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It's hard to believe that one tactical change could make such a difference, but Iowa's switch to a 2-3 zone at the four minute mark in the first half completely changed the course of this game. Until that point, the Gophers had looked unstoppable, building a 32-21 lead and going 14-23 (61%) from the field with six layups or dunks and just two turnovers. After that point, they went 12-35 (34%) from the field, 3-18 from three, had ten turnovers and generally looked completely flummoxed. It was as though Fran McCaffery had cast a spell that turned the aggressive, athletic Gophers into meek, docile rodents.*

* In the Harry Potter universe, this spell would be called "Goferus Zonebrickus".

It was a very smart move that Minnesota inexplicably had no counter for. And it was kind of shocking to see an Iowa zone work effectively at all. Usually when the Hawks go to a zone, it's a 3-2 affair that is quickly torched by three-point shooting and never seen again. But the switch to the 2-3, which places three defenders down low and allows for more trapping in the post, combined with the Gophers inability to hit an outside shot, allowed Iowa to shut down the Minnesota offense almost completely. Credit goes to McCaffery for switching to it when he did, and to the wing players (Zach McCabe, Aaron White and Eric May) maintaining their discipline in the zone and harassing Minnesota's post players whenever they got the ball on the baseline. Some sort of coaching demerit also needs to go to Tubby Smith, who seemingly had no answer or even attempted answer for the zone. The Gophers just kept passing around the perimeter desultorily, then launching up bricks from the perimeter. It was bizarre.

Star-divide

For all that good work on defense, Iowa nearly blew it with a stunningly bad performance at the free throw line in the last minute. Up seven with 39 seconds left, Devyn Marble missed the second of two free throws, and on subsequent possessions Matt Gatens, White and Marble combined to go 0-6 from the stripe. When you consider that Gatens missed the front end of a one-and-one, the Hawks really cost themselves seven points in that last minute, and gave Minnesota a wholly undeserved shot at a tie or win. Luckily Maverick Ahanmisi's layup attempt missed as time expired, and the Hawks were able to walk out with another impressive Big 10 road victory.

But back to the zone, because that was really the story of the game. The Hawks had started the game in mostly man-to-man, but this exposed several serious mismatches, most importantly McCabe or White on Ralph Sampson III. Sampson was able to shoot over those two with ease and started the game with six quick points. Meanwhile the other Gophers looked an order of magnitude more athletic than their Iowa counterparts, getting out on the break and scoring quickly. Frankly, the game had the feeling of a blowout. Then the Hawks got a lucky break, but one that didn't seem like a lucky break at the time: Melsahn Basabe got two quick fouls in succession. That forced Fran McCaffery to go to his bench, and he brought out a player that hasn't been seen much this year: Devon Archie. It's hard to know if Iowa would have switched to the zone if Archie hadn't come in (his length and leaping ability is well-suited to the zone, but he's not the strongest one-on-one defender), and if they hadn't switched to the zone, they may not have won the game. Archie wound up making a huge difference during that stretch of the game, anchoring the zone, altering a three-point shot and coming up with a steal in the closing seconds of the half and passing it up to Aaron White, who finished with a layup that cut the Minnesota lead to one. For a player that played just nine minutes and went 0-0 with zero rebounds, Archie was crucial to Iowa's success, if only because he showed them a way to finally kill all the Gophers.

Until that point, the Hawks had barely avoided going down 20, and the fact that they didn't was largely due to some tenacious offensive rebounding. The Hawks scored 9 of their first 21 points off of second chances generated by offensive rebounds. And that effort continued the entire game, as Iowa managed to grab 38.7% of their offensive rebounding chances, almost equaling the impressive offensive rebounding effort of Minnesota, who grabbed 42.3% of their chances. If anything kept the Gophers within striking distance in the second half, it was offensive rebounding. The zone worked wonders for the Hawkeyes, but it meant that Minnesota was frequently taking long shots that bricked off the rim for long caroms and that Iowa's players were not matched up one on one to box out. The Gophers grabbed nine of their 12 offensive rebounds in the second half, and probably would have lost by 10 without those extra chances (well, they should have lost by 10 anyway, but you know what I mean).

