Blogpoll, Week Zero
by Patrick Vint on Aug 28, 2011 10:39 PM CDT
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Black Heart Gold Pants Ballot - Week 1
| Rank | Team | Delta |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Alabama Crimson Tide | -- |
| 2 | Virginia Tech Hokies | -- |
| 3 | Oklahoma Sooners | -- |
| 4 | Oregon Ducks | -- |
| 5 | Florida St. Seminoles | -- |
| 6 | LSU Tigers | -- |
| 7 | Boise St. Broncos | -- |
| 8 | Michigan St. Spartans | -- |
| 9 | Stanford Cardinal | -- |
| 10 | Notre Dame Fighting Irish | -- |
| 11 | Wisconsin Badgers | -- |
| 12 | Arkansas Razorbacks | -- |
| 13 | Florida Gators | -- |
| 14 | TCU Horned Frogs | -- |
| 15 | Georgia Bulldogs | -- |
| 16 | Missouri Tigers | -- |
| 17 | Nebraska Cornhuskers | -- |
| 18 | South Carolina Gamecocks | -- |
| 19 | Texas A&M Aggies | -- |
| 20 | Oklahoma St. Cowboys | -- |
| 21 | Houston Cougars | -- |
| 22 | USC Trojans | -- |
| 23 | Michigan Wolverines | -- |
| 24 | Ohio St. Buckeyes | -- |
| 25 | Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets | -- |
SB Nation BlogPoll College Football Top 25 Rankings "
This is the part of the poll where I'm supposed to complain about the worthlessness of preseason polls, how their outsized significance alters the landscape of the entire season. And I'd be right to say that.
But I say that every year. Instead of regurgitating that trope, how's about we do a little speculating?
I have Alabama first, mostly because nobody is better on one side of the ball than the Crimson Tide is on defense. Saban returns three projected first-round draft picks in the secondary alone, and Hightower and Upshaw rushing the passer should ensure they won't have to wait long for the ball to be delivered.
Virginia Tech at #2 might be a reach, but VT coaches have been raving about Logan Thomas at quarterback, he has three experienced receivers to target and a big, senior-laden line. The defensive line is young, but otherwise VT's defense is typically loaded. Most importantly, they don't play Florida State and have exactly one potentially tricky road game (at Georgia Tech).
It could be a bad year for Boise. The Mountain West, now without Utah and BYU, carries about as much computer poll weight as the 2010 WAC. More importantly, the SEC remains the SEC -- if anyone gets out of the SEC West with one loss, they should be playing for a championship -- and, at least on paper, the ACC and Pac-12 have built-in elimination games. If Virginia Tech or Florida State runs the table in their conference, they would likely make it to the mythical national championship game. Ditto that for the champion of the Pac-12 North, likely the winner of Stanford and Oregon. Throw in the possibility of Oklahoma going undefeated and a lot of dominoes have to fall for Boise State to make it. Of course, if they did make an improbable title run, Boise would probably just ask the Mountain West conference commissioner to move the game to Boise anyway.
Michigan State in the top 10 is insane, I know, but MSU has the best returning Big Ten quarterback who actually ties his shoelaces, the best set of skill position players, and 13 starters from a team that went 11-1 in 2010. With the rest of the Big Ten looking a bit down this season, a couple more good breaks could get Sparty to Pasadena.
The rest of this is a crapshoot. I trust Will Muschamp's ability at Florida based on virtually no evidence whatsoever. I dropped Oklahoma State for losing Dana Holgorsen and Ohio State for losing Jim Tressel, and probably docked both too many points. I think far too little time has been spent discussing the fact that Nebraska has to adjust from having 20 years of institutional knowledge of its conference opponents to having none. I think far too much attention has been paid to the Michigan offensive philosophy and its effect on Denard Robinson. And Lane Kiffin is in there just to be the prettiest girl at the ball.
As always, this goes in the trash as soon as we get the first kick Thursday. The Blogpoll is back, y'all.
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This is where I'm not going to say
that teams should not receive rankings boosts based on ease-of-schedule because that has no actual bearing on how good they are.
Instead, I’ll say that it’s a weird year. I keep thinking to myself, who do we know is going to be good? Alabama, Oklahoma, probably LSU, I think Ohio St. Would it surprise you if anyone else ended the season with 5 losses? Especially if you made VT and FSU play real schedules.
I liken this year’s college football scene to fantasy baseball closers at the beginning of the year. Usually there are a few “can’t miss” closers. At the beginning of the year what MLB closer could you look at and say “There is no way that if he stays healthy he’ll give up his job at all this year?”
