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The Epilogue, Part 5: The Special Teams

So long, JB.  (Photo by Justin K. Aller/Getty Images)


Departures, in Order of Importance

1. Eric Guthrie, P; Replaced All-Big Ten punter Ryan Donahue with solid results: his 41.7 yard average was good for 47th best in the nation and 2nd best in the Big Ten (behind Nebraska). He pinned 18 kicks inside the 20-yard line and he (and his coverage) forced 22 fair catches. There was a bad punt here and there, but for the most part Eric Guthrie did quite an admirable job in his one year as starting punter.

2. Jordan Bernstine, KR; When healthy, Bernstine was Iowa's leading kick returner and he too had pretty solid numbers: 30 returns for 713 yards and a 23.8 yard average, good for 7th best among returners in the Big Ten. (As a team, Iowa was also 7th best in the Big Ten in kickoff returns.) Although he came close a few times (most notably against Indiana) Bernstine never broke a return for a touchdown.

What's Left, Also in Order of Importance

1. Mike Meyer, K; Meyer regressed from his efforts a year ago (he made 14/17 kicks in 2010, but just 14/20 in 2011), with a particularly ghastly showing against Minnesota (0/2, including a 24-yard miss). He started brightly, making his first seven kicks in a row in 2011, but faltered after that, making just seven of his remaining thirteen field goal attempts. His kickoffs also underwelmed: he had the fewest touchabcks of any kicker in the league (4) and his 63.1 yard average was good for just 7th in the conference. On the bright side, no blocked or missed extra points (44/44) this year!

2. Jonny Mullings, P; So long as Kirk Ferentz remains head coach here, field position figures to remain a critical part of the equation for Iowa, so having a quality punter will remain important. Mullings is the most experienced option available, having redshirted in 2010 and sat behind Guthrie last year. Unfortunately, the early reviews of our favorite Aussie heartthrob have not been kind; his release is, by most accounts, painfully slow -- which is a recipe for block city in actual football games.

3. Micah Hyde, PR; Hyde was Iowa's "leading" punt returner in 2011, with 13 returns for 106 yards. Yes -- 13 whole returns, basically one a game. No wonder Iowa finished dead last in the Big Ten in opponent punting. Hyde had a long return of 30 (in the UL-Monroe game, I believe), so his other 12 returns went for a whopping 76 yards. Mind you, as uninspiring as Hyde's numbers were, they were still far from the worst in the Big Ten (his 8.2 yard average was actually tied for 4th best in the conference). Of course, as that opponent punting stat hints at, the biggest problem with Hyde wasn't the punts he actually tried to return -- it was the ones he just let sail overhead, gifting the other team a few extra yards on each kick. I was all-in on the Hyde4PuntReturner idea last fall (his interception returns suggested the sort of skills that would fit well at punt returner), but after last season's yawn-inducing results, I wouldn't be opposed to a new face back there in 2012.

Star-divide

4. Kevonte Martin-Manley, KR; KMM was Iowa's second-best kick returner after Bernstine in 2011; he had four returns for 82 yards (20.5 yard average). I suppose that makes him the nominal favorite to be the top kick returner in 2012, although I'm not sure that means much given the tiny sample size. I wouldn't mind seeing a little more of what he can do in the return game in 2012, though.

5. Keenan Davis, KR; Davis was Iowa's third-leading kick returner in 2011, although he had very little to do back there -- just 4 returns for 78 yards (19.5 yard average). Whether he'll remain back there in 2012 as he ascends to the WR1 role on the depth chart is unclear, but so far there's been little to suggest that he's a difference-maker in the kick return game (he also returned 9 kicks for 175 yards, a 19.4 yard average, in 2010).

6. Jordan Canzeri, KR; Canzeri was also Iowa's third-leading kick returner in 2011 with identical stats to Davis -- 4 returns for 78 yards (19.5 yard average). On the other hand, Canzeri's skillset seems well-suited to kick returns and four returns isn't much of a sample size. It would be a little unusual to see the likely RB1 also be a starting kickoff returner (although I remember Fred Russell doing it at times), but since next year figures to be a RB-by-committee year anyway (unless, of course, we just give Barkley Hill 20-25 carries a game and make him A-Rob 2.0), it's unlikely his projected RB workload would prevent him from being a potential factor in the return game.

