon- DE - Sicklerville, New Jersey - video

Cory Jasudowich - LB - Cheshire, Connecticut - video

Just because Iowa has offered doesn't mean they have a chance. At this time last year Iowa had offers out to Dorial Green-Beckham, Noah Spence, Ondre Pipkins and more Top 100 recruits. The Hawkeyes were eliminated early in the process by those top rated prospects but did land Top 250 players Ryan Ward, Jaleel Johnson and Faith Ekakitie.

That's certainly not a complete list, but plenty of prospects there to creep you the hell out. Iowa has already started working on the class of 2014. EdgyTim reports that current Illinois sophomore Brian Allen already holds an Iowa offer. Ross Pierschbacher, a Cedar Falls offensive tackle has an offer too.

After the jump, Hawkeye sports round-up and more links.

Star-divide

What's $2100 get you these days? It gets you a Fran McCaffrey autographed chair. Not just any chair, a chair from Michigan State (it's not clear if this is the exact chair McCaffery tossed, doubt it). Iowa baseball held a steak fry and auction last night, this was awarded to a winning bid of $2100.

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H/T @BigWeitz

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about five posts down is a pretty good post with Iowa prospects

seriously?

by PSD on Feb 13, 2012 9:15 AM CST reply actions  

I've heard about the Starcevich kid at SEP.

I think he tore up his knee playing basketball this year, though. Hope he’s ready for FB season.

Hopefully Dondre Alexander pulls a Keenan Davis rather than an Adrian Arrington or a Amarah Darboh.

Jeremy Morgan(6’5 160) from IC West

Talk about a beanpole.

Anthony Combs from Sioux City West 6’0 210lb MLB/FB.

Holy shit, that would be the first D1 prospect from my HS since, um, Zeron Flemister, I think…

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Sioux City West?

A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves

by waterboy31321 on Feb 13, 2012 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry to hear that.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Feb 13, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Better there than East, North, or (shudder) Heelan.

/winning is overrated

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

/west side 4ever

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

The West Side scares me.

Too much Dakota and Braska stink floating in the air.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Feb 13, 2012 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I cannot refute that.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

BJ Stead or Steed? I think he played at UAB

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by waterboy31321 on Feb 13, 2012 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmm...

Do not remember him, maybe he was after my time. I just know that West has been uniformly awful at football for as long as I can remember, with 1-2 exceptions.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I think he was in my class

like 2005 he would have graduated. I think he ended up going to UAB and played and maybe even started a year at lineback. He was big and scary. I really thought he was gonna kill my friend one time, he had the craziest look in his eye and at one point he said “lets get it on”

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by waterboy31321 on Feb 13, 2012 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

That would have been a few years after me.

They had their only decent year in my recollection while I was a junior — made the state quarters (I think) before losing to fucking Ankeny in some godforsaken ice bowl. Whenever I ask my dad how they’re doing or happen to look up the scores online, it seems like they’re getting absolutely drilled. Their games against CIML competition tend to be particularly ugly.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

they really aren’t good at anything anymore, they were gonna have/did have wesley staten in basketball, until heelan snatched him up and then he just up and left high school altogether with d1 offers on the table

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by waterboy31321 on Feb 13, 2012 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, what happened to him?

I remember hearing a few things about him and then… pfft.

They had really good basketball while I was a student, but that’s because I happened to be there at the same time as Kyle Galloway and then Kirk Hinrich.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Some McCaffery quotes from today's teleconference

via Aaron Brenner

ajbrenner11 Aaron Brenner
McCaffery on freshman Aaron White: “The first couple practices, he was nervous. By the third or fourth practice, he was dominant.” “He’s one of the hardest workers I’ve ever had. It bodes well for where he’s headed.”

ajbrenner11 Aaron Brenner
McCaffery on 6-8 Zach McCabe playing center: "It’s not stunting his growth. It’s a guy fulfilling a need his team needs.

seriously?

by PSD on Feb 13, 2012 9:20 AM CST reply actions  

Taco

I can hear Dolph now " Taco with the tackle" .

by 2LastNameWideReceiver on Feb 13, 2012 9:24 AM CST reply actions  

I do not care

What position he plays or how talented he is. He absolutely MUST be the number one recruit on our board. If Kirk fails to sign a young man named Taco, I will lose all faith in the program.

by Drake Hawk on Feb 13, 2012 12:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Actually, Tacopants is the perfect WR