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Agreed
After you get past the best in each conference, it seems like it’s going to be a crap shoot. As much as I hate to say it, I think Wisconsin will take the B1G, but if MSU gets on a roll, they’ll be fine (but I think they will find a way to lose at least one game like last year). But moreso than years past, this feels like a very toss up type of year and we’ll have to wait until the conference games to really see some teams.
The easy answer we don't know who's going to be good
Right now we’re just debating math. Let’s at least see if we can get some empirical evidence before we try to make it science
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 29, 2011 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Michigan State
Iowa was a better team than MichiganState last year and Iowa will be a better team than Michigan State this year.
Jack Trice Stadium - Easily one of the Top 10 Stadiums in Central Iowa
by Not Marv Cook on Aug 28, 2011 11:23 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
The first is true
The second is far from proven.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Aug 28, 2011 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Also unproven is MSU O-line.
I know this is the only weak unit on paper but it can make a league of difference. Does anyone care to remember our 2007 O-line? I thought not. That being said our D-line could be worse than their opposing unit so come November that game could be hairy.
Yeah, but MSU is now better than Iowa at running the Jailbreak.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 29, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Suspenders. No.1. All year. Every year.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
"I would have fell to those aphrodisiacs that he was throwing around." ~ Michael Irvin
by Blackheartnopants on Aug 28, 2011 11:47 PM CDT reply actions
You don't mean FAU, I hope??
"I've never seen a supernova, but if it's anything like my old Chevy Nova it'll light up the night sky." - Philip J. Fry
by HawkOnRails on Aug 28, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
After the NCAA gets done, that may be da only U in Florida
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
"I would have fell to those aphrodisiacs that he was throwing around." ~ Michael Irvin
by Blackheartnopants on Aug 28, 2011 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions
At least they will be lead by the creator
"If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be research." - Albert Einstein
"Consider them rolled." - Jim Delany
by 6 seconds of hell on Aug 29, 2011 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions
This is definitely not 2009
There is no Texas v ’Bama/Florida preseason mindset.
The SEC still has an inside track obviously, and at this point I have no complaints about that. The other side of the MNC will hopefully be EARNED by a well tested conference champion. On general premise, I disagree with SOS as a measure of team quality. However, under the present system it appears unavoidable.
As far as actual on the field thoughts:
- Va Tech will screw it up. They always do.
- FSU is ahead of schedule. I think it costs them a game somewhere.
- Wisc with 1 loss might have a shot at getting in the MNC game. This bothers me.
- SEC will beat Oregon and Boise. I’m glad they’ll lose, just wish it wasn’t to the SEC.
- I read your reasoning for MSU, I just don’t buy it. I mean their sparty. Does SPARTY NO! mean nothing to you?
- The continuation of the spread offense makes comparing a lot of these teams tough for me. It’s part of why I love CFB, but it makes prognosis difficult.
"If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be research." - Albert Einstein
"Consider them rolled." - Jim Delany
by 6 seconds of hell on Aug 28, 2011 11:59 PM CDT reply actions
Looking at this list
reminds me that there will be at least one “Black Saturday” when one lead dog and a few contenders go down, blowing the whole MNC race to bits.
I love college football.
Poll seems about right.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
"I would have fell to those aphrodisiacs that he was throwing around." ~ Michael Irvin
by Blackheartnopants on Aug 29, 2011 12:11 AM CDT reply actions
My Question?
What does Virginia Tech have on you guys? first drafting them 2nd, then putting them 2nd in your poll? sounds like blackmail
I dont know about the rest of the country, but the Big ten seems like a crap shoot to me. For one, its a 10 deep conference this year with only Purdue and Minny looking really bad. Even Indiana has me worried.
For another all of the top teams have flaws. I think this first title game will be Wisconsin vs Nebraska, with Wisconsin winning pretty easily.
as for all teams. i see a Boise State vs Oregon National Title game. Boise State just has to get through a rebuilding TCU team and a few “meh” teams such as Air Force and San Diego State. I dont think Georgia is good enough to win this game, but if they do il be a Georgia fan for the whole year long as they dont play Iowa.
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Aug 29, 2011 1:40 AM CDT reply actions
Ah, but Wisky v. Nebby would be a rematch.
Any advantage for either side?
Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 29, 2011 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I was wondering if someone would make a "VT?" comment.
I usually root for Boise, but the MWC is a step up from the WAC. Plus, they still play Nevada, and they play Tulsa.
I could see Boise dropping a game or two this year.