7. Marshall Koehn, K; The only one of Iowa's five projected kickers/punters not expected to be on scholarship in 2012, Koehn is a preferred walk-on from local prep powerhouse Solon who joined a year ago and redshirted in 2011. He's supposed to have a booming leg (he had touchbacks on 45 of 82 kickoffs as a HS senior) and should be an option to handle kickoff duties at least, although with Meyer's inconsistency in 2011, placekicking duties could be up for grabs as well.

8. Connor Kornbrath, K/P; We typically haven't profiled incoming freshmen in this section of the Epilogue series, but I'll make an exception here since 1) prospective punters don't seem like much of a risk to renege on a verbal commitment and 2) there's an excellent chance that Kornbrath is our starting punter in 2012. As noted above, Mullings is the most experienced punter on campus, but his advantage there could well be negated by that slow kicking motion; if Mullings isn't able to solve that flaw in his game, I don't think it will take much for Kornbrath to establish himself as the starting punter.

9. Damon Bullock, KR; Bullock saw limited action as a kick returner in 2011 (2 returns for 43 yards, or a 21.5 yard average), but he figures to have as good a shot as anyone to get regular kick return action in 2012.

10. Jordan Cotton / Don Shumpert / Torrey Campbell / Jordan Lomax, PR/KR; If it wasn't already clear by now, it should be: the returner gigs should be pretty wide open in 2012. Hyde didn't cover himself in glory at PR and no one has stood out at KR, either, meaning there should be opportunities aplenty for guys who can reliably field the ball (the most important skill) and run well after the catch. We don't know much about any of these guys in the returner context, but they're speedy guys and many of them had return experience in HS. They've got a shot.

11. John Wienke, QB/P; Don't laugh -- there's a good chance he would have punted in a game in 2011 if Guthrie had gotten injured and depending on the progress (and health) of Mullings and Kornbrath, he might find himself the last man standing at P in 2012. Hey, it's not as if he's likely to get many reps at QB2.

12. Trent Mossbrucker, K; As of now, Mossbrucker is still on the team (and on scholarship), so for the sake of being complete, I'll list him here. But considering that he's basically been locked in a proverbial closet since the early part of the 2010 season and hasn't been able to get a whiff of action despite Meyer's occasional struggles, I wouldn't bet on him seeing the field again in 2012.

Three Signs of Hope

1. Hey, Kaeding struggled too. We remember Kaeding for his Groza Award-winning brilliance in his junior year (as well as his equally brilliant, but Groza Award-denied senior year), but it wasn't always "Nate is Great" time during his Iowa tenure. He went 14/22 on field goals as a freshman and 12/16 as a sophomore; in fact, through two years Mike Meyer has slightly better numbers than Kaeding: 28/37 to 26/38. College kickers tend to get better with more experience, so perhaps the growing pains we've endured from Meyer in 2010 and 2011 will pay off in fine seasons in 2012 and 2013.

2. We're due. This is, admittedly, not the most statistically sound or intellectually compelling reason. But isn't it possible that after multiple years of average or worse special teams play, Iowa rediscovers its special teams brilliance in 2012? Meyer drills field goals reliably, Kornbrath/Mullings pin opposing teams deep, a few players emerge as dynamite return men and, hell, we even remember how to block a kick again. I mean, it could happen, right?

3. ??? Look, I got nothing. Stats, recent history, and returning experience don't give us a whole lot of room for optimism when it comes to special teams. Blind faith is just about all we've got right now.

Three Reasons for Panic

1. These are not new problems. Kickoff coverage has been an issue for several years. Anemic punt returns are nothing new. Outside of DJK's efforts in 2009 and 2010, kickoff returns have been pretty average (or worse) as well. Missteps in the placekicking game are also nothing new and onside kicks and fake field goals and punts have hurt Iowa on several occasions over the past few seasons. 2011 wasn't an aberration in terms of special teams play, it was just more of the same below-average special teams play that we've become accustomed to from Iowa lately.

