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The Epilogue, Part 2: The Offense

Departures, in Order of Importance

1. Marcus Coker, HB: Name the last time a program kept its quarterback, lost the best wide receiver in its history, and still had a bigger loss on the offense. Coker provided 77% of Iowa's rushing yards, 62% of the carries, and 83% of rushing touchdowns. There is nothing behind him at halfback; this is the biggest transfer I can remember.

2. Riley Reiff, LT: When Iowa lost its last left tackle early to the NFL, it had a reserve who had played in almost every game the prior season at left tackle, right tackle, and left guard, a player who might well have been the best lineman on that team. That player was Riley Reiff. Now that he's gone, Iowa turns to...Andrew Donnal?

3. Marvin McNutt, WR: Teams figurd out late how to handle McNutt, namely by having a lockdown corner in man with safety help over the top. But Marvin leaves Iowa as almost unquestionably the best wide receiver in team history, and that's despite playing three seasons with DJK splitting receptions. His percentages aren't as ridiculous as Coker (43% of receiving yards, 34% of receptions, 48% of touchdowns), but there were multiple instances last year where McNutt was the only option, everyone on the field knew McNutt was the only option, and yet McNutt still delivered. He's as good a player as we have ever seen here.

4. Markus Zusevics, RT: A two-year starter at right tackle and probable NFL draft pick based on his technique and the Iowa track record, the Mad Russian was rarely dominant, rarely out of position, rarely mentioned. You could certainly expect worse from a right tackle. Much like with Reiff, his health means there isn't an experienced heir in position.

5. Adam Gettis, RG: Don't stop Gettis Gettis. Kinda wish we had thought of that joke while he was here. Gettis was a perpetual fixture in the two-deep for three seasons before finally breaking through as a senior, and had a good, solid campaign. Contrary to our initial concerns, he was not the issue on the line this season.

6. Woody Orne, RG/TE: Using a 295 lb. backup lineman widely considered one of the team's strongest guys as a tight end was the ultimate sign that Iowa really is obsessed with New England. If form holds, he'll be coaching linebackers like Mike Vrabel in a couple of years.

7. Jason White, HB: A walk-on who somehow was listed as the backup halfback every week, White was there fore depth. Probably wouldn't hurt for next season, but the writing is on the wall.

8. Brad Herman, TE: Started the season as the #1 tight end, usually a ticket to the NFL. Left it as the third-string tight end, clearly passed by Polish Hat (understandable) and Zach Derby (not so much). Herman's career would be a disappointment in most programs, but the fact he made it through four years means he's about 47th on the list of disappointments.

Star-divide

What's Left, Also in Order of Importance

1. James Vandenberg, QB: This year, he had McNutt, Davis, KMM, Fiedorowicz, and Derby to target and Coker in the backfield and was able to eek past 3000 yards passing. He gets everyone back but McNutt, and should have a better receiver in the backfield (not that that ever mattered at Iowa). He's going to have a brand new line in front of him, though, a less experienced halfback in blitz protect, and the weight of the entire offense on his shoulders. There probably hasn't been a more important Iowa quarterback since Drew Tate's sophomore season, and with a guy who managed to complete just 58% of his passes last season despite having the best set of skill poisition guys around him he'll ever see, that's a big concern.

2. Keenan Davis, WR: He finally inherits the top spot, but with the neverending drops (the Insight Bowl was a joke) and the health concerns, we're genuinely concerned that he might not be ready. Clearly has a ton of talent, but how he handles being the focal point of opposing secondaries will be the biggest concern.

3. James Ferentz, C: He's spent most of his career as a starter with old hands around him. That's gone this year, as the much-needed youth movement hits the offensive line. They're going to be bigger, but they're going to be inexperienced, and Ferentz is going to be responsible for calling blocking assignments, keeping Vandenberg upright, and clearing out linebackers in the run game. It's his biggest challenge at Iowa by far.

4. C.J. Fiedorowicz, TE: He's going to have to be the safety blanket now, and there's nobody really standing in his way. The blocking finally got there this year, and his talents as a receiver are undeniable. Prediction: Jim Harbaugh will pick him in the first round of the 2014 NFL Draft.

5. Andrew Donnal, LT(?): Important by virtue of position, especially in a year where it looks like Iowa will have to rely on the passing game more than usual, Donnal is already bigger than Reiff (the line in general is about to get 20% larger) but has virtually no experience at this level. How he plays in August and September (when Iowa's schedule is as soft as we've ever seen) will be crucial. This all assumes, of course, that he's left tackle, which could actually go to...

6. Brandon Scherff, LT/LG: When Matt Tobin was fumbling his way through last season, Ferentz briefly turned to Scherff at left guard. He responded by morphing into a 310-lb. turnstile and letting everyone in with free admission. It was thought, at the time, that Scherff was on the Riley Reiff-Bryan Bulaga plan of playing guard and moving to tackle, but his game was not good enough, and his name not alliterative enough, to make that stick.

7. Brett Van Sloten, RT/RG: Another new face on the line, another body bigger than the one before it. Van Sloten looks like a young Kyle Calloway, and while young Calloway was a mess in 2007, we'll take it if he plays like senior-year Calloway eventually.

8. Jordan Canzeri, HB: We're not counting any recruits until they sign, so for the moment it looks like Canzeri will be the starting tailback. There is one thing for certain: Jordan Canzeri should not be your starting tailback, at least not in his current form. In his one shot at the job, ran 22 times for just 58 yards against an Oklahoma defense that wasn't necessarily known for its prowess against the run (135 ypg average). This is going to be a spot where we desperately need an upgrade.

9. Kevonte Martin-Manley, WR: Showed flashes of brilliance last season, especially against Pitt, and clearly has built a level of understanding with Vandenberg. He'll have to be the pressure valve if teams try to take Davis out of play.

