We Must Break You Has Mat Mayhem Fever
(EDIT: This is also the open thread for the tournament today.)
The NWCA National Duals finally announced seeds and and brackets earlier this week for this weekend's event. The location of the finals will be announced at the end of the weekend as well as the bracket for the semifinals and finals -- there's no indication, for instance, that the Ames regional winner will face the Piscataway regional winner in the semifinals. My guess is that they'll seed the finals based on the four remaining teams and then use that to set up the matchups.
To the best of my knowledge, there is no TV coverage of this event planned. According to this link, there will be a live video stream available, as well as a live webcast from The Open Mat. AM 800-KXIC and Hawkeye All-Access will also have Grace and Ironside calling the action. Competition starts at 11am tomorrow, although Iowa won't wrestle until 1pm. (If they win, they'll wrestle again at 3pm.) I imagine Andy Hamitlon will have a liveblog on Hawk Central.
Ames, IA regional (Feb. 12)
1) Iowa (#5)
2) Oregon State (#16)
3) Iowa State
4) Virginia Tech (#23)
5) UNI
6) Wisconsin
First round: ISU vs. Wisconsin, Va Tech v. UNI; Iowa and Oregon State receive byes
Semifinals: Iowa vs. Va Tech/UNI, Oregon State vs. ISU/Wisconsin
Finals: TBA
On paper, Iowa certainly got the easiest regional of the four. There are only three ranked teams here, and only one (Iowa) is ranked in the top ten. The inclusion of Wisconsin, one of the worst teams in the nation this year, points out the flaws of using an invitation-based system rather than a merit-based system, though. Literally any other Big Ten team would have been more worthy of a spot here than the Badgers. Oh well. Iowa is the decided favorite and should win this regional.
Piscataway, NJ regional (Feb. 11)
1) Minnesota (#4)
2) Michigan (#11)
3) Missouri (#13)
4) Kent State (#14)
5) Rutgers
6) Cal Poly
First round: Missouri v. Cal Poly, Kent State v. Rutgers; Minnesota and Michigan receive byes
Semifinals: Minnesota v. Kent State/Rutgers, Michigan v. Missouri/Cal Poly
Finals: TBA
Minnesota earns the top seed here and will likely battle it out with Michigan or Missouri for the available semifinal spot. They beat Michigan in a dual earlier this season, 23-15, and it's difficult to see either Michigan or Missouri having the top-to-bottom depth to upset the Gophers.
Ithaca, NY regional (Feb. 12)
1) Cornell (#3)
2) Illinois (#7)
3) Oklahoma (#12)
4) Central Michigan (#25)
5) Purdue
6) American University
First round: Oklahoma v. American, Central Michigan v. Purdue; Cornell and Illinois receive byes
Semifinals: Cornell v. Central Michigan/Purdue, Illinois v. Oklahoma/American
Finals: TBA
Cornell is the top seed here and their top challengers appear to be Illinois and Oklahoma. They haven't wrestled either team yet this season. Oklahoma likely doesn't have the overall depth to topple either team, but Cornell-Illinois could be a very intriguing battle. Edge to Cornell slightly, but this appears to be the regional most likely to see one of the top seeds lose.
Stillwater, OK regional (Feb. 12)
1) Oklahoma State (#1)
2) Nebraska (#8)
3) Ohio State (#6)
4) Wyoming (#10)
5) Chattanooga
6) Boise State
First round: Ohio State v. Boise State, Wyoming v. Chattanooga; Oklahoma State and Nebraska receive byes
Semifinals: Oklahoma State v. Wyoming/Chattanooga, Nebraska v. Ohio State/Boise State
Finals: TBA
So much for getting any perks as the top seed. Oklahoma State is the top-ranked (dual meet) team in the land, but all that gets them is the toughest of the four regionals, with four top-ten teams. The Pokes beat Wyoming earlier in the year, 24-17, but didn't face Nebraska or Ohio State. Nebraska owns a pair of close wins over Wyoming (19-15) and Ohio State (18-16), which is probably why they earned the 2-seed despite Ohio State's higher overall ranking. It's hard to see Oklahoma State getting knocked off with their strong top-to-bottom depth, but the final three meets of this regional (the semis and the finals) should be very close.
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Aside from team superiority, though, the National Duals will be very useful in setting up seeds at the upcoming conference and NCAA Tournaments. Here's a weight-by-weight look at things.
125: 12 of InterMat's top 20 are competing here. If Missouri and Minnesota face each other, we could see #2 Zach Sanders (Minnesota) vs. #3 Alan Waters (Missouri). McD doesn't figure to get too challenged in the Ames regional, but he could see Sanders, #5 Frank Perrelli (Cornell), or #7 Jesse Delgado (Illinois) in the semis or finals. A match with Delgado would, of course, provide the opportunity for McD to avenge his lone loss this season.
133: This has been a topsy-turvy weight class this season and National Duals could further shake it up. 14 of InterMat's top 20 are at Nationals Duals and we could see a lot of one-on-one match-ups between those guys over the next few weeks. Ramos should face top-ranked Devin Carter in the second round of the Ames regional. Okie State's Jordan Oliver could face Ohio State's Logan Stieber in the finals of the Stillwater regional and the winner of that match could face Ramos in the semis or finals next week. Illinois' B.J. Futrell and Minnesota's Chris Dardanes could also get cracks at those top-four guys if their teams makes it to the semis/finals, too.
141: 13 of InterMat's top 20 are here. The top potential showdowns appear to be Marion (#6) vs. Mike Mangrum (#4) of Oregon State, Hunter Stieber (#5) of Ohio State vs. Jake Sueflohn (#9) of Nebraska, and Kellen Russell (#1) of Michigan vs. Nick Dardanes (#8) of Minnesota. The semifinal and final showdowns aren't quite as exciting, unless there are some upsets and Michigan or Ohio State get through; assuming they lose the best potential match appears to be Marion v. Dardanes.
149: 11 of InterMat's top 20 are at National Duals, but just one of the top five. The best matchups here might be Eric Grajales (#6) of Michigan vs. Dylan Ness (#10) of Minnesota and Ness vs. Jamal Parks (#2) of Oklahoma State.
157: Only 9 of InterMat's top 20 are in action at National Duals, but there are a few potentially intriguing matches in play like Kyle Dake (#1) of Cornell vs. Ganbayar Sanjaa (#3) of American and Dake vs. DSJ (#5) in the semis or finals, as well as DSJ vs. James Green (#7) of Nebraska.
165: 11 of InterMat's top 20 are in action at National Duals, with the potential for some very interesting matches. This weekend we could get Mike Evans (#8) vs. Peter Yates (#7) of Virginia Tech and Evans vs. Andrew Sorenson (#4) of Iowa State (and, for that matter, we could also get Yates vs. Sorenson), while #11 Ben Jordan (of Wisconsin) will face at least Soresnon. We could also see Shane Onufer (#3) of Wyoming vs. Robert Kokesh (#6) of Nebraska. The semifinal/final matchups aren't quite so enticing; the best possible matchups there look like Evans against Conrad Polz (#12) of Illinois, Dan Yates (#13) of Michigan, or Cody Yohn (#14) of Minnesota.
