We Must Break You Is All About Monkeys On Backs
(EDIT: Just use this thread as an open thread for the Iowa-OSU dual. - RB)
I love this picture so much.
Of men and monkeys. The last time Iowa lost a dual meet in Big Ten competition? February 18, 2007, to then-#1 Minnesota. Since then they've run off 39 consecutive dual meet wins against B1G foes, including a 4-0 mark this weekend. But Iowa's two duals this weekend, a Friday night roadtrip to Ohio State and a Sunday afternoon delight against at Penn State will be two very stiff tests for Iowa's flawless B1G dual meet mark. One of the things that makes these dual meets so intriguing is the very different ways that each opponent poses a threat to Iowa. Ohio State will challenge Iowa's strengths, while Penn State will challenge their weaknesses.
Ohio State has four top-ten wrestlers, but three of them (133, 141, and 174) are at weights where Iowa also has top-ten wrestlers. Iowa's challenge in the Ohio State dual will be twofold: is their strength stronger than Ohio State's strength? And is their weakness less weak than Ohio State's weakness? (That phrasing was a little awkward, but you catch my drift.) This dual presents a huge number of 50-50 matches, which makes it very difficult to predict the outcome -- but should also make for a dramatic, exciting dual meet.
Penn State, on the other hand, is the funhouse mirror image of Iowa; where our strengths lie in the lower weights, theirs lie in the middle and upper weights. Iowa has three wrestlers ranked in the top-3 from 125-141; Penn State has three wrestlers ranked in the top-2 from 165-184. Iowa figures to be heavy favorites at three weights (125, 133, and 141), while Penn State figures to be heavy favorites at four weights (149, 165, 174, 184). That leaves three weights without a heavy favorite (157, 197, HWT); the outcome at those weights will be vital in deciding the dual and any upsets could be a debilitating blow for either side. And then there's the matter of bonus points. Iowa's recent duals against their other major rival (Oklahoma State) have been marked by a lack of bonus points, but that doesn't figure to be the case on Sunday. McD and Ramos have been bonus point machines this year (McD has bonus points in 16/19 wins, Ramos has bonus points in 14/19 wins), but Penn State has their own bonus point machines: David Taylor (bonus in 17/18 wins), Ed Ruth (16/19 wins), Frank Molinaro (15/19 wins), and Quentin Wright (14/16 wins). Taylor and Ruth are facing top-ten ranked opponents (though that hasn't necessarily stopped them from getting bonus points in the past), but there is a lot of potential for bonus points in this match. It will be critical for Iowa to (a) make the most of their own chances to get bonus points and (b) limit Penn State's chances to get bonus points.
Of course, there's also the matter of some notable monkeys on the backs of Iowa's opponents. Ohio State coach Tom Ryan has never beaten Iowa -- but that puts him in standard company among OSU coaches. Iowa's won 34 straight dual meets against Ohio State and has an overall record of 36-2 against the Buckeyes. Hello, domination. But the more publicized monkey is sure to be the one on Cael Sanderson's back -- he's 0-9 against Iowa (and Tom Brands) as a coach. He never beat him at Iowa State (that includes meetings at the National Duals as well as their annual dual showdown) and he hasn't been able to do it at Penn State, either. Penn State fans -- and probably Sanderson, too -- will no doubt remind us that they got the last laught last year by winning the Big Ten and NCAA titles, and they'd be right. But I'm sure that 0-9 mark irritates Sanderson (who's used to the "0" being on the other side of the win-loss record) and he'd love to finally get a dual meet win over Iowa.
For Iowa, the time for screwing around is over -- it's time to get into shape for the season's final home stretch. Shit gets real in terms of the schedule now: they have a pair of top-ten road tests this weekend, then a home dual with Minnesota (also a top-ten team) next week, and close the season with their last remaining lay-up, a home dual with Wisconsin. Then it's time for the National Duals (or "Mat Mayhem," as it's being called) and after that it's time to get ready for the Big Ten Tournament and the NCAA Tournament.
Let's look at each dual...
#3 Iowa (9-1, 4-0 B1G) at #10 Ohio State (8-2, 2-2 B1G)
Friday, January 20, 6pm CT
TV: video.BTN.com/Hawkeye All-Access ($$$)
RADIO: AM-800 KXIC (free) or Hawkeye All-Access ($$$)
125: #2 Matt McDonough (JR, 19-1) vs. #15 Johnni Dijulius (FR, 13-8)
Dijulius is a decent wrestler, but McD has been really ramping up his performance lately. He took apart a top-ten wrestler in jNW's Levi Mele last week, so I don't forsee him having too much difficulty with Dijulius.
McD MAJ DEC Dijulius (Iowa 4-0)
133: #2 Tony Ramos (SO, 19-1) vs. #4 Logan Stieber (RS FR, 18-1)
Here's the showcase match for this dual, as well as a potential Big Ten Tournament final (and NCAA Tournament semifinal?) rematch. Stieber is an excellent wrestler -- he handled Devin Carter (6-1), the only wrestler who's beaten Ramos this year and he's destroyed Purdue's Cashe Quiroga (a solid wrestler) twice. This will be a good test for Tony... but he's been answering every test (sans the Carter match at Midlands) brilliantly so far this year. I can't pick against him now.