On offense, the Hawks benefited from strong contributions from Gatens and McCabe. Gatens looked as aggressive as he has all year, going for his shot often and making 7-11 shots (2-5 on threes) for 19 points. I'm not sure who had Gatens for the Gophers (Julian Welch, maybe?), but Gatens used his size advantage to shoot over the Gophers again and again, both from the perimeter and on some decisive moves off the dribble. The senior finished with the uber-efficient scoring line of 72% eFG%, 6 rebounds (3 offensive), three assists, three steals, and zero turnovers. If it weren't for three uncharacteristic missed free throws, it would have been a flawless game. And McCabe, who has really struggled with his outside shot, went 2-2 from deep to go along with four offensive rebounds, 4-4 free throw shooting, and yeoman's work in the zone defense. It would help McCabe's offensive game so much if he could reliably make the three, because that would force teams to cover him on the perimeter, allowing him to get into the basket more easily. A few times in this game he faked the outside shot, got the Minnesota player to bite, then drove to the hoop for either a basket or a foul. He's a load once he gets the ball down low, and can finish quite well at odd angles.

It was a quiet game for Melsahn Basabe and Bryce Cartwright, unfortunately. Basabe really struggles against taller players, and couldn't figure out a way to score over Sampson III. He finished with no points on 0-3 shooting, and played just 11 minutes. Cartwright also took a step back from his brilliant performance against Wisconsin, making several inexplicable unforced turnovers and finishing with six points and two assists. The nice thing about this Hawkeye team is that they do have a bit of depth and versatility, and can afford to have an off game from two of their top players and still win.

And for the Aaron White watchers out there, he played well, if not as phenomenally as he did against Wisconsin. His main contributions were on the offensive glass, where he grabbed three boards, and on the break, where he finished off of the aforementioned Archie steal, and on a dunk off a sweet pass from Cartwright where he raced ahead of the defense and flushed it home.

But, oh, those free throws. The Hawks had the Gophers mentally beaten, but let them back in the game by inexplicably clanging shot after shot off the rim. I don't know if it was nerves or just bad luck, but it came at the worst possible time. The thing Iowa probably does the best on offense right now is draw fouls, and they managed to win the free throw attempt battle by 14 in this game, an impressive feat for a road team in the Big 10. If they had just made more of those shots, this would have been a comfortable victory rather than a nail-biter. A win is a win, though, and the Hawks are already roughly half-way to the number of conference victories most of us (myself included) thought the team would win this year.

Ref notez

The referees were mostly fine, I thought, but there were a couple egregious missed calls in the second half that I just have to mention. The first was when Rodney Williams got a dunk and then basically did a chin-up on the rim and waved his legs/crotchal region in Zach McCabe's face for a good five seconds:

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The ref gave Williams a stern talking-to after the play, but I think the rule book is clear here:

6.1. Class B Technical Infractions... f. Grasping either basket in an excessive, emphatic manner during the officials’ jurisdiction when the player is not, in the judgment of an official, trying to prevent an obvious injury to self or others.

Considering that Williams swung into McCabe and could have just dropped to the ground without impediment, it seems like this was just obnoxiousness on his part. The Hawks should have gotten two shots and the ball here.

The second was a 10-second call that wasn't called, where Iowa pressed Minnesota and their guard clearly didn't get the ball over the half-court line in time:

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Iowa won and, again, the refs were mostly fine, but these two calls were just so clearly off that I wanted to mention them.

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Ralph Sampson is horrible

He has the energy and initiative of a stoned 100 year old tortoise.

You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Jan 5, 2012 12:39 PM CST reply actions  

truly disturbing

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 5, 2012 6:17 PM CST up reply actions  

This is a great post.

I saw the connections.

"West Texas seems to be full of fake boobs providing a comfortable shade for well-developed pot bellies" - Lycurgus (06/24/2011)

by BStylin Hawkye on Jan 5, 2012 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Well Done

This is great. It sums up a lot of my feelings, too. Basketball at Iowa was my first love growing up. Football was secondary.

