Gone Baby Gone: Marcus Coker Asks For Release From Iowa (UPDATED W/ TUES. EVENING INFO)
by RossWB on Jan 10, 2012 11:14 PM CST
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PrintIOWA CITY, IOWA - The University of Iowa announced today that sophomore running back Marcus Coker has withdrawn his application to enroll in spring semester classes. Coker also asked for a release from his football scholarship and that request has been granted.
I think there is only one possible reaction to this news:
This is so far beyond ridiculous it's... I don't even know what it is at this point. "Absurd" and "farcical" seem inadequate. Even made-up words like "ricockulous" somehow fail to capture the sheer nonsensical insanity of the Iowa running back situation. We're beyond curses, vengeful deities, and comparisons to the Spinal Tap drummer situation. We're in a brand new plane of madness here. And it sucks.
I do not know what Marcus Coker did to get suspended, nor why he now asked for his release from Iowa. There has been (and likely will continue to be) considerable speculation, but out of respect for Coker, who was nothing but a considerate and well-spoken representative for the football team and the university while he was here and whose suspension (by all indications) had nothing to do with any criminal activities, I would prefer that you not disparage his character and that you use discretion in discussing the speculation surrounding his suspension and departure.
EDIT: So there's this...
According to an Iowa City Police Department incident report from Oct. 28, 2011, a woman reported to police that she was the victim of an assault at Coker’s residence, 618 Iowa Ave. The alleged assault took place sometime between 1:15-1:30 p.m. on Oct. 28.
The report isn’t detailed, but does note the responding officer was dispatched to the University of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics for a sexual assault.
Coker was never charged and the investigation has concluded without charges.
Coker, for the record, said this via Facebook:
"Welp so much for that. It was a good 2 years iowa..best 2 I could of asked for. Thanks again for the support. I really wish I could tell u guys wats goin on cuz its really ridiculous to b punished for somethin I didnt do. Id like to think [thank] the coaches and athletic staff for everything. Hawk for life."
I give up. I'm going to go stare at pictures of puppies for a while, okay? Okay.
And, yes, I was wrong. I freely admit that. I thought Coker would be back. McCall's departure was sad, but not terribly surprising. Coker's departure, on the other hand, is surprising (except in the "it's not because he's an Iowa running back so of course you should expect the worst' way) because what little we knew about his suspension made it sound as though it wasn't a major deal. Both Ferentz and Barta seemed optimistic that he would be able to return to the team in 2013 2012. Various insiders and Iowa media types expressed the same sentiment. So to see this news today... it was unexpected. Very unexpected.
Meanwhile, for probably the ∞th straight year, Iowa's leading rusher will not be returning for the following season. Welcome to the new reality, same as the old reality.
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but out of respect for Coker, who was nothing but a considerate and well-spoken representative for the football team and the university while he was here and whose suspension (by all indications) had nothing to do with any criminal activities, I would prefer that you not disparage his character and that you use discretion in discussing the speculation surrounding his suspension and departure.
DRUNJIFORNICATION
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jan 10, 2012 4:17 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Post-Greene running backs ~ Lickliter-era point guards
Discuss.
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 4:19 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
well quite easy
Post-Greene running backs do exist if even in a temporary state. Lickliter-era point guards (or any type of basketball players for that matter) are more of a myth like the unicorn.
DRUNJIFORNICATION
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jan 10, 2012 4:21 PM CST up reply actions
Who said in the last thread
that Iowa RBs = Spinal Tap drummers. That’s about as apt as it gets
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Jan 10, 2012 5:28 PM CST up reply actions
Der
Or I could just take the 3 seconds and look. Nickhawk08, all the credit is yours.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Jan 10, 2012 5:29 PM CST up reply actions
The story tags
They summarize what is going through my head
by iowaChemE on Jan 10, 2012 4:19 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I second this
This is a ride that I would very much like to get off
"He lowballed us and said: 'Take it or leave it. If you don't take our offer, you are rolling the dice.' I said: 'Consider them rolled.' " - Jim "Huge Brass Balls" Delaney
by ClaybornSmash on Jan 10, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
I think Sherlock might have a lead for finding the missing offense
for the football team at least.
Proud Husband, Father, and PESSIMIST
Iowa just needs to abandon the RB position
just go with 10 men on the field for offense, not like KOK would realize the difference anyways
Well we can abandon the power running game now and just let Vandenberg chuck it from the shotgun.
(looking for positives)
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
so long as its a home game
is there a point to road games now?
by IrishHawkeye7 on Jan 10, 2012 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
5 wide, all the time
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Does that mean Derby will be one of them?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I meant Zachariah Derby, the other half of our hat-tastic TE combo.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I know – I was kidding, because, you know, AJ was a qb then punched out a bus window then announced he was a LB. Why not a TE?
AJDerby4Everywhere
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
The MSU game wasn't exactly a gem, either.
Proud Husband, Father, and PESSIMIST
by Feelin' Orney on Jan 10, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
I thought we were all Rudock fans now?
At least during the offseason we can convince ourselves Vandenberg is better than Stanzi again, I guess.
Isn't that what we were supposed to do this year
Now if only we could pick up a blitz
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Jan 10, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
Fuck me in the goat ass.
Shit.
"I'm like a tornado, wrapped in a hurricane, nestled in a box of tsunamis."
by Ed Podolak of Good Judgement on Jan 10, 2012 4:23 PM CST reply actions 8 recs
AIRBHG really whizzed that thing in there
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Jan 10, 2012 5:17 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
He buttonhooked us, I didn't know he was going to buttonhook us.
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Jan 10, 2012 5:25 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
He was fucking beating us loud, eh?
He’s got this new hickory stick and he really goes off with that thing
I am drunk.., or I wouldn't be talking to you.
by codenameduchess on Jan 10, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Fucking Roger Staubach over there
Battles are won with a hammer, wars are won with a scalpel
by C.I.owA on Jan 10, 2012 7:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know what the fuck this is but someone needs shot
not killed just kneecapped so you know not to trust the guy that limps… I can’t fucking believe this…
All of you?
Suspended
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Jan 10, 2012 4:24 PM CST via Android app reply actions
I cant believe no leaks have happened out of this.
Either no one knows whats going on or the clamps are on tight.
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by HawkeyeBoiler on Jan 10, 2012 4:24 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
so is it pretty much a guarantee this RB from Pennsylvania will start
as a freshman in 2012 (assuming he doesnt decommit)?
by IrishHawkeye7 on Jan 10, 2012 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
I'd say Canzeri is the leader right now.
He’ll probably put on at least 5 pounds of weight in the offseason and have a year of familiarity with the offense. Then Garmon, then Johnson as a darkhorse candidate.
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
Canzeri cannot see 20+ carries a game.
Or we will probably see a man die on the football field next year.
I think Garmon will see a lot of work next year, barring [insert AIRBHG-inflicted harm of your choice].
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Jan 10, 2012 4:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I was lamenting in my head that KOK (damn him) doesn’t use more than 1 RBs, but then he sort of did with the Jewel, Wegher, Robinson experience? Or was that happenstance? What a dumpster fire
And Fred Russell and Jermelle Lewis
And Albert Young and Damian Sims.
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
I don't remember Iowa ever actually having to manage the Jewel/Wegher/Robinson experience.
Wasn’t Jewel hurt during Wegher’s only season on campus?
by The Mexican't on Jan 10, 2012 4:46 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I think that’s actually why Wegher played. Didn’t get Jewel get hurt, again, really early in the year? It’s so hard to remember the timeline with Iowa RBs.
Hampton was hurt in the offseason before 2009.
That year was all A-Rob and Wegher (and Paki).
Then he was hurt in the Arizona game in 2010 (after Wegher was more or less gone).
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
It will be interesting to see.
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, some poor LB will become the new Ray Boom Boom Mancini
Battles are won with a hammer, wars are won with a scalpel
So he'll be a hulking 155 pounds next year.
"I mean, are they going to poop their pants or are they going to get tough?" ~Tom Brands
by Hawkeyegirl on Jan 10, 2012 4:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd love to see him put on 20 pounds.
But it’s not realistic and probably not good for him. 5-10 is probably about right relative to his frame.
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 4:40 PM CST up reply actions
Ahh! Totally forgot to mention Dawson.
He’s just the kind of under-the-radar candidate AIRBHG would miss.
(Oh shit.)
YEAH, SURE HOPE NO ONE TELLS AIRBHG ABOUT OUR NEW RUNNING BACK, RICHARD DAWSON.
"I’m not going to comment on anything beyond where I’ve been so far." - Gary Barta
by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 11, 2012 2:16 AM CST up reply actions
Probably Canzeri
Garmon will get significant carries next year though. Canzeri, Bullock, Johnson, Garmon – they’d all better see carries next year. And they’ll get one or two more running backs, plus Malloy from Sioux City (who recently said he’d accept a walk-on role).
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
Not to mention we'll probably try to sign another back now, I'd imagine.
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
He will probably blow out his knee mowing his mom's lawn this spring
I am drunk.., or I wouldn't be talking to you.
by codenameduchess on Jan 10, 2012 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
Garmon, that is
I am drunk.., or I wouldn't be talking to you.
by codenameduchess on Jan 10, 2012 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
Or tear up his ACL
With a weed whacker
@HankThrasher
by Hank Thrasher on Jan 10, 2012 5:22 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
This
Made me throw up in my mouth a little.
I said I have a DRINKING PROBLEM!!
by bornofclay on Jan 11, 2012 2:15 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm fairly certain that people know and are choosing not to release the information.
by The Mexican't on Jan 10, 2012 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
shocking that in iowa city nothing solid gets out though.
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by HawkeyeBoiler on Jan 10, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
They've been eating a lot of greasy foods.
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Probably to protect
I remember ESPN writing an article about “undisclosed suspensions.” Usually mask something NFL scouts would believe to be serious, but done for the benefit of the player’s future. Chris Ivory comes to mind as an example. Not trying to malign Coker’s character, but this kind of action has a precedent.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Jan 10, 2012 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
Iowa Running Backs=Spinal Tap Drummers
Canzeri to spontaneously combust next year. Hopefully we already had the gardening accident (Adam Robinson?).
Perhaps this is our mystery that is best left unsolved.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
by Nickhawk08 on Jan 10, 2012 4:25 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Best review ever.
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
We all have to eat the excrement sandwich from time to time.
Some days we get mayonnaise, some days we get mustard, and some days we have to eat it plain.
And some people choose to be proactive and just chomp down on the ass.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 10, 2012 10:19 PM CST up reply actions
You can't dust for vomit.
You just can’t.
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."-George Bernard Shaw
Look what happens when these guys leave and go someplace else,
nothing.
by 2LastNameWideReceiver on Jan 10, 2012 4:27 PM CST reply actions
Not exactly
"Bama Hawkeye, you know, the Iowa blogger who actually uses reason and analysis." - Patrick Vint
"I thought it was laughable when you first put it up, but you were obviously smarter than me." - PurdueMatt
http://www.offtackleempire.com
by Bama Hawkeye on Jan 10, 2012 4:34 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Missouri Valley Conference.