10. Nolan MacMillan, RG/RT: He was a favorite of the coaches for that one week where he was healthy. If he can stay on the field, we fully expect him to be starting somewhere and, given the inexperience on the line, that might be a tackle spot despite his relatively average size. This spot could also go to Matt Tobin, which would be a fate worse than death.

11. Brad Rogers, FB: With Zach Derby still around, we'd normally look for a lot of 2TE formations, but we thought that last year and didn't get it. Rogers will be instrumental in pass protection, especially on third down, and showed an ability last year to take a young, confused halfback and show him the hole to hit. He's the most athletic halfback in a while, but Iowa doesn't really get its fullback carries or receptions anymore.

Three Signs of Hope

Size, Size, Everywhere There's Size. The line goes from one of the smallest in the conference to borderline gargantuan. It's expected they'll go 305, 310, 285, 290, 295 from left to right, and that's without another year of weightroom work factored in. Iowa's line in 2010 -- as in pretty much every other year -- was technically proficient last year, but had difficulty against size in the rushing game and speed on the pass rush. At least the running game shouldn't be an issue.

Vandenberg, Year Two. There was a time that we worried about second-year starting quarterbacks. Drew Tate showed no outward improvement as a junior, and Jake Christensen was a mess. Stanzi changed our opinion; he made quantifiable, sustained, year-over-year improvement, and so we'll hope for the same from Vandenberg. He's got the weapons; aside from McNutt's departure, everyone is back, and he's got some options as a third and fourth receiver should Iowa decide to use them. He's got enough of an arm that, if the read progressions move beyond "1. McNutt, 2. McNutt, 3. PANIC", he'll be fine.

Neccessity Is the Mother of Invention. It doesn't look like anyone is going to ride in as the white knight to save the running game, and with two or three receivers and a couple of experienced tight ends to choose from, Iowa might finally be forced to do something creative on the offensive side of the ball just to move it downfield. It's a small sign of hope, to be sure.

Three Reasons For Panic

It's Still Iowa. There are two returnees we haven't chronicled: Kirk Ferentz and Ken O'Keefe. Iowa finished 2010 at 27.5 points per game of offense, good for sixth in the conference. In conference play, though, that number dropped to 24.1, which placed the Hawkeyes seventh. It's now been nine years since an Iowa offense finished in the top four of the conference in either total offense or scoring offense. This middling performance was in spite of the fact that the Hawkeye offense featured the best wide receiver in program history, a workhorse tailback that racked up 1300 yards rushing, four-star talent at the opposite receiver position and tight end, and four experienced linemen. We say it every year, but this is no longer a statistical anomaly. There was a three-minute tryst with a no-huddle offense that was scrapped as soon as a pass was dropped (and which was inexplicably run from only one formation, so that the benefits of the no-huddle -- jumping a defense before it can adjust personnel -- were completely negated). We're not going to get into the melodrama of who among the head coach and coordinator is requiring this absurd offensive ineptitude. So long as these two are running the show, Iowa's offense will be mediocre bordering on awful.

Halfback? More Like No Back. As we already discussed, there's nothing left at halfback. The guys who are left behind in the wake of the departures of Coker and McCall weren't good enough to break through, even when McCall was nursing a broken ankle and Coker had been reduced to $240 of pudding. There are some verbal commits who could contribute, and Iowa's shown no qualms about using freshmen in the last couple of seasons, but the fact that we're going to rely on guys who not only aren't yet on campus but haven't even signed a letter of intent yet shows how serious the situation could be.

Offensive Line of Death. The last time Iowa did an underclassmen rebuild like this on the offensive front, the offense collapsed. The progression for top linemen at Iowa has been a year at guard followed by one or two at tackle. Iowa had some trouble at guard last year, to the point that Ferentz had to be considering open tryouts, and even with that trouble none of the guys in play for this year's line were able to break in. That's not a good sign, just as the fact that we're probably relying on a guy who can't walk and chew gum without tearing a pectoral muscle or the same walk-on at the other guard spot this year. Just opening holes and taking a drop longer than three steps on a passing play might be an adventure this year.

Three Things That Could Change Everything

Another Round of Immesurable Pain. Look, when we were losing guys with obvious legal problems and homesickness issues a few years ago, we got it. We didn't like it, but at least it made sense. When you chase talent at all costs, you're going to get a bad seed or two. But you're so clearly doing it wrong when, in the course of a month, you lose the All-American American and hometown hero A.J. Derby and a physics major who was quite literally named Gentleman of the Year in high school. These are not small problems, and there's no telling where they stop. If another potential starter or two hit the road, it's DEFCON 1.

We Hear Things. It's a little late in the game, but there's a chance we see some turnover in the offensive staff this winter. Not O'Keefe, obviously, because the man could quite literally set fire to James Vandenberg and keep his job, but the position level could see some moves both voluntary (Soup Campbell's being pursued for obvious reasons) and involuntary (Lester Erb's four-year graduation rate is now worse than that of Bob Huggins).

Dartboard Guess

I'd like to say that Iowa will accept the circumstances, spend the offseason watching the 49ers, Badgers, and (especially) Stanford Cardinal, and prepare for the kind of bunch formation tight end-heavy offense that would take the conference by surprise and take full advantage of Iowa's recruiting tendencies and talent-on-hand. That would be silly, though. Despite losing McNutt, Vandenberg will have a slight uptick in both completion percentage and yardage, but it won't be nearly enough to make up for the lack of production in the backfield and yardage lost to sacks. Iowa's offense will try to maintain "balance" for its own sake, production will drop into the bottom half of the conference in every measurable category, and we will all kick and scream and curse at how awful it is. So, basically, par for the course.

Terrorist fist jab to Brian for the format.

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I need to do a quick rec for "Don't stop Gettis Gettis" before I read the rest of the article

OK, done.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 17, 2012 9:39 AM CST reply actions  

Luda.

I love Gorillaz but Ludacris is one of the Top 10 musical artists of the last 10 years IMO. I don’t care if that sounds silly, I like me some Luda.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 17, 2012 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Do you have..