2. Inexperienced punting is not winning. Over the last few years, Iowa has had the benefit of experience at the punter position; Donahue shook off an occasionally rocky freshman season to become a (mostly) reliable and deadly punter in his final three years, often flipping field position for Iowa. Guthrie had the benefit of learning behind Donahue for several years, and while he lacked game reps before 2011, he had a lot of practice experience to fall back on. Entering 2012, Iowa doesn't have anyone with significant game reps or practice experience to turn to, just a redshirt sophomore, a true freshman, and a senior who spends most of his time as a back-up QB. Punting could be a bit of an adventure this year.

3. Goddamn onside kicks. Did you know Iowa was the only team in the Big Ten to allow an opponent to recover an onside kick? (They also recovered three other onside attempts from their opponents, so it wasn't all bad news on this front, but still.) Iowa's issues with "surprise" onside kicks and fake field goals and punts is twofold: they remain far too vulnerable to having their opponents use those plays against them as well as far too conservative themselves to properly exploit those types of plays against opponents. For a team like Iowa that spends so much time living in the margins and playing so many close games, special teams plays can be a critical swing factor and our inability to make big special teams plays in our favor has been (and likely will continue to be) very costly.

Three Things That Could Change Everything

1. AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE OI OI OI. Maybe Mullings gets his slow release issues sorted out and is able to start booming punts and all of a sudden Iowa has its own version of LSU's Brad Wing (another Aussie import whose seemingly cannon-fired punts changed many a game for the Tigers).

2. We find the 02-04 pages of the special teams playbook. Since there's more than one special teams coach and because special teams itself comprises so many different moving parts, it's hard to point the finger of blame at just one or two specific individuals for the recent unimpressive performances. Suffice to say, it's been a collective effort. But once upon a time Iowa had good special teams (most notably, 2002-2004) and the coaches who've been in charge during the recent mediocrity were also in charge then. Perhaps they can find the pages of the playbook that taught how to block kicks, make big returns, and turn special teams from a disadvantage into a game-changing advantage.

3. Someone emerges at KR/PR. Given the difficulties the Iowa offense has moving the ball at times, any help they can get from the return units would be much appreciated. Even if whoever emerges at punt returner and kick returner isn't able to actually take returns back for touchdowns (although that would be very, very nice), if they can just reliably field kicks and get 5-10 more yards than we've been getting out of our return men, then it would give the offense some welcome relief. Hopefully a few of the dozen options Iowa has in the return game emerge as genuine threats this year.

Dartboard Guess

More of the same. I hope I'm wrong, but there's just nothing tangible around which to base a belief that Iowa's special teams will turn into a dynamic, game-changing unit in 2012. I think the placekicking will be a little bit more consistent in 2012, but the punting will be a little less consistent -- and we'll still struggle to get touchbacks in kickoffs, while kickoff coverage will remain mediocre. Kick and punt returns will be slightly better, but still nothing remarkable. We won't block any kicks, either, and we'll concede a fake (field goal or punt) to someone. Third time will be the charm on those "surprise" onside kicks, though.

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WE NEED A SPECIAL TEAMS COACH

(let’s just get that one out of the way)

BORK BORK BORK

by Ill Jukes on Jan 25, 2012 2:04 PM CST reply actions  

Yes

I am hoping that a reshuffling of the staff is a major reason for the lengthy hiring process, and we’re gonna find out that one of the position coaches is going to be a dedicated special teams coordinator or some such.

Silly me.

I am drunk.., or I wouldn't be talking to you.

by codenameduchess on Jan 25, 2012 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

It's not going to happen

You only get so many assistants, and almost no one has a dedicated special teams coach

by NorseHawk on Jan 25, 2012 5:25 PM CST up reply actions  

That may be

But the fact remains that the two guys who are in charge of ST now are not exactly doing a bang up job, at least as far as on-field results go. Both the OC and DC coach a position in addition to their coordinator duties, so I’m not sure the manpower issue is the determining factor in the equation. Something needs to change in the ST, and I hope it starts with a renewed dedication to that part of the program and an improvement in coaching this off season.

I am drunk.., or I wouldn't be talking to you.

by codenameduchess on Jan 25, 2012 8:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Norse is correct,

but it could be a Special Teams and LBs or something, since both involve tackling?

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2012 8:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Illinois had a dedicated special teams coach this past year

until they fired him.