Let’s just put that fire out before it has a chance.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Jan 10, 2012 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
That's still doing something.
Especially considering UNI was competing for a national title. It’s not as if Iowa dumps these kids and all of a sudden they have nothing to look forward to except moving furniture.
by The Mexican't on Jan 10, 2012 4:47 PM CST up reply actions
And the national champion (North Dakota State) is an MVFC school.
And UNI was damn good, too.
by One Night Stanzi on Jan 10, 2012 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
Did you really just use the MVC to prove a point?
Especially football.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Jan 10, 2012 4:40 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, they are similarly sized backs.
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 4:46 PM CST up reply actions
Right. Because he's like every other back in the conference.
Thanks. I’m going to compare all B1G to Ron Dayne, all SEC backs to Hershel Walker. That okay with you?
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Jan 10, 2012 4:46 PM CST up reply actions
He's another BCS transfer RB
I understand you’re pissed about Coker, but everyone else is too, so don’t be a douche. If Jewel’s knees are okay he will absolutely get a look from NFL scouts. He won’t have the same profile as if he’d stayed at Iowa, but he’s better than anyone else we have here. It’s not like all those RBs were spare parts.
The saddest for me is Robinson—I really do think concussions played a role in his life, and the college football system screwed him over worse than most.
Plus
the reason he went MVC is because he had already used his redshirt year. He couldn’t afford to blow another season sitting out to play at an FBS school.
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by Bama Hawkeye on Jan 10, 2012 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
You're right, I'm being an ass.
Apologies all around.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Jan 10, 2012 5:00 PM CST up reply actions
No worries, I kicked a dog
So fucking frustrating.
by Notclevr on Jan 10, 2012 5:38 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
I see what your saying.
I think stats like that would look better on a Big Ten team and to the guys at the next level.
by 2LastNameWideReceiver on Jan 10, 2012 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
Look what happens when these guys experience difficulties,
work their way out of them, and finish with their best effort.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 10, 2012 10:23 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
Return in 2013?
it said in the post that they thought he would return in 2013 was Coker to be suspended for the entire 2012 season?
" I don't wanna sit around watching you 'give it your best.' Either stop sucking or get the f#ck out of the way.."...SMDS
by J.R. Angle has a posse on Jan 10, 2012 4:29 PM CST reply actions
No, I just fucked up.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Suspended
until 2013
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Jan 10, 2012 4:35 PM CST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
I'm suspending myself for ordering a suspension
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Jan 10, 2012 4:36 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I'm suspending you for suspending me suspending myself.
Fuck it, we’re all suspended.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
This is me right now.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Jan 10, 2012 4:35 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
What are you doing in Stanzi's living room?
Tell him we say hi.
by Notclevr on Jan 10, 2012 4:36 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
So I'm waiting for the joke.
This post was meant to be satirical, a la the post where Matt Gatens announced his transfer a couple of years ago?
LOL
PakiOMeara25 Paki Tanielu O’Meara
Man, I don’t remember this much of a fuss when I left the #Hawks haha
by Captain n Diet Coker on Jan 10, 2012 4:29 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
You gotta love Paki
When he isn’t actually getting carries, that is
"He lowballed us and said: 'Take it or leave it. If you don't take our offer, you are rolling the dice.' I said: 'Consider them rolled.' " - Jim "Huge Brass Balls" Delaney
by ClaybornSmash on Jan 10, 2012 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
SPECULATION IN THIS THREAD LOOK AWAY
I still think it was academics. Too hard a major.
When I was a UI physics major
most of the turnover was after the first semester. ~50 kids went down to 25. But only eight of us graduated.
by TheCornballer on Jan 10, 2012 4:49 PM CST up reply actions
First semester in major = SO year, right?
No way you can do that plus 40 carries a game.
There are also stringent NCAA rules
On academic progress toward degree, so those classes can’t be deferred to later on or taken during the summers.
by One Night Stanzi on Jan 10, 2012 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
You would think
with the departures of McCall, Reiff, Raymon, Coker, and Grant as well as the graduating seniors and making Malloy a walk on instead of a scholarship player, we would be hearing about a big recruiting class with less than a month to signing day. Doesn’t seem to be.
Scholarships for all walk ons!
Proud Husband, Father, and PESSIMIST
The class already has 17 verbals, which is right around where many people thought it would be
It’s now going to be much bigger than that. They’re still in on some 4-star guys.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
I am pretty sure short of offering guys low on the list
you can’t just turn it on and find quality guys this late in the process. I forgot Coe didn’t make grades to get in.
Maybe the SESleeze is onto something with oversigning. Stupid B1G rules.
Proud Husband, Father, and PESSIMIST
by Feelin' Orney on Jan 10, 2012 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
Coe can't come back until 2013.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yeah, I meant I left him off the initial list of players that had rides and left
Proud Husband, Father, and PESSIMIST
by Feelin' Orney on Jan 10, 2012 4:45 PM CST up reply actions
Sheesh, that's 4 of the top guys from the last recruiting class
They were a lot of the reason the past class was considered good.
/puts noose around neck
by Captain n Diet Coker on Jan 10, 2012 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
They're still in on 2 4-star offensive linemen from Colorado
They’re in the last 5 for both. And they are in the last two for a lineman from Kansas (Nate Lohn, I believe). Us vs. Stanford for him. And they’re after a few running backs, one of which is committed to BC but has opened it up. He’s highly-regarded and being recruited by OU now.
So no, you usually just don’t pull things like this out of the fire. But they’re still in on some good prospects. Some good players still haven’t decided yet.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
Goodnight, sweet nocturnal canine prince of nose candy
(and I’ll toot my own horn one last time my part in coming up with Coked-up Werewolf—although I’m sure someone else would have made it there had I not. It was one of those organic open thread dealies.)
I’m happy to suit up as a fat, slow RB for 4 years, if it means breaking whatever curse we are under. I’ve already been in school for like 10 years, but I obviously haven’t used any football eligibility.
This sucks.
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Jan 10, 2012 4:34 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Meh, they're not being used much right now.
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Jan 10, 2012 5:46 PM CST up reply actions
That hit me just right.
Bravo, Orson Wells/Gary Busey clap, and all that.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 10, 2012 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
This happens so many times
I don’t even stress it.
But I sure wouldn’t want to be Lester Herb……nope.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Jan 10, 2012 4:37 PM CST reply actions
I am pretty sure you ment Lester Erb.....maybe not?
" I don't wanna sit around watching you 'give it your best.' Either stop sucking or get the f#ck out of the way.."...SMDS
by J.R. Angle has a posse on Jan 10, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
Correct. Erb
But with all the DJK, ARob, and Coker being thrown around the fumes made me light headed. Thanks for the catch!
by hawkinsandmelrose on Jan 10, 2012 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
It would be even WORSE to be Lester Herb, though.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 10, 2012 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
Heard it on Coast to Coast!
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Jan 10, 2012 4:45 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
No.
A.M.
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 10, 2012 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
Last night during the Nat. Champ game they showed a voodoo witch or something...
so I’m pretty sure there’s a Hawkeye voodoo doll with a number in the 20s or 30s that was born shortly after Tate-to-Holloway.
I blame Mike Hall...
he planted the seed
"Black is a color of power and strength, and to see all those players, with the captains linking their arms in front-it's a powerful picture."
...Hayden Fry
by chuck longs mom on Jan 10, 2012 4:38 PM CST reply actions
OR HE'S FROM THE FUTURE
Damn dirty time travelers…
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Ever since this happened everything has been fucked up
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
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by The Bird Cult on Jan 10, 2012 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
Strait bullshit
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
by Nickhawk08 on Jan 10, 2012 4:39 PM CST reply actions 7 recs
Fun fact
First 3 Google results of “strait bullshit” redirect to BHGP
by the notorious r.d.m. on Jan 10, 2012 5:03 PM CST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure that Google now ranks search results according to factors like geographical location,
previous searches and clicks, and browsing history.
To find truly “pure” search results, you need to browse anonymously.
by The Final Gun on Jan 10, 2012 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
I live in Tennessee and am currently browsing anonymously in a separate browser
And the top three results for “strait bullshit” link to BHGP
Good, a useful data point. That's cool.
I was just sharing a factoid that kind of weirded me out when I heard it the other day.
by The Final Gun on Jan 10, 2012 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
Uh-huh.
We discussed this. Persons objected.
Logic, grammar and punctuation: much preferred!
by I_am_Querulous_Yellow on Jan 10, 2012 4:42 PM CST reply actions
The signs aren't pointing to this being the coaching staff's doing.
But hey, feel free to congratulate yourself.
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 4:45 PM CST up reply actions
Consistent turnover and churn are always a function of management. Always.
Logic, grammar and punctuation: much preferred!
by I_am_Querulous_Yellow on Jan 10, 2012 4:48 PM CST up reply actions
"consistent"
Please note that these are 18-21 year olds. Shit happens. Looking at a uniform outcome (when its a binary choice) and saying “SEE?!?! PATTERNS!” is not good analysis. You need to know why in order to develop a case against someone on the staff.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Jan 10, 2012 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
Very good point.
Hell, I went to UNI my freshman year, totally convinced I was going to minor in music, then I found out a) how difficult that would be given the way the music program was structured, b) most music majors were assholes and c) it was nearly impossible to get laid by a cute girl at UNI.
So I transferred to Iowa, and things were MUCH better about a week into summer school :)
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Jan 10, 2012 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
it was nearly impossible to get laid by a cute girl at UNI.
Despite my complete lack of game, I still managed to do it somewhat frequently, though not as often as I would have liked.
Yup, totally pumping myself up here. Anything to bring a little levity to this FUCK SHIT PISS CUNT situation.
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
Sorry, management is paid, or not, based on your "binary outcomes".
Nobody gives a shit about the Stats 101 attribute analysis that you suggest is called for here. Management is paid to manage the attrributes.
Effective organizations do not consistently lose key players, ever.
Logic, grammar and punctuation: much preferred!
by I_am_Querulous_Yellow on Jan 10, 2012 5:10 PM CST up reply actions
I'm with this guy
And curious why more questions about the coaches’ roles aren’t raised. I’m also in favor of stats and it appears we are rapidly approaching a suitable sample size.
by theflagshopisoutofstock on Jan 10, 2012 9:30 PM CST up reply actions
I've tried to raise plenty of questions but often (always?) get shouted down.
It is my opinion that management is definitely at fault.
They are either causing players to leave, or they are recruiting players without the “character” to hack it.
meh
Because it is Iowa,
how many elite athletes can you get that “have the character to hack it”? Probably less than you need.
Also, if a player doesn’t see much opportunity for playing time, or gets into trouble, does that all fall onto the coaches, or not? I’d lean not, but I’m sure it will be chalked up to my blind faith in Ferentz.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 10, 2012 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
But they don't recruit elite athletes anyway!!!
They’re built on getting good character, high work-ethic guys who stick around and reach their full potential. You can’t recruit second-tier guys who ALSO don’t have the character to stick around or stick it out. You’ll never be better than 7-5 or 6-6 if you do that.
meh
They can't take only under-the-radar or second-tier guys.