A midget hangin from your necklace?

"And after it was all over, he took us in the house and served us pancakes... pancakes." - Charlie Murphy

by Podolak Pimpin' on Jan 17, 2012 1:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

FIFY

Jordan Canzeri : HB DannyWoodheadBack

DRUNJIFORNICATION

by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jan 17, 2012 9:50 AM CST reply actions  

Re: McNutt's percentages compared to Coker's

I would say (without putting in the effort to, you know, “look it up”) that Coker’s numbers aren’t that far out of the ordinary for a team that has an established number one back. It seems far more rare for a receiver to account for such a significant chunk, if only because there are more receivers than running back on the field for nearly every play (and multiple receivers are options on each play), and there is often more rotation throughout the receiving corps, as well.

Again, that’s just my gut feeling unsupported by any actual numerical analysis, but it seems logical to me.

by sullivti on Jan 17, 2012 9:53 AM CST reply actions  

So when our offense does shit down its leg,

Can we finally expect pressure to be put on Ferentz to make changes to the offense, whether it be staff or philosophy?

I said I have a DRINKING PROBLEM!!

by bornofclay on Jan 17, 2012 10:08 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Hahaha NO.

Lack of execution. Spin the wheel again next year, the answer will be the same.

by 9isEnough on Jan 17, 2012 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

At some point, though

Enough has to be enough…won’t be next year I guess…

I said I have a DRINKING PROBLEM!!

by bornofclay on Jan 17, 2012 11:10 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Ray Hamilton

It will be interesting to see if the offense uses two tight ends even more next year. Maybe even line them up out wide. I wonder if the emergence of two tight ends as legit receiving threats in New England trickles down at all to Iowa.

by Enoch on Jan 17, 2012 10:11 AM CST reply actions  

I don't like the Patriots,

and yet, I am cool with this plan.

I’d like to say that Iowa will accept the circumstances, spend the offseason watching the 49ers, Badgers, and (especially) Stanford Cardinal, and prepare for the kind of bunch formation tight end-heavy offense that would take the conference by surprise and take full advantage of Iowa’s recruiting tendencies and talent-on-hand.

Does this mean we finally give the FB (Cambus) like, 3 to 5 carries per game? Particularly against weaker competition (the non-conference slate, Minny, jNW, IU, and OMHR)?

I, for one, welcome our new jumbo package overlords.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 17, 2012 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Polish Hat/Hamilton

Should be a great TE duo. We lacked production there so bad this year, hopefully it returns to prominence. Especially with Marvin gone and Drops McGee as #1 WR.

"And after it was all over, he took us in the house and served us pancakes... pancakes." - Charlie Murphy

by Podolak Pimpin' on Jan 17, 2012 1:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Good point.

If Bill Belichek does it, KF dreams about it. And lord knows I’d like our top 2 TEs to lead the team in recs, yards and TDs.

"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"

by One_ill_KevinJ on Jan 17, 2012 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I specifically want to see

Rushing TDs

Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.

by BoiseHawk on Jan 17, 2012 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

TE Rushing TDs

are way more rare

Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.

by BoiseHawk on Jan 17, 2012 7:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Watch moar Archer.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 17, 2012 10:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Thank you Vint for this analysis of depression

From 2005-2010, you can spin the mixed results however you want them. Vint obviously spins them negatively, blaming losses on Ferentz, and implying that wins are mostly luck.

2011 was rare. We have the potential to have 8 players drafted (realistically, more like 6) which is the most of ANY Ferentz OR Fry team. Combine that with the plethora of talent in 2010, and that means that maybe Ferentz hasn’t done so well with talented players lately.

However, I still think Ferentz is good at making something from nothing. Next year, besides Vandy and Hyde, we have pretty much nothing. So…maybe Ferentz proves to us once again why he’s a good coach?

by TangerinePony on Jan 17, 2012 11:10 AM CST reply actions  

2012 will certainly give him a chance

to prove his coaching ability.

I feel like he is becoming more set in his ways when it comes to the offense. We all remember 2002 and the wide open offense Brad Banks ran. Now we have a QB in JVB that seems more effective out of the shotgun and no-huddle. The coaching response this season was to send him under center and huddle for as long as possible.

I hope he can prove me wrong, but I am not optimistic.

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by The Bacon Explosion on Jan 17, 2012 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Shot Callers vs. Ballers

.. and no this isn’t a Lil Troy shout out. With all the NFL products coming out of Iowa, coupled with our mediocre results, whose taking the lions share of blame for those results? Shot callers (KF/KOK) or Ballers (players)? I mean KOK isn’t forcing drops by Keenan. But its not Vandys fault we scrap the no huddle shotgun. I’m tired of NFL U when results don’t correlate proportionally, thoughts?

"And after it was all over, he took us in the house and served us pancakes... pancakes." - Charlie Murphy

by Podolak Pimpin' on Jan 17, 2012 1:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

i thought the purpose was to win the B1G

not to see how many guys could play next year?
what have i missed?

Her noblesse exceeded her oblige

by OhioHawk on Jan 17, 2012 6:20 PM CST up reply actions  

That's the goal of the players

the goal of the coach and team is to win the B1G

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 17, 2012 7:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Where art thou Roses?

"You want an honest answer? I have no idea."
-Kirk Ferentz

by KF Bubblegum on Jan 17, 2012 6:28 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Re: Vandenberg vs Stanzi

While you make a good point that stanzi improved statistically year to year, he also had the benefit of two of Iowa’s best recievers emerging at the same time, along with two NFL tight ends. From the beginning he also had the intangibles of a winning QB- although helped in no small part by the talent around him. JVB isn’t in that situation, and while a very capable and statistically good QB, it is hard for me to imagine him improving the way stanzi did because of the drop in talent and the fact that he was pretty darn good on paper already most of the time.. Next year will be more about seeing vandy march the team down the field and win us a couple games, which didnt happen vs quality opponents this year.

by The KF Karate Chop on Jan 17, 2012 11:19 AM CST via Android app reply actions  

I just don't have as good of a feeling about Vandy

With Stanzi it seemed like we all knew what was right and what was wrong. He was a natural leader, he could make the throws, he played the game with ice-water in his veins but he was prone to misreading defenses and inexplicable mental lapses. I think everyone believed that Ricky could be much better if he put in the classroom time in the off season.