Ramos DEC Stieber (Iowa 7-0)
141: #3 Montell Marion (SR, 17-1) vs. #7 Hunter Stieber (FR, 17-3)
This might be the other showcase match of the dual, with the younger Stieber brother taking on the unpredictable Marion. Stieber notched one of the season's most surprising wins (a 6-5 takedown of Michigan's Kellen Russell) earlier in the year, but he was also beaten badly by Nebraska's Jake Sueflohn (10-2), who Marion just beat last week. Marion probably had his best performances of the year last weekend -- that Marion is the one that needs to show up here. I think he will.
Marion DEC Stieber (Iowa 10-0)
149: UN Mike Kelly (RS FR, 12-5) vs. #16 Cam Tessari (FR, 14-5) or UN Alex Gordon (RS FR, 4-7)
This one depends a lot on the match-up; if it's Gordon, Kelly should have an excellent opportunity to add another B1G win to his resume, but if it's Tessari it will be a much tougher proposition. That said, Tessari isn't a worldbeater and his best win on the season is probably his late pin of Minnesota's Dylan Ness last weekend. This will be a very winnable match for Kelly, regardless of who OSU sends out. I just don't have that much confidence in Kelly yet.
Tessari DEC Kelly (Iowa 10-3)
157: UN Nick Moore (RS FR, 10-6) or #2 Derek St. John (SO, 11-0) vs. UN Josh Demas (RS FR, 15-6)
The official Iowa release doesn't list DSJ as being available for this dual, but I've heard that he will be available. Of course, if he does wrestle the question becomes -- how healthy is he? How sharp is he? How good is he now? If he goes, I think he wins a fairly close match. If he doesn't go, I think Moore-Demas is basically a toss-up, but I'd probably have to lean Demas because Moore has struggled so much this year.
DSJ DEC Demas (Iowa 13-3)
165: #6 Mike Evans (RS FR, 18-2) vs. UN Derek Garcia (FR, 10-7)
Here's a rare mismatch in Iowa's favor and it's imperative that Evans takes advantage and takes Garcia behind the proverbial woodshed. I think he'll do enough to get a major.
Evans MAJ DEC Garcia (Iowa 17-3)
174: #9 Ethen Lofthouse (SO, 10-3) vs. #8 Nick Heflin (SO, 18-2)
Yet another primetime showdown in this dual; don't be surprised if we see several rematches from this dual in the semifinals of the Big Ten Tournament. This should be a close match: despite his gaudy record, Heflin doesn't blow out many opponents (only 2/18 wins have included bonus points) and Lofthouse rarely gets steamrolled. Edge to Heflin because he's at home and Lofthouse has looked like a different wrestler away from CHA.
Heflin DEC Lofthouse (Iowa 17-6)
184: UN Jeremy Fahler (RS FR, 8-4) or UN Vinnie Wagner (SR, 6-5) vs. #10 C.J. Magrum (JR, 14-3)
Wagner will try hard and keep it close for a while, but he'll go down in the end.
Magrum DEC Wagner (Iowa 17-9)
197: UN Grant Gambrall (JR, 7-4) or UN Tomas Lira (SO, 8-6) vs. UN Andrew Campolattano (FR, 12-7)
Gambrall can win this match -- it's definitely doable. On the other hand, that means he'll need to be more active than he's been in pretty much every match and actually take more than one shot per match. Let's just say I don't have much faith in that happening right now.
Campolattano DEC Gambrall (Iowa 17-12)
HWT: #12 Bobby Telford (RS FR, 14-4) or UN Blake Rasing (SR, 12-4) vs. #15 Peter Capone (SO, 12-7)
Telford is in the midst of a giant funk (four consecutive losses), which raises the possibility of Brands shaking things up and giving Blake Rasing an opportunity to strut his stuff. Either way, I think Telford either shakes off his losing streak or Rasing picks up a big win for the team.
Telford/Rasing DEC Capone (Iowa 20-12)
This meet could swing OSU's way, though: just flip the results at two of these four weights -- 133, 141, 157, and HWT -- and Iowa picks up a second loss to an OSU team this year. On the other hand, it wouldn't take much to see Iowa wins at 149 or 197, either, which could pave the way for a comfortable Iowa win. This one is hard to call.
#3 Iowa (9-1, 4-0 B1G) vs. #1 Penn State (7-1, 3-1 B1G)
Sunday, January 22, 1pm CT
TV: BTN (same-day delay at 9pm CT); no live video coverage
RADIO: AM-800 KXIC (free), Hawkeye All Access ($$$)
125: #2 Matt McDonough (JR, 19-1) vs. #8 Nico Megauludis (FR, 16-4)
Nico is good and certainly potentially good enough to hold this match to a decision... but McD seems to be on a mission right now. And, as we've seen in the OSU match, he knows how to answer the bell when the pressure is on for him to help out the team. The team needs bonus points from him and I think he'll get them.
McD MAJ DEC Megaludis (Iowa 4-0)
133: #2 Tony Ramos (SO, 19-1) vs. UN Frank Martellotti (SO, 6-1)
A year ago, Ramos scored the biggest win of his young career at this dual in the shocking upset of Andrew Long. Long is gone, though, and his replacement isn't nearly as good. Ramos should be able to pick up bonus points for Iowa here, too.
Ramos MAJ DEC Martellotti (Iowa 8-0)
141: #3 Montell Marion (SR, 17-1) vs. UN Bryan Pearsall (JR, 10-6)
Again: Iowa needs bonus points out of these first three weights to have a chance at winning this dual. The more the better. If the Marion that wrestled this past weekend turns up again here, he should be able to get some for Iowa.