"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags

"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 25, 2012 9:04 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

LMFTFY

Illinois had a dedicated special teams coach this past year until they fired him.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2012 9:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Wait, Iowa was the only BIG team to allow an onside kick recovery?

Seems like there’s not a lot of opportunity for us in performing onside kicks, then.

Unless we’re playing ourselves. But, fakes, yeah, I see you.

by nhradar on Jan 25, 2012 2:17 PM CST reply actions  

I think "surprise" onside kicks are grossly underutilized by all teams.

That’s what made Sean Peyton’s call in the Super Bowl a few years ago so brilliant, or whatshisface’s call in the Minny game in 2010. (Kill’s onside call in the 2011 game was less brilliant because it should have been more forseeable based on the in-game situations as well as the specific history of Iowa-Minnesota games — i.e., THEY DID IT THE YEAR BEFORE.)

But this gets to the same point that coaches should go for it on fourth down a lot more than they do — the conventional wisodm on these things says to be conservative and most fans/pundits won’t rake you over the coals for following conventional wisdom that doesn’t work out (whereas they will if you break with conventional wisdom and fail).

Fakes are definitely something we could utilize better, too. They can be huge plays. The last time I remember Iowa even trying a fake was the hilariously bad fake field goal attempt in the 2010 Orange Bowl. I honestly think the last time Iowa ran a successful fake was the fake field goal Kaeding ran in during the 03 Ohio State game. Nine fucking years ago. Plus, just imagine how successful the first few attempts could be just based on our reputation as being stodgy and ultra-conservative. NO ONE would expect a fake out of us in a million years.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 25, 2012 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

The 2011 onside was especially egregious on KF's part

They pretty much had to do it. With 7 or so minutes left and Coker above 200 yards, the prospects of them getting the ball back with enough time were iffy.

I agree that we under-utilize them given our conservative tendencies, and I think you’re right – our last successful fake was 2003 Ohio State. And even that was aided by a blatantly obvious holding on one of the blockers (Tony Jackson I think).

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Jan 25, 2012 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Holding? What holding?

I didn’t see a flag.

/whistles innocently

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 25, 2012 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I feel like

if the opponent is using professional players, then the Hawks should be able to commit holding with no flag once per quarter.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

They weren't professionals

they just had their tats done by a professional (gratis)

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 25, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Totally random thought only partially related to your post:

Every special teams play is like a 20-car pileup. There’s much happening at once, specials seem like the kind of place where you should fudge with the rules a bit.

Das Stochern gewinnt.

by Blackheartnopants on Jan 25, 2012 3:46 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Yeah, maybe.

Although, it felt like I saw holding or illegal blocks (clipping, blocks in the back) a fair amount this year as I was watching college and pro games. Not so much during Iowa games.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2012 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

KOK has requested that we save them up.

In 2018 KF is gonna go full HAYDEN mode.

A FAKE FOR YOU! A FAKE FOR YOU! A FAKE FOR YOU!!! A FAKE FOR YOU! FAKE? HERE’S ONE.

"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
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"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 25, 2012 9:16 PM CST up reply actions  

If we ever have a year

where we have a really shitty kicker, I could support that strategy.

I don’t think I want Iowa to start using the weird swinging gate and other gimmick kick formations, though (you know, the ones where half the team runs across the field just before the snap).

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2012 9:18 PM CST up reply actions  

BUT IT'S ANOTHER THING THEY HAVE TO GAMEPLAN FOR THAT WEEK

/thatguy’d

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by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 25, 2012 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Is Weinke even going to be QB #2?

with a Juco QB coming in and fan favorite young QB from a high school national championship team right there, i would be suprised of he is even our #3 QB

i mean, yeah, he may be #2 on paper all season, but i dont see him being the real #2 if Vandy goes down for the count.

"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts

by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 25, 2012 2:37 PM CST reply actions  

My guess is Wienke will be listed as QB2 in the 2-deeps

at least to start the year. Kind of like Jason White was the perennial #2 RB that wasn’t at all the #2. The plan is to redshirt the JUCO QB coming in (according to him). So if Vandy goes down (or hopefully there will be a few games where we can get some garbage time in for QB2), who knows what will happen. I’m almost expecting Ruddock to come in for that scenario.

by Captain n Diet Coker on Jan 25, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Unfortunately

I don’t think the coaches are/will plan for that contingency (VDB getting injured) at all. They didn’t in 2009.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 25, 2012 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope so

I really do

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 25, 2012 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

they certainly didn't game plan

for JVB having “issues” during games.

