Iowa vs. Northwestern Wrestling LIVEGAMEOPENTHREAD
by RossWB on Jan 15, 2012 12:30 PM CST
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Time for MOAR WRESTLING.
Iowa's back in action today against Northwestern, in a meet that features several rematches from Midlands. It's also a meet that, on paper, Iowa should win rather comfortably.
The meet begins at 1pm CT. Television coverage is on Mediacom 22 and video.BTN.com/Hawkeye All Access ($$$), while radio coverage is the same as always: KXIC 800 (free) where available in Iowa and Hawkeye All Access ($$$) elsewhere.
The normal open thread rules are in effect: no links to illegal online streams, no porn, no politics, no religion, no slurs, and no douchebaggery.
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True enough.
Standard def hurts my eyes
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
These heavies are wrestling like drugged bears
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Jan 15, 2012 1:13 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Just got home
Starting with HWT, I assume?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Si
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
the KXIC feed on All Access appears to be playing Kings of Leon rather than Ironside/Grace
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
fuck
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yea he was snoozing. Just got it back tho
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
has there ever been a tv display
that shows:
-team score
-match score
-riding time
all the the same time?
Be a lot cooler if they did
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
I can't remember one
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
McD looked solid
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by Blackheartnopants on Jan 15, 2012 1:28 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Yes he did
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
Ramos pins!
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
Ramos!
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by Blackheartnopants on Jan 15, 2012 1:32 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Short story time
I grew up a basketball player. In my highschool and college years not only did I never go to a wrestling meet, I made fun of wrestlers on a regular basis. “Look at those guys wearing spandex and grabbing each other.. derpaderp.” Due to my obsession with BHGP and RossWB’s writing I have started to pay more attention to the sport. First, just Hawkeye stuff but yesterday I went to a highschool tournament here in Iowa. Watching wrestling live is an absolute blast. I have started to pick up on rules and strategy enough to understand what is going on and watching the kids from my school of choice compete was an absolute blast. I really wish the sport got some more mainstream attention because I do not have Mediacom or Big ten network and as a result rarely get to see the Hawks in action. Keep the updates coming in this thread, i’ll be following. Thanks to Ross and all the other wrestling fans for helping make my “conversion” possible. (still love hoops but seriously Wrestling is a fantastic sport)
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jan 15, 2012 1:33 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Get to Des Moines for the state finals!
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by Blackheartnopants on Jan 15, 2012 1:36 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
This will be happening
I went for about an hour last year to make an appearance (job related) but this year I"m going all in.
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jan 15, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
Yesssss
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Jan 15, 2012 1:39 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I follow Don Bosco pretty close and am hoping to have a lot of them down there to watch
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jan 15, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
Good choice
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by Blackheartnopants on Jan 15, 2012 1:46 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I'm stoked to go to my first mountain HS dual next week
They take it waaaaay seriously at a few of the schools down here in Appalachia. Seriously enough that the refs get a little worried on the way out of meets.
He is fun to watch when he is aggressive
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
Well McD and Ramos are taking care of business
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Ramos feasted on his oppenent
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
nom nom nom
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Strait bullshit
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
Ramos is in BEAST mode this year
Unfortunately I feel like i’m just waiting for the other shoe to drop and something bad to happen with him. I think that is my Iowa football attitude showing through.. always waiting for the other shoe to drop.
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jan 15, 2012 1:34 PM CST reply actions
Ha. I don't blame him! Marion is sharp today
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
Marion looking sharp so far
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Marion's oppenent wants this match over. He is outclassed
14-6 after 2
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Greco is broken
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yeah, no kidding
I was all “Why are you letting him get a cheap escape point with 10 seconds left, Marion” and then BOOM TAKEDOWN. I guess that’s why
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
His shoulders are fucked
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
Which is funny
Cause you’d think with a name like Greco, he’d be a better wrestler.
