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Caring Is Creepy 2012: Have a Seat, Nate Meier

In-between poaching a quarterback from SEC territory for the second straight year and making a rare trip out west to add another 4* prospect to the offensive line, Iowa found time to do a little work around the homefront in Recruiting Quest 2k12, grabbing Nate Meier out of Fremont-Mills High School in Tabor, Iowa. (If you have no clue where Tabor is -- don't feel bad because I didn't -- it's in the southwestern corner of the state.) Meier was a superstar in the 8-man ranks* last year, leading Fremont-Mills to a state title (they won the state final 81-0) and put up the sort of stats that would be hard to replicate on EA's NCAA Football series even at the Junior Varsity setting: 2494 yards rushing and 57 touchdowns, plus 112 tackles (34 TFL) and 11 sacks. That's phenomenal production, albeit against one of the lower levels of competition. That "lower levels of competition" caveat plus his lack of other big-time offers (he chose Iowa over South Dakota and UNI and was reportedly considering a walk-on offer to Iowa as recently as a week or two ago) are the biggest reasons that he's a consensus 2* recruit.

* ZOMG just like Chad Greenway! (Almost -- Greenway played 9-man football in South Dakota.) If he's half the player Greenway was for Iowa, we should be inordinately pleased. But, please, let's not expect him to be an all-Big Ten standout and future NFL first round draft pick just because his prep background contains a superficial similarity to Greenway's own background. He's a 2* prospect offered less than a week from Signing Day -- as a recruit, he is the very definition of a "flier."

Meier has good size (6-2, 235) and a listed 40 time of 4.6. What he doesn't have is a clearly defined position at the next level.

He said he’s being recruited as a running back, but he also said that could change. Iowa is looking at him as a running back, fullback, linebacker and defensive end.

"I’m being recruited as a running back, but they said with my size and my speed, I could fit in at a couple places," Meier said. "I could play running back, fullback, linebacker, or rush end. I like running back, but I want to get on the field as fast I can, so wherever I can do that is where I want to play."

Mr. Optimist says he's versatile and has the ability to plug a variety of holes for Iowa. Mr. Pessimist says he's a perpetual tweener and a man without a set position destined to bounce from one slot to another without ever making a big impact anywhere. But let's briefly examine his prospects at each position.

Running back offers perhaps the clearest path to playing time, given AIRBHG's annual clearout of the top of the depth chart, but while the idea of a 6-2, 235 bowling ball stampeding through B1G defenses is fun, he may not have the quicks to do much at RB. Size-wise, he seems like a good fit for FB, but the depth chart there is already clogged with names as well as a very good incumbent starter (Brad Rogers). The depth chart at DE is even more barren than at RB, but he might be a little too slight to be a factor there, at least in the short term. There's more of a bottleneck at LB, although beyond James Morris, Christian Kirksey, and Anthony Hitchens, very little is settled. I suspect that in the short term his future is on special teams and as an emergency linebacker. But it wouldn't surprise me at all if he was lining up with a hand down at DE in a year or two.

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Looks like he may be a step slow for RB

I like the idea of Doyleizing him for a few years and throwing him out there at DE.

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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jan 31, 2012 11:05 AM CST reply actions  

Watching that tape is bizarre

I don’t think I’d ever punt or kick off in bounds in 8 man football. You have to make like 3 guys miss to take it back to the house.

Also, do they ever throw? Do we know if he has hands? He carries the ball like a TE, and has the size and speed for that as well.

Looks like a great special teams option and a solid flier. I agree his “let the puny 8 man defenders bounce off as they attempt to tackle me and then run through what would be the secondary if we had enough players for there to be a secondary” running/trucking style won’t work at the B1G level as an RB, but he definitely looks like a player. Hope he does well.

by Notclevr on Jan 31, 2012 11:19 AM CST reply actions  

Didn't watch this video,

but I did watch another of the game where he had 500 yds rushing. He also had 2 int’s in the game and both were pretty athletic int’s. Small sample size, but showed good hands.

by IowaFan81 on Jan 31, 2012 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

The kid is a player

I have a hunch that MLB might be in his future. The kid is almost physically ready for College play. Although, a red shirt and the addition of 10-15lbs of pure muscle will do him well. He will have to learn and adjust to alot when they add 6 more guys to the playing field

A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves

by waterboy31321 on Jan 31, 2012 11:24 AM CST reply actions  

I think a RS year

to learn the intricacies of 11-man football is almost required.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 31, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

I bet he doesn't RS unless he gets hurt in preseason.

