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It's Not Plagiarism If You Link To It: Gary Barta Has Some Answers


Iowa's Athletic Director Gary Barta met with members of the media yesterday and took questions on the open coaching positions, Mika'il McCall and the Big Ten's playoff proposal.

Barta says next week is when interviews begin for Iowa's openings on the football coaching staff. The lone opening on the defensive side is linebacker coach and LeVar Woods is thought to be the leader in the clubhouse. An official announcement naming a new LB coach could come next week. The openings on the offensive side could take a little longer.

Per Barta,

"[Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz] decided his best option was to promote on the defensive coordinator [Phil Parker]," Barta said. "Now that's done, he [Ferentz] turns his attention to the two assistant coaches first, not the offensive coordinator. We have a process on campus, and football follows that process just like everyone else does."

About the length of time, Barta adds,

"Whether it's hiring a coach or an administrator, we have a process of approval we have to go through," Barta said. "We have to advertise the position a certain number of days and we work with the campus human resources and have done that throughout."

Marc Morehouse points out that the process is same whether Iowa hires from within or from outside the program.

Some other tidbits from Morehouse's piece:

  • Barta wants to fight for a post season tournament game for the men's hoops team
  • Barta wants to fight to retain the Big Ten's connection with the Rose Bowl
  • Barta is for the seven win minimum for bowl eligibility
  • Mika'il McCall wasn't suspended for his "strait bullshit" Facebook post
Barta wouldn't disclose why McCall was suspended but added,
"We do not kick off or suspend student-athletes in any sport for a Facebook posting or a Twitter," Barta said. "We have conversations with them about it."

Iowa added that the Athletic Department has "social media guidelines" and that student athlete activity is monitored. Barta concluded with,

"Since I've been here, we have not removed someone from the athletic department or from a team for something they said in social media."

Sally Mason says that Iowa isn't "hiding behind anything." Marcus Coker, like McCall, was suspended and decided to transfer from Iowa. Mason and Iowa officials will not release information about the investigation regarding Coker and cites the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA). Mason adds,

"One of the things we pride ourselves on is that students have a right to privacy,"

Mason also mentions this,

releasing student information protected by FERPA could result in the school losing all of its federal funding - about $400million.

Long story short, Mason doesn't want to get sued.

After the jump, hoops and more links.

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(H/T AustinTxHawk Hawkeye Report Off Topic)

Well, another craptacular performance on the road for the Iowa Men's basketball team is in the books. Northwestern couldn't miss from beyond the arc, same story, different day. The final was Northwester 83, Iowa 64. Aaron White turned in his second double-double of his career finishing with 17 points and 12 rebounds.

The Hawkeye ladie's hoops team got it done for their fourth win in a row. Iowa defeated Minnesota 75-58 in Carver last night. Morgan Johnson poured in 23 points and joined Iowa's 1,000 career points club.

Iowa announced an increase in football ticket prices for 2012. The increase to general public season ticket prices is $2 per game ($388 per ticket). Student ticket prices remain the same as last season. Each game is individually priced, for the per game breakdown read here. Renewal applications begin in March, single game tickets go on sale in June.

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Iowa isn't hiding behind anything

Other than FERPA and I guess that’s okay.

by Knightfan92 on Feb 10, 2012 12:21 PM CST reply actions  

If FERPA is like HIPAA,

it’s not hiding. It’s the law.

You don’t mess with the law. Just ask Nico.

"I mean, are they going to poop their pants or are they going to get tough?" ~Tom Brands

by Hawkeyegirl on Feb 10, 2012 2:41 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Unless FERPA becomes CYA

FERPA applies to “educational records.”

Universities have broadened that to include “anything that has the remotest potential of somehow embarrassing the institution, and by institution we mean the people employed therein making $200,000 or more.”

by Cattlefeeder on Feb 10, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

As I remember it, sometime in the last decade there was a ruling against a university (or college) that broadened the application of FERPA

The school had released something that hadn’t previously been considered an educational record, got sued, and the school took a public face-fucking.

