Iowa 45, Louisiana-Monroe 17: Now That's More Like It
I'll be honest: I wasn't sure what to expect out of this game. I don't typically get too nervous about games with $1 million victims, but (a) Louisiana-Monroe wasn't your average bodybag opponent -- they'd kept things from getting out of hand against Florida State in Week One and traded punches with TCU for a while last week -- and (b) through three weeks, Iowa remained an enigma. If you worked at it, you might be able to scrap together four quarters' worth of good play from the first three games -- the second quarter against Tennessee Tech here, the fourth quarter against Pitt there, etc. -- but the fact that you'd struggle to do so indicates the roller coaster ride this season has been so far. Sometimes brilliant, sometimes putrid, never predictable: that's Iowa football 2k11 in a nutshell.
So I didn't know what we would see from Iowa yesterday. Would they pick up where they left off in shredding the Pitt defense and engineering the biggest comeback in school history? Or that would comeback prove to be a mirage, a harbinger of nothing but false hope? Happily, the answer seems to be the former: Iowa came out guns firing on Monroe and buried them early, leading to that rarest of occurences: the comfortable, stress-free Iowa victory. What does this tell us about the rest of the season? Probably not a lot: Monroe may be a scrappier-than-usual Sun Belt squad, but they're still a Sun Belt squad. It would be unwise to expect Iowa to be able to manhandle Big Ten opponents they way handled the Warhawks. But it's still encouraging to actually see Iowa playing well.
* Pass to win. The question all week was "would Iowa use more no huddle on offense after the smashing success they had running it against Pitt last week?" Survey says... oh hell yes. Iowa broke out some no huddle on the opening drive of the game... and promptly scored a touchdown. As expected, the no huddle didn't became the default look for the offensive, but it was a very potent tool and one that helped Iowa find an early offensive rhythm against ULM. Vandenberg looked at ease from the opening kickoff and he and Iowa's trio of talented receivers, Marvin McNutt, Keenan Davis, and Kevonte Martin-Manley, dissected ULM. Vandenberg's first-half stats: 15-25, 198 yards, 2 TD/0 INT. Not too shabby. McNutt was the star of the show, hauling in two beautiful fade routes for touchdowns (bringing him within one of the school record held by Danan Hughes and Tim Dwight, as BTN incessantly reminded us) and leading the way with 7 catches for 100 yards. Just Marvin doin' Marvin things. Kevonte Martin-Manley was his more accomplished sidekick yesterday, catching 6 passes for 82 yards and making hay in the middle of the field. Keenan had a quieter day -- just 2 catches for 32 yards and a handful of drops -- but overall, the Iowa receivers still look like the most explosive and productive unit on the Iowa offense, which is a strange (but exciting) change. FUN FACTS: through four games, Vandenberg is second to only Russell Wilson in passing yards (1136 to 1095) and touchdowns (11 to 10) and is tied with Edwin Wright-Baker for most attempts (129). He's currently on pace to throw for 3285 yards, 30 TD, and 3 INT. That would, um, be a pretty good season.
* MISSING: Iowa tight ends. If found, please return to Kinnick Stadium. The strangest thing about the explosion in the Iowa passing game is that it's come with basically zero help from the tight end position. For a school that's consistently sent tight ends to the NFL for the last decade, this is a bizarre development. It's even stranger when you consider the apparent talent level of the position -- in Ed Brad Herman, C.J. Fiedorowicz, Ray Hamilton, etc. Iowa appeared to have a host of options with impressive size and speed. Going into the season, tight end appeared to be the skill position with the most talent and the most depth. Yesterday, the combined production from the tight end position was... 2 catches for 17 yards. On the season, the three-headed "monster" of Herman, Fiedorowicz, and Zach Derby has totaled 10 receptions for 138 yards and 0 touchdowns. So long as the troika of McNutt, Davis, and Martin-Manley continues to produce at such a high level for Iowa, the lack of production from the tight end spot is more of an odd curiosity than a flashing warning sign. But... it would be nice to get the tight ends more involved, no? There is definite talent in that unit and they have the ability to create the sort of match-up nightmares that could make Iowa's passing attack even deadlier. Right now the only thing the Iowa tight ends are leading the team in is best nicknames. Hopefully the coaches use the bye week to rediscover the potential of the tight end in this offense. (And, to be fair, hopefully the tight ends themselves start playing at a higher level -- their numbers would be better now if not for a half-dozen drops.)
* Desperately seeking RB2. Once upon a time this season, Iowa had a RB2, and a very exciting one at that in hard-running Mika'il McCall. Of course, that set-up barely lasted a quarter before AIRBHG sent McCall to the sidelines with a broken ankle and sent Iowa back to the drawing board to find a new RB2. With the more established options (RS FR DeAndre Johnson and JR Jason White) appearing to be permanently out of favor, the job fell to the two remaining true freshmen running backs: Damon Bullock and Jordan Canzeri. Bullock tantalized in a cameo appearance last week, but sputtered with more carries this week: 21 yards on 7 carries (and a lost fumble). He looked promising, but also indecisive -- he spent too much time dancing behind Iowa's offensive line. Canzeri seemed destined for a redshirt this year, but the lack of other viable options at RB seems to have forced Ferentz's hand here. He ran for 30 yards on 5 carries and looked quick and decisive with good vision and pretty good burst. His three best carries went for gains of 6, 12, and 12 (he also had two carries inside the ULM 5-yard line that went for zero yards; suffice to say, he's probably not a top option around the goalline at this point). He had an even better run called back on a holding penalty. If you wanted to draw a comparison between Canzeri and a former Iowa running back, I'd go with a young Damian Sims: small, but quick and slippery. Obviously, five carries at the end of a game against ULM isn't enough evidence to definitively declare him RB2 or a future star-- but he certainly flashed enough potential to earn some more carries in the upcoming weeks. He looks well-suited to run in Iowa's zone blocking schemes and like a potentially perfect complement to Coker. (And hopefully Bullock will get more touches as well: he struggled some this week, but there's definite promise there.)
* About the defense. It was a rockier day for the defense than the offense, especially in conceding 14-second half points and allowing the Warhawks to move the ball down the field fairly consistently. But in general the trend is still positive: they tightened the screws on ULM's running game and held them to 59 yards on 30 carries, the first time all year they'd held an opponent under 100 yards rushing. As Morehouse noted in his write-up, after allowing five pass plays of 20+ yards last week, they only gave up one pass play of 20+ yards this week. That development is, of course, crucial for Iowa's bend-but-don't-break defense to work: giving up 20+ yard pass plays is the definition of "breaking" and that leads to losses (or near-losses, like last week). There's still a lot of work to be done -- ULM's QB tandem went 29/44 for 293 yards and looked poised and accurate, especially in the second half -- but they don't look hopeless. Tanner Miller and Jordan Bernstine were laying the lumber at the safety position and the much-maligned defensive line played better as well. Iowa's very own Nard Dog (Thomas Nardo) had a team-high 12 tackles, including 2.0 TFL. Whipping boy Lebron Daniel also had a nice game, with 1.5 TFL and 1.5 sacks, which was nice to see. There were still some breakdowns in contain, but fewer than we'd seen against Iowa State and Pitt. It should be abundantly obvious that this unit isn't going to be a vintage Iowa unit by any means, but they're at least moving back into the ranks of respectability and edging towards being a decent unit.
* Oh yeah, special teams. The good news: Mike Meyer went 1/1 on field goals yesterday and even booted a kickoff for a touchback. Eric Guthrie continued to have a quietly solid season punting the ball: he didn't have much to do yesterday (thank god), but his two punts went for an average of 48 yards per kick and he pinned ULM inside their own 20 twice. Jordan Bernstine got a few solid kick returns and Micah Hyde had an excellent 30-yard punt return (aided by a crushing block from -- who else? -- Bernstine). Even kickoff coverage was improved at the start of the game, consistently preventing ULM from getting any big returns or getting good starting field position. The bad news: they weren't consistent and the bad old kickoff coverage reared its ugly head later in the game, most notably on one return where ULM had a 40-yard runback (although the damage was mitigated by a penalty on ULM). Definitely still work to be done on the special teams front.
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Nontraditional Iowa Football approach
except the Hawks dictated the tempo and pace, that’s vintage. Whether it is offense or defense it is great to see Iowa impose their will. Even if just against a SunBelt team.
/needs more Bernstine
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Where else can we get Bernstine on the field?
Because I agree.
Maybe as a wildcat qb?
/joke.
