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Defensive Coordinator Search Update

We still have a couple of names we think are worth examining on the short list, but before we return to the rampant speculation and character assassination here, a few items of interest:

(1) Tom Bradley is in play, according to random internet bro (also, Johnson and Vanderlinden are out).

On Saturday, Tom Bradley was formally terminated at Penn State. He issued an eloquent statement thanking the school and everyone associated with it, and that's that. Larry Johnson Sr. (defensive line coach) and Rob Vanderlinden (linebackers coach) will be retained in their positions. PSU is reportedly hiring Ted Roof as the new defensive coordinator; you might remember Roof as the guy who was coordinating Tim Brewster's defense during 55-0.

No, go ahead. Laugh.

Get it all out of your system. I'll wait here.

You better? OK, back to it.

The fact that Bradley is out isn't shocking. He's been in the football program for more than thirty years and replaced Jerry Sandusky; the scandal took him down. Of course, he's now available, which means we have about three seconds until...

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The tweet above has set off a message board wildfire, where one person types "OMG!" and the next types "Sandusky LOL" and then a guy with a well-endowed woman in a photoshopped KOK bikini as his avatar types that he saw Bradley eating slices at the Airliner with Tommy Schutt and then everyone throws poop at each other. It's been awesome.

The information comes from "Sekrah Sports", which is apparently just a guy with a Twitter account who claims to be a Penn State insider and thought Les Miles was going to take the PSU job. This is what we in the business call a discredited source, and the information should be taken with a grain of salt until someone with ties to the Iowa program can corroborate.

Star-divide

There is one interesting aspect to the Bradley situation, though. It's been the assumption of virtually everyone that, should Phil Parker not get the defensive coordinator position, he would not be long for Iowa and could well leave for another position, creating another opening that would need to be filled quickly. I agree with the sentiment (though "not long for Iowa" may mean he leaves in 2012 or 2013), but an opening at defensive backs coach might not be the worst thing in the world should Bradley get the job. Iowa would almost certainly be switching from cover 2 to cover 3, and Bradley's long-time defensive backs coach Kermit Buggs just got a pink slip. Buggs has only been at PSU for four years -- no Sandusky baggage -- and recruits New England and Texas.

(2) We have a better chance at Clay Aiken than we do at Ron Aiken.

There is a small group of fans who are strongly advocating Ron Aiken (profiled here) as the best, most qualified way of expanding on the Norm Parker philosophy. Aiken, it was thought, could convince the rest of the staff to stay, add some NFL nuances to COVER TWO ALL THE DAMN TIME, and improve recruiting in Texas. Plus, Arizona is widely expected to shake up the defensive coaching staff, and Aiken's contract was expiring at the end of the season, so the time would be right.

So much for that contract thing: Aiken signed a new agreement with the Buzzsaw to remain defensive line coach. And that should pretty much do it for the Ron Aiken movement.

(3) Timelinin'!

This week's On Iowa podcast beat me to it, but (believe it or not) there are some timeline issues created by the timing of the position posting. UI Athletics didn't post the defensive coordinator opening until December 28, presumably because they wanted to extend the process so long that I would profile Mike Sherman as a potential successor. The job posting doesn't expire until January 18. The athletic department can apply for a waiver from the time requirements mandated by the state, and they are frequently given (there was a waiver for the McCaffery hire, for instance), but there's been no indication that such a waiver has yet been requested. In fact, Kirk Ferentz might be using the late posting as a rationale for keeping the search open for as long as possible.

The reason why: The American Football Coaches Association convention wraps up tomorrow. Both Ferentz and his staff have been heavily involved in the AFCA for years; Ron Aiken was a member of their executive committee while he was at Iowa, and Norm Parker's receiving their Assistant Coach of the Year award (the presentation is actually tonight, I think). Ferentz is there, his staff is there, and coaches under consideration are surely there. The interviews are taking place in San Antonio right now. If Ferentz returns tomorrow or Thursday, that gives him a weekend to review the candidates and make his decision. Most are expecting news this week, but I'd be surprised if we hear anything before next Tuesday.