I was a teenager when Lute built the program. I was a student during Lute’s Final Four season. A buddy and I trudged to the Fieldhouse from Burge Hall every game. Our season tickets were “restricted vision” seats (a post impeded our view of part of the court) our first three years. Finally, for our senior season, we “graduated” to season ticket seats that were not “restricted vision.” It was a wonderful time.

I have been to enough games at Carver to know that that place can rock for a Big Ten game when the Hawks are good. It will never approach the raucousness of the Fieldhouse, but it can be a good atmosphere. I can’t wait til we are back to that level, and we just might be getting close already.

by JimJF on Jan 5, 2012 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Carver can definitely be loud

My first game there was against Duke in 1993. They still had Grant Hill, Cherokee Parks, all those guys. Iowa was seriously short-handed (I think Jess Settles was a freshman) and trailed by double-digits the entire way, but they battled and had a shot to tie at the buzzer. The place was going absolutely ballistic the entire time, even though Iowa lost.

My senior year at Iowa was 2005-2006 and Carver rocked. The MSU and IU games that year were extremely loud.

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Jan 5, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

CHEROKEE PARKS!

Man, I’d forgotten all about that guy.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 5, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

And I saw him pre-tats!!!

Seriously, what a fucking dufus.

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Jan 5, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I remember him being one of the many stiffs who did a spell with the T-Wolves in the '90s.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 5, 2012 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

the game that you mentioned against Michigan

at Carver, the first home game after Street’s death, Carver was deafening. Carver can be loud.

by telepathetic on Jan 5, 2012 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I was there

Absolutely as loud as that place can get. All of the emotion poured out that day.

by djwoody on Jan 5, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I was a student at that game . . .

First and only time I ever CRIED with emotion due to a sporting event (granted, major emotional extenuating circumstances).

One of my fondest, but still bittersweet, college memories.

RIP #40

by Torbee on Jan 5, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Me, too.

The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.

by HawkeyeGirleye on Jan 5, 2012 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Carver is oppressively loud when the Hawks are good.

Too many are simply too young to remember it.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jan 5, 2012 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Hell, I'm 31 and I'm too young to remember it.

My college years were the tail end of the Tom Davis era, and as much as I loved Dr. Tom, I don’t think he or his later teams (post-Woolridge) inspired as much raucousness as previous eras.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 5, 2012 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't be sorry,

it is a great post. I think you speak for many of us that grew up watching good Iowa basketball and now have suffered through the bad years. FYI, I believe most of the rest of games are on BTN, ESPN or some other network so you don’t have to watch online.

Your best line is “These guys deserve a sell-out crowd on Saturday.” They very much do, they’ve come a long way in just the past couple of weeks, remember Creighton, Clemson, Campbell, ISU, and UNI? My hope is that it will be at least loud on Saturday and maybe sold out. When do classes resume, hopefully a good section, too.

by IowaFan81 on Jan 5, 2012 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

All remaining games are on BTN, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, or CBS.

Which is nice, since people will actually be able to WATCH them. Hell, we might have to start doing two gamethreads for basketball the same way we do for football. There were 1400 comments last night and while that was partially due to the Orange Bowl going on at the same time, that’s still a LOT more comments than we’ve had for most basketball games lately.

Students won’t be back en masse until 1/17, unfortunately. I think there will still be a very good crowd on Saturday, though.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 5, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

BTN2GO

I bring this up just because I had no idea it existed until I stumbled across a comment in some thread.

www.btn2go.com streams a ton of stuff, including bball games that weren’t on BTN and is FREE if you have cable or satelite from certain providers. I can’t access the list of who those providers are right now, though. In my case I just logged in with my DirecTV user ID & password, picked the game and got a pretty watchable stream of it on my laptop. I assume the picture quality will improve with time.

"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer

by Flakbait on Jan 5, 2012 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

The providers are

Brighthouse, Cox, Charter, Time Warner Cable, DirecTV, and Dish Network.

by nerdhawk on Jan 5, 2012 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

The comment thread last night was hilarious for the tangents. Refreshing, too, in that people aren’t so fucking pissed, and are happy about the hoopyballers.

by txhawkeye on Jan 5, 2012 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Rec'd

I have a very similar story. I moved to WI in ‘87 when I was little, and had an uncle who would tape the games and mail them to us. Sometimes we’d huddle in the car in the dead of winter because it could somewhat get WMT and we’d listen to the games. Waiting for my uncle to mail us the tapes so we could then watch, and rewatch the games.

