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Assume the Position 2011: Defensive Tackle

Assume the Position is our offseason guide to the Iowa Hawkeyes football depth chart.  The math is difficult, so take it from us: As time moves on, we'll know more.  That's why we rank the positions from most certain to least certain.

Previously:
1. Quarterback
2. 
Tight End
3. Running Back

4. Wide Receiver
5. Linebacker
6. Offensive Line
7. Cornerback

Today: Defensive Tackle

I would say it's dart-throwing time, because the last two or three positions in ATP are usually a crapshoot.  The thing is, that's been true of nearly every position this year.  Like wideout and cornerback before it, we are sure of one piece of the puzzle in the defensive tackle depth chart.  Unlike those, it took all of summer to find the other (and we're still not very sure of that one).  This preview might hold up all season.  Then again, it may be wrong by the time you read it.

Diesel

Mike Daniels (#93, Senior (RS), 6'1", 275, Highland Regional HS (Blackwood, NJ))

This time last year, Iowa was preparing to go into the season with the biggest, strongest, most experienced, most talented line in quite possibly the history of the program.  Adrian Clayborn and Broderick Binns were experienced at end, Binns as a pass-swatting obstruction, Clayborn as a first-order terrormonster.  GULK and Ballard had already spent a year side-by-side at defensive tackle with great success.  Barring injury, there was no need for a fifth defensive lineman.  Mike Daniels, though hyped by the coaches and the clear choice as a third defensive tackle, was shut out.  There was no room at the inn.  By week one, Ballard had moved outside to defensive end.  Binns had been sent to the bench.  There had been no room for Mike Daniels, but Daniels was so good at busting holes in opposing lines that he broke open a hole in his own.

Daniels was a garage sale find: A two-star prospect from a New Jersey school that has little history of success and finished 4-6 in his senior season, he had offers from Temple and I-AA's and some interest from Villanova in early January.  He fit the Iowa mold, though: New Jersey kid, heavyweight wrestler, high motor, played defensive line and halfback.  And it took until two weeks before Signing Day, but Iowa finally found him.  They offered January 26, he visited January 27 and called in his commitment on January 29.  After a redshirt season, he started on special teams and has worked upwards from there.  Now as a senior, coming off a season where he recorded 40 tackles, 11 tackles for loss, and 4 1/2 sacks while wreaking havoc in opposing backfields, he is the vocal leader of the defensive line and the target of every offensive coordinator on the schedule. 

That's not to say there aren't concerns.  Daniels was a superstar against Ball State last year (he won some random award as defensive player of the week from someone) but struggled in Big Ten play and late in the season; of his eleven tackles for loss, only three came against Big Ten opposition.  He recorded one in-conference sack.  In the final two games of the year, against Minnesota and Missouri, he recorded exactly zero tackles.  He's also destined for the Clayborn treatment in 2011; how he handles it, and whether he can keep something in the tank for the last month of the season, could well determine whether Iowa's defense lives up to its usual lofty standards.

The Grayshirt

Dominic Alvis (#79, Sophomore (RS), 6'4", 255, Logan-Magnolia HS (Logan, IA))

If Daniels was a diamond in the rough, Alvis was buried fifty feet underground.  He played his high school ball at a small school in western Iowa with little history of success and an even smaller record of producing Division I-level athletes.  In week four of his senior season, Alvis broke his fibula (in the middle of a game where he racked up over 200 yards rushing at halftime) and missed the rest of his season.  He held scholarship offers from South Dakota and Northern Iowa.  Despite being in the heart of Iowa State's most fertile recruiting ground, he was deemed too small to play for Gene Chizik.  Reese Morgan stumbled into him during one of his Don Quixote-like trips through the state and liked what he saw:  A productive player and established team leader who fought through a serious leg injury to play basketball and run track, and at 6'4" and 225 pounds, he had the perfect frame for Iowa's strength and conditioning program.  Iowa offered a grayshirt, and when ISU didn't get in the game -- Rhoads showed some late interest after taking over but never made an offer -- Alvis took it.