UPDATE: (totally forgot to include this) THE HORSE RACE

Phil Parker 2/1
Tom Bradley 7/2
Darrell Wilson 9/1
William Inge 18/1
Juan Castillo 75/1
Scottie Hazelton 75/1
Rick Kaczenski SCR (Nebraska)
Mike Stoops SCR (Oklahoma)
Larry Johnson SCR (PSU)
Rob Vanderlinden SCR (PSU)
Ron Aiken SCR (New contract)

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All very rational

but, selecting coaches is more than getting a super talented guy and letting him rip. These coaches work ridiculously long hours side by side. So if O’Brien wants to spend those hours with Ted Roof, who is not a total stiff, that is one of the prerogatives that I believe coaches deserve. If Roof crumbles, then O’Brien will have to take credit for that. But, this is not a Minnesota gig and I hope for PSU’s sake,m O’Brien is not Brewster.

Better men than Ted Roof have been tainted by working under bad leadership. (See Norm Chow at UCLA)

Bradley would be an interesting hire, but not my preferred hire. I would like to see Kirk seek out a guy with some NFL experience and connections. Bradley is KOK in sheep’s clothing to me—a college lifer who’s been riding his HC’s coattails for the better part of his career, and not been on the street trying to make a dollar out of 15 cents.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Jan 10, 2012 8:25 AM CST reply actions  

"If Roof crumbles" should be "if Roof caves in" for maximum comedic effect

And of course you’re right that they have to coexist, and the head coach sets the standard. But, c’mon. Ted Roof? The guy got fired after winning a national championship, for chrissakes.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Jan 10, 2012 8:31 AM CST up reply actions  

He's clearly doing what a new, first time head coach, often does

hiring guys based on trust, not purely based on ability. They worked together at Duke (it appears). The guy (O’Brien that is) already is made to feel vulnerable. I expect him to hire guys who will protect him and defer to him. So even hiring those two Joe Pa leftovers is impressive. But, personally, I wouldn’t hire anyone else that’s even sniffed that place in his career. Otherwise, you’re a dead man walking.

Et tu, Brute?

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Jan 10, 2012 8:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh, he's KFing all over the place

KF’s first staff was old coaching buddies and Hayden retreads (and Norm, who had some serious Hayden blessing). And BOB is doing the same (two holdovers and a bunch of George O’Leary UCF bros), and he probably should.

I’m just saying, the defensive coordinator at Linebacker U just now got the astroturf out of his teeth from when Shonn Greene ran him over three years ago.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Jan 10, 2012 8:40 AM CST up reply actions  

…a bunch of George O’Leary UCF bros.

It sounds kind of dumb, but if you want instant in-roads to Florida high schools, and you don’t want to (or can’t) pay huge dollars to lure assistants away from the bigger Florida programs, then this probably isn’t the worst way to go. Even if George O’Leary is a punch-line because of the resume gaffe.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 10, 2012 8:45 AM CST up reply actions  

BOB worked under O'Leary was the point, I believe...

furthering the point that the coaching hiring technique of a new coach is to often look for guys whose weddings you’ve attended.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Jan 10, 2012 8:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Georgia Tech is where they all worked together

O’Brien and Roof coached for O’Leary at Tech, then Roof got the HC job at Duke.

There has been some talk of Ralph Friedgen (the OC of those Tech teams) being a possibility for OC at Penn State, which would be a very good hire for them. He is an excellent offensive coord. and teacher of QBs.

by H I McDonnough on Jan 10, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

no doubt...

personally, I give BOB (I like that) 4 years. That is just an awful job right now. But I seriously hope I am wrong. I hope he walks into a gig that’s largely been untapped in the latter Joe Pa days. The B1G only benefits from a strong PSU.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Jan 10, 2012 8:45 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree that BOB likely has a relatively short term at PSU.

Feels like he’ll get 3-5 years to help PSU distance the program from the Sandusky issue before they look for a big time replacement.

by The Mexican't on Jan 10, 2012 8:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, he cannot have back-to-back Luke Fickle years

and lose key recruits (which he might with Meyer over the border there. The natives will roast him, Sandusky be damned. But, if he does a KF and shows progress for two years then breaks out he might retire there.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Jan 10, 2012 9:17 AM CST up reply actions  

"Unless we’re locked into some sort of perpetual mediocrity limbo."

