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Assume the Position 2011: Offensive Line

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Assume the Position is our offseason guide to the Iowa Hawkeyes football depth chart.  The math is difficult, so take it from us: As time moves on, we'll know more.  That's why we rank the positions from most certain to least certain.

Previously:
1. Quarterback
2. 
Tight End
3. Running Back

4. Wide Receiver
5. Linebacker

Today: Offensive Line

This is the highest offensive line has ever placed in ATP.  Usually, due to sheer number of players available for five spots, the offensive line falls into the final two or three spots.  But it's a strange year, both in the offensive line and in the depth chart in general.  It's probably a good thing; after all, the best Iowa teams have been built on experienced players at the point of attack.

The Great One, Volume Four

Left Tackle: Riley Reiff (#77, Junior (RS), 6'6", 300, Parkston (SD) HS)

It's getting to be that time for the recruiting class of 2008.  The attrition is largely over (and, Lord, has there been attrition; only 14 of 25 signees are still here).  Some, like Vandenberg, Castillo, Herman, Gimm, Swanson, and Bigach, are on the verge of getting their chance.  Some, like BHGP favorite Casey McMillan and Joe Gaglione, are three years in and still nowhere to be found.  And then there are two, Shaun Prater and Riley Reiff, who have so established themselves as part of the squad that they feel like veterans.

Reiff came to Iowa as a defensive end, shirking an early verbal commitment to Nebraska when Callahan was given his walking papers.  He was in trouble before his first practice had even begun, getting picked up for running naked through downtown.  We all shook our heads; while Reiff was not the first, and would not be the last, player to get in early trouble, the track record for such players was not good.  Yet his response was silence.  We heard nothing about Reiff during his redshirt season; we didn't even know of his position change until the next spring.

We knew the next fall.  After a disastrous performance by the line in the season opening nailbiter against UNI, Ferentz installed Reiff at left tackle in place of the injured Bryan Bulaga.  Reiff, who had never played a snap before that day, was surprisingly competent.  Over the course of the 2009 season, "surprisingly competent" became "stalwart of the offensive line" as Reiff started at left tackle, left guard, and right tackle.  He was arguably the best lineman on a team with a first-round NFL draft pick and two (probably soon-to-be three) other eventual professionals.  When Bulaga bolted early for the NFL, Reiff's position on the left was written in pen at the top of the depth chart, where he will stay until he leaves for the NFL at the end of this season.

Reiff's first year as a full-time starter at left tackle was a bit of a mixed bag.  For the most part, Reiff handled himself capably, and he was named second team all-conference when it was all said and done.  But Reiff struggled with the best of the conference, in particular J.J. Watt.  There remains room for improvement here; whether it comes this season at Iowa or next in the pros remains to be seen.

The Mad Russian

Right Tackle: Markus Zusevics (#56, Senior (RS), 6'5", 300, Prospect HS (Arlington Heights, IL))

Zusevics performed admirably in his first year as a starter, taking the right tackle spot for all thirteen games.  He played every meaningful down of 2010 without injury or incident.  His footwork was clumsy at times, and he didn't exhibit the same sort of agility as Reiff (or as Kyle Calloway the year before, for that matter), but he also rarely gave up the right flank without a fight or whiffed on his zone blocking assignments in the run game.  He's not the kind of gargantuan bookend we're used to seeing on the right and, for that fact alone, he might not be any more than an NFL free agent.  But regardless of where he goes after this season, he's back on the right this year; barring the unfortunate, nobody else will take that spot.  I have absolutely nothing more to say here.

Star-divide

Teacher's Pet

Center: James Ferentz (#53, Junior (RS), 6'2", 275, Iowa City HS)

It's been an eventful few years for James Ferentz.  First, he got picked up a couple of times for doing dumb stuff with his buddies during his redshirt season, stuff we'll not prey upon here.  He spent the next year making up for it, barely seeing the field (one brief appearance late in the blowout of Iowa State), and looked to be at least two years from a starting position, both physically and mentally.

And then spring practice broke last April with Ferentz listed next to Josh Koeppel at center.  And then Koeppel got smashed by a truck while riding a moped, and Ferentz was the starting center for the season opening win over Eastern Illinois almost by default.  He never gave it up, starting all thirteen games and doing all the typical Iowa center stuff: Calling out blocking assignments and handling second-level zone moves with aplomb.  He's got two more years and no real competition (unlike Bruggeman and Eubanks in years prior), and should only improve from here.

The Melting Pot

Offensive Guard:
Adam Gettis (#73, Senior (RS), 6'4", 280, Lincoln Way East HS (Frankfort, IL))
Nolan MacMillan (#76, Sophomore (RS), 6'6", 290, The Hun School (New Jersey))
Brandon Scherff (#68, Freshman (RS), 6'5", 315, Denison (IA) HS)

This is where we're supposed to say that this spot is for Adam Gettis until notified otherwise, that an upperclassman is going to get the benefit of the doubt over a sophomore with Kirk Ferentz and Reese Morgan, that Gettis has always been on the verge of landing the guard position and finally has a clear path.  The problem is that we wrote the same damn thing last year and the year before.  In 2008, Gettis entered and exited August camp as a starter and lost his spot after one game.  In 2009, he again won the starting position in fall camp, but missed the first two games with injuries, only started two games, and wasn't particularly impressive in his limited time on the field.  By the end of the season, he was buried behind a backup center and a redshirt freshman.  Now we're supposed to believe Gettis is going to start as a senior.  Fool me once, etc.

Our guess is that Gettis will eventually lose his position to Brandon Scherff, who looks like he might follow the Reiff/Bulaga route to the left tackle spot in 2012.  A universal three-star recruit who chose Iowa over offers from the entire Big XII North who added forty pounds over his redshirt season, Scherff is now a mountain (especially when compared to the somewhat undersized Gettis).  He has drawn accolades from the coaching staff from the moment he arrived on campus.  With that size, he's inevitably moving to a tackle spot (my guess is left, especially if Reiff leaves early), but the old Ferentz tactic of getting a tackle some real-time experience at guard looks like the eventual play here.

Of course, there's the wild card, sophomore Nolan MacMillan.  When healthy, MacMillan looks like a guaranteed starter.  Despite being undersized, he nearly avoided a redshirt and saw practice time at tackle in his first month on campus.  He was injured and eventually redshirted.  Last year, he won a starting spot in August and actually started the first six games of the season.  He was injured and missed the rest of the year.  He left spring practice this April as the prohibitive starter at left guard.  If he survives, he'll have every chance to hold that job, and he'll be good at it.  It's just that the chances he makes it unscathed seem less likely every season.

While You Wait for the Others

Woody Orne (#72, Senior (RS), 6'5", 295, Fairfield (IA) HS/South Dakota St.)

There's a delicate process of immersion that generates Iowa linemen.  The great ones start showing signs of life after a redshirt season spent developing strength and technique.  The good ones take a bit longer.  There have been some who did it faster, guys like Bulaga and Marshall Yanda.  But the fact is a transfer lineman needs to have the strength and experience necessary to make up for the reduced amount of time in the Iowa linemen ecosystem.  Woody Orne is, by all accounts, the strongest guy on the team and one of the strongest ever.  However, the buzz over that pure strength is now gone, and the question marks remain.  Orne's a good story -- overlooked by even the Iowa guys who find guys like him every year despite growing up in their backyard, spent a year at a small school where he dominated, then transferred back into the school where he always wanted to play -- but it might not have the happiest of endings.

Brett Van Sloten (#70, Sophomore (RS), 6'6", 290, Decorah (IA) HS)

Van Sloten, the next in a long line of two-star projects discovered by Ferentz & Co., might be ahead of schedule.  He'd won the second-team right tackle job by spring of his second season and played sparingly in the first two games of the year, with consistent special teams duty throughout.  He hasn't had any injury issues yet, and he's got the size to play any position right now.  He's a longshot at guard and a potential backup should something happen to Zusevics, and he has to be the odds-on favorite for right tackle in 2012.