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by bornofclay on Sep 25, 2011 12:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
having him return kicks scares the shit out of me
The most dangerous play in football using arguably our most important guy on defense with a long and glorious history of injury. I think the coaches are playing with fire there.
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by The Bacon Explosion on Sep 25, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I hear ya. Loud and clear.
But this has got to be JB’s year. His plays on the field and the video interviews from mascasa’s blog have made me a huge fan.
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by BentNotBroken on Sep 25, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Plus the fact
that he has looked very close to breaking one of those KRs for a touchdown.
FOUR. THREE. COVER. TWO.
Plus he's only got one year to make his mark.
And he’s the best option for both his defensive and ST roles.
by EastLosRandy on Sep 25, 2011 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
How common are injuries to kick returners?
I’m sure he’ll be fine. Kirk has to play his best players in all facets. Special teams needs to improve and having Bernstine return kicks is an improvement over the other options.
by The Mexican't on Sep 25, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
They aren't playing with fire
They’re playing with fucking napalm. I think Bernstine, Prater and Hyde have all seen return time, haven’t they? Bernstine and Hyde definitely.
They have promise, sure, and you can’t coddle your talented players away from areas they can make impacts (DJK and kick returns). But at the same time, when depth is a significant issue, and the special teams isn’t that good…
The special teams isn't that good because the coaches are buying into this protect your best players junk.
The special teams units that everyone remembers featured star players.
by The Mexican't on Sep 25, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Eh, not so much
in 2009 the animal on kick off coverage was Tarpinian, he wasn’t a starter. I noticed Nico Law was making tackles yesterday. Use guys that will be stars that want to make a mark. I would rather have Bernstein ready to go at safety than returning kicks, but that’s just me.
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by The Bacon Explosion on Sep 25, 2011 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't recall special teams being great in '09.
Tarp, maybe, but not the group overall. Certainly not as good as the groups from the early ’00s.
by The Mexican't on Sep 25, 2011 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
well yea
and we haven’t really had a great quarterback since Chuck Long – Brad Banks was good but he wasn’t Chuck Long.
I am just saying you can’t have the same 22 guys play all facets of the game, they are going to get completely gassed and it allows no development of younger guys. We need some non-starters to step up and play special teams as their position.
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by The Bacon Explosion on Sep 25, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember
Fake Brad Banks was the star on special teams in 2002.
Jack Trice Stadium - Easily one of the Top 10 Stadiums in Central Iowa
by Not Marv Cook on Sep 26, 2011 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Jermire Roberts!
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by RossWB on Sep 26, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
They are saving the TE's for Big Ten play
It looked like those guys were open, so i’d bet KoK doesn’t want VDB to throw over the middle too often ’till he trusts his decision making more.
I'd like to believe that.
But in practical terms, I simply think Vandy is more comfortable with the WRs after watching his TE’s drop pass after pass and miss block after block. Herman has also had some procedure penalties, to boot.
Hopefully they’ll step up in Big Ten play, but I think we’ll see them as an option behind the wideouts as long as the wideouts are even reasonably open. But we will need the TE’s to step up eventually.
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by The Director on Sep 25, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Vandy did say
after the game that basically they can cover one of his WR, but that’ll leave the other two wide open. He then went on to say that he’s got 3 good targets, I hope that he considers his 2 TE’s a good target as well though. That’s a staple of Big Ten Football and Hawkeye Football.
Something I wondered about during the game
Has anybody rewatched or paid attention to his progression reads? It seemed to me like during the Pitt game JVB was staring down this receiver a bit, but I couldn’t really tell yesterday. I suppose that’s a good sign. If he’s doing a good job going through the progression, there should be somebody open
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by chitownhawkeye on Sep 25, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll have to take a look
I still have the last two games saved on my computer, so I’ll try to take a look and see if I can spot the way he’s reading his receivers. He seemed to take his time a bit more this week, but he also didn’t have a bunch of gigantic ugly men on him the whole time.
Which reads are these?
Honestly, I’m not sure Iowa’s offense calls for a lot of progression reads. There’s a checkdown to the RB, and he’s hit a few of those, but I don’t think he’s expected to go from McNutt to Davis to KMM to the TE to the RB. The play is called for a given WR, maybe with a pre-snap read (typically if there is a blitz, if the safeties are in a given alignment, or if there is a LB on KMM in a 3WR set).
And for what it’s worth, it has looked to me like he’s done a good job with the pre-snap reads. Of course against ULM that was a 3-3-5, so it’s not really applicable to anything ever.
Oh totally
Pretty much just made it up out of thin air. But I think it’s true if more college (and even pro) offenses than you might think. Multiple reads take time, and it can be better to make a decision pre-snap and just have a go/no-go decision.
And this is obviously the case on the bubble screens and quick slants. Also the McNutt fades in the red zone, I bet.
by Notclevr on Sep 25, 2011 8:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Probably true
assuming that’s the case, then all he really needs to do is have a good enough connection with his receivers to know where they should be. Glance at the primary and secondary to be sure they aren’t jammed at the line, then go to them. If they can work with him on not staring at the guy to tip of the D, he should be ok
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by chitownhawkeye on Sep 25, 2011 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly, I'd include Coker in this list.
Say what you will for his maddening tendency to not consistently run north to south, but he’s got nice hands in the open field. I’d like to see them set up more designed plays for him, especially since McNutt is such a good down field blocker.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Sep 25, 2011 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Saving the TEs, maybe. But also, with three excellent receivers we're keeping the TEs in for blocking a bit more than usual, it seems.
I’m hoping it’s just a matter of rhythm and timing/intuition kicking in, because Herman looked pretty darn good last year (none of the issues we’ve seen this year). I really wish I knew what was up with Polish Hat, cause I wanna believe that he’s like the “secret” weapon that KOK is holding up his sleeve (HAN SOLO SHOT FIRST), but there’ve been so many rumors of doghouse issues that I’m confused. Moar CJ pleeze.
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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Sep 25, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
And as pass happy as we might seem right now, we are still running a whole heck of a lot
so it’s not like there are extra catches out there that they aren’t getting. We are just using the good receivers we have and going to the sides a lot more this year (so far).
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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Sep 25, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
And the stuff up the middle is all Kevonte.
(I wonder if they keep the TEs out of the middle sometimes to give KMM the room to work?)
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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Sep 25, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
And I suppose using the TEs as blockers a lot more in 2 TE sets helps to hide the playcall when we run out of that set.
Cause it would look the same as when we pass out of that set. (Did that make sense?) Those seem like the intricacies that KOK plays with to give us advantages.
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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Sep 25, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought they threw twice
Up the middle to the big tight end but the passes were off target.
by GuttedSnowBird on Sep 25, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I think CJ had one catch yesterday
Plus the pass deep down the seam that was flagged for pass interference
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Yeah, 2 for 32.
Ray Hamilton had his first career catch in Week 1 against Tenn Tech (from Derby) before C.J. did.
meh
I remember that
After the pass intereference play, I don’t remember VDB targeting ANY of the TEs.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
TEs are doing a good amount of pass blocking
Presumably because KF is still iffy on RBs ability to pick up rushers. Coker is reliable, and Bullock is fearless (though he got absolutely LIT UP by a rusher v. UL-M) if not always in position. I’m okay with the TEs blocking as long as it keeps Gimm off the field, because playing with that guy is like playing with 10.
Just beat jNW.
by One_ill_KevinJ on Sep 25, 2011 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Gimm was hurt for the ULM game.
And he’s a FB now (not a TE anymore), right?
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by WaterlooChazz on Sep 25, 2011 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Correct, a FB
But he’s just a non-factor, especially when you have Herman and The Statute.
Just beat jNW.
by One_ill_KevinJ on Sep 25, 2011 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Voted "Other"
for Jordan Bernstine. This is more of a “body of work” vote than a shout-out for this game in particular, but what I saw yesterday is continuing evidence that JB is very likely that “spark” guy that great Iowa teams have had in the past. Whether it’s a crushing block, a pick, a savvy pass break-up or a flashy return, this guy seems to come up with those electric moments that energize his team and the crowd. The impact of such a player, especially one who’s waited so long to get here, cannot be overstated.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Sep 25, 2011 12:17 PM CDT reply actions 9 recs
I'd now like to change my vote, your words have swayed me.
But I’d like to point out that you just “this guy”’d Jordan Bernstine.
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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Sep 25, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
so much this
rec, i was ready to write the same post, but you have done the work for me. we really need a spark plug on defense, and he’s been it.
He also stopped the first punt from going into the endzone so ULM started on their 3. Again, doing lots of different things that fire the team up.