See: MGoBlog joke about the 11foot tall invisible receiver Henne(?) would often throw to. Basically the reverse JC6.

by Ill Jukes on Feb 13, 2012 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

That is an incredible amount of work there, PSD

Thanks

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Feb 13, 2012 9:31 AM CST reply actions  

Gathering and comparing the lists was the most time consuming thing

and I wanted to have something after signing day but other news came to the front. I wanted to start eliminating some of these names but there’s still lots of time. Historically, Iowa’s first commits start around April but don’t pick up until the Summer.

seriously?

by PSD on Feb 13, 2012 9:40 AM CST up reply actions  

I think there is a possibility that is the actual chair

1) Why would MSU give us a chair to auction off unless maybe he broke it?
2) I think a $2,100 price leans me to believe that it is the chair.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Feb 13, 2012 9:33 AM CST reply actions  

Also, this is freaking hilarious

Fran is a good sport and clearly has a nice sense of humor about himself.

by Captain n Diet Coker on Feb 13, 2012 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Ditto – I think this is hilarious.

by txhawkeye on Feb 13, 2012 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Fran

+1

"And after it was all over, he took us in the house and served us pancakes... pancakes." - Charlie Murphy

by Podolak Pimpin' on Feb 13, 2012 11:04 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

"Coach with passion"

Yep, excellent sense of humor.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Feb 13, 2012 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Fran: "Okay Bloodpunch, I'll see your public backpedaling, and I'll raise you $2100."

FRAN FOR AD!

"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags

"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 13, 2012 8:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Coach has beautiful penmanship

An autograph you can actually read!

"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"

by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 13, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

WTF

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

That reads like a story from The Onion. WTF indeed.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Feb 13, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

“The Iowa tradition of baton twirling excellence established by each of our previous Golden Girls will continue,” he said.

WHEW.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 10:47 AM CST reply actions  

I KNOW, RIGHT?

YAY for baton twirling excellence!

Twitterz: @EnergizerHawk

by EnergizerHawk on Feb 13, 2012 10:49 AM CST up reply actions  

The slideshow that accompanies the article is extremely high on the unintentional comedy scale. I recommend it.

by txhawkeye on Feb 13, 2012 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

IT'S AN INSTITUTION!

THINK OF THE KIDS!

"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags

"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 13, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Also, 33-0 lifetime against ISU in tennis?

SUCK IT.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 10:47 AM CST reply actions  

I keep unintentionally attending tennis super powers

Luther has inexplicably won like 40 IIAC Women’s Tennis titles. Pre Sec Ter Qua, motherfuckers.

by NorseHawk on Feb 13, 2012 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not sure the Iowa tennis team has been able to extend their dominance of ISU to, um, anywhere else.

I don’t recall hearing about any B1G or NCAA titles lately…

But, hey, we pwn ISU.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

My stepsis covered Iowa tennis for the SID for many years

They certainly do not do as well against other schools. At the time, though, they had a very jNW basketball-like flair for having kids on scholarship from many foreign countries. Interesting guys to meet, usually.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Feb 13, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

My sister's roommate in school was a tennis player from Croatia or the like

pretty hot, but largely just here for the tennis and the hopes of marrying a “rich old man”

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Feb 13, 2012 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

You ever have any interactions with the Luther women's tennis coach?

She is INTENSE. Not quite Brands level, but still up there. I ran track and during some practices indoors no one dared step anywhere near the tennis courts as they’d feel the wrath. I also took a golf class from her. She was pretty laid back for that, and kinda funny. I think she really liked any athletes in her classes.

by StewMonkey13 on Feb 13, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I did not pay close enough attention to the tennis team to know whether or not I did

But maybe! I didn’t really pay attention to any Luther sports while I was there aside from going to a couple football games. The only coach I could pick out of lineup was the assistant football coach who taught my Team Sports class (best class, I got college credit for playing kickball)

by NorseHawk on Feb 13, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Trev Hadachek..