"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody

by The Bacon Explosion on Jan 25, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Not getting him into the games I can understand

Not getting him reps during practice is inexcusable bordering on willful incompetence

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 25, 2012 7:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

In the week after the jNW game in 2009

Morehouse had an article where he interviewed VDB as well as the coaches, and they all admitted that he got very few practice reps.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 25, 2012 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

In fairness, we were undefeated until then.

Tough to complain too much about playing time/practice rep arrangements when you’re 9-0.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

No

That shows nothing but an inability to plan for a reasonably foreseeable contingency and it probably cost us the jNW game as VDB basically did nothing as a passer for the rest of that game.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 26, 2012 9:06 AM CST up reply actions  

yep.

you don’t prepare for the worst case scenario after it happens. You have to prepare for it before it happens. Or something.

meh

by tyger1147 on Jan 26, 2012 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Probably depends on what type of team we have to be.

If we still have some running game, I’d think Weinke is the #2. If we’re running the Drew Tate offense, then maybe Rudock?

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

A question, if I may, for Ross...

How tempted were you to just post a pic of a dumpster fire for this roundup?

I keed, I keed ~ Iowa special teams were a meth lab fire, not a dumpster fire.

Das Stochern gewinnt.

by Blackheartnopants on Jan 25, 2012 2:39 PM CST via Android app reply actions  

I think they were just a meth lab chemical spill

They stunk to high heaven like cat piss but they didn’t actually cause major property damage.

by PackerHawk on Jan 25, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Chemical spill did catch fire in Minnesota

Some gophers chewed through some wires, which provided the spark.

One W was destroyed. No insurance.

by hawkfan340 on Jan 25, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

"Didn't cause major property damage."

Bus window on line 2.

"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags

"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 25, 2012 9:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Wait, did Derby play on special teams?

Was there a meth lab in that bus? I thought it was sorority girls? Are you saying that ST would have been better with MOAR DERBY?!

Besides, bus window damage = minor property damage, bus meets Truckzilla=major property damage. (Kluginator, Derby-Truckzilla photoshop would be awesome, fyi)

by PackerHawk on Jan 25, 2012 10:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Harrumph!

I have journalistic integrity, sir, and I would never stoop to such low-hanging fruit.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 25, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

So you're saying

the dumpster fire was already used and you couldn’t find a decent picture of a tire fire?

"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer

by Flakbait on Jan 25, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

The next BHGP shirt:

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2012 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

NO COMMENT!

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 25, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

You mean this isn't good enough?

"West Texas seems to be full of fake boobs providing a comfortable shade for well-developed pot bellies" - Lycurgus (06/24/2011)

by BStylin Hawkye on Jan 25, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I would have gone with a SIMPSONS reference, personally.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 25, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Thought about it.

Had that url copied first.

"West Texas seems to be full of fake boobs providing a comfortable shade for well-developed pot bellies" - Lycurgus (06/24/2011)

by BStylin Hawkye on Jan 25, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep, that's the one I liked

when I did a GIS.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

The tire fire jump

in Simpsons hit and run was probably my favorite single bit in the entire game. Even if I kept on dying there. Man, I wish I had an xbox.

by nhradar on Jan 25, 2012 8:52 PM CST up reply actions  

On Nate Kaeding

That was such amazing horse shit that he didn’t get back-to-back Groza’s. I mean, Mike Nugent was good, but seriously, Kaeding was the best kicker in college those two years.

/Ragefest

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Jan 25, 2012 2:53 PM CST reply actions  

To this day

I remember Ivan Maisel at ESPN saying (half-joking) that Congress should investigate the crime of Kaeding not winning back-to-back Grozas

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 25, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I recall that it wasn't even Nugent who beat Nate out for it....

….but some kicker from Ole Miss, who then went out and blew a big FG or three in his bowl game. At the time, when Nate didn’t win the Groza, I was in utter disbelief. Still am, actually.

by The Director on Jan 25, 2012 6:03 PM CST up reply actions  

You're right.

