2011 Big Ten Football Preview: Who Will Win The Floyd Of Rosedale Division?
Because Legends and Leaders is (still) stupid and because East and West is mildly incoherent thanks to the Wisconsin-Michigan Paradox (and because jNW and Illinois are also split, I guess), but divisions still need names, dammit. Calling it The Floyd of Rosedale division doesn't mean a damn thing for the 2/3 of the teams in the division, but whatever. In any event, the season is just days away, which means it's time for us to put a marker down on who's going to win things. So without further ado, the contenders:
IOWA
Pros: Go Iowa Awesome! Marcus Coker. The history of under the radar Iowa teams in the KF Era.
Cons: Where's the defensive line? And the safeties? Is that quarterback actually good?
MICHIGAN
Pros: GERG-free since January 2011! Denard, Denard, more Denard.
Cons: How does Denard work in MANBALL? Desperately seeking a defense.
MICHIGAN STATE
Pros: Kirk Cousins' eloquent arm. The Edwin Baker and Larry Caper Show. Defensive line goin' beast mode.
Cons: We are not the 2011 version of 2010 Iowa! Offensive linemen need nametags.
MINNESOTA
Pros: Brewster B-Gone. MarQueis Gray's magic feet. Troy Stoudemire and the golden kickoff return.
Cons: Still Minnesota. MarQueis Gray's misfiring armcannon. De... fense?
NEBRASKA
Pros: Crick cracks backs, is no crock. T-Magic. RAAAAAGE.
Cons: T-Magic out of service. Welcome to the Big Ten from the Delanybot 9000! RAAAAAGE.
NORTHWESTERN
Pros: Black Purple Magick. #Persa4Heisman. Seriously, Evil Wizgerald: one lucky bastard or tactical genius.
Cons: Persa Strong... not so strong? What's a running game? What's a defense?
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I want to pick someone else
but I just couldn’t stand seeing Nebraska win it. After what we did to Sparty last year it is hard to respect them and IMO Michigan is at least 1 year away. That leaves us Minny and jNW. I guess I’ll be a homer.
He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Aug 30, 2011 11:08 AM CDT reply actions
Yeah, and I didn't realize they lost Treadwell.
I was somewhat pro-Sparty until I saw that. Losing him plus a beast of a schedule? Uh-uh.
"Oh, glorious cheeseburger, we bow to thee. The secrets of the Universe are between the buns."
by Bucketochicken on Aug 30, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I have no confidence in Sparty on any level.
I think they’ll be worse off this year then last and I thought they were about the 5th best team in the league last year.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Aug 30, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
The loss of Greg Jones cannot say enough about how that defense is going to get bent over this year.
Skol!
by DM_Purp on Aug 30, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm stunned more people aren't talking about how important his absence will be.
In addition to being the best player on that side of the ball he served as the defensive quarterback. His absence will account for at least 2 losses.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Aug 31, 2011 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I mentioned this on OTE
and got absolutely blasted by MSU fans with how the D-line will be so good LB’s will not even be required. That man blanketed the field from flat to flat with no help.
"I don't believe in quotes" - Karl Klug
D-line will be so good LB’s will not even be required
Please tell me you told them to see what happened to Iowa last year when a very good D-line was backed up by a LB corps decimated by injury and laden with “potential”. It doesn’t work out very well.
No, no, no NO!
They’re totally different from Iowa 2010! Don’t you get it? Nevermind that the number of players and the very positions they have to replace are almost identical to Iowa last year and the fact that their strengths – senior QB, returning talent at the skill positions and d-line – sound awfully familiar, there is NO WAY you can compare 2011 MSU with 2010 Iowa. Because, you see, MSU is totes back to being elite.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Bingo
thats the one. I was a little upset at a green homer when he listed us as an automatic win. I have no idea how anyone could say we are an automatic win. When is the last time someone beat us by more than a TD or had us beat early in a game. Iowa is never an automatic and for it to come from Michigan State fans of all people; drove me up the wall. 37-6 happened no matter how hard you try to forget. WTF, when you get drilled that badly by anyone you know you are overrated and it happened not once, but twice.
