2011 Iowa Football Fall Practice Preview: Five Questions On Defense
Yesterday we did the offense, which means today it's time for the defense (and special teams) to get examined.
1) Who are these new faces in old places on the defensive line?
The defensive line saw some of the most dramatic change on the depth chart between spring and fall:
SPRING
DE: Broderick Binns, Dominic Alvis
DT: Mike Daniels, Steve Bigach
DT: Thomas Nardo, Carl Davis
DE: Lebron Daniel, Joe Forgy
FALL
DE: Broderick Binns, Joe Forgy/Mike Hardy
DT: Mike Daniels, Carl Davis
DT: Dominic Alvis, Steve Bigach/Thomas Nardo
DE: Lebron Daniel, Joe Gaglione
Three of the projected starters (Binns, Daniels, and Daniel) remain the same, but after that? Chaos. Alvis moves from back-up defensive end to starting defensive tackle. Nardo moves from starting defensive tackle to splitting time with Bigach at back-up defensive tackle. Mike Hardy and Joe Gaglione emerge from out of nowhere to crack the two-deeps. It's madness. Madness, I tell you! Or it's just totally expected depth chart shuffling at positions where very little is fixed. One or the other.
The most intriguing move is Alvis, a guy who appears ideally suited to fill the Mitch King/Karl Klug-size void in Iowa's defensive line. Under the radar prospect? Try 2* and non-Iowa offers from UNI and South Dakota. He even comes from a small town in Iowa I've never heard of (Logan). Undersized? He came to Iowa listed at 6'4", 225 lbs and is still only listed at 6'4", 255 lbs (which is farly close to the listed weights for King and Klug when they first cracked the line-up). He drew praise from Ferentz after spring practice and from Norm on the I-Club circuit and Morehouse has mentioned him favorably on some of the On Iowa podcasts.
There are some other eyebrow-raising names among the back-ups, too. Gaglione generated some early buzz as an incoming recruit because he had 22 sacks as a high school senior (not sure of the competition level there, but still: 22 sacks!), but injuries over the past 2-3 years have kept him from even sniffing the depth chart, let alone the field. Hardy's a Wisconsin recruit that Iowa managed to get despite offers from Nebraska and the Badgers; he's shuffled between DT and DE, but it looks like end has won out for now. Iowa has two senior starters at DE this fall, so the opportunity is there for considerable playing time in the near future. And there's also Carl Davis (a DT of uncommon size for Iowa) and Thomas Nardo and Steve Bigach (who have great names, if nothing else). None of these guys are probably ready to be every-down starters yet, but they could make an impact as high-energy subs who rotate in to cause some havoc. Remember when Karl Klug saw spot duty in 2008 (and won a Defensive Player of the Week Award?!) on his way to becoming a terrormonster in 2009 and 2010? One (or more) of these guys could be on that exact same career path.
2) What's going on at WLB?
Two LB spots seem pretty well-settled: Tyler Nielsen is recovered from his broken freakin' neck and ready to resume his starting gig at OLB and James Morris is ready to level up and become a conference-smothering destroyer of souls at MLB. (And if he's not, then Bruce Davis, who's the living embodiment of a brick shithouse, is probably ready to carry the reins at MLB.) WLB was a little more nebulous, though: Christian Kirksey and Anthony Hitchens were divided by a slash on the spring depth chart. For now, Kirksey appears to have moved ahead of Hitchens, since the slash has changed to a comma (ah, depth chartin': where punctuation assumes vital importance). (Hitchens can't escape the slash, though: he's splitting time with Shane DiBona at the back-up WLB spot.)
Interestingly, both Kirksey and Hitchens appear to represent a change in the defensive mindset at Iowa. Kirksey is listed at 6'2", 215 lbs and Hitchens is listed at 6'1", 224 lbs. That's definitely smaller than the last guy to fill the WLB spot, Jeremiha Hunter, listed at 6'2", 235 lbs. Which, as it happens, is the exact same listed height and weight for DiBona. Ten years ago, DiBona probably starts at WLB for Iowa, given his size and experience. Barring some strangeness at practice, though, he won't start this year, while a smaller, quicker guy like Hitchens or Kirksey will. Short of switching to a base nickel defense, this might be the most obvious concession to the need to address the prevalence of spread offenses and dink-and-dunk passing games Iowa faces year in and year out now. And if Hitchens or Kirksey can actually effectively defend slot receivers and speedy tight ends? Then it will be a very welcome change indeed.