The fanbase will whine and moan more than they do now.
And, it is difficult to predict what a 17 to 23 year old boy/man is going to do. Iowa, ISU, and UNI have all had issues with this over the last few years.
I don’t know what the answer is, except to set clear expectations for behavior, and hold people accountable when they don’t meet them. Perhaps avoid being draconian except for the worst offenses (assaults, etc).
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 11, 2012 7:45 AM CST up reply actions
By any accounts anyone has
secondhand or otherwise, this one wasn’t on the staff. I think Coker’s post about being a Hawk for life, etc. would probably confirm this, as he probably wouldn’t be so prompt to post things like that if it were an acrimonious split.
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
Although he comments
that he was suspended for something he didn’t do. That sounds like he feels like the staff is unfairly punishing him, and it’s now become a stigma that he doesn’t feel he can get over. If KF is accusing him of a crime that he has not been proven guilty of, then IMO it is totally on the staff.
Who said it's KF that punished him?
Again, it was a University issue, not athletic department issue.
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
I don't think he thinks the staff (the football staff) is punishing him
This seems like an administration thing
by Captain n Diet Coker on Jan 11, 2012 8:41 AM CST up reply actions
Someone go find Sam Brownlee
he would lead us to the promiseland
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey
by White Lightning on Jan 10, 2012 4:42 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Not trying to be all speculatory but if it were grades or cheating related as to why he is leaving
would he even have been enrolled in classes? That’s why my bet is on his mom yanking him home.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 4:42 PM CST reply actions
As in they said he withdrew from his classes, so he obviously was still allowed to go to school there.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 4:43 PM CST up reply actions
Failing classes and even cheating don't usually prevent you from re-enrolling
You might get probation, and you’d have to make up the credits to get a degree, but it’s not like Iowa is West Point or anything.
I think you're onto something. Momma doesn't appear happy.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Jan 10, 2012 4:45 PM CST up reply actions
And Randy Edsall does need players
But still. Ugh.
He's leaving for the sweet Uniforms @ Maryland. I knew it.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Jan 10, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
I'm willing to be to bet he's homesick...
And its possible whatever he did to fuck up the student code was very, very embarrassing. It will come out eventually, and we will either be saying “um, yeah, I guess we’re glad he’s not here” or “how the FUCK could you be so dumb?”
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Jan 10, 2012 4:49 PM CST up reply actions
Is it wrong that I hope he forcibly sodomized Stephen Bloom?
I suppose it is. But it’s kind of a nice thought, considering it involves anal rape.
by Notclevr on Jan 10, 2012 4:51 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
/Lisbon'd?
Okay, okay, might have crossed a line there
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
Hunt this, bitch!
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 10, 2012 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
And oh... THIS MOTHERFUCKING SUCKS BIG HAIRY DONKEY BALLZ
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
Not to get you too excited, but AJ Derby was a goo high school running back for a year.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 4:51 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I like goo.
"I mean, are they going to poop their pants or are they going to get tough?" ~Tom Brands
(waves back) Hey, how you doin'?
Call me when you get home…
/Friday’d
"I mean, are they going to poop their pants or are they going to get tough?" ~Tom Brands
That one was right over my head..
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
In the movie "Friday"
There’s a great scene between Mrs. Jones and Mrs. Parker. It starts with, “Hey girl!”
Sorry. I needed to stop thinking, commenting, and obsessing about Mr. Coker. I no longer care. As my friend Robert always says when one of these guys quits on us, “Good! Fuck him! Next man in!”
"I mean, are they going to poop their pants or are they going to get tough?" ~Tom Brands
And of course I don't really mean that.
I hope this works out for Coker. I know he loved Iowa and I loved watching him play. It’s just…sad.
"I mean, are they going to poop their pants or are they going to get tough?" ~Tom Brands
Is your friend Robert
FlyingDutchman1?
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
by Brock8144 on Jan 11, 2012 12:12 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Well, why not rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic then?
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Jan 10, 2012 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
He played two ways in high school too
Does anyone know if he punted and kicked FGs?
He was the punter, not sure about kicker.
You probably don't remember me as Settles7thYearofEligibility.
by Mike Brownlee on Jan 10, 2012 5:01 PM CST up reply actions
James Morris was a good HS RB for 3 years
/not sure what my point is
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
Oh by no means am I insinuating Morris would be a great option there
people were throwing out names, and I didn’t want to be left out of the party
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
I'm just joking around
I’m not sure what Morris is cut out for in 2012, actually. I feel like Alston or Hitchens could supersede him by the end of the year, but that’s a conversation for August.
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
I doubt it.
I wouldn’t mind seeing what those guys can do. But, I’m pretty sure that, barring an injury to him, Morris will play most of-to-all of the time. I’m just not sure whether it will be at MLB or OLB.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 11, 2012 11:46 PM CST up reply actions
Pretty sure Morris ends up back in the middle
and Hitchens takes over on the weakside (which I am 100% behind – I thought he played really well this year). Alston, I don’t think we’ve seen enough from. I think Morris fits better on the weakside, but I think in order to get our best 3 out there, putting him in the middle & Hitchens at WLB is the way to go.
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
It seemed to me that Morris was really poor at getting off blocks
Hitchens, despite his small size, did better (it seemed) at the Insight Bowl at this. But it’s January 12th, and damn it, I’m just going to pretend we’re fielding the Green Bay Packers next year for a little while.
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
Is he eligible for the draft this year?
"Black is a color of power and strength, and to see all those players, with the captains linking their arms in front-it's a powerful picture."
...Hayden Fry
by chuck longs mom on Jan 10, 2012 4:51 PM CST reply actions
Everybody ready for a sub-.500 season?
I sure as shit am.
I said I have a DRINKING PROBLEM!!
by bornofclay on Jan 10, 2012 4:51 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Nor I
but this year was not good for me being a fan. I worry that next year won’t be either.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Jan 10, 2012 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
Let's just say Coker stayed, and then blew out his ACL in Spring practice
We’d be in the same shit sandwich we are right now.
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Jan 10, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
true that..better sooner than later
"Black is a color of power and strength, and to see all those players, with the captains linking their arms in front-it's a powerful picture."
...Hayden Fry
by chuck longs mom on Jan 10, 2012 4:54 PM CST up reply actions
In some ways, Coker was impeding development of a #2 and #3 RB option as well
Part of that was Kirk’s caution, and part of it was our offense brain farting so much this season that at times Coker was the only thing moving the ball.
We will be OK. This is not like the Tate season where we really had no depth or talent at RB… now if Garmon doesn’t sign or gets hurt and Canzeri on down blows out their ACLs, then panic.
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Jan 10, 2012 4:56 PM CST up reply actions
I like this optimistic TBC.
It’s like, when you’re shitting on the team next year, you can say: “Hey, I’m not ALWAYS down on the team.”
/kidding
meh
... You could've just said "Without Coker, we're fucked"
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jan 10, 2012 5:12 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not,
as I have season tix.
Would be a bummer to see Iowa drop home games to ISU, or OMHR, or Minny, or PSU in a down year.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 10, 2012 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
So...is Greg Garmon college ball ready?
I don’t see Canzeri, Bullock, or Johnson being able to much…
I said I have a DRINKING PROBLEM!!
by bornofclay on Jan 10, 2012 4:58 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Canzeri actually looked pretty good against Oklahoma for his first game.
He probably needs about 10 pounds gained, and he would be great for like 10 carries a game, especially like shotgun delays and draws and screens. Which probably won’t happen.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
COME BACK FROM THE CLIFF!!
People of Black Heart Gold Pants: We have Canzeri, Bullock, Johnson, Dawson, Garmon, and White. Not to mention the fact that at least one more (Lynch or Reid) will commit. That’s up to 8 running backs returning (go fuck yourself AIRBHG, Hawkeys are going to find you and curb stomp your goddamn ass) next year.
Does it suck that Coker’s REALLY gone for reall (he was gone the day his suspension was announced, you don’t get a second chance for taking a test for someone else)? Yes. But if we recruited the above names, why would we not expect them to play at all OR be able to play at all? Recruit a handfull with the HOPE that ONE sticks? That’s not how it’s done. They can all play (maybe not White, sorry buddy) and will now get a chance to.
As I said, I’m so used to it it doesn’t even worry me. Did you hear that AIRBHG? Fuck you and your fucking friend AIDEHG (Angry Iowa Defensive End Hating God). I got some rings, a pipe, and a chain. Take your fucking pick.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Jan 10, 2012 5:04 PM CST reply actions 6 recs
Thanks, asshole
way to call out AIRBHG. Because he wasn’t quite enough of a vengeful prick up until now, you had to go and poke him with a stick.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I'd rather die on my feet
Than live on my knees.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Jan 10, 2012 5:10 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
Seriously, This.
We need to find out what fucking mythos spawned AIRBHG, and give Its nemesis whatever It wants.
Gold, virgin sacrifice, skybox, Maple Hot from the vine….I’m ready to pay.
Mmm, maple hot wings from the Vine
How I miss thee
by Captain n Diet Coker on Jan 11, 2012 8:07 AM CST up reply actions
If we really want to take AIRBHG down for good
We need to take him out.
For a night on the town. Give him/her/it the royal Iowa City treatment. While at the Deadwood, slip a balloon of herione in his/her/its coat pocket. Get him/her/it good a drunk, then go to Panchero’s and intentionally have him/her/it cut in line for his/her/it’s 2 lb burrito. Then slowly disappear as a mob of angry “we punch with our eyes closed” idiots close in and beat the shit out of him/her/it.
When the cops arrive, one of us prop up the girl sleeping on the curb in front of the Brown Bottle and tell her to yell “Hey! That’s the asshole who grabbed me! Kick his ass!”
In your face, AIRBHG.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Jan 11, 2012 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
Can I live on the couch?
I like to be comfortable.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Jan 11, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with nearly nothing HawkinsAndMelrose said today,
but I like this aggressive approach toward AIRBHG.
Cowering in fear from him/her obviously isn’t working. I don’t think we want to give purposeful sacrifices. And that leaves only one response: good old American street violence.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 10, 2012 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
The last couple sentences reminds me of Home Alone, minus the swear words.
You hear me, Im not scared anymore! (Big scary snow shoveler comes into the picture(AIRBHG in this case)). AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 5:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Which therefore compares AIRBHG to Joe Pesci and that other guy.
Whic hmeans AIRBHG will trip over some jacks, slip on some ice, and get scared out of Iowa City by some very poor audio of a gangster movie.
“Keep the change you filthy animal.”
by hawkinsandmelrose on Jan 10, 2012 5:18 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec
AIRBHG is going to get beat up by micro-machines, christmas ornaments on the floor, and a crow bar to the chest.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
Or Joe Pesci from Goodfellas will come in and kill everybody in the fucking face
I would have liked Home Alone a million times more if Macaulay Culkin used “fuck” that much. Also, he dated Mila Kunis, so yeah.
/dafuck?.jpg
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
Le sigh...
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jan 10, 2012 5:05 PM CST reply actions 18 recs
Maybe...