"I don't believe in quotes" - Karl Klug
Sparty fans on OTE
are as bad as the OSU fans. Just without the history of recent achievement.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
sparty is like my ex wife
seriously fucks up in the clutch
Long Live the Pellican Whore - like FOREVER
by OhioHawk on Aug 30, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
For some reason I'd never just looked at the teams in the division
and thought about who would win it. I can’t believe I’m typing this, but I think it’s actually going to be NU…and I’m talking about Northwestern (because it’s way more important to me that Nebraska fans have to deal with UN-L). Now I just need to clean this vomit off of my keyboard.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
That cursed thing has been banished from this home.
And it wasn’t her shirt, she borrowed it on a sleepover!
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Aug 30, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
you are wrong
This is where I list the reasons that you are wrong. I have none, I don’t feel like doing research or making a rational argument. You are just wrong.
He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Aug 30, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
What's worse
is I used the same “logic” you’ve used to refute my post in support of Illinois winning the East this season over on OTE. Yes, the rivalry game that could end up being the inaugural BT Championship could be a replay of the Land of Lincoln Monopoly Piece Trophy Game.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Aug 30, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
That would be just great
the SEC will never stop laughing at us.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 30, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you implying they had already?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Aug 31, 2011 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions
*hangs head*
No. Sadly I’m not.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 31, 2011 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Gorge rising...
But you very well might be right. Ew.
"Oh, glorious cheeseburger, we bow to thee. The secrets of the Universe are between the buns."
by Bucketochicken on Aug 30, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
In the bizzaro universe we inhabit, Persa will play one game this year, against Iowa, and rip his OTHER achilles on the last play of the game. jNW won’t win the FOR division.
by txhawkeye on Aug 30, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
McCann't
Chicago’s Big Ten Back-stabber.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 30, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Ugh. I homer-picked.
This division is the way tossy-uppy. The Goophers are the only team that simply has no chance whatsoever. Fairly easy arguments could be made for any of the others to win it, although I think whoever wins will have at least 2 losses and it might come down to a who-beat-who dogpile.
"Oh, glorious cheeseburger, we bow to thee. The secrets of the Universe are between the buns."
by Bucketochicken on Aug 30, 2011 11:20 AM CDT reply actions
I hate myself, but I just had to vote Nebraska
I think jNW would be a good pick if I was convinced Persa was 100 percent himself. But I don’t think he is.
I’d pick Iowa if I was more confident in the D-Line, but the guys were relying on to be good this year, were obviously not good enough to spell winded, exhausted guys last year. That’s a huge worry.
I’d pick MSU, but when you have a team capable of just getting the living ass kicked out of it TWICE by ranked teams last year, there is little cofidence.
Michigan is too new, too many moving parts and square pegs for round holes.
Minny is minny.
That leaves Nebraska, notwithstanding an absolutely brutal schedule.
But really, this division is wide open and ripe for the plucking if Iowa can capture some of its old magic from ’08 and ’09.
Yep, Persa's explodey Achilles is what kept me from picking them.
They’re still scary though, the smug fuckers.
"Oh, glorious cheeseburger, we bow to thee. The secrets of the Universe are between the buns."
by Bucketochicken on Aug 30, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Two loss (B1G schedule) team wins the division
It will come down to tiebreakers.
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Aug 30, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
That seems to be the general consensus.
With Iowa-Nebraska being even more important than either fanbase could have imagined this year. It’s certainly the way I think it shakes out, but I hope that Iowa has locked up the division by Black Friday.
by The Mexican't on Aug 30, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
So far, that poll is amazingly unbiased, IMHO
"Mom, just get me a Pepsi! Please, all I want is a Pepsi!" And she wouldn't give it to me! All I wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi, and she wouldn't give it to me! Just a Pepsi!
Sadly, I think it'll be Nebraska
But man, our division is stacked this year. I think all but Minnesota go to bowls, and all of those 5 have the potential to win the division (although some are more likely than others).
Yeah, what's amazing is had they just gone with a pure geographic split of the league
the Iowa/Wisconsin/Nebraska/Northwestern split would have been far more intimidating than any combination the other division could come up with in the immediate future.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Aug 30, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Stacked with questions maybe
although Nebby’s are mostly related to their schedule. It’s going to be a tough place to play going forward, that’s for sure.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
I don’t know if I’d say stacked. Just really even. I’d probably rate every team but Minnesota between 15-35 in the nation.
by DJK's bongwater on Aug 30, 2011 11:59 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Biased because
Fuck you. We’re Iowa. Feels good to say it with some swagger
"I don't believe in quotes" - Karl Klug
"Is this heaven?"
“Fuck you, we’re Iowa.”