Andrew Donnall (#78, Freshman (RS), 6'7", 285, Anthony Wayne HS (Monclovia, OH))

He's a universal four-star U.S. Army All-American who turned down offers from everyone not named Ohio State.  He's six-foot-seven and is probably 300 pounds by now.  He dutifully served his redshirt season without incident.  And he's not on the depth chart while Scherff is in contention for a starting position.  Please please please oh God please don't let this be Dan Doering again.

Matt Tobin (#60, Junior (RS), 6'6", 285, Dyersville Beckman HS (Worthington, IA))

On the other hand, a walk-on from small-school Iowa that hadn't been mentioned in four years is now in the two-deep at left tackle for the second consecutive season.  He probably won't move beyond that point; guys like Scherff and Donnall are there if Reiff leaves early, and Tobin is one of those classic Iowa depth chart filler guys, a program guy who could be a capable fill-in in a bind.

Conor Boffeli (#59, Sophomore (RS), 6'5", 285, Valley HS (West Des Moines, IA))

Boffeli -- One N, two F's, one L for those of you scoring at home -- is currently listed as James Ferentz's backup at center, a position that would place him in the starting lineup in his senior season (because, let's face it, James Ferentz isn't getting demoted).  Of course, Josh Koeppel showed us that a backup center can make his way into a starting guard spot with a bit of hard work (remember, the assignments are similar), and Boffeli is certainly big enough for consideration at those other spots.  It's not likely this season with the logjam on the interior line, but down the line he could feature at any number of spots.

Casey McMillan (#66, Junior (RS), 6'4", 305, Central Catholic HS (Billings, MT))

There were some signs of life from Big Montana this spring -- he got some mentions from the coaches, at least -- but it's still extremely unlikely that the patron saint of BHGP sees the field in the foreseeable future.  At least from the looks of the pictures from the Women's Football Academy this summer, he looks like he's physically ready to play.  Go get 'em, Big Grizz.

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To be fair...

Wo don’t know Riley Reiff is going to the NFL after this season.

by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Jul 11, 2011 8:30 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd almost say he could be a Gallery type guy

you know, the guy that could bolt early, but decides to stick around to hopefully build his stock even more. Everytime I read or hear an interview with this guy, he gives me the impression that he does not think he is ready – of course he could just be blowing a bunch up my ass.

We're gonna go America all over their asses!

by ninerhawk on Jul 11, 2011 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

and by a bunch, I mean smoke.

We're gonna go America all over their asses!

by ninerhawk on Jul 11, 2011 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice save.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

One time at band camp

I saw a guy blow a bunch up someone’s ass. It was not pretty.

"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants

by Kluginator on Jul 11, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ya

Work was distracting me at the most inopportune time while writing that comment.

We're gonna go America all over their asses!

by ninerhawk on Jul 11, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree but

That could easily change after another season of improvement and success.

They say you're a pitcher, you're sure not much of a dresser. We wear caps and sleeves on this level, son.

by isHawkeye on Jul 11, 2011 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Woah

Someone had pretty much the same name idea as me.

by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Jul 11, 2011 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

They're complementary, you need both

We have to represent both KOK and Norm.

BOOM 4-3 cover 2! Deal with that!

by 99playsNAblitzaint1 on Jul 11, 2011 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's still kind of freaking me out.

I feel like I’m stuck in an endless loop.

At least you don’t have similar avatars, too.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

And they're both kind of inaccurate

Iowa actually does blitz more than once every 99 plays and we all know KOK doesn’t have 99 formations in his playbook.

by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Jul 11, 2011 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

He does have a four-wide formation, though.

We’ve seen it. (Albeit very, very, very rarely.)

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

We even saw 5 wide a few times in 2009

I remember staring in utter disbelief from the south endzone. I think it was at least once against UNI when we were trying to do anything to take pressure off the line, so it was “hey let’s spread the field and put Ricky in shotgun”.

by PackerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, we even did that a few times.

I still remember SMA being excited about that wrinkle and thinking it might lead to future offensive experimentation (to be fair, I had the same hopes).

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think we all did

Just like defensive experimentation like dropping AC into coverage… (Well, maybe not so much with a DE in coverage, but it was a wrinkle).

by PackerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ahem

Shotgun 4 WR with trips right – Tate to Holloway, 2005 Capitol One Bowl

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull." - W.C. Fields

by rockyh on Jul 11, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, but it's close enough

Maybe 1 in 20 plays vs 1 in 100 that I’m giving him credit for. Rare enough that it made sense.

Also, blitz kinda sounds like the real version of the song.

BOOM 4-3 cover 2! Deal with that!

by 99playsNAblitzaint1 on Jul 11, 2011 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know what an "NFL" is

Sounds like something that won’t be around until 2012 to me.

by mikjones24 on Jul 11, 2011 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not to totally threadjack, but... yeah, right.

The NFL will be playing this fall.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Shane Falco needs to quit shunning and finish cleaning those glasses.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't forget to clean the barnicles off my boat.

Get in there all nice and deep like.

We're gonna go America all over their asses!

by ninerhawk on Jul 11, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

And my lawnmower

Lotsa grass building up under there. Doesn’t mulch worth a crap. I mean, since you’ve got your scraper handy and all.

There's something about orange soda that is deeply satisfying.

by Loosemeatsammich on Jul 11, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

OFF-TOPIC

Do you happen to be from NW Iowa or South Dakota? I ask because your username mentions “loose meats” and I’ve not heard that term outside of NW IA/South Dakota. (People up in MSP give me weird looks if I use it.)

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

They say that in eastern Iowa as well

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Ottumwa Canteen owns loose meat sammiches

…and was (supposedly) the idea behind the loose meat sandwich restaurant in “Roseanne”.

Yaaay, Ottumwa trivia.

by mattbednar on Jul 11, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

They own the term?

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

No.

“Owns” not, like…owns.

by mattbednar on Jul 11, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, that completely cleared it up.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe he's saying that the loose meat sammiches at the Ottumwa canteen are the bee's knees, daddy-o.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gnarly. Got it now.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

What would Tom Haverford call loose meat/maid rite (etc.)?

Crumbly cow? Naked walking taco? The Juice meat (cause The Juice is loose)?
Ideas?

Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 11, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd go for Cow Crumbles.

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 11, 2011 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know, I know, I know.

I didn’t mean to make your brain assplode but The Canteen is that good. I give credit where credit is due. That is how you know the things I say are incredibly important. (that last part was difficult to type w/o laughing)

Okay, sorry, that subject line was all fuckered up but you get the jist. Stupid work interfering w/ my BHGP time.

by Carfino'sWay on Jul 11, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you can eat a Canteen sandwich and not love it...

Joseph McCarthy will rise from the dead and denounce you.

by mattbednar on Jul 11, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Try using the term in PA

which is odd because cheeseseaks are loose meat sandwiches! Since my parents are from Muscatine we grew up knowing that a maid-rite is a loose meat sandwich.

by PackerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

The guys over at EDSBS were hating on maid-rite the other day. Losers.

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Losers for sure

Maid-Rite is the bomb, yo. Maid-Rite and cheese balls FTW

"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe

by Brock8144 on Jul 11, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

#teamcheesecurds

#teamcheeseballs are a weird fringe group.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

#teamcheesecurds forever.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

#teamjalapenopoppers

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull." - W.C. Fields

by rockyh on Jul 11, 2011 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

#teamappetizers

Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.

by EnergizerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

#teamfood


"Oh, glorious cheeseburger, we bow to thee. The secrets of the Universe are between the buns."

by Bucketochicken on Jul 11, 2011 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

#teamdrinks

Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.

by EnergizerHawk on Jul 12, 2011 7:26 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Cheesecurds aren't available at Maid Rite though

At least not the one’s I’ve been to. However, the fried cheese curds at the fair are unbelievably good. But some delish cheese balls w/ ranch dressing are delightful as well.