174: 11 of InterMat's top 20 are at National Duals, with a few potentially intriguing matchups on tap. Chris Perry (#3) of Okie State could face Nick Heflin (#7) of Ohio State, while Ethen Lofthouse (#9) could face Chris Spangler (#5) of Iowa State. Ryan DesRoches (#4) of Cal Poly could take on Logan Storley (#6) of Minnesota or Justin Zeerip #8) of Minnesota and Zeerip and Storley are likely to face each other as well. If the favorites make it to the semis and finals, there are a few different combinations of Perry, Lofthouse, and Storley we could see -- and if Illinois upsets Cornell in that regional, #11 Jordan Blanton could face one or more of those guys, too.
184: 10 of InterMat's top 20 are in action here, and there's a strong possibility of some very meaningful matchups taking place. Joe LeBlanc (#1) of Wyoming could face Josh Ihnen (#8) of Nebraska, while Ben Bennett (#4) of Central Michigan should take on Steve Bosak (#5) of Cornell, too. We could also see C.J. Magrum (#11) of Ohio State against either LeBlanc or Ihnen, too. And if Iowa advances to the finals, we could see Grant Gambrall against Kevin Steinhaus (#7) of Minnesota.
197: 11 of InterMat's top 20 are participating in National Duals, but most of those guys are from the bottom half of the rankings. The best possible matches this weekend might be Sonny Yohn (#6) of Minnesota vs. Brent Haynes (#7) of Missouri and Blake Rosholt (#8) of Okie State vs. Alfonso Hernandez (#9) of Wyoming. If Minnesota and Cornell advance to next weekend, we could see Yohn vs. Cam Simaz (#1) of Cornell.
HWT: 10 of InterMat's top 20 heavyweights are at National Duals, but the way they're distributed across the regions may make it difficult to see too many h2h showdowns. The best matchups this weekend might be Alan Gelogaev (#2) of Okie State vs. Tucker Lane (#9) of Nebraska and Tony Nelson (#4) of Minnesota vs. Ben Apland (#10) of Michigan. Bobby Telford or Blake Rasing could see Clayton Jack (#5) of Oregon State and Matt Gibson (#12) of Iowa State. Next weekend could be more interesting, though, with a potential Nelson-Gelogaev match looming.
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I'm not going to bother previewing Iowa-UNI for a few reasons. One, I don't think UNI will beat Virginia Tech in their first-round matchup. Two, I see little reason to expect a result different than what we saw at the dual earlier this season when Iowa dominated them, 38-4. There would be two particularly intriguing matchups in an Iowa-UNI bout: Ramos vs. #11 Joe Colon (Colon wasn't healthy when Iowa and UNI wrestled in December) and Gambrall vs. #6 Ryan Loder (although it's highly unlikely we'd even get that match since Gambrall apparently isn't cleared to compete at 184 yet).
#5 Iowa (11-3) v. #23 Virginia Tech (7-4)
125: #1 Matt McDonough (JR, 23-1) v. UN Ty Mitch (RS FR, 10-3) or UN Erik Spjut (SO, 25-9)
This would be slightly more interesting if McD was facing Jarod Garnett (a potential All-America at 125 who's redshirting this year), although he did pin him in 4:02 at Midlands. McD also faced Spjut at Midlands and beat him 11-5. McD is wrestling much, much better now.
McD MAJ DEC Spjut/Mitch (Iowa, 4-0)
133: #4 Tony Ramos (SO, 22-2) v. #1 Devin Carter (SO, 27-1)
And here's the highlight match of the meet and possibly the entire weekend. Carter beat Ramos 6-4 in SV in the Midlands finals and his size and defense presents a formidable challenge for Tony. Has Tony figured out a way to beat him since December? Call me a homer, but I think he has.
Ramos DEC Carter (Iowa, 7-0)
141: #6 Montell Marion (SR, 20-2) v. #19 Zach Neibert (SO, 16-7)
As always, the question becomes: do we get good Montell or bad Montell? Let's hope for the former. For all our hand-wringing, Marion still has just two losses, each to a very solid opponent (Maple and Stieber).
Marion DEC Neibert (Iowa, 10-0)
149: UN Michael Kelly (RS FR, 13-8) v. UN Nick Brascetta (FR, 4-2)
Kelly has generally looked pretty good of late, even if that hasn't always translated into wins. Hard to pick him without seeing him actually win a few more matches, though.
Brascetta DEC Kelly (Iowa, 10-3)
157: #5 Derek St. John (SO, 12-1) v. UN Cameron Hurd (JR, 11-10) or Matt Stephens (FR, 4-7)
DSJ's return last weekend (and the fact that he didn't aggravate his knee injury) suggests that he'll be handed the baton here as well. But DSJ or Moore, it shouldn't matter here -- either guy should be able to beat Hurd or Stephens. This, of course, should have been our long-awaited match with an Iowa wrestler facing JESSE DONG, but alas the Donger was injured earlier in the season and is taking a redshirt. Perhaps next year...
DSJ DEC Hurd/Stephens (Iowa, 13-3)
165: #8 Mike Evans (RS FR, 20-4) v. #7 Peter Yates (JR, 18-4)
The second-best match of the dual and another big-time test for Evans. He's been wrestling great of late, pinning a pair of ranked wrestlers in back-to-back matches, but Yates is a formidable threat in his own right. He's the sort of guy Evans needs to beat if he wants to be an All-America. I believe in the power of the 'stache.
Evans DEC Yates (Iowa, 16-3)
174: #9 Ethen Lofthouse (SO, 16-6) v. UN Chris Moon (SO, 15-11)
Lofthouse has been up and down this year, but he's generally been fine against overmatched opponents, so he shouldn't have too much difficulty here.
Lofthouse DEC Moon (Iowa, 19-3)
184: UN Vinnie Wagner (SR, 7-8) v. UN John Dickson (JR, 14-15)
Wagner should have one last hurrah this weekend (it sounds like Gambrall will be cleared to wrestle at this weight next weekend), and he should have a great shot at getting a win here.
Wagner DEC Dickson (Iowa, 22-3)
197: UN Tomas Lira (SO, 11-8) or UN Grant Gambrall (JR, 7-7) v. UN Nick Vetterlein (SO, 22-8) or Angelo Malvestuto (RS FR, 19-9)
Do I have any faith in Iowa winning a match at 197 right now? No, I do not.
Vetterlein/Malvestuto DEC Lira/Gambrall (Iowa, 22-6)
HWT: #14 Bobby Telford (RS FR, 19-4) or UN Blake Rasing (SR, 13-6) v. UN Chris Penny (JR, 11-5)
Telford and Rasing have had their ups and downs and heavyweight bouts are often difficult to call, but this should be an Iowa win.
Telford/Rasing DEC Penny (Iowa, 25-6)
This is an awkward-looking matchup for Iowa, mainly because two of Iowa's top wrestlers (Ramos and Evans) aren't heavily favored. This might be a dual where the rest of the team has to pick up the slack. There are also several fairly close matchups here, so it wouldn't shock me if the final result was closer than my prediction of 25-6.
#5 Iowa (11-3) v. UN Iowa State (2-12)
125: #1 Matt McDonough (JR, 23-1) v. #12 Ryak Finch (RS FR, 12-6)
McD beat Finch 6-0 at the dual in December. Finch is a solid wrestler a fringe All-America candidate, but McD has also been wrestling much better of late; I think he gets bonus points here.