From LPC-Union would be a good pick up.3 standouts from their state team this year along with RB Wes Burnside (senior) and QB Jay Scheel ( Soph?). Scheel is absolutely legit. Video: I think Hadachek is #5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofLInKU-TUg

"And after it was all over, he took us in the house and served us pancakes... pancakes." - Charlie Murphy

by Podolak Pimpin' on Feb 13, 2012 11:03 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Rodney Coe opening up recruitment, via twitter
Opening recruitment back up #ithinkso #seeyaiowa

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by waterboy31321 on Feb 13, 2012 11:53 AM CST reply actions  

Convo with coach #notgood #whereigofromhere

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by waterboy31321 on Feb 13, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

some chick asked about Iowa State, he responded

@SH3LBB_769 yeah…….um no #notstayinginiowa

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by waterboy31321 on Feb 13, 2012 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

If I have to play d-line…… #notgoingtoiowa

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by waterboy31321 on Feb 13, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I get the feeling after this morning hes not gonan be a hawkeye
@CallMe_Ivo I wouldn’t mind going to florida or Cali or somewhere just south

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by waterboy31321 on Feb 13, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I want to see how many mildly disparaging hashtags he can come up with

that have the word “iowa” in them

#iowaismean
#notgoingtolearnhowtodougieiniowa
#notenoughloveforrangercookiesiniowa

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by therealCatnuts on Feb 13, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

After reading his timeline

I understand why Kirk doesn’t like his kids on Twitter. Calling a professor a bitch would probably get you in the doghouse.

by mikjones24 on Feb 13, 2012 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Ouch

I’d still like to see Iowa fan not speak poorly of him.

by Ill Jukes on Feb 13, 2012 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

MORE
COEsoCOLD27 Rodney Coe
@
@AGrubb11 ok I understand that, like I said before Iowa just wasn’t one of my choices to go if I was to play DL thats all I’m saying

COEsoCOLD27 Rodney Coe
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@JHassDDStretch @marcmorehouse I’m not saying exactly I won’t go to Iowa, I just mean i had other places I would of gone if I was to play DL

COEsoCOLD27 Rodney Coe
Well I’m not in the best mood so I’m speaking out my ass and all these ppl tweeting at me talking shit on me ain’t helping my decision

COEsoCOLD27 Rodney Coe
@
@jnolan45 @iowahawkguy yeah I don’t like dealing with pre Madonna fans and lame ass reporter guys either #gofuckurself

seriously?

by PSD on Feb 13, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

and
COEsoCOLD27 Rodney Coe
@
@cakram02 @hawkeyeinsider and muscle weighs more than fat buddy’s so as long I got muscle I be over weigh all I want thank yu very much

COEsoCOLD27 Rodney Coe
@
@cakram02 @hawkeyeinsider if I’m such an asshole and d-bag get the fuck off my shit then pal

COEsoCOLD27 Rodney Coe
@
@drewskie33 @hawkeyeinsider supposedly they dropped me anyways, so get off my jock and fuck off, I can be an asshole just keep talking

COEsoCOLD27 Rodney Coe
@
@stevenhusk thanks appreciate it, just happy I see what kinda ppl are truly around Iowa and how they feel

seriously?

by PSD on Feb 13, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Twitter degeneration is unfortunate

Stupid “fans” and their inability to be nice to him in his personal decision. Ugh.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Feb 13, 2012 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I will be stunned (and disappointed)

if every college in the country isn’t offering some sort of Social Media Awareness course as part of Freshman Orientation in the very near future. I mean, it would really help if we could teach people who respond to not be assholes, but that’s a bit harder than just trying to teach people to be careful about what they post.

At the very very least, I hope every athletic program is doing more to instruct incoming athletes on how to handle social media.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Who is getting killed right now
Zach Barr @zb22oz
@HawkeyeInsider You depend on high school athlets for work….get a real job you fucking pussy…run off a few more recruits….clown

by Ill Jukes on Feb 13, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

now Adrian Clayborn is involved

Called some people cowards, hawkeye insider replies. “You calling me a coward, tough guy”. Cant make this stuff up.

seriously?

by PSD on Feb 13, 2012 3:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Ugh. That is pathetic

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by therealCatnuts on Feb 13, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Rob Howe really needs to step away from the computer for a while.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

He often seems a bit high-strung.


"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion - however satisfying and reassuring."

by Bucketochicken on Feb 13, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Looks like he's now hiding behind the

“I’m just retweeting what other say” defense

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Feb 13, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

And then the "I'm just messing with you Adrian"

I didn’t mean to upset you when I called you a tough guy.

I’m surprised he didn’t follow it with, “Please don’t punch me”

by The Mexican't on Feb 13, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Rob Howe is probably OK unless he has a sidejob as a racist cabbie.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

That's true.

Without internet heros, who will stand up to internet tough guys?