Nate at the end of 02, Jonathan Nichols (Ole Miss) in 03, and Nugent in 04.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Groza_Award

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2012 8:33 PM CST up reply actions  

the tOSU take on the equation

(actually the dead schembechler;s)

WHEN ADAM & EVE WERE TOLD TO GO THEY GOT THE BOOT FROM MIKE NUGENT’S TOE
GOD’S INSTRUMENT OF JOY & WOE
JOHN THE BAPTIST WAS REALLY GREAT BUT HE NEVER BEAT MICHIGAN OR EVEN STATE
HE KEPT HIS TOE BUT LOST HIS HEAD TO FATE SINGING
GOD GAVE NUGENT’S TOE TO YOU, GAVE NUGENT’S TOE TO YOU
GAVE NUGENT’S TOE TO OSU

WHEN SODOM & GOMORRAH WENT ASTRAY GOD SENT A VENGEFUL TOE THEIR WAY
TURNED LOT’S WIFE TO SALT SHE DIDN’T LOOK AWAY
THE FATHER THE SON THE HOLY GHOST NONE OF THEM EVER SPLIT THE UPRIGHT POST
NOR DID ANY OF THE OTHER HEAVENLY HOST
AND THE FAITHFUL SING
GOD GAVE NUGENT’S TOE TO YOU, GAVE NUGENT’S TOE TO YOU
GAVE NUGENT’S TOE TO OSU
GOD GAVE NUGENT’S TOE TO YOU, GAVE NUGENT’S TOE TO YOU
TO EVERYONE HE GAVE A GAME TO BE WON
GAVE NUGENT’S TOE TO OSU

and while i am at it
FUCK MICHIIIIIGAN

go Hawks

Her noblesse exceeded her oblige

by OhioHawk on Jan 25, 2012 8:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow.

I always knew fOSU was a bit self-important about football.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2012 8:55 PM CST up reply actions  

they have and interesting rep

find out more bout them here
most of their lyricsa are too profane to even post here

Her noblesse exceeded her oblige

by OhioHawk on Jan 25, 2012 9:16 PM CST up reply actions  

and their planned triubte to Tressel rock opera

from the afore linked site
The opera is seen as one piece of music with more than a dozen movements with each lasting well under a minute so the entire opus should clock in at no more than several minutes. Working titles of the song sections include, “A Sick One About Some Foul Play,” “Jimmy, He Can’t Hear You,” “Wizard of Pigskin,” “Song of The Rivalry,” “Wake Me Up When The Season’s Here,” “The Short Trial” and “Outside the Shoe.”

Her noblesse exceeded her oblige

by OhioHawk on Jan 25, 2012 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Rock opera, huh?

Being that it’s OSU, I half-expect it to look like Rocky Horror with those anal-buckeye-nut necklaces.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2012 9:21 PM CST up reply actions  

ya mean

ya get grandkids with dog collars?

Her noblesse exceeded her oblige

by OhioHawk on Jan 25, 2012 9:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I laugh at that commercial every time.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2012 10:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Good call, thanks for the clarification.

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Jan 26, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep, that gets rec'd

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Jan 25, 2012 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

No mention of Nico Law

he was very stout on kick coverage duty this past year. Net yardage is what counts and we need some batshit crazy guys to totally blow-up the return guys. Nico was close to being that guy last year.

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by Kluginator on Jan 25, 2012 3:11 PM CST reply actions  

Nico was definitely a missile last year.

Excited to see him put the hurt on some guys next year. I think he’ll be a hard hitting DB when his time comes.

by mikjones24 on Jan 25, 2012 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Is it wrong that I'm kind of excited to get to hear him speak?

At least insofar that he’s now past his freshman year when Ferentz doesn’t allow the players to speak to the media. I kinda wish he still did his radio show (yeah, I know, it’s probably not allowed). That was very entertaining on Signing Day last year, especially with the signed players calling in. So awesomely surreal.

by Captain n Diet Coker on Jan 25, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Surreal

and I think it really helped out Iowa in recruiting. The Law was a fervent and vocal supporter of Iowa and worked hard to convince others he knew. I like that kind of kid who is “all in” to the program. That should be encouraged.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 25, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I couldn't think of a good way to quantify coverage units, honestly.