McD MAJ DEC Finch (Iowa, 4-0)
133: #4 Tony Ramos (SO, 22-2) v. UN Shayden Terukina (FR, 4-6) or UN RJ Hallman (RS FR, 6-13)
Ramos pinned the Flyin' Hawaiian (Terukina) in 4:32 in their meeting earlier this year and I see little reason to expect anything other than another dominant Ramos win here if Terukina again gets the nod. Hallman hasn't been any better, either. Ramos may not get the pin here, but he should get bonus points easily.
Ramos FALL Terukina/Hallman (Iowa, 10-0)
141: #6 Montell Marion (SR, 20-2) v. #17 Luke Goettl (RS FR, 10-9)
Marion majored Goettl earlier this year, 17-5. Goettl's claim to fame this year is handing former-#1 Kendric Maple his lone loss of the season, but taken in the context of Goettl's entire season, that result seems more like a fluke than a harbinger of things to come. Goettl isn't a bad wrestler and if "bad Montell" shows up here, Goettl could absolutely win. But I think Marion takes care of business.
Marion DEC Goettl (Iowa, 13-0)
149: UN Michael Kelly (RS FR, 13-8) v. UN Joe Cozart (RS FR, 1-10)
Virtually everyone has been beating Cozart this year. Kelly's lack of wins at 149 makes it tough to pick him... but he really ought to be able to beat Cozart.
Kelly DEC Cozart (Iowa, 16-0)
157: #5 Derek St. John (SO, 12-1) v. UN Michael Moreno (RS FR, 8-12)
DSJ pinned Moreno in 4:38 in their earlier meeting this season. Moreno has a lousy record and has lost several matches this season, but he's also been a tough out lately, losing several close decisions. This will probably be a closer match than we'd care to see, but ultimately DSJ's superior skill should give him the edge.
DSJ DEC Moreno (Iowa, 19-0)
165: #8 Mike Evans (RS FR, 20-4) v. #4 Andrew Sorenson (SR, 23-2)
Sorenson narrowly beat Evans by decision earlier this season, 4-3. Since then, of course, Evans has improved considerably, highlighted by two straight pins over ranked wrestlers (including one, Wisconsin's Ben Jordan, who handed Sorenson one of his only losses on the season) heading into this event. But Sorenson is no slouch and Evans will need to wrestle his very best to win here. I think he can do it, but for now I'll stick with the guy who won the original match.
Sorenson DEC Evans (Iowa, 19-3)
174: #9 Ethen Lofthouse (SO, 16-6) v.#5 Chris Spangler (JR, 7-2)
Spangler beat Lofthouse, 8-6, in their earlier encounter. Spangler missed a good portion of the season with an injury, but is apparently cleared to compete now. Lofthouse has had a very up and down season, but very few of the ups have happened away from the friendly confines of CHA. He can certainly beat Spangler, especially if Spangler is rusty after his injury lay-off, but here again I'll stick with the guy who won the first encounter.
Spangler DEC Lofthouse (Iowa, 19-6)
184: UN Vinnie Wagner (SR, 7-8) v. #15 Boaz Beard (SO, 7-4)
Beard beat Wagner, 10-9, in a very narrow decision most remembered for some clock chicanery at the end of the match. Wagner's gotten an A for effort in virtually all of his matches this season, but unfortunately he's struggled to convert that effort into actual wins. He came achingly close to beating Beard last time (or at least sending the match to SV), but again I'll stick with my approach of picking the guy who won the first meeting.
Beard DEC Wagner (Iowa, 19-9)
197: UN Tomas Lira (SO, 11-8) or UN Grant Gambrall (JR, 7-7) v. UN Jerome Ward (SR, 0-0)
Ward has missed basically the entire season with an injury, but the word is that he's now healthy and cleared to compete. It's not clear yet if Iowa will send out Lira here or an undersized Gambrall, but really this outcome depends on Ward's health, not who Iowa sends out. If Ward is still banged up, Iowa has a chance at the upset. On the other hand, if he's healthy, he should win easily.
Ward DEC Lira/Gambrall (Iowa, 19-12)
HWT: #14 Bobby Telford (RS FR, 19-4) or UN Blake Rasing (SR, 13-6) v.#12 Matt Gibson (JR, 18-7)
Telford beat Gibson rather convincingly in December, 9-3. Since then, of course, the wheels have kind of come off for Bobby and he struggled through a disappointing January, losing several matches before ultimately getting benched. Gibson has looked strong of late, with several convincing decision wins and even a string of major decisions in his recent results, so Telford or Rasing will need to be very sharp to win here. Again, though, I'll stick with the original winner.
Telford/Rasing DEC (Iowa, 22-12)
Iowa has a big advantage in the lower weights against Iowa State and they would do well to exploit that as much as possible and get as many bonus points as they can from those matches, because everything after 149 is pretty uncertain. There are several toss-up matches in that stretch and while they probably won't all go Iowa State's way... they could. Let's not forget that several toss-up matches went Ohio State's way in their dual with Iowa, which is how they managed to pull off the upset. Iowa should beat Iowa State if they meet again... but it's by no means a lock.
#5 Iowa (11-3) v. #18 Oregon State (9-2)
125: #1 Matt McDonough (JR, 23-1) v. UN Pat Rollins (RS FR, 22-11)
Rollins is unranked for a reason and his 12 losses on the season includes several lopsided beatdowns from highly ranked 125ers (Alan Waters, Nico Megaludis, Trent Sprenkle). Not much reason to expect different from the best 125er in the country.
McD MAJ DEC Rollins (Iowa, 4-0)
133: #4 Tony Ramos (SO, 22-2) v. UN Garrett Drucker (SR, 18-6) or UN James Roberts (RS FR, 13-8)
Drucker is a solid 1333er, but Tony's only lost to Carter and Stieber this year, two of the top five guys at this weight. He shouldn't have too much difficulty with Drucker (or Roberts, for that matter).
Ramos MAJ DEC Drucker/Roberts (Iowa, 8-0)
141: #6 Montell Marion (SR, 20-2) v. #4 Mike Mangrum (JR, 30-2)
Here's where things get interesting. Mangrum has a gaudy record and his only two losses are to an elite 141er, Boris Novachkov, but he also hasn't faced that many elite 141ers -- he hasn't wrestled Marion, Maple, Stieber, or Kendric Maple yet this year. This should be a very close match and I'll lean Mangrum just slightly.
Mangrum DEC Marion (Iowa, 8-3)
149: UN Michael Kelly (RS FR, 13-8) v.#16 Scott Sakaguchi (SO, 29-5)
Sakaguchi is very solid. Kelly is very scrappy. Sorry, Mike.
Sakaguchi DEC Kelly (Iowa, 8-6)
157: #5 Derek St. John (SO, 12-1) v. #18 RJ Pena(SO, 23-7)
As usual with these DSJ predictions, it really comes down to his health. If he's in shape and sharp, he should win this match fairly easily. If he's not, this could be a dogfight. I'll still side with DSJ by a hair.
DSJ DEC Pena (Iowa, 11-6)
165: #8 Mike Evans (RS FR, 20-4) v. UN Joe Latham (RS FR, 1-9)
Poor, poor Latham. I wouldn't expect The 'Stache to have any mercy if he gets a chance to take on Latham.