Seeing basketball being relevant again (and not feeling a little dirty about rooting for the team, ala during the Coach [REDACTED] era) is a complete joy. This must be what people felt like after Hayden was hired.

by StewMonkey13 on Jan 5, 2012 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

StewMonkey13 - my alter ego

I moved to Wisconsin in 1985 and remember taking a sleeping bag and walkman out to the front yard at 10:00 pm for the 1986 Great Alaska Shootout because I could only get WMT or WHO at that time of night by setting up camp within a 3-foot radius of the telephone pole. We lived on the outskirts of town and I was already a junior high nerd, so I didn’t have much to lose.

by Cattlefeeder on Jan 5, 2012 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

well spoken

and a tremendous add to the work of HEC
two things
you left out the fourteen season Jess Settles played

and if you look at the tOSU kids under matta
they SMILE

and i saw a little of that smile
and a lot of the old hustle from our kids last night

GO HAWKS

Her noblesse exceeded her oblige

by OhioHawk on Jan 5, 2012 5:27 PM CST up reply actions  

That and "Broncos in playoffs???"

Those two got me.

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Jan 5, 2012 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Stupid Tebow.

Stupid shitty Raider defense.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 5, 2012 1:17 PM CST up reply actions  

They're going to get ass-blasted on Sunday

RIP, Tebow-mania.

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Jan 5, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I certainly hope so.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 5, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Tebow-mania ain't going anywhere

It has plenty of life to get through at least next year.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 5, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Not without marked improvement from Mr. Timothy Tebow in the offseason.

His play fell of a cliff the last few weeks and the faithful are already getting restless.

But we should probably save this for a H’dam thread.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 5, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Ass blasted?

Is this a poop joke?

Das Stochern gewinnt.

by Blackheartnopants on Jan 5, 2012 4:35 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

The Steelers are going to spray fart all over the Broncos on Sunday.

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Jan 5, 2012 5:53 PM CST up reply actions  

The only thing partially true about that statement is that they didn't deserve to make the playoffs.

With that defense, they did not deserve it.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 5, 2012 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Tebow having nothing to do with it is also partially true

I suppose the “not wanting it” part was unfair, but who cares? They couldn’t even beat the shitty Chargers in Week 17 when they just had to win to get into the playoffs. Molotov cocktails aimed at their desire are probably in order.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 5, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Now you're just trolling me.

And without Tebow pulling all those wins out of his ass, they might have made the playoffs anyway.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 5, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Partially guilty

(of trolling). Fully guilty of this being something to wait for Hamsterdam.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 5, 2012 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Marion Barber would like to tell all a thing or 2 about where a good share of the blame belongs.

by txhawkeye on Jan 5, 2012 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

i’m better
sorry
thanks

Das Stochern gewinnt.

by Blackheartnopants on Jan 5, 2012 4:41 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Damn you...

I had buried that memory until now…

"He lowballed us and said: 'Take it or leave it. If you don't take our offer, you are rolling the dice.' I said: 'Consider them rolled.' " - Jim "Huge Brass Balls" Delaney

by ClaybornSmash on Jan 5, 2012 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Initially I thought you were blaming Barber for Chicago missing the playoffs.

Then I decided that it was a comment about Barber saving the Broncos. The Bears have many more reasons than Barber’s performance against Denver to blame for missing the playoffs. (that’s a really terrible sentence but I’ve no idea how to clean it up so it remains)

by The Mexican't on Jan 5, 2012 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

The man in charge of signing Angelo has been sacked

I’m happy. But this is a Hamsterdam.

Das Stochern gewinnt.

by Blackheartnopants on Jan 5, 2012 5:06 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Damn! Meant Barber!

Moar coffee!

Das Stochern gewinnt.

by Blackheartnopants on Jan 5, 2012 5:07 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

I read that as "Singing Angelo"

And I shrieked in terror just a little bit

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 5, 2012 6:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I was laughing at the hanging on the rim bit.