With Vandenberg it just seems so much more complicated, I have no idea how to classify everything that was wrong this year (statistically he wasn’t that bad but his road performances were pretty terrible).

Maybe my observation about Stanzi is one that is born completely out of hindsight. I don’t know.. this just feels different to me.

DRUNJIFORNICATION

by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jan 17, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I totally agree.

I guess what I am saying is the statistic that matters is wins against good competition, and vandy has zero compared to stanzi’s several even in his first year and a half when he wasnt as sharp as vandy is now. I am totally behind vandy though because he doesnt have the talent around him now that stanzi did, so we are comparing apples to oranges a bit…

by The KF Karate Chop on Jan 17, 2012 11:43 AM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Well I guess we beat michigan.

So theres one good win. But I didnt feel that it was because of vandy. He certainly didnt put us in a position to lose, though.

by The KF Karate Chop on Jan 17, 2012 11:45 AM CST via Android app up reply actions  

I don't think Vandy's performance (or lack thereof)

When compared to Stanzi is due to a talent disparity. It’s not like Marvin McNutt and Keenan Davis were making Vandy short hop/overthrow balls all day. Stanzi had mox, Vandy clearly (at this point) does not. That’s what makes them so different. You can explain that away by talent.

by mikjones24 on Jan 17, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I totally agree on the results for last year.

But looking at the talent returning on both offense and defense, I think he will have to improve just to have a similar year statistically, to say nothing of the improvements he needs to make on intangibles.

by The KF Karate Chop on Jan 17, 2012 1:42 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

mox, that's the biggest thing for me too

I can’t fucking stand hearing about tebow as much as we did down the stretch like we did, but I will acknowledge that the guy is a great example of how a quarterback’s leadership and attitude can change the whole team. I see exactly none of that from jvb.

Son of a bitch, I'm sick of these dolphins.
@keepitupguys

by sailorjerry on Jan 17, 2012 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Can we call it moxie? I keep picturing James Van Der Beek when you say "Mox"

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by therealCatnuts on Jan 17, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

The Double Der Beek is surprisingly entertaining.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 17, 2012 1:01 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

the Double Der Beek is fucking mesmerizing

Cancel all appointments. i will be staring at this all day ……………………………………………………………. …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Jan 17, 2012 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

It's like a double rainbow

BUT BETTER

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by RossWB on Jan 17, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll make them both green

I can’t look away…

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by ClaybornSmash on Jan 17, 2012 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty much my thoughts exactly

I am ambivalent at best re: Vandenberg. I hope he proves me wrong.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 17, 2012 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I think we should assign

Alvis, Cooper, Morris and Kirksey to blitz vandy whenever they see him all spring term. train him to recognize the blitz without getting hit by a cambus. If he can dodge a bus, he can dodge william gholston.

by nhradar on Jan 17, 2012 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe we need

Someone to throw a never ending stream of wrenches at him.

/BASEketball’d

Sure Lisa, some magical animal.

by IowaPharmer on Jan 17, 2012 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm hoping this is some weird reference I don't get

Because the wrenches were most definitely in Dodgeball, nothing to do with Baseketball

by rpmhawk on Jan 17, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Dammit.

You’re right. I thought it would have been funny otherwise, but yes that’s the idea.

Sure Lisa, some magical animal.

by IowaPharmer on Jan 17, 2012 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

not any of the pussy 2 on 2 shit you play

/truely baseketball’d

Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.

by BoiseHawk on Jan 17, 2012 12:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I keep hoping something like this exists in real life

like in The Program, where Omar Epps has to keep the football at all times when other members of the football team try to take it, most notably during a class at a large lecture hall.

by Captain n Diet Coker on Jan 17, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I think part of it with Stanzi

was it seemed like he was improving as the season went on (and as you said, perhaps I’m looking at it more in hindsight and that’s not actually the way it was). Unfortunately, that isn’t the case with JVB.

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by Brock8144 on Jan 17, 2012 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I wonder if there's more to the true frosh OL not getting minutes at guard last year.

How many recent true frosh have seen guard time at Iowa, aside from Bulaga? Is it possible that Ferentz simply doesn’t have the “must win now” gene and was letting the newcomers watch and learn with hopes that they’d be significant cogs in the OL machine going forward?

by The Mexican't on Jan 17, 2012 11:21 AM CST reply actions  

Ferentz has always maintained he is a "must win now" coach

The reason those players aren’t seeing the field is because they aren’t ready.

Take Polish Hat for example. Everybody clamored to see him more in 2010. When he got his shot in 2011 it was obvious he wasn’t ready – blocking was still so-so, and he struggled more receiving than we’d hoped. By the end of 2011, though, he showed he was ready.

Two factors that can potentially be blamed on Ferentz, though: 1) Players need playing time to “be ready”. Ferentz typically sucks at that. Special teams does not = playing time. 2) Some players aren’t seeing the field because of inflexibility to adjust game plan/offense (AJ Derby perhaps).

You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Jan 17, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

"must win now"... now that's funny

/snorts
/takes knee with 1:17 seconds left and two timeouts

by Grixxly on Jan 17, 2012 1:05 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

So many recs for the Levon and Barry ref

I miss The State almost as much as I miss having a competent offense.

Now if you’ll excuse me I have to go practice getting really drunk in preparation for next season.

by nerdhawk on Jan 17, 2012 11:27 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

If we really, really tank

And by really tank, I’m thinking 4-8 or 5-7, if KF doesn’t produce the next year, I can see the alumni buying him out…

Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!