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by Blackheartnopants on Jan 15, 2012 1:40 PM CST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
*ba-dum-tish*
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I feel bad for Greco
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Someone get that boy some Advil
Or some bourbon
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Marion wins via TOTAL OWNAGE
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
two 14-point wins
I’d like to have the extra two bonus points for tech falls (no backs for marion, so it didn’t matter, but)
Last 3 matches have been awesome.
Pure Iowa aggressive domination. F U jNW!
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Montell found his mean side.
Very nice to see.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Friedly's got quite a little fro
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Kelly is tenacious
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Since we seem to always start at heavyweight
I’m assuming that they start at 125 and work their way backward until the coaches can agree on a starting weight. Is that right?
Also, is there a difference between backward and backwards, and which one should I have used in that last sentence?
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
No.
If there’s no mutual agreement between the coaches, they go to a random draw. Iowa basically always wants to start at 125 (for obvious reasons), so if the other coach disagrees they go to a random draw. I’m guessing that’s what happened here.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
That's what I thought before
It just seems weird that the last 3 meets have all started at heavyweight.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Nebraska started at HWT
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
gah
I mean, Nebraska started at 197. Gambrall got Iowa’s first win.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Got ya.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
So McD looking like McD
Ramos looking like McD and Marion also looking like McD… i like where this is going
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jan 15, 2012 1:47 PM CST reply actions
I don't think I've ever seen McD
punish a guy like Marion did. Pushing his face into the mat and throwing his elbows around with bad intentions. I was loving it.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Rough
More, please.
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by Blackheartnopants on Jan 15, 2012 1:49 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
WTF is going on with Joe Flacco's moustache
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I think it was a bet. The announcers said he is shaving after the season and that cannot wait.
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
C'mon Kelly don't let him ride you like that
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Jesus, get the takedown already.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
That was just stupid.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
WTF
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
that was absurd
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yeah, that was not good.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Hopefully a good coaching chance for Kelly. He was close
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 1:53 PM CST up reply actions
For a while
Then there was some WILD scrambling for the last 30-40 seconds.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
That was quite the scramble
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 1:55 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
There were a bunch of near takedowns and near pins in there.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Damn exciting. Until Kelly lost.
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
14-6 Iowa after 5 matches
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Strait bullshit
Persona non grata.
by ninerhawk on Jan 15, 2012 1:53 PM CST via Android app reply actions
I have. Only once. It was high school quality.
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
Metcalf being interviewed on MC22
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
BRENT!
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Oky St wasn't a sellout crowd?
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
According to Hlas, it was
Same attendance for BBall and Wrestling. BBall, they declared sellout, wrestling not (15,400 both times, the new standard).
I thought it was.
I’m pretty sure people were being turned away at the ticket office right before the meet.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
So has everyone seen the Jesus Christ to Tim Tebow video?
It is one of the best things to come out of Late Nite tv in a long time.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Jimmy Fallon's work. Didn't help stop the Pats. But it was funny.
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
In case you haven't seen it
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Did Rob Brooks just say that Ferentz brings Gable in to speak to the team before games?
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
He's done it a few times, yeah.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
The honorary captain usually speaks to the team before games.
Gable’s been honorary captain a few times, I know.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I see
I would love to listen to a speech by Gable. I’ve heard that he and Lou Holtz are two of the best sports figures to listen to.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Eh. Holtz? Let's keep it clean here
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not the world's biggest fan of him
but if you look at his resume, he was a pretty damn good coach and I think that motivation was his strong suit.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Agreed. He and ND bug me however.
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
I will miss watching Mark May fire him up every saturday
boy could he get under his skin intentionally and light a fire
DAN GABLE
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Uh, Gable.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Ray Lewis
still a pretty good tacklebacker
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jan 15, 2012 2:04 PM CST reply actions
Crowd of 7500 there.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Does Iowa wrestling turn a profit?