I have a feeling he plays on special teams.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 31, 2012 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Special teams for sure

He really doesn’t look much slower than Coker. With a year or two in the strength & conditioning program he could play runningback. Possibly cut a little weight would add some speed. If the coaches got crazy they could use more than one runningback but that’s probably wishful thinking.

impossible is nothing

by RGates on Jan 31, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it's rather uncommon

for guys to come to college/mature and get smaller

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 31, 2012 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

That's just because Bret Bielema kept stealing his lunches.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 31, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

It's also a case where

Ball had come to college, continued to mature physically, gotten bigger (see previous + ate too much) and then had to cut weight. It’s one thing to cut weight after you’ve been in the program, put on mass and then sculpt down from there rather than assuming that a (presumably) as-yet not fully matured 17-18 year old is just going to be able to come in and drop 10-15 pounds immediately.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 31, 2012 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

It seems like he'd be able to cut the high school/baby fat weight more easily, though.

No?

"I’m not going to comment on anything beyond where I’ve been so far." - Gary Barta

by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 31, 2012 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

True

but they also tend to put on much more weight when they add muscle (get Doyle-ized). The short of it is, I highly doubt that this kid’s future is at RB. And that’s ok, there are a lot of places he can contribute (I hope).

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 31, 2012 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

After listening to this week's On Iowa pod, I'm not sure there's a lot of extra weight for Meier to add

I feel like they said Meier was already benching something like 385 pounds. If he’s already working out at levels like that, is there really much room for him to grow?

by The Mexican't on Jan 31, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

385? Balls.

Das Stochern gewinnt.

by Blackheartnopants on Jan 31, 2012 1:00 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Its Iowa, you lift weights until you die or get Rhabdo

A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves

by waterboy31321 on Jan 31, 2012 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Bench press is only one part of the finished product

You’ve still got calves, hammys, thighs, glutes, core, lower back, and neck. (Left out upper back and arms because if you can do 385 you’ve got a developed upper back and arms.)

Also, Iowa doesn’t really focus on standard “static” bench presses. They incorporate dynamic and explosive lifts. What I like about the 385 is it suggests he’s a hard worker in the weight room. He could provide a wonderful canvas for Doyle to work with.

by Ferentzfever on Jan 31, 2012 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup. Get that boy on some HANG CLEANS

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by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 31, 2012 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Tabor, Iowa?

I thought you said “Tibor.”

Ahh, Tibor, how many times have you saved my butt. The Simpsons video

by Lukateake on Jan 31, 2012 1:18 PM CST reply actions  

I work like a Japanese beaver!

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 31, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Puh-lease, Ross.

I’m came by your cubicle three times today. Twice you were sleeping and once you were readying the latest Gone Baby Gone post.

by Lukateake on Jan 31, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

That's scarily accurate, actually.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 31, 2012 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Marge, I'm used to being passed over by people for promotions

Friends, coworkers, Tibor. But now you???

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by therealCatnuts on Jan 31, 2012 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL at that video

he looks like a giant out there

seriously?

by PSD on Jan 31, 2012 1:50 PM CST reply actions  

I watched Meier play in the state semis and finals

All I kept thinking to myself was this guy can play at the highest level. He’d be unstoppable at a program like UNI or South Dakota. What that video doesn’t show you is his agility. Yeah he can run through tackles and he has a monster stiff-arm. But he has really good lateral movement for how big he is and once he gets to the second level of the defense he’s really tough to bring down. He single handedly beat Murray in that 8-man championship game…

by McNutterButter on Jan 31, 2012 3:22 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I didn't even think about him playin defense though, Ross

This kid is a beast. Can’t wait to see what Doyle can do with him.

by McNutterButter on Jan 31, 2012 3:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Interesting.

We’re used to big-time players coming from very small schools in basketball. Raef LaFrentz and Sam Okey both came from very small schools within a half hour of my own very small school, not to mention how hard it must be to find guys like Serge Ibaka or Enes Kanter. But football recruiters tend to focus very little energy on small programs. Perhaps it’s the difference in raw talent needed in basketball vs football, but I have to think there’s a ton of unmined gems out there in very small schools.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 31, 2012 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Probably has something to do with

The perpetuity of AAU events vs. summer camps, the amount of physical development that actually goes on once they’re on campus compared to b-ball, just off the top of my head.

"I’m not going to comment on anything beyond where I’ve been so far." - Gary Barta

by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 31, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Have seen him live numerous times

He’d have no problem being a star at Harlan, Solon, or even many 4A schools. Physically very gifted and dominated 8-man. His work ethic is right up there as well. Will be a project for a few years, but he can be a contributor at Iowa.

by Matt Hays on Jan 31, 2012 8:51 PM CST reply actions  

SBNation is right. My nephew played against him and I have watched him all four years of high school. A friend of mine coaches at Fremont Mills and he said he has never seen anybody work as hard as him. Also, the leap to 11 man shouldn’t be a problem. FM dropped to 8 man Meiers junior year, so he actually had to get used to playing with three less people on the field. If you saw him in person you would be impressed. There is no baby fat on him and he could probably gain another 40 pounds and be a beast. Also, he benches 400 pounds and broke all lifting records at his high school. Those records interestingly were held by his dad.

by essexhawk on Feb 1, 2012 7:52 AM CST reply actions  

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