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by The Bird Cult on Jan 17, 2012 11:35 AM CST reply actions  

You would be alone in that

The more likely scenario if we go 3-9 or 4-8 and just look awful is that there becomes pressure for KF to make changes in how he goes about things. Maybe that means sacrificing a coach or two. I don’t know. It’s hypothetical. But with his tenure and contract and, frankly, power, I wouldn’t necessarily expect him to heed that pressure. Then if he were to go well under .500 again the following year, he might be in some trouble, but not to the extent that his job would be in jeopardy.

For KF to be run out of town people would need to stop attending football games, or there would need to be a scandal. He’s entrenched, so the more productive conjecture would be about how HE could change his way to derive better outcomes.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Jan 17, 2012 11:44 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I would prefer to see changes, but Kirk reminds me of the opening sequence of the Six Million Dollar Man

Where Steve Austin is punching buttons and yelling “she’s breaking up! she’s breaking up!” and then BANG he hits the desert. Its like he’s too stubborn to bail out of the plane and do something different.

Of course, maybe that’s a different way to spin some of these departures. Maybe things are going to be different come Spring….

Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!

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by The Bird Cult on Jan 17, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

You see, though, Norm Parker was the six million dollar coach

Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.

by hkobb7 on Jan 18, 2012 4:23 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

If he sacrifices a coach

it’ll almost have to be KOK. Unless the defense doesn’t exist, you can’t can a D coordinator with less than a year on the job.

"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass

by chitownhawkeye on Jan 17, 2012 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, it's entirely too hypothetical

given that he has two coaching openings right now which could lead to any number of reconfigurations of his staff….now.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Jan 17, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Except that he’s apparently not going to make a fucking decision about a DC until after the national signing day, because that makes no sense whatsoever.

by txhawkeye on Jan 17, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Brian Ferentz for DC?

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 17, 2012 10:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Why not?

Why not let the NFL coaches in the playoffs do their thing? For HC, yeah, you want the decision made and resolved. for DC and position coach (and if it IS parker, we’ll still need a new position coach on top of LeVar), what’s the rush? Especially with LeVar locking down the D-line?

by nhradar on Jan 17, 2012 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, that really depends on who he picks

I agree absolutely with KF when he says picking the DC will have long-term ramifications and losing 1-2 recruits this year is a possible price. I’m fine with that. But if we’re going to lose a few recruits AND just end up with Phil Parker, well then that is fucking stupid.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 17, 2012 7:22 PM CST up reply actions  

If he names Phil Parker DC in the days after NE wins the Super Bowl (if), I’m going to have to ….. Well, whatever it is, it’ll be pretty extreme.

by txhawkeye on Jan 17, 2012 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes.

If it is Phil Parker, or Darrell Wilson, then name him now.

Christ, if it is Tom Bradley, name him now.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 17, 2012 10:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Long term or short term

You can’t pick a DC hoping he’ll be with you till the end of time. Unless his plan is to pick someone who will, like Norm, retire in this job, pick the best guy and pick him now. Like with Hayden, I want him to not be afraid to hire someone who will be good enough and motivated enough to want to be a head coach. If he’s only here for a couple of years, that’s the price to pay for having a guy who’s good enough to get a better job in a couple of years.

"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass

by chitownhawkeye on Jan 18, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

True. And I agree 100%

my point was that I’m fine with the search taking a little while if KF’s being overly thorough or pursuing someone not yet available. But if the decision has been Phil Parker all along, then stringing this out is just mind-numbingly stupid and incompetent.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 18, 2012 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

You've convinced me

It’s Phil Parker. The thing is KF decided weeks ago, but the information office just forgot to make the announcement.

On the upside, they don;t have to repaint the office door, or get new business cards. He’ll just scratch out Norm and write in Phil.

by Ratface McDougal on Jan 18, 2012 8:42 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

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by WaterlooChazz on Jan 17, 2012 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Just a quick fix for the running back situation
and Iowa’s shown no qualms about had no fucking choice but using freshmen in the last couple of seasons

There, it fits more with reality now.

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by The Bacon Explosion on Jan 17, 2012 11:37 AM CST reply actions  

Agreed. But he did lose the team his SR year, that was tough to watch

Other incorrect memes that need to die:
1) Iowa can’t stop a running QB. This is patently false in the last 3+ years
2) The spread offense would solve our problems. The pro offense works at many other schools, and a new offense with different skill players would take much time to install
3) MOAR BLITZING. I refuse to continue listening to people that can’t recognize we’ve had a top-tier defense consistently for the last decade
4) Most importantly: “There are only two sides to any story, and if you’re not on my side you’re clearly an idiot.” Though that one’s more of a life wish than Iowa Football wish.

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by therealCatnuts on Jan 17, 2012 12:36 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

For the last 2-3 years, I’ve told a lot of my Badger friends that we can’t stop a mobile QB. Norm generally proved me wrong on that statement. Also, I’ll cry the day we run the spread. Hate that idea. Seems so un-Iowa-like.

Sure Lisa, some magical animal.

by IowaPharmer on Jan 17, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know that he lost the team, he just got hurt and the team was really bad

Like I don’t think Herb Grigsby was going to learn to catch the ball if Drew started yelling less. And I know people close to the situation who said that his injury issues that year were significantly undersold to the public.

by NorseHawk on Jan 17, 2012 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!

I know people, I know things!!! At least you repeated what people told you, thereby being the guy to “out” the kids.

//jk

by txhawkeye on Jan 17, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

This is the rare situation where I actually do Know A Guy

But I realize those posts are bullshit like 99% of the time, so I don’t blame people if they choose not to believe it. On the other hand I think his play that year sort of speaks for itself. Something was clearly wrong with him, and an injury makes more sense than him suddenly forgetting how to pass because he was angry.

by NorseHawk on Jan 17, 2012 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Damn you, Solon Beef Days.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 18, 2012 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Purdue has a giant OL

Please, please please let our new corn-fed overlords learn how to block.