That was a farce of officiating on that; McCabe had every right to be irritated.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jan 5, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Zone defense

I didn’t get to watch the game until about 11 minutes were left in the second half. I was surprised to see Iowa using a zone defense given their struggles with it earlier this year. I was even more surprised to see it working.

by Enoch on Jan 5, 2012 1:21 PM CST reply actions  

As was I

But if you look at the stats from conference play, Iowa’s holding teams to 18.3% shooting from 3 in conference play (13-71). That’s tops in the league. 6 of those made 3’s came in the Purdue game, so it’s just 13.7% over the two road games. The field goal defense has improved as a whole. I like the 2-3 much more than the 3-2.

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Jan 5, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Was it a 3-2 earlier in the season?

To me it looked much more like a 1-3-1 trap. An aggressive defense, but once broken can give up lots of open looks either right underneath the hoop or on the perimeter. It can also lead to a lot of turnovers. The thing you really need with the 1-3-1 trap is a good big man underneath to protect the rim.

My guess is that Fran still wants to be able to run it, but just can’t with the current personnel. Watch for it again once Woodbury get here, though.

by StewMonkey13 on Jan 5, 2012 1:57 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

seems to me the 3-2 would be much better against 3's

than the 2-3 but I am a fan, not a coach. I guess this is why Fran is doing what he does and I do what I do.

Whatever works, go with it. (Football team please learn from this)

"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody

by The Bacon Explosion on Jan 5, 2012 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Generally that is correct, but it can leave the corners pretty void of defenders.

Also, it opens wing players up to drive to the basket relatively unimpeded, depending on the rotation of the rest of the zone.

As was mentioned above, the 1-3-1 is predicated on having that solid last line of defense at the back end of it to clean up any messes caused by the other guys. Woodbury sounds like he might be that guy.

The guys we have are pretty well suited to the 2-3, in my opinion (and last night’s results bore that out), provided the other team isn’t able to shoot us out of it. Minnesota really has little as far as outside shooting, so the 2-3 was really effective. It shows that Fran is able to see what needs adjusted, knows what adjustments to make and is able to do so. Clearly they are working on the right things in practice so the players are comfortable switching defenses during the course of a game without looking lost.

"No I'm not going to 'limber up'. You ever see a lion stretching before it takes down a gazelle?"

by Swarley on Jan 5, 2012 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

It shows that Fran is able to see what needs adjusted, knows what adjustments to make and is able to do so.

We haven’t had a coach that can make those adjustments on the fly in some time. Alford was starting to break out of his MAN-TO-MAN-OR-DIE mindset when Neal joined the staff and would throw random zones at people that were largely effective. I honestly didn’t watch much of the Lickliter era, but he seemed similar to the early Alford man-to-man mantra.

It seems like a 3-2 can be stretched because there’s a lot of responsibility on the wings and therefore leaves open shots more than a 2-3, but I’m no coach. Obviously, the 2-3 can be beaten as well if you’re patient and attack the middle.

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Jan 5, 2012 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Beating a 2-3:

Attack the middle, as you pointed out, then kick it out to the shooters or drop it to a guy cutting from the corner. High/low post sets can mess with a 2-3 as well.

Swinging the ball around crisply and ball reversals will wipe out a zone’s effectiveness pretty quickly, too.

"No I'm not going to 'limber up'. You ever see a lion stretching before it takes down a gazelle?"

by Swarley on Jan 5, 2012 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

The free throw line is extremely vulnerable

Get the ball there and then its easy pickens

by vahawk on Jan 5, 2012 7:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Um guys

It’s a matchup zone they’ve been playing all along, the 3-2 or 2-3 look is based upon the offensive set. The problem that they have miraculously figured out* is that zone doesn’t mean guarding an area, it means matching up positionally. all year, including the Pur-duh game, they didn’t identify offensive players and adjust their positions accordingly. In Madison and Minneapolis, they did.
They do have another zone look that they haven’t used much, the run and jump where they try to trap at the hash marks, but haven’t seen that much at all this year.

*by miraculously figured out, I mean finally caught on to repeated drilling by staff in practice

by Sky High King on Jan 5, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Can we just offer Fran a "coach here for life" salary already?

someone somewhere is going to offer him someday, and i want him here forever.