Marion MAJ DEC Pearsall (Iowa 12-0)
149: UN Mike Kelly (RS FR, 12-5) vs. #1 Frank Molinaro (SR, 19-0)
Molinaro has been on a tear this year and looks like the odds-on favorite to win the national title. Kelly has had his struggles since taking over 149 permanently and frankly just holding this to a decision would be an accomplishment. He'll need to wrestle as well as he did against Jake Patascil in the Midlands to have a chance here. I think Molinaro takes him apart, unfortunately.
Molinaro MAJ DEC Kelly (Iowa 12-4)
157: UN Nick Moore (RS FR, 10-6) or #2 Derek St. John (SO, 11-0) vs. #8 Dylan Alton (RS FR, 14-4)
This could be a crucial swing match for the dual. If DSJ can go (and is healthy/sharp/etc.), Iowa will have a great chance to win it -- although it wouldn't be a shock to see Alton pull off the upset (especially if DSJ is, as you might expect, a little rusty). If Moore goes, I think Alton definitely wins. My hunch is DSJ wrestles and wins a very close match.
DSJ DEC Alton (Iowa 15-4)
165: #6 Mike Evans (RS FR, 18-2) vs. #1 David Taylor (SO, 17-0)
Evans is riding high after a triumphant performance against Nebraska's Robert Kokesh last week but he'll need to wrestle the match of his life here (although there's also some talk that Taylor has injured ribs and might not be at full-strength here, which would help Evans a lot) to beat Taylor. The way for him to beat Taylor is to attack quickly and aggressively and ride him hard. I just can't see that happening.
Taylor MAJ DEC Evans (Iowa 15-8)
174: #9 Ethen Lofthouse (SO, 10-3) vs. #2 Ed Ruth (SO, 19-0)
And here's one of the dual's lone ranked v. ranked showdowns. Ethen came achingly close to beating him a year ago at Big Tens, but I have a hard time seeing that happen again right now. Maybe if the dual was at CHA, where Ethen seems to draw additional power, he'd have a chance. But here and now in Happy Valley? I don't see it. Ruth has been on a monstrous tear and I think he'll take Ethen apart.
Ruth MAJ DEC Lofthouse (Iowa 15-12)
184: UN Jeremy Fahler (RS FR, 8-4) or UN Vinnie Wagner (SR, 6-5) vs. #2 Quentin Wright (JR, 16-2)
This might be the biggest mismatch of the entire weekend, frankly. Wright is going to destroy whichever guy Iowa sends out there. It would be very helpful if they could hold that loss to a decision, but I don't have much confidence in that. Wright is an excellent pinner (he's got nine so far this year) and I think he'll get another one here.
Wright FALL Wagner (PSU 18-15)
197: UN Grant Gambrall (JR, 7-4) or UN Tomas Lira (SO, 8-6) vs. #12 Morgan McIntosh (FR, 12-5)
Again, another match Gambrall could win... but you've seen his recent matches -- do you have faith in him? I didn't think so.
McIntosh DEC Gambrall (PSU 21-15)
HWT: #12 Bobby Telford (RS FR, 14-3) or UN Blake Rasing (SR, 12-4) vs. #6 Cameron Wade (SR, 16-4)
Another match Iowa could win... but based on recent results, it's too hard to see it happening.
Wade DEC Telford (PSU 24-15)
Needless to say, I hope I'm wrong here. I hope Iowa pulls another shocking upset the way they did a year ago and makes me eat a gigantic portion of crow. But PSU seems like a particularly bad match-up for Iowa and I think they'll take full advantage of that and hand the Hawks their most comprehensive loss in five years.
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For some reason, I'm optimistic about Evans vs. Taylor
I mean, not super optimistic …
by The Naked Bootleg on Jan 20, 2012 4:30 PM CST reply actions
Eh
Taylor is tough, but if you are good in a ride you always have a chance to turn a guy.
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seriously though
Taylor will likely be picking chunks of Evans from his stool on Monday.
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
Probably
doesn’t mean that Taylor isn’t beatable
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
And the best chance to beat him might be a hail mary from the top position
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
Is that also a sex position?
I would imagine, if it is, it involves a lot of beads.
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
Yep
And if he’s injured, lungs might suddenly be an issue.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
that's what she said
but please help me, I am not familiar with the Hail Mary move of which you speak. Does it involve strangulation or crushing blows to the groin area? That would make for excellent TV.
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
If Mike can get a half or a wing
he might be able to turn Taylor. Just saying, without the top position Perry only wins one National Championship.
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
I know what you are saying
I may be building Taylor up to much in my mind or maybe I have just listened to Rambler too much.
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
Dangerous game you are playing there
I have just listened to Rambler too much
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
I think Evans will do the same thing DSJ did last year
first one is a major, but by the time they get to Nationals youl be seeing a close match.
then again Evans is real mean on top and has competed against strong guys before was competing at 189 in high school at one point if im not mistaken . who knows, maybe Taylor will get beat.
Iowa loses PSU but beats OSU. OSU got handled by Nebraska didnt they?
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 4:34 PM CST reply actions
They did lose pretty comfortably to Nebraska but, again, past results aren't always that useful here.
It’s all about match-ups and OSU and Iowa are pretty evenly matched. Our best wrestlers are going against their best wrestlers and our weaker wrestlers are going against their weak wrestlers. That leads to a lot of 50-50 matches that could easily go either way.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I feel I speak for all Hawkeye wrestling fans
Having a big fat fucking 0 – whatever for Cael’s record against Iowa makes me sleep better at night.