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by The Bacon Explosion on Sep 25, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup.
He got my “other” vote as well.
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by Bucketochicken on Sep 25, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed. He's this team's Matt Roth
He is ALWAYS in on the play.
Just beat jNW.
by One_ill_KevinJ on Sep 25, 2011 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Two words:
Jordan Bernstine is awesome.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Sep 26, 2011 6:13 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Three words
Bernstine Rocks
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by ClaybornSmash on Sep 26, 2011 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
While I'm still a little nervous about the D
We have the bye, then a slightly O challenged PSU team to fix the problems.
That being said, I honestly believe that opposing defensive coordinators looking at this game tape are going to be worried about stopping us
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by chitownhawkeye on Sep 25, 2011 12:19 PM CDT reply actions
We go as far as our defense will allow us to go
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Sep 25, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
And the defense seems to be improving every week
by Captain n Diet Coker on Sep 25, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree.
If they can get the D line to remember contain, I don’t think they’ll be bad. They won’t be ‘09 D, but they won’t be a tire fire.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Sep 25, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
In typical Iowa style,
a bunch of nobodies are proving to be active defensive lineman with huge motors.
Apologies for sounding like Matt Millen.
Just beat jNW.
by One_ill_KevinJ on Sep 25, 2011 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I have a feeling the Michigan game is going to be loooong
network should block 4 hours for that one, it could possibly set some Iowa scoring records for combined points.
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by The Bacon Explosion on Sep 25, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
There's a reason I DVR up to 90 minutes after the official end time for the game
I think this past week was one of the first times that the game ended when the BTN had scheduled it.
Our two biggest problems aren't that bad - tackling and maintaining focus
I don’t really care if a young D gives up a lot of yards as long as the big plays are held to a minimum and garbage TDs with a big lead don’t count in my book – the W at the end of the day does.
That said, the two biggest problems we seem to be having right now – on the defensive side of the ball, tackling – hold your lanes, contain, and wrap the fuckers up guys – and focus when we have a big lead or things aren’t going well – and on offense, focus when we have a big lead. Tackling is reinforcing technique, but its also desire. Focus – a bit more difficult to get at. On offense, I think it hurts us to get out of the no huddle, because the very nature of the no huddle is you have to pay fucking attention to what is going on… I can see where we get too relaxed when they think they have the game under control. Keep the fucking pedal to the metal on offense and defense until the other team’s car is dust in the fucking demolition derby.
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by The Bird Cult on Sep 25, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Considering the drops (I counted 3 or 4)
Vandy’s numbers really should’ve been even better. Like I said during the Pitt game (somewhere in the 3rd quarter, so I wasn’t a popular guy at the time) people who miss Ricky are nuts. Maybe I’m alone here, but Vandy this year will be a better quarterback than Ricky ever was. 11 win season, though? Maybe not.
PS: I think our TE’s name is BRAD Herman, not Ed?
dammit. I really want his name to be Ed, not Brad.
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by WaterlooChazz on Sep 25, 2011 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
then vandy's numbers should have been worse last week
unless you go through every play of every game, chart and collate the data, it’s not that productive to play this game.
meh
by tyger1147 on Sep 25, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's great to see Vandy play
but I don’t understand the need to dis Stanzi — he won a lot of games here and took the Hawks to their first BCS bowl. Perhaps you could’ve done a better job than Stanzi?
He died for our sins.
by Jesus-H-ARob on Sep 25, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Fail
That should’ve read “the first to win a BCS bowl.”
He died for our sins.
by Jesus-H-ARob on Sep 25, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not an insult
It’s just a matter of fact analysis, IMO. VDB has a better release, is more accurate, has more velocity, and has the balls to make tough throws (Stanzi got a little hesitant his senior year). Nobody is questioning the über-patriotism of The Stanzi. He’s a legend here. But he was helped by a tremendous body of NFL defensive talent, DJK, Shonn Green, etc.
Just beat jNW.
by One_ill_KevinJ on Sep 25, 2011 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope Coker gains some confidence from this game.
He seemed to be running better, but I don’t know if that can be marked as progress or if it was more a product of our opponent.
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by bornofclay on Sep 25, 2011 12:38 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
this is why I voted for "other"
The drive killing penalty didn’t happen yesterday. A welcomed development.
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by The Bacon Explosion on Sep 25, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
This has turned out to be one of the better non-conference schedules we have had in terms of preparation for conference
No power teams, which still concerns me, but considering we play jNW, Michigan and Nebraska, the defense has had more than its share of practice against spread offenses, mobile QBs and the concept of contain.
I haven’t voted above yet because I can’t decide. We held contain at some critical moments on Saturday where we hadn’t before, and Nardo came up big. McNutt was tremendous again, but you could not get better passes on the fade than what Vandy threw. RB is better, though I think we could see up to three in regular rotation. After Coker, Canzeri looked best this time, but the kid is 175. FreddyBalla had 20 lbs. or more on him. Could Jaquizz Rogers have played in the B10? I guess we’ll find out, but we may need one more larger body to spell Coker.
We may still need to score at least 30 to win each game. At least it looks like the staff understands that, and they kept the foot on the gas.
FOUR. THREE. COVER. TWO.
It's not like we need Canzeri to carry the ball 20 times a game, though.
Is he an every-down back? Certainly not this year. But he doesn’t need to be that and won’t be asked to be that.
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Canzeri looks like a punt returner waiting to happen, IMO
in addition to being a great back for 5-10 carries/game, he could present some nightmare issues for punt returns. It’s really a piece of the puzzle we’ve been missing.
Just beat jNW.
by One_ill_KevinJ on Sep 25, 2011 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
He's not an every down back this year
But Fred Russell was when he was making fools out of defenses. It’ll take a year or two, but he will be a legit starter at rb.
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by bornofclay on Sep 27, 2011 10:07 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes, but
Did 3 Lambs and Jantz and Sunseri and the two ULM QBs “prepare us” for Denard and jNW and Nebraska, or did it just give them four hours of game tape showing how our DEs suck at contain and our Norm Parker Cover 2 can be easily exploited?
If the defense had stepped up and shut these guys down then great, but I feel like spread teams in the B1G know pretty much exactly what to do to exploit our defensive schemes and personnel at this point.
I'm afraid what was there was ready to be exploited
Had we not shown improvement I’d agree with you. But I think we have. We saw more three-man fronts yesterday than I recall in a while. We also that throw-aways yesterday because our defenders broke off the blocker in time to cut off the outside. I understand it’s ULM but we weren’t even coming close to doing that before.
Who knows which jNW QB we’ll get. I’m hoping that as before, by the time we see Robinson, he’ll have taken a few hits in conference play. I still don’t expect to see a healthy Martinez by the time we play Nebraska, with the hard conference schedule they have.
FOUR. THREE. COVER. TWO.
Every other team has always known our weaknesses, we don't hide them.
We minimize them and dare teams to out perform our guys. It works a lot, and sometimes it doesn’t. Depends on who makes mistakes and when, and depends on our personnel. The personnel has been the biggest change through the last few years.
So yeah, teams have lots of tape showing that our DLine is still learning contain.
Big deal.
"TAYLOR MARTINEZ IS AIDS ON TWO FEET"
-@DanBeebe
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Sep 25, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm just saying
It’d be nice to be jNW one of these years, that’s all.
I hope you meant "beat jNW."
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by WaterlooChazz on Sep 26, 2011 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Beating a stunned horse
Good Lord are Marvin’s hands huge. There was a shot after his second TD (?) of him holding the ball with one hand that wrapped half way around.
"Sometimes the truth gets in the way of a good story" - KF
by The Bacon Explosion on Sep 25, 2011 1:02 PM CDT reply actions
garbage pail lids
I think this more than anything is what will get him the most attention come draft time.
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by benvious on Sep 25, 2011 2:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Someone let Billy Packer know.
(Referencing Billy Packer’s swooning over the size of Rajon Rondo’s hands)
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by SomeJerkPoster on Sep 25, 2011 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I shook hands with his Dad before the Indiana game last year
It definitely runs in the family, like shaking hands with a softball glove
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by The Nihilist on Sep 25, 2011 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I met McNutt at an alumni event in St. Louis
Nice guy, he’s way bigger than he looks on TV. He’s got a Bruce Lee, if he stays healthy he should have a hell of an NFL career. Super quiet guy, though, not an attention hog, not a show-off.
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by hawkeyeinstl on Sep 25, 2011 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
That's the impression that I get, too.