Evans FALL Latham (Iowa, 17-6)
174: #9 Ethen Lofthouse (SO, 16-6) v. UN Cody Weishoff (JR, 13-13)
This appears to be the rare dual where Iowa has an advantage in the upper weights. Lofthouse has generally done very well against lower-ranked opponents, so I expect him to do well here.
Lofthouse MAJ DEC Weishoff (Iowa, 21-6)
184: UN Vinnie Wagner (SR, 7-8) v. UN Ty Vinson (JR, 17-13)
A bit of a toss-up match, but I like Wagner to edge this one.
Wagner DEC Vinson (Iowa, 24-6)
197: UN Tomas Lira (SO, 11-8) or UN Grant Gambrall (JR, 7-7) v. #17 Taylor Meeks (RS FR, 17-6)
See earlier comments re: Iowa at 197. It's just a bad scene there, man.
Meeks DEC Lira/Gambrall (Iowa, 24-9)
HWT: #14 Bobby Telford (RS FR, 19-4) or UN Blake Rasing (SR, 13-6) v.#5 Clayton Jack (SR, 30-1)
Jack's lone loss this year was to Minnesota's Tony Nelson. I haven't seen anything from Telford or Rasing lately that suggests they can pull the upset here.
Jack DEC Telford/Rasing (Iowa, 24-12)
This meet looks fairly straightforward. Oregon State will be favored at HWT, 197, and 149. 141 and 184 look like toss-ups. And Iowa should be favored in every other match, often heavily. They should have a much greater ability to get bonus points as well. Should we face Oregon State in the finals, it looks like we might finally be able to get that OSU monkey off our back this year.
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Tickets?
Will it be difficult to walk up tomorrow at 10 am when the doors open and grab a ticket? Even wondered if there’d be some poor soul out front trying to get rid of reserved seats for cheap..
You should be able to get tickets without too much difficulty.
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The question you need to ask is
Would it be worth it to drive to Hilton only to find out there’s no more tickets left? You can buy them online for $30 a ticket after fees.
I dunno.
Are they using the giant curtain, or not?
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by WaterlooChazz on Feb 11, 2012 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
i think the experiance Kelly, Wagner, and Telford have against tough guys
will show in this tournament. i think all 3 will suprise us
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 11, 2012 7:09 PM CST reply actions
Minnesota beat Missouri, 26-7, in the finals of their regional today.
So they’re the first team into the semis.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Oh, Des Moines Register.
The current front page headline on their website reads “Girl advances to state wrestling tournament”
I know that it’s still unusual (and potentially controversial) for girls to wrestle, but that headline seems weird.
Noticed she had transferred to Eddyville this year...
Recruited? Or good reason?
by kodypuckett23 on Feb 11, 2012 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
if i had a completly unproven guess based on nothing at all
it would be that her old team wouldnt let her wrestle or start or something of that nature
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 11, 2012 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
thats a joke
everyone just forfeits so she gets easy wins without even wrestling
Question for the wrestling experts:
What are the chances that Jackson gets fired at ISU? This year? Next year?
I realize ISU is probably young, and Jackson might be building something. But I had to look twice when I saw that they were only 2-12 in duals. I realize they have a tough schedule, but this is not the ISU of the past.
Of course, perhaps they could be more competitive in St. Louis than I’d expect.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
Highly unlikely he'll get fired this year.
They’ve had a ton of injuries and are still kind of digging out from Cael’s departure. They have a really solid recruiting class coming in, so I suspect he’ll get at least next year to prove himself.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
As bad as Iowa's injury problems have been
ISUs have somehow been worse. and with the class and recruits they are getting, if they fire him this year it would be a very unfair move.
maybe next year though if he doesnt improve. though i suppose if a big time coach were to leave and offer ISU their services (such asTerry Brands? lol, in a cyclone fans wet dream maybe), they may fire him then.
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 12, 2012 12:04 AM CST up reply actions
He won't be
Lots of other reasons the program is hurting.
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 2:10 AM CST up reply actions
Very good preview
and thorough.
/Lebowski’d
For me
the next two weekends are about proving we are real-game at our strong weights, and making statements at some of our weaker weights. 125-133-141-157 all have chances to show that they are one of if not the best guy going into March. 165-174-HWT are places we are game but some big wins could really elevate a team title chance come march. 149-184-197 are at the point where not good showing here means we are in big trouble at these spots. Grant has to prove himself big-time in my book. Next weekend when he wrestles at 184 we better be seeing some BP wins.
Its go time, do or die, gotta go.
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 2:15 AM CST reply actions
As someone who doesn't pay much attention to wrestling, I must ask
What the hell happened to Wisconsin? I thought they were pretty competitive as recently as a year or 2 ago & Davis is a pretty good coach? Just seems crazy they could be so far down.
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by Brock8144 on Feb 12, 2012 11:13 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Injuries, transfers, graduations, Olympic redshirts...
A whole lot of shit hit them and left them with a VERY depleted team. It seems like it was probably more of a one-year aberration, though, and they should be pretty competitive again going forward.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I may have erred in ruling out UNI so quickly.
They’re up 3-0 after 125 and Devin Carter (ranked #1 at 133) is down 11-1…
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Joe Colon from UNI
majored Devin Carter of Va. Tech, 13-3.
I’m here all day so I’ll try to be consistent with updates.
by McNutterButter on Feb 12, 2012 11:40 AM CST reply actions
Colon
took him straight to his back twice.
by McNutterButter on Feb 12, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
Joe must not have liked the "Colon Blows" jokes that Carter was using in warmups
Quite the upset there.
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by therealCatnuts on Feb 12, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
Whoo.
That’s intense.
(I just joined in the thread and am now re-reading through the comments – please forgive my late replies)
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by EnergizerHawk on Feb 12, 2012 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
much appreciated
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by therealCatnuts on Feb 12, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
looks like someone was looking ahead
i dont think the relatively easy schedule after midlands helped either.
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 12, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
Well Colon has really been on a roll lately too.
He’s 21-2 this season. He was a JUCO National Champ. He’s a tough kid. As for Carter, I was surprised how sluggish he looked. Maybe looking ahead, maybe cutting a lot of weight. He is pretty physical for a 133-pounder. And for pronunciation’s sake its like “cologne.”
by McNutterButter on Feb 12, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
I'm surprised at the size of the Iowa contingent thus far.
Lots of Cyclones here, obviously. Decent crowd for UNI. Hardly any Wisco or Oregon Staters running around. I imagine the Iowa crowd will turn up rougly around 1…
by McNutterButter on Feb 12, 2012 11:44 AM CST reply actions
ISU leads 26-0 after 165.
UNI is up 10-7 after 157.
by McNutterButter on Feb 12, 2012 11:47 AM CST reply actions
Wisconsin
lost a few guys to Olympic redshirts and graduated some tough kids from last year’s team. Plus they lost their top two assistant coaches and, thus, some pretty good recruits.
by McNutterButter on Feb 12, 2012 11:48 AM CST reply actions
Iowa State has Spangler back at 174
and Jerome Ward back at 197.
I really wouldn’t be surprised to see them beat Oregon State in the next round.
by McNutterButter on Feb 12, 2012 11:50 AM CST reply actions
1st round results
IOWA STATE 36, WISCONSIN 3
125 – Ryak Finch (ISU) pinned Austin Hietpas, 1:26.