"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody
by The Bacon Explosion on Jan 20, 2012 5:05 PM CST reply actions
Cael's 0-9 as a coach in duals
But I think he’s also 0-fer as a wrestler too. I may be wrong here, but I think he lost each dual to Iowa as a wrestler. He won the individual battles, obviously, but lost the war.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
Cael also lost to an Iowa wrestler his Freshman year
While wrestling unattached. Can’t remember the name of the Iowa wrestler though.
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by HawKCP on Jan 20, 2012 5:35 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Word is
Rasing and DSJ are both starting. everything else is as expected
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 5:34 PM CST reply actions
That wouldn't shock me if true
Didn’t Rasing beat Wade last year? I’ve heard both ways on DSJ – being held out for next week, going this week. We’ll see shortly.
Penn State is winnable if DSJ goes and we get bonus at the lower weights (as in a pin somewhere in 25-41). Without him, I don’t see it.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
Does it seem as though Iowa wrestles away a lot in conference? They were at PSU last year, too, right? I call bullshit.
by txhawkeye on Jan 20, 2012 5:40 PM CST via mobile reply actions
That's due to the Nebraska addition.
I think next year we get them at CHA.
by One Night Stanzi on Jan 20, 2012 5:48 PM CST up reply actions
We have 4 home and 4 away duals
Illinois, Minny, jNW, and Wisco are the home duals this year.
Indiana, OSU, PSU, and Nebraska were the away duals.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
The PSU thing is just a scheduling quirk.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Jan 20, 2012 6:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The PSU guys
are already preparing their referee-bias defense
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
I expect PSU to underperform in more than one match....
the question in my mind is whether all the hawks bring their A game. If they do we walk away undefeated this weekend.
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
Agreed, though
This year’s team, with the young guys, isn’t quite as mentally tough as the team that walked into Happy Valley last year and took the win. Come on Telford, baby.
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Montell is the biggest flake in my opinion.
He should be schooling everyone. Telford can be cut some slack when seniors play games on him.
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
I don't excuse Marion
but I think that Telford has been a little gun shy as of late. He can beat Wade.
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
What in the devil is happening with the BTN feed?
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
I am heading out to the car to listen on 800 AM.
I will check back later on. See you all.
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
Dedication!
The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.
by HawkeyeGirleye on Jan 20, 2012 6:10 PM CST up reply actions
I prefer this
Seems like it’s been awhile since we’ve had a meet start there.
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by HawkeyeGirleye on Jan 20, 2012 6:10 PM CST up reply actions
Well, then
Pin ’em quick & move this thing along!
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by HawkeyeGirleye on Jan 20, 2012 6:12 PM CST up reply actions
Huh
That doesn’t look right.
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by HawkeyeGirleye on Jan 20, 2012 6:14 PM CST up reply actions
Better
More points, please, McD.
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by HawkeyeGirleye on Jan 20, 2012 6:14 PM CST up reply actions
This OSU just hung on an arm the whole first period
he didn’t do anything to work offense
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Stalling on the OSU guy
McD is pissed
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Are u asking or reporting?
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by HawkeyeGirleye on Jan 20, 2012 6:17 PM CST up reply actions
Well that doesn't sound like an impressive McD match
bummer
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
The OSU guy
was a stall monster. McD looked okay.
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
I hate wrestlers that don't actually wrestle
What do u do w/that?
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by HawkeyeGirleye on Jan 20, 2012 6:18 PM CST up reply actions
Fight through it.
Force the official to call stalling.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
head to head pushing each other around the mat
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
shouldnt have picked down tony
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 6:22 PM CST reply actions
fuck
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Tony rode out entire 2nd period
ramos up in the third
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
Stieber
is going to back up this entire period
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
ugh, has no one to blame but himself
your streingth is on your feet, why would you choose down ever?
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 6:25 PM CST reply actions
oh come on
you go down because getting an escape is usually an easy point. You should be able to get an escape.
Live and learn. Tony will be smarter next time they wrestle.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
if im not mistaken, tony has had problems getting out in the past as well
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 6:29 PM CST up reply actions
he has, but saying he should never take bottom is absurd.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
He is going to have to escape at Nationals
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
Yeah.
And he got an escape against Oliver, didn’t he? He can do it.
Better to get pwned by Stieber now and figure out how to beat him at Big Tens and NCAAs.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
He did b/c Oliver only had 1.08 of RT in the 2nd.
by Carfino'sWay on Jan 20, 2012 6:43 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
He is going to need to get out
if he is going to All American this year
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
133: Stieber DEC (7-0) Ramos
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
That is ugly
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by The Bacon Explosion on Jan 20, 2012 6:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Tony tried a throw at the end
and it backfired
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
125: McD DEC (5-2) Dijulius
tied 3-3
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Once again
Marion with shit leg defense
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
The Stiebers look like such prep school twats
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Jan 20, 2012 6:29 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Hunter and Logan
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
by Lycurgus on Jan 20, 2012 6:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
preppy twat names too
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Jan 20, 2012 6:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
my point
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by Lycurgus on Jan 20, 2012 6:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Easy enough recable thread right here
jtothetweet
They don't even bind feet in China anymore, mostly.
141: Steiber DEC (4-2) Marion
OSU up 6-3
fuck
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Montell maybe took one shot the whole match
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
Hope the rest of our team came to wrestle, because our studs have looked like shit.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Way to fight, Kelly.
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by EnergizerHawk on Jan 20, 2012 6:36 PM CST up reply actions
Kelly is always coming forward
causes him some trouble some
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Kelly takedown off of shitty OSU throw attempt
4-3, reversal OSU
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Ironside is not impressed with the officiating in this match
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Not looking forward to matches with the Stiebers for the next 4 years.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
He wrestles tough
a goer
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by Lycurgus on Jan 20, 2012 6:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Looks like there is :35 of riding time, not sure who that is good for though.