Oregon visits Stanford. That game will help cull the MNC contenders. I think any SEC one-loss (or better) team makes it. OU might stay in with one loss.
Big Ten? As long as Nebby doesn’t go undefeated (or really highly ranked with one loss), I could tolerate many a scenario. Is it fair to say that any OSU sanctions probably won’t affect 2011?
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 29, 2011 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Tech will do what they always do
Drop an inexplicable non-conference game to a team that has no business being in the same city, let alone field, as Tech, lose to one bad ACC team and otherwise run the schedule to the ACC title game. If they win the ACC title, they go to a BCS bowl, where they are contractually obligated to lose. If they lose the ACC title, they will go to some mid-tier bowl game where they will destroy to hopelessly out-matched #5 SEC team, thus giving making sure VT is in the preseason Top 10 next year, where they will repeat this process. For evidence, see EVERY YEAR FOR THE PAST DECADE.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Aug 30, 2011 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You know McGloin could throw for 400 yards against Michigan's defense, right?
Meanwhile, could Denard throw for 400 yards against Michigan’s defense? Probably not.
Now let's go surprise Harry Heth!
Michigans defense has to be better this year
if for no other reason than it couldn’t get worse.
I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan
by Kluginator on Aug 29, 2011 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Never say never
I’m probably wrong, but I can see WMU knocking off Michigan this week.
"Mom, just get me a Pepsi! Please, all I want is a Pepsi!" And she wouldn't give it to me! All I wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi, and she wouldn't give it to me! Just a Pepsi!
by The Bird Cult on Aug 29, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Michigan D should be better,
but that might be “gives up 40 or 50 to Illinois” better.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 29, 2011 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
This just made my day...
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
LSU still at 6?
Jefferson’s replacement is 5-4 as a starter, and they draw Oregon this week. The Hat’s magic has to run out eventually, right?
Darkness warshed over the Dude - darker'n a black steer's tookus on a moonless prairie night. There was no bottom.
by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Aug 29, 2011 7:59 AM CDT reply actions
We've been saying that about Wizgerald for damn near half a decade now.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Aug 29, 2011 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions
What's L. Miles stance on ass sandwiches?
by HawkeyePapyrus on Aug 29, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Loves 'em. One bite makes him feel alive.
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Aug 29, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Loves them, especially with a side of turf.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Aug 29, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
You're right; LSU is indeed due for a "down" year. They won't make double-digit wins.
LSU’s defense should be very good but offense is questionable. Their schedule is very tough. If the preseason drama really takes a toll on team performance I could see 3 losses in the month of September alone (Oregon, WVU, Miss St.). Then they still have to play Florida, Auburn, Arkansas (home) and Bama (road). Also tricky conference games with Kentucky, at Tennessee. Whew!
Considering the turmoil and brutal schedule, I think LSU is a four-loss team.
And they still have Miles running the show.
LSU fans aren’t even sure how they got that many wins last year.
Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 29, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I forgot about LSU's offseason turmoil.
Yeah, that changes things.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
I'm calling it right now.
Arizona State, national champs.
"Oh, glorious cheeseburger, we bow to thee. The secrets of the Universe are between the buns."
Will their fanbase of Chicago gang members travel to a big bowl?
/new uniforms’d
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 29, 2011 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Someone's been slurping the Hoke koolaid
Having Michigan in at all is much more insane than MSU in the top 10. New coach, new system, same tire fire defense.
Insanity, I tell you.
Same players
different scheme. Different coaches too. It’s not like the Meatchicken will have a shut down defense, but it won’t be as bad as it has been for the last few years.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
I just want someone to explain why Penn State isn't one of the top 25 teams.
And I definitely want to know how 1) Michigan’s offense is vastly superior to Penn State’s offense and 2) how Michigan’s defense is even within the same dimension of existence as Penn State’s defense.
Now let's go surprise Harry Heth!
by ReadingRambler on Aug 29, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
You have a ginger walk-on quarterback and a matador offensive line.
Also, your coach thinks it’s 1977.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Aug 29, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
ANNIE HALL WAS A FILTHY TRAMP
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Aug 29, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
You really are a Pitt fan, aren't you?
Now let's go surprise Harry Heth!
by ReadingRambler on Aug 29, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Pitt is a college football team. Nebraska is a college football team.
There are many factors involved in closeting your true loyalties.
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.
by ckmneon on Aug 29, 2011 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
So a defense that was already awful playing a scheme it worked on for a couple seasons . . .
Is going to be BETTER playing a scheme it just learned, like, this spring?
Color me sketpical.