Kind of like a Calvin Johnson or Andre Johnson. Not from a talent perspective, but just a guy who produces and doesn’t hurt the team with his mouth. Ferentz doesn’t really recruit those guys that often.
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by bornofclay on Sep 27, 2011 10:21 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Other: For the coaching staff
They have been working of the fly the last to weeks; so far its payng off.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
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by Blackheartnopants on Sep 25, 2011 1:23 PM CDT reply actions
Did anyone else think Coker got knocked a little silly on his 2nd TD?
I thought he looked dazed a little bit on the initial, live-action play, and then he didn’t come in after that. Obviously, the score could have been a factor, but I’m just wondering.
meh
Not sure
He did kind of fumble it, which seems to get RBs sent to the bench. But we were also way up and didn’t really need him after that point, so it may have been precautionary. I hope it was because he wasn’t needed that we didn’t see him, not because he wasn’t able to play (obviously).
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Yeah, I hope so, too.
It just looked to me that he got donked. Then he sat out. They were up big. But that hasn’t stopped Ferentz from keeping guys in before. But he did a lot of things different so who knows.
meh
True
but I’ve been pleased that Ferentz seems to have learned his lesson from last year and tends to get the starters out earlier. Could have been a combo with Coker too in that he was sent to the bench because of the football for the next series, then KF realized there was no need to risk an injury to him going forward. At least, I hope it’s something like that and NOT because he was shaken up.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I took his reaction to be, "Oh shit, I think I might've fumbled again," to
“I better sell that as a touchdown.”
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by SomeJerkPoster on Sep 25, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
In my opinion, it was clearly the combination of the 3 WR's last week.
Vandenberg made some great plays late in the 3rd and throughout the 4th. However, the WRs made great and consistent plays throughout the game.
This week, though, the consistency shown by Vandenberg was very, very, impressive.
meh
by tyger1147 on Sep 25, 2011 1:56 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
help with the tee vee
am i blind or just not seeing a replay of our game anywhere on the BTN schedule. I see the other games and not ours, anybody know what I’m missin/where I can find it?
I didn't see it either,
after a spin through the DirecTV guide.
I wonder if it might be one of those “Big Ten Football in 60” shows where they shorten the game to the best 60 minutes?
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Sep 25, 2011 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I went with Nardo
He seemed to be in on everything and did a great job in pursuit even when the play wasn’t near him. Really can’t disagree with JVB or McNutt either. Also loving Bernstine’s emergence this year.
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Sep 25, 2011 2:38 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I also voted for Nardo,
because Dolph made it sound like Tom was kicking asses and taking names on Saturday.
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by WaterlooChazz on Sep 25, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I love KDKMMMM
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by Pain in the Sash on Sep 25, 2011 3:24 PM CDT reply actions
Several startling features of this team.
First, the QB is allowed to both choose the formation and choose the play.
Second, the strength of the offense is not in the line, but on the outside.
Third, we have the weakest defensive stats in 12 years. (Red zone D is still good, everything else is poor.)
Fourth, we have a good punting and kicking game at the same time.
A few people said a month ago that VDB, if left alone to play, would be big. He may be big. I think, if we ever get down hard to somebody, he’s definitely putting up 500. If the defense doesn’t improve, we may well conclude to go no-huddle nonstop, just to try to outscore the other guys.
We play tackle football.
Is VDB getting the two choice play call from KOK?
1 run, 1 pass, VDB decides which to use, and the formation and personnel sent in by O’Keefe? Or does he really have a shooting license from KOK and Ferentz?
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Sep 25, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
The Gazette reports
that he has carte blanche, for any play available for either of two formations. So it’s football circa 1980, when the QB called the plays.
There’s no helmet radio in college, and they are not telling him what to do in no huddle.
We play tackle football.
Wow
I never would have expected that
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Sep 25, 2011 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I honestly don't see any other way for this team to exceed (or maybe even meet) and 8-4 record
without giving this team to Vandenberg and the wideouts. Whatever we get from the running game is gravy and the defense has to create turnovers because they cannot get off the field. The ULM coach kind of suggested that our no huddle had the same effect on his guys as if we were playing ball control with a dominant running game. He more or less said his defense was mentally AND physically exhausted.
We might be a team that can do something that most of these conventional pass spread offenses cannot do, go straight pro set as needed and just run it at teams. It is a very interesting concept, one that Brian Kelly is trying to do at ND but he is a pass happy undisciplined coach with a run game waiting to happen and we are a run happy coach who is obsessed with discipline with a passing game waiting to happen.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
This
He more or less said his defense was mentally AND physically exhausted.
After the last Northwestern games, this should have been obvious. Maybe it was, which is why we’re doing it.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Sep 25, 2011 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I continue to enjoy it when you dis Brian Kelly.
I had to look it up, and ND “only” beat Pitt by 3 (at Pitt).
And, off topic, Mike Locksley (finally) got fired from New Mexico today.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Sep 25, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I think KF and staff
historically have done very well play-calling to their players/teams strengths or to avoid their weaknesses. Overall he is pretty conservative, sure. But his history of getting the most out his players, especially the highly skilled players and or those who embrace position change, is pretty damn impressive.
Vandenberg is probably the only QB in the Ferentz era who could toss the spread no huddle, with all due respect to JC6, none.
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by BentNotBroken on Sep 25, 2011 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think you might be right...his gift might not be his arm but his ability to read defenses
and Ricky often struggled with that.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Yeah, I remember the reports of VDB not being a film-guru like Stanzi.
After seeing how confident he is running everything, it seems obvious that he is much more comfortable with 3-4 routes in a pattern (shotgun), where Ricky was better with simpler reads (i.e. rollout with long/short options).
by One Night Stanzi on Sep 25, 2011 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Not sure about this
in regard to film-room. One of the big changes in VDB’s approach this off-season was, reportedly, the fact that he spent a lot more time studying film. Stanzi rubbed off on him in that way.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I thought that Stanzi was always good at film room
but it was only his last year, when his class load was really light, that he was really able to spend time studying other teams
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Sep 25, 2011 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, maybe true.
But he spent a TON of time in there, IIRC. And it almost made him a worse QB by making him be too analytical instead of just letting it rip like in ’09. He was a better QB statistically, but at times a little hesitant to make the big play. It just seems to me like VDB loves to let it rip.
by One Night Stanzi on Sep 25, 2011 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
And, honestly...
It could be that VDB does just as much film study and Ricky did impress that upon him, and that he’s just more confident as a QB. Either way, I guess….VDB is a better pocket QB, which fits our offense perfectly this year.
by One Night Stanzi on Sep 25, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
VDB has a much stronger arm
Which means he can make throws Ricky could not. If he could throw on the run like Ricky did, though – and he might get better than this – then he truly will be a more completely QB. If I’m Penn State, I blitz every f’ing play whether you get to Vandy or not. Because the WRs are good enough that if you let him have time he will destroy you.
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by The Bird Cult on Sep 25, 2011 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
get better at this, complete QB - I'm tired.
"u r awesome" ~ my daughter
by The Bird Cult on Sep 25, 2011 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Ricky struggled, IMHO, with thinking too much
He really reduced his mistakes his senior year, OTOH, I think part of what made Stanzi go so well in 09 was simply going for it, good or bad result. But I don’t think Ricky “thinking too much” was why the 2010 team underachieved. I think Ricky did his part but a lot of other seniors simply showed up last year, and it infected the entire team.
"u r awesome" ~ my daughter
by The Bird Cult on Sep 25, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
No Berstine?
He played lights out all game, no?
About time
So. How soon until the Texas 9 invites somebody else? Either the band splits up or they have to invite some new dance partners in my mind
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Sep 25, 2011 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
BRING ON THE LAWSUITS!!!!
Seriously though, who’s next? No way the SEC stays at 13
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Please let it be Clemson
Please. Because, you know, fuck them. And the SEC. It’s perfect.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Sep 25, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Won't be Clemson
though I think from a cultural standpoint they make the most sense. I’m guessing either Mizzou or VA Tech, with Tech being more likely.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I know
but I really want it to be true. Oh well
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Sep 25, 2011 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Indeed
“FUCK CLEMSON AND THE SEC” just sounds perfect together
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Its CLEMP-SON
Don’t forget the P. Its the way its SUPPOSED TO BE PRONOUNCED. ;)
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by The Bird Cult on Sep 25, 2011 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
PAAWWWLLLL
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Sep 25, 2011 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I feel like there should be a rule
that if you have a coach named Dabo Swinney, your football program must be in the SEC.