He got into more trouble and would be suspended even further and the year would be a wash so it would be better to go elsewhere. Crap happens. We’ll probably never know.
It's tough living in exile in Iowa after 22 years in the Bay Area. Two things help: 1. Watching Sharks hunt on ice and watching Hawks lose while eating a Chicago-dog.
You know ...
Last night was a full moon.
Just throwing it out there.
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Jan 10, 2012 5:09 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Wow
thats…….i mean………just……….um….
Canzeri, Coe, and Garmon 4 lyfe?
seriously, how do you get ALL your running backs to abandon your fucking school? how does that happen?
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 10, 2012 5:12 PM CST reply actions
4 lyfe? How about "4 a zemezter"
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Jan 10, 2012 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
If we all help him study
can we get Coe to take 45 Semester Hours worth of classes before next fall so he can transfer in? Maybe 30 in the spring and 15 in the summer?
BOOM 4-3 cover 2! Deal with that!
by 99playsNAblitzaint1 on Jan 10, 2012 5:13 PM CST reply actions
Maybe Coker can help out and take a couple classes for him. Everyone needs to pitch in!
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 5:15 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
I laughed until I cried
Then I cried, and cried, and cried.
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
by hkobb7 on Jan 10, 2012 5:26 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This wasn't a surprise to anyone other than us.
We all think that Ferentz and staff don’t have these things already on the radar. Just because they don’t spill the beans from day one doesn’t mean they didn’t know it was going to happen. Coker was expelled from school for academic fraud. You ain’t coming back after that, I am sure Barta and Ferentz were advise from the get go. If Sally Mason gets involved, that means she spoke with the Athletic Dept and Ferentz. Ferentz is obviously better at keeping a secret than we all thought/wished he was.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Jan 10, 2012 5:14 PM CST reply actions
Easy on the speculation (true or not)
TAYLOR MARTINEZ IS AIDS ON TWO FEET -@DanBeebe
by The Nihilist on Jan 10, 2012 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
So how was he registered for classes then?
by Brock Sampson on Jan 10, 2012 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
So when you were in college you registered for classes one week before the semester?
Or at your early registration time. Registered in November. Like all students do. Get kicked out in December, after he registered.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Jan 10, 2012 5:22 PM CST up reply actions
He dropped his classes today, he didn't register today.
Per Dochterman’s tweet
Iowa AD Barta says Coker withdrew from UI, asked for his release this morning. Said he won’t “go into details” per Coker’s convo with KF
by The Mexican't on Jan 10, 2012 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know what to think
but that isn’t a very telling quote.
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 10, 2012 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
Wait, wasn't James Morris a RB?
Sign the boy up. After all, he IS a phenom.
BOOM 4-3 cover 2! Deal with that!
by 99playsNAblitzaint1 on Jan 10, 2012 5:15 PM CST reply actions
Yeah, we seem to have
a lot of LB returning, the impossibly slow white Iowa RB is back baby!
TAYLOR MARTINEZ IS AIDS ON TWO FEET -@DanBeebe
by The Nihilist on Jan 10, 2012 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
He'll fit right in with AIRBHG
Seeing as his ankle appears to be made out of toothpicks, he’ll wreck his ankle after about 10 carries. So yeah, #JamesMorris4IARB!
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
The potential effect that this trend
and all the recent personnel issues all around the team could have on recruiting scares the poopsauce outta me.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jan 10, 2012 5:15 PM CST reply actions
You mean because it allowed us to get a 4 star RB?
Every good RB thinks he will be the one that works out, and I’m certainly hoping that’s the case.
BOOM 4-3 cover 2! Deal with that!
by 99playsNAblitzaint1 on Jan 10, 2012 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
Two 4-star and potentially 3 (Coe) that left the program.
It’s alarming, there’s no two ways about it. I doubt most recruits would think too much about it, but those that do might be afraid of that trend.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jan 10, 2012 5:37 PM CST up reply actions
Eh.
Good recruits don’t care about battling other good recruits (or players) for playing time; I doubt they worry much about voodoo curses or speculative vengeful deities.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
That would be kind of awesome if they did. I want a RB that believes in Norwegian gods.
But what I was trying to say is this; if recruits do notice the trend of players leaving the program and the bad vibes surrounding it because of that, it could become an issue.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jan 10, 2012 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
Yo Ross, you forgot the punchline for the joke you were making.
/waits
//crickets
///furk
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jan 10, 2012 5:19 PM CST reply actions
So who is our RB coach anyway?
seriously, im close to wanting him fired just to see if our luck shifts. its starting to feel like more than a coincidence.
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 10, 2012 5:19 PM CST reply actions
Lester Erb
TAYLOR MARTINEZ IS AIDS ON TWO FEET -@DanBeebe
by The Nihilist on Jan 10, 2012 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
Isn't our hat trick
AJ Derby (QB version) throwing to
TJ Fedorawitz and
Zach Derby?
Draw the play up. AJ takes the ball, throws a backward pass to Zach, who launches it to Fedorawitz.
BOOM 4-3 cover 2! Deal with that!
by 99playsNAblitzaint1 on Jan 10, 2012 5:29 PM CST up reply actions
When did we get another Fiedorowicz brother on the team?
Twitterz: @EnergizerHawk
by EnergizerHawk on Jan 10, 2012 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
Time for the Templeton boys (and ladies)
it’s going to be a loooong offseason.
Ross, could we please get a lot of posts on Coker and McCall running some sort of ridiculous scheme to take over the world posts please?
TAYLOR MARTINEZ IS AIDS ON TWO FEET -@DanBeebe
Ok...look
I’m fucking sorry…but this has gotten to the point of pure goddamn ridiculousness.
Where the fuck is Bloodpunch going to Ferentz and saying “what the fuck is going on with your program?”
Where is the UI Administration (ie Sally Mason) going to Bloodpunch and saying “what the fuck is going on with the football program”
Iowa makes more damn news for players that have left this program the past few years than what players have done on the field.
Its time for some serious investigation into this program. Things simply do NOT add up anymore.
by FlyingDutchman1 on Jan 10, 2012 5:20 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Also, THIS GUY!!!! Can't believe Coker fucking quit on his team.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
Who says..
That Coker quit? For all we know..the UI may have told him—you should really go somewhere else.
The problem again..is that no one knows what the hell is going on inside the UI football program or the UI Athletic department. Its easier getting information out of the goddamn CIA than it is from the UI football program.
Something is going on that is either A. causing players to leave this program or B. there are two standards being used for players who mess up. You’ll recall that James Ferentz has not one, but TWO alcohol related offenses—he’s still here. Yet, Coker and McCall—are gone—yet, they have not been charged with any sort of criminal offenses.
There is SOMETHING going on in this program that needs to be investigated…
by FlyingDutchman1 on Jan 10, 2012 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
Your meds are calling
Please take them.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Jan 10, 2012 5:33 PM CST up reply actions
If you dont see a problem..
Fine. Turn a blind eye to the problem…see what that does for this program.
Accountability runs both ways my friend, both from players..but from the coaches as well.
Its becoming apparently clear that there are two sets of standards for players in the UI program….
by FlyingDutchman1 on Jan 10, 2012 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
I would agree that there seem to be multiple standards at work in responding to player misbehavior. Of course, we don't know all the details, but it seems like guys who fit the Ferentz mold get a lot more leeway.
by The Final Gun on Jan 10, 2012 7:10 PM CST up reply actions
How so?
When dealing with comparable offenses, it seems to be pretty consistent, I think
'Ferentz mold' players don't get in trouble.
As soon as you get in trouble, you’ve broken the mold! I don’t recall too many players getting off scot-free after getting in trouble. Even lil J Ferentz paid a stiff price for his indiscretions.
by The Director on Jan 10, 2012 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure being suspended
for the season that he was redshirting anyway really had that much effect on him
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
That was the first time.
The second time he missed a couple games, had to go to counseling, complete community service, and suspended from all team activities.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 10:23 PM CST up reply actions
No, both occurred during his freshmen year
when he was redshirting. So again, there was no real detriment to him on the field.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Neither Coker nor McCall
were booted from the team. And by all accounts, the Coker issue was not related to the coaches. But I need to stop feeding
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
I didn't say anyone
he has quite a track record of it. But whatev
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
Yeah, the guy is a troll
and I don’t care what he is saying. He is a troll because the ONLY time he posts here is when something bad happens. Then he comes in and riles people up, you will never see him when things are going well.
DRUNJIFORNICATION
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jan 11, 2012 7:45 AM CST up reply actions
no, he posts other times
he’s just so unmemorable and uninteresting when not being a troll that you might not have noticed
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jan 11, 2012 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
Or maybe they both fucking transferred, did you ever think of that one sonny?
Ferentz was suspended for both occasions. You’re just purely speculating that they were kicked off the team when it certainly, or most likely was their choice.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
Yes...
Ferentz was suspended, so was Zach Derby..both were welcomed back with open arms..all was forgiven.
Robinson, Hampton, McCall, Coker—as soon as they were suspended—all were essentially dead to KF and the program. Yet..none of them were charged with any sort of criminal offense whatsoever.
by FlyingDutchman1 on Jan 10, 2012 5:42 PM CST up reply actions
Ferentz welcomed all but Robinson back, but they decided to transfer.
And Hampton transferred after two torn ACL’s. Maybe Ferentz and Derby actually manned up and took their punishment.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
LOL...
I got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you if you want to keep on believing the company line.
by FlyingDutchman1 on Jan 10, 2012 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
You're a riot.
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 5:49 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I'd agree that something might seem to be wrong at Iowa
but one could make the case that 4 and 5 star guys leave Miami and USC and etc etc etc all the time, but we don’t hear about it because we don’t care about those schools as much and because they have a bevy of other 4 and 5 star guys.
It happens, and the shit sucks when it does.
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 10, 2012 10:40 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
One of the really sad things about this
is that he may not have done anything wrong (at least he felt that way). In a Facebook post from last week he said “Everything happens for a reason..cant tell people i did something when i didnt. So hints y i never answered those questions. Anyway thanks everyone for the support especially hawknation and fam. Go hawks..hawk for life.”
by Captain n Diet Coker on Jan 10, 2012 5:22 PM CST reply actions
well there it is
he used facebook. we all know Ferentz hates it when his players have lives and personalities!
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Jan 10, 2012 5:23 PM CST up reply actions
Well..
again..this gets back to my point. There needs to be some serious investigation into the Iowa football program. Questions need to be answered. Things simply do NOT add up any longer.
by FlyingDutchman1 on Jan 10, 2012 5:24 PM CST up reply actions
is he a regular troll?
Something tells me I’ve seen him on hawkcentral.com.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Jan 10, 2012 5:31 PM CST up reply actions
Everytime someone leaves he throws a fit and DEMANDS ANSWERS!!!
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
The athletic department is self sufficient
due to the football program.
There. I answered. You all know that is the correct answer.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Jan 10, 2012 5:46 PM CST up reply actions
More accurately
ALL athletic departments are self-sufficient due to THEIR football programs.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Jan 10, 2012 5:57 PM CST up reply actions
Iowa State isn't.
