Meet Your New Favorite Player: A.J. Derby Named Backup Quarterback (And Other Football Notes)
by RossWB on Aug 31, 2011 7:30 AM CDT
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PrintAJ Derby, welcome to the fishbowl. The race to backup the Mandenberg has been tight ever since spring, but now we appear to have a winner:
Kirk Ferentz said in his Big Ten teleconference call today that if the Hawkeyes were to play tomorrow, A.J. Derby would be the "next guy in the game" should starter James Vandenberg not be able to perform.
So if Vandenberg gets hurt (hopefully not) or Iowa is able to build a sufficient lead to sit the starters (hopefully so), we should get our first crack of A.J. Derby in live game action. At which point I guess we can all start pining for Rudock because Derby will have gone all lamestream on us.
And cheer up, John Weinke, you're a backup, too. Okay, backup punter.
Depth Chartin'. Your up-to-the-minute two-deeps for this weekend:
QB: James Vandenberg, A.J. Derby
RB: Marcus Coker, Jason White
FB: Matt Meyers / Jonathan Gimm
WR: Marvin McNutt, Steven Staggs
WR: Keenan Davis, Kevonte Martin-Manley
TE: Brad Herman, C.J. Fiedorowicz / Zach Derby
LT: Riley Reiff, Andrew Donnal
LG: Matt Tobin, Brandon Scherff
C: James Ferentz, Conor Boffeli
RG: Adam Gettis, Woody Orne
RT: Marcus Zusevics, Brett Van Sloten
DE: Lebron Daniel, Dominic Alvis / Joe Forgy
DT: Thomas Nardo / Dominic Alvis, Carl Davis
DT: Mike Daniels, Joe Gaglione
DE: Broderick Binns, Steve Bigach
OLB: Tyler Nielsen, Tom Donatell
MLB: James Morris, Bruce Davis
WLB: Christian Kirksey, Anthony Hitchens
CB: Shaun Prater, Jordan Bernstine
FS: Micah Hyde, Tanner Miller
SS: Collin Sleeper, Jordan Bernstine
CB: Greg Castillo, Micah Hyde
K: Mike Meyer, Trent Mossbrucker
P: Eric Guthrie, John Wienke
PR: Micah Hyde
KR: Keenan Davis, Jordan Bernstine
Notably absent from these two-deeps: any and all true freshmen. That isn't an indication that they won't play, though; far from it, in fact, as Ferentz expects 6-9 true freshmen to play, including potentially all three running backs. Based on buzz out of camp, the most likely bets to see the field are Mika'il McCall, Ray Hamilton, Torrey Campbell, Darian Cooper, Jacob Hillyer, Nico Law, Jordan Canzeri, and maybe Melvin Spears or Quinton Alston. Given the obvious needs at running back, in the defensive backfield, and along the defensive line, I'd be shocked if McCall, Campbell, and Cooper weren't on the field at some point Saturday. Tight end isn't a position of great need, but Hamilton has been drawing effusive praise thus far, so Cobra Kai will probably see the field, too.
As for anything else of note... Ferentz confirmed today that Tobin will start at left guard. Fullback is kind of a mess. Dominic Alvis is versatile. Ditto Jordan Bernstine. Bernstine still isn't officially listed as a starter, but it sounds like he'll get some run at strong safety on Saturday. He and Davis will also get first crack at kick return duties, while Hyde tries his hand at punt returns.
Injuries! Ferentz also updated various injuries:
* CB B.J. Lowery: broken wrist (out a month)
* OG Nolan MacMillan: sports hernia (out indefinitely)
* LB Dakota Getz: shoulder injury (out indefinitely)
* DT Carl Davis: leg injury (out one week)
* FB Brad Rogers: heart condition (out indefinitely)
Everyone else is apparently good to go for Tennessee Tech.
And, lo, there shall be a rotation. Ferentz is also still talking the talk about rotation on the defensive line:
Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz said Tuesday he sees a rotation of six and maybe eight going into Saturday’s opener against Tennessee Tech. Binns and tackle Mike Daniels are the pegs. The idea for the rotation, Ferentz said, is to figure out who can do what and then, maybe, narrow that six to eight.