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by WaterlooChazz on Sep 25, 2011 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I think VaTech is tied to West Virginia.
Without WVU, VaTech is still stuck in Big East obscurity. That said, VT is the best available option for the SEC.
by The Mexican't on Sep 25, 2011 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
They are in different conferences now, right?
Do they even play each year? (After research, the answer is No.)
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by WaterlooChazz on Sep 25, 2011 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Virginia and Virginia Tech play each other, I believe
Which is also interesting with UVA being in the ACC and if VT is SEC bound – that’s probably the end of them playing each other regularly…
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by The Bird Cult on Sep 25, 2011 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe, maybe not.
It probably depends on how butt-hurt Virginia would be about VT leaving the ACC.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Sep 25, 2011 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, shit, you're right.
I meant Virginia, not WVU.
by The Mexican't on Sep 26, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
You know, that is interesting... where do the Big East teams... go?
Where’s UConn going to go… they’re a basketball school that probably still belongs in I-AA in football. West Virginia is a team that conceivably ends up super screwed in this scenario. Their fan base is scattered across the country – like Iowa’s – but its not a fan base the size of Iowa’s (insert WV dueling banjos joke HERE).
What I think we are going to see is the collapse into the Super Conferences but about 5 years into it, we may see some teams switching between the SCs with the agreement of the SCs as to what fits everyone’s revenue model better.
"u r awesome" ~ my daughter
by The Bird Cult on Sep 25, 2011 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
That's not the case at all
Actually, it was UVA that got Tech into the ACC when Miami joined. The ACC wanted Miami, and Miami wanted BC and someone else (can’t remember who) from the Big East to come along with them to maintain rivalry games, but it was NOT Tech. Political pressure here in VIrginia from the governor down forced UVA to demand VA Tech – who UVA did not want in the conference – be included in any vote (UVA also had the backing of Duke, UNC and Wake with their votes). So, Tech owes UVA for being in the ACC and may well stab them in the back if they then go to the SEC.
On a related note, FUCK VIRGINIA TECH
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
x 2 on the FUCK VT
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by The Bird Cult on Sep 25, 2011 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
The ACC wanted Miami, BC, and 'Cuse
Instead, they got a team that has pretty much owned the conference in football.
Iowa gameday drinking
Interesting piece from an Iowa City liquor store worker: http://www.thusspiked.com/2011/09/saturdays-in-iowa-city-inside-belly-of.html
Wow
Kinda rough assessment. And I’m one of those middle aged males. I hope my drunken behavior has been less boorish.
by GuttedSnowBird on Sep 25, 2011 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
This is a very unflattering indictment on the University
“As of 2009 Iowa had the Big Ten’s lowest freshman retention rate and highest acceptance rate.”
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I remember sending in my college applications in 1980
To Iowa and UNI (I went to UNI my first year). I was the upper 15% at DSM Roosevelt 3.5GPA, and I had a 26 on the ACT so I was basically automatically admitted to both schools as an in-state resident. That said, I was stunned that all I had to do – other than submit my ACT transcript/score + my high school transcripts, which were done automatically – was to fill out a double-sided 1 page application.
Today it seems like the prerequisites are a little higher – I hear about essays, etc. but I’m guessing that’s at more selective colleges than Iowa.
As to the drinking, its always been bad… but it seems like it wasn’t as bad in 1981 when I was a student as it is now. I think in some ways the 21 law has been very, very counterproductive.
"u r awesome" ~ my daughter
by The Bird Cult on Sep 25, 2011 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
College application process has become big business....it was in its infancy in 1980
I’ve figure I’ve read 3,000 college applications in my life and all I think you really need to make an assessment is a two page application, transcripts, and personal essay (although essays all read so much alike it’s stunning and I have joked that there is a hilarious book waiting to be written if anyone can ever get legal release of them).
Too often I found the SAT score to be misleading and in hindsight, irrelevant. When you first read an application you want tons of info because you are new to the process and you don’t trust your instincts. But, eventually you learn that the SAT often opens the door for underachieving students to get into better colleges. It might have been a phenomenon of the school I worked at but too often I saw the kid that killed the SAT but was a middling H.S. student end up being a middling college student as well. Meanwhile, the achieving student who did okay on the SAT often out performed her score on the SAT. Of course there were exceptions, but I am talking over the course of thousands of applicants…trust everything other than the SAT if you’re unsure.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
That's the point I've been hammering into my kids already
Who are only 9 and 11 – my son is blowing the lid off of the CT Mastery Tests… he’s in 6th grade this year, and he’s already helping his 15 year old stepbrother with algebra problems… he’s smart smart smart BUT he tends to coast in class, figuring that if he’s not interesting in something it doesn’t matter if he gets a B just showing up. Stuff he’s interested in, he kills but if he doesn’t like the teacher or the material, he sucks. I think he’ll do better in middle school – particularly since he’ll have the option of advanced classes he doesn’t have in elementary school – but I’ve been trying to pound the point to him that I want to see his grades match his test scores. Because in life – unless you are really good at what you do naturally – the hardest working people generally are the ones that get advanced, and its a very competitive world out there and Dad is NOT going to be providing boomerang space in 2025 or so… because I’ll be 64 and the last thing I want is some 20something kid hanging out while I’m trying to figure out how to retire.
That said, my daughter, who at 9 is bright – in a different way – doesn’t do as well on the Mastery Tests BUT she is a much, much better student than her brother. Better grades overall, and her teachers enjoy working with her more because (most of the time) she tries. Her biggest issues are checking her work, and she has a bad habit of giving up on schoolwork that she doesn’t immediately get or that is “too hard.”
Living 2500 miles away (there’s a long story behind that and I’m not in a position to immediately move to CT and ride herd on the kids) I do the best I can and during our long summer visits to reinforce the idea that you’ve got to work hard, you’ve got to work smart and you’ve got to perform to your potential to get the best deal in life. Simply showing up with glowing test scores – its the same issue as the Polish Hat really – might get you rave reviews but the hard workers with less talent will often end up with the playing time (jobs) over the more talented people.
So that’s why I harp so much on grades and doing well to my kids, because I keep reading – and you are confirming – that high school GPA is generally the best predictor of college success. If you did well in high school, chances are you will perform well in college, all things being equal.
"u r awesome" ~ my daughter
by The Bird Cult on Sep 25, 2011 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not sure how middle schools or high schools are in Connecticut,
but, from my experience in high schools (and some middle schools) in Iowa, the students with good habits (trying hard, completing work, listening in class, studying, not causing trouble, minimal absenteeism) tend to get pretty decent grades/GPA. Many of those same habits will allow you to do OK-to-well in college.
I feel like I had many of those qualities as a high school student, but I was definitely very weak in science and just so-so in math (despite taking advanced or accelerated math my whole high school career). I got a 28 on my ACT that somehow got re-adjusted up to a 29. I had a high school GPA of 3.45 or 3.55, and was just inside the top half of my graduating class (private school, plenty of capable classmates). I was fairly quickly accepted to UNI, and I’m pretty sure I would have been accepted to Iowa, had I applied. I did pretty well in college (not awesomely awesome, but only one or two C’s).
I believe UI/UNI/ISU use the RAI to evaluate applicants, which is a rating that combines GPA, ACT (maybe SAT?), completion of core HS classes, and maybe class rank.
I think you are wise, Bird Cult, to emphasize good effort from both your kids. I’m not sure that a student with a shitty GPA but a great ACT gets in everywhere (others can answer that better than I can).
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Sep 25, 2011 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I think good study habits can take people a LONG way
Regardless of their high school subject mix, or weak subjects. I think its also critically important to pick a college that matches you. Too many times kids go somewhere because “everyone else is going there” rather than to the school that provides a better match for their academic skills/personality.
In retrospect, as much as I enjoyed Iowa as an undergrad, I should’ve stuck with UNI. Much more personal attention at the undergrad level – but I wanted to party and um, meet girls and that wasn’t happening at UNI to my satisfaction, ergo the transfer.
"u r awesome" ~ my daughter
by The Bird Cult on Sep 25, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
My kids live south of Hartford
Halfway between there and New Haven. My son said the other day “Yale is a good college.” I agreed, and noted that tuition will be such by 2018 that selling a kidney probably won’t cover an entire year.
I don’t see him going to Yale anyway… he’s got all the makings of a good engineer – he’s crazy about building stuff and scary good at math. I can see him at RPI, MIT, CalTech Cal Polytechnic… anyplace that has a good engineering school. And Iowa has a decent engineering school but its not in those leagues (nor is Iowa State).