Every other school took that as an opportunity to pucker their facehole and re-write their rules. Sally is kinda like KF only with a little more awareness of public perception (though not much). If neither of them ever had to show anything to the public ever, I think they’d both be very happy.

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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 11, 2012 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Speaking as a reformed member of the 4th Estate

I’d argue that both FERPA and HIPAA have ALWAYS been more about letting official agencies hide and obfuscate. There was no organice, grassroots demand for “privacy” from individuals. But using that as your excuse to pass laws that shield information sure sounds better from a PR standpoint than saying “we would like these new laws to help shield ourselves from sharing potentially embarassing information.”

by Torbee on Feb 10, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I think I just invented a new word - organice

I meant to say organic, but then was thinking “organized”.

I guess organice is an organic, organized effort.

Boom. New word in the English language.

//lexicon’d

by Torbee on Feb 10, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Or a very tasty piece of organic produce

those locally grown organic bing cherries very orgaNICE!

by hawk4trees on Feb 10, 2012 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

were very

whatever, you get what I mean.

by hawk4trees on Feb 10, 2012 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Add it to the BHGP dictionary.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Feb 10, 2012 10:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I subscribe to this theory in general.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Feb 10, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, Mel.

That picture is awesome.

"I’m not going to comment on anything beyond where I’ve been so far." - Gary Barta

by SomeJerkPoster on Feb 10, 2012 12:27 PM CST reply actions  

Ross coined the name "MelYAWN Basabe".

I like it.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Feb 10, 2012 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Melatonin.

"I’m not going to comment on anything beyond where I’ve been so far." - Gary Barta

by SomeJerkPoster on Feb 10, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Rivals.com caliber nicknames, heck yes

Can’t wait for the day when we can have giant animated signatures that take up half a page to really complete the effect.

by NorseHawk on Feb 10, 2012 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Why am I rec'ing this?

Because anytime someone uses the word Squawk I just have to laugh.

by mikjones24 on Feb 10, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

DRAFT FREAK

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Feb 10, 2012 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

George Lazenby?

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Feb 10, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Uber-throwback unis.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Feb 11, 2012 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

FAN-tastic!

Das Stochern gewinnt.

by Blackheartnopants on Feb 11, 2012 4:25 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

There's this little nugget,

According to Richardson, that debate is playing out in courtrooms across the country.

“One such lawsuit filed against Iowa by the Iowa City Press-Citizen recently was argued before the Iowa Supreme Court.

The Press-Citizen argued that a number of documents related to a 2007 sexual assault case involving three student-athletes should be made public. Iowa argued that they are protected under FERPA, Richardson said.

Two lower courts have agreed that the information should be made public. The Supreme Court has not handed down its decision in the case."

posted by Emily Schettler, http://hawkcentral.com/2012/02/09/mason-says-iowa-is-not-hiding-behind-federal-privacy-law/

by IowaFan81 on Feb 10, 2012 12:38 PM CST reply actions  

$388 per ticket?

The tickets better come bedazzled with diamonds and rubys.

by Bust my McNuttz on Feb 10, 2012 12:53 PM CST reply actions  

hmm

I like where you are going with this bedazzled idea.

" I don't wanna sit around watching you 'give it your best.' Either stop sucking or get the f#ck out of the way.."...SMDS

by J.R. Angle has a posse on Feb 11, 2012 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh my. How large is that security human behind Mel? It looks like he’s wearing some kind of rib protector too. WTF?

by txhawkeye on Feb 10, 2012 1:14 PM CST reply actions  

If the picture showed his face, I'd feel too bad to rec this.

But it doesn’t, so rec.

I didn't invent the black turtleneck, but I was the first to recognize its potential as a tactical garment.

by KilometersDavis on Feb 10, 2012 6:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm the same way with hookers.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt

by HawKCP on Feb 11, 2012 11:48 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Blobs

They need a blob showing the percent of Americans who could find Northwestern on this map. I bet it’s pretty small.

Go Hawks!

by crrimson on Feb 10, 2012 1:47 PM CST reply actions  

Basabe yawn

I feel like there’s a meme to be made.

by mikjones24 on Feb 10, 2012 1:49 PM CST reply actions  

I call bullshit on the blob bit

South Dakota has no blobs? North Dakota owns South Dakota too?