3) Seriously, what the hell is going on in the secondary?
As much depth chart tumult as there was on the defensive line, there was no shortage of it in the secondary, either:
SPRING
CB: Shaun Prater, Greg Castillo
CB: Micah Hyde, B.J. Lowery
FS: Tanner Miller, Jack Swanson
SS: Collin Sleeper, Tom Donatell
FALL
CB: Shaun Prater, Jordan Bernstine
CB: Greg Castillo, B.J. Lowery
FS: Micah Hyde, Tanner Miller
SS: Collin Sleeper, Tom Donatell
BY GAWD, that's Jordan Bernstine's music! He's cracked the depth chart! Unfortunately, he's listed behind the one absolute sure thing on the depth chart and when Ferentz was talking about the cornerback situation at Media Days, Bernstine didn't even rate a mention. So that doesn't exactly bode well for Bernstine's chances of playing time at CB. Which doesn't necessarily mean he has no hope of seeing the field, though; he did rate a mention by Ferentz a little later, when he was talking about the safety spots, which are moderately unsettled -- and where Bernstine may be a better fit, anyway.
The safety spots do see the most notable change on the depth chart, though, since they have the latest confirmation that Hyde is moving to free safety. If it was an experiment in the spring, it's all but written in ink now. He's evidently adjusted well to the switch and Castillo and Lowery have looked at least decent as his replacements at CB. The move relieves some of the anxiety over the safety spots -- instead of breaking in two new starters at those spots, Iowa now really just has to break in one. And there's no shortage of competition for that spot: either Sleeper or Donatell would fill the Iowa quota of having a walk-on starting at safety, while Tanner Miller has drawn praise from the coaches and fits the Tyler Sash mold of being a lightly-recruited Iowa kid who starred in multiple sports in high school. Bernstine should also be in the mix and there's even a chance of one of the incoming freshmen (like Nico Law or Jordan Lomax) turning enough heads this month to grab the starting gig. With most of the other starting spots on the team looking fairly settled, strong safety should easily be the most intriguing position battle to follow during fall practice -- and probably even into the first few weeks of the season (lest we forget that Harold Dalton was the starter at SS coming out of camp in 2008, only to lose his job to Tyler Sash before the end of September).
4) Who's kicking the ball and how concerned should I be?
To answer the first question, according to the depth chart, that would be Mike Meyer (placekicker) and Eric Guthrie (punter). So, the two guys everyone pretty much expected. The depth chart doesn't list back-up kickers or punters, but presumably Trent Mossbrucker and Jonny Mullings are ably filling those roles, respectively. To answer the second question... er, well, has there been a time since Kaeding graduated that you weren't concerned about at least one of the two spots? Meyer had pretty good stats (14/17 FG), but he also missed an extra point (and had another blocked because the protection screwed up), had trouble with distance (no field goals made longer than 42 yards, trouble getting kickoffs to the end zone), and had less-than-stellar form on some of his made kicks. Mind you, he was also a freshman, so growing pains are to be expected. But for the time being a little concern is probably warranted.
As for punter, Eric Guthrie has one career kick on his college resume: a 32-yard (!) punt against Iowa State last year. 32 yards is not exactly impressive, but one kick is also a ridiculously small sample size. We might as well just continue considering him a blank slate until he gets a few kicks in during the season. But after four (mostly) excellent years of punting from Ryan Donahue, yeah, we're a little nervous about seeing a new face back there. Considering that Iowa seems to live in the margins under Ferentz (especially lately), Iowa needs all they help they can get out of their specialists... and it's impossible to feel confident in them at the moment.
5) And what about return men?
An insightful question; unfortunately, the depth chart omits returners entirely. In spring, the only listed names were Keenan Davis at KR and Marvin McNutt at PR. There's probably a better chance of Herky returning punts for Iowa than McNutt, so go ahead and eliminate that possibility right now. Keenan probably will be one of the starting kick returners; he did it last year and did okay (9 returns for 175 yards). As for the other kick returner (and the punt returner)... /shrug
If this was NCAA FOOTBALL '12, you'd probably just sort the roster by speed, agility, and acceleration and grab the guys with the highest ratings there. Judging by the listed (fake) 40 times, that would probably mean giving shots to guys like Bernstine, Torrey Campbell, and Jordan Lomax, who all have (fake) 40 times listed in the 4.4 range. Which makes about as much sense as anything else right now; whatever other methods Iowa has been using to find kick returners in recent years hasn't led to boffo results (aside from DJK). There's also a school of thought that Hyde should get a crack at punt returner, based on his excellence in returning interceptions for scores last year. Sure, why not? I'm not sure Iowa's had a truly solid option at PR since Ramon Ochoa was back there.