Is there any chance that the new defense is incredibly simple when compared with the mess that GERG was teaching?
It seems entirely plausible to believe that Mattison could come in and teach the guys a little discipline and expect the defense to make improvements. That’s not to say that Michigan will be the best in the B1G, but they could easily improve.
by The Mexican't on Aug 29, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
This
Easily a better coordinator than the GERG (not even close) and he’ll probably have them focused more on playing sound fundamentals before he starts to seriously scheme in years 2 and beyond, which fits into how Hoke built everywhere else he went.
Do you really think there's no talent there?
It’s fucking Michigan. They put a line in the water and out come four-star recruits. Brian documented somewhere that there was no discernible drop in star rating on the defensive side of the ball under RichRod. So either everyone — coaches, Rivals, Scout, etc. — got it wrong with virtually every Michigan defensive recruit, or their coaching fucking blew.
I’m going with Option B.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Aug 29, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't dispute any of what you say . . .
However, sometimes it’s harder to get kids to UNLEARN bad habits than to learn new ones.
I think Mattison is going to make a tremendous difference in Michigan’s defense going forward.
But I predict many growing pains there this season. I also see growing pains with reining in D-Rob on offense.
Michigan has talent, no doubt. But they are coming out of an abusive coaching relationship. Expecting them to shake off that crapitude in one offseason is just a bit unrealistic, IMO.
by Torbee on Aug 29, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm sure Michigan has the finest 4 star 160 lb. DBs in the land.
It will take a few years to get people large enough for weekly B10 play though.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Aug 29, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
The biggest repository of highly rated talent is their defensive line
The secondary is three-stars and walk-ons.
by Yinka Double Dare on Aug 29, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
So they're immediately more talented and experienced than Penn State or whatever.
Go Pitt!
Now let's go surprise Harry Heth!
by ReadingRambler on Aug 29, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Brian Kelly track record
Year 1: OK
Year 2: This.
Happens everywhere he goes. Probably will happen here.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Aug 29, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
It kills me
but yeah, I think Notre Dame could be nasty this year
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.
A friend of mine who is an insufferable Notre Dame fan
made a pretty convincing argument for Notre Dame. I seem to remember hearing something along the lines of 0 touchdowns given up by their defense in their last 5 games. I think the numbers were slanted, something like not counting a touchdown or two because the offense put them inside the 10 or something, but still they might just be decent.
Then again, I’ve heard shit like this every year with them.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
What I'll say for ND is this
There was a loss to a mediocre at best Michigan team. They got their internal organs fed to them by a young Navy team. There were thoroughly unimpressive wins against Pitt and Western Michigan. They lost at home to a rebuilding Tulsa team. After that game, they were very arguably the best team in the country from that point on. I wish I was exaggerating, but I’m not.
There are some very losable games on their schedule, but the only one where I say, “oh yeah, that team should definitely be better than them” is Michigan State, who 1) needed a trick play to beat them last year and 2) will be at ND this year and 3) is Michigan State.
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.
I sometimes root for ND,
but I don’t like Kelly.
Also, I’m more likely to think they’ll do well if they have good-to-very-good offense, and it is tough for me to think that if they have half-a-veteran O-Line, and one good WR. And a QB with knees wrapped in plastique.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 29, 2011 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Needs more Smelley 'Cocks
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Aug 29, 2011 9:08 AM CDT reply actions
Thank you for reminding me why everyone was laughing about Nebby fans thinking they'd kill the Big Ten in their first year.
Seriously, it’s funny how that team, a few months ago, was being called a 7-5, 8-4, or 9-3 team (depending on who was talking). But now, after months of 5 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS, everyone is putting them down to win the damn thing.
How can people buy into hype now after warning everyone about the hype back during spring camp?
Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Aug 29, 2011 9:43 AM CDT reply actions
Was #6 LSU
decided before or after Jefferson and the Linebacker were arrested and suspended until their cases are decided?
If it was before, would you still rank them #6?
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
After
Had I been ranking them earlier, it would have been about the same in spite of, and not because of, Jordan Jefferson. I’m betting on Jarrett Lee not causing a significant drop-off and LSU’s general talent everywhere else to carry them through (they’re the only team that can compete with Bama and OU on a pure athletic basis).
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Aug 29, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't forget about Ohio State
they’ve got stockpiles of talent waiting in the wings. I think it’s very possible that their team will actually improve by replacing Terrell Pryor. Their running game was so dominant over the last year that had they relied on it more they would have won several games even more comfortably, including the game against Iowa a couple years ago. They were gashing us on the ground and finally Tressel has seen enough of Pryor pissing the game down his leg and just stopped letting him pass it.