It's so sad how a family can be torn apart by something as simple as a pack of wild dogs.

by FiveSecondRuleChef on Feb 10, 2012 2:23 PM CST reply actions  

I've been in SoDak many a times

And I really do think NDSU is king. NoDak isn’t that good, South Dakota isn’t that good and SDSU is division II. So yeah, I think they run the Dakotas.

by mikjones24 on Feb 10, 2012 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Take that back!

SDSU started making the transition the same time NDSU did in 2004. Both are now Division I in basketball, FCS in football.

For what it’s worth, University of South Dakota (little brother) has decided to make the jump now too, but are not eligible for postseason as they are still in the transition phase.

by Kinnick Stadium is my Graceland on Feb 10, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

And NDSU is the reigning FCS football champ, and SDSU has one of the best PG’s in the country in Nate Wolters. They’ve got an outside shot at winning the Summit tourney.

"I don't usually go to the top floor, but tonight I had a business meeting." -Devyn Marble

by One Night Stanzi on Feb 11, 2012 7:27 AM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Priceless
I got two or three balls in the air, and I’m [saying to] the coaches on my staff, ‘What the hell is going on?’"

I am drunk.., or I wouldn't be talking to you.

by codenameduchess on Feb 10, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm opposed to the new football rules.

We might as well have the teams meet at mid-field and have a pinewood derby race to determine the winner.

I said I have a DRINKING PROBLEM!!

by bornofclay on Feb 10, 2012 4:13 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

waaaaay too many kickoff-related injuries

And it’s always been like that. There’s just no need for it in college and high school these days. I really like the 5-yard limit on running starts, too.

by nhradar on Feb 10, 2012 6:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Ok.

How ’bout we get rid of tackling too? Way too many injuries and flag football is just as good.

by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 10, 2012 8:14 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah man how fucking dare people try to make the game safer

Bunch of pussies. I demand people go out there and concuss themselves for my entertainment, dammit.

Look, obviously to some degree football is always going to be dangerous but given what we now know about head injuries we should absolutely be doing whatever we can to minimize that danger without fundamentally changing the sport. The current rate of injuries is completely unacceptable, and if cutting back on that means making a few changes then so fucking be it. I’m totally fine watching a slightly different game if it means fewer guys crippling themselves or winding up with severe mental issues down the road.

I like long kickoff returns too, but to me that’s not something that I absolutely need for it to still be football, and it’s one of the most dangerous plays there is. I don’t remember anyone moaning about how drives that started with a touchback “weren’t real football” before now. The NFL was perfectly fine this year with the new rule, and I’m glad college football is following their example.

by NorseHawk on Feb 10, 2012 10:49 PM CST up reply actions  

No one moans about plays where players don't get tackled either (ex: running out of bounds or touchdowns).

That doesn’t mean the game would be just as interesting if no one ever got tackled.

And it’s not like players only get injured on kickoffs, players get injured in all sorts of plays. Should we make passes over the middle illegal so wide receivers don’t have to risk getting tackled by linebackers?

These players are getting paid millions of dollars to play for our entertainment, it’s reasonable for them to be expected to risk injury for that kind of paycheck. If you’re not willing to, don’t play.

If they want to make the game safer, they might as well get rid of kickoffs altogether because they’re pretty boring now.

I have no problem with them trying to make the game safer with more advanced helmets, banning helmet to helmet hits, and et cetera, but don’t fundamentally change the game.

by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 10, 2012 11:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, I think we need to ban Minnesota from attempting onside kicks.

by txhawkeye on Feb 11, 2012 9:56 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

It's not the only play where people get injured but they get injured at a dispproportionately high level

There’s no other point of the game where you have 11 guys charging at each other with a full head of steam like that. That, along with the fact that it’s a fairly minor part of the game that’s easy to change without radically altering the sport, is why it was ripe for reform.

It’s reasonable to expect some risk, it is not reasonable to expect guys to become lifelong cripples or have dementia when they’re like 50. Come on. I mean if you’re going to make that argument then why have any rules at all? Let’s just let guys shoot at each other, as long as they know the risks, who cares?