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Is Hardy going to be a RS freshman?
"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton
Realistically..
What are the chances of Darian Cooper grabbing a D line spot? Like his size and experience going against the nations top o line prospect every day in practice.
"And after it was all over, he took us in the house and served us pancakes... pancakes." - Charlie Murphy
by Podolak Pimpin' on Aug 4, 2011 11:17 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I think that the difference in the level of physicality in line play is one of the bigger jumps between high school and college. I suppose it depends on how physically mature the kid really is.
"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton
Completely agree with that statement..
Given he can adjust quickly, I think he atleast could possibly crack the two deeps given our mystery of some d line guys. Obviously, as history dictates recruiting hype doesn’t always translate.
"And after it was all over, he took us in the house and served us pancakes... pancakes." - Charlie Murphy
by Podolak Pimpin' on Aug 4, 2011 12:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd love to see Carl Davis
do some things this year. If Cooper gets some time then either he is a special player or the Iowa D is in some trouble.
"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton
He's got a shot.
I believe he’s coming in as a tackle and outside of Mike Daniels, we don’t have much (or anything) in the way of proven bodies there. Ballard played as a frosh and Ferentz has all but admitted that he regrets not playing Clayborn as a frosh in 2006. If Cooper is as ready as he appears to be on paper, I think we’ll see him in action. I would tend to doubt he’ll start as a frosh, but he could be part of a rotation. Assuming I’m not being too insane in hoping that there IS a rotation.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Well according to Kirk there will be
He said there will probably be a rotation of 6, 7, or even 8 d-lineman. Also, Coach Wilson has said at an I-Club meeting in the DC area that Cooper was told not to expect to be a starter coming in, but be 1A. So there’s that. This is of course assuming he earns it.
by Captain n Diet Coker on Aug 4, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure, they usually give lip service to rotations.
The trick is whether or not they actually do it or if we’re left with a bunch of gassed-out linemen giving up 80+ yard drives in the fourth quarter again.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
when games are tight those coaches sometimes pucker and they stick with the best guys almost to a fault.
"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton
But if the Best guys
are taking a knee in between plays, that may be a sign that they need a breather or that they’re outright done for the day.
Skol!
I have to believe
that if there was a single issue that generated more time and Zantac for the past 8 months, it was this one. I’m optimistic that they’ll sub-out more, and more effectively, this year.
We play tackle football.
Exactly.
Carl Davis is intriguing too. But Cooper is coming in looking pretty stout at 6’ 1" 285/90 range. Is Davis 3 bills?
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by Podolak Pimpin' on Aug 4, 2011 1:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He will definitely get a good introduction to major college football practicing against that o-line this August.
"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton
Oh man, what an intro.
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by Podolak Pimpin' on Aug 4, 2011 1:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Davis is listed at 6'5", 295.
He’s a big, big boy.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
He's going to have to make up ground quick
because KF just confirmed at media day that Cooper isn’t in camp yet and won’t be until the middle of next week. The mods over at the Report said a final transcript was never sent from his high school – which just happens to be closed this week and no one is there to send it. So Cooper went back east to get it sent ASAP.
What a shit show. At least the words “NCAA Clearinghouse” weren’t involved.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
Seems like Iowa's reent punt return prospect has had surer hands than elusiveness.
Typically, that’s seemed to be a white person; although I’m not sure that’s a factor in the qualification.
meh
Weird racial joke is weird, and racial.
Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 4, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
This is what it means to be an Iowa football fan – “I’d much prefer our punt returner can catch the ball than do anything with it.”
Also, if Collin Sleeper is on the field a lot, be ready for the potpourri of announcers we draw to go with Carl Schleper, Cal Schlicher, etc., etc. There’s no fucking chance they’re getting that right.
So the word floating around Dubuque last year w/ regards to the hometown kicker
Is that the coaches started trying to change his mechanics as soon as he made it to campus. I saw him kick at Wahlert several times and he used to kick these line drives on kick offs that landed 5 yds or so deep in the endzone. They tried to change it out of fear that his kicks were to low to clear the hands on field goals at the B1G level. I don’t have an update as to where he is now, but elevating the ball seem to give him some troubles. Hopefully he kind find a happy medium.