"u r awesome" ~ my daughter
by The Bird Cult on Sep 25, 2011 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds like he may well earn himself some academic scholly $$$
The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.
by HawkeyeGirleye on Sep 25, 2011 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
We'll see.
He should but right now I’m having a hard time convincing his mother to cut WAY back on video game and computer time (she works nights as she’s counter help for Delta). I won’t go into the long story of why I live on a different coast (in Sacramento) but I’m not in a position to just move tomorrow to CT, and their mother and I do not, for another long story of reasons, get along very well.
If he were here in Sacramento, he’d be either in an advanced math class or I’d get him a math tutor (probably the same one for my daughter because that’s her weak subject, but her largest concern is a lack of self-confidence). Being 11, all he cares about is having food, electricity for his games and computer, and a dry climate controlled place to sleep.
My daughter has said she is ready to move in with me but isn’t “quite ready” at 9 to leave her mother – yet. I have left the choice entirely up to her.
She’s fully capable of being an outstanding student, maybe not with his test scores or achievements but she is a very hard worker. When she is focused, she pushes through and gets things done; she’s done two 5K races with me already and finished both – she didn’t run the entire way but she ran about half of each, which isn’t bad for a nine year old kid.
"u r awesome" ~ my daughter
by The Bird Cult on Sep 25, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe we touched on this in a thread yesterday
Regarding our 9 y/o daughters- they sound to have similar personalities & interests. Mine, too, has self-confidence issues, esp with math (not uncommon with girls even now). She has absolutely blossomed this year for a variety of reasons: travel soccer (who knew making the 4th of 5 teams could boost a child so much?) & an outstanding 4th grade teacher being the main ones. We’re only a month in, school-wise, but she is a new kid this year & we are so grateful.
You sound like a great dad & I can only imagine how much you’d like to be physically closer to your kids on a more regular basis. Things have a funny way of working out sometimes. Not trying to get to personal but would your ex give either of the kids a hard time if they wanted to live with you? No worries if that’s more than you want to share. A good friend of mine married a man with 2 now teenagers 7 years ago. They’re also at opposite ends of the country & it’s a tough road.
The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.
by HawkeyeGirleye on Sep 25, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
She has told my daughter its OK to move
But to be really sure. At 9, she’s just not quite ready to leave her Mom, that’s understandable, just because we can’t stand each other doesn’t mean that our kids don’t love each of us, and, of course, the children would prefer it that we still be together, but, we’re not.
Part of her issue is that she doesn’t like her stepfather… he has two teenage sons and doesn’t quite know what to do with a bright girl that’s a bit of tomboy (her Mom keeps trying to put her in dresses, oh man, does she pizz and moan about that). She does have the same teacher – an outstanding one – that my son had two years ago for the 4th grade and that’s when his test scores began to take off, so we’ll see what happens (I do email correspondence with this teacher so I know what’s going on).
One thing that I do wish that we could share is music; I’ve been playing guitar for 35 years, was in high school and college jazz bands (people recognized me from the jazz festivals on the Iowa campus, kind of cool, but Iowa is also a very small pond on that sort of thing). The last two summers I’ve put them in a fun, “educational” summer school/day camp at one of the local Catholic K-8s, last year, she took beginner guitar, this year he did. She’s an OK musician… he could be scary good if he wanted to be. Picked up guitar much faster than she did (the math, being a little older, but what makes it more remarkable is he’s left handed and he did this on a regular right handed guitar with no problems)… we were walking through a boutique toy store in July and he walked up to a toy piano, put both hands on it, and started playing one of the theme songs from his video game collection – they have a really nice Yamaha keyboard I sent them… he’s a natural keyboard player – I was stunned. I would be making sure music was a part of their lives (although its not how I would want them to make a living LOL) if they were living with me.
I think my email is in my profile if you want to continue this discuss offline; I don’t think its against the forum rules but I’m not sure the rest of BHGP wants to hear the rather dull story of my life. :)
"u r awesome" ~ my daughter
by The Bird Cult on Sep 26, 2011 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions
My little sister & I are an example of the grown up version of your kids
Bet you can guess which one I am from my sig. ;)
The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.
by HawkeyeGirleye on Sep 25, 2011 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm... Probably not, I'm pretty slow :-p
LOL
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by The Bird Cult on Sep 25, 2011 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't believe you
You strike me as a pretty level-headed guy. & your smart kids have half your genes!
The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.
by HawkeyeGirleye on Sep 25, 2011 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
No really, honestly, from your posting style
I haven’t a clue. We haven’t interacted enough on here for me to have a clue… I’m kind of embarrassed :-p
Maybe I’m just tired tonight… I’m training for a marathon, I was going to run 15 this morning but got up late and instead did a more intense 10 mile run – I have a half marathon race next week and I’m still 9 weeks out from the marathon so I don’t have to ramp up my long run for another week or so….
"u r awesome" ~ my daughter
by The Bird Cult on Sep 25, 2011 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, thought you were being silly with me
I’m the one who could rock a standardized test, coasted thru high school & never learned to study correctly.
My little sister had a terrible time with standardized tests (possibly because she’d totally stress about it) but had all the drive, motivation, determination- you name it, she had it in spades. Out running family joke: I did everything first, she did everything better: we both went to Iowa (7 years apart), had the same major & joined the same sorority. Took me 6 years to get a 5 yr BS in pharmacy, she got her PharmD in the standard 6. I took my little BS & dutifully went to work for a chain, she did a residency & a fellowship (in a very tough specialty) & now works for the FDA. I was really involved in our sorority but was never one for leading, she was president.
Interestingly (to me, anyway), the one thing that seems to have come more easily to me is parenthood. My guess is it’s simply a matter of being more laid back. She’s very type A & high stress. I’m more of a roll with the punches kind of girl.
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by HawkeyeGirleye on Sep 25, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
My son is very focused, very type A
He gets the “oh, I’ll do it later” aspect of his personality from me. This is why instead of being a doctor I work in the Vast Heartless Souless Faceless Bureaucracy for a living. I could be doing a lot better had I’d been willing to work harder, but I’m also a coaster.
My daughter is the far more social and easy going one. He has a temper. She does not.
Oh I think I was being silly… LOL. I just didn’t quite get it :)
"u r awesome" ~ my daughter
by The Bird Cult on Sep 26, 2011 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Also, this is a very interesting piece and deserves attention
he’s got a real hard on for middle aged men, which is interesting. I don’t doubt that the older the customer the more obnoxious they might be. ONe would expect them to have more disposable income and I’m sure they target these days to relive youthful zealousness.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Honestly, SMA the guy is spot on - unfortunately
I’m a 49 year old guy that turns 50 in November. I’ve never been a big drinker, pretty much a lightweight (don’t really care either) even when I was a student. 3 good screwdrivers and I’m pretty screwed up, but I’ve never been an obnoxious drunk like some of these guys. I don’t know, maybe part of it is I’m not a big guy and I’ve watched too many people get the crap kicked out of them while drunk… I’d just rather sit around and laugh and try to not bother anybody.
Anyway, chances are these guys that are obnoxious drunks that are 50something were obnoxious drunks when they were 20something but the difference is now they’re successful professionals/businessmen, etc. with large disposable incomes and they’re away from wives/GFs/whatever and still think they look just as hot today to a college girl as they did 30 years ago. Whatever. But… even given that, there’s nothing worse than a 50something alumni with money and drunk and thinks that they’re King Shit full of alcohol and that 20something girls will jump into their hotel room and car with them and do whatever they want. And unfortunately, during a big football game, there are enough wasted young women (and not so young) everywhere that enough of these guys “get lucky” often enough that they don’t realize how incredibly stupid they look (or how miserable they make the non/less-drunk people around them feel with their behavior). I knew a few girls at Iowa that loved to party and that also had sugar Daddy aspirations and had no problem going to a hotel room with these guys after a game… most of the time, the men were too drunk to perform anyway, but they’d buy the girls drinks and gifts and the guys didn’t want their wives finding out about what they were doing. I heard of at least one instance of a girl going to a bowl game with a married man – he paid her expenses to get there – in exchange for sex. His wife thought he was going to the bowl game with friends…
Its not confined to Iowa, of course, these kind of people are everywhere. Generally financially successful, often highly paid professionals or very successful businessmen. I’m not passing judgment, but these are people who are used to having their way without question, and alcohol just makes their ‘normal’ behavior worse. :(
"u r awesome" ~ my daughter
by The Bird Cult on Sep 25, 2011 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Take 2
The other reason they may act like asshats might be because in college … they were NOBODY. Girls wouldn’t give them the time of day, they were fat, geeky, short (fill in the inadequacy/social rejection reason HERE).