(and for the record, I don’t think most people playing football fully understand the risk posed by head injuries, there’s a terrible job educating players of them, and the ridiculous culture of football discourages them from taking it seriously)

by NorseHawk on Feb 11, 2012 12:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Football players are grown adults, they can decide if the money and fame are worth the risk of injury.

Your argument of “why have any rules at all” is ridiculous. I’m not complaining about rules, I’m complaining about rules that are making the game less fun to watch. For example, almost a century ago when they made the flying wedge and etc illegal, that was both for safety and to make the game more fun to watch. I’m sure there are plenty of other similar examples as well. I don’t want the XFL, but I don’t want football to become basketball or soccer either. And since you mentioned it, I think people should be allowed to shoot each other (pistol duels being the antiquated example) if they both agree to it.

It’s a slippery slope, at some point it’s just not going to be fun to watch football anymore. It seems like this whole thing is just an extension of the growing idea here in America that those in power need to protect people from themselves, but that’s probably getting into politics.

by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 11, 2012 1:02 AM CST up reply actions  

football players are grown adults

if that’s not a ridiculously broad yet narrow-minded view of the whole thing.

meh

by tyger1147 on Feb 11, 2012 2:55 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Actually

hardly any of them are “grown adults”. I am not so scared of the concussions sustained by professional players as a I am the thousands of high school and college kids each year. For many of those kids, playing football may be something less than a true choice.

I would much rather any kid of mine wrestle or play basketball or soccer than football. Dementia and death in middle age is a damn scary outcome and it often affects many more people than just the player.

It is like climbing a high mountain and finding nothing at the top except a restaurant where they sell ginger beer, surrounded by fog but equipped with wireless.

by Lycurgus on Feb 11, 2012 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

How common is dementia and death in middle age?

I’m going to guess not very.

And for what it’s worth, soccer has a huge problem with concussions too.

by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 11, 2012 12:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

So when a high school senior signs up to play college football

They have a complete understanding that they’re sacrificing their privacy, but not that they might potentially get a concussion?

Got it.

by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 11, 2012 12:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't most of them are aware of how serious concussions are, no

There’s a culture in football that says you need to hide and play through your injuries, and that anyone who doesn’t is a huge pussy, and that’s going to take years to change. People flipping out about how any change that makes the game safer is like “flag football” does not help in this regard. Kids are not properly educated in how serious head injuries, and particularly recurring head injuries, are and it can lead to serious problems down the road.

by NorseHawk on Feb 11, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

What's wrong with flag football?

Are you saying football players are huge pussies if they don’t want to tackle each other at the risk of getting concussed?

And it’s not really football’s culture. It’s the same for all sports and for society in general.

by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 11, 2012 1:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

You missed the sarcasm.

You were pointing out that the “macho man” culture of football needs to change, but in the same breath said that comparing making the game safer to flag football (and thereby stigmatizing flag football) is part of the problem. They’re contradictory messages.

It’s like when people argue gay couples shouldn’t be allowed to adopt kids because the kids will be made fun of.

by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 11, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually, sarcasm is probably the wrong word.

It’s usage of hyperbole to make you realize the irony of your own post.

by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 11, 2012 2:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Or you just can't read

I was criticizing other people for calling any changes designed to improve safety an attempt to turn it into flag football, and lumping it in with the overall macho culture surrounding the game. I was not sharing that I shared that view

by NorseHawk on Feb 11, 2012 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm the one that can't read? Ok.

The way that YOU somehow see flag football in a negative light compared to tackle football (As implied by “People flipping out about how any change that makes the game safer is like "flag football" does not help in this regard.”) IS the problem you’re talking about.

If we were to truly move past “macho football culture” or what the fuck ever, there would be nothing negative about the comparison. You’re helping to build up that culture in the same breath you’re saying it needs to be ended.

Does that make sense?

by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 11, 2012 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

No because it's a gross misreading of what I actually said

I’m not saying flag football is necessarily a negative thing (though it’s a pretty gross exaggeration of what the rules changes are actually doing). I’m saying people who do make those comparisons are using it in a negative way to demean efforts to make the game safer, and that’s part of the reason it’s been a struggle to do so.