Star-divide

As it stood on Signing Day, Alvis would have to spend his first semester on campus away from the team and join in time for winter training.  He would miss August camp as a true freshman, strength and conditioning during his first fall, a full season of practice time.  For a player who was undersized, it could be an enormous setback.  In May, though, Iowa had a scholarship open when Jacody Coleman (remember him?) shipped off for somewhere where Pat Angerer wasn't playing.  Rather than twiddle his thumbs for four months, Alvis now had his ticket to summer camp.  Obviously, he took advantage, redshirting for 2009 and suddenly appearing on the depth chart behind Adrian Clayborn as a redshirt freshman.  Now, just 27 months after he was a glorified walk-on, Alvis sits atop the August depth chart at defensive tackle.

This is the part of the post where you say, "Gee, Vint, that's an excellent story, but 255 pounds at defensive tackle?"  We get that, and it was our first thought as well.  As Dochterman said on his podcast, it still seems more likely that Alvis moves outside, especially given presumptive starting defensive end Lebron Daniel's ongoing injury problems.  With that said, Mitch King weighed in at 265 for his senior season and was at his most productive at less than 260.  King was paired with a block-swallowing co-tackle.  If the coaches determine Daniels is that guy, due to either his size and strength or the giant target on his chest, they might use Alvis as the "quick" tackle on stunts.  They also might not use him here at all.  Our best guess is that he will be used situationally in a relatively constant three-player rotation.

The Space Eater (and Eater of Other Things)

Carl Davis (#71, Freshman (RS), 6'5", 310, Stevenson HS (Detroit, MI))

It's been a long time since Iowa has had a bona fide zero-technique nose tackle type, but here's Carl Davis, the first defensive lineman in ages to actually lose weight during his redshirt season.  Davis, a universal three-star recruit who held offers from Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, and most of the MAC, came to campus at nearly 325 pounds.  Doyle worked to get him to 310 (he's listed at 295 officially, but everyone acknowledges that's low), and his quickness has reportedly improved as a result.  He enters August camp planted behind Daniels on the depth chart.

Davis is the primary reason for the ongoing discussion of implementing a 3-4 defense, an idea we've panned before and continue to believe is implausible.  With that said, Ferentz remains impossibly enthralled with Bill Belichick, whose Patriots have gone to multiple defensive sets in recent years.  Furthermore, Iowa has experimented with three-man fronts in the past, most prominently in the 2009 blowout win over Iowa State where the Hawkeyes put Christian Ballard on the nose and played Jeff Tarpinian as an additional cover linebacker in passing situations with great effect.  ISU QB Austen Arnaud was clearly rattled by the look and began throwing indiscriminately to players in white jerseys.  We haven't had a chance to discuss defensive ends yet this summer, but the fact that we haven't should tell you all you need to know about Iowa's potential pass rush with four down linemen.  Those facts, when coupled with the alternative pass rush opportunities created by a three-man front and the emergence of Anthony Hitchens and Christian Kirksey as outside linebackers, mean we may see the occasional return of a loose 3-4 with Davis in the middle.  This all depends on Davis being able to hold up at the point of attack, a presumption without any basis in fact until he steps on the field.  We like his chances, though, and he'll have plenty of opportunities to prove it in 2011.

While You Wait for the Others

Steve Bigach (#54, Junior (RS), 6'3", 282, St. Ignatius HS (Cleveland, OH))

There's a certain kind of Iowa player, a guy like Brad Herman or Adam Gettis, who always gets mentioned by the coaches, who has occasional injury issues but never anything extremely debilitating, who just can't ever get over the hump and grab a starting spot.  Steve Bigach, who spent two seasons toiling behind Karl Klug and now might well be usurped by younger players, is one of those players.  We've heard for three years that Bigach has impressed his coaches, that he's a natural fit once a defensive tackle spot opens.  The spot is now open, and yet Bigach opens another August as backup.  He'll have his chances this year -- barring a breakout performance by Davis, everyone will -- but it should really be more at this point, no?