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
So far as I know, nope
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I thought I heard somewhere that it does
but only because their expenses are so small. I’m not very sure about that though.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
I believe they make more off their camps and training sessions for youngsters during the offseason
…if there is an “offseason” in wrestling
I had heard that too
and that during Alford’s tenure he had a clause in his contract that guaranteed him so much camp money. Since his camps didn’t bring that much in they were dipping into the wrestling camp money to pay Alford so wrestling took their camps off campus in order to keep all the profits.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
I don't think so
Their expenses aren’t huge, but they’re still big enough. And wrestling’s only source of revenue is ticket sales, unlike football and basketball (including women’s) that have bring in significant TV revenue
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
LOL
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
Moore looks overmatched in the early going here.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Moore is bloody
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
What is his status?
Didn’t Brands say before Midlands that DSJ could have wrestled if he needed to?
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Sounds like he might be back for the Ohio State dual next week
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Andy Hamilton of Iowa City PC
said that he expects him back by the end of this month… I’d say next week is a good bet. Sooner the better.
the rumors are that he will come back next weekend
and they arent new rumors either, so we will probably see him then
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 15, 2012 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
At first I didn't notice the period in that sentence and I was about to get angry.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Kapowski 4 life
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
I owe uh Zach ten bucks.
Could you loan it to me?
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Yes
turns out high school wrestling in California isn’t very intense.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
He received inappropriate benefits from Mr. Carosi at his summer job
and the NCAA banned him for life.
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 15, 2012 9:07 PM CST up reply actions
he also quit temporarily to take up cooking
if i remember correctly
by derp derp derp on Jan 15, 2012 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
Moore is way overmatched.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
This guy is aggressive.
I think DSJ would have trouble with him.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
He's good
But DSJ beat him three times last year.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I see.
I suppose it’s easier to be aggressive when you’re that much better than your opponent.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Welch got invited to wrestle at Midlands when he was in high school
Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein
Moore is still battling
which is nice to see.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Well at least he didn't get tech falled or pinned.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
And he didn't have to turtle up at the end of the match in order to avoid the tech.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
C'mon, Evans.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Evans may have become my favorite wrestler to watch other than McD.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Ramos
and MM when he’s on are hard to beat.
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by The Bacon Explosion on Jan 15, 2012 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
Today all 3 looked like champions
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
Fuck the contact
I don’t need to see you to pin you.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Anybody know off the top of their head
whens the last time an Iowa wrestler was pinned or tech’d in a dual? feels like it’s been awhile… I know Moore was put down twice at Midlands if I recall, but I can’t remember the last dual whipping
it perked my attention that's for sure
doesn’t it feel like it’s been forever since we’ve been bullied? i mean, not that I’m complaining
I don't know.
It’s been quite a while, I think
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
It's got to be exhausting being ridden by Evans.
I love it.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
That would be fantastic.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
They probably don't want to deal with any FCC fines
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Jan 15, 2012 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It seems like Evans should have been cutting him and working on the tech.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
yeah this for some reason it seems guys just aren't having that killer instinct
bonus points are HUGE, not just now but at nationals too… that’s what worries me come tourney time, we don’t go balls to the wall all the time like teams of the past (08, 09, 10)
Maybe
But he’s a lot better on the mat than on his feet so I feel better with him trying to turn him for NF points or get a fall
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yeah. I mean, he won 11-0
Evans had an equal shot of getting a TF from backs and from cut and release, I think.
I guess I'm a new-school Brands product then
I just think if you’re gonna win 11-0, and not get bonus points, why not go for the 15 and get it… so what if you give up a few points in return for going for it, you’d just get the 3 points you were originally getting for winning the match anyways
Well, he DID have a major
So we’re talking the difference between 6 or 5 when deciding whether to try to turn or go fishing (and going fishing is the lower-probability move for evans; he’s not montell).
He got a major (4 pts)
He could have cut him and tried for a tech, but he would have needed 4 more takedowns to do it. I think he was better off trying for the fall. He’s still not great on his feet
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Realistically he could probably have gotten 3 takedowns and kept him down.
The more I think about it he probably went about it the right way though. He was just about as likely to get the points by turning him, plus this gave him more time to work him for the pin.
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Did he have back points previously?