I can ride my bike with no handlebars...
by hkobb7 on Aug 30, 2011 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Minnesota is beating Michigan?
U MAD, BIG BLUE?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Aug 30, 2011 12:16 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I think, based on the results of this poll
that a new Nebraska shit-talking thread is in order.
by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Aug 30, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Nebby Trolls are just called Bugeaters.
Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 31, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm so very proud of everyone for not voting for Michigan.
You all make my heart weep with happiness.
by Carfino'sWay on Aug 30, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Vint would have voted for Michibraska if he could have.
Now let's go surprise Harry Heth!
by ReadingRambler on Aug 30, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
1997'd?
Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 31, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Triple threat Ross...
Three nice posts today.
Also, I just caught the end of the Kyle Schlicker (I’m an engineer…spelling = hard, math = easy) interview on Jim Rome.
Very good I thought….seriously, our ex-Iowa kicker is fucking training Navy SEALs.
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
Just heard that too
For the record I think Jim Rome’s radio show is fucking unlistenable. I could listen to Cowherd spew asinine bullshit into a microphone for an hour before listening to 10 minutes of Rome.
Having said that, the interview was great because Rome just asked questions and then shut his fucking mouth while Kyle talked for the majority of the time. You know, like a real interview. Very interesting stuff, though.
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Aug 30, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I really don't like the Herd--at all
I can have Rome on, and a few times will get a good laugh, but mostly it is just noise when I don’t feel like hooking the ipod up in the car. His interviews are generally the best part, b/c he usually does shut up and let people talk—especially well spoken individuals. When they go on and on and on about something stupid I have to turn it
Dan Patrick, OTOH, I really like much better than either of the others. It is just a more relaxed and fun show. I’ll still disagree with him, but he is never over the top. I also like how the other staff is involved, Dan still has a ego, but the show is not just about him.
My take anyways.
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
Colin Cowherd is the Devil's own spooge.
Rome is just a dickhead, and occasionally a bit funny.
Rome>Cowherd
/Right now, I seriously feel like if I mowed Cowherd down with an automobile, I wouldn’t feel guilty. I think Cowherd is an inept flight attendant on the Little Wayne Plane.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 30, 2011 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
All of a sudden
that t-shirt he sold me 6 years ago is that much more badass…except it just isn’t a badass shirt.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Aug 31, 2011 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions
I am a homer and I don't care
I voted for Iowa.
I am not afraid for our D-line. Yes, they are unproven but I have this feeling that they are going to be better than last year. These guys have a chip on their shoulder, hearing how the D-line faded in the night last year. They will grow together quickly and be a bright spot. The LB corp will be stronger and faster than last year with Morris leading them and with veterns Prater and Hyde patrolling the secondary, we will be back to our ball hawking ways.
I beieve the hype about JV and think he will turn some heads in the BIG. I am excited about our running game as I think our RB’s will be fine behind our O-line. I will not say the name of the starter to protect him from AIRBHG.
I believe that JV will have some great targets to throw too as McNutt goes 1st team all BIG, Herman is going to be the next Iowa TE going to the pros and the “polish hat” has a good year with over 20 receptions. Davis will have a good year finally and will show everyone what they have been waiting to see from him.
Special teams is the only question in my mind, and barring any complete messes, we will survive.
As others have said, this schedule is “ripe for the picking”. I am not really afriad of any team on our schedule as we have a chance to win every game.
jNW is at Kinnick in a prime time game and the Hawks will be flying high for that game and will come out on top. PSU is still wondering how to fix their O-line and their defense is suspect. MSU has to return to Kinnick and Iowa doesn’t lose to MSU at home. Michigan is once again learning a new scheme for Offense and Defense, Iowa will exploit the learning curve. Minnesota used trickery to beat us last year at the bank, this time around, Iowa will be ready for them and welcome Floyd back home. KF will have the team so ready for Neb, much like he has the team ready for a bowl game. Iowa will avenge the losses they had in the early part of KF’s coaching career. Purdon’t is reeling right now with injuries and Iowa will cause some more by beating them in W. Lafayette. Indiana, well lets just call them what they are, a basketball school. Iowa wins its Home Coming game on the 22nd of Oct. the OOC schedule doesn’t worry me too much, and we should win all of those games.
So that is why I picked Iowa. This is the time to make some noise in the BIG and I think this Iowa team can do it.
Go Hawks!