This is a strange rhetorical tact on your part.

by NorseHawk on Feb 11, 2012 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

It was a minor point, but it went completely overt your head so I had to explain it twice.

Like I’ve said several times already, I’m not against making the game safer or even less physical. I’m just against changes that make it less entertaining so that point is moot anyway.

What are kids properly educated about? Heart disease? No. But should we limit the amount of butter people are allowed to buy? No. Kids in general are uninformed. People in general are uniformed. But at the same time, it’s their right to make their own decisions and it’s no one’s fault but their own if they get injured chasing fame and fortune.

Yes, football needs to be safer, but it can be made safer without sacrificing any of the entertainment value of the sport. Could it be made even more safe by lessening the entertainment value? Sure, but in my opinion that’s unnecessary, because, while the risk of injury is there (and will always be no matter how safe you try to make football), the risk is worth the benefit to almost every football player.

And why should I be forced to watch a lesser product because football players are taking less risk than they’re paid to?

by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 11, 2012 5:04 PM CST up reply actions  

But they're different games.

If I said they were making football more like rugby, if you like football, isn’t that a negative?

meh

by tyger1147 on Feb 12, 2012 5:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Meh, I'm not sure this can be universally applied

My coach, one of the winnest in Iowa, was concerned about unecessary injury – head shots included – when I played 20 years ago. He could not have been the only one.
And the culture does include an element of pushing yourself. I benefitted from that. Sometimes testing yourself hurts. That’s why it is a test.
I back the idea of safer play, but I also underatand that safety has its limits. And we as a sports viewing culture have to come to terms with the reality that a lot of the fun stuff can be really dangerous. I’d like to take a look a head scan of Shaun White 20 years from now.

Das Stochern gewinnt.

by Blackheartnopants on Feb 11, 2012 4:34 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

I would suggest that your coach was very much in the minority

There is so element of pushing yourself in sports, sure. But there’s a pretty massive difference between playing through a little pain or soreness and rushing back from a head injury and setting yourself for potentially life-altering consequences. That is not a test of manhood, it’s just stupid, and it’s something that the entire sport does not yet address well enough.

by NorseHawk on Feb 11, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Fair...

There are times when I think some of your concerns have much to do with the athletes themselves.
My son plays football and soccer. He may pick up Tae Kwon Do soon. My wife pushed ‘safe’ sports like tennis and baseball. I remember his last year of T-ball watching him kicking grass in the outfield and the Mrs saying “he hates this.” Same with tennis. And these are fine sports.

But when football and soccer came around, you could see the light come on. The physicality of both was so appealing to him. Last spring, during soccer, he developed pneumonia. He sat one game before begging to play, begging to the point of crying. We thought long and hard before allowing him back on the field. But he was happy.
So while I agree with some of your points, I’m not sure we can change the culture enough to ‘help’ kids who dearly love what they’re doing.
And some of this is worldview. I don’t feel like I was victimized, and I was concussed in a game.
And I’ll make this point again… a lot of the fun stuff is just dangerous. MMA, skiiing, bicycling, football, soccer wrestling and martial arts, extreme sports of all kinds. Dangerous..

Das Stochern gewinnt.

by Blackheartnopants on Feb 11, 2012 5:33 PM CST via Android app up reply actions   1 recs

I think it's a lot more obvious.

Yes. I feel high schoolers are a lot more attuned to the nuances of fame and celebrity than they are to the latest medical sciences. Maybe I’m naive in that.

Get it?

meh

by tyger1147 on Feb 12, 2012 5:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Do you have a source for this? Because it sounds like a goofy conspiracy theory

Anyway, a better helmet would probably help a bit, but most of the damage is done by your brain rattling around inside the skull, so there’s only so much you can do through equipment. The game and the culture of it is what really needs to change, at all levels.

by NorseHawk on Feb 11, 2012 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Didn't they find the safest helmets reduced concussions about 60% versus the least safe?

…and Iowa uses the least safe.