AND THEN THE TERRORISTS WIN.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Not Rob Howe's best day

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Feb 13, 2012 2:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Definitely not his finest hour

I don’t know what’s going on with him, honestly. He’s been negative for awhile now.

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Feb 13, 2012 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

He still wants to know if Prater is a problem, dammit.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

FTFY
I can’t wait for the day when I’m hard enough to talk shit to a teenager

Carrying truly is creepy.

I keed, I keed

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Feb 13, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

These comments are gong to remain funny to me for a while

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by therealCatnuts on Feb 13, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

God people are the fucking worst

HOW DARE YOU NOT PLAY SPORTS FOR A TEAM I LIKE!!!!

by NorseHawk on Feb 13, 2012 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

"pre Madonna"

Guess he’s not pre-Med.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Feb 13, 2012 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

wow

I can’t believe no one else touched on that. What’s more shocking though, it that I never realized that Madonna was a Hawkeye at one time.

"Man, I miss the 70s, look at all those white pants." -Hayden Fry

by Scrotie McBoogerballs on Feb 14, 2012 8:13 AM CST up reply actions  

I have long understood the KF twitter ban

I actually don’t understand how that’s not standard protocol for a D1 scholarship athlete

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by therealCatnuts on Feb 13, 2012 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, poop.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Ok, so did Iowa never talk to him about the possiblity of changing positions?

I’d assume that would have come up at some point in his recruitment. Either way, #smh.

by Ill Jukes on Feb 13, 2012 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Presumably they did the same thing they do with everyone who might make a switch

Promise to give him a shot at his desired position and then address it down the road if it doesn’t work out. With Coe, he’s already wasted two years of development time, so it’s harder to let him fuck around at RB for half a season if they don’t think he can play there. I believe he’s also put on quite a bit of weight since he got there, making playing RB less of a realistic possibility.

by NorseHawk on Feb 13, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Why does KF not want his own Jovorskie Lane?!

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

thats awesome, a jovorskie lane appearance

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by waterboy31321 on Feb 13, 2012 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

We'll see if he calms down

People say lots of things they might not mean in a passionate moment. Unfortunately for him, he’s tweeting those dumb things.

And he’s probably in for a rude awakening if he thinks he can play RB in “florida or Cali or somewhere just south”, or at least at any notable school.

And besides, why the obsession with RB anyway? If he’s got a better shot to make the NFL as a DL, that’s not a bad thing. There are a dozen DL spots on an NFL roster and only 3-4 RB spots, and the longevity for RBs is woefully shorter than any other position.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Feb 13, 2012 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Eh I can understand wanting to play RB

It’s a more high profile position, that’s what he’s always defined himself as, and he might just flat out enjoy playing it a lot more. I think he probably is seriously limiting his future opportunities by being so adamant about sticking there, but if that’s what he wants to play then so be it.

I understand why Iowa wants him to make the switch right away now, but I can also understand why he’d object to it. He committed largely because he was promised a shot to play RB (which very few other schools were offering) and that’s no longer the case.

by NorseHawk on Feb 13, 2012 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I can understand the reticence

but I hope for his sake that he also really gives it some thought rather than just an emotional reaction. I don’t really care if he makes that decision and comes to Iowa or if it’s someplace else, but it looks like it’s a decision he really needs to make if he’s going to have a shot at the NFL.

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by therealCatnuts on Feb 13, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

One of his replies re: the situation suggests that he may be ready for the DL move.

He said something about playing DL at a different school, which is why he’s considering a move south. If he’s got offers to play DL elsewhere then re-opening his recruitment makes more sense. He committed to Iowa because of the RB offer, not to play DL. He’s an entirely different prospect now.

by The Mexican't on Feb 13, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess

but again, if his goal is to make it to the NFL, playing DL here is a good start

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by chitownhawkeye on Feb 13, 2012 6:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Could be.

But if programs in California or Florida are interested in him as a DL, then it could be just as good plus sun and girls.

by The Mexican't on Feb 13, 2012 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

He's probably so upset because we told him he'd have a shot at RB if he came here

And we’re seemingly going back on our word. Then again, he probably told us that he’d actually qualify to play…

by mikjones24 on Feb 13, 2012 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know that we're going back on it, the situation is just different

We told him that when he was coming out of high school and had more eligibility time to experiment with different position (also when he was like 30 pounds lighter than he reportedly is now)

by NorseHawk on Feb 13, 2012 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Hope not

He hasn’t done a particularly great job at his last two stints. Older Iowa fans seem less that enthused with him too, at least as compared to Ferentz. He is a good recruiter though, or at least he used to be, especially on the East Coast.