All my good friends at BHGP helpled pick this most awesome name!
TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin
I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! - Jim Zabel
by Bloodpunch's Barbasol on Aug 30, 2011 12:27 PM CDT reply actions
Pass that Kool-Aid, please
"Mom, just get me a Pepsi! Please, all I want is a Pepsi!" And she wouldn't give it to me! All I wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi, and she wouldn't give it to me! Just a Pepsi!
by The Bird Cult on Aug 30, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Passes the kool-aid
wait wait, I forgot that kook aid is from Jonestown.
wheew
Here drink this one.
All my good friends at BHGP helpled pick this most awesome name!
TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin
I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! - Jim Zabel
by Bloodpunch's Barbasol on Aug 30, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't BO-GART that kool-aid
my friend.
Pass it over to meeeeeee-eeeeeeeeeeee.
Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 30, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I do believe that my comment is written better than a HS student.
not much better, but better.
All my good friends at BHGP helpled pick this most awesome name!
TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin
I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! - Jim Zabel
by Bloodpunch's Barbasol on Aug 30, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Were you bored when you wrote it?
That can make all the difference.
Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 30, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
there are many factors that go into being bored
a stud is a two by four board.
I am a stud.
All my good friends at BHGP helpled pick this most awesome name!
TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin
I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! - Jim Zabel
by Bloodpunch's Barbasol on Aug 30, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
So you do know you have us going undefeated, right?
More like Purple Drank than Kool-Aid, but I’m swiggin’ my friend. Swiggin’ with Swagger.
and your point?
I already admitted to being a homer what more do you want from me???
Oh the voices in my head wont stop!
All my good friends at BHGP helpled pick this most awesome name!
TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin
I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! - Jim Zabel
by Bloodpunch's Barbasol on Aug 30, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Its OK to have voices in your head
Its when they start arguing with each other that the problems start.
"Mom, just get me a Pepsi! Please, all I want is a Pepsi!" And she wouldn't give it to me! All I wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi, and she wouldn't give it to me! Just a Pepsi!
by The Bird Cult on Aug 30, 2011 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I voted Iowa, here's why:
IOWA BIG TEN SCHEDULE
@ Penn State
vs. Northwestern
vs. Indiana
@ Minnesota
vs. Michigan
vs. Michigan State
@ Purdue
@ Nebraska
NEBRASKA BIG TEN SCHEDULE
@ Wisconsin
vs. Ohio State
@ Minnesota
vs. Michigan State
vs. Northwestern
@ Penn State
@ Michigan
vs. Iowa
Jack Trice Stadium - Easily one of the Top 10 Stadiums in Central Iowa
by Not Marv Cook on Aug 30, 2011 12:34 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Thats an old pic...
Cuase its not from last year!
So I tried the Barbasol and Rotel dip and I was very dissapointed!
Floyd of Rosedale division is ok
I’d rather call us the “Heroes Division”, which makes OSU and PSU in the “Villains Division”.
by Wolvie on Aug 30, 2011 12:51 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
The Ne'er-Do-Wells Division.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I like these names
But don’t forget to add Wisc to the villains list.
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
by BoiseHawk on Aug 30, 2011 1:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
We have forgotten our greatest enemy. Our most hated enemy.

This division is truly an Axis of Evil.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Aug 30, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
Still my favorite BHGP photoshop.
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Aug 30, 2011 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, just because I didn't mention Wisc doesn't mean they're not there
All 6 members of the “Villians” or “Evildoers” division is in our Rogue’s Gallery.
Then again, we all count the other 5 teams in our little “Hall Of Justice” on our Rogue’s Gallery as well. We’re a dysfunctional set of Heroes.
It is entirely possible Neb is the best team
But Iowa/MSU wins the division. The Neb schedule is tough.
I also could see a 2 loss Neb team that does not go to the B1G championship getting a BCS at large bid over a 2 loss Iowa/MSU team the were to lose to a Wisc/tO$U team in. The championship.
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
by BoiseHawk on Aug 30, 2011 1:21 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
What?!
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 30, 2011 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
This is an excerpt from an email conversation I had with a Nebraska fan yesterday.
There used to be a time when we (Nebraska fans) would look at the schedule and want to play only the best teams in the land because we would show up and beat their pants off on national television. Yeah, it hasn’t been that way since Black Friday, 2001. Nebraska fans won’t admit it but, now we probably pray for every team to have a "down year" so that we can win the "big one" and get back to the elite. You have to win something before you can proclaim that you’re back. Nobody remembers who won the Gator Bowl 2 years ago but, the Rose Bowl is saying something.