"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe

by Brock8144 on Jul 11, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cheeseballs, yes!

I actually never had them at a Maid-Rite until I was in my 20s, but I did used to consume them frequently at a resort in/near Okoboji that my family used to go to.

I also eat them anytime I am at Waterloo’s “Steamboat Gardens.”

I also remember, with fondness, when my local Burger King used to sell mozz sticks (4 for $1).

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've heard every term in Iowa

Loose-meat
Maid-rite
Sloppy Joe
Taverns
And especially in Sioux City, the Charlie Boy

Skol!

by DM_Purp on Jul 11, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck, I grew up in Sioux City and never heard it called a "Charlie Boy."

My life feels like a lie now.

I think the school lunch menu called them taverns. My step-mom calls them loose meats. My grandma calls them maid-rites. I always thought there was something special or proprietary about a Sloppy Joe.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's the breakdown on sauces here?

Sloppy Joes have always had a tomato-based sauce with them in my mind, but I always thought of the loose-meat sandwich as a steamed ground beef sandwich without tomato-based sauce. Despite being born in Iowa, I have spent most of my life in Illinois, so this is a conversation to which I’ve only been privy on UI athletics-related websites.

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 11, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maid-rites don't have sauce

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm.

It’s been so long since I’ve had any of them. I do recall that loose meats and maid-rites didn’t have as much spill-y, sloppy sauce as, uh, Sloppy Joes. But they were just plain ol’ ground beef, either. I guess they were seasoned?

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

My mother is a sweet, wonderful woman.

But cooking has never been her greatest quality, so I’ve always taken her version of a loose meat sandwich with a grain of salt. Actually quite a bit of salt and pepper; she’s pretty light on seasoning usually.

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 11, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maid-rites

Basically browned beef with the juices drained and then mixed with beef bullion and seasonings (often including dehydrated onions). They are proprietary. They were invented in 1926 in Muscatine by a moderately distant relative of mine. This is why I had maid-rite knowledge beaten into taught to me as a child.

by PackerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maid-rites

were also great places to drink underage back in the day. Well, at least the East side Cedar Rapids variant was.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jul 11, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup, walked into the Drite as a 17 year old, the summer before senior year with an ID similar to McLovin's

and the guy didn’t even card me.

(Had some friends at Coe. Many had similar stories.)

Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 11, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

This sounds about right.

My mom has been trying to make these, without any sense of what well-developed seasoning they need.

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 11, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alright, everyone.

Give me your Maid-Rite recipes. I demand it.

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 11, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

The maid-rite recipe may be proprietary, but the term has passed into general usage.

At least among certain populations in Iowa.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Certainly.

But I’m sure someone here has a recipe they’re willing to proffer as almost-as-good, if not the same.

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 11, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are we talking about steamed hams?

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz

by Blackheartnopants on Jul 11, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's an Albany expression

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jul 11, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm from Utica

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz

by Blackheartnopants on Jul 11, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you are both from SE Iowa

then it is likely

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Well done Ly

"He lowballed us and said: 'Take it or leave it. If you don't take our offer, you are rolling the dice.' I said: 'Consider them rolled.' " - Jim "Huge Brass Balls" Delaney

by ClaybornSmash on Jul 11, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fred Angell invented it (accroding to the franchise's website)

His son married a great aunt of mine (maternal grandfather’s sister). So not a blood relative of mine, but I’ll take it.

by PackerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was a story my mom told me that had a lot of holes in it.

Something about competing restaurants and words, words, words. I don’t remember. Nevermind.

by Carfino'sWay on Jul 11, 2011 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn words

So basically it was probably industrial espionage/patent stealing. It’s kind of how they roll in Muscatine.

/Carver’d

by PackerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is my understanding.

Something about our family’s restaurant, Lowe’s (pronouced with an ow, as in owie, not O as in Rob or the Home Depot-like store), had a similar sandwhich and again words, words, words. I might have to ask my dad to tell me about it since it was his side of the family.

by Carfino'sWay on Jul 11, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

So Rob Howe pronounces his name Rob Ho?

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 11, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes,

I think the “tavern” phenomenon is very NW Iowan.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Charlie Boy is a sandwich at a bar & grill (Miles Inn?)

in or near Sioux City. I have never been there, but they advertise on the Hawkeye Nation (or whatever it is now called) magazine.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shit, I don't even think they got 90 mins south to Council Bluffs.

But then, not much does.

Except for muddy water.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Jul 11, 2011 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I always thought the Charlie Boy had a hamburger patty?

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

When in doubt, refer to Adam Sandler

“Schloppy Joe, Schlop, Scloppy Joe

Have some more Sloppy Joes. I made em extra sloppy for ya. I know how yous kids like em sloppy.

Side note: I missed the drugged up version of Adam Sandler. Can someone please go shove some lines of blow up his nose?

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt

by HawKCP on Jul 11, 2011 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

*miss

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt

by HawKCP on Jul 11, 2011 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Drugs ruin a lot of lives

but they do have the effect of making a lot of comedians funnier.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jul 12, 2011 2:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

And musicians better. And painters more interesting.

And writers more relatable. Really, they can be great for most artists until the inevitable blow-up. Which is then great for TMZ, I suppose. Fuck TMZ.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 2:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Richard Pryor doesn't care what you think.

language NSFW.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvSgPowOO8c

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 12, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Osage

Home of many a fine ’rassler. Big fan of the fine folk at Maid-rite.com.

There's something about orange soda that is deeply satisfying.

by Loosemeatsammich on Jul 11, 2011 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm from 'round those parts.

I may or may not know you personally. I’d say it’s probably a 80-20 split in favor of me knowing you.

Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.

by EnergizerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

We lived on the east side.

Over by Sacred Heart. I crashed my bike on a chain-link backstop on that schoolyard one day. Busted my head open pretty good. That’s about all I remember.

There's something about orange soda that is deeply satisfying.

by Loosemeatsammich on Jul 11, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, cheers.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

You never watched Rosanne.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Jul 11, 2011 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tom Arnold is from Iowa, maybe you hadn't heard that because he rarely advertises it.

Seriously, I love Tom Arnold.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know that, but I'm just saying that show could have definitely popularized the term.

Fom larger than loose meat, anyway

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Jul 11, 2011 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you happen to read her article/expose-dealy she wrote for... Vanity Fair, I think? a couple months ago?

Fantastic. She’s an awesome lady.


"Oh, glorious cheeseburger, we bow to thee. The secrets of the Universe are between the buns."

by Bucketochicken on Jul 11, 2011 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I highly rec "longreads.com"

That site links to some of the best stuff, including the article you’ve alluded to above.

And I Should Know (poppity pops a new window to nymag.com)

by Lukateake on Jul 11, 2011 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is she actually saying that she was a feminist?

Not sure I buy that.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry, but I had her pegged as a feminist when the show was on and I was a kid.

She kept Sandra Bernhard on the show for too long to NOT a feminist.
(That’s a joke, but seriously, watch the show. The men are constantly being emasculated by the women, and she was always giving Jackie and Crystal shit for being such wussies at work or in relationships. There’s more, but that’s a jumping off point. Plus she was a woman who was in charge of her own show/destiny, come hell or high water.)

Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 11, 2011 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I did.

I didn’t remember that she sold loose meats, though.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it was toward the end of the show's run, after it started to get really depressing and less funny.

Definitely “new Becky” era.