133 – Shayden Terukina (ISU) dec. Shane McQuade, 8-5.
141 – Luke Goettl (ISU) dec. Thomas Glenn, 10-0.
149 – Joe Cozart (ISU) pinned Frank Baer, 4:21.
157 – Michael Moreno (ISU) dec. Shawn Perry, 13-2.
165 – Andrew Sorenson (ISU) dec. Ben Jordan, 3-2.
174 – Chris Spangler (ISU) dec. Frank Cousins, 8-0.
184 – Boaz Beard (ISU) dec. Timmy McCall, 7-2.
197 – Jackson Hein (Wis) dec. Trevor Voelker, 10-6.
285 – Matt Gibson (ISU) dec. Cole Tobin, 5-2.
VIRGINIA TECH 20, NORTHERN IOWA 17
125 – Cruse Aarhus (UNI) dec. Ty Mitch, 7-4.
133 – Joe Colon (UNI) dec. Devin Carter, 13-3.
141 – Zach Neibert (VT) dec. Levi Wolfensperger, 10-2.
149 – Nick Brascetta (VT) dec. Ryan Jauch, 3-0.
157 – David Bonin (UNI) dec. Cameron Hurd, 10-4.
165 – Pete Yates (VT) dec. Riley Banach, 12-5.
174 – Chris Moon (VT) pinned Onni Prestidge, 0:56.
184 – Ryan Loder (UNI) dec. John Dickson, 8-0.
197 – Nick Vetterlein (VT) dec. Taylor Kettman, 13-5.
285 – Blayne Beale (UNI) dec. Chris Penny, 8-3.
by McNutterButter on Feb 12, 2012 12:27 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
VT got in by the skin of their teeth huh
good thing that Moon kid pinned the UNI guy
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 12, 2012 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
Whoaaaaa anyone if a stream does hapen to be on the netz?
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 12:53 PM CST reply actions
does anyone know if a stream happens to be on the netz****sorry i need that coffee
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
Theopenmat.com
http://news.theopenmat.com/2012/02/tom-live-nwca-mat-mayhem-iowa-state-regional/
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 12, 2012 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm covering the event
I will try to keep everyone here updated. sitting right next to the Iowa radio guys. Luckily Ironside is out of arm reach. I don’t want to get taken down up here.
by McNutterButter on Feb 12, 2012 12:59 PM CST reply actions
TD McD
He’s up 2-0 with 30 seconds left.
McD leads 2-0 after 1.
He’s got riding time locked up now in the 2nd.
McD leads 6-2 after 2
He has 1:24 of riding time.
Reversal McD, 8-2
Escape VT, 8-3.
TD McD, 10-3.
Escape VT, 10-4.
TD McD, 12-4.
All in about 30 seconds.
McD wins 16-5
Iowa up 4-0.
Ramos vs Carter up now.
lol at the open mat announcers
“I hate a ref with no balls”
You won't never regret this, mister editing man.
by KilometersDavis on Feb 12, 2012 1:20 PM CST reply actions
Montell is up 6-2 with RT end of 2.
How convenient that the VT kid got hurt just as Montell was turning him over.
There’s another TD for Montell, he’s up 8-2.
And he won 13-2.
That’s a whoopin’. He must’ve turned him at some point.
by The Mexican't on Feb 12, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
Montell wins 13-2
Iowa is up 11-0 after 141.
BTW, how that kid was rated ahead of Montell is absolute BS. Montell took him apart.
He wasn't.
He was 19 and Montell was 7, I think
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
nom nom nom anyone know where you can pick up ironside on the radio on the internet maybe?
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 1:30 PM CST reply actions
i did find the open mat radio stream
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
All Access.
Any other stream is not legal.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Kelly tied 1-1 with 1:27 of RT
He’s locked in RT with :26 remaining. Needs to avoid a TD to get the decision.
NO DSJ
saddd
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 1:37 PM CST reply actions
Kelly wins 2-1
Iowa is up 14-0 after 149.
Nick Moore is gonna go at 157.
DSJ was dressed and ready
Perhaps they’ll use him in the finals.
5-1 More going into 3rd
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 1:44 PM CST reply actions
Warning Moore, but Moore wins 5-2
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
Evans vs Yates
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 1:47 PM CST reply actions
Moore wins 5-2
Iowa is up 17-0 after 157.
Here we go with Mike Evans.
They are talking about Evans at 189 in High School.
Evans was a fat boy in high school haha. If you go find videos of him he looks like he has the make up and shape of a HWT.
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 1:48 PM CST reply actions
222222222222
"Florida! You don't go to Florida in the winter, you go in the summer!" -Tom Brands
by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 1:48 PM CST reply actions
Shoutout to Mike Evans' mustache from the live stream.
Puts both Borschel’s and Dennis’s mustaches to shame they say.
Heard Evans just split Yates down the center.
"Florida! You don't go to Florida in the winter, you go in the summer!" -Tom Brands
by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 1:51 PM CST reply actions
Apparently pinning combinations count as injuries now.
Mike Evans had a COMPLETELY LEGAL spladle locked up and the VT wrestler was “hurt.” Now it appears he’s fine.
just googled the spladle
Holy crap, does that look impressive.
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 12, 2012 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
Illegal hold on VT
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 1:52 PM CST reply actions
Seems Evans really upset his opponent, has now been awarded two points for illegal holds.
One for an elbow and another for being the victim of a figure-four around the head.
you have to have a 'stache for it
only way it works
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 12, 2012 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
Wait, what?
Did he get stuck on the bottom for a while there?
Twitterz: @EnergizerHawk
by EnergizerHawk on Feb 12, 2012 4:54 PM CST up reply actions
Big win for Evans Big Big Win
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 1:58 PM CST reply actions
Mormon talk
on openmat
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 2:00 PM CST reply actions
Yeah, that was odd.
They don’t sound like big fans of Cael, either.
by The Mexican't on Feb 12, 2012 2:00 PM CST up reply actions
NutterButter
do you see Grant dressed?
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 2:03 PM CST reply actions
ethan with a major also good
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 2:07 PM CST reply actions
So Vinnie at 184
assuming Grant is not going to wrestle up a class….
We have not had a line up all year it sorta depressing
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 2:12 PM CST reply actions
openmat commentators now bored enough that they're discussing popcorn at the arena.
Iowa winning 28-0, but Lira is trailing in his match.
Iowa & Oregon State will wrestle in the finals.
apparently they don't have soft serve
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 12, 2012 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
I hate to say it
but the Clone Cones are amazing
You won't never regret this, mister editing man.
by KilometersDavis on Feb 12, 2012 2:32 PM CST up reply actions
I feel ashamed to say, it but I cannot lie.
I hate everything else about ISU, I swear!
You won't never regret this, mister editing man.
by KilometersDavis on Feb 12, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
I haven't had them for years, but I still remember them.
They were really tasty. But pretty much everything about Hilton > Carver, sadly.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Hey there, people.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
welcome
just wake up?
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 12, 2012 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
I was on the phone, sadly.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Per Luke Eustice...
Gambrall weighed in at 184.1 and will wrestle 197 today.
He should be able to wrestle at 184 next week, though
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Good chance, I'd think.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Interesting...
I thought that might happen. McD could get his rematch with Delgado in the next round.