I’m withholding his identity lest some of the Nebraska fans that stop by see this and want to hunt him down with their torches and pitchforks.
Since this has been referred to as a down year for the BigTen it looks like the current landscape could be exactly what UNL fans have been hoping for . However, I think there will be too much for UNL to overcome.
BTW, I voted for Iowa b/c I abhor everyone else in the division. Except for MSU, I just feel sorry for them and I like the color green.
Why would we hunt him down?
He’s right. We’re not “back”, until it’s no longer a question if we’re back.
I think most fans…in “fan mode”…would want to watch their team (in my case, the Huskers) play the best. If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. It makes for much better viewing than blowouts over Directional FCS U.
Then most fans…in “realistic mode”…understand that wins and revenue matter most, so you play the scrubs. And those big teams you do play, you hope to have a down year in order to give your team a better shot at getting by them.
I think she meant the non-rational ones
The ones that every fanbase has, but for which Nebraska seems to get stuck with the perception as having the greatest percentage/most vocal.
There are no rational human Nebraska fans.
I read that in Socratotle or whatever.
Now let's go surprise Harry Heth!
by ReadingRambler on Aug 30, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
...allowing for rational non-human Nebraska fans?
My father was an alien, but that’s because he came from Ireland. He was still human.
The Irish aren't humans!
Now let's go surprise Harry Heth!
by ReadingRambler on Aug 30, 2011 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I will zap you with my ray gun Rambler
Please note that the internet does not, as of yet, have a sarcasm font.
by benvious on Aug 31, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
In that excerpt take out "their pants" and it seems closer to a Nebraska fan.
(on a side note that is directly related to this) It actually sounds like a well-minded fan and big props for saying this. I know, it doesn’t seem like that big of a deal, but it seems to be pretty rare with the Nebraska fans I’ve run into.
Skol!
That's why I posted it.
I wanted to show they do exist. I’m so lucky to have found him.
by Carfino'sWay on Aug 30, 2011 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Is this the one you were worried you overstepped with?
Sounds like you did just fine. I live in fear that the Omaha branch of my family will turn out to be the non-logical ones.
BTW, there are fake rhinestones on my big toes. I didn’t realize it till my daughter pointed it out. Yay, for BLINGY black & gold toes!
The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.
by HawkeyeGirleye on Aug 31, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, he is the only UNL fan I really know.
I haven’t ever had a conversation with him here he has been unreasonable. This is what he said about the Hawks. I think it pretty well sums things up.
You lost a lot of studs this past year, especially on D. You’re breaking in a new QB but, you have a stud tailback, cornerback, receiver, and middle linebacker. That’s about all I know about the ‘Hawks. The division should be tough with a lot of good QB’s this year. It should be interesting…
I have those too. The guy was very surprised that I wanted black for some reason.
by Carfino'sWay on Aug 31, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I just don't understand how
Michigan gets so much love. Pundits actually predict they will go from ultimate suckage that was 2010 to a top 20 team in 2012. What am I not seeing?
I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan
They have had really good recruiting classes
Brady Hoke seems to be the real deal.
They’re Michigan, so as long as they win 8 games, they’ll make the top 20. Because they’re Michigan.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
by Flakbait on Aug 30, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
at least its not nd
They make the top 15 with 7 wins
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
by BoiseHawk on Aug 30, 2011 3:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Hoke hasn't coached a single game at Michigan.
Let’s let him get a game or four under his belt before he is deemed “the real deal.” What does that even mean in this case?
by Carfino'sWay on Aug 30, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
He's a Meatchicken Man.
Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 31, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Hoke begins his HC career witha 47-50 career record
that does not shout “real deal” to me. Now I know Kirk Ferentz came to Iowa with a similarly mediocre record but nobody was predicting that Iowa would be a top ten team back then either.
I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan
meant "HC at Michigan career"
I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan
Ferentz also hadn't done the turn around Hoke did at SDSU or Ball State
Really, that SDSU stint a pretty impressive bit of coaching at from 4-8 in year one to 9-4 after no winning seasons as a program since 1998.
Add to that the Ball State job and the fact that he had them to a winning record in year 5 and off to a 12-0 start in year 6 (Ball Freaking State!!) and I don’t think you can really compare his record to what Ferentz had done at Maine.