"Oh, glorious cheeseburger, we bow to thee. The secrets of the Universe are between the buns."

by Bucketochicken on Jul 11, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

But new Becky was HOT!

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Meh.

Darlene was hotter.


"Oh, glorious cheeseburger, we bow to thee. The secrets of the Universe are between the buns."

by Bucketochicken on Jul 11, 2011 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rosie

Always go for a turn with the head mistress when trying out a brothel, that’s wha… Crap, I just threw up in my mouth. I have to go now.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

New Becky was Sarah Chalke

aka Dr. Elliot Reid of Scrubs.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jul 12, 2011 2:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was being facetious

But now I am interested. Loved her on Scrubs. Plus, yes, she was ridiculously hot on that show.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 2:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I used to eat at the Rosanne and Tom's Big Food Diner.

I don’t think I ever ordered the loose meat sandwich, though. I was a teenager, I’m sure it had something to do with rebellion. The site it was on is now the fire station.

by Carfino'sWay on Jul 12, 2011 6:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

If not

Deron Williams has found an intramural team in Malta for Chad Ochocinco to play on.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 11, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's great, at least until Chad gets distracted and wants to try out for the Maltese netball team.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hear rugby is big in Malta

But I doubt Chad would want to mess up his gold teef.

by mikjones24 on Jul 11, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Which is why I think netball is the natural sport for his hummingbird-style sporting ADD to latch onto.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's an "NFL"? Are you kidding?

Its a retirement home for Hawkeyes.
Duh.

Hawks for the win and falafels for the vagina

by DoYouLoveHawksorHate'Merica? on Jul 11, 2011 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't Forget Dan Heiar.

At least as a mention. I know he’s fortunate to be ok after the accident and will likely redshirt while he heals, but he will be in the mix at some point.

They say you're a pitcher, you're sure not much of a dresser. We wear caps and sleeves on this level, son.

by isHawkeye on Jul 11, 2011 8:48 AM CDT reply actions  

He won't play this year.

This is only for guys who will play in 2011. I don’t think that’s going to include Heiar, if only because he’ll be ready by October at the earliest and hasn’t been in the program at all before.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Jul 11, 2011 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

The O-Line is indicative of what is happening with the team as a whole

I feel as though this year moreso than perhaps any other, the #2 guys could almost all come in and be capable stand-ins for the starters. People say that the great teams don’t rebuild, they reload. Are we there yet? I think we are close. And when the enevitable injuries happen this year, the dropoff in productivity (or lack there of) will tell the tale. And I really feel like this is the case at most positions short of the d-backs. I believe the last two years of recruiting have set us up for a big multi-year run at the league title.

Any other believers out there?

I will haunt your dreams and eat your children.

by Dr. Hawk on Jul 11, 2011 8:55 AM CDT reply actions  

I think the overall depth is a little more precarious than that.

I’d be more than a little nervous of McNutt or Coker went down for an extended period of time.

I think part of that depth issue is not necessarily feeling super-confident in the replacements (although I do at offensive line and I’m pretty optimistic at tight end, too), but a general sameness between the 1s and the 2s at some positions. We don’t really know THAT much about Vandy or even the likely starters at DL or LB (for the most part, we have one year — at best — of production to go off of), so it’s not a stretch to think that the guys behind them could be about as good.

All that said, I am cautiously optimistic about a lot of the players in the mix… it’s just hard to be more than that until we see them on the field and doing stuff.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have as much, if not more, confidence

in White and Johnson then I had in Adam Robinson when Hampton went down. Certainly both guys come in with superior high school numbers than Robinson.

"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants

by Kluginator on Jul 11, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't confident in Robinson, either.

Luckily, he turned out to be a very pleasant surprise. I hope the same is true of either White or Johnson if they’re pressed into service, but it doesn’t change my level of anxiety about the depth of the RB position.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll be very happy

if White and Johnson are “more A-Rob than Paki.”

And I say that as an avowed Paki-advocate.

(Full disclosure: I’m usually just happy when the coaching staff finds reasons to give carries to any and all healthy RBs).

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

White and Johnson certainly have pulses

and are a shade more respected coming in than the Pakibomb. My fear is that one could turn out to be Brinson II

"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants

by Kluginator on Jul 11, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Johnson and Brinson were both from Florida, and both have had knee injuries, right?

Yikes.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's a bit of a stretch.

Brinson had a host of injury and illness issues almost from the day he arrived on campus, unfortunately. Johnson has had one ACL injury as a HS senior and was reportedly just fine, health-wise, last year. That knee injury could very well be the only problem he has at Iowa (yes, I know, AIRBHG, whatever).

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hope you are proven correct.

I just thought those two similarities were pretty eerie.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Both Johnson and White are

more similar in size to Robinson but speedier. Brinson, if I recall, was a bit taller but lighter.

"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants

by Kluginator on Jul 11, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

They're running backs from Florida who suffered ACL injuries.

I think that’s coincidence more than anything.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also, both of their last names end in "nson."

IT’S GETTING SCARY YOU GUYS.


"Oh, glorious cheeseburger, we bow to thee. The secrets of the Universe are between the buns."

by Bucketochicken on Jul 11, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

"-inson," even

HOLY SHIT, YOU GUYS

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait, I was thinking of A-Rob for some reason instead.

Nevermind. I’ma go back to thinking about loose meats.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's just the football induced PTSD talking.

Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 11, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't be a Betty White!

Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.

by EnergizerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a shame

even at UCF, Brinson hasn’t been spared from the injury bug (tore his ACL last fall). And the reports on him out of high school were that he could have been a very, very good back. Was largely ignored until his senior year, then put of amazing numbers and got some attention from the big Florida schools.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jul 11, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea, felt pretty bad for the kid when that happened

transferred out, seeing no playing time in sight, only to have that happen. Definitely wish him the best of luck and hopefully he’s able to come back from it.

"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe

by Brock8144 on Jul 11, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

We are doomed

"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants

by Kluginator on Jul 11, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Decent, maybe, but chances are we'll need more than decent if we want Iowa to have a good season.

No slight intended to Wegher or A-Rob — they were both called upon to perform a lot as true/redshirt freshmen and they did as well as they could — but Iowa didn’t have a stellar running game in ’09 or ’10.

2009: Iowa ran for 1485 yards on 3.3 ypc. In terms of yards, they ranked 9th in the league, ahead of only Indiana and Minnesota. In terms of ypc, they also ranked 9th in the league, ahead of just jNW and Minnesota.

2010: Iowa ran for 1929 yards on 4.3 ypc. In terms of yards, they ranked 7th in the league, ahead of PSU, Minnesota, and Indiana. In terms of ypc, they ranked 7th in the league, ahead of jNW, Minnesota, Indiana, and PSU.

For a team that wants to run the ball as much as Iowa, that’s not very good. 2009 wasn’t as smoke-and-mirror-y as 2004 (871 yards, 2.0 ypc!) but they were only within shouting distance of a Big Ten title because of an all-world defense that made tons of plays. In 2010 the running game was better, but also aided by a QB putting up some of the best numbers in the last two decades as well as two of the best receivers we’ve had at Iowa in ages (if not ever). Time will tell, but my gut says that the 2011 team won’t have the benefit of a QB putting up numbers like that (god bless Vandy if he proves me wrong) or a dynamite receiving tandem like that (again, god bless Keenan if he puts up DJK/McNutt numbers), nor will it have an all-world defense like 2009 (or that we might have had in 2010, until injuries reduced the linebacking corps to a bunch of infants). Which says to me that we need serious production out of the running game. I think that’s possible with this line AND Coker; I’m less sure if we lose some of the faces in that combination (particularly Coker).

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, I used "decent" for this reason.