And I’m sure there are other examples.
by The Mexican't on Jan 10, 2012 6:13 PM CST up reply actions
Not quite
lots still take state funds. We don’t, and until that changes, they will be given a great deal of latitude.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Jan 10, 2012 6:13 PM CST up reply actions
Almost no college athletic departments are self-sufficient
Only 22 or something absurd like that.
by nerdhawk on Jan 10, 2012 6:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
this
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 10, 2012 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
Very few departments are. Like less than a dozen, maybe.
Almost all need University funds to fill in the gaps.
by One Night Stanzi on Jan 10, 2012 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
Only one possibility remains: COLOMBIAN DRUG RING!
I didn’t know Mark Wahlberg’s character from The Other Guys commented here!
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
What is this?
December 2010?
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 10, 2012 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
This is/you are ridiculous
People taking the side of 19-21 year olds over Kirk Ferentz. All of the football players have facebook, and they are still on the team. This has everything to do with the individual and nothing to do with Ferentz.
Yep: Ferentz really had it in for Coker. He used comments like “better person than a player” all the time, hiding his desire to ruin his life. Get a grip.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Jan 10, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
Plus like what does FlyingDutchman think is the problem that there needs to be an investigation?
I don’t think this is the case with Coker, but with some of the others I would bet it’s because they are self centered, egotistical babies.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
Accountability...
runs both ways. Players should be held accountable..but so should the coaches and administration.
When you have so MANY players who have left this program in such a short amount of time…questions HAVE to start being asked.
by FlyingDutchman1 on Jan 10, 2012 5:39 PM CST up reply actions
It's confidential. And it's none of your fucking business what 18 to 22 year olds,
decide to do with their life.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
I don't even need to say the words, a picture is worth 7 words.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 5:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Ah yes..
That time honored line.. “its confidential”..
Really? Hmm..KF was saying as late as last week that he expected BOTH McCall and Coker to be back..then within days…both are gone.
So you want to try that again? Again…the line we get out of the UI program and reality…aren’t adding up anymore.
by FlyingDutchman1 on Jan 10, 2012 5:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Because maybe KF told them he wanted them both back, but set guidelines.
And maybe, just MAYBE, they decided they didn’t want any guidelines so they left like babies.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
Again..
Since there is no openness or transparency into the UI program..no one knows what the hell is happening.
We’ve all seen what happens when a football program is left out on an island and held with no accountability… The Penn States, the OSU’s…the Miami’s…SMU’s…should have taught people that…
by FlyingDutchman1 on Jan 10, 2012 5:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Iowa=SMU and PSU?
You’re trying too hard now.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jan 10, 2012 5:50 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
That’s exactly what’s going on here. KEEP DIGGING!
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 5:50 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Where is Oliver Stone when we need him?!
This is an Oscar-worth script in the making
I am drunk.., or I wouldn't be talking to you.
by codenameduchess on Jan 10, 2012 6:10 PM CST up reply actions
Except you know, the thing about Iowa is that their opaqueness, if you will.
Is to protect the privacy of the players. Also Iowa disciplines players the right way. Honestly, don’t be dumb.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
Too late for him.
Him already dumb.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Jan 10, 2012 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
Okay, okay.
Using your logic (a stretch), then Coker would NOT have been suspended, DJK would have NOT been suspended, etc.
The schools you mentioned all hid their rule violations. Ferentz kicks them off the team immediately. Enough already, guy.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Jan 10, 2012 5:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Except he didn't kick them off the team, well DJK and A-Rob.
The others all chose to leave. There are actions that you take that cause consequences. And maybe those players didn’t want to face up and deal with the consequences.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 5:55 PM CST up reply actions
WOOOOOO
It means we’ll win a National Championship, baby!
Well, except for SMU. That just means we’ll produce Craig James. It’s totally not worth it.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Jan 10, 2012 5:53 PM CST up reply actions
Kirk Ferentz for Senative!
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Jan 10, 2012 6:00 PM CST up reply actions
Lol. Absurdity has reached new level.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Jan 10, 2012 7:03 PM CST up reply actions
Nice disparaging of the young men's characters!!!
At least some of us are shitting on the grown ass coaches, not 18-22 year olds and calling them babies. Good one, bub. Blame the kids that cycle through the program, not the adults that have been running the program going on 13 years.
meh
So blame the coaches that make and enforce the rules?
Not the kids that break the rules and then transfer? Ok got it.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, pretty much.
I’d rather criticize the grown men than the teenagers, and calling them pussies and disparaging their characters.
But you go right ahead and call the young men names and say they’re all weak-willed and whatever bad shit you can say about them to keep the coaches from having any blame.
meh
I would love to see where I called them pussies first of all. But thanks for putting words in my mouth.
I will admit I called them babies a few times but having been through a similar situation in college myself, I think some of them have handled it poorly. I am not saying that the coaches have no fault, but when they reinstate the players, or say they expect them back on the team, and then the players transfer anyway, it’s a personal choice.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 10:13 PM CST up reply actions
There was a day when almost all of BHGP's interactions were civil and based upon a general respect and a desire not to see this site descend into message board baiting and insults.
Then the run-up to the 2010 season happened.
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 10, 2012 11:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Meh.
There have always been some insults and baiting.
Maybe not always a lot, but some.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 10, 2012 11:07 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure it was the run-up
as much as the 2010 season happened.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
You may be right.
Seemed like the average IQ here went down 5 points for every loss over the last two years.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jan 10, 2012 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
Mo' readers mo' problems.
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 11:14 PM CST up reply actions
Curse of popularity, I guess.
/not hipster’d
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jan 10, 2012 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
It'll all be okay soon, because
Marchifornication is knocking on BHGP’s door, and Commissioner Breadman has some fun lined up.
Who will be the first to fall?
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 10, 2012 11:17 PM CST up reply actions
Again, that is false. Nobody called them pussies,
besides one person saying it sarcastically when they were calling me out too.
by clay-born to party on Jan 11, 2012 8:59 AM CST up reply actions
They don't add up if you believe they give a shit what FlyingDutchman thinks
Get your head out of the sand, where have you been? They say the same thing every time. Until the player leaves, they release a statement that they expect them back. Until it’s official, it’s not true.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Jan 10, 2012 5:49 PM CST up reply actions
Most of this site...
…seems to write better press releases than the athletic department. I’m glad at least someone is asking something.
Eventually, you have to quit making up Flying Spaghetti Monsters and admit that AIRBHG is KF, and KF is AIRBHG.
by Nyghtewynd on Jan 10, 2012 7:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
AIRBHG is KF, and KF is AIRBHG
AIRBHG is a multi-headed beast. But I do think that the culture of the program is at least partially to blame for running back attrition. Player transfers and dismissals are way, way to high.
by The Final Gun on Jan 10, 2012 7:15 PM CST up reply actions
Hmmm. It's been said that KF doesn't like his players to have personality.
And in my incomplete memory, we seem to lose mostly RBs WRs and CBs (with a few QBs thrown in). Those tend to be the positions that tend to have flash/attitude and some personalities that might be a little confident in themselves (they kind of need it to play those positions).
Perhaps those attitudes come into conflict with the KF way of doing things.
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 10, 2012 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
If that was true
how the hell did DJK make it 4 and 7/8 years?
McNutt has some personality.
So do/did plenty of other players (Mitch King, Matt Roth, Drew Tate, Brad Banks, Angerer, etc).
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 10, 2012 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
I don't want to reopen this debate, at all
but are you really trying use DJK as an example of the smooth-sailing a player with “attitude” will experience at Iowa?
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
What I'm saying is
if KF hates players with personality, why would he have put up with DJK for so long?
/I’m not saying he should have thrown DJK away before the drug bust. I’m just saying I don’t think KF minds personality (particularly with upperclassmen) as long as it isn’t distracting and problematic.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 10, 2012 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
I don't mean to fan the flames...
but DJK may be the reason KF has tightened down the discipline. He may have been burned for the last time with his departure. I think it changed him for good.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Jan 11, 2012 5:50 PM CST up reply actions
I think DJK walked a very fine line during that time
& never quite pushed it far enough to do more than be an irritant. (At least until the 12/10 fiasco, of course.) DJK seems less bull in a china shop than ARob, McCall (mainly for the strait bullshit comment), etc, & more tongue in cheek.
The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.
by HawkeyeGirleye on Jan 10, 2012 11:17 PM CST up reply actions
DJK was in the dog house for 4 and 7/8 years.
McNutt gave up the QB spot (selflessness), and is me-tic-u-lous while working doggedly on the little things so he can be perfect. That’s a KF guy.
Roth was a crazy defender and Norm loved him. King did it KF’s way. Tate was a leader, which KF values. Banks was too awesome to keep off the field, especially after The Future transfered (there’s one of those headcase QBs). Angerer was a KF guy through and through, who worked his ass off for his shot despite several reasons to quit or transfer.
Hell, AC strutted a little on the field too, but he was another shut-your-mouth-and-put-the-work-in guy who toed the official line (he got lost going to southern Iowa to talk to school kids when he didn’t have to for christ sakes).
My point remains.
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 10, 2012 11:25 PM CST up reply actions
HIS NAME IS ROBERT PAULSON
You may be on to something.
by Notclevr on Jan 10, 2012 7:26 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Dude, when KF said he expected both to be back
well, that was his code word for GONE BABY GONE.
I actually mentioned it to my wife that I didn’t like hearing those words from KF, because last year and the year before he said the same words and those guys all disappeared.
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 10, 2012 10:48 PM CST up reply actions
this
from a guy that called me pathetic for not telling the rumor I heard for Coker leaving, regardless of the fact that I don’t know if its true and did want to accuse a young man for something that may or not be fact.
It’s confidential. And it’s none of your fucking business
No no no. I just don't understand coming on here and saying you heard a rumor.
And then being like nahh I am not going to tell you.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 6:48 PM CST up reply actions
I was responding to a post
that asked for who was at fault. I stated that it wasn’t KF’s fault and purely Coker’s fault if what I heard was true.
By all accounts Coker has been a valued part of the U of I and out of respect for him and the program I decided not to randomly throw out another rumor/accusation. Call me an attention whore or whatever, that makes me lol actually, but the kid is gone and he ain’t coming back.
Well that's not the way it seems to be worded but I apologize.
I get worked up and I was reading through the comments fast.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
no worries
we’re all very passionate about Iowa football around here…
At the end of the day, we’re talking about a young man’s life and it shouldn’t begin and end solely with football.
At least 2 of the players
Raymon & Grant basically cited homesickness as their reasons for leaving. Hardly a vote against the coaching staff. While we don’t know exactly what the deal is with Coker, it seems (from what I’ve heard and a few I’ve read here) to be a University issue, and not a staff one.
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
Raymon spoke out against Coach Kaz last month.
Basically saying that if Coach Kaz weren’t around, he’d have stayed in Iowa City, but now he’s got a kid so he can’t come back.
by The Mexican't on Jan 11, 2012 7:50 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I'm glad Coach Kaz is gone
It sounds like he took the hardass thing too far, and I don’t think he really deserves all that much credit for the DL production 2-3 years ago either. Pelini can have him.