Twitterz: @EnergizerHawk
These OSU silver singlets place a little too much emphasis on their junk.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Well, it has all been freshly shaved
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by Lycurgus on Jan 20, 2012 6:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Trying to improve viewership from the junk loving crowd.
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by EnergizerHawk on Jan 20, 2012 6:41 PM CST up reply actions
That's not the way to do it.
by Carfino'sWay on Jan 20, 2012 6:44 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Oh. Well then. How would you do it?
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by EnergizerHawk on Jan 20, 2012 6:44 PM CST up reply actions
I'm just saying it doesn't do anything for me.
by Carfino'sWay on Jan 20, 2012 6:45 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Of course not. They're OSU after all. Now if it were some Iowa dudes...
I know you got the media guide or whatever with some good ol’ boys on there.
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by EnergizerHawk on Jan 20, 2012 6:46 PM CST up reply actions
Iowa would never wear silver so I can't even imagine it.
by Carfino'sWay on Jan 20, 2012 6:47 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
True.
Black and only black as far as I can remember.
Twitterz: @EnergizerHawk
by EnergizerHawk on Jan 20, 2012 6:48 PM CST up reply actions
is OSU that good or have all the Iowa boys forgotten how to wrestle?
by Carfino'sWay on Jan 20, 2012 6:57 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Did you read my preview?
They have some good wrestlers.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Kelly trying to throw too
not sure why
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
Finally a SW against an OSU wrestler
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
kelly taken down
7-4
Iowa may lose this meet
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
149: Tessari DEC (9-4) Kelly
OSU up 9-3
fucking fuck
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yet another douchey name
‘Cam Tessari?’
What, brutus trying to go all northwesterny
jtothetweet
They don't even bind feet in China anymore, mostly.
DSJ in the house
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
by Lycurgus on Jan 20, 2012 6:44 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
"Just like football"
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
"Just like basketball"
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
fuck ohio state.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
they stole that chant from us
bastards
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 6:45 PM CST reply actions
fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
un be levable
ok, fuck this meet
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 6:46 PM CST reply actions
If DSJ defaults here
I don’t see Iowa winning the meet
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
we didn't even bother showing up for this meet.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
that is quite a wrap on his leg
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Actually, I think his one leg is actually just much paler than the other
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
that is weird
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yikes! What the fudge, Hawks?
I’m at work, so am I right to assume a flat effort?
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Jan 20, 2012 6:49 PM CST via Android app reply actions
DSJ not pulling the trigger on the shot
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nice takedown out of bounds
lol
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
DSJ looks like he wrestling on one leg
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that wasn't a TD?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
looked like he had it when demas was scooting OOB
oh well
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I thought so too
but Iowa isn’t going to get a break tonight
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
Aw. video.btn.com, Y YOU NO WORK FOR ENERGIZERHAWK?
I’ll bite your bicep.
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by EnergizerHawk on Jan 20, 2012 6:54 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
DSJ in on leg
and OSU takes DSJ down
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Maybe
But we’re not big underdogs in any of the remaining matches, either.
I hope the middle-upperweights came to wrestle, though. The lower weights looked like shiiiiiit.
We had, what, 3-4 takedowns TOTAL in those 5 matches?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
This just doesn't look like the way Iowa should wrestle
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
No, they look sluggish and shitty.
Like they trained right through this meet or something.
We deserve to lose if we’re gonna wrestle like this.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
The offense is what is bothering me
Our guys just aren’t working enough offense
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
Professor Moriarty stole the offense?
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by EnergizerHawk on Jan 20, 2012 7:01 PM CST up reply actions
Offense is non-existent but
I’m annoyed at the defense, too – we come out way too flatfooted and give up easy TDs. We need to be sharp from the whistle. We’re not.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yes
Guys get to Marion’s legs way too easy
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
Yep, that's been a consistent issue for him.
Kelly gave up an early TD too.
If Kelly wrestles like that against Frankie he’ll be lucky to just get majored.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I don't know why Kelly would go up top with that guy
it doesn’t seem like his game
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
But our offense looks anemic
Which is NOT what we’re used to seeing out of Iowa. Guys need to be able to attack from different angles if their favorite looks aren’t there
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
We aren't just not getting td's we aren't taking shots
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
But it's been something we've seen the last two years
I’ve been wondering what’s going on. I’m a little worried about the trend.
FIRE BRANDS~!
No, I don’t know. I do think youth is part of it. Guys tend to build more diverse attacks with experience.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Even Gable had some mediocre teams (not saying this is a mediocre team)
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
I agree, it doesn't seem like Iowa has been nearly as offense oriented.
Which is odd given the type of wrestler Brands was.
by Carfino'sWay on Jan 20, 2012 7:08 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I don't know.
I think people have an idealized version of what they think guys should wrestle like at times.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
This is not at all beyond the scope of probability
Like they trained right through this meet or something.
Brands has grown on me real quick, personality-wise, but I think it’s the intelligence behind it that is so charismatic. He totally could be deemphasizing these dual results, training-wise, and focusing anew on peaking for March.
jtothetweet
They don't even bind feet in China anymore, mostly.
Could really use a pin from Evans here.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
157: Demas DEC (7-3) DSJ
OSU up 12-3
What a fucking disaster.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
DSJ is in pain
hell of an effort to finish that match
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
The last half of the lineup needs to step it up
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
If DSJ is going to look like this, he should just shut it down for the rest of the year and heal for next year.