We'll see Saturday how well he walks the walk. Of course, he may have no choice since the options past Binns and Daniels range from "intriguing" to "mildly terrifying." Based on the depth chart (and comments in the presser), you can pencil in Daniel, Alvis, and Nardo as part of that rotation. As far as the other 1-3 spots, the most likely options are Gaglione, Bigach, Forgy, and Cooper. Fingers crossed that there are some pleasant surprises in that lot and maybe even a Karl Klug-esque breakout sensation.
Finally, let there be light (maybe). Per Bloodpunch, Iowa could maybe sorta one day add permanent lights to Kinnick.
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Steven Staggs
this name comes out of left field for me. I love these walk ons with something to prove.
I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan
re: Steven Staggs
He has kind of been under the radar since reaching his height of popularity in the late ’60s and early ’70s. Some of the guys he played with, like Neil Young or David Crosby, went on to have more commercial and solo success, but Steven Staggs has long been held in very high regard by his peers. Good to see him making a comeback.
by H I McDonnough on Aug 31, 2011 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Still confused as to how he got the nickname "Boz."
"Oh, glorious cheeseburger, we bow to thee. The secrets of the Universe are between the buns."
by Bucketochicken on Aug 31, 2011 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Boz Scaggs
"I've never seen a supernova, but if it's anything like my old Chevy Nova it'll light up the night sky." - Philip J. Fry
That strikes me as a Paki-style "thank you" depth chart spot, but we'll see
During kids day Shumpert was playing a lot more than Staggs, but maybe he closed the gap since. Either way KMM is the third receiver and number 4 receiver on Iowa is good for like maybe 10 catches a year.
Maybe even less, with so many promising options at tight end.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Favorite #4 Receiver
Might be Don Nordmann, because after every one of his 10 catches last year I thought “Whoa! Ed Hinkle, WTF?!,” then, “Oh right, Nordmann.”
Jack Trice Stadium - Easily one of the Top 10 Stadiums in Central Iowa
by Not Marv Cook on Aug 31, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not even sure the Nordster ever even rose to the lofty heights of number 4
He was always good for at least one ridiculous spring game catch that inevitably caused a bunch of morons to demand he play more though, so at least he’s got that.
I believe he was in the Insight Bowl.
And he had like a 30 yard reception on the deep cross. I remember it remarkably vividly.
"...take it to Hamsterdam."
hmmm
Finally, let there be light (maybe). Per Bloodpunch, Iowa could maybe sorta one day add permanent lights to Kinnick.
…or possibly not.
We're gonna go America all over their asses!
But maybe!
"Oh, glorious cheeseburger, we bow to thee. The secrets of the Universe are between the buns."
by Bucketochicken on Aug 31, 2011 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Iowa could possibly one day finish/round out the corners out and make it a bowl stadium
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Aug 31, 2011 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Negative
This is Iowa. We’re a bunch of squares.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
That's kind of a misnomer.
A lot of Iowans I see are more egg-shaped.
"Oh, glorious cheeseburger, we bow to thee. The secrets of the Universe are between the buns."
by Bucketochicken on Aug 31, 2011 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions
That's muscle
soft, doughy, muscle.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
The Pancheros Party Deck
overlooking beautiful Hamburg Inn field at Cub Foods-Kinnick Stadium
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
I really miss the Cub foods that used to be here in town
Their peanut butter cups are better than Reese’s.
I seem to recall when they were discussing the renovation
That they tested the soil around Kinnick to determine just how many more seats they could safely add, and we are about at what can be done on the current site – could be wrong about this, though.
We have a great stadium. Quite honestly, I’d rather see it full at 70K every Saturday than add another 10,000-15,000 seats and see empty seats.