2009 A-Rob and Wegher were basically just replacement-level RBs IMO. I think Wegher had a ton of upside for the future, and I liked Hampton far more than either, but none of those three have the potential of Mssr. Coker. It will be interesting to see what an excellent back can do behind such a great O-Line. Shonn Greene is an example of what can happen, I suppose, and that kind of thought makes me crap my pants in excitement.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I read excitement

as excrement. Just thought you would like to know.

We're gonna go America all over their asses!

by ninerhawk on Jul 11, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Makes all too much sense, really.

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 11, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good stats

Important to note the difference between a good and a great running back. I would contend that the OL was of comparable quality in 2008 to ‘09/’10. A-Rob and Wegher seldom Duong’d anyone and then rumbled for a long gain.

You can’t just put any guy back there. A good RB doesn’t fumble and gets enough yardage to keep the opponents’ defense honest (A-Rob, Wegher). A great RB makes the first guy miss and gets to the second level, as well as doing the above (Greene). They’re producing offense themselves as well as making it easier for the rest of the offense to run off their threat.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull." - W.C. Fields

by rockyh on Jul 11, 2011 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Wegher could have been a great back

not in the mold of Shonn Greene, two totally different body styles. But he was a true freshman forced into a lot of game action before he was necessarily ready. A couple years with Doyle would have done him wonders (and I think would have paid off last year, alas).

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jul 12, 2011 2:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe

His running style reminded me of Steve Slaton. He wasn’t so fast he could outrun anyone on the field, wasn’t strong enough to run anyone over, but had good vision and that deceptive ability to change directions at full speed. But he lacked the wiggle to get through traffic like really good smaller backs have. Great in the open field, but Wegher went down at first contact almost every time if the hole wasn’t wide open.

Thing about Wegher though, he was already going to elite athletic trainers and doing plyometrics in high school. I’m not sure that Doyle would have transformed him so much as just built a bit on an already solid foundation. He might have gotten a bit stronger and shaved a tenth of his 40 time, but he wasn’t going to come out the other end a completely different physical specimen like some guys do.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull." - W.C. Fields

by rockyh on Jul 12, 2011 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Iowa is not far off from the college-version of the Denver Broncos.

We’ve had plenty of productive backs (even for short periods), that probably could have had excellent years if they had good health and status as a feature-back.

LaDell Betts, Aaron Greving, Fred Russell, Jermelle Lewis, Marques Simmons, Albert Young, Shonn Greene, Damian Sims, JeVon Pugh, Jewel Hampton, A-Rob, Wegher, and now Coker. I think all could have (and some did) run for 1000 yards in a season.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 12, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Greving made me think of Kent Kahl

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz

by Blackheartnopants on Jul 12, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only problem Betts had

was playing for Iowa teams that had turnstile-like offensive lines.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jul 12, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

This

I loved Betts, mostly due to the fact that he ran as hard as any back you’ve seen, despite having nowhere to go when he did so

"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe

by Brock8144 on Jul 12, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Betts was an excellent back. He made yards even when there weren’t any.

If i made a list of the best RBs of the Ferentz era, Betts is second only to Shonn Greene

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull." - W.C. Fields

by rockyh on Jul 13, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree that Wegher

almost always went down on first contact but I was also impressed that he rarely went down on his back after said contact. He was one of those guys you could count on to fall forward for an extra yard. An impressive skill for a slightly undersized back. I had a major man-crush on him and feel robbed that we won’t get to see what he could have done.

He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!

by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jul 12, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

plus he had really good hands

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Jul 12, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

We're Iowa!

Ergo we should always be anxious about the RB depth situation.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jul 11, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel good about this year's starting O-Line,

but I don’t really have any idea how good any of the backups are.

I am haunted by the memory of 2009 at Wisconsin, where we could run left all day, but we got stuffed nearly any time we tried to run right.

Also, it will be interesting to see what kind of blockers we will have amongst the running backs. We seem to have a ton of possible FBs, but it would be really nice if they can help keep Vandy from getting killed. Because, especially come Big Ten season, I have a feeling we could see plenty of blitzing.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of which...

Am I correct in believing that the Hawkeyes have 3 running backs and 7 fullbacks on the roster?

"An out of context quote to support my world view." -Some Dead Guy

by Scumdog0331 on Jul 11, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think so. There was a post a few days ago about the new EA video game roster,

and here is what I found on the hawkeyefootball.com site:

Half Backs:

Marcus Coker

DeAndre Johnson is #30, and that is roughly his size (5-8, 210).

Jason White, #3, 5-10, 205 lbs.

Marcus Binns, #40, 5-11, 190.

Fullbacks:

Mark Weisman, #28, 6-0, 225.

Matt Meyers, #35, 6-2, 215.

Scott Covert, #36, 6-2, 245.

Brad Rogers, #38, 5-10, 215.

Jacob Reisen, #41, 6-2, 231.

Cameron Olson, #45, 6-1, 232.

Jonathan Gimm, #92, 6-3, 240.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow..

I knew there were a lot of fullbacks after roster moves in the offseason, but I threw “7” out there as a joke number, trying to be funny…

Iowa Football, where reality trumps your lame attempt to by funny every time.

"An out of context quote to support my world view." -Some Dead Guy

by Scumdog0331 on Jul 11, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also...

How many do you think were TEs in high school?

Tight End Voltron…ASSEMBLE!

"An out of context quote to support my world view." -Some Dead Guy

by Scumdog0331 on Jul 11, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure,

but Gimm was a TE even here at Iowa. Didn’t play there much, but…

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

There will be three more halfbacks when the freshmen are added, though.

McCall, Canzeri, and Bullock will all be there.

That is a shitload of fullbacks, though.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

foreshadowing a change in offensive philosophy

Has KoKaine had a full blown meltdown and is attempting to transition the iowa offense into a Wishbone or Wing T based offense?

impossible is nothing

by RGates on Jul 11, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's it!

We couldn’t use the Wing T until after Evy died. Just like naming the street after him. Now we can ride the Wing T to another Rose Bowl victory!

by PackerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Coach Kirk Ferentz is a GENIUS!

Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 11, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't O-Line

really THE main reason for optimism this year? I’m excited about Coker, I think Vandenberg can do the job, and Hyde, Prater, et. al. are back, but O-line has usually made the difference. If Coker has holes to run through and Vandenberg has time to get comfortable, we can play ball control while the defense gets sorted out.

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by Mr. Grizz on Jul 11, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess I don't remember Watt doing anything against Reiff last season

Actually, I didn’t think Watt was all that impressive against Iowa

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by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 8:59 AM CDT reply actions  

i remember him being in the back field quite a bit

As well as a huge goal line play. But I was in the student section that game, so I will be the least surprised of anyone if I’m recalling that incorrectly.

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by sailorjerry on Jul 11, 2011 9:21 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

blocked extra point

That would be the “something near the goal line” memory my rum infused brain vaguely held onto, but was trying to bury deep in the valley of discontent (fling with most of junior high) after our one point loss…..

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by sailorjerry on Jul 11, 2011 9:27 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, I remember he blocked a FG, but I didn't think it was a very good kick anyway

He also had that sack on Stanzi at the end of the game, but Stanzi basically tripped over Watt as Watt was lying on the ground.

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by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed, Watt wasn't impressive against Iowa last year.

I don’t remember him being effective against either Reiff or Zusevics. His sack on the last drive was extremely fortunate.

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by Nickhawk08 on Jul 11, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think I saw an episode of Iron Chef

where someone made rum-infused brain.

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by rockyh on Jul 11, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think that was an episode of "This Old House" showing how to make homemade leather

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by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, the YEStea girl is back.

Monday’s already off to a fine start.

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by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 9:14 AM CDT reply actions  

can we swap nestea and lake girl for gatorade and soccer?