He’s not going to do much of anything.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
It didn't even look like his leg got twisted that bad early when he was writhing in pain.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
No idea, but he doesn't look close to ready to be compete at a high level.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Brands won't wrestle someone cause the team needs it.
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Jan 20, 2012 6:58 PM CST up reply actions
Well we know its nothing too serious right?
I mean if he needing something major done he wouldn’t be back. So I am thinking he tore something?
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Jan 20, 2012 6:57 PM CST up reply actions
I think he has a torn or partially torn ligament.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
That was the scuttlebutt after the UNI match.
His lack of mobility here would seem to support that.
He reminds me of M* trying to gut it out a few years ago.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Anthony deleted his facebook.
Problem found.
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Jan 20, 2012 7:00 PM CST reply actions
Nevermind I found him on my list. He just turned searchability off.
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Jan 20, 2012 7:01 PM CST up reply actions
3 takedowns in 5 matches guys. Just in case you missed it.
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Jan 20, 2012 7:03 PM CST reply actions
so yeah, next year should be fun
ugh. its like a car wreck. i dont wanna watch but i cant look away
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 7:06 PM CST reply actions
next year?
why would next year be worse?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
i actually meant it should be fun literally
i like the guys coming in, i think the team will be alot better next year
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 7:09 PM CST up reply actions
o
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Jan 20, 2012 7:10 PM CST up reply actions
I doubt many of the guys coming in next year wrestle.
Maybe Burak.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Also wondering.
MM is the only ranked wrestler we lose. And guys like Kelly, Evans, and Lofthouse will get a huge benefit of being in the room another year.
"Florida! You don't go to Florida in the winter, you go in the summer!" -Tom Brands
by David Starbuck Petersen on Jan 20, 2012 7:09 PM CST up reply actions
huh
Luke Eustice: Carew is…….. as healthy as he wants to be. I doubt you will see him this year
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Let's roll through 5 matches. Come on Hawks.
"Florida! You don't go to Florida in the winter, you go in the summer!" -Tom Brands
by David Starbuck Petersen on Jan 20, 2012 7:10 PM CST reply actions
I feel like.

"Florida! You don't go to Florida in the winter, you go in the summer!" -Tom Brands
by David Starbuck Petersen on Jan 20, 2012 7:11 PM CST reply actions
Without the caption. I feel just like this hawk at this moment in time
"Florida! You don't go to Florida in the winter, you go in the summer!" -Tom Brands
by David Starbuck Petersen on Jan 20, 2012 7:12 PM CST up reply actions
Not what I was expecting to find when I got home from work.
I think I’ll start with the whiskey a bit earlier than planned
I didn't invent the black turtleneck, but I was the first to recognize its potential as a tactical garment.
by KilometersDavis on Jan 20, 2012 7:12 PM CST reply actions
us winning this meet rests on Wagner, Gambrall and Raising
fuck
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 7:13 PM CST reply actions
argh.
Let’s go, boys. This ones on you.
by Carfino'sWay on Jan 20, 2012 7:14 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
2-1
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Jan 20, 2012 7:14 PM CST up reply actions
wtf hawks
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Ironside says Evans looked dead tired
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Jan 20, 2012 7:15 PM CST reply actions
what the fuck, did they drug the water or something?
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 7:15 PM CST reply actions
This is just shitty wrestling
this Garcia is not any good
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
and shitty officiating too!
hooray
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Potentially dangerous
it was fucking bullshit
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
That is a bullshit potentially dangerous
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
Ironside is angerzzz
"Florida! You don't go to Florida in the winter, you go in the summer!" -Tom Brands
by David Starbuck Petersen on Jan 20, 2012 7:17 PM CST reply actions
"That might be the worst call I've ever seen.. ever"
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
that was Ironside's quote
heh
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I'm annoyed that I pay $15 a month and still get a stupid Jaguar ad when I load up something in All Access.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
the refs have been shitty all night
shitty wrestling + shitty refs = shitty night
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 7:18 PM CST reply actions
Be gentle on Sunday, plz.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
That takedown they gave Garcia was bs too
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
I wonder if Brands had them just training their asses off after the jNW match.
They look like they have no energy which is highly unusual.
They haven’t looked like this since Midlands last year, I think
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
does Evans have RT?
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 7:21 PM CST up reply actions
Evans just likes to give up that single
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
David Taylor will tear his leg off on Sunday if he does it there.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
That was the exact same position they gave Garcia 2 last time
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
That guy is a fucking bush league pud
I can’t believe Evans lost to him
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
If you're just gonna hand a guy your leg, I can see how you'd lose.
Ugh
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Hopefully Evans gets a rematch at B1Gs and throttles him.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
he will
I have no doubt. That guy was terrible
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
Iowa could blank these punks if they wrestled the way they should
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
165: Garcia DEC (6-5) Evans
OSU 15-3
This is fucking stupid.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
ok, im done
goodnight everybody
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 7:23 PM CST up reply actions
This officiating has been awful.
Almost as bad as Iowa’s wrestling.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Lofthouse got 2
Only second time in the meet Iowa has led in a match, I think
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
Can Ethen give some of this Mormon meanness to the rest of the team?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Ha
Do you think this is a trap meet for Iowa?