No that’s Minnesota, I think.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 10, 2012 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

They're still striving to get back to mediocrity

thanks to Brewster

"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass

by chitownhawkeye on Jan 10, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Mediocrity?

21 years of coaching experiance? A coaching record of 113-61-1!!??

http://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/2009/6/10/905173/wow-thats-a-really-nice-record-hey

Carpe Diem! - Seize the Carp!

by pollo diablo on Jan 10, 2012 2:21 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Right.

I think he’s going to have to be head-and-shoulders better than he’s expected to be to retain the job longer than 5 years. Without a BCS-level bowl win, I doubt he does enough to sway public opinion enough to keep him around very long.

by The Mexican't on Jan 10, 2012 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought all PSU HC contracts

contain a 50 year employment guarantee?

"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants

by Kluginator on Jan 10, 2012 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I couldn't stop staring at the dead volcano that is his chin

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 10, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

For the record, we're collectively warming up to him.

He’s an impressive guy, and as I said in the comments over at BSD, it’s nice to have a head coach talking about his specific expectations and plans.

by Chris Grovich on Jan 10, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

What are you talking about?

JoePa was always quite clear: He expected his tapioca at 6:30 in time for Wheel, and he planned on going to bed at 7:45.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Jan 10, 2012 2:01 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

To be perfectly fair

Shonn Greene ran over pretty much everyone that year

by Black&Gold.Forever on Jan 10, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

If Roof caves in, he will also have to take credit for re-shingle it.

by kythom on Jan 10, 2012 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

…a college lifer who’s been riding his HC’s coattails for the better part of his career, and not been on the street trying to make a dollar out of 15 cents.

Right. Because anyone who has stayed in the college game his whole career is just a no-talent hack. Particularly anyone who had the audacity to be loyal to their alma mater.

There are plenty of big-time college programs with coordinators who have been pretty close to career-college-assistants. A guy who fits that description is Norm Parker, and he seemed to turn out pretty decent.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jan 10, 2012 8:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Norm was far from riding coattails

when he came to Iowa. What is your point? He was at that football powerhouse, Vanderbilt, before coming to Iowa. Rod Dowhower is not exactly what I would call a guy with long coattails.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Jan 10, 2012 8:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I wanna hear an argument between Bradley and Charlie Strong.

“My coattail is longer than your coattail!!”

Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.

by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jan 10, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

C’mon – that’s not what he said Chazz. Only, who knows how good at the coaching thing Bradley really is, considering he’s been one place. Norm hardly fit that description when he came to Iowa.

by txhawkeye on Jan 10, 2012 8:51 AM CST up reply actions  

To expand on that quote

some guys don’t want to be HC. After SDSU, Chuck Long talked about how as HC you were not only further away from the X’s and O’s and the players but you also had a ton of non-football stuff to deal with.

Tom Bradley, we all assume, was hanging on at PSU because he thought he would replace JoePa. That didn’t happen, now he needs a job. The only way I see him coming to Iowa is if KF says to him “I’m going to retire in a year or two and after that you’ll have a huge foot in the door for my job” and Bradley wants to be HC at Iowa. Both of which seem on the long shot side to me.

"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer

by Flakbait on Jan 10, 2012 8:58 AM CST up reply actions  

"trying to make a dollar out of 15 cents"

Obligatory

"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."

by Twin Cities Hawk on Jan 10, 2012 9:51 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Did everyone else but me know that Tupac and Acie Earl were friends?

"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood

by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

All around the world

same song.

"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags

"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 11, 2012 1:15 AM CST up reply actions  

If Roof doesn't work out

they will just send him to the showers.

// JS’d

"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants

by Kluginator on Jan 10, 2012 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Boo

"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood

by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

wrong.