"If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be research." - Albert Einstein
"Consider them rolled." - Jim Delany
by 6 seconds of hell on Aug 4, 2011 11:57 AM CDT reply actions
That would make sense
he seemed to kick a lot of low liners last year.
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
Should that be affecting his kickoffs, though?
Obviously, you don’t have a bunch of guys trying to block the kickoff, so you don’t have to get it up to be successful. (Haha, TWSS) Can’t a kicker “aim high” for field goals (especially shorter ones) and “aim” for distance on kickoffs? Does it confuse his whole kicking motion? Could all of the veteran place-kickers here please weigh in?
The impression I get is that there was a fundamental change in his approach to the ball/timing
I’m guessing it’s tough to go back and forth. I know kickers try to kick short fgs high, but power isn’t an issue on those kicks.
I think the comparison that best fits is the golf swing. Some players play the ball up in the air and others play much lower ball flight. It’s possible to go back and forth, but its hard to do both well. The line you take to the ball is just to different to excel both ways.
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by 6 seconds of hell on Aug 4, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Kick Returners
I would love to see a young burner back there. Seems like forever since we had a real threat to take it to the house. Any chance one of the new RBs like Canzeri gets the nod?
I would like to see Canzeri find the field
His recruiting vids showed some sneaky speed. Then again he was not running against B1G level competition.
He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Aug 4, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
And we have no idea if he can catch and/or hang on to the ball.
But yeah, I’d like to see that kind of speed and shiftiness back there too. TWSS?
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by Bucketochicken on Aug 4, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he returned kicks in HS, so I would assume he's at least familiar catching kicks.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I would like to see Canzeri too
but I think once his body gets asploded a few times on returns, he may have to sit. He needs some bulk. I think Torrey Campbell would work. He appears to be as fast as Jordan.
Battles are won with a hammer, wars are won with a scalpel
I'm less concerned about D-line after seeing what
the NFL D-linemen yielded us last year (few sacks and TFLs). In Norm’s schemes we need cover guys. So LB is more of a concern for me. Can James Morris cover anyone? Can we run a legit nickle or dime defense? As for WLB I expect rotation there depending on down and distance.
This is the year for us to use our rotations more effectively. When teams go no huddle, that suggests to me the cover guys need to find a way in to the game. I’m not expecting sacks. I never do from Norm. They’re gravy in this system.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Morris has potential in coverage
I remember Ben Chappell talking about how Morris was really reading him well last year and doing a good job of taking away some options.
"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton
I'm hoping this kid is not being overhyped
we could use a new star LB to anchor this defense.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
He made a few mistakes, but he still played better as a true freshman at MLB than anyone else I can recall at Iowa.
Better than some upperclasmen, too. I think he’ll be fine with more experience.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
He certainly made some fantastic plays in the Insight Bowl
by Captain n Diet Coker on Aug 4, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Saw that
I think even those extra 15 (or however many) practices they get for bowl games showed improvement. He’s so fast and really has a nose for the ball(no T-baggin jokes please…take it to hamsterdam) and when he starts to improve his skills and study of the position, I think he’s going to be dangerous.
Skol!
I would say that it isn’t too much to say that he could be at least as good as Angerer
"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton
There is plenty of room for two good ex-Iowa middle linebackers in the NFL
"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton
So this isn't like HIGHLANDER?
That’s good to know.
Although I was looking forward to Angerer and Morris having a big sword fight in a few years.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
in my eyes Angerer is at least top 10 Iowa LB if not top 5. Morris isn’t there yet. So saying that it isn’t too much to say that he will be at least as good as Angerer is saying a lot, just saying.
"I don't believe in quotes" - Karl Klug
I know he isn’t there yet and I know I am probably being too optimistic, but I think the kid is going to be very good. Nevertheless, it is probably better if I leave the comparisons to past players alone for a while.
"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton
James Morris is going to be a star.
Just ask Matt Millen for an objective answer.
"...take it to Hamsterdam."
It is his apparent intelligence and maturity that heartens me
he has the physical skills and with a good head one his shoulders I have faith that he can be that guy.
"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton
He looks stiff and slow to me
but he does seem to be in the right place an LOT.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
At that Illinois Nike camp, they were saying he was all over the running backs in coverage drills. I think they thought pretty highly of his wheels. Maybe he wasn’t at often at full speed last year, because he was still learning where to be, or perhaps not.