I don’t know of a source that provides just special teams tackles, for instance.

But I agree, he made some good plays for us in coverage last year and hopefully can do the same again. We’ve certainly missed having guys like Greenway, Considine, and Sanders out there on the coverage units.

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by RossWB on Jan 25, 2012 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

BHGP: penetrating into uncharted territory.

/Fire away with the jokes.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I refuse, sir!

But everyone else can commence with the lay-up drill. And I will laugh at its results.

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Jan 25, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

BHGP: popping your interwebs cherry since 2007.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 25, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

BHGP: It's more fun once you get used to it.

"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer

by Flakbait on Jan 25, 2012 3:48 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

BHGP:

Nah, baby, my name ain’t Pierre. But can I borrow your cell-phone?

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2012 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

At least he didn't make a marijuana joke

At least not today. Well at least not in this thread today.

by PackerHawk on Jan 25, 2012 5:10 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

It's HIGH time that he did, though.

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//DrugHouse’d

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by Bucketochicken on Jan 25, 2012 6:36 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I do apologize if I upset you.

At least I didn’t really mention the assault aspect in my lame joke.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2012 8:34 PM CST up reply actions  

BHGP: Her eyes say no,

but her Internet comments say…get the fuck away from me!

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2012 4:00 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

BHGP: The Dessert Fox is on the hunt for some pie.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2012 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Tangent:

UW-Milwaukee and PG Kaylon Williams are presently 2-0 against former-LIckliter-Hawkeye teams. With road trips to Loyola and UWGB still on the schedule.

by PackerHawk on Jan 25, 2012 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

How many Lickliter exiles are there out there?

UWGB has Cougill. Loyola has Payne? Is Tucker out there somewhere?

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 25, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Looks like Tucker was with Winona State.

http://thegazette.com/2011/03/01/former-hawkeye-basketball-player-anthony-tucker-suspended-at-winona-state/

Jeff Peterson is getting about 4 ppg for Florida State.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/36604/jeff-peterson

Certainly Jermain Davis and Jake Kelly are out of eligibility, right? And we’re not counting near-misses like Brust or Cody Larson, right?

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess Tucker is now

at MSU-Moorhead.

Probably has to sit a year due to the transfer from Winona St.

http://www.msumdragons.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=1875&path=mbball

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2012 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

My brother played football there!

"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe

by Brock8144 on Jan 26, 2012 8:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Like this?

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 25, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow.

Please do finish that story.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2012 10:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not sure if I've shortened his arms enough.

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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 25, 2012 11:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Awesome regardless. Also awesome that you're still considering his arm length.

I thought maybe he was rampaging because of all the recent OCB closures. Not sure how the Green Bay locations are faring, but the property owners should be worried.

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by codenameduchess on Jan 25, 2012 11:20 PM CST up reply actions  

beat me to it

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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 25, 2012 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

BHGP: Master of their domains

"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe

by Brock8144 on Jan 26, 2012 8:59 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Special teams

Here is another long standing problem with the football team that a $4 million dollar coach has failed to correct or maybe even adresss. It is truly embarassing to have so many successful fake kicks and onside kicks used against you, year in and out, and yet nothing is changed or done about it. Then to have the consistent kicking coverage problems crop up, year after year, and again nothing changes. Just exactly what is Ferentz being paid $4 million for, if not to get these kinds of failures within his program fixed?

by Mbchawk on Jan 25, 2012 3:21 PM CST reply actions  

Thats still nearly $1 million per unsuccessfully defended fake/onside!!

I didn’t do well in accounting for non-business majors, though. Someone Should check my math.

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by codenameduchess on Jan 25, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

if they can just reliably field kicks

- let’s just start here

get 5-10 more yards than we’ve been getting out of our return men

- feels like one of those “If I won the lottery I would…” thought exercises.

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by The Bacon Explosion on Jan 25, 2012 3:55 PM CST reply actions  

I feel like we could get another 5 yards per return

out of our returns. Particularly our punt returns (but, as you say: if they can just reliably field kicks).