"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"

by One_ill_KevinJ on Jan 10, 2012 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

One guy not on the list who should be considered

is Jim Heacock, formerly Ohio State’s defensive coordinator. It’s not a sexy choice, but Heacock has fielded some of the best defenses in the country over the past decade. He’s also regarded as a decent to great recruiter and he’s an easy personality to work with (he was the 4th longest tenured coach in OSU history and the only coach to span the Cooper-Tressel-Fickell era). His defensive philosophy runs a bit towards the zone coverage/bend but don’t break conservative route, however, and you guys might be sick of that by now.

by Glory of the Going on Jan 10, 2012 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmm
Scottie Hazelton 75/1

GO BISON!

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 10, 2012 10:57 AM CST reply actions  

"This is what we in the business call a discredited source..."

And on the internet they’re called trolls.

Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.

by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jan 10, 2012 11:11 AM CST reply actions  

Hawkeye report

calls it a checked and verified source.

That’s a cheap shot. Which I’m willing to take as I wouldn’t step foot in there.

"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass

by chitownhawkeye on Jan 10, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Nuh-uh!

You’re a Squawkeye fan which means that you love HR! You are such a Tavernhawk! I’ll bet you didn’t even go to Iowa, which means you’re not a real fan! I’ll bet you’re completely illiterate and don’t even know how to use a computer!

/CF’d

"He lowballed us and said: 'Take it or leave it. If you don't take our offer, you are rolling the dice.' I said: 'Consider them rolled.' " - Jim "Huge Brass Balls" Delaney

by ClaybornSmash on Jan 10, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

pretty good 8/10

Needs less coherent punctuation and capitalization. Also, not sure why, but it always seems to be TavernHok.

/Weeps silently in the corner for knowing this.

Executive Producer - WRNL TV

by CyHawk on Jan 10, 2012 11:48 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions   1 recs

That would make sense given that we're supposed to be the "Hokeyes"

Which has never made sense to me.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 10, 2012 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Hok or Hoks

Apparently it’s cool to be a bad speller at CF.

by mikjones24 on Jan 10, 2012 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

I think it means we secretly pine for Brady Hoke for our HC.

"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood

by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

We could probably use a dose of HOKEAMANIA in our lives, if we're being honest with ourselves.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 10, 2012 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't say they were wrong.

"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood

by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Me neither

It’s supposed to be some kind of insult and a play on how “Hawk” is spelled kind of like how we call them “clowns” instead of “clones.” At least “clowns” actually means something.

by Captain n Diet Coker on Jan 10, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Damn...

I guess I can never strive to be in the same category as CF commenters

"He lowballed us and said: 'Take it or leave it. If you don't take our offer, you are rolling the dice.' I said: 'Consider them rolled.' " - Jim "Huge Brass Balls" Delaney

by ClaybornSmash on Jan 10, 2012 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

At least you've learned to do it quietly

"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags

"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 11, 2012 1:18 AM CST up reply actions  

The name "Tom Bradley" gives me warm fuzzies for inane reasons

For outsiders, Tom Bradley was the last well-liked mayor of Los Angeles, maybe the only well-liked mayor of this century. There’s a ton of stuff named “Tom Bradley xxxxx” there, from freeways to LAX terminals. He may have been the first black mayor of a major city as well. Got elected in 1973, which is no small feat for a black man at that time.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 10, 2012 11:23 AM CST reply actions  

When did he switch to coaching?

He sounds old. Does he still have both feet?

by Notclevr on Jan 10, 2012 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Unfortunately, he switched to The Other Side in KF's first year in 1998

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 10, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

He's a lesbian now? I'm lost...

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Jan 10, 2012 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

In heaven there is no beer

But there is a Tom Bradley. RIP.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 10, 2012 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

ah....

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Jan 10, 2012 1:27 PM CST up reply actions  

These odds do not add up

I assume that means the Field is the #3 candidate then?

by Notclevr on Jan 10, 2012 11:34 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah, basically.

What are you, a math major?

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Jan 10, 2012 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

No

But I do bet on things for a living.

And if I were investing a client’s money I’d have to put it on Phil Parker, although like everyone else I’m hoping for Bradley.

by Notclevr on Jan 10, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

It's still a strange feeling to be looking at coaching canidates

I have apparently been taking the impossibly low turnover rate under KF for granted. All of the rumors and speculation have made me appreciate the consistency of our coaching staff. I would dislike following a program that goes through this every other off season. Also, the low turnover rate likely speaks to KF as a person and leader.