As it will be the only effective marketing with females for the near future #neadzmoarhopesolo

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by sailorjerry on Jul 11, 2011 9:59 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Data

I’d like to see that google trends for image searches of hope solo since Saturday #justgoogleimagesearchedhopesolo

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by Scumdog0331 on Jul 11, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also

The picture makes me kinda sad.

by mikjones24 on Jul 11, 2011 9:33 AM CDT reply actions  

On this depth chart? Yeah, maybe.

I’m not saying it’s going to happen, but when you combine the number of underclassmen and walk-ons with Ferentz’s oddly mediocre track record with highly sought-after linemen (Doering and Larsen, and that’s just off the top of my head) it’s ever so slightly disconcerting.

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by Patrick Vint on Jul 11, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Can we add Dace to that list?

He was pretty damn good when healthy. Not sure how many players make all conference playing half the conference games. But overall he was kind of a disappointment given his inability to stay healthy.

Also, there has been at least one successful case, Bulaga was pretty highly regarded IIRC.

by PackerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the whole "highly-rated OL don't always work out at Iowa" thing

is more of a function of the coaches being able to coach up the guys who weren’t highly rated. And also, a function of the staff being able to get good players who the recruiting services dont’ love.

I hope it’s not a function of “the highly-rated guys don’t work as hard.”

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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's a function of "recruiting services don't know jack about O-Linemen"

They primarily rate on size and what they look at as “light feet”. They have zero insight after that, and to be fair it’s hard to see which 240lb-ers will grow into great 300lb-ers. I’ll trust that Ferentz, Bielema, and the like know OL recruiting far better than Scout, Rivals, or ESPN ever will.

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by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it might be a 50/50 thing

Iowa OLine practices are not what you would call “diverse.” You have to be a mentally tough “grinder” to succeed in the system. A lot of highly touted guys got by on being physically superior in H.S., and a lot of less touted guys are motivated to prove their worth. Donal might be different, since he came on so light (I think 235ish).

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by Scumdog0331 on Jul 11, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

You must have him confused

Donnal was listed around 285 IIRC when he came in

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by Brock8144 on Jul 11, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I thought he was close to ideal size coming to Iowa.

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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was disappointing that we didn't get more out of Dace, but I think he goes in a totally different category than Doering, Larson, etc.

When Dace played he was very, very good. Unfortunately, injuries prevented him from playing much at all.

I think Mike Jones goes in the success category, too. I recall him being a 4*/high 3* guy and while he was never excellent at Iowa, he was always solid and a 3-4 year starter here, which is nothing to sniff at.

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by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dace played early, and often

He was just hobbled by truly grisly injuries to his knees. Remember, at one point KF was talking about just trying to get Richardson back to having a decent comfort in life, his career in football was OVER. One year later, he was starting again at guard (2009) before the injury at MSU. A real tragedy because that kid was good and determined.

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by HoyaGoon on Jul 11, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea

that was truly incredible. I remember when all of a sudden people were talking about him getting a RS year and playing again, which, by all accounts, seemed impossible. I realize he was quite slow, but I’m surprised he couldn’t stick in the NFL at guard.

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by Brock8144 on Jul 11, 2011 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think there was no chance of the NFL for him

all those injuries send up too many red flags for teams and slowed him down enough that he couldn’t catch on as a free agent signee.

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by HoyaGoon on Jul 12, 2011 2:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Blake Larsen suffered too many injuries too

As a counterpoint to Doering, may I also add:

Rafael Eubanks
Marshal Yanda
Bryan Bulaga
Mike Jones

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by rockyh on Jul 11, 2011 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we want to get technical,

wasn’t Eric Steinbach reasonably-highly-rated, as well?

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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Recruited as a TE.

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by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 11, 2011 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Come on dude

The idea that there’s something magical about recruiting stars that makes it impossible for Ferentz to coach guys with 4 or more is incredibly silly, especially considering the sample size is really tiny. Doering’s biggest issue is that he was constantly hurt. Richardson was great when he healthy, Bulaga was awesome, Mike Jones was solid, Eubanks was solid, etc.

Donnal has been in the program for all of a year, and still has four seasons of eligibility left. If he doesn’t play it will probably be because some of the lower rated guys exceeded expectations, but he’ll have plenty of chances in the future for battle for at least a guard slot.

by NorseHawk on Jul 11, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I kind of go both ways here.

I see what you’re saying and agree that it’s way too premature to label him a bust — so far the only chances he’s had to crack the two-deeps are last fall and this spring. At the very least, we should see how things pan out this fall and next spring to get an idea of his progress.

On the other hand, there is something to Pat’s point about Iowa linemen tending to generate buzz early. At the very least, they tend to be turning heads in practices or there’s some scuttlebutt from “inside sources” or I-Clubs or what have you. And, thus far, I think there’s been virtually no chatter about Donnal, especially in comparison to some of his peers (like Scherff or Boffeli). That doesn’t damn him to obscurity or a life outside the depth chart, but it’s at least an early warning sign. Or maybe he emerges this fall as a fixture in the two-deeps and we can forget this conversation ever happened.

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by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

hehe
I kind of go both ways here.

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by ninerhawk on Jul 11, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, but

pretty often we hear “buzz” about players that never really pans out, either. Orne is a great example; as is Brad Herman who got a lot of praise for a number of years, but is going to see significant time for the first time this year. Sometimes, development isn’t a straight-line upward: a player gets much better early on and looks to have a great trajectory, only to stall out or reach his max early and never take that final step.

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by HoyaGoon on Jul 11, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, very true.

I’m still waiting for James Townsend to shatter the Iowa receiving records.

I would counter by saying that it’s hard to think of many highly-ranked offensive line recruits who failed to generate early buzz but turned out well anyway… but it’s not much of a sample size to work from, so it’s not really an argument worth making. As always, we’ll just have to wait and see.

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by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Zusevics?

He was “only” a 3*, but he was a high 3 with a bunch of good offers. And I don’t remember hearing anything about him once he got here until he was suddenly starting.

Also on Orne, I don’t think he gets that much buzz aside from Morehouse’s weird crush on him.

by NorseHawk on Jul 11, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's just cruel bringing up Townsend

As for Donnal, I agree with the idea that the clock is now ticking and if he’s still buried down the depth chart after next spring’s practice then it will be time to get concerned. Until then, however, it is all speculation.

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by HoyaGoon on Jul 11, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll agree that we shouldn't give up on Donnal yet

and I don’t think anyone is. But I think you’re also overstating the accomplishments of some of those guys. Doering was just bad. Hurt often, but wasn’t any good when he was in there (pretty sure he started the 1st game his senior year, then didn’t see the field again). Eubanks was very good as a sophomore, then didn’t seem to do any more (lost his center job to Bruggeman his senior year, but did win a starting guard position on a thin line).
All in all, I’m not sure what it means exactly, other than I don’t get too freaked out when we don’t get highly rated linemen. Ferentz’s track record is pretty good in that respect.

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by Brock8144 on Jul 11, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you mean Bruggeman's senior year?

Because I thought he lost it to Bruggeman and then started at C again the year after Bruggeman left. Eubanks’s career always seemed strange to me: highly recruited, starts his freshman year but during a really bad time for the offense, never really dominates, loses his job to Bruggeman, then comes back and finishes out quietly.

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by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 11, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

But you can’t fault a guy for losing his spot for a year to a late blossoming NFL caliber guy.

I lost touch with he and his sister (who I was friends with) when I left the state (right before Robbie went to Iowa) but I got to know him when he was like 10 or 11 (up through his high school years), and even back then he was ate up with football.
I don’t say that to name drop (I don’t still talk to him or anything), but to convey that he had a mind for football (student of the game, or whatever) and once his physical attributes were there he wasn’t going to be stopped.

Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 11, 2011 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know how you can say Doering was bad when he more or less never played

His development was absolutely destroyed by injuries. Every single year he missed a significant portion of camp or the season with something. He was bad in his one game in 09, but so was everyone else in that game. He was okay in 07 when he got some time late in the season, and was supposed to start the next year, but then he got hurt again. The guy never got a chance to get going.

As for Eubanks, as SJP noted, you’re wrong. He played fairly significantly every year and was always pretty solid, if not spectacular. Yeah, he lost his job to Bruggeman, but Bruggeman in 08 was one of the best linemen of the Ferentz era (certainly the second best center after Nelson) so I don’t think there’s any shame in that. He still got some time at guard, then got the center job back the next year and played fairly well.

by NorseHawk on Jul 11, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't call me dude, bro
Doering’s biggest issue is that he was constantly hurt.

No, he sucked. He wasn’t that injured, he wasn’t that banged up, he wasn’t a battle wagon. He sucked, OK? He was a five star lineman, and he started one game as a senior before being lapped by a redshirt freshman. He sucked.

Eubanks was solid, etc.

I agree, but better offensive line observers than me don’t, and one of those was Kirk Ferentz himself, who basically threw Eubanks under the bus for two seasons (benching him for one). Word was that Eubanks’ lack of progress really irked some people.

Look, our “tiny” sample size is 12 seasons worth of linemen, and the fact is that the vast majority of the best linemen at Iowa under Kirk Ferentz were lightly recruited or converted from another position. Bulaga is an exception, sure, but he’s also the only four-star tackle that has ever made it to the top of the depth chart at that position for an extended period (though I concede Richardson would have played RT forever if he’d have been healthy). Blake Larsen was the best offensive line prospect in the NATION and never played a down. Tyler Blum was a four-star TE/OL type and ended up playing baseball. Chris Felder never saw the field and left in two years. Mike Jones was a pretty damn good guard, but he never really made it as a tackle (where he was recruited).

And Dan Doering sucked. I mean, really.

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by Patrick Vint on Jul 11, 2011 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder if some of the characteristics that result in one being a highly rated

high school o-lineman can get in the way of being a good lineman at Iowa. In high school, the huge planet eaters are going to get a lot of attention, but these guys might not always be the best guys for a zone blocking scheme. Just wonder if this has anything to do with Ferentz having relatively more success with the guys who come in a little undersized, but have technique and can learn the blocking system.

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by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think there's something to this.

And I swear this conversation’s been had here before, or maybe at HR, but probably here because I remember it being level-headed. Something along the lines of rating HS linemen is difficult and flawed and/or rating HS linemen from the midwest is flawed.

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by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 11, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is absolutely true

This doesn’t mean that highly ranked lineman will definitely suck or that Iowa can coach them

by NorseHawk on Jul 11, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't Bruggeman's knee go ker-splodey before the '07 season?

I’ve always heard that if he’d been healthy then he would have started over Eubanks then, too. As it was, we just had to delay that change until 2008.

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by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are correct, Ross

Knee injury in 2007 kept him out until 2008. I want to say he hurt it in fall camp of 2007, but I’m not 100% on that.

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by Nickhawk08 on Jul 11, 2011 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think it was fall camp.

Because there was already talk of him taking the starting job and then he got hurt.

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by RossWB on Jul 12, 2011 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sooooooooo....

Did Doering suck, or what?

Iowa. The only school to inspire fights about offensive linemen.

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by Blackheartnopants on Jul 11, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, we are O-Line U.

As working on our repuatation as TE U.

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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Doering is the proof that recruiting services are spotty, at best

Of all the class of 2005, Doering was the only consensus 5* and the one labeled “can’t miss”. Moeaki and Richardson were generally considered to have more upside, but Doering was the one who supposedly was NFL-ready before he landed on campus, at least to the recruiting services, only needing 3 years to get the experience before moving on (always projected out as a guard, however). Which shows you the value of "can’t miss’.

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by HoyaGoon on Jul 12, 2011 2:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

But he was so big! And he played basketball so he's athletic!

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by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 2:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sort of an aside to all this

I remember a few years back, Michigan had, I believe, 2 highly-rated tackles coming in that were freshmen. One of whom was Dann O’Neill (who has since transferred to Western Michigan), and I’m pretty sure the other has transferred out as well. In any event, I read something from a scout or opposing coach or something who attended one of their practices, and apparently O’Neill was constantly fucking up in drills and was weak as sin. Basically, there was no way he was a BCS-caliber football player. I guess this is a roundabout way of saying, yes, when it comes to OL, the scouting services have no idea how to judge these guys.

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by Brock8144 on Jul 12, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

See above for my thoughts on Doering

And when I said it’s a small sample. I mean that we have had very very few highly rated linemen (or highly rated players at any postion), so it’s hard to say anything. Most of our best players have been lowly rated because most of our players in general have been lowly rated. And anyway, I think the success of those guys says way more about the coaches’ ability to spot and develop talent than it does the inability of highly ranked players to succeed at Iowa.

I think you’re wrong on Eubanks, and I don’t think him losing his job to player as good as Bruggeman is “throwing him under the bus”. Tyler Blum wasn’t really an offensive lineman. Larsen was an outright bust.

Again though, none of this means that guys who get 4 stars are suddenly going to be terrible at Iowa. The idea that stars on a website prevent a guy from performing is ridiculous. Thankfully the coaches agree, since they continuet to recruit the hell out of highly ranked kids year after year.

by NorseHawk on Jul 11, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you about the larger sample size of lower-rated players

But there are plenty of schools where those players may become starters, but not standouts. The fact of the matter is that plenty of those guys come through Iowa and turn into all-conference and All-Americans. That is first and foremost a testament to those guys to bust their asses to make it that far, and secondly to the coaching staff.
As for what it means in terms of why some (I hesitate to say “many”, because I don’t feel like going through it in my head) of the more highly-ranked guys don’t pan out? I have no idea.

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by Brock8144 on Jul 11, 2011 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Larsen was a bust no doubt

and so was Doering. But, I seem to recall that Doering’s career and development was hindered by a clown-car of injuries/illnesses throughout his time here. He obviously never developed into a starter – just watch the UNI game for reasons why – but that always seemed due more to his complete inability to stay healthy.

Not ready to write off Donnal yet, but he’ll have to make some moves this year and next spring.

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by HoyaGoon on Jul 11, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

In my dream world, Iowa fires Ferentz (To be replaced by, like, Bob Stoops?) and Penn State hires him as their line coach.

This is our current offensive line staff at Penn State:

I utterly hate them!

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by ReadingRambler on Jul 11, 2011 9:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Actually that may be last year's line.

From left to right: Johnnie Troutman, Doug Klopacz, and Stefen Wizniewski.

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by ReadingRambler on Jul 11, 2011 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Come on, man.

They have a bit more flair than that. Didn’t one of them make the funny “I have Clayborn on my phone so I can keep track of him” joke?

Let’s get a cooler pic for them. Something like this:

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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think I see your problem.

You’re playing guys with names like “Johnnie Troutman” and Iowa’s playing guys with names like “Woody Orne.”

You tell me which one sounds more badass. (HINT: it’s not the guy who sounds like he should be recurring character on Spongebob.)

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by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Johnnie Troutman?

Sounds like that guys’ parents were preparing for the birth by getting stoned and watching Rambo.

mother: “Honey, pass me those funyons. What name should we pick for the kid?”

father: “Well, this colonel in this movie seems like a strong leader. And John Rambo is very badass. Let’s go John Troutman.”

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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll have to disagree.

First of all, Spongebob is awesome. I am not ashamed to admit that.

Second of all, Johnnie Troutman sounds like he would be a special forces fish. Obviously!

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by ReadingRambler on Jul 11, 2011 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did you read my comment before you found that photo,

or do we just both have Rambo on the brain?