It’s going to be an interesting year.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
OSU will drop 1-2 games
simply because of the uncertainty at QB, but I agree they may be a better team without the Arm Punter.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Watched ESPN Game Day crew
preseason show from Austin and I am pretty sure I heard Herbstreit picking Iowa vs Wisky in the B10 championship game.
I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan
Pretty sure you heard correctly
It’s definitely a year that a 2 loss team from the west (I will not use the stupid-ass names they strapped us with) could still play in the CCG.
Please note that the internet does not, as of yet, have a sarcasm font.
Does the winner get the B1G trophy and the Bull?
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Aug 29, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes.
Darkness warshed over the Dude - darker'n a black steer's tookus on a moonless prairie night. There was no bottom.
by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Aug 29, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
This
Unless we meet ISU in a bowl game…a part of me will be dead if the cy hawk ever is on display at a bowl game.
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
by BoiseHawk on Aug 29, 2011 1:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Actually, that new Cy-Hawk
is pretty much on par with the CapOne and Insight trophies:
http://thegazette.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/capone.jpg
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_le7alssdyp1qegnvfo1_500.jpg
And I’m not the biggest fan of the Outback trophy, either:
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0d9F0gx3thbsP/610×.jpg
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 29, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Judging by that pic
JoePa doesn’t care for the Outback either.
Frankly as long as it is at Raymond James it should have an Auzzie-pirate theme for the trophy.
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
I feel similarly.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 29, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Also
Part of the dead comment stems from the pure disappointment any bowl game against ISU would bring me…regardless of the trophy.
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
It was OSU-Iowa
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Aug 29, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
A true work of art
This ballot via Tomahawk Nation
Darkness warshed over the Dude - darker'n a black steer's tookus on a moonless prairie night. There was no bottom.
by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Aug 29, 2011 11:59 AM CDT reply actions
WTF is that?
ISU is ranked 13th? Colorado at 17?
But Rambler will love this Blogpoll. Penn State is 18th!
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Aug 29, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I mean 19th. //me no good at charts
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Aug 29, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's based entirely on strength of schedule
by The Mexican't on Aug 29, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
even if i could take this poll seriously
Predictive strength of schedule is a fickle proposition.
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
by BoiseHawk on Aug 29, 2011 1:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I love any blogpoll that wasn't conceived by a halfbreed Nebraskan from the Oakland section of Pittsburgh.
So there.
Now let's go surprise Harry Heth!
by ReadingRambler on Aug 29, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
They do raise some lawyerin' birds, there.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 29, 2011 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
ESPN just said this poll was SEC biased
Seriously this is the worst poll Ive seen so far
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
by BoiseHawk on Aug 29, 2011 1:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Tomahawk Nation files their preseason poll as a protest every year
They’ve used different metrics in the past, this year all they used was strength of schedule straight up and nothing else. Its not meant to be taken seriously.
I got confused when I saw the final tally of all votes for the blogpoll and saw #24 Auburn receiving 1 first place vote, I just had to track it down to see what kind of ballot produced that outcome.
Darkness warshed over the Dude - darker'n a black steer's tookus on a moonless prairie night. There was no bottom.
by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Aug 29, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ohh...
I see. Maybe they said somewhere as well, but what are they using for SoS if no one has played yet—last year’s?
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
Yeah, thats how it looked to me too
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
I don't know who the last team to follow a MNC with a losing record was
but Auburn is my pick to be the next
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.
by ckmneon on Aug 29, 2011 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Shirley, you jest.
It is possible for them to go 5-7 or 4-8, but that means they have to lose 2 of these three: Miss State, @Clemson, Florida.
Their conference road schedule could be tough, or could be over-rated: @So Carolina, @Arky, @LSU, @Georgia.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 29, 2011 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly, I could see them losing all three of the first three you listed.
I’m not saying they will, but it’s very realistic. I could also see them losing all 4 of those conference road games, and Alabama will in all likelihood utterly humiliate them in the Iron Bowl. That could be 4-8…
I'm not sure about Clemson, but I agree on Miss State and maybe Florida.
Florida has to sort out their mess at QB, but Miss St appears to be a legitimate SEC contender.
by The Mexican't on Aug 30, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Be honest
It’s the Blogpoll. If you want to look at it as a whole, you have to wait till at least week 4 till the resume votes start meshing with everybody else. Preseason and week one are just exercises in pointing out flaws in the current system.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Aug 29, 2011 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
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