"Mom, just get me a Pepsi! Please, all I want is a Pepsi!" And she wouldn't give it to me! All I wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi, and she wouldn't give it to me! Just a Pepsi!
by The Bird Cult on Aug 31, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
if they added another 10k or 15k seats
they would sell them out in a heartbeat. Especially if Iowa keeps having good teams.
All my good friends at BHGP helpled pick this most awesome name!
TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin
I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! - Jim Zabel
by Bloodpunch's Barbasol on Aug 31, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I do not think they necessarily would.
Also, if/when Iowa entered a downturn, you’re suddenly looking at 20-30K empty seats each week, which is less palatable.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Agreed.
Make the demand seem higher than it is. Iowa would have a problem selling out an 85K-90K stadium with regularity in perpetuity.
"...take it to Hamsterdam."
this
see also, the offseason discussion about kinnick stadium’s future.
hint: it’s not good at all
by sailorjerry on Aug 31, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
36 hours.
Less than 36 hours to go. Yay football!
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Aug 31, 2011 7:52 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I like the idea of a defensive line rotation
Might as well try a bunch of them in a live fire situation and see what you get.
Who the hell is Steven Staggs?
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
"I would have fell to those aphrodisiacs that he was throwing around." ~ Michael Irvin
by Blackheartnopants on Aug 31, 2011 7:56 AM CDT reply actions
Canzeri
I got $20 says Canzeri has at least 40 rushing yds and one good screen pass on saturday. Am i the only one that just hopes no on gets hurt this weekend?
"Frank, do you know what a hero is? Ninety-nine times out of a hundred, he's somebody who's tired enough and cold enough and hungry enough not to give a damn. I don't give a damn. -- Hawkeye"
Nah
I’ll bet you 20 Internet bucks he gets one touch for >10 yards. But yeah, I’m with you… No more injuries is the key for cupcake play. Hopefully the coaching staff learned something from last year about leaving the starters in during garbage time.
by Senator Butthole on Aug 31, 2011 8:35 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
And the win
Not just no injuries. No injuries and the win.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 31, 2011 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions
er... make that two
I mean and not having to block TWO kicks to preserve the win…
Anyone here old enough to remember DB? A real old school baseball coach...
by two_niner_was_old_school on Aug 31, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Our three weapons
are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency…and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope KF…. Our four…no…Amongst our weapons…. Amongst our weaponry…are such elements as fear, surprise…. I’ll come in again.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 31, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nobody expects
the wide receiver end-around!!!!
(Forboding music.)
by DrHenryKillinger on Aug 31, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll take that bet
Canzeri might turn out to be good, but right now he screams YOU TUBE SENSATION!!!!! even more than Sam McDuffie a few years ago. Keep in mind, the level of competition he was playing against in high school was terrible. Expecting much out of him, especially at RB, this season is a bit unfair.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Damn, I'd heard the rumor about Lowery a little over a week ago.
But I didn’t want to be a rumor-monger so I left it alone. I’d been wondering though.
That’s tough. Hopefully he makes a fairly quick recovery and can get on the field yet this year.
Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 31, 2011 8:06 AM CDT reply actions
broken bones are kind of better than sprains or tears.
The ortho docs know how to pin, patch and pad breaks so that lost PT is minimal.
I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan
Yeah... I don't remember what I did, but I remember as a 14 year old....
…my name played in some national competition, and I had video of me running up and down with a club for a left arm because I had something broken in my wrist/hand. Once it was mostly healed, with the right paddng, there was little to no pain.
That was 17 years ago, and I’m sure the padding has improved since then, especially for a Div I football team (although my mom worked for a highly respected sports orthopedic surgeon)
meh
Let's just hope
that Castillo really was the better option and not by default
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
He was consistently above him on the depth chart even before the injury
I don’t Castillo is nearly as bad last year as people are making him out to be (I think people are mostly remembering his freshman year when he was a disaster), and it should also be considered that, Shada aside, Iowa corners tend to improve a lot as they gain experience in the system. Remember how terrible Fletcher was before his senior year?