If not, and he just cuts and downs him, he still gets 4 points.
He needed to turn the kid to get 5 no matter what.
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Yes, Evans had back points.
Half of his points were NF points, I think.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Nice job, Evans
18-10 Iowa now, 3 matches to go.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
This is a lot tighter that I would like
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by The Bacon Explosion on Jan 15, 2012 2:25 PM CST reply actions
Brands not happy
I think he’s upset that Lofthouse let up on the edge of the mat and they weren’t out of bounds yet.
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I agree.
Munster seems to be getting the better of him on the tie-ups.
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Very nice ride here.
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Lofthouse rides out the entire 2nd period.
Masterful.
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And there it is.
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Who is the guy doing commentary with Brooks on MC22?
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Cornell College's head wrestling coach, IIRC
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
thx
Went to grad school with Izzo and Mariuchi
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 2:35 PM CST up reply actions
He's pretty good.
I still love listening to Ironside on the radio though.
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t waaaaaaaaay ahead of the tv
also i dont know wtf happened there
by derp derp derp on Jan 15, 2012 2:35 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, Ironside-Grace are 10-15 seconds ahead
Kind of annoying
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I just looked him up
He’s actually Cornell University’s head wrestling coach. Interesting.
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He is not an Iowa fan
Koll ran a campaign last year to chastise Iowa about missing the National Duals. The guy is a dweeb.
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Nice win, EL
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
yeah. would have liked to see more, but.
Now we just need to avoid getting pinned, dq’d or defaulted twice.
revenge for Midlands correct?
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by The Bacon Explosion on Jan 15, 2012 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
That's what they said on MC22
apparently Munster beat him pretty good at Midlands.
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Defense has totally taken over this AFC game.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Informal tally of warnings since the OSU dual
Iowa, 1. Iowa opponents, 30.
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Didn't Marion get two within about a ten second span against Nebraska?
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they seemed to happen at the same time
very strange
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by The Bacon Explosion on Jan 15, 2012 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
yup
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by The Bacon Explosion on Jan 15, 2012 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
Informal tally
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
I know.
It just came to mind because I wasn’t watching that one all that closely and my buddy mentioned it to me last night. He said is was a pretty shitty call.
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Now that you mention I do recall.
They were malarkey
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
Kellogg went to Sioux City North
boooooo
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
damn they are hard to figure out
often seem like they could be very very good, but don’t have the record to show for it. Hopefully they can find a way in WL.
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by KilometersDavis on Jan 15, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
Slow start for Vinnie, but he got it going by the end.
Wish he could have gotten the major, but oh well. Good effort.
Iowa up 24-10 This one is done and dusted.
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Just like football
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
The student section started that chant at the basketball game yesterday.
I was just glad not to hear the overrated chant, I hate the overrated chant.
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I love all good natured taunting chants.
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by BentNotBroken on Jan 15, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
Ironside wants Schoen to play football.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Gambrall gets warned.
Damn it Grant, get going.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
"Gambrall gets a deserved stalling call"
Ouch.
True, but ouch.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
C'mon Brooks.
Big Ten home dual winning streak? Weak.
In other news, Iowa hasn’t lost a dual where the weather is under 35 degrees outside since 1997.
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ok, this whole "road winning streak" thing needs to stop.
it’s like a great big consolation prize iowa fans couldn’t care less about
Come the fuck on Gambrall.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Women up 1 with 37 seconds left
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by KilometersDavis on Jan 15, 2012 2:50 PM CST reply actions
I'm starting to think Brands needs to just step in and tell Gambrall to go back to 184.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
I don't think that's going to happen this year.
If he was going down to 184 this year, it would have happened. I’m guessing there are health reasons that Gambrall is staying here. Staying here doesn’t do him or the team any favors.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Eustice was saying that there's no way
He’s at or above 200, day-to-day. There’s barely time for it, even if he wanted to. Cutting is so hard on your body that you have to make other sacrifices sometimes. Concussions are no joke. Just ask kyle anson.
I see.