"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton
He played so many positions in high school
and overall has a good mind for the game, that I think a lot of the time he’s a step ahead of where he needs to be, and thus seems slow/stiff.
He’s not slow.
Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 4, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he will be better in coverage and in all aspects this year
He will do more reaction and less thinking, he should play faster.
Battles are won with a hammer, wars are won with a scalpel
How big is Davis?
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Aug 4, 2011 12:22 PM CDT reply actions
Holy shit.
Get him on the field. Now.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Aug 4, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey Terrance Cody.
"...take it to Hamsterdam."
by BoilerHawk on Aug 4, 2011 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
AHA!!
I’m not sure Iowa’s had a truly solid option at PR since Ramon Ochoa was back there.
THERE is my choice for most under-rated hawkeye under ferentz
Can I ask another question?
With Norm back full time, does KF feel they have answers for the variety of reasons that contributed to late game collapses? I’m not really worried about the personnel. I mean, I am, don’t get me wrong, but I have confidence that if Norm and Kirk tell me these are the best guys we have, they’re the best we have. Is the team ready, coaches to players, to hold games we’re winning in the forth?
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
From what I've heard, it sounds like he's talked about missed opportunities earlier in the game
causing these games to be closer than they should. He’s said that we put ourselves in situations earlier in the ballgame that’s caused this. I haven’t heard/seen anything about KF addressing the meltdowns that we’ve all watched and hated.
Skol!
Yes on the early-game missed opportunities
but he also talked about how piss-poor our “special” teams (outside of punting) were and they have tried to address that in the last couple recruiting classes.
We're gonna go America all over their asses!
I know everyone talks about Daniels on the d-line, and for good reason.
But I wouldn’t be surprised if Binns put together a pretty solid year. He’s got the size (and those arms, Jesus, those arms.) to be more effective than last year. He looked like an up-and-comer in ’09 but then kind of took a step back in ’10.
Binns is a solid player
but I believe he lacks the speed burst to create any pressure. I can’t really think of an instance where he got by his defender and sacked the quarterback. I know he has made sacks but only after the qb was flushed from the pocket. When he knocks down a pass he is usually 2 or 3 yards away from the qb.
I hope that he has learned some swim techniques or is better at the bull rush this year. I would love for him to finally have a break-out season.
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by Bloodpunch's Barbasol on Aug 5, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Mike Meyer
I’ve seen Mike Meyer kicking in Dubuque all summer long. Kicking 65 FG consistently. Kaeding say he’s NFL talent if he keeps his head on straight. I believe Meyer will be just fine. As for punting……………………………….
BHGP has spies everywhere.
Fine peeping, sir.
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Can we call BIgach/Nardo
Bigass Lardo?
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
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I wouldn't
to their faces
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by HeartOfHawkness on Aug 4, 2011 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Ross
I thought Mullings was the second coming of Reggie Roby when he was recruited. Is Guthrie really that much better than Mullings? What have you heard? I sure would like to see some of those monstorous punts, from Mullings, on the field, like the ones I saw on that You Tube video.
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by Bloodpunch's Barbasol on Aug 5, 2011 10:42 AM CDT reply actions
I remember hearing that Mullings is having trouble getting his punts off in good time
He has been taking too long and that is just inviting getting blocked.
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by ClaybornSmash on Aug 5, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
His mechanics are all screwy, apparently.
Until he gets that sorted out, he’s not seeing the field.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Well he'd better sort it out quick.
That recruit from WV (?) probably doesn’t plan on sitting around waiting for Aussie to get this technique sorted.
by The Mexican't on Aug 5, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
CHILDREN OF THE KORNBRATH ATTAAAAAAAACK
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Thanks
Ross and ClaybornSmash for the updates. I was not aware of his poor mechanics.
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by Bloodpunch's Barbasol on Aug 5, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
speaking of /shrug...
is he in a football uni somewhere, I cant find him anywhere. I know that his name has been erased from Hawkeye lore and history books, but will the no name continue to follow him forever? Hes gotta be descent enough to find a roster somewhere…am I wrong?
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by chuck longs mom on Aug 5, 2011 11:51 AM CDT reply actions
Hey, I'm back. What's in the 'fridge?
This post has nothing to do with this thread except to say its August and that means football. Go Hawks!
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