Now they’ve got money, they’re successful, they are in an age cohort where the number of age appropriate available women outnumbers the men if you are interested in a relationship but Now That They Are Somebody! they’re going to prove they’ve Still Got What It Takes to pick up 20 year old girls. Whatever.
"u r awesome" ~ my daughter
by The Bird Cult on Sep 25, 2011 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Interesting points/theories, Bird Cult.
From just my viewpoint at the stadium and near there, it definitely seems like older people are less drunk and way less likely to “cause problems.”
Also, I’d argue that most of the 50-somethings have probably not been drinking a bunch since Thursday night, as I assume many of the drunk male students have.
It would be very interesting to know if the cops and security personnel are less likely to deal with the older guys than the students. (I’m assuming that older guys are more likely to be able to fight it out in the legal system).
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Sep 25, 2011 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I think 50 year old guys are less likely to start/get into fights
But I think they’re much more likely to mouth off/do bad behavior.
"u r awesome" ~ my daughter
by The Bird Cult on Sep 25, 2011 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know about "less drunk" - I think they get drunker and just don't move about as much
I had the fortune for an Indiana game to sit 3/4s of the way up on the 50 in the 80s, courtesy of a classmate whose Dad was a doctor and had season tickets.
Quite honestly, it was embarrassing. I heard a lot of statements – some smacking of straight out and out racism – coming out of the mouths of people more than old enough to know better during the game. Some of it was no doubt generational, but… it still does not make it right.
I knew the man yelling the crap was drunk, and I was a guest in those seats, so I wasn’t about to raise hell – but if it had been my regular seat I would have told that guy exactly where to put his idiocy. To the credit of the people sitting around, someone finally told him to sit down and STFU (in fact I think someone smacked him pretty good).
"u r awesome" ~ my daughter
by The Bird Cult on Sep 25, 2011 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
They didn't count Nebraska
Believe it not, they are worse.
Just beat jNW.
by One_ill_KevinJ on Sep 25, 2011 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
One would expect that those two numbers are often corollary.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
not sure but
This is no different than virtually every other college campus on game day saturday or Pro stadium on Game Day Sunday i’ve been to.
Maybe that makes me one of those middle aged DB’s, naw…it is rare for me to drink AT a game. I actually like to enjoy the environment. At home or at a bar, that is another story completely.
Exactly
I’ll drink at home – I’ll drink at a bar with friends – if I get wasted, I get someone sober to drive or take a cab home. I really don’t want to get shitfaced with a bunch of college students because I know I look stupid, just like Larry Eustachy did. None of the girls are going to go home with you; if that’s what you’re looking for, you have a much better shot hanging out at a bar with someone that’s age appropriate :-p
Besides, with tickets being almost $60 or more a pop, I want to watch the game – not barf on myself the next morning. :D
"u r awesome" ~ my daughter
by The Bird Cult on Sep 25, 2011 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Good info
So the take away from this article is don’t come on to drunken middle aged men on game day wearing a pink shirt. He didn’t say if the shirt was polo or button down. Something to note for game day prep.
by 4theluvofnile on Sep 26, 2011 1:52 AM CDT up reply actions
And then Jerry Kill had another seizure
I don’t see how he’s going to make it through the season. As a coach that is.
Link
here. After the last one they said it was a known issue, but this seems far more serious than they were letting on to. I would think after last week he would be on anti-seizure medications, but it seems like it’s not working as well as it needs to. I can’t imagine the stress is helping
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Sep 25, 2011 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
He's been having them all week. He's having difficulty with dosage on his meds.
if it isn’t under control soon I am guessing he takes a leave so as to limit distractions. It’s too bad.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Very sad.
And I would not be surprised to not see him come back, and I can’t believe MN would’ve written a contract with him – given his medical history – that would allow the U to break the coaching contract – perhaps with a very small buyout clause – if his health is such he can’t coach.
But it also says volumes about the management of the Minnesota athletic department, as well as the job up there if Jerry Kill is the best they can get – a guy with a history of health problems – to rebuild their program. Wow… its basically seems like its been Suck It City up there since Lou Holtz bolted for Notre Dame (I remember him whining about Iowa coming back from 17 down to beat him – on a FG I believe – that the first one missed but Minny had 12 men on the field and we got to rekick and won the game…).
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by The Bird Cult on Sep 25, 2011 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Kill is a great coach and a great get for Minnesota
They’ll get a handle on the right mess, but it may take a while. It’s not like the guy hasn’t been having these seizures for years, anyway.
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Sep 25, 2011 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Mess should have been "meds"
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by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Sep 25, 2011 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
He's a good coach,
but this whole situation looks bad, for him and for UM.
To be the head coach of a Big Ten team is obviously a high-stress job with a lot of long hours. I don’t see that being a situation that helps his health as he gets older.
This is why so many schools would rather “make a mistake” with a younger coach. At this point, if Kill can’t stay healthy or turn the program back in the right direction ( win 3 or 4 or more games in a season, including a game or two in conference) within a year or two, I don’t think it would be the worst idea to try to hire a younger, healthier candidate.
I don’t really feel the same about coordinators, so I will not echo the sentiment about the possibility that Iowa needs push Norm out the door.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Sep 25, 2011 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
But much like Norm Parker last year, there was a genuine family closeness to that whole situation that was nice to see.
My point is that it’s hard to say a situation like this looks bad for a program. If anything, it helps the program from an image standpoint.
Now I know that in the long term it becomes a much bigger issue. Why have a coach that isn’t able to coach? But to say this is going to be a long term issue is jumping the gun a little bit.
Hope he gets better.
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by bornofclay on Sep 27, 2011 10:53 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
What does it say about Kenny O.....
that Iowa is doing so well offensively when the QB is the one making the calls?
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Sep 25, 2011 8:11 PM CDT reply actions
that he's smart enough to understand his team
To put the plays in the book that utilize the skill set of the offense we have. As it was said above Stanzi was excellent with the roll out with that type of read but that is not JVB’s style and O’Keefe changed the offense to suit both of them.
No one should fault KOK for letting his players play the game and giving them the best tools to do so.
"Sometimes the truth gets in the way of a good story" - KF
by The Bacon Explosion on Sep 25, 2011 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Meh
i think you give him too much credit, because what i got from it was that a junior QB was better at telling what situation called for what than the offensive coordinator. besides, why couldnt he figure out that Vandy wasnt that good in the rollout during the month of practice?
im glad our offense is succeeding, but it makes me question how good of a gameday coordinator O’Keefe really is.
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Sep 25, 2011 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
What I got from it is that's a bullshit assessment.
You honestly think that our quarterbacks coach who was a head coach for almost a decade and has been the QB coach/OC at a BCS school for over a decade has no idea how to coach?
i never said he didnt know how to coach, I think he knows how to coach
i just dont think he is very good at it when it comes to gameday. never have. it takes him too long to adjust and there are times where his calls make me think he is psycho. im not going to change that opinion, an opinion that many fans on this and other sites have stated and commented on, because we had a really good game against UL-Monroe.
if you dont like my assessment, i dont really care all that much. personally i think its bullshit that one game and one quarter has suddenly made KOK an offensive genius in some peoples eyes.
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Sep 25, 2011 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I used the wrong word?
looks like i fail the internet forever then
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Sep 25, 2011 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Why don't you apply for the job?
KOK can call a pretty good game. Sometimes even an excellent game. Like anybody else, if balls get dropped or people start doing stupid shit like getting going early or committing personal fouls, it doesn’t matter what he calls for plays.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Sep 25, 2011 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
*rolls eyes*
I get it, my opinion is unpopular. i think KOK has lost us some games with his play calling and overall is not that great of a gameday coach, and i have had this opinion reinforced multiple times, i think he is also a pretty good gameplan and training coach, and im sure hes a great guy. i was probably misinformed on how much Vandy was calling, because i was under the impression he was picking whatever play out of quite a few plays he wanted to run.
i also had no idea this opinion was this big of a deal. Thats fine if you all think he is a great coach and all, discussions and disagreements make the internet go round, but il hold you up to that opinion in the future…..ya know, assuming i remember.
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Sep 25, 2011 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
You're around here enough, so I'm sure you know that there are a few of "us"
fairly-frequent commentors, who kind of tire easily of blaming the coaches for what we perceive as “every problem that comes along.”
There are many people who aren’t fond of KOK or at least his game-calling.