Also, Hawkeye fans, why do you have to be jerks to incoming recruits (and marcus grant). Seriously? Come on.

by nhradar on Jan 17, 2012 12:35 PM CST reply actions  

The message board cretins have discovered Twitter, I think.

People have apparently been shitting all over Jaleel Johnson & Marcus Grant.


"WELCOME TA EARFF!"

by Bucketochicken on Jan 17, 2012 12:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Too bad KF can't put the social media ban on fans.

"I mean, are they going to poop their pants or are they going to get tough?" ~Tom Brands

by Hawkeyegirl on Jan 17, 2012 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

No doubt he would if he could.

Ultimately though, it comes down to bad parenting. Because most of those people should’ve just been aborted to begin with.


"WELCOME TA EARFF!"

by Bucketochicken on Jan 17, 2012 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

That went in an entirely different direction at the end than I anticipated.

/Huge grimace, but nodding all the same

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by therealCatnuts on Jan 17, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Taking the moral high ground - abortion isn't funny.

But I digress. Why would “fans” shit all over Jaleel Johnson? I know Grant left the program, which would cause stupid people to act…stupid… I just don’t know the situation with Johnson. Enlighten me.

"I mean, are they going to poop their pants or are they going to get tough?" ~Tom Brands

by Hawkeyegirl on Jan 17, 2012 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Not sure.

I think it stemmed from when his commitment seemed to be wavering. Which, I think, was really just sort of an offhand-ish comment he tweeted in the immediate storm after Coker left. You hit the nail on the head with “stupid people acting stupid” though.


"WELCOME TA EARFF!"

by Bucketochicken on Jan 17, 2012 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

That's it.

KF needs to put the lock down social media ban on any recruits who are considering, have considered, or are likely to consider accepting a scholarship, gray shirt, or preferred walk-on status to the University of Iowa. This shit is out of hand.

"I mean, are they going to poop their pants or are they going to get tough?" ~Tom Brands

by Hawkeyegirl on Jan 17, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I think I saw tweet from Jaleel retweeted by a Hawkeye news source

where he said, well Hawk fans tell me why I should come to Iowa.

DRUNJIFORNICATION

by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jan 17, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

And now he's said,

“Well, my top two are iowa and MSU”

by nhradar on Jan 17, 2012 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Next thing you know he'll have some kind of Twitter contest.

“Whichever fan base tweets me the most will get my services!”

"I mean, are they going to poop their pants or are they going to get tough?" ~Tom Brands

by Hawkeyegirl on Jan 17, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Which recruit did that last year?

Is he still with us? It was one of the East Coast kids. Same 2 schools, too. Why must we entrust so much of our football hopes & dreams to the whims of 18 y/o boys? Caring really IS creepy.

The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.

by HawkeyeGirleye on Jan 17, 2012 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm the creepiest of all.

I follow the recruits from my area of the country – out here in the mid-atlantic – and I don’t remember any of “my” guys pulling that garbage. See how creepy I am? It’s awesome, right? Nico Law (Bishop McNamara), Jordan Lomax (DeMatha Catholic) and Darian Cooper (DeMatha Catholic) enjoyed the Tweet, but didn’t find their way to Iowa that way.

"I mean, are they going to poop their pants or are they going to get tough?" ~Tom Brands

by Hawkeyegirl on Jan 17, 2012 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Cooper was the one that actually did that right before signing day

I think he was just having fun with it though. And it was overwhelmingly Iowa fans that responded back saying he should go to Iowa.

by Captain n Diet Coker on Jan 17, 2012 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

So I'm not as creepy as I make myself out to be.

"I mean, are they going to poop their pants or are they going to get tough?" ~Tom Brands

by Hawkeyegirl on Jan 17, 2012 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

No, you are

"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe

by Brock8144 on Jan 18, 2012 9:27 AM CST up reply actions  

That's right!

Happy he’s still with us. Seems like this time it may not end as well…

The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.

by HawkeyeGirleye on Jan 17, 2012 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I followed Nico Law

mostly because he’s just an entertaining kid. (Actually I guess I’m still following him but have forgotten since he’s ‘gone dark’)

I don’t think you’re creepy. It’s the yahoos who harass them via twitter who are the creeps.

The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.

by HawkeyeGirleye on Jan 17, 2012 6:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Fuck

It was only a matter of time before the peasantry got ahold of the social media.

by mikjones24 on Jan 17, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

See what happens when you only require

that the serfs devote 300 days of their labor to you?

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 17, 2012 9:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Great

Transfers, slow moving coach search, Kremlinesque public relations, a very vocal minority of Taliban (credit: edsbs) fans…what else is missing? Maybe the team can contract the Hanta virus.

Das Stochern gewinnt.

by Blackheartnopants on Jan 17, 2012 1:05 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Oh snap.

rec’d.

"I mean, are they going to poop their pants or are they going to get tough?" ~Tom Brands

by Hawkeyegirl on Jan 17, 2012 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

You two need a partner

I hope someone else signs up as GirlHawkeye to confuse everyone!

Das Stochern gewinnt.

by Blackheartnopants on Jan 17, 2012 2:03 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Shoot!

Why didn’t I think of that when I discovered ‘HawkeyeGirl’ was already being used? Damn sign-up pressure.

On another note, we probably crossed paths while undergrads so maybe it was all just meant to be.

The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.

by HawkeyeGirleye on Jan 17, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah yes, our undergraduate days.

When Derby the Elder and Bielema the Doucher were Hawkeyes, Iowa went to the Rose Bowl, everyone wore navy blue and gold Champion brand Iowa sweatshirts (seriously – what was that about?) and Jon Filloon was my favorite player. Sigh.

"I mean, are they going to poop their pants or are they going to get tough?" ~Tom Brands

by Hawkeyegirl on Jan 17, 2012 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

My mother still wears her royal blue Champion brand Iowa sweatshirt with white lettering.