By most accounts Castillo works really hard, is a smart player (having a dad who is an NFL coach can’t hurt), and has outstanding technique. Lowery probably has a higher ceiling, but I don’t think Castillo is so athletically limited that he’s going to be a massive liability or something.
Yeah, and his first game as a RS Frosh was the UNI debacle, where very few looked good
and UNI had the option of throwing Castillo’s way, or throwing to Spievey’s side of the field (which no sane QB did very often that season), so Greg got picked on A LOT. And then he was hurt for the next four games and didn’t see tons of field time after that due to Prater taking his spot.
Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 31, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Castillo also got quite abused last year
in the EIU game when Prater was serving a suspension
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I'm developing an unquenchable thirst for 2 TE sets.
I see them everywhere. I need them.
Perhaps my best years are gone... but I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Aug 31, 2011 8:30 AM CDT reply actions 5 recs
This
lots of this
He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Aug 31, 2011 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions
can we do three tight end sets?
I like our WR, but if Ray Hamilton and Zach Derby are better than Gimm and/or Meyer, let’s do it.
meh
Let's not get carried away.
Perhaps my best years are gone... but I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Aug 31, 2011 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions
That would be an "exotic"
Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 31, 2011 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions
3 TE set WR reverse
/KoK’d
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
by BoiseHawk on Aug 31, 2011 9:51 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I kinda like this idea.
Three tight ends, bring a flanker in motion, give ‘em the ol’ end-around.
Sincerely,
PC, Jr.
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Aug 31, 2011 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes. this.
More 2-TE and/or H-back, less FB.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
A smart QB can eat a D to DEATH with 2 TE sets.
[see: Manning, Peyton; Brady, Tom]
Perhaps my best years are gone... but I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Aug 31, 2011 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions
I have Madden 11 and haven't even played it
My recent love for 2TE sets has me considering firing up the game so I can run them to my black heart’s content.
Perhaps my best years are gone... but I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Aug 31, 2011 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions
11 or 12?
And yes, I love the 2 TE sets, especially when one is ridiculously athletic. It’s like the computer forgets about them. I had one get to 200 receiving yards a couple days ago.
"...take it to Hamsterdam."
11
Perhaps my best years are gone... but I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Aug 31, 2011 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Manning is more like an offensive coordinator that throws the ball
My understanding is that he doesn’t just call his own plays at the line, he modifies them as needed based on how the D is adjusting so as the game goes on, he’s practically writing a new playbook. Phil Simms once said “Peyton Manning is not playing a position I am familar with”
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
"Offensive coordinator that throws the ball"
Yeah, that’s a great way to say it. The guy’s had troubles winning in the playoffs, but you can’t deny that he has a ridiculous offensive mind.
He does on the field, what everyone else does on video games.
And he does it faster than I ever can on a video game. And 300 lb. men want to hurt him while he’s thinking about what he wants to do.
Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 31, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions
The Colts Defense
had hade trouble in the playoffs is more accurate. I recall a couple shootouts they lost, can’t blame Peyton when they’re racking up 30+ points and losing.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
The year they won was the year Bob got Def Player of the Year.
The times he struggles are when he knows he needs a TD on every drive and a punt is a loss.
(until last year when he was just straight awful 90% of the time)
Perhaps my best years are gone... but I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Aug 31, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Was it?
I thought they won a yr later when he was hurt most of the yr and Indy could not stop the run—at all. Until he came back for the deep playoff run.
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
by BoiseHawk on Aug 31, 2011 11:21 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
When do they decided the DPOY?
I feel like the playoff run is the reason that Sanders won the award, and then received the fat contract.
by The Mexican't on Aug 31, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
BOB won DPOY the year after the Super Bowl
All awards are decided upon before the playoffs. The Super Bowl year was the year he came back from injury and inspired a whole new defense in the playoffs. He won Player of the Year the following year.
by H I McDonnough on Aug 31, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for the research
I was almost right.
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
A ridiculously offensive mind
That’s the working title of my Adam Jacobi biopic
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Aug 31, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep
There are 32 NFL teams will fire their current O-Cordinator the day he retires if he wants their job.