Thomas Nardo (#87, Senior (RS), 6'3", 277, Lancaster (PA) Catholic HS)

The Nard Dog recorded the first three tackles of his career in blowout wins over Eastern Illinois and Ball State last season, which is a good thing.  Nardo, a preferred walk-on in the Class of 2007, has always been mentioned as a team leader and hard worker, and he deserves to walk away with at least a Moonlight Graham state line.  With that said, Nardo still probably won't play much outside special teams.  He's listed as co-second string defensive tackle entering his final August camp, and there's little more than the promise of a big defensive line rotation to indicate he'll break through.

Darian Cooper (Number unknown, Freshman, 6'1", 290, Dematha Catholic HS (Hyattsville, MD))

Cooper, the most recent byproduct of Iowa's new connection with D.C.-area powerhouse Dematha Catholic, is one of the rarest things in the Iowa recruiting universe: A ready-made defensive lineman who may well have skipped a redshirt season and contribute immediately.  We use the past tense for a reason: He's not on campus yet.  When pressed for a reason why Cooper was still sitting at home, Ferentz said it was a "complication," which is probably the most Kirk Ferentz answer ever.  Regardless of what that complication is -- and, let's face it, it's almost certainly a clearinghouse issue if it's occurring in August -- it threatens the career of another of the crown jewels of Iowa's 2011 class.  When coupled with Rodney Coe's exile, it's devastating.  If the "complication" is worked out and Cooper returns to camp later this week as Ferentz projected Friday, it merely decreases the chances Cooper plays this season.  But we've seen this before, and it almost always ends at prep school.

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Vint, why you gotta go end the post all negative?

There goes my Wednesday. Damn, I was just startin’ to get excited for the season, too!

by Lukateake on Aug 10, 2011 8:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Anti SEC

Our defensive line is the most un-SEC thing about our team. We are really really small and I fear that our inability to recruit/retain this position will be our biggest weakness this year. It’s rather hard to be glass half full here.

by GuttedSnowBird on Aug 10, 2011 8:43 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

inability to recruit this position?

are you serious? The Ferentz era has been marked by great defensive line play. Just because the guys that we bring in are not “NFL size” or blue chip recruits does not mean that they can’t be outstanding D1 defensive lineman. I think that I will give this group the benefit of the doubt until they prove that they are not up to snuff. If it turns out that this group of undersized, under recruited defensive linemen are actually no good it will be the exception not the rule.

He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!

by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Aug 10, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Understand

I loved Klug , Kroul King etc but we have really had difficulty getting the kind of big bodies that most other top rated teams get. We either lose them to another school or they get here and flunk out (big human) ?Cooper.
They say that the depth of large big men is what really separates us from SEC schools… I don’t really know but I wish we had two or three 300 pounders for the middle.

by GuttedSnowBird on Aug 10, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait...why are we comparing ourselves to SEC schools again?

We only play the SEC in occasional New Years Day bowl games and under Ferentz we’re 3-1 in those games (although the one loss was really to the refs, not to Florida, IMO). I agree that we lack SEC size up front. Which is probably appropriate given that WE DON’T PLAY IN THE SEC.

by Abbas_Cincinnatus on Aug 10, 2011 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Broderick - smell my finger...

You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Aug 10, 2011 8:52 AM CDT reply actions  

If we can't get Cooper here

I think the 3-4 may be inevitable. Some of these guys just are not that good (I hope I am wrong).

"I don't believe in quotes" - Karl Klug

by Nature Boy on Aug 10, 2011 9:15 AM CDT reply actions  

I think that's absurdly premature.

The only guy here that we’ve even seen play more than a handful of snaps is Daniels. For the last 2-3 years, our defensive linemen have been stuck behind a bunch of guys who are in NFL training camps this year. That’s not an insignificant hurdle to overcome. While it would have been nice to see more more rotation from the coaches and get them some more snaps, that didn’t happen.