I wonder
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
juuuuust a little.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
EL up 2-0 w/ 2min RT
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
So random point but College Scorebook has Kyle Dake winning two matches against Penn State??
http://www.nwcaonline.com/nwcaonline/results/ColScorebook/WrestlerInfo.aspx?SchoolYear=2012&ID=37799
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Jan 20, 2012 7:27 PM CST reply actions
4-1 EL after 2
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I am currently thinking of what could comfort me after watching this display
I think it almost has to involve boobs in some way. Unfortunately, that isn’t much of an option tonight.
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
165: Lofthouse DEC (7-1) Heflin
OSU up 15-6
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
How did that OSU guy get out of that without a stall point?
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
The radio guys said they did give EL a stall point
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I didn't see it
these refs are stingy.
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
poop
Good performance against a good wrestler, but I would have liked to see the major.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I think Bobby can score a major if we can get it there
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Jan 20, 2012 7:32 PM CST reply actions
Telford isnt wrestling
Rasing is
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 7:33 PM CST up reply actions
wait that wasn't Heflin at 174
they bumped him up at 184
So I guess EL beat some backup. Even more annoyed he didn’t get a major now.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
what the hell is going on with vinnie's left knee pad?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
except ethen, kinda.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I thought he started great.
Didn’t finish off the 3rd period that well
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
0-0 after 1st
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
vinnie doesn't look much bigger than heflin
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Vinnie getting tired of this bullshit hand fighting
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
Heflin just grabbing hands and standing
fuck him
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
by Lycurgus on Jan 20, 2012 7:36 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
(pardon for being behind; still tryin to scroll thru.)
jtothetweet
They don't even bind feet in China anymore, mostly.
referee pat fitzgerald?
THAT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I thought that when this thing started
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
fucking pat fitzgerald
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Maybe this is all a really elaborate rope a dope strategy for PSU and we'll come out guns blazing on Sunday
(No, I don’t really buy that)
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
This is competely fucked Ross
How does a whole team wrestle this far below their ability?
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
I have no idea.
The only good news is that I know they aren’t this bad.
This was just some sort of perfect storm of badness. We’ve seen them wrestle better. We know they don’t suck this much.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I know
This is like the bermuda triangle of wrestling
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
Just so you know
It’s not a liveblog for 2. I’m following, I just don’t know what to add other than…
ffffffffuuuuuuuuccccccckkkkkkkk.
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Jan 20, 2012 7:44 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
well fuck
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Vinnie just collapsed
This is an Iowa loss
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
184: Heflin DEC (7-4) Wagner
OSU 18-6
This one is all but over.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I wonder when the last time was that we didn't even get TEN team points in a dual.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Chances Brands won't do an interview?
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Jan 20, 2012 7:42 PM CST reply actions
He will call out every one of those guys
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
These guys maybe need a little tender care
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
holy shit gambrall takedown
the end times are upon us!
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
wouldnt it be ironic if Gambrall gave the best effort on the team
after the last few weeks?
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
Can't see the meet,
But from the comments, I’m scared that Brands may eat someone.
by One Night Stanzi on Jan 20, 2012 7:42 PM CST reply actions
im hearing rumors that he has already killed Marion and chucked him off the only cliff in Ohio
dont quote me though
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 7:45 PM CST up reply actions
I'd be more scared if I was a walk-on.
Could be weeks before anyone notices they’re gone.
by One Night Stanzi on Jan 20, 2012 7:45 PM CST up reply actions
jesus, grant really?
that was an easy escape
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
dammit, gg, finish that
happy he’s attacking, though
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Grant is too weak at this weight
I am not sure what the answer is, but he is just not strong enough
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
That was like a reversal in slow motion
WTF
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
GG watches Camp look at the clock
R U SERIOUS
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
5-5
Grant takes shot and can’t pull it in
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
GG doesn't have the big maxi pad on his head today.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Jan 20, 2012 7:47 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Tom Ryan assuming super douchey pose
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
On the bright side, GG has shot more in this match than the last 4 matches combined at least
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Camp up 7-5 with 30 sec left
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I am going to murder something tonight
i
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
The announcers think it is the crowd that has made the difference
they are fucking idiots
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
Yeah, 4000 cuntface Ohio State fans really intimidated our guys.
/roll eyes
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Jan 20, 2012 7:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Ref gives camp a point for grabbing headgear
bullshit
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197: Camp DEC (8-6) Gambrall
OSU up 21-6
Iowa loses.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
did the entire team get hit by Ryhabdo?
this has to be the shittiest overall effort from an Iowa team i have ever seen
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 7:50 PM CST reply actions
Oh hey guys just sto
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?
by mikjones24 on Jan 20, 2012 7:51 PM CST via mobile reply actions
the horror..........the horror.......
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
Blake Rasing and Grant Gambrall are our most aggressive wrestlers tonight
I quit.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
First OSU win over Iowa since 1966
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
/shakes fist sadly
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
At least there are fights on FX to take your mind off this epic collapse.
I had to watch La Niña while the wife was working so I completely missed it. Checked twitter just in time to see Hamilton post the 18-6 team score. Now I’m glad I didn’t get to experience it in real time.
by The Mexican't on Jan 20, 2012 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
it was horribawpitiful
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I've seen NF points given for less than what Rasing had there.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
the refs didnt give Iowa a thing tonight
not, one. thing
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
DANCE SHAVED BEARS DANCE
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Jan 20, 2012 7:53 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
If it weren't for Fran and the basketball team's resurgence...
…you’d have to wonder what in the world our entire athletic department is doing.
End of the day, its only one meet
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly.