To be fair
Ferentz is the one getting $3m/yr and the 19 year olds are the ones getting lifelong health problems including brain damage. So Ferentz may or may not be in the right in a given case, but he is NEVER the one who needs looking after.
by Notclevr on Jan 10, 2012 5:34 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
If it was academic dishonesty there is an appeals process
there always is and if he felt he was not guilty of it he could appeal it. What makes this whole thing odd is that it seems increasingly like it was something rare, yet bureaucratic.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I'm sure somehow this has to be KOK's fault
Can we list KOK as a RB so AIRBHG will take him out?
BOOM 4-3 cover 2! Deal with that!
by 99playsNAblitzaint1 on Jan 10, 2012 5:27 PM CST reply actions
KOK IS AIRBGH and this is all his SAW type set-up.
That way he can view it from up-close.
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 10, 2012 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
Well, fucking shitcocks.
God titfucking damn it. Balls on fire in Hellfuck. FUCK!
James Woods.
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
by hkobb7 on Jan 10, 2012 5:29 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Ooo! Piece of candy!
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
by Brock8144 on Jan 11, 2012 12:28 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Dolph tried to call him out
and DJK swagged right back at him.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jan 10, 2012 5:42 PM CST up reply actions
Nevermind. Not Dolph.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jan 10, 2012 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
What gave it away?
When “Gary Dolphin” demanded answers from the staff and changes?
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
LOL
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 10, 2012 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
Can you link it?
I don’t usually partake in the twitter but would love to read what he had to say.
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 10, 2012 11:33 PM CST up reply actions
It's here
https://twitter.com/#!/DJKoulianos
Starting with the “As a RB recruit” post on January 10th.
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
Well, shit, that didn't work
https://twitter.com/DJKoulianos
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
Regardless of who is directly or indirectly at fault for Marcus Coker no longer being a Hawkeye
the larger, much LARGER issue here is that Kirk Ferentz’s program has difficulty managing talent. It’s not that Coker is the last straw or an outlier or that Kirk’s hands were tied or not tied, it is that under his watchful eye players disappear at an alarming rate. Were not talking about players who are sitting on the bench and want playing time, we’re talking about established stars. Hands wiped, move on.
Of course, people make bad decisions all the time, and certainly it appears every player that has evaporated from the roster over the past few years has the same sad story: they exercised poor judgement within an institutional setting that seemingly has very little tolerance for youthful imprudence. It seems extreme to me and is unlike anything I experienced as an undergraduate. If you look at this from up high, institutionally, someone needs to explain this.
When I worked at a university and there was attrition creep (and this would more than qualify for that) we would look student by student at those that left and asked ourselves this question: How did we fail this kid?
I hope KF is asking this question and not just promising some RB more playing time.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Jan 10, 2012 6:01 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I agree that it's alarming but maybe the guys we recruit, that get into some sort of trouble,
just don’t man up to the consequences.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 6:04 PM CST up reply actions
This isn't the NFL though... technically college is a place where you become a man.
So we never got a chance to develop young Marcus into that full fledged adulthood.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
My point is if they choose to leave, unless we just start denying their release
to make them into a man, Iowa can’t do that much about it.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 6:07 PM CST up reply actions
Well DJK was gone because he only had one game left. Robinson had 2 academic issues
plus marijuana. Coker and Mccall both transferred as far as we know by choice. Wegher we don’t really know, but he has been screwing up everywhere.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
Don't forget Jewel, Bailey, Brown, Pugh, Guillroy...
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
All I'm saying is this is beyond the realm of usual
so it begs for analysis. I doubt KF wants guys leaving at the drop of a hat or guys leading themselves out the door. So look at this with an open mind.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I am, and I realize this is an extreme case of attrition.
I just get worked up by people like flyingdutchman who come in guns ablazing demanding answers about everything.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
Good leaders stop these things from continuing. They just do.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
And by that do you mean the moderators should stop flyingdutchman
and Ban him? ;)
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 6:33 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I don't think we can blame KF for Brown and Guillory.
Didn’t Brown have an assault issue of his own? And didn’t Guillory basically see 2 or 3 RBs ahead of him and decide to leave?
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 10, 2012 9:57 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know that "blame" is the right word
or what Stoops has in mind. But there seems to be a systemic problem in Iowa football, where a large number of players are not being failed by those who are in charge. What appears to be troubling is that the coaching staff just rolls along with these repeated punches, and never seems to address the key question: How did we fail this(these) kid(s)?
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
But did the staff fail guys who did wrong on their own time?
I don’t really know everything that happened yet with Coker. It seems as though KF was pining for him.
I think it is very shitty to blame KF when kids do wrong in their apartments or wherever, and then also blame KF when he does administer disciplinary measures. I think StoopsMyAss has done this (or come very close to it).
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 10, 2012 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
I blame Lester Erb!
He was the WR coach when DD and the City Boyz, Inc. went down and has been the RB coach during the worse of AIRBHG. Clearly it’s all his doing!
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Actually,
Erb does strike me as kind of disconnected from the players. If you watch the Ferentz Sunday night show, they sometimes show certain coaches working with the players, talking at them, etc. I can’t recall seeing one with Erb.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 10, 2012 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
They edit those shows so you see what they want you to see.
You know that.
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 10, 2012 11:39 PM CST up reply actions
Well, if they are hanging out smoking pot
those guys with the pot didn’t just wander into their living rooms.
Sure undergrads might offer players pot, but nobody gets done with a workout and just decides to take one up on it. Those guys are hanging out with people they probably shouldn’t be, and coaches can try to teach them about good decisions.
It wouldn’t work every time, but it’s a start. But maybe they’ve done that already. Who knows?
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 10, 2012 11:42 PM CST up reply actions
We honestly don't know what KF's response has been
and likely never will. We just see more guys leaving and no answers.
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 10, 2012 11:38 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah right
Every one of these guys were pussies and didnt man up. The sheer volume of transfers and dismissals makes your argument wrong. They can’t manage kids, take it to the NFL coach.
"The more I get hit, the more they git hit" - Marcus Coker
I didn't say they were all pussies, my point is if they choose to transfer, then they choose to transfer.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 6:08 PM CST up reply actions
Guys who are starters and making contributions tend not to look for greener grass
in my experience.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Which starters have transferred though?
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 6:12 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not only highlighting transfers. I am focused on evaporations.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
well said.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Jan 10, 2012 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
Then recruit better players.
For a team that supposedly values “character” in its players, it sure isn’t getting high-character guys if you’re right.
I really do love this “blame the 18-22 year olds, not the adults” line, though. It’s quite refreshing in a really stupid way.
meh
I wouldn't say they necessarily aren't high character. But they did break team rules,
which are most likely much stricter than most all other schools. Now let’s say McCall for instance broke team rules and got suspended. Nobody believes the rules he broke to be anything that terrible, but if upfront you know the rules and still break them, you have to be held accountable. If McCall then thinks that it was strait bullshit, and transfers that’s his decision. It doesn’t mean he is a bad person, low character or anything like that. Maybe he is just an immature young kid.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
Or, as you (or someone else) put it, he's a pussy.
Everyone breaks rules. Especially non-criminal ones. Without an NCAA violation nor a criminal endeavor* (both of which WOULD be on public record at some point), more than a 2-game suspension is not called for. McCall had already served that. If he was going to get suspended for more than a game or two next year, then the punishment was far too harsh for anything he did.
*or just being straight academically-ineligible which would also be found out eventually
meh
But you just proved the point I am trying to make. Kirk said he expected Mccall
to be on the team next year. Did he ever once say that Mccall would be missing games or not have a chance at playing time? Because I do not recall that at all. Maybe McCall thought that he was in the doghouse and decided to leave because of playing, or maybe he wanted to go closer to home, or maybe he just didn’t like the school.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
When did I ever fucking say he told the truth 100% of the time?
You are awesome at spewing bull shit, congratulations.
by clay-born to party on Jan 11, 2012 9:00 AM CST up reply actions
Bullshit to you. It was absolutely implied.
When you said, “Kirk said…” and then offer no reason why this time would be different than any other, and that one is supposed to accept his statement as truth of his beliefs.
If you don’t believe he tells the truth all of the time then using his statements as a verification, in and of themselves, of something is pointless. You can’t just say “Kirk said…” and act like that makes it something he actually believes without offering some sort of evidence, rationale, etc for why, even though you believe he does NOT tell the truth all the time (as you just implied, except of course, you can say you never said you don’t believe him, because you actually didn’t. you just implied that you don’t think he’s telling the truth), why he is telling the truth this time.
It is funny to me that different people on the “pro-Ferentz” side say that he both never knew either was leaving and that they knew all along.
meh
Has McCall actually transferred? Or is he still "intending" to do so?
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Jan 11, 2012 6:16 PM CST up reply actions
I think he was officially granted his release.
Which, to me, would mean he’d have to beg his way back on to the team.
I’d be kind of shocked if KF allowed it, but I guess we can’t say “never.”
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 11, 2012 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
No, it means Ferentz is a corrupt power hunger maniac.
And is plotting to destroy the entire University by creating athletes who are morally bankrupt, allowing them to terrorize the utopia of Iowa City as payback for years of reverance.
Having the choice to leave at every opportunity for more pay, better players, and professionals, the Evil Ferentz plotted and manipulatad violent overthrow. He did this by giving the Hawks something to feel good about, winning teams, teams with NFL talent, and a small national presence.
So yes, FlyingDutchman and other conspirists, Kirk Ferentz has finally achieved his goal of tricking everyone into thinking we were good, we had a place, and we actually mattered in soprts. That asshole.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Jan 10, 2012 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
If you run a program based on minimizing variance
then you don’t want guys on your team who show they are unpredictable. It’s kind of stupid when you’re talking about a highly unpredictable group like 18-22 year old male college athletes, but I’m sure that’s KF’s NFL mindset at work.
When you get a good group, who also has talent, it’s gangbusters.
When you don’t, it causes a lot of distractions.
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
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"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 10, 2012 11:51 PM CST up reply actions
I would second this
But may I add, some of these kids were ‘problem’ kids. If someone wants to say they all were, then something is wrong with the recruit evaluation process.
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Jan 10, 2012 6:05 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Look, in college you have to do everything you can to work with kids. As we used to say
80% of the work is done with 20% of the students.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
So true!
Das Stochern gewinnt.
by Blackheartnopants on Jan 10, 2012 6:09 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Very well said
Though, that it has really happened at one position is strange. We have offensive linemen who survived with “youthful indiscretion”, same with defensive back and defensive line. For some reason running back seems to be hit with an inordinate amount of these incidents.
Still, some sort of evaluation is nescessary and I hope the staff is able to find some answers for this.
http://victorypolka.blogspot.com/
Up above I mentioned a theory, and I'll expand here.
I think some of this has to do with the nature of OL. Those guys practice the same few steps over and over and over, and they rely on their teammates for everything. Their mindset is sort of based on doing their jobs despite not getting a ton of praise or really getting noticed. When they mess up they say “I’ll do better next time” or something and set about doing the same few steps a bunch more times. I’d guess that translates to non-football mess ups as well (in many cases, if not most).