Anyway, he doesn’t have any connection to Kirk so I sort of doubt he’s on our radar.

by NorseHawk on Feb 13, 2012 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Do not want.

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by SomeJerkPoster on Feb 13, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm a bit worried about the Golden Girl's name

It doesn’t really roll off the tongue as well as I’ve come to expect.

by rupertj on Feb 13, 2012 12:46 PM CST reply actions  

I hope that doesn't negatively impact her ability to win awards.

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by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Seck 'er And 'er son?

I hardly knew ’er!

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by therealCatnuts on Feb 13, 2012 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Yikes.

I hope he’s okay.

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by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

No really a huge fan of Dan McCarney as a person

But yeah, I guess I do not want him to suffer, like, serious healthy problems.

by NorseHawk on Feb 13, 2012 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Devyn Marble's AWESOME dunk against Minnesota...

is nominated for a GEICO College Basketball Play of the Year Award.

Vote early and vote often, people.

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by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 12:59 PM CST reply actions  

I, for one, preferred this one but I'll vote for a DMFM dunk anyday

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by KF Bubblegum on Feb 13, 2012 5:04 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I, for one, am losing it b/c that's Archie not Marble

plus image fail

/retreats to under the table

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-Kirk Ferentz

by KF Bubblegum on Feb 13, 2012 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Non-Iowa rumor...

Former Maryland QB Danny O’Brien to Wisconsin. I don’t know if he’d available to play right away, though. (If not, seems like it would be much less useful for them.)

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by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 1:58 PM CST reply actions  

I believe I read that he would graduate this summer and be eligible immediately under the graduate rule

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by waterboy31321 on Feb 13, 2012 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah.

Well then it would make more sense for Wisco to pursue him since they certainly need a decent QB option for 2012.

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by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

The Rent-An-ACC-QB gamble is one they clearly have to make again

A competent QB solves most of their problems, at least offensively. It gives Bart Houston a chance to come in, learn the system, and salvage his confidence (he was a 4-star, then fell off the face of the Earth during his senior year). They don’t have to rely on the no-names that took up the back-up spot last year. And with OSU banned from the title game next year, they could potentially go back to Indy next year even with a 2nd-place divisional finish. O’Brien is from St. Paul, so being close to home is a selling point. However, his OC at Maryland is now at Vanderbilt, and I think they’re rumored to be in the race as well.

Then again, things look shaky with the large staff turnover they experienced, the weak class they brought in (just 12-deep – I can only imagine how out of control this and other Iowa sites would be with a class that was just 12-deep), and the defense being less-than ideal. Montee Ball (stupidly) coming back and the possibility of O’Brien makes it look a little better, but they look nowhere near as good as they did a year ago.

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Feb 13, 2012 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Bielema going to 3 Rose Bowls in a row

when we haven’t been there in over 20 years would be the very definition of WTF.

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by Flakbait on Feb 13, 2012 3:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

With Ball back, O’Brien a possibility, and OSU out of the picture, a place in Indy would be in play, even with that shitastic defense. Once you’re in Indy, anything can happen, especially when you’ll (probably) have another good running game with Ball and whoever they plug into their line.

Wisconsin going to 3 Rose Bowls in a row and 6 overall since Iowa’s last appearance would be too much to bear. The only possible positive from that would be that they’d lose 3 in a row.

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Feb 13, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

A 12-player class would mean that with our recent attrition issues, we'd have about 6 members of that class still here in 2014.

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by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

And, yeah, I think the gamble is worth it this year with a B1G title being up for grabs.

That division looks like a cesspool with OSU banned from the postseason. I can honestly talk myself into Purdue winning (or finishing 2nd, which is as good as winning) that damn division. Oh, to be a Leader for a year…

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by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

A 12-man class would vanish into thin air in Iowa City

I don’t want to think where they’d stand by year 4. Seriously – would anyone still be around?

The Purdue-to-Indy scenario is surprisingly plausible. I think we talked about this post-OSU penalties. It’s plausible with how messy that division looks.

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Feb 13, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I keep waiting for the clock to strike midnight on Wisconsin

yet so far Bielema keeps finding a way to squeeze out a few more seconds.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Feb 13, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Just start calling Urban Meyer "Midnight," then.