I had heard that he’s weighing in at 187. Can’t remember who the person telling me’s source was.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Schoen needs to be warned now.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Well fuck.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Maybe do that before the last 30 seconds, Grant
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I love Tom Brands
“I’m not feeling too impressed right now.”
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
“This is a bad interview. This is a bad time for an interview.”
Tom Brands is pissed.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
24-13 is the final score
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No one keeps it real-er
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I can't believe Brands is that pissed.
Gambrall was pathetic, but other than that I didn’t think we wrestled too bad.
I didn’t see McD’s match and it sounds like Brands isn’t very happy about that one.
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he probably isnt that happy with Telford or Kelly either
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 15, 2012 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
Tom walked over to Blake after the HWT match and said something.
I will not be surprised if he gets the nod at OSU.
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by David Starbuck Petersen on Jan 15, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
Blake wasn't impressive at all the last time he saw the mat.
I think Brands will let Telford work through these issues. Everyone he’s lost to in this stretch is (or would be) a ranked opponent.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Maybe just something as simple as "you've got an opportunity this week"
motivation and whatnot, with the added bonus being that it pushes the top guy too.
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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 15, 2012 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
I think Gambrall really REALLY pissed brands off
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 15, 2012 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
Ed Reed is a bad, bad man.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
you could hear the crowd yell REEEEEEEEEEEEEEED as the ball was in mid-air
saw that pick coming from a mile away… I tell ya what though, if Houston had Schaub in there, they might’ve won this game
Agreed.
If they keep this team together they’ll be tough to beat next year.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Baltimore vs NE will be a good matchup.
I kind of wish it could be played in Baltimore, just because I think it’s a better environment for a football game.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Ironside on PSU last year:
“We snuck in there and stole their ponies”
hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
State College
which seems weird considering we wrestled there last year too.
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Scheduling quirk
Adding Nebraska meant redoing the schedules.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Ha, I don't think that's gonna happen.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Without looking at the lineups for next year
the home dual against PSU next year could be even better than this year’s Oky St meet.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
This year's Iowa-jNW dual was at Carver.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I see.
Next year should be good with PSU, Minny and ISU all coming to Carver.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Half-assed police work and defense
that’s what Baltimore does.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
If this was Jim Harbaugh instead of John, I think he might go for it here.
Or fake it.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
This just got a lot more interesting.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
That was curious.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
No shit.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
That ball hit Walter in the arm.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Ow, hope Ed Reed isn't seriously hurt.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
A couple of interesting calls at the end.
I’ve been seeing more and more teams lineup like Baltimore did on their 3 and <1 with the running fullback lined up behind the running back and the running back offset, but I can’t figure out why the fuck you wouldn’t just lineup in the I formation and let your guys do their normal jobs.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Well I've been wrong on basically everything in the playoffs but I finally got one right.
I bet Baltimore to win on the moneyline and Houston to cover +9.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Oh shit.
Indiana at Ohio St on CBS next. I would almost rather watch that than the football game.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
That is not the way to make a tackle
NY up 10-3
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shoot, Gambrall's concussion/apparent insanity probably killed our title hopes this year
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 15, 2012 9:33 PM CST reply actions
I don't know that this is true at all.
There isn’t a team in the country that worries me going into the national tournament. You just cannot tell how these guys will be wrestling in March. Iowa has as good of a chance as anyone. They need to work hard to qualify all ten.
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Iowa needs to use PSU's blueprint from last year.
We need McD, Ramos, Marion, and DSJ to make the finals. Then we need some decent runs out of Evans, Lofthouse, and Telford. Anything we get out of Kelly, Wagner, and Gambrall will be gravy, IMO.
So much of it is going to come down to matchups with Evans, Lofthouse, and Telford. I think if McD, Ramos, and Marion simply wrestle to their capabilities, they’ll be fine and go far. That’s possibly true with DSJ as well, but I want to see how he does against some decent competition this year before I hop fully on that bandwagon. But the other guys are going to need to get some luck with the draw — and probably a few upsets as well.
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