I’m intrigued by Coach Bradley, but I suspect KF sticks with the loyalty and promotes Parker. I have no well reasoned argument for this, just a gut feeling about KF.

But "disappointing" is not a synonym for "crappy." - Jacob Peterson

"We are Iowans, for the most part if you tell us to do something we’ll do it. It’s not like we are from South Carolina." - Carfino'sWay

by 6 seconds of hell on Jan 10, 2012 12:18 PM CST reply actions  

Links Please
The tweet above has set off a message board wildfire, where one person types “OMG!” and the next types “Sandusky LOL” and then a guy with a well-endowed woman in a photoshopped KOK bikini as his avatar types that he saw Bradley eating slices at the Airliner with Tommy Schutt and then everyone throws poop at each other. It’s been awesome.

by hawk4trees on Jan 10, 2012 12:55 PM CST reply actions  

There are paywalls in the way.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Jan 10, 2012 2:18 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Do we know how Clay Aiken feels about the cover-two?

Inquiring minds want to know…

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 10, 2012 2:05 PM CST reply actions  

Also, how has no one commented on the naming splendor that is KERMIT BUGGS?

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 10, 2012 2:05 PM CST reply actions  

I assumed it was made up. Like Steele Jantz.

Wait, that’s a real name?

"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe

by Brock8144 on Jan 10, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Am I alone

in assuming he looks like the guy on the left?

"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass

by chitownhawkeye on Jan 10, 2012 5:11 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Oh, God, yes, please

Those that complain that Inception was confusing have never seen Videodrome.

by hkobb7 on Jan 10, 2012 5:15 PM CST up reply actions  

this is Kermit

"There are too many Irish guys on this team"
Joesph Vincent Paterno
April, 2010

by letsgopsu on Jan 10, 2012 5:35 PM CST up reply actions  

so close!

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 10, 2012 8:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Poor Kermit

you can follow him on Twitter

@KBuggsGoPSF

"There are too many Irish guys on this team"
Joesph Vincent Paterno
April, 2010

by letsgopsu on Jan 10, 2012 5:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Since when does "they signed a new contract" mean "not coming here?"

Coaches sign new contracts and then take another job all the time. If Ron Aiken were one of multiple candidates for the DC job, he would be an idiot not to accept a new contract from AZ and risk having no job.

by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Jan 10, 2012 2:55 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Ted Roof, for example...

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Jan 10, 2012 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Interesting Article

On each postition coach’s ability to retain players. Not a perfect 1:1 causation, but some interesting stuff to bat around. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/998929-iowa-football-attrition-is-the-key-to-recent-hawkeye-mediocrity

"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"

by One_ill_KevinJ on Jan 10, 2012 3:37 PM CST reply actions  

This has nothing to do with this thread except just to increase the meltdown

but COKER GONE! I’m sure there will be a Gone Baby Gone post soon, but alkdjf;lajf;dfsalkdnvlfdsakn. That’s my reaction. And done.

by Captain n Diet Coker on Jan 10, 2012 3:39 PM CST reply actions  

It's just sad now

at a certain point it defies understanding and sympathy.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Jan 10, 2012 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

It’s ridiculous. What the fuck …. is going on? It’s someone’s fault, and, god dammit, I demand answers!!

by txhawkeye on Jan 10, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I stated a few weeks ago that we shouldn't be surpised if Coker is gone.

According to a friend, the situation was very serious and it was definitely not the coaching staff’s fault, just Coker’s alone…if what I was told is true.

I still don’t want to expose it though…right now….

by IAinCA on Jan 10, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP

Sorry, still dealing with this.

"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood

by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I’m not gonna blow up, and I know this is the internet way – but either say something or do shut the fuck up. The “I know things but I can’t say” is fucking stupid.

by txhawkeye on Jan 10, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

deal with it

I’m not the guy that’s gonna expose the kid…

by IAinCA on Jan 10, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

That's fine.

Just don’t be that guy who says he knows things but can’t say.

"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood

by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Ding Ding Ding Ding.