Surprised that regional is already done. I wonder how the other one is going.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Got to watch the livefeed stream against VT
We looked good overall. Evans has got to find some more offense, and Marion still lacks that “kill instinct” here and there in my opnion. Moore looked real good taking into consideration who his opponent was, I wouldn’t be too distraught if he got the nod over DSJ against OSU. Love Jim Zalesky, but Brands trumps him anyday. I’d expect to see Gambrall at 197 too for the final time today as well. Lira really needs to figure out what he wants to do with his offense. Should be a good dual, but I’d take us by 10-15pts.
SCORE UPDATE
125: McD MAJ DEC (16-5) Spjut (Iowa 4-0)
133: Ramos DEC (3-2) Carter (Iowa 7-0)
141: Marion MAJ DEC (13-2) Neibert (Iowa 11-0)
149: Kelly DEC (2-1) Brascetta (Iowa 14-0)
157: Moore DEC (5-2) Stevens (Iowa 17-0)
165: Evans MAJ DEC (9-0) Yates (Iowa 21-0)
174: Lofthouse MAJ DEC (12-3) Moon (Iowa 25-0)
184: Wagner DEC (9-2) Dickson (Iowa 28-0)
197: Vetterlein (?) DEC (11-7) Lira (Iowa 28-3)
HWT: Telford DEC (4-2) Penny (Iowa 31-3)
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Looks like we had a decent showing.
Twitterz: @EnergizerHawk
by EnergizerHawk on Feb 12, 2012 4:56 PM CST up reply actions
Ad for Olympic Trials in Iowa City in April.
I still can’t believe KURT ANGLE is apparently going to be there.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Thought there was drug testing for the Olympics.
Wonder if he bought “The Whizzanator” from that former Vikings RB (Griffin, Griffith?)
"HOW'S IT HANGIN, SLAPNUTS!"
IT'S TRUE, IT'S TRUE!
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
BTW
There is a free video stream at livevideosports.com
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Feb 12, 2012 2:59 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
that's what I've been watching
just have to create a free account and you’re in. good non-delayed stream too.
Is it free?
I saw that it required a login, and didn’t go any further.
by The Mexican't on Feb 12, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
I am getting a weird message
that it is a parked domain or something. I have no idea what that means.
Life is hard. It's really hard if you're stupid.
McD taken down, gets reversal
tied 2-2
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Oregon St has a Pac 12 logo on the back of their singlets
Interesting
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
5-2 McD after 2nd
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
McD is working more chicken wings in this match than Bob Backlund
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
McD had about a million minutes of RT
wins 7-2
Just couldn’t turn that kid
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
125: McD DEC (7-2) Rollins
Iowa up 3-0
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
OSU bro has a mega knee brace on
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
For those heading that way, Iowa is wrestling on mat 2.
Wisconsin & UNI on camera 1.
by The Mexican't on Feb 12, 2012 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, forgot to mention that
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Ramos up 4-1 after 1st
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
10-4 Ramos after 2nd
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Nevermind, that quick TD confirms it.
Ramos putting on a clinic, now up 14-6 after two TD/cuts in the opening 25 seconds of the third period.
by The Mexican't on Feb 12, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, unlike BTN they show match score AND meet score
Revolutionary!
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
But, why would anyone want to know both?
That’d be like wanting to know team score AND down and distance at the same time. Is that even legal?
133: Ramos TECH FALL (24-8, 7:00) Drucker
Iowa up 8-0
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
nice work Tony
doing exactly what we need.
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 12, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
Iowa probably brought her along.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Ramos just worked a clinic there.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Thanks!
I love the non-delay so I can listen to Grace and Ironside, too.
Life is hard. It's really hard if you're stupid.
Yeah, agreed.
There’s a very slight delay for me, but not as bad as the BTN one.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Montell with a front headlock and sliding backwards on his knees.
Stalemate. Still no score after a minute.
Damn video skipped, Marion taken down at the edge of the mat.
Gets to his feet quickly on the reset but is slammed back down. Finally gets the escape. 2-1
wild scramble
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
What happened there?
I saw Marion get in deep and then the video hiccuped.
by The Mexican't on Feb 12, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
Just a crazy scramble from both guys
They were each close to finishing, but never quite could.
Story of that match, actually. Really entertaining match.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Marion having a hell of a time with the rolls.
Twice he’s lost control of the back after a roll thru.
damn, that was close
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Doesn't matter.
Marion finishes the shot that counts. Iowa now leading 11-0
by The Mexican't on Feb 12, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
NICE!
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
That was "good Montell" for sure.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
me likey good Montell
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 12, 2012 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
Yep, he's a lot more fun to watch
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
141: Marion DEC (6-4 SV) Mangrum
Iowa up 11-0
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Big win for Montell
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
hopefully that can get rid of bad Montell
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 12, 2012 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
Kelly has his hands full with Sakaguchi
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
There's a lot more team celebration in women's hoops.
I put the Iowa-MSU game on the TV. They’re beating Sparty, 45-42 right now.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Seriously?
Jeez, they have horrible luck.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
She must have played soccer in an earlier life.
by The Mexican't on Feb 12, 2012 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
MAGIC SPRAY!
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Or wrestled for Okie State......
Life is hard. It's really hard if you're stupid.
by Bluzmn on Feb 12, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Surprised they're still winning.
Unless MSU just sucks a whole bunch
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
2-1 Sakaguchi after 1st
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
4-3 Saka after 2nd
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Kelly just can't finish shots very well.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
149: Sakaguchi DEC (8-3) Kelly
Iowa up 11-3
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Welp, not a good start for DSJ
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yeah, that was rough.
At least it’s just 2-0.
by The Mexican't on Feb 12, 2012 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
If this is all DSJ has, should he even be out there?
Life is hard. It's really hard if you're stupid.
Not here.
If they wanted to see what he had, they should have sent him out in the last round. This is terrible.
by The Mexican't on Feb 12, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
This guy is making me think of THE SECRET LIFE OF RJ BURGER on MTV
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
DSJ looks pretty bad today
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
This guy isn't even hitting anything fancy on these takedowns
Just simple little low single leg takedowns.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
DSJ's only hope is a freak pin.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
165: Pena MAJ DEC (9-1) DSJ
Iowa up 11-7
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
woof.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Iowa ladies up 61-49
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
He made me look foolish
:-(
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I think its time to stick with Moore and call it a year for DSJ
hes just not ready
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 12, 2012 3:45 PM CST reply actions
Man, if the Iowa women had been completely healthy this year
they could have done some damage. Finally get some key people back and Printy gets hurt. It always seems like Bluder’s teams are a year away from being really really good.
You won't never regret this, mister editing man.
by KilometersDavis on Feb 12, 2012 3:46 PM CST reply actions
He looks better but he can't get anything going.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Evans needs better offense on his feet.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
The stace does add extra weight that I think they deduct off his total weight during the w/ins.
Although that extra weight does help, he hasn’t been use to having all that extra hair all season.
"Florida! You don't go to Florida in the winter, you go in the summer!" -Tom Brands
by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 3:49 PM CST reply actions
A win here for the ladies (And they will win)
Makes it five straight! When was the last time the men won 5 straight? I HAZ A SAD.
February 16-29, 2012
You won't never regret this, mister editing man.
by KilometersDavis on Feb 12, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
First 5 games of the 2008-2009 season
started with charelston southern and ended with southeast mizz state….