Skill position guys are used to having the spotlight. They make it up as they go and rely on their skills to keep from getting killed. They also take a lot of the blame if a team doesn’t score (rightly or not). I don’t want to blanket “skill players” with one particular mindset, but I could see a lot of these guys having a bit more attitude when they get into trouble, and maybe KF is just used to them taking the blame more squarely for on-field issues, and does the same thing (consciously or not) with off-field issues.
Just a thought to kick around.
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 11, 2012 12:04 AM CST up reply actions
Well said.
In my opinion, anyone who doesn’t seriously question the people who run this program are definitely turning a blind eye to the entire situation.
Either Ferentz has ridiculous (and possiblye double) standards or they can no longer evaluate “character” in players.
meh
I think Jess Settles has a couple of years of eligibility left
seriously though i am sad
without informaton your mind wanders
into the ultimate he said she said we said they said
we probabably will never know
like my grandson coming out of the lockeroom at half time the other night
they were down twelve (they have never had that) and his head was on his chest
i told him after the game that if he wanted to give up that soon
he might as well come out of the lockeroom in street clothes
and let someone else play because he surely showed the world
he thought it was over
they got it to six but still lost their first game
We all cherised Mssr. Coker and what he gave us
for that i am thankful and grateful
and if he lurks here please accept my thank you
It is sad it won’t continue, for whatever reason
if anyone else still left on the team reads this
just do your best, there are a lot of us who believe in you
and what you give to the university we all love
albeit in different ways,,,
and you will always hear this frommy lips
GO HAWKS
Her noblesse exceeded her oblige
by OhioHawk on Jan 10, 2012 6:03 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
I'm done with Ferentz
It’s not 1972 anymore, at some point you have to adjust whether you like it or not.
Uhhhh - how is this a Ferentz adjustment issue?
For that matter, how is this a Ferentz issue at all?
"I mean, are they going to poop their pants or are they going to get tough?" ~Tom Brands
......
…there are no words. You can’t be serious.
.....
…there are words. It’s called student code of conduct. In which the athletic director or higher is mostly in charge of what happens
by rupertj on Jan 10, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This is a academic issue, not an athletic department one.
KF cleared Coker to return just several days ago. Yes, this is an alarming trend, but there are several instances where the kids chose to leave the program, not the other way around.
by One Night Stanzi on Jan 10, 2012 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
FERENTZ DIDN'T EVEN COACH IN 1972
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT
/nonsensevs.nonsense
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 8:21 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Smeg.
Smeg indeed. Here’s a clip to express how I feel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8MzQxz3PYQ
"I just told the team that if I see one single man with a smile on his face, I'll bust him in the mouth. Losing is losing and we didn't play well. These kids have been babied and pampered so much when they lose that it makes me sick. Losing and looking good is a bunch of crap." - Hayden Fry
Um. He's saying "merde." It's french for "shit."
I thought you were talking about smegma.
(Be excellent to each other.)
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 11, 2012 12:11 AM CST up reply actions
Smeg Part 2.
Here is what I’ll be doing to feel better about this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsBrd3u1JZw&feature=related
"I just told the team that if I see one single man with a smile on his face, I'll bust him in the mouth. Losing is losing and we didn't play well. These kids have been babied and pampered so much when they lose that it makes me sick. Losing and looking good is a bunch of crap." - Hayden Fry
ZIGGY PIGGY ZIGGY PIGGY
ZIGGY PIGGY!
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 11, 2012 12:12 AM CST up reply actions
It's a drag, but not a huge surprise.
All along, I wondered if Momma wouldn’t pull Marcus back home, for example, though this has the flavor of something expected not happening—for instance, maybe Marcus and KF thought the ‘incident’—whatever it was—would blow over, or be resolved in Marcus’s favor, and then it wasn’t, from the administrations’ POV. This is just rampant speculation, but during the appeals process, they’ll maybe let someone continue in their studies as if nothing occurred, but as soon they lose the appeal, they’re out—bam. I have to wonder if some event did not occur along those lines, which might explain why Marcus was still enrolled…until he wasn’t. We’ll probably never learn the whole story. But it strikes me as incredibly sad.
I truly wish Marcus the best. We’ll be fine as Hawkeyes, one way or another. I only hope Marcus will be, regardless of what allegedly did or did not happen. But I think he’ll land on his feet—his mother will keep him on the straight and narrow, I think! She is not a woman to be trifled with. I would not be surprised to see him playing on the east coast, likely even Maryland or WVA, in a couple of years. He’s still got two years of eligibility, right? Make a 120 mile circle around DC. and that’s where I think he’ll end up, in that circle.
As for next year, it’s going to be the two-headed monster of Canzeri and Johnson, with Garmon SLOWLY coming into play.
Finally, for all those blaming KF—don’t. This was an academic issue, utterly out of his hands. I’m going to give him a pass on this one. I’d even bet that Ferentz strongly wishes Marcus would’ve been able to stay. This is not a DJK situation, fellas.
If he tries to transfer and he was on academic probation or worse
His options will be severely limited.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Wait, everything is changing in this story all over again!
Now there’s word of an ‘assault’ investigation that apparently has gone nowhere, also apparently leaving Marcus rather bitter about the U of I, likely leading to the transfer, none of which seems to have been KF’s fault, but rather the U of I admins’ fault, for those looking for blame.
Crazy day, huh? The narrative is changing pretty quick, who knows what we’ll learn tomorrow, right?
by The Director on Jan 10, 2012 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
I think that was resolved and is not relevant to his suspension, but likely is relevant to him leaving
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I, for one,
welcome our new running back overlords
by silkhawk on Jan 10, 2012 6:55 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
Marcus Coker status
Welp so much for that. It was a good 2 years iowa..best 2 I could of asked for. Thanks again for the support. I really wish I could tell u guys wats goin on cuz its really ridiculous to b punished for somethin I didnt do. Id like to think the coaches and athletic staff for everything. Hawk for life
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 7:01 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Hey, look...information!
I hope he keeps talking. If KF is too high and mighty to do so, maybe he will.
by Nyghtewynd on Jan 10, 2012 7:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If Coker can't talk about it, KF probably can't either.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 7:06 PM CST up reply actions
Just wait.
Once he gets a school to attend, he will. He doesn’t owe Iowa anything.
I didn't say he owes Iowa anything, maybe he just legitimately can't disclose it right now.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 7:24 PM CST up reply actions
I can't imagine why that would be
Unless it were something that somehow would affect his NCAA eligibility and was being covered up. He’s not under scholarship. I guess it could be something involving potential legal action, but there’s no word of that.
"too high and mighty"?
get over yourself.
by rupertj on Jan 10, 2012 8:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think we're employing a football coach.
You obviously think we’re employing a god. I bet I’m right.
What is your deal?
Does your condescending tone not come with an off-switch? Because I have never seen you communicate on this site without one.
There is no way that Paki rushes for nine yards. -KenOKeefeIfuckinghateyou.
ding
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 11, 2012 12:16 AM CST up reply actions
Well
This doesn’t look so good.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
by Nickhawk08 on Jan 10, 2012 7:25 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
That was talked about before. Like his ex girlfriend lied about it because she was mad at him or some shit.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 7:26 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, thanks for the head's up.
Hadn’t seen it yet. Sorry about that. Ignore.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
But it's all speculation so I dont know the real truth. Maybe its legit, just letting you know.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 7:30 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks, I appreciate it.
Need to go back through this all again. Blew up between the time I left work and got home.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
I was going to reply to someone specific, but I decided against it and decided to share my opinion:
Would you want personal details about your life (i.e. flunking out of school, etc – nothing illegal and part of public record is included) that could cause harm to future opportunities to become personal knowledge?
If EnergizerHawk was expelled from school for [reason redacted], would EnergizerHawk want the general public knowing the reason why? EnergizerHawk says, “Hell, no.”
These students are student-athletes. They are students who happen to play sports at an elite level, as such, they are STILL students. If you are not their mother or other relative, you don’t deserve to know personal details about their life. You might have donated money towards the athletic organization, but that does not justify you knowing details about a student-athlete’s life that should not be personal knowledge. The only times you should ever hear about a student screwing up is if they are your son or daughter, or best friend, etc, OR if you’re a chronic reader of the police blotter OR if you read anything written by P.Harty.
I keep thinking of Nile Kinnick and wondering what he might think about the public perception on the athletes for our fine University. I can’t convince myself that he would say that student-athletes should be on a higher “platform,” so to speak. In fact, if he believed this, then why did he enlist for the armed forces? I believe Kinnick truly epitomized the role of the student-athlete, where Student comes first and comes with all the rights afforded a regular student.
I can’t bring myself to criticize any of the athletes who choose to leave and pursue other opportunities. Yes, I might be disappointed that they might not have reached their potential while with us, but they will always be a Hawkeye in my heart. I will remember the Insight Bowl. I will remember Purdue 2008. I will remember Warren Hollaway. I will remember BJ Armstrong, Chris Street, Kachine Alexander, Vivian Stringer, Dean Oliver, among many others, too numerous to be counted.
Once you’re a Hawkeye, you’re always a Hawkeye. I will bleed Black and Gold, hate OMHR and encourage my future offspring to do the same.
Go Hawks!
Twitterz: @EnergizerHawk
by EnergizerHawk on Jan 10, 2012 7:48 PM CST reply actions 17 recs
My point is that it's the players decisions. You guys are trying to blame it on Kirk Ferentz
Sometimes people just don’t end up happy where they were. So many people transfer every year, and I am talking non-athletes. I will say I don’t mean to call them babies, my point is that if it is their decision to leave, and if it is because they are mad at KF, then that is their own problem.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
But if they were mad at Coach K, then HE'S the problem because he's a dick and not an Iowa guy, yada yada.
or I guess he was free of any wrong-doing, too.
Can you think of ANYTHING that would cause you to question the coaching staff’s handling of these situations?
meh
I would question it if there were mass transfers.
I would also question it if Kirk Ferentz were kicking players off for minor team rules. But that doesn’t appear to be the case, he enforces them with the suspension or what not and then it is up to the player to decide how he wants to handle the situation.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 10:18 PM CST up reply actions
Until players speak up and are told otherwise,
I am not going to become some gung ho conspiracy theorist and accuse everyone but the players that are actually transferring.
by clay-born to party on Jan 11, 2012 9:02 AM CST up reply actions
the reasonable people around here are making me give out recs like they're candy
and i’m ok with it
by sailorjerry on Jan 11, 2012 9:57 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm with Stoops.
This has gotten to the point where it seems to be a systemic, institutional issue moreso than a “few bad apples” issue. This needs to be addressed, questions need to be answered, and this epidemic needs to be fixed, immediately. People can bitch all they want about Ferentz’s kajillion dollar salary when it comes to wins & losses, but it’s this kind of stuff where he earns his money – or doesn’t.
"WELCOME TA EARFF!"
It's really becoming just about time to stop watching college sports
This shit is really getting old. I’m very glad that football season is over. That’s about all I can muster right now. Fuck.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jan 10, 2012 8:14 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
I don’t even know what to think any more.