I have a feeling this year could be the end of Wisconsin’s window. (And everyone else in the Leaders division, for that matter.)

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by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

It'll be closed for that division until Urban wears down

But that only happens after he owns the league for 6 or 7 years and throws in a couple national titles.

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Feb 13, 2012 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Wears down or loses his future Heisman trophy winning QB

to an in-conference opponent and soon finds an excuse to leave town instead of dealing with a few down years?

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by HawKCP on Feb 13, 2012 4:20 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

There's also that

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Feb 13, 2012 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope they announce it in advance so I can set my DVR.

Although with all the ESS EE SEE speed Urbz is sure to bring to Columbus, it will be over in no time. Those fat, slow Wisco guys won’t stand a chance.

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by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought about that degree.

But Cyndi Lauper 101was filled up the day I tried to sign up.

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by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

That's because Cyndi Lauper rulez.

Seriously, I still have “Time After Time” as a 5-star song on my iTunes

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by therealCatnuts on Feb 13, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Clearly, you are a man of wealth and taste.

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by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I prefer True Colors

but then again, I only have taste.

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by Flakbait on Feb 13, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

And that's why I love you

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by therealCatnuts on Feb 13, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know if his transfer says anything negative about him.

He lost his starting job under a new coach a year after being a freshman AA and ACC rookie of the year.

According to this article: http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7570977/maryland-terrapins-danny-obrien-transferring

24 players have transferred since Edsall took over at Maryland, 12 of them since the end of the season, including a starting linebacker and their starting left tackle.

by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 13, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, their attrition issues make ours look not bad at all.

Players are jumping off the H.M.S. Edsall at an alarming rate.

Apparently, wacky uniforms aren’t THAT much of a selling point…

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by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, I didn't mean that as a slight against O'Brien.

It was a callback to the Pre-madonna tweet / Pre-Med comment from the Coe conversation.

by The Mexican't on Feb 13, 2012 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Nope

You’re thinking of Johnny McEntee, apparently.

Danny O’Brien has spent his whole career at Maryland.

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by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Ahem.

We could play them in THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONSHIP GAME, homie.

What? Stop laughing. I mean. Stop it. It’s hurtful.

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by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't be so quick to rule out God smiting the entire state of Michigan...

and the Children of the Corn rising up to reclaim Nebraska.

Then it’s smooth sailing all the way to Indianapolis!

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by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not kidding either.

They should be better next season, we’ll probably be worse, and they REALLY, REALLY care about this rivalry.

by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 13, 2012 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

you are making yourself sound like a crazy person

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by therealCatnuts on Feb 13, 2012 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Minnesota, more B1G wins or more Kill health alarms? I vote the latter.

by txhawkeye on Feb 13, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

It will take more than one win against Iowa to get them to Indy.

Also, I would like to see them win more than one non-conference game before I get on the Kill4Indy bandwagon.

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by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I wasn't suggesting they would make it to Indy

Just that a loss to them might hurt our divisional standings and knock us out of contention.

by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 13, 2012 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah, well, that's a fair point.

If you’ll excuse me, I need to get back to arming some militias in Nebraska and praying for the Rapture to hit Michigan…

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by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

The extreme winds might clean up Detroit

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by therealCatnuts on Feb 13, 2012 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, not the UPers for sure.

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by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Jack Van Impe's DVD sales would skyrocket (/rimshot).

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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 13, 2012 9:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Ross, I like the way you think

but you probably need to get a little rest.

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by Flakbait on Feb 13, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

It's so hard to sleep when I spend so much time praying for Michigan to get smited, though.

Smitten? Smote?

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by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Is there any indication we have a real chance of getting Ty Isaac?

It looked like he had mad skillz in the linked youtube video, but then I looked at his rivals page and he was listed as #18 nationally which usually means there would be no chance of Iowa getting him.

by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 13, 2012 3:01 PM CST reply actions  

But, but: Blake Larsen!

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by therealCatnuts on Feb 13, 2012 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

See and he was bad!

So we don’t even WANT this kid. Something something, Dallas Clark.

by NorseHawk on Feb 13, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

All 2* recruits are the next Dallas Clark.

All 5* recruits are the next Blake Larsen.

/Iowa fan mantra’d

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by RossWB on Feb 13, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

/messageboard'd

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by SomeJerkPoster on Feb 13, 2012 4:27 PM CST up reply actions  

/Chazz'd

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Feb 14, 2012 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

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