"Florida! You don't go to Florida in the winter, you go in the summer!" -Tom Brands
by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
whew how could we forget that gauntlet
You won't never regret this, mister editing man.
by KilometersDavis on Feb 12, 2012 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
You don't fuck with Charleston Southern
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Feb 12, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Evans just did not look sharp at all in that match for some reason.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I wasn't sure if it was low energy or just a lack of neutral offense.
by The Mexican't on Feb 12, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
He doesn't have a lot of offense on his feet but he still looked way more lethargic than normal there
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
165: Evans DEC (4-0) Latham
Iowa up 14-3
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Disappointing not to get bonus points on that kid.
Evans looked really lethargic.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Nice work, EL
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
A kid who is wrestling at .300 in the Pac 10.
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
He's figured out how to destroy bad opponents
Which is good
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Per the twitters, he won his matches by a combined score of 33-8 today.
by The Mexican't on Feb 12, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
Yep
Grace said he’s scored 50 points combined in his last 3 matches.
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*cough*
That’s… impressive.
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by EnergizerHawk on Feb 12, 2012 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
Bluder has been there 12 years?
damn
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this poor bastard from OSU
Looks like he just wants this to be over as soon as possible
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by hawkeyeinstl on Feb 12, 2012 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
K openmat is talking about what their daughter sees in guys
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 4:01 PM CST reply actions
197: Lofthouse TECH FALL (21-6, 7:00) Weishoff
Iowa up 19-7
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Atta boy, Ethen Lofthouse
Good work there.
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Ironside doesn't like the OSU guy's name
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Wagner going for it
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 4:10 PM CST reply actions
GO GO GO GO 22222222222222222222
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 4:10 PM CST reply actions
Nice job, Vinnie
That win should lock things up for us
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So the finals will be Iowa, Minny, Illinois, and ?
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by KilometersDavis on Feb 12, 2012 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
the question mark will almost certainly be OK State
which means we will almost certainly be facing Minny in the first round
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 12, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
Rematches with Minny and OSU then, most likely.
Would be nice to get some redemption in the finals.
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by KilometersDavis on Feb 12, 2012 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
184: Wagner DEC (7-6) Vinson
Iowa up 22-7
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Lira going after all
No GG today, BB
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Saw on another site that GG weighed in today at 184.1 per Eustice
Life is hard. It's really hard if you're stupid.
Andy Hamilton's
take on it was he still was not allowed to wrestle even if he weighted in at 184 today. Don’t really understand, but Hamilton knows all?
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 4:14 PM CST up reply actions
I think....
it has to do with % of your weight that you can lose per week. I have been reading for a couple of weeks that he would not be wrestling at 184 until next week.
Life is hard. It's really hard if you're stupid.
I could be wrong
but I thought I read at one point that there is an NCAA limit on how quickly someone can cut, for safety reasons. So even if he did cut to 184 successfully, he has to wait so many days before he could wrestle at that weight.
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by KilometersDavis on Feb 12, 2012 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
I think this is the case.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
UNI beats Wisco, 30-15, in the exhibition match
Good job, Panthers
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3-2 Meeks after 1st
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Any chance
Vinnie can put on weight to wrestle at 197 for Big Tens?
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 4:15 PM CST reply actions
maybe
but would he really be more effective, he isnt an especially great 184 pounder and he would be giving up alot of weight.
i say let Lira go for it and see what happens, maybe he will qualify? never know
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 12, 2012 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
lira wrestled at 184 his whole carrer so far
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, but he has had all year to get used to it
i dont think either guy would qualify, but if the staff thinks Wagner can do it then they should go for it
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 12, 2012 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
Probably not good weight.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
We really don't have much to offer at 197
sigh
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But worse than Lira
doubtful…..
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
also at least Vinnie wrestles hard even when he is getting rolled
a lot of Vinnies matches against quality opponents look more one sided than they really are….he goes hard and is “reckless” at times when he is just trying to scramble for any points.. I like it..If they are both going to get man-handled at 197 then I would rather see it be someone who at least is going to at least wrestle hard
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
197: Meeks MAJ DEC (14-3) Lira
Iowa up 22-11
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I wish Uncle Luke still had eligibility
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Jack has some floppy hair.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Clayton Jack is my favorite wrestling name
makes me think of the land down under
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 12, 2012 4:25 PM CST reply actions
Ah, the thrill-a-minute action of heavyweight wrestling
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Considering how many HWT matches are decided by one takedown, that's kind of what happens anyway...
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
HWT: Jack DEC (5-3) Telford
Iowa wins the meet, 22-14
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Grace said they'll announce the site of the finals and the times tomorrow.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
If they want good attendance, they should have it somewhere in Iowa.
Or maybe Minneapolis, which is close enough to Iowa.
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yeah, that’s pretty much what he said, according to KJ from the Gazette
"Here in the state of Iowa, the finals will be here," Robinson said after its dual with Iowa on Jan. 29, even though the finals site has yet to be announced. "The final four and what you need to do is you need to pack it. You need to have 15,000 people there. You need to make a half-a-million dollars and then the NCAA is going to want it and then you can bargain with the NCAA to get the things wrestling needs to grow.
by rupertj on Feb 12, 2012 4:33 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Awfully aggressive language there.
Shouldn’t J suggest that they slowly move the finals away from the center of the country and hope the NCAA eventually makes a mistake?
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by KilometersDavis on Feb 12, 2012 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
Which is why they will pick OK State
because nothing else they have done so far makes much sense
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 12, 2012 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
I'd love to hear what he said behind closed doors.
Robinson, whose Gophers are in a regional hosted by Rutgers, was critical of former Iowa State and current Penn State Cael Sanderson for not being involved…
I imagine it was something charming and in no way offensive or suggestive about body parts (or the lack thereof).
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by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Feb 12, 2012 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
At least some people are being consistent on this position when a team other than
Iowa chooses to sit out. I have noticed that Rob Koll has thrown his series of hissy fits this year that PSU isn’t in the National Duals.
It is like climbing a high mountain and finding nothing at the top except a restaurant where they sell ginger beer, surrounded by fog but equipped with wireless.
Eustice's blog has been hinting that the finals will be in Stillwater if Okie State wins.
Bleh.
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telford needs to spend the entire offseason getting as much muscle on him as he can
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 12, 2012 4:30 PM CST reply actions
BIGGER HARDER FASTER STRONGER
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In unrelated news, the Iowa women's team has a player named Bethany Doolittle.
lulz
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I would like to make a shout out.....
to whomever the guy was that rattled Zalesky that was sitting about 20 rows behind me. You getting called out by him and his assistant coaches were the highlight of my day!
what was said?
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Feb 12, 2012 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
all that was simply said was.....
ZALESKY GET OFF THE MAT!!!….and he went OFF!
Okie State's apparently up 16-6 with 3 matches left.
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by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Feb 12, 2012 8:13 PM CST reply actions
19-6, 2 matches left.
Thanks for playing, tOSU.
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by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Feb 12, 2012 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
So Iowa, Minny, Illinois, and OkSU.
It will be ridiculous if the finals aren’t held somewhere in the B1G footprint.
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by KilometersDavis on Feb 12, 2012 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
Which is exactly why they'll end up in Stillwater.
by The Mexican't on Feb 12, 2012 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
No shit, right?