My porn name is HogOfHawkness
by HeartOfHawkness on Jan 10, 2012 8:21 PM CST reply actions
check this link from the Des Moines Register
http://hawkcentral.com/2012/01/10/assault-investigation-predates-cokers-suspension/
From the article:
“According to an Iowa City Police Department incident report from Oct. 28, 2011, obtained by an open records request, Coker was the suspect of an assault investigation initiated that day.
According to that report, a woman reported to police that she was the victim of an assault at Coker’s residence, 618 Iowa Ave. The alleged assault took place sometime between 1:15-1:30 p.m. on Oct. 28.
The circumstances surrounding the assault are not detailed in the report, but it does note that the responding officer was dispatched to the University of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics for a sexual assault."
by StrandedinIndiana on Jan 10, 2012 8:23 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
An "Accused of sex crime and you're out of here" clause
Instituted after the last episode?
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jan 10, 2012 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
It occurs to me
at what point does this stop being a really irritating and debilitating personnel issue and start becoming one where it’s causing the team APR score drops near 925? I know we’re not that close right now, but won’t Coker be counted against us for another 3 years and McCall for 4? We’re still paying for the ghosts of RBs past as well.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
We're gonna get on Oversigning.com for a single position
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by therealCatnuts on Jan 10, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
If they transfer to another 4 year institution, they can get the point back.
So Jewel, and hopefully Coker and McCall won’t hurt us.
by One Night Stanzi on Jan 10, 2012 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
I did not know that
good to know, thanks
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Jan 11, 2012 6:22 AM CST up reply actions
Wait a second....
Where have you been? He is being expelled for allegedly either taking a test for or cheating off of another student during an exam.
Is that good academic standing? Sorry to be a jerk, but I think that’s bad academic standing.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Jan 10, 2012 9:48 PM CST up reply actions
He's not being expelled.
He withdrew from classes.
by The Mexican't on Jan 10, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
Notably absent from this post: Facts.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Jan 11, 2012 6:25 PM CST up reply actions
Yep. You're right.....BUT
We played AT Minnesota (thank god), at 2:30 pm on Saturday, October 29th at 2:30 pm. I think we can all agree we saw Marcus Coker in Minneapolis despite Ken O’Keefes relentless attempts (successfully) to eliminate him from the game when we needed a touchdown.
Wouldn’t the team be leaving, getting ready to leave, or already have left for a game that kicked off 13 hours later?
And I am NOT doing anything other than asking a question before I begin to pass judgement or form an opinion. As a matter of just basic operations, what time would the team leave? They spend the night in Cedar Rapids for home games, so what time would they leave for a game in Minneapolis? Before 1:00? After? It’s only a few hours away, so they might not leave until late afternoon. Again, just curious before I start freaking out.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Jan 10, 2012 9:59 PM CST reply actions
The timeline seemed very weird to me too
Which very well could have played in a role in why there were no charges (just pure speculation). Also, the team landed in Minneapolis around I think 7:30 that night (the video coordinator posted a picture of the Hawks landing that night on Twitter). Don’t know what time the team would have to meet up, take the bus to the airport, etc, but that’s a pretty slim timeframe and a strange time for something to go down. Not that I’ve never partaken in a little afternoon delight (and I’m not calling this situation a ‘delight’ by any means), it’s just weird in this instance and not typical of an assault if there was one.
by Captain n Diet Coker on Jan 11, 2012 8:36 AM CST up reply actions
If you start at kickoff and work backwards
…well I did last night because I’m sick in the head. And I ended up with the team leaving or meeting at around 1:00 pm on Friday. Which is 90% me making the pieces fit into place as I hope they do and not as they actually did.
Either way it’s not good, if you own a flux capacitor or not.
by hawkinsandmelrose on Jan 11, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
Hasa Diga AIRBHG.
/bookofmormon’d
There is no way that Paki rushes for nine yards. -KenOKeefeIfuckinghateyou.
by iamalex13 on Jan 10, 2012 10:18 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
LOL
Fuck you, AIRBGH, in the ass, mouth, and cunt-a
Hasa diga eebowai!
Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.
FUCK YOU IN THE EYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEE
There is no way that Paki rushes for nine yards. -KenOKeefeIfuckinghateyou.
To those confused:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3i_4NML1fw
WARNING: contains extremely offensive content. TOTES NSFW.
There is no way that Paki rushes for nine yards. -KenOKeefeIfuckinghateyou.
People may say this doesn't work because athletes are different than the students.
But the Attrition rate for students is 24 percent. I would venture to guess that Iowa’s football team is well less than 25 percent. I think it is just such a crazy deal because they are all running backs and I have no real explanation for it. I’m sure not to this extent, but I would bet that running back and QB are 2 of the higher positions of attrition. Seeing as, often times, those positions are filled with prima donna players. That’s just one theory and maybe its a systemic issue, but I don’t think it’s there yet.
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 10:30 PM CST reply actions
And injuries are going to be higher for RBs, as they take hits more than most positions?
I would have thought WR was higher up than QB or RB on the “prima donna player” ranking. And I haven’t even mentioned the worst position for that (fucking punters!?!)
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 10, 2012 10:32 PM CST up reply actions
Ahh true I forgot about WR's. Well my point remains that a lot of running backs
want to be THE GUY
by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
I mentioned that too.
Glad I’m not Lone Wolf on that.
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 11, 2012 12:36 AM CST up reply actions
Aaaaaaaaaand now it's looking like DL recruit Jaleel Johnson is having second thoughts.
"WELCOME TA EARFF!"
by Bucketochicken on Jan 10, 2012 10:32 PM CST reply actions
At this point, who wouldn't?
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 10, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
I saw it too, but it seems odd for a DT to be worried about the program with RBs leaving.
Especially since there’s probably a good chance he could make a phone call and get the news if he wanted it.
by The Mexican't on Jan 10, 2012 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
Yes. It begs a lot of questions.
"WELCOME TA EARFF!"
by Bucketochicken on Jan 10, 2012 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
On the other hand,
is there any position with more ready-made playing time within a year or two than D Line?
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 10, 2012 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
You mean aside from RB?
Probably not.
by The Mexican't on Jan 10, 2012 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
And, we still allegedly have a couple of RBs,
plus Brad Rogers (he’s not a senior yet, right?)
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 10, 2012 10:47 PM CST up reply actions
Well, the addition of no defensive coordinator probably adds a little sumtin'-sumtin'
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by One_ill_KevinJ on Jan 11, 2012 6:27 PM CST up reply actions
I like you, Tyger, but you seem really riled up tonight.
Everything ok?
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by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 11, 2012 12:42 AM CST up reply actions
I think you're missing tyger's rather dark humor
in that, whenever a player leaves/decommits he immediately becomes, to a segment of the fanbase, a bad kid with “character issues” and we’re better off without him (and he wasn’t any good anyway).
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I didn't see anyone saying that on this thread.
by clay-born to party on Jan 11, 2012 9:15 AM CST up reply actions
Certainly more prevalent on other Iowa message boards
but posters calling transferees “babies” does not a ringing personal endorsement make. Plus, there have been a couple of people in this thread (a very small percentage to be sure) that seem to take the attitude of “well, he got in trouble/suspended, ipso facto, he must be a bad kid>”
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I feel like this program is trying to walk up the steep part of a sand bunker.
Ever since the Orange Bowl, we haven’t found a solid footing.
There is no way that Paki rushes for nine yards. -KenOKeefeIfuckinghateyou.
hopefully garmon gets the nod and becomes a 3-4 yr starter
if he does, he will become iowas 4th starting running back since shonn greene in 08-09 i believe. not counting canzeri and paki. coker is maybe the last guy i would expect to get in trouble. airbhg is one tricky bleeping son of a gun!
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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 11, 2012 12:28 AM CST up reply actions
KF has often said his primary job is to develop these kids into men.
I have no problem with a tight run ship. Not enough of this these days. We overindulge today’s youth – especially athletes. If this keeps us as a mid tier football program then so be it. Real integrity (not the fOSU type) is rare these days.
It's so sad how a family can be torn apart by something as simple as a pack of wild dogs.
by FiveSecondRuleChef on Jan 11, 2012 5:15 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Don't understand the timeline here.
IF Coker’s suspension and departure were a result of the sexual assault allegations and investigation in late October, why did it take two months from the date of the alleged incident for him to be suspended? Did it take that long for the disciplinary process to play out through the Unviersity and the Athletic Department? Perhaps they took several weeks to conduct their own investigation and sat on it until the end of the year/term. After the Pierre Pierce and Cedric Everson fiascos, I would understand and expect the University’s serious, deliberate, and thorough treatment of such a matter…but I also would have expected Coker to be suspended while the investigation was ongiong.
Based on Coker’s comments, it sounds like if it were up to him, he would still be a Hawkeye, and he’s not leaving by his own choice. This leads me to believe that he was suspended form the University for academic or disciplinary reasons, and he decided that he needed to move on in order to continue his education, rather than sit around in limbo for a semester or longer, waiting for re-admission.
We’ll miss you Werewolf. Sorry it didn’t work out here. Thanks for the past two years, and good luck.
Reading between all the lines
My sense is that his suspension was for academic “misconduct” and his subsequent reinstatement hit a snag on the bureaucratic/administrative side of things (not the AD or coaches).
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
That's weird
my message double-posted, and didn’t include all my non-subject line typing.
Short of it, it appears as if Coker’s suspension was for academic “misconduct” and there was a snag in the reinstatement process on the administrative/bureaucratic side of things (not the AD’s office or the coaches).
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Maybe you're right. As I said, the timeline for the assault investigation just didn't make sense.
But to have that followed up by an academic misconduct accusation (if that is indeed what happened)…well, that’s just a shitty semester. Would be miserable enough being accused of incident #1, followed by a loss to (barf) Minnesota.
Werewolves are often misunderstood, as we have learned from Teen Wolf and the Twilight saga. Best go back to hunting vampires, howling at the moon, and gazing at the stars.
Is it possible that
the same person (a female) who accused him of the assault, then may have accused him of or expose the possible academic issues when the assault case never went anywhere?
Basically, what I’m asking: Is Brittney Mears up to the same old shit?
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 11, 2012 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
And yes, my comment was complete speculation, but was meant mostly as a joke
so please, nobody cite it as an “inside source”, and please don’t ban me for disparaging someone’s honor.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 11, 2012 10:13 PM CST up reply actions
It's not just the timeline
Didn’t the original reports had the police denying that there were any criminal investigations going on? Does that mean that potentially the police were denying it because it was an ongoing investigation that they couldn’t comment on, or was it closed because they hadn’t found anything to substantiate the claims?
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by chitownhawkeye on Jan 11, 2012 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
I think the word from the police in December was "there are no on-going investigations"
Which, to me, means they’d already closed the file on the report from October, so the police gave the correct, but not entirely complete answer to the question.
by The Mexican't on Jan 11, 2012 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
What I want to know is
does Sam Brownlee have any younger brothers? He seemed to be immune to AIRBHG.
by DrHenryKillinger on Jan 11, 2012 10:28 AM CST reply actions
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