It is like being an attention whore. Just begging for people to ask you what you know. Pathetic really.

by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey, I know a guy in California that knows it all

He’s a smoke blower on Jive Avenue in the town of Chickenshit Flats. It’s near the Rhetoric Desert in Pretense County. He’s also too classy to expose anyone with all of the inside information in his possession.

I am drunk.., or I wouldn't be talking to you.

by codenameduchess on Jan 10, 2012 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Whaaa?

I just did a quick internet search and came up with nothing…

Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!

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by The Bird Cult on Jan 10, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Amazing. Must have been more to the suspension that we realized

Well, this will open up the RB job a bit for Spring…

Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!

http://www.thebirdcult.net

by The Bird Cult on Jan 10, 2012 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Hello Greg Garmon!

"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"

by One_ill_KevinJ on Jan 10, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not counting on anything until the LOI is signed

But good God, what have we done to piss off the Running Back Gods? I think its more than AIRBHG now. Its like its raining shit from all of Olympus on us.

Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!

http://www.thebirdcult.net

by The Bird Cult on Jan 10, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

AIRBHG is a person.

And he is on the staff. His name is Lester Erb.

"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"

by One_ill_KevinJ on Jan 10, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

FUCK.

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"

by One_ill_KevinJ on Jan 10, 2012 3:48 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Good point. I'd like to add

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood

by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Dually noted

Also SHITFUCKPISS

I can feel it....this is the week O'Keefe is gonna open up the playbook.

by MoMoney MoBrown on Jan 10, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I feel like we run too clean of a program

I’m kidding but it almost seems like we refuse to let anything slide.
This really hurts my heart, We all recall Jordan Jefferson kicking a man in the face then playing in like 7 more games that year? Or when Blount dropped that guy on national television then suited up for the ducks later that season right? I don’t know what coker did but it had nothing to do with the law or really anything that anyone can figure out but now he’s gone. This sucks.

I can feel it....this is the week O'Keefe is gonna open up the playbook.

by MoMoney MoBrown on Jan 10, 2012 3:52 PM CST reply actions  

Wow...just - wow!

It's so sad how a family can be torn apart by something as simple as a pack of wild dogs.

by FiveSecondRuleChef on Jan 10, 2012 3:56 PM CST reply actions  

Looks like I chose the wrong month to drop my Hawkeye Report subscription.

"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood

by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 3:56 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

It's blowing up over there - they had a post on this go from zero to 3 pages in about 25 minutes

Good times.

Meanwhile, Iowa running back=Spinal Tap drummer. Seriously, I wouldn’t be at all shocked if Canzeri spontaneously combusts on the field next year.

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Jan 10, 2012 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Look, we were last in the league in rushing

why are we so upset about change? Shouldn’t we embrace it?

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Jan 10, 2012 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Because I really don't think

this is the type of change that is going to help us improve that stat

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 10, 2012 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

You can't be serious

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 10, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

No, I'm not in the least bit serious

my attitude about these things is well documented visa vis DJK.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Jan 10, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry

this one has really fried my brain. But I still thought it odd that Chazz was posting under your screenname

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 10, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it is just as shortsighted

to automatically assign blame to the coaching staff as it is to automatically assign it to the player. Can we just wait for it to shake out a bit?

DRUNJIFORNICATION

by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jan 10, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm ok with blaming Lester Erb

after all, AIRBHG didn’t really get going full steam until he took over RB duties.

/is partially kidding

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 10, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't believe in one strike and you're out when it comes to students

I’m hoping, actually, this is a university thing. In other words, I’m hoping this that he broke the student honor code and KF’s hands were tied.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Jan 10, 2012 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

We have to at least recognize that as a possiblity

I just get a short fuse when some want to automatically assign blame to the player or the coaches or anyone else when all we know is that he applied for and was granted his release.

DRUNJIFORNICATION

by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jan 10, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

From what Ferentz has cryptically said

that seems to be the case. His “we’ll deal with it” comments about his suspension, that it was the violation of student code of conduct, that it was the dept and not Ferentz suspending him, etc.

by Captain n Diet Coker on Jan 10, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

You have insight?