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2012 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

First,

as Ross notes, you actually have to field the punt before you can ever hope to return it.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 25, 2012 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

We would easily up return yards by 10-15 if

Micah Hyde would just catch the ball and kneel down.

"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants

by Kluginator on Jan 26, 2012 7:51 AM CST up reply actions  

CATCH THE FUCKING BALL MICAH HYDE

Sorry, had to get that out of my system, it’d been awhile

by NorseHawk on Jan 25, 2012 5:27 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

He caught it pretty well

When he was fair catching it. I don’t recall muffed punts being an issue, just a distinct aversion to actually attempting a return.

Fair catching is winning?

by PackerHawk on Jan 25, 2012 5:39 PM CST up reply actions  

He can't catch when facing the sun.

In Kinnick, when facing south, Micah went basically oh-fer. He turned and ran away from every single punt that was kicked on a sunny day—he just lost them all in the sun.

We need a different option back there. Like a Canzeri option.

Also, is Mullings even still in the country? I don’t even think he’s attending Iowa anymore, so I don’t expect much hang-time from his kicks this year, nor for his kicking motion time to improve, either.

by The Director on Jan 25, 2012 6:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, can anyone clear this up?

I distinctly remember hearing that Mullings left the team in like August. I sincerely hope he didn’t, but I’m positive I read that at some point.

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by KilometersDavis on Jan 25, 2012 6:27 PM CST up reply actions  

According to the 2011 Roster

15 Jonny Mullings 6-3/210 P RS FR Canberra, Australia (Ottumwa (Iowa) HS)
No articles mentioning him leaving via Google.

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by KF Bubblegum on Jan 26, 2012 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

I cant get mad at him for running away

i would rather him run away then try to catch it and muff it.

we need either Canzeri or Bullock to be returning those though. defensive players should never be your best option at returning things unless they are prodigys

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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 25, 2012 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

As a 49ers fan,

I have to second this:

i would rather him run away then try to catch it and muff it.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2012 8:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't we have a 3rd string WR that can catch and run?

Not to bring up a sore subject…..but none of our running backs are experienced at kickoff returns. Let alone running the ball. Hell, some of them haven’t even been in a huddle. Let’s have Staggs or Cotton run the kickoffs back.

by hawkinsandmelrose on Jan 25, 2012 9:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe,

although, you usually want a RB back there because they are usually a bit shorter, and more shifty.

If you have a 6-3, somewhat skinny WR there, he might be “easily” tackled or hurt.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2012 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Although you touched on it, I think the importance of getting touchbacks out of a kick-off is understated.

Having a kicker that can put the ball in the endzone, or at least inside the 5 yard line allows coverage to do their jobs properly and probably does wonders for Iowa’s averages. Until that happens, coverage will probably continue to suck.

by The Mexican't on Jan 25, 2012 6:32 PM CST reply actions  

I totally agree

The worst thing you can do at the D1 level is have high short kicks. More times than not, the coverage team will run themselves past the play. Having a kicker that can consistently kick touch backs would be huge for a team like iowa that plays the field position game.

by eff bielema on Jan 25, 2012 8:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, and that was the other thing Ross left out

Mossbrucker got in there a few times, sometimes on onside/specialty kick duty and, I think, once or twice to try to boot it. Just, uh, didn’t work.

by nhradar on Jan 25, 2012 8:55 PM CST up reply actions  

He was in there

for that inexplicable pooch kick/failed onsides versus Michigan at the end of the 1st half.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 25, 2012 9:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah, yes, he did see action a few times.

I guess they let him out of the closet then.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 26, 2012 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Yay!

We just got fish (sigh) & the little guy & I picked out 2 beautiful yellow ones with black fins. Their names are Hawkeye & Hayden.

The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.

by HawkeyeGirleye on Jan 25, 2012 9:58 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

even cooler !!!!

Her noblesse exceeded her oblige

by OhioHawk on Jan 25, 2012 9:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Gracias

The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.

by HawkeyeGirleye on Jan 25, 2012 10:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Awesome

But it’s gonna be real sad when it dies.

(My dog as a kid was named Herky.)

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by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 25, 2012 9:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry, that was a real Debbie Downer.

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by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 25, 2012 10:08 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

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