"I’m not going to comment on anything beyond where I’ve been so far." - Gary Barta

by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 17, 2012 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, those were the days!

Dime Draws at Vito’s, Flip Night at The ‘Liner, stealing logo’d pint glasses from Mickey’s, Hayden roaming the sidelines, & Nick Bell & the hot Hartliebs on the field.

I never had a blue & gold Champion Iowa sweatshirt but I did have them in a wide variety of other non-black & gold colors. (& no, I never understood the color thing but they were SO comfy!)

The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.

by HawkeyeGirleye on Jan 17, 2012 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm guessing light ash was one of the colors.

I think 2/3 of my wardrobe was light ash in 1992.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 17, 2012 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

My original light ash one

Ended up with huge hole in it from getting acid on it in Organic lab.

Let’s see what I remember: navy w/white lettering, red w/black, dark green w/white, light ash w/black- that’s not too bad for 6 years of school, right?

The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.

by HawkeyeGirleye on Jan 17, 2012 11:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty good selection. I've always liked forest green (one of the colors of my high school). And I wear a lot of navy blue.

A red one just seems kind wrong, to me. Probably because of all our opponents that have red (ISU, Wisky, Ohio St, IU, now Nebby).

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 17, 2012 11:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Red is my favorite color!

At least it had black lettering

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by HawkeyeGirleye on Jan 18, 2012 6:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I like red as well.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 18, 2012 7:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Light ash?

Don’t you mean heather grey? That’s what we called it anyway, but same thing. Heather grey was quite the popular color for just about everything (but especially collegiate/school wear) in the 90’s. My dad was a distributor for stuff like that back in the 90’s, and he had all sorts of heather grey samples that I got to wear.

by Captain n Diet Coker on Jan 18, 2012 8:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Ummmm...

Awkward silence as no one knows what the deuce this dude from New Hampshire is talking about.

"I mean, are they going to poop their pants or are they going to get tough?" ~Tom Brands

by Hawkeyegirl on Jan 17, 2012 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

From Iowa City, actually. Born and raised. :)

The jaleel johnson thing was mentioned over in the AJ Derby post, I think. And Marcus Grant was well-covered here when he left (and the twitterverse shat all over him).

by nhradar on Jan 17, 2012 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't see any major changes happening

Ferentz does not adapt his system for his players- he plugs the players into his system and if they don’t execute, it’s just that simple. Iowa will do what they do. If the players execute and they win great- but I have given up on any sort of game planning or out x’ing and o’ing our opponents. This is what drives me crazy.

by Knightfan92 on Jan 17, 2012 1:00 PM CST reply actions  

this
So long as these two are running the show, Iowa’s offense will be mediocre bordering on awful.

KF<3KOK, this co-dependent relationship need to be broken up.

by IAinCA on Jan 17, 2012 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't understand this line of thinking at all.

Coaches install philosophies all across the country and recruit players that fit their system. Changing the system to fit a player seems crazy. If a player can fit the system and also add more qualities to a position, then great, but the players first have to prove that they understand what they’re being coached.

by The Mexican't on Jan 17, 2012 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

yes, but what if the coach says, they could see them changing some things to get that player on the field more?

Then that coach must be crazy, eh? I mean, you can’t tell me they haven’t changed offenses between Banks, Chandler, Tate, Stanzi.

meh

by tyger1147 on Jan 18, 2012 7:26 AM CST up reply actions  

If you think about it,

the offense was pretty similar between Brad Banks and Nate Chandler. Both guys had the option to run. Banks just seemed a bit faster at it?

Something did seem a little different when Tate was running the offense, perhaps because we were relying on the pass at that point.

I’m not really sure how to characterize the offense under Ricky.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 18, 2012 7:54 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't think the offense was changed for Banks.

He simply added the element of a QB run if he didn’t see passing options. It’s not as if Iowa used Banks to run an option offense. Vandenberg has also shown the willingness to run when he can’t find an open receiver. Banks was simply the most mobile QB Iowa has featured in the last 10 years.

by The Mexican't on Jan 18, 2012 8:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Correct, there was no "option" play

However, his most effective run was the called shotgun draw. We installed that shotgun offense primarily for him, I think.

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by therealCatnuts on Jan 18, 2012 9:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Look on the bright side, expectations next year will be extremely low.

We start out in the basement and end up in the basement. Not sure if I like the prospect of another shit-the-bed performance against Minny though.

by Stay thirsty, my friends. on Jan 17, 2012 3:02 PM CST reply actions  

But what if we beat those expectations?

And go better than .500 in conference?

/I just blew your mind.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 17, 2012 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

This will probably be covered in pt. 3 the Defense

but should we be expecting to find out the new DC within the next few days? Was the job listing supposed to be concluded today or was it the 27th?

by IAinCA on Jan 17, 2012 3:12 PM CST reply actions  

18th, I think, was the earliest day

There’s no limit on the conclusion, I don’t think. There’s just a minimum posting time. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see it take until after signing day.

by nhradar on Jan 17, 2012 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

A coworker mentioned that the listing had been extended to Jan 28

Resulting in an assumption by the same coworker that Ferentz was or is chasing an NFL coach that is currently in the middle of a playoff run.

by The Mexican't on Jan 17, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, oniowapod had the same speculation

I sort of wonder who it might be, though, in that case. Or if there’s some larger staff realignment happening.

by nhradar on Jan 17, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I would take anybody but a Patriots defensive coach, their defense sucks.

However it could be something where our coaches are moving around and Brian Ferentz will come back to coach.

by clay-born to party on Jan 17, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Pepper Johnson might be okay.

I think Patrick Graham could be okay.

I’m not wild about Flores or Patricia.

http://www.patriots.com/team/coaches.html

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 17, 2012 11:07 PM CST up reply actions  

The listing stuff is such nonsense.

He may very well be pursuing an NFL guy, but the listing itself (and the dates attached to it) means very little. If he wants to hire someone now, he can — there are plenty of ways to get around the legal requirements of the listing.