Any other host site, and I’d throw my father-in-law in the car and hit the road next weekend.
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by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Feb 12, 2012 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
I'm sure they can fill the arena, but there's really no reason not to have the event in Iowa City or MSP
by The Mexican't on Feb 12, 2012 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
Iowa City, Des Moines, Rockford, IL, Champaign-Urbana, MSP, Mankato...
I don’t care. But Stillwater? What to eliminate at least half the people who would travel to watch the finals.
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by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Feb 12, 2012 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
It would've been even more hilarious had the Buckeyes completed the B1G sweep.
Robinson’s quote that was used earlier today is dead on. If wrestling wants the National Duals to be a big deal, they need to prove to the NCAA that it can draw. Putting the finals in the heart of B1G country does that and probably greatly improves the event.
Teams like Penn State, or last year’s Iowa squad should never miss this event. NCAA backing would probably ensure that it doesn’t continue to happen.
by The Mexican't on Feb 12, 2012 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, if this was an NCAA-sanctioned event, teams like PSU or Iowa would never miss it.
They need to tweak the format and make that happen. Hell, tweak the season. People have been proposing splitting the season in two — a “dual meet” season and a “tournament” season. Why not? I’d push the season a little bit later, too. Running the NCAA Tournament the first weekend of the NCAA hoops tournament is still a terrible decision, IMO.
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I think college wrestling is trying to force a square peg in a round hole
with the dual meet tournament. I just don’t think the sport is geared for people to care as much about a dual meet championship. Also, I think it would be a bit stupid to crown two champions of equivalent stature each year.
The Iowa High School tournament is still pushing the dual tourney. They moved the dual tournament right before the individual, so that kids competing in the individual tournament would be wrestling in the duals the two days immediately preceding the start of individual tournament. It isn’t a team sport (there are no international dual team tournaments of which I know).
It is like climbing a high mountain and finding nothing at the top except a restaurant where they sell ginger beer, surrounded by fog but equipped with wireless.
They can't -- and won't -- fill the arena. (And the final are in Stillwater.)
They apparently had about 2500 people at the semifinal tonight.
I imagine most Iowa and Minnesota fans would rather make the easier trip to St. Louis for the NCAA Tournament in a month than a trip to Stillwater next week. Hell, more of them will probably be in West Lafayette for the Big Ten Tournament in a few weeks.
Iowa City wasn’t an option next week because there’s something in CHA on Sunday (women’s basketball, maybe?), but Minneapolis and Cedar Falls apparently bid for the finals (though there was also some talk of CF withdrawing their bid). Either of those would have been better choices. Or Des Moines.
There’s a reason the NCAA Tournament has been held in Iowa, St. Louis, Omaha, etc. so often.
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More like STALLWATER, amirite?
But, yeah, that sounds like exactly the sort of thing that would happen.
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by KilometersDavis on Feb 12, 2012 8:25 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
But...but...
You can’t give up points if the other guy can’t touch you.
/backpedals
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by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Feb 12, 2012 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
Ah, sounds like you've got a future down south.
Any eligibility left?
/totally isn’t John Smith
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by KilometersDavis on Feb 12, 2012 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
"you've got a future down south"
Chikka chikka chow!
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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 13, 2012 1:02 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not sure which OSU I'd like to see Iowa get another shot at.
I guess the Pokes will have to do.
by The Mexican't on Feb 12, 2012 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
Byers gets a pin at 197, 25-6.
And the rout is on.
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by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Feb 12, 2012 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
Ok...
The scoreboard updated itself to give Byers a 3-1 decision and Gelogaev a 6-2 decision for a 25-6 Okie State win.
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by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Feb 12, 2012 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
Finals are in Stillwater next Sunday.
Semis at 2pm and finals at 6pm, supposedly.
It looks like one semi will be Okie State-Illinois and the other semi will be Minnesota-Iowa. So for Iowa to win the duals title, we’ll need to beat Minnesota again and (probably) beat Okie State.
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Stillwater? well thats a terrible decision
If it was up to me i would have picked Chicago. most wrestling fans wouldnt mind driving or flying there and its exactly the kind of place you go to get exposure, or hell if you want to get out of the upper midwest, why not go balls to the wall and go to Cali or Texas or Florida and promote wrestling in those state?
instead they picked Stillwater……..bleh.
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 13, 2012 12:29 AM CST up reply actions
I remain fascinated by how the seeding at 133 is going to shake out, too.
This weekend, Oliver and Ramos went 2-0, Stieber went 2-1 (lost to Oliver) and Carter went 0-2 (lost to Colon and Ramos).
My guess is they’ll be ranked: 1) Oliver, 2) Stieber, 3) Ramos, and 4) Carter after this weekend. If Ramos beats Oliver again next weekend, he could be #1 heading into Big Tens.
I still think it would be in Tony’s best interest if he only had to wrestle one of Oliver and Stieber and not both of them. For that to happen Tony probably needs to get the 1 seed at NCAAs. And to do that he needs to beat Oliver next week (no guarantee they’ll wrestle, since Iowa has to beat Minny to set up that match) and Stieber at Big Tens. Going to be tough.
I’m guessing the Big Ten seeds will be 1) Stieber, 2) Ramos, 3) Futrell, 4) Dardanes.
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He can definitely beat Stieber
just cannot get stuck underneath. Again, I do not take a lot from that listless performance they gave at OSU.
It is like climbing a high mountain and finding nothing at the top except a restaurant where they sell ginger beer, surrounded by fog but equipped with wireless.
How is Ramos going to get a shot at Oliver?
Are you expecting Okie State to lose in the semis too?
/HATEHATEHATE
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by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Feb 13, 2012 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
I expect Minnesota roll over and die like a good gopher.
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Snerk.
That’s cute. Before the 165 match J is going to lean in and gently remind Cody Yohn that he is not a prostitute and should therefore stay off his back.
Then he’ll tell Cody that if he gets pinned and costs us a win again he’s going to treat his mom like a prostitute.
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by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Feb 13, 2012 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
I don't want to guess at how J Robinson treats prostitutes, either...
/shudder
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Honestly, I have no idea how the meet will go this time.
There are so many close matchups with these two teams…
125: McD is clearly better than Sanders, but Sanders is very good and it wouldn’t be impossible for me to envision him beating McD (McD’s obvious physical advantages — mainly, his length — make it very hard on Sanders, though)
133: Very close; could go either way
141: Very close; could go either way
149: Advantage Minny and could be bonus points… but Kelly did hold his own for a while in their 1st match
157: Moore smoked Ortiz last time, but may not get that semi-lucky feet-to-back move for a bunch of nearfall moves
165: Advantage Iowa, but I wouldn’t guarantee another pin
174: EL did well for 2.5 periods last time, then fell apart… wrestling with more confidence now, maybe. Slight advantage Minny
184: Advantage Minny, but having Gambrall back should give Iowa a fighting chance. If nothing else, I’d be surprised to see bonus points for Minny here
197: Big edge Minny, but Yohn is such a putz I wouldn’t bank on bonus pts
HWT: Edge Minny, but it’s heavyweight, so who knows which lumbering ox will get the first takedown?
If every result was flipped from the first meet, I wouldn’t be shocked — except at 197. If Lira beats Yohn there, I will be dumbfounded.
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