Packer, it could easily be argued
that the SDSU turn around was as much to do with schedule as it was to do with team improvement. They beat two teams with winning records (Airforce and Navy) while the rest came against 5-6 McNichol St; 2-10 New Mex St; 4-8 Utah St; 1-11 New Mex; 3-9 Wyoming; 3-9 Col St; and 2-11 UNLV. He may turn out to be the second coming of Bo Schembechler but he has done little to date to give evidence that he will be.
I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan
As opposed to going 4-8 against a very similar schedule the year before
It’s not like he went from a tough schedule to an easy schedule. If you play the same caliber of opposition and more than double your win total I think it’s more than just luck or a fluke. Similarly at Ball State, the last 2 years weren’t the result of an easier schedule than previously. His teams just got better, resulting in more wins against similar quality opponents.
Thank you! Please someone explain this.
And it has nothing to do with irrational hatred of Michigan. I honestly don’t get it.
by Carfino'sWay on Aug 30, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Iowa.
Michigan: You can’t win with the worst defense in the conference. Even with a new coach.
Michigan State: Name a game they won that gives them credibility in which Wisconsin did not completely forget to play in last year. None. (Don’t forget 37-6, 49-7)
Minnesota: Can’t win the B1G when you don’t have Floyd.
Northwestern: They have Dan Persa. But it’s still just Northwestern.
Nebraska: There is no way you can beat Wisconsin, Ohio State, Penn State and Iowa in the same season. No team has done it, no team ever will. End o’ story.
Betcha can't handle this 4-3 cover 2, mofos!
I'm not saying I disagree but
in 1997, Michigan beat Wisconsin, Ohio State, Penn State and Iowa in the same season. Just saying
I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan
Yes
And a primarily defensive player won the Heisman (and the Camp, Bednarik, Nagurski, and Thorpe). BUT, they did not win the coaches poll. UNL did that.
Also,
Clearly Woodson as Heisman winner means the world was crazy that year, therefore it doesn’t matter that they beat WI, UI, PSU, and OSU in one year. Cats and dogs were cuddling and unicorns trod the Earth.
And struggled to beat Wash State.
Albeit, a decent Wash State.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 30, 2011 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
They don't have to win all 4
3 of 4 from that list and they are looking good. Especially if one of those 3 wins is against Iowa.
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
Don't know who is going to win it
but it won’t be Nebraska. They, I believe, will be the football story of the year for disappointment.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
If jNW wins someone will take Wizgerald off of the BIG's hands
I mean, seriously. If jNW wins the division, and subsequently pulls off the upset in the CC game, someone is going to throw sufficient cash at Wiz that he’ll leave jNW. Think about it… stay at jNW and be a spoiler, or take a shot at a place with more tradition and easier to recruit to/retain students?
"Mom, just get me a Pepsi! Please, all I want is a Pepsi!" And she wouldn't give it to me! All I wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi, and she wouldn't give it to me! Just a Pepsi!
by The Bird Cult on Aug 30, 2011 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not buying Nebraska either
They can get up for and win one or two big games but I don’t think they will be consistently good, or healthy in skill positions.
FOUR. THREE. COVER. TWO.
I am watching Vandy
on the Ferentz show
I feel better already
Long Live the Pellican Whore - like FOREVER
I was thinking the same thing
This poll is obviously representative of the average college football fan’s predictions, and shows no bias whatsoever.
"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull." - W.C. Fields
Clearly.
I won’t mention my irrational Nebraska um….other team vote, then.

I can ride my bike with no handlebars...
I voted the Hawks,
because I can’t stomach picking Nebby, jNW, or the MSU Spenitentiarians. And I don’t think either of the U of M’s should win it, although it sure seems like people love that Brady Hoke lately.
At this point, why not the Hawks. Where is Stoops to challenge our swagger? I WANT HOLYFIELD!
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
This is the same breakdown I see.
The Little Brown Jug game will be for 5th place. The top 4 all have intriguing pros and glaring cons. Four hard to differentiate teams, all with a shot, and one of them is Iowa.
So yeah, I voted Iowa, too. It’s not just us homers, though. Herbstreit predicted an Iowa/OSU ccg. Of course, he also predicted Iowa as a top 5 team in 2010.

