Iowa State hired a new offensive coordinator (promoted from within) a few days after their old one bopped off to Ohio State, yet I’m pretty sure they’re still subject to the same requirements re: listings and such as Iowa.

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by RossWB on Jan 18, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Nah. Rhoads just does whatever the fuck he wants. Iowa’s all into “process” and “posting” and “rules” and dumb stuff.

by txhawkeye on Jan 18, 2012 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Time to pen a write-up on Jim Caldwell returning to Iowa...

You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Jan 17, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

That would be good.

Which is why it won’t happen. We all know Phil Parker is the new DC and Woods is the new DL Coach. The very idea that we think it could be someone else is silly. But this is the silly season.
So silly.
Silly, silly, silly. Silly pants.

by hawkinsandmelrose on Jan 17, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

"Terrible" and "Defensive"

Are subjective terms.
So is “coach” and “is”, as well as “Jim” and “Caldwell”.

by hawkinsandmelrose on Jan 17, 2012 5:46 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm not sure why, but this made me laugh. So, rec'd.

Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.

by hkobb7 on Jan 18, 2012 4:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Woahhhhhh, Norsehawk. You have been on edge lately. 'Twas a joke.

Though I thought Caldwell had some D in his past? I’m no expert though.

You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Jan 17, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Facepalm

You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Jan 18, 2012 9:27 AM CST up reply actions  

He played DB, no?

"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe

by Brock8144 on Jan 18, 2012 9:31 AM CST up reply actions  

This does not make you qualifed to coordinate a defense

Especially when you’ve spent decades coaching on the other side of the ball. See comment below on Rich Rodriquez.

Why in the world would you want them to hire a guy to perform a job that is completely different from anything else he’s done, and who was a massive failure in the last job he held? Is it just because he went to Iowa? I go to Iowa and used to play defensive tackle, should I apply?

by NorseHawk on Jan 18, 2012 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

It was mostly in reply

to the “he had some D in his past?” question. I also was unaware what his previous duties were prior to becoming head guy w/ the Colts.

"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe

by Brock8144 on Jan 18, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Adam Shada for Iowa DC!

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 18, 2012 12:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I still think it's Benny Sapp

You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Jan 18, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I put a tenner on Harold Dalton.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 18, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

TRICK QUESTION it's actually Tanner Miller.

Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.

by hkobb7 on Jan 18, 2012 4:43 PM CST up reply actions  

You put a tenner on Tanner?

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 18, 2012 4:52 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

It's Collin Sleeper,

but he missed the scheduled interview time by 20 minutes and was sent back to his dorm in shame.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 18, 2012 11:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Most of his assistant coaching experience was with WRs or QBs or offense.

But, he was head coach briefly at Wake Forest, and he played DB at Iowa. I’d bet he knows enough about defense.

I’m not wild about this idea, but I don’t hate it, either.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 17, 2012 11:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Rich Rod is a DB.

Sounds about right.

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by therealCatnuts on Jan 18, 2012 9:33 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

RichRod is a DC

also sounds right

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 18, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I want this bad dream to end...

and go back to the days of Roses. When was the last time we went? All this “playing to win” made me forget.

Seriously though, these past few offseasons have been very headache-inducing. And KOK frustrates me to no end.

"You want an honest answer? I have no idea."
-Kirk Ferentz

by KF Bubblegum on Jan 17, 2012 6:07 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

91, but that's partly because of BCS disasters

We should have gone to the Rose bowl in 2003, but Orange picked ahead of Rose with OSU in the BCS title game, so we had Rose Bowl West.

by nhradar on Jan 17, 2012 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

And we've had other teams that would be good enough for a Rose Bowl some years

The teams from 02-04 and 09 all finished higher in the final polls than any of the Hayden Rose Bowl teams.

by NorseHawk on Jan 18, 2012 8:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Losing the last game of the season'll do that for you, unfortunately.

Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.

by hkobb7 on Jan 18, 2012 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Been a long damn time since a Rose Bowl.

So long, that I don’t even have concrete memories about it.

Way off topic: how hilarious is this?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Fight-Video-NCAA-benches-clear-between-North-Da?urn=nhl-308024

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 17, 2012 11:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I would have been 9 years old,

so no, not really.

Also, that may or may not have been when my household had cable TV, so I may not have been quite as into the habit of watching sports on TV as I am now.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 18, 2012 7:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Should have followed the link first

That is, indeed, hilarious. But college hockey…is still hockey. I once genuinely feared for my safety….at Harvard.

by nhradar on Jan 18, 2012 7:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Rose Bowl

should be our primary goal, imo

"You want an honest answer? I have no idea."
-Kirk Ferentz

by KF Bubblegum on Jan 18, 2012 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

"See, though, we've felt for awhile now that it's places like Phoenix,

Thriving urban hubs, you know? Those kinds of places are where recruits want to go, so we go ahead and shoot for those kinds of bowls." Kirk Ferentz

(No, not really.)

Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.

by hkobb7 on Jan 18, 2012 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

great

Now I am depressed Patrick. Better open up the whiskey.

by Captain America (aka Steve Rogers) on Jan 17, 2012 7:51 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Wait 'til you read the defensive epilogue today!

I hope you saved some whiskey.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 18, 2012 12:23 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Is there any chance Iowa could get Jim Caldwell on the staff?

Preferably to replace KF, no seriously any way this could happen?

by Squawkeye on Jan 18, 2012 12:49 PM CST reply actions  

Drinking before noon on a Wednesday is not advisable.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 18, 2012 12:55 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Which noon?

There’s one per time zone.

"I’m not going to comment on anything beyond where I’ve been so far." - Gary Barta

by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 18, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Judgmentally rec'd

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 18, 2012 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

ditto

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 18, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, thanks but no thanks there, pal.

Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.

by hkobb7 on Jan 18, 2012 4:52 PM CST up reply actions  

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