I don’t doubt that there will be a drop-off from the level of play we’ve seen the last few years — it would be ridiculous to suggest otherwise — but until we see them actually do something, it’s impossible to predict the extent of that drop-off.

As far as the 3-4 goes… I’m a fan of using it for certain looks, but a wholesale change-over doesn’t seem like a great idea. It’s doubtful that our personnel is any better-suited to run that as our base defense and they wouldn’t have the luxury of the years of practice that they have with the 4-3 defense.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Aug 10, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

this

I personally hate the idea of a 3-4 base. I love the idea of using it situationally but with all of the success we have had with the current base I can’t imagine changing it before we see what this group has. I think people are getting way too excited about this.

He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!

by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Aug 10, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am not a big fan of it

I was only commenting to the lack of talent in the tackle box. I sure hope we see some Klug/ King types and I know we have developed them before, but this is a group I am truly worried about.

"I don't believe in quotes" - Karl Klug

by Nature Boy on Aug 10, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

To be more precise, it's a lack of proven talent.

We need to see what Alvis and Davis and Bigach (and hopefully Cooper) can do. None of us expected much from a guy like Klug, either.

Don’t get me wrong — I’m still concerned about it and I have visions of the ‘05 line dancing in my head and giving up lots of long, painful drives. But we just have to wait and see how things shake out. It wouldn’t be the first time we’ve been pleasantly surprised.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Aug 10, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am not a fan of the 3-4

But, I think we should look at it against Pitt maybe. If they are planning on running no-huddle and trying to put 75+ plays (we will run Coker all day so that many might not happen) we have some solid LB’s who can keep up with multi-WR sets.

Battles are won with a hammer, wars are won with a scalpel

by C.I.owA on Aug 10, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think you'll see 3-4 predominantly

I think you’ll see it situationally. And I think you’ll see far more stunts and swaps/alignment games from Iowa this year. They’ll disguise lack of experience through misdirection.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Aug 10, 2011 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Allegedly Cooper has an issue with his final transcript from DeMatha and is getting that sorted out now.

We’ll see, I guess. If he’s not here by the end of the week, I wouldn’t bank on much.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Aug 10, 2011 9:21 AM CDT reply actions  

If Dematha has him listed as "Darian Hooper" then yes

If it’s a “transcript issue” of any other kind, it’s a grade that the NCAA doesn’t like and that will leave him at Milford.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Aug 10, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Obligatory Milford Academy reference

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Aug 10, 2011 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Defensive Tackle

has me worried the most. I am not to the point of a complete pessimist, I would say more to the point of hope for the best, expect the worst optimist.

Daniels, I would hope, steps his game up this year. I think that he knows he has the lion’s share of responsibility this year and I believe he will surprise a whole lot of people.

I remember when we lost Babineux to graduation, a lot of Iowa fans were worried about the Defensive tackle spot then. We ended up getting King who was unproven and undersized and after King were worried again about unproven talent with Ballard and Klug.

I hope and sincerely believe that Daniels, Alvis, and/or Davis have really benefitted being understudies to these players and will be carrying on the traditions of great Hawkeye defense.

I hope.

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TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin
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by Bloodpunch's Barbasol on Aug 10, 2011 9:58 AM CDT reply actions  

If I read Morehouse correctly....

Davis has been getting some first unit snaps. Big, tall, D-lineman. Love it.

NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

by Blackheartnopants on Aug 10, 2011 10:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Okay I will take it upon myself to provide a little pick-me-up for everyone.

Defensive line is going to be the surprise unit of 2011.

You’re fucking welcome.

by bornofclay on Aug 10, 2011 11:13 AM CDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

I LIKE

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Aug 10, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait, wait, wait

surprise good, or surprise bad? That’s a little vague for my tastes

It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?

by chitownhawkeye on Aug 10, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Excuse me, but

is there something about my sig line that’s unclear? Maybe I need to bold it as well. We have been small in the past, and made it work by technique or stunts. Linebacker fill has helped as well, and less size there would be my only concern. I do think we will do some situational 3-4 against spread teams, more perhaps than we have in the past. But job 1 remains to stop the run, and for that we use…….(see below)

FOUR. THREE. COVER. TWO.

by Mr. Grizz on Aug 10, 2011 11:18 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Mike Daniels! Arm wrestling! Let's go!