Coker was the fucking problem???

by Grixxly on Jan 10, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Sarcasm font fellas?

by txhawkeye on Jan 10, 2012 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry

I’m in shock… really.

by Grixxly on Jan 10, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, if you have evidence I'll understand this,

but Coker is revered by the team. He’s smart, and works his ass off.

"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"

by One_ill_KevinJ on Jan 10, 2012 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

But, but, but,

he’s an ASTRO-PHYSICS major (so smart!), and he’s in all the UI promo videos (so handsome and a role model), and Sally Mason loves him (a leader!), AND he’s the February picture on my Hawkeye football calendar! What the hell am I supposed to do in February?

"I mean, are they going to poop their pants or are they going to get tough?" ~Tom Brands

by Hawkeyegirl on Jan 10, 2012 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Be glad they didn't use McCall for March

"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer

by Flakbait on Jan 10, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think this is going to make us better.

Not to mention the continued attrition.

"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood

by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Understood, but this isn't addition by subtraction

Coker was good, and young, and so promising. He had only begun to scratch the surface. He had just leaned to lower the pad level on contact, had gotten better going in and out of cuts, and now we’ve got to start over.

Jordan Canzeri, please stand up.

"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"

by One_ill_KevinJ on Jan 10, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Wegher was good too until he was a cancer

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Jan 10, 2012 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

See comment above

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Jan 10, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Coker. Damn it all to hell!

"I mean, are they going to poop their pants or are they going to get tough?" ~Tom Brands

by Hawkeyegirl on Jan 10, 2012 4:05 PM CST reply actions  

I can feel it....this is the week O'Keefe is gonna open up the playbook.

by MoMoney MoBrown on Jan 10, 2012 4:05 PM CST reply actions  

According to 1600 AM

This is a complete surprise to all involved…

Caveat though: Those guys on 1600 AM are COMPLETE KF homers…

by Grixxly on Jan 10, 2012 4:11 PM CST reply actions  

Yes.

Yes they are. They are better than listening to silence on a drive home from work, but don’t go there looking for great insight or deep discussion on potential problems within the program.

by The KF Karate Chop on Jan 10, 2012 9:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Has anyone actually even heard WHY Coker was suspended?

The only thing I’ve heard, and I don’t have any kind of concrete source (MEANING ALL HEARSAY) is he took another kids exam for him. If that’s the case, the staff has nothing they can do.

"No I'm not going to 'limber up'. You ever see a lion stretching before it takes down a gazelle?"

by Swarley on Jan 10, 2012 4:18 PM CST reply actions  

I have basically heard the same thing. But I dont know why he would transfer after that.

Unless they forced him too. Just a couple days ago on Facebook he thanked his supporters and said Hawk for Life. Maybe his mom is making him go closer to home.

by clay-born to party on Jan 10, 2012 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

!!!IF THAT'S THE CASE AND I'M NOT SAYING IT IS!!!

then transferring before they kick him out would be a possible answer.

"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood

by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 10, 2012 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

COKER THREAD

http://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/2012/1/10/2697635/gone-baby-gone-marcus-coker-asks-for-request-from-iowa

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 10, 2012 4:21 PM CST reply actions  

Tom Bradley is the shit

that is all

"There are too many Irish guys on this team"
Joesph Vincent Paterno
April, 2010

by letsgopsu on Jan 10, 2012 5:37 PM CST reply actions  

Pardon the extreme randomness of this question...

Hog fan here. I’ve asked many people before, but nobody has been able to answer my question. So I thought I would just go straight to the source…

What does that little sticker on Iowa’s headgear stand for? It’s on the top of the helmet, and looks like it has a lightning bolt or something similar. I always thought Iowa’s hats were cool, just noticed this little oddity a couple years ago and was curious.

Thanks for the info.

"How did you feel...being denied these hungry, hungry hippos?"

by Roothog2 on Jan 10, 2012 5:44 PM CST reply actions  

Awesome, Thanks!

"How did you feel...being denied these hungry, hungry hippos?"

by Roothog2 on Jan 10, 2012 6:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for stopping by

look around and stay a while!

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by Brock8144 on Jan 10, 2012 11:37 PM CST up reply actions  

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