But I’m sure moving the kickoff forward is the best way to protect the players.

by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 11, 2012 1:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

It's A way to protect them, sure

There’s no one magic fix. You need to do a lot of things.

by NorseHawk on Feb 11, 2012 1:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I was just asking for a citation man, no need to get angry

And again, the helmet is only a small part of the problem. Getting better helmets is not going to magically make it go away, there needs to be larger changes to the game than that.

by NorseHawk on Feb 11, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Part of the problem

is “helmet reconditioning.”

The companies will repair old helmets. If they didn’t, then all teams might be forced to (albeit, slowly) buy new, hopefully safer helmets.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Feb 11, 2012 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

it might sound counterintuitve...

But a radically different approach to helmets would help. The hard shell on modern football helmets has two important negative effects. First it encourages spearing because players feel protected; second it does litttle in terms of decelerating the impact of a violent collision. A soft shell design made from kevlar or a neoprine with modern foam in between layers of material would improve outcomes. Too bad culturally “we” want to see carnage and we want football players to look a certain unhuman way.

by rosko on Feb 11, 2012 2:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I think that a Buffalo Bills player used to wear one of these back in the day.

I think he had several concussions and was faced with either retiring or using a really out of the box soft-shell helmet. He picked the helmet, and was apparently mocked quite a bit for it.

by StewMonkey13 on Feb 13, 2012 8:57 AM CST up reply actions  

And a 49er guy

wore an extra shell on top of his helmet.

Yep, here it is. 49er was Steve Wallace, the Buffalo guy was Mark Kelso.

http://www.pigskinbuzz.com/the-five-weirdest-helmets-ever-worn-in-the-nfl-1547

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Feb 13, 2012 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

No.

From the article:
2011: 53.4% of kicks returned, 43.5% touchbacks
2010: 80.1% / 16.4%
2009: 80.7% / 16.1%
2008: 82.1% / 14.4%
2007: 82.5% / 12.4%

by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 10, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Average starting field position:

2011: 22.1 yard line
2010: 26.8
2009: 26.4
2008: 27.2
2007: 28.1

by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 10, 2012 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Doing the math on that to account for the greater number of touchbacks:

The average kick that WAS returned in 2011 was returned a full 5 yards less than those returned in 2010.

by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Feb 10, 2012 9:02 PM CST up reply actions  

BRING BACK THE XFL!

I said I have a DRINKING PROBLEM!!

by bornofclay on Feb 10, 2012 10:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

This will only help us unless we get stronger kickers

How many touchbacks did we have last year – two or three at most. The fundamental bend-but-don’t break defenses are significantly more effective when the opponent has the entire field to drive instead of just 60 or 65 yards. This will help us…can’t really hurt us.
On the flip side, our returns we OK, just not good enough to make a rule change like this all that impactful. Besides i cringe when these kids are getting banged up away from the actual tackle. This is where i think alot of the injuries which can be reduced will come from (see Tyler Sash in the playoffs). Tackling will still be dangerous…but that IS part of the game.
I realize my argument is full of supposition and based on my recollection of the past couple of seasons…but that is good enough for today :)

by DaaCF on Feb 11, 2012 7:11 AM CST up reply actions  

That was my 1st thought, too

From a purely selfish Iowa fan perspective, this is good. Like you said, our kickers in the past few years have done a poor job with touchbacks, coverage has been spotty, and Iowa’s kick return team average or worse. At least in the recent past.

by H I McDonnough on Feb 11, 2012 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

meh, you'll still watch.

or you won’t, and someone who appreciates the slightly less chance of having a kid grow up mentally disturbed will take your place in fandom.

meh

by tyger1147 on Feb 11, 2012 2:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Not really sure we can officially connect mental disturbance with "football" right now,

unless you want us to use you, Tyger, as Exhibit A.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Feb 11, 2012 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

It's definitely been connected in medical studies.

If you’re saying it’s too early to claim a direct causal link, sure, but the same can be said for smoking and lung cancer. But a connection? If you don’t want to say it, that’s fine. But don’t include and me the medical people who have studied into your little world.

meh

by tyger1147 on Feb 12, 2012 5:40 AM CST up reply actions  

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