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

by Blackheartnopants on Aug 10, 2011 11:19 AM CDT reply actions  

the back says "Love it or Leave It"

Here is the dude’s blog who designed

Thicker than Delta Burke swimmin in a Guiness.

by Ill Jukes on Aug 10, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice, but this should be in Hamsterdam

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Aug 10, 2011 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

DERP

Here is the dude’s blog who designed

Thicker than Delta Burke swimmin in a Guiness.

by Ill Jukes on Aug 10, 2011 11:35 AM CDT reply actions  

It's a little early to panic, but Cooper spending a year in prep school wouldn't be the end of the world

For all the recruiting hype I doubt he was going to play a particularly huge role on this year’s team anyway. It hurts from a depth perspective but it’s hardly a disaster.

by NorseHawk on Aug 10, 2011 11:51 AM CDT reply actions  

That assumes he still comes to Iowa after that year

Which is far from certain. Especially since he seemed to really need to be convinced during recruiting.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Aug 10, 2011 12:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Tweets are saying that

Cooper is now in Iowa City.

I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan

by Kluginator on Aug 10, 2011 12:36 PM CDT reply actions  

here a link

Morehouse Link

I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan

by Kluginator on Aug 10, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

CRISIS AVERTED.

Now we can go back to worrying about the important stuff, like where Jordun Bernstein is going to play.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Aug 10, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I heard Carmody is using sweet potatoes now.

Must all starches be anti-Iowa?

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Aug 10, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Aug 10, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe we should worry about spelling his name correctly

/needlessly trolls the mods

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Aug 10, 2011 3:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

(That was part of the joke.)

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Aug 10, 2011 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was James Stewart running from the biplane part of the joke, too? If so, I laughed heartily, but not in the way you intended.

by txhawkeye on Aug 10, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey!! I just went back and looked. You bastard, you get the power of the comment delete! Curses!!

by txhawkeye on Aug 10, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, SIR.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Aug 10, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Touché

And kudos to you for going uber-meta on that one

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Aug 10, 2011 10:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Three words...

Cole Heissel.

You heard it here first. The kid’s going to be a stud.

by BrewHawk on Aug 10, 2011 1:25 PM CDT reply actions  

That'd be nice.

Poor dude can’t even get a pic on Hawkeye Sports, though.

Unless his head is a tiger hawk. Which would be kinda freaky (and awesome).

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Aug 10, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn rookie mistake! Forgot to hit the reply button.

(see standalone post below about Cole and his tiger hawk head)

by BrewHawk on Aug 10, 2011 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Photo

I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan

by Kluginator on Aug 10, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

He looks pretty small in that photo...

rimshot

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Aug 10, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Apparently asterisks embolden your text.

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Aug 10, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Embiggen

They embiggen your text

It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?

by chitownhawkeye on Aug 10, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's taking the disrespect card-playing to a whole different level.

A (bitter) monster in the making. I’ve heard he feels ten times the scorn of your typical Iowa fan.

…or maybe his head is a tiger hawk. I’m in favor of either.

by BrewHawk on Aug 10, 2011 1:40 PM CDT reply actions  

I hope he uses the beak to peck at opponents' faces.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Aug 10, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

You'd think that would draw a lot more penalties than it does

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Aug 10, 2011 3:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

You just gotta be sneaky.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Aug 10, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, a sneaky pecker.

As opposed to Pierce, Everson, et al.

by BrewHawk on Aug 10, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where is LeBron Daniel?

Me thinks me is missing something…

by Lweb23 on Aug 10, 2011 6:23 PM CDT reply actions  

He's a defensive end.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Aug 10, 2011 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

He already fell for Mike Daniels' finger joke

Now it’s Binns’ turn.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Aug 10, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

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