All the coaches have faults. But, I tend to give them some leeway because I think Iowa’s program is a challenging one to keep highly successful on a year-in-year-out basis.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Sep 25, 2011 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
I’m not trying to poke you with a stick somehawkeye, but you just claimed the opinion “KOK sux” is unpopular, but you couldn’t be farther from the truth.
That is the oldest meme on the Iowa based interwebz (that and Hayden shot J.R.).
Buck up. Somebody called you on your generality. It’s okay.
I used to think KOK was turrible, but then I learned more about what they are trying to do, and looked at what they work with every year.
Now I feel like I have some Beautiful Mind moments, when I see the play diagrams flying around in the air, because I just realized that KOK ran the same play three times in a row in the third quarter of a game we were trying to ice (which drove me nuts, cause each time it only got a yard), and then next game he wrinkled it, changing one little detail which leads to a nice touchdown or drive saver or whatever (because the other team thought they knew what was coming, and so did I).
"TAYLOR MARTINEZ IS AIDS ON TWO FEET"
-@DanBeebe
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Sep 25, 2011 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh noes, he rolled his eyes at me.
If you haven’t realized that he’s doing what KF wants him to do by now, there’s no hope for you. The man’s doing what he’s told, and that’s it. If you don’t like it, you need to aim a little higher with your derision.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Sep 26, 2011 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Gameplans.....
…You use those on gamedays, right?
Seriously though, he’s a pretty good coach. Pretty good coaches lose games all the time, sometimes by falling on their own sword. But just because you give the qb more freedom does not mean you’re an incapable coach.
Peyton Manning. That is all.
I said I have a DRINKING PROBLEM!!
by bornofclay on Sep 27, 2011 11:10 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
If you're talking about adjustments,
Then I think you could make the argument that KF and Co. are some of the best coaches at making adjustments.
We haven’t lost by double digits since when? 2007? That’s making adjustments to put/keep your team in position to win.
KOK/NP/KF aren’t perfect, and are pretty awful at game clock management, but at adjustments, they are pretty ferkin’ good.
I said I have a DRINKING PROBLEM!!
by bornofclay on Sep 27, 2011 11:03 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd say that it is good that KOK is giving Vandy some options.
But he is limiting Vandy with the personnel packages.
I like Vandy, but I really don’t think we’d want him just calling all the plays from his memory or from a list on his forearm.
KOK certainly has weaknesses (I can’t help but blame him for when we fail to get a play in and have to take a timeout or a delay penalty because the play clock is running down). And yes, his use of the reverse and some other plays can be maddening to many of us. And we do under-perform at times against Indiana, Minnesota, and other teams not known for stout defenses. But, I have to think KOK has been a net-positive for Iowa football.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Sep 25, 2011 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
i appreciated this comment
that is all
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Sep 25, 2011 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Unrelated Iowa News
Anthony Clemmons has committed to the Iowa Basketball team.
I dont know a whole lot about him other than he is a PG, has a few MAC offers, and is supposed to be a good defensive player.
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Sep 25, 2011 8:29 PM CDT reply actions
KOK kidnapped?
I was at the game and when they rolled out the no huddle the crowd just gasp with excitement. And everyone was joking about KOK being locked up, missing the bus, kidnapped….very funny. Ferentz comment about being hard headed is actually way too true!
I think that the running game is in serious need of a legitimate fullback.
Coker ended up with good numbers, but it’s pretty apparent that our running game is going to struggle when we get to the Big Ten. It’s probably due to a number of factors, but I think that our fullback is the chief culprit.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
So the coaching staff needs to figure out how to get the running game going with this deficiency in mind
We can’t wait for the injured FBs to return next year to have a running attack.
This is now the Pat Angerer thread
Seriously he’s made like every tackle for the Colts tonight.
"You start to get out of bed, you say, 'Oh, [expletive], I only got one leg on, I better get the other leg on.'" -- Norm Parker
I realize that its not the best situation to come into, but Painter looks bad
Overthrow a sure 1st down and then a one hopper last series… he look terrified.
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by The Bird Cult on Sep 25, 2011 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Troy Polamalu
will do that to a person.
"You start to get out of bed, you say, 'Oh, [expletive], I only got one leg on, I better get the other leg on.'" -- Norm Parker
Was Painter the backup in the offseason?
I guess what I’m asking is, when the Colts knew that they weren’t going to have Manning to start the season (at least), they went out and got Collins, which says they didn’t have enough confidence in the backup to go in. Was it him or somebody else? Either way, you have to think Painter hasn’t gotten any reps in practice since they’ve been getting Collins up to speed.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Sep 25, 2011 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah 19 tackles
at the moment
He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Sep 25, 2011 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
20
He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Sep 25, 2011 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
A couple of weeks ago,
I debated about picking up Curtis Painter for my fantasy team, in case Kerry Collins got hurt or washed out quick.
Tonight tells me that Painter is not the droid I’m looking for.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
I realize every QB wants to be the starter, but...
You’d think Indy would have had – for years – a better backup plan than what they had this season for Manning – Kerry Collins is too OLD. There had to be a half dozen guys available that were better than Collins but the Colts screwed around too long… oh well, if they go 0-16 without Manning they ought to be able to pick up a good draft pick… LOL
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by The Bird Cult on Sep 25, 2011 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
They gambled & won for a long time
This year, not so much…
The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.
by HawkeyeGirleye on Sep 25, 2011 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, it was pretty ridiculous to assume Peyton would stay injury free
And like Favre (and probably his younger brother too) he’s played hurt probably way too much, and it finally caught up with him. It took me the better part of 2 1/2 years for a left IT band injury to heal enough that I could start running again seriously – and then I got waylaid by plantar fasciitis in both feet. That was fun – not. I ran through the PF, running it wasn’t so bad, it was after running that it hurt – a lot. Very weird – it just BOOM went away after about 3 months.
I’m not an elite athlete, I don’t have trainers, special facilities, etc. and I’m almost 50. I can’t imagine what its like to try to heal each week with the beatings that QBs at the NFL level take.
"u r awesome" ~ my daughter
by The Bird Cult on Sep 25, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
It's something our little group of friends has chatted about for years
& yet they got away with it for so long. Time to pay the piper, Indy!
I don’t know how pro (or college, for that matter) get thru the day physically. I love the sport but it’s horrible what It does to their bodies. Makes me feel like a big hypocrit for enjoying it as much as I do.
I had PF for a brief time (under much less physically stressful conditions than you were in) & it’s no fun.
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by HawkeyeGirleye on Sep 25, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Every team does it
No team is ever going to to give the backup reps during the week as long as the starter is probable, and any backup that’s good enough to be a starter is going to leave as soon as he can. (How’s that working out for you, Matt Cassel?)
"You start to get out of bed, you say, 'Oh, [expletive], I only got one leg on, I better get the other leg on.'" -- Norm Parker
True
Yet you look at the Pats & the Packers & see how they managed to groom the next guy while the stud was still rolling & you wonder how the Colts didn’t.
The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.
by HawkeyeGirleye on Sep 25, 2011 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Some teams just make it more of a priority.
For instance, the Eagles had McNabb (pre-corpse), Kolb, and Vick on their roster two years ago.
There are some backups right now that might be serviceable (Volek, Gradkowski), but it is hard to justify giving up a decent draft pick to get them.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Sep 26, 2011 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
They had a better backup plan
Sorgi wasn’t awful. But you really have to wonder about releasing a career backup who knew your system when Manning had already had one neck surgery.
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one scratching my head over that one
Very odd chain of events
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by HawkeyeGirleye on Sep 26, 2011 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably had to find money to sign Peyton f-o-r-e-v-e-r
Still dumb to release Sorgi
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by The Bird Cult on Sep 26, 2011 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe it's me
But I feel like Coker isn’t getting enough credit, he made some pretty clutch plays in the game. I’m generally all about the Defense and QB/WR combos, but damn, that boy can really run.
I agree
His footwork looked better yesterday. He seemed more decisive and I hope he’s turning the corner after maybe feeling the pressure the first three games.
He's not the fastest
but he definitely has the instinct, he’s stupid in the sense that he’ll run right into people, but when he breaks free, he does very well. The O-Line is doing a far better job of opening holes up for him. He can also catch the ball, he had a really nice reception that I remember seeing pretty late in the game.
I voted other.
The bigger story was the no huddle. So I nominate KOK and Ferentz for the play calling.
by 2LastNameWideReceiver on Sep 26, 2011 11:24 AM CDT reply actions