"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts

by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 5, 2012 4:01 PM CST reply actions  

We don't need people griping about his salary just yet.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 5, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

if he does as well as he has at other places, its only a matter of time before we are fending off the big dogs for him

and if Ferentz played football like Fran plays basketball, i think you would hear a lot less griping, Iowa fans like agressiveness and would rather see a hail mary intercepted than a kneel down with 10 seconds left in the half.

"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts

by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 5, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Iowa fans like wins, period.

When Ferentz was getting them, there wasn’t much griping.

Fran is getting them now, so people are ga-ga over him. Fran also has the benefit of being in a honeymoon period and simply being Not Alford and Not Lickliter. At some point neither of those things will matter anymore and if Iowa is no longer getting wins, the gripes will be out for him, too, aesthetically pleasing style of basketball or not.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 5, 2012 4:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.

Fran also benefits from incredibly tempered expectations. These last two wins are going to ramp up his pressure this year, but not to the point that anyone calls for his head.

by The Mexican't on Jan 5, 2012 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

A few games ago

we already had somebody on here bitching about him.

"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer

by Flakbait on Jan 5, 2012 6:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Seriously?

Wow. As low as the hoopyballers have been, I don’t expect that I’ll be upset with win totals for at least another 3-4 seasons, providing the team is improving.

"No I'm not going to 'limber up'. You ever see a lion stretching before it takes down a gazelle?"

by Swarley on Jan 6, 2012 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Ross and Mexican't summed it up perfectly

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 5, 2012 6:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Fran wants to be the guy who makes Iowa a big dog.

His early recruiting has me believing (Aaron White). Maybe there is a school or two where he’d rather be, but if he is successful he probably believes he will get here in IC.

"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy

by BentNotBroken on Jan 5, 2012 7:09 PM CST up reply actions  

*believes he will get PAID in IC

ommitting words is awesome.

"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy

by BentNotBroken on Jan 5, 2012 7:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Completely unrelated post

I watched the brilliant Hawkeye victory on dvr last night after attending the Simpson/Coe game in Cedar Rapids. Good game with lots of good players.
Forgot what a joy it is to watch a college basketball game without media timeouts. Significantly changes the game in multiple ways.
I know the thirst for money in bigtime ball and the need for commercials to get it won’t be changing any time soon, if ever. So rather than making this a post about the good old days, please consider this a plug to get out and see a good D3 game sometime and see for yourselves what I mean.

by Sky High King on Jan 5, 2012 4:30 PM CST reply actions  

Of course you will also see a lot of really bad basketball players

Unless it features the Fighting Norse of Luther College, obviously.

(I have no idea if we have a good basketball team)

(probably not)

(PRE SEC TER QUA, MOTHERFUCKER)

by NorseHawk on Jan 5, 2012 11:18 PM CST up reply actions  

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by StewMonkey13 on Jan 6, 2012 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

I took a pretty lengthy break from when Minnesota was about to break 30 to the second half.

Tuning back in three minutes into the second, I was shocked to see a MID-GAME ADJUSTMENT?!?!?!?!? I was pleasantly surprised; this is something we haven’t seen from Iowa basketball (or, let’s be totally honest, football in the past year or two) in quite awhile. For now, the Frantastic feeling is here to stay.

Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.

by hkobb7 on Jan 5, 2012 5:43 PM CST reply actions  

On the topic of botched calls; how did the refs miss Gatens getting totally handfaced on his 3 point attempt?

If an Iowa player did that in the Troll Dome in Cedar Falls, it would have been assault charges.

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by BentNotBroken on Jan 5, 2012 7:12 PM CST reply actions  

Did you see how quickly they called a foul on Iowa's next possession on the guy?

Of course a foul away from the ball resulting in an inbound is a poor makeup for 3 FT’s from Gatens, but it was obvious the refs knew they completely missed that call.

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by ClaybornSmash on Jan 6, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Worst call was the non-travel on Sampson

He faked and obviously left his feet, but there was no call. The play by play guy said good no call, he didn’t move his pivot foot (he obviously did). They showed a replay and the color guy commented on his good footwork. It was weird, since the travel was so obvious.

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