Please note that the internet does not, as of yet, have a sarcasm font.
Makes you wonder if he goes that route, what kind of HC or OC Peyton will make
Although I’ll bet we see him try colleges first before the pros.
Does anyone else think its insane that he continues to play with the neck issues? Its not like he doesn’t have a ring or a shoo-in for HoF status… what else is there to play for, except decline a la Favre?
"Mom, just get me a Pepsi! Please, all I want is a Pepsi!" And she wouldn't give it to me! All I wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi, and she wouldn't give it to me! Just a Pepsi!
by The Bird Cult on Aug 31, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
I think that Peyton is so far above everyone else,
that coaching would just frustrate him a la fake United Way ad on SNL. Then again, he’s turned pretty much every receiver he has into a viable threat.
"...take it to Hamsterdam."
How’d you like to be the qb that played for him? Much like Troy Aikman, I’m not sure he has the temperament to coach those without his work ethic.
I'd much prefer him as an analyst.
He is one of the few ex-players that I wish to see commentating one day.
"...take it to Hamsterdam."
He'd probably be great at it
my fear is that he’d just be frustrated watching other QBs. But yes, I think he’d be able to break down situations real time in a way that would make for fun announcing
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 31, 2011 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Kent Kahl doesn't like that tone, son
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
"I would have fell to those aphrodisiacs that he was throwing around." ~ Michael Irvin
by Blackheartnopants on Aug 31, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
One's in to block, one goes out for a pass?
Which is which?
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
"I would have fell to those aphrodisiacs that he was throwing around." ~ Michael Irvin
by Blackheartnopants on Aug 31, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Also,
Derby makes me feel good about my receding hairline
He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Aug 31, 2011 8:32 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, it's cool if it starts in the front. NOT SO COOL IN THE BACK.
Perhaps my best years are gone... but I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Aug 31, 2011 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Whatever.
Vanity is masterbation.
If the right person finds it attractive, you’ll never have to do “the stranger.”
Wait, that didn’t come out right.
Wait, that’s not what I meant.
Aw, dammit.
Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 31, 2011 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Makes growing a skullet hard if starts in the back.
"Mom, just get me a Pepsi! Please, all I want is a Pepsi!" And she wouldn't give it to me! All I wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi, and she wouldn't give it to me! Just a Pepsi!
by The Bird Cult on Aug 31, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it's everything below the hairline that allows him to pull it off
You might also be smoking hot from the forehead down, so it could work.
Just shave it off, dude
Rock the bald head
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 31, 2011 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Finally bit this bullet this year.
Sigh, I miss you, high school fro.
Or else grow it out
He could still cover those flanking encroachments pretty well if he wanted to. But I think that we’re going to have to all accept that we were spoiled with the recent run of Rick Stanzi’s magnificent head of hair.
Also, Dwight, now Derby…what is it with Iowa City kids and the premature balding? Actually—don’t answer that, I don’t think I want to know.
He should absolutely rock the skullet.
Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 31, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions
He should wear a derby to cover it.
Plus, great self-branding!
Bloggin' at JoePasDoghouse.com
by J.Schnauzer on Aug 31, 2011 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
wait
Wienke as backup punter is a joke right.
He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Aug 31, 2011 8:35 AM CDT reply actions
Nope.
Q. Who do you have behind Eric [Guthrie]? Is it still John?
COACH FERENTZ: It would be John Wienke if we were playing tomorrow, uh-huh.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Wait, whaaaa?
"He lowballed us and said: 'Take it or leave it. If you don't take our offer, you are rolling the dice.' I said: 'Consider them rolled.' " - Jim "Huge Brass Balls" Delaney
by ClaybornSmash on Aug 31, 2011 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
That's code for
we’re really in a bad way when it comes to punters.
I guess Mullins isn’t working out.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
The Aussie isn't cutting it
Wasn’t even invited to camp. Apparently takes way too long to punt.
by Captain n Diet Coker on Aug 31, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions
The not getting invited to camp is simpl because you don't invite a backup punter to camp.
Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 31, 2011 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions
No, he's genuinely not very good
Mechanics are all mess up and he takes too long, which leads to a bunch of blocks. It’s why the recruited another punter this year. I mean Wienke is probably an okay punter (he was all state in high school), but I don’t think he’s even close to D-I quality. There’s no reason for him to be second string with a scholarship punter on the roster.
Oh, I wasn't denying any of what you said.
I just meant that I’ve heard a lot of folks point to his absence from camp, and really there’s just no reason to have a second punter taking up one of the 105 spots.
Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 31, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Well they invited like five kickers
If Mullings was even remotely close to being a viable option I think they’d have probably invited him to push Guthrie. It’s a pretty bad sign.
Yeah, okay. I see your point, and didn't realize about the five.
I knew they had the three place kickers and Big Gus. Whatever, I wasn’t trying to argue that his kicking wasn’t fucked up, I’ve just seen a lot of people make something out of him not being at camp, and didn’t think that was the point to focus on.
Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 31, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I was exaggerating slightly for effect
They only had the three kickers.
Still, given that the starter at punter is an unproven walk-on I would think that Mullins would have been invited if they thought he was even remotely capable of playing.
Got ya. You'll hear no argument from me.
Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 31, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a little of that.
But it’s mostly the fact that his mechanics are (apparently) totally fucked up and not showing any sign of improvement.
And, like Norse said, the writing was on the wall when we added another scholarship punter. I don’t think Iowa would be scouting punters in West Virginia if they were confident that Mullings could be the man next year.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Dude's an athlete
And he can punt, what do you want? I swear, Wienke would get so much more respect if he had a stronger-sounding last name. Would you have any questions about QB3 Brock Thundestrike backing up our punter, other than “Why isn’t Brock Thunderstrike starting at both QB and punter?”
by Notclevr on Aug 31, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's not it
it’s more of a “why the hell is our third string QB the 2nd best punter on the team”. That isn’t normal.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
there is precedent
although he didn’t punt he did handle the kick-offs and he was our starting TE.
If you answered Marv Cook, you would be right.
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by Bloodpunch's Barbasol on Aug 31, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Taken to the next level
Danny White punted for the Cowboys for 2-3 years while starting at QB.
"Sometimes the truth gets in the way of a good story" - KF
by The Bacon Explosion on Aug 31, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't know that
The more you know!
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by Bloodpunch's Barbasol on Sep 1, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions
but..but...but...
punting is winning
P.S. That’s a lot of buts.
We're gonna go America all over their asses!
So, I accept that Mullins indeed is "too slow" at getting punt off . . .
But for the Love of God, HOW?
I watch some rugby on television. Those guys have to kick within seconds of being smashed. To my pea-brain, it would seem that a rugby backround would make one even quicker at drop kicking.
Is it the pads? The snap? Someone give me a good theory here.
by Torbee on Aug 31, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Questions about Derbz from mr. Kimball
I’m going to ask you a bunch of questions, and I want them answered immediately…So is this Derby kid any good? Can he chuck the pig as far as mandenberg? Can he elude defenders? Is he gonna fire the ball into the turf a la christensen? Is he a hothead like drew Tate?
by Senator Butthole on Aug 31, 2011 8:43 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
maybe, farther, probably, unknown, no idea
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
So, are you the elder statesman of bung?
Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 31, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe we can get a Derby-to-Derby connection.
Which would bring back memories of the old Chandler-to-Chandler connection…
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Better than Gumbel to Gumbel
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Aug 31, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Native Iowans as QB1 &QB2..
When has that happened before?
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by Podolak Pimpin' on Aug 31, 2011 12:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He's a member!
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by Kluginator on Aug 31, 2011 9:08 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
You made him look like Nick Lechey (Ms. Simpson's ex) in the after.
Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 31, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Early male pattern balding is a sign of extreme testosterone levels
my hairline started receding in second grade
I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan
by Kluginator on Aug 31, 2011 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
And you impregnated your teacher from across the hall in middle school.
Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 31, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't confuse me with Brandon Wegher
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by Kluginator on Aug 31, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Wegher
who incidentally now looks like Telly Savalas from the neck up and George “The Animal” Steele everywhere else. (Come to think of it, George was a wax-top too, so I guess I’m saying he looks like a skinny George Steele.)
Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 31, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Re: Bernstine
Q. Can you talk about the return game decision with Micah on punts and Jordan Bernstine on kickoff?
COACH FERENTZ: Micah has done a nice job. He’s very dependable catching the football, good judgment. Probably some equation there with the free safety part of the deal. Hinkel was supposed to be at free safety. Was a great punt returner for us. Both former quarterbacks, good judgment. Marvin has done a nice job as well.
Then on the other side, Keenan worked some at that position last year. Jordan is enthusiastic and eager to do it. That’s part of being a good kick returner, too. I’ll single Jordan out. He’s just had an exceptional camp of all the guys that have improved and shown major steps, we just talked about Matt, I’d single Jordan out, too, I think he’s playing at a higher level than he has at any time. We’re excited about that. Hopefully he can help us out on special teams as well.
Intrigued about the prospect of Bernstine at KR. Also, I had no idea Hinkel was supposed to be a free safety.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Aug 31, 2011 9:09 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
More Bernstine
Q. Will Jordan Bernstine be in when you play nickel?
COACH FERENTZ: If we were going nickel, he’d be in there for sure. He might be in there for the start of the game. It’s really good competition right now, really close with all those guys. We got guys double listed at the corner position. With B.J. being out there, that’s affected us a little bit. We’ll try to get the best four guys, five guys on the field. He’s in the conversation certainly.
Q. Is it pretty fluid then for him?
COACH FERENTZ: I think so. I think so. If he’s not starting the game, he’ll be out there playing some.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Is that Ferentz saying that we're not going nickel
ever, ever, ever, ever? Or is there a chance?
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by chitownhawkeye on Aug 31, 2011 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions
We play nickel.
Not as often as most people want us to play nickel, but we do play nickel.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Aug 31, 2011 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
See Insight Bowl
Bernstein made some great plays when he was in
by Captain n Diet Coker on Aug 31, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Absolutely loved watching Pittsburgh Steelers play a 2-4-5.
They are just an amazingly brilliant defense. Where as Lovie Smith sticks with his schemes and insists on trying to make them work, Dick LeBeau is constantly evolving his. They are terrifying when all those guys are healthy.
meh
And Dom Capers with the Pack.
There were multiple times during the playoff run where they had just 1 down lineman. It makes it easy when you have Matthews – a OLB/DE freak hybrid – and Woodson – a CB/S/LB hybrid. But still. 1-4-6 is pretty awesome.
"...take it to Hamsterdam."
That's what I thought
I guess I was just confused by the phrasing of it.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 31, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Really pumped for Hyde as punt returner
Get that dude the ball as much as possible.
That said I fully expect him to fumble and get replaced by Staggs or something by like week four.
Peter King?
Perhaps my best years are gone... but I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Aug 31, 2011 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Per Bloodpunch, Iowa could maybe sorta one day add permanent lights to Kinnick.
Also, he’s looking into painting the water tower.
He’s actually said that he’s in favor of that. He also has absolutely nothing to do with the decision, since the water tower belongs to the hospital.
I'm sure the Athletic Dept. paying for it
and maybe chipping in a little bit to buy a new x-ray machine will help.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
by Flakbait on Aug 31, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Make that a new MRI machine and we have a deal.
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by BStylin Hawkye on Aug 31, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
How about a new hospital wing?
A la Children’s Wing: Sponsored by BHGP and the Athletic Department of Iowa.
by EnergizerHawk on Aug 31, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Where's LS Casey Kreiter on the list, Ross?
Central of DeWitt shout-out
by GaryDolphinSafeTuna on Aug 31, 2011 1:12 PM CDT reply actions
I also omitted the holder.
That’s the sort of shoddy blogging you get from me, sadly.
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