And this is a relatively young Hawkeye team, isn’t it? Wasn’t 2012-2013 always supposed to be the big year for this group?
by The Mexican't on Jan 20, 2012 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, were getting really promising recruits at weak weights like the 40s and 80s-90s
and everyone but Marion comes back.
still………….this was bad
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
FIRE EVERYONE
HIRE THE GUY WITH THE CUNTY SCREENAME TO FIX EVERYTHING
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Jan 20, 2012 7:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Ha
Are you referring to me? I will make you all proud
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
I don't think your screenname is cunty enough to qualify for the position.
by The Mexican't on Jan 20, 2012 7:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I will endeavor to cunt it up then
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by Lycurgus on Jan 20, 2012 7:58 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
No, I think you know who I was referring to.
He’s been banned, btw. I’m tired of his trolling act.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
If the Honey Badger nickname weren't so entirely played out you'd have earned it over the last couple months, sir.
by The Mexican't on Jan 20, 2012 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
I give a lot of fucks actually because I put up with him for a long time.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I guess I hadn't noticed him.
I’ve had lots of practice ignoring people as the offseason progresses and I think I may be getting much better at it.
by The Mexican't on Jan 20, 2012 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
Hah-hah-hah-hah!
Tried to ban me, eh? Still here!
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Jan 20, 2012 8:00 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
But your pants are gone.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Even my wife has grown fond of me!
I’ve lost my edge.
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Jan 20, 2012 8:09 PM CST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
It sucks to say,
But in the grand scheme, Sunday’s is the more important meet, to say nothing of the Nat’l Duals, Big Tens, or Nationals.
by One Night Stanzi on Jan 20, 2012 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
You have to be thinking about seeding
This was more important for some guys
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
True,
But if guys are in the right place at the end of the year, seeds could mean very little. It does make it much tougher, to be sure.
by One Night Stanzi on Jan 20, 2012 7:59 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe
but it is better to see the # 1 seed on the finals podium than in the quarters or semis
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
Yeah
Tony probably won’t be able to do better than 2 seed now.
Marion I’m not sure. Maybe 2-3? I don’t know what other B1G guys are doing at this weight.
Kelly is guaranteed a shitty seed regardless.
Best case for DSJ was 2-3 seed… not sure it matters if leg is that jacked up.
Evans needs to try to get a 2-3 seed to avoid Unicorn until the finals. It’s possible since he has a win over Kokesh. And I think this was his first B1G loss.
Ethen is looking at a 2 seed right now, which is good.
Wagner is guaranteed a shit seed.
Gambrall ditto.
Rasing might be able to get a good seed. He’s 2-0 against B1G competition… haha
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I think Ramos and Marion are the guys who cornholed their seeds the most.
Ramos was cruising to a 1 seed if he beats Stieber tonight.
Marion I dunno. The fact that he and Russell didn’t wrestle this year was always going to make that tough to call. Plus I haven’t kept track of what Dardanes has been doing at Minny.
Sueflohn majored Stieber who beat Marion who beat Sueflohn. That’s quite a logic pretzel.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
.
Plus I haven’t kept track of what Dardanes has been doing at Minny.
Yeah, he’s not so much in Marion’s mix. Apparently them Dardaneses is twins n shit. I thought, erroneously, that Chris (133) was younger, cuz he was behind Thorn the Younger and doesn’t go all bonusey aggressive. But, if you’re talking 141, then it’s Nick, who’s 11-4, ranked #14 and has losses to Cornell’s now-unranked Nevinger, NC State’s #13 Darius Little, #7 Stieber and ….Minny’s backup at 141, Seth Lange!, in Consi R1 of the Scuffle.
jtothetweet
They don't even bind feet in China anymore, mostly.
im thinking the Iowa team thought so too
only way i can explain this bad performance
i almost want to go in with all backups and see what happens, just to send a message
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
Seriously,
What the fuck is your problem? Do you solely come here to bitch?
by mikjones24 on Jan 20, 2012 8:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Oh, and then I read some comments below it
Thank the higher powers for that. Sick of his shit.
by mikjones24 on Jan 20, 2012 8:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Also, and I realize I may be in the minority, but I care not one fuck
for dual tournaments.
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
Yes it was.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
so.....did Rasing win?
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 7:59 PM CST reply actions
Yes, 6-2 DEC, I think
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
WOOOOOOOOOOOO
IOWA FOR LIFE!
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 8:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
OSU wins 21-9
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Positives
Rasing looked pretty good, Gambrall attacking more, Vinny fights really hard
Negatives
Everything else
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 8:02 PM CST reply actions
Ethen was a positive.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
who did he beat again?
ethan was a neutral. he just did what was expected of him, maybe a little less
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 20, 2012 8:08 PM CST up reply actions
That's true
I keep forgetting he didn’t beat Heflin.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
What the fuck can Goldy possibly be doing to not call this event?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Thanks for the reports.
Just stopped to see what happened. Kinda sorry I did, but thanks anyway. Off to Mexico at 3 am tomorrow.
Sure Lisa, some magical animal.
Enjoy the donkey shows, sir.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Here haw!
Thanks.
Sure Lisa, some magical animal.
by IowaPharmer on Jan 20, 2012 8:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Fuck
I mean hee haw dammit! Damn spell check. I better get free wi-fi somewhere, cuz I’ll be jonesin for some BHGP for the next week. Adios.
Sure Lisa, some magical animal.
by IowaPharmer on Jan 20, 2012 8:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey hey hey
Moving the party to Hamsterdam.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Kinda glad I missed this.
Hopefully it’s just a throwaway outlier.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jan 21, 2012 11:38 AM CST reply actions





