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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do you get Rambo on the brain

from reading too hard too fast during summer break?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 11, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I haven't been reading too hard or fast, so...

I bought a bunch of books, and I think I’ve read a total of about 50 or 75 pages of them. Pretty unimpressive, really.

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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think McCann't was making a Reading Rhabdo joke.

Your max out is high
Push it up to the sky
Your muscles shook, your brown wizz looks
Like you’ve got Rhab-do
YOU’VE GOT RHABDOOOOOOO

Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 11, 2011 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 12, 2011 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ser Troutman sounds like

he could cut off your manhood and feed it to the goats

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by Kluginator on Jul 11, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

my wife curses everyone on BHGP

I am now 5 days in and midway throw Clash of Kings. It is kind of like Lord of the Rings but with blowjobs

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by Kluginator on Jul 11, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Clash of Kings is my favorite of the series so far

I heard that Dance with Dragons is really great and a good ending of the chapter combined with Feast for Crows

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by ClaybornSmash on Jul 11, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I liked "Jerking the Jesters" best.

/sorry, I had to make fun of this stuff.

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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

10 point power-sword to my neck.

Ouch.

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by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's nerdy. Take a joke about it.

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by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought nerdy was cool on here

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by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes. And quite joke-worthy.

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by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think that McCann't was referencing Chazz's thread-jacking

from later on in the post as opposed to being defensive about the amazingness that is Song of Ice and Fire

"He lowballed us and said: 'Take it or leave it. If you don't take our offer, you are rolling the dice.' I said: 'Consider them rolled.' " - Jim "Huge Brass Balls" Delaney

by ClaybornSmash on Jul 11, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

This.

But we can read…very, very long books…about dragons.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 11, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

and blowjobs

"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants

by Kluginator on Jul 11, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

So that is what "The Fountainhead" is about

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

TWSS

"West Texas seems to be full of fake boobs providing a comfortable shade for well-developed pot bellies" - Lycurgus (06/24/2011)

by BStylin Hawkye on Jul 11, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, there's a lot of that.

A Storm of Swords might as well have been double entendre.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 11, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

And incest

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz

by Blackheartnopants on Jul 11, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought it was some of both of those, Clayborn.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Chazz, you’ve done a remarkable job of late in reforming your (online) persona. You grate on people much less frequently and seem to have generally learned an acceptable stance on the issues people had with you previously. Part of that change has been you being quick to apologize when people point out a faux pas, but at a time like this one I think McCann’t unfairly singled you out and you just apologized out of reaction even if you weren’t wrong. To be fair, you brought that on yourself with past behavior and people read you differently than if, say, bucketochicken had made the same joke.

I don’t really know where I wanted to go with this rant anymore, just trying to defend Chazz I guess.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I definitely have no problem with threadjacking

whether intentional or unintentional. I was merely trying to clarify McCann’ts position as it seemed that some people were taking it solely as a response to a critique of a nerdy topic, which is not the way I took it at all.

"He lowballed us and said: 'Take it or leave it. If you don't take our offer, you are rolling the dice.' I said: 'Consider them rolled.' " - Jim "Huge Brass Balls" Delaney

by ClaybornSmash on Jul 11, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nerdy topics cannot be vanquished by criticism

but can only be defeated by Ice Giants during the fiery hell of Ragnarok

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Basically, I was watching the Dan Patrick Show

at about 10 or 11 AM (there just wasn’t much else on at that point), and heard that 16 guys had dropped from the MLB all-star game. So, I mentioned it, hoping to get some thoughts from others.

I did, including Norse getting a bit angry about it. After that, I think McCann’t was just kind of joking with me, and so, I kind of joked about his apparent fetish for fantasy literature.

It was all in good humor. Except for NorseHawk. Fuck that guy.

/no, not really, Norse. You’re OK, I’m OK?

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like Chazz no matter what

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks, man.

You’re cool, too.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

You and Ly ruined the sanctity of internet marriage.

Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 11, 2011 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't ruin shit

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Playing the unknowing wife

Come on, you were aware of his actions even before you were married.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did Rambler get a bottle of Templeton Rye as a wedding present?

No? Yup, you ruined everything.

Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 11, 2011 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you talking about previews?

I didn’t think Dance With Dragons came out until the end of the month. A Storm of Swords is jaw-dropping.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 11, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I saw a review of Dance with Dragons from a blogger who got an advanced copy

It was pretty spoiler free and didn’t include too much specific information beyond what GRRM has already said publicly. Basically the gist of it was, “very similar to Feast for Crows in that it is brutal to the characters and completes a lot of the stories that were sort of left open at Feast’s conclusion”

Also, I meant to type Storm of Swords as my fav… I’m in the middle of about 4 different series and getting the names and order of the individual books messed up all the time.

"He lowballed us and said: 'Take it or leave it. If you don't take our offer, you are rolling the dice.' I said: 'Consider them rolled.' " - Jim "Huge Brass Balls" Delaney

by ClaybornSmash on Jul 11, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

There is a singular event in that book

that left me angry for a good day afterwards. By book 4 there are so many characters that Martin essentially had to make the decision to make no. 5 the other side of the same coin by focusing on those off-stage for no. 4.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 11, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I remember you saying something about this singular event in Book 3

And since I’m about mid-way through (around page 500) I’m curious if the event you’re talking about has passed or is yet to come.

by Captain n Diet Coker on Jul 11, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

McCann't, I think DWD just came out.

Heard a review on NPR on the way home.

A month ago I wouldn’t have paid much mind, but I watched the first season (back to back to back) a couple weekends ago, and now I’m hooked and a little miffed that the reviewer told me a few bits about the other books.

Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 11, 2011 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

I just got my “your order has shipped” email from Amazon.

Now I just have to finish Books 2-4…


"Oh, glorious cheeseburger, we bow to thee. The secrets of the Universe are between the buns."

by Bucketochicken on Jul 11, 2011 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, looks like it was a busy day of bringing my name up while I was at work.

I’ll now have to buy a hardcover, which I hate, but my hatred of delayed gratification is even more fierce.

Chazz, I’m glad you’ve figured out when I’m giving you a ribbing and when I’m actually lashing out at you (but tRCN’s defending your honor was precious). For the record, Dune, LOR + The Hobbit & this series is all the sci-fi/fantasy I’ve ever read. Truth be told, I’m kind of a nut about Faulkner.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 12, 2011 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh my do I hate Faulkner

My precosity was apparently early and a little misplaced, as I found out after reading the rest of the comments and hearing from other commenters, but I stand by the sentiment.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 2:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

*subject and post unrelated

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 2:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

The South lost.

So he sucks. Yeah, end of story.

"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter

by ReadingRambler on Jul 12, 2011 7:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just don't care what you have to say.

I guess. It’s a subconscious thing. Don’t blame me. Blame my brain.

"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter

by ReadingRambler on Jul 11, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

What is it with you and giant pictures today?

Also, this is a trout:

This is orne(ry):

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Celebrating nerds, indeed.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Giant pictures?

Those people look rather small. Now these two, on the other hand…

BOOM 4-3 cover 2! Deal with that!

by 99playsNAblitzaint1 on Jul 11, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is a very Kluginator-type post

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I resemble that remark.

"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants

by Kluginator on Jul 11, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hodor, Hodor, Hodor

"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants

by Kluginator on Jul 11, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz

by Blackheartnopants on Jul 11, 2011 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why are those men wearing dresses?

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull." - W.C. Fields

by rockyh on Jul 11, 2011 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

"U kulle rah doe kankee kung."

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull." - W.C. Fields

by rockyh on Jul 11, 2011 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

do either of those two play basketball?

with three years of eligibility I bet KF could make O-Line starters out of them.

"Sometimes the truth gets in the way of a good story" - KF

by The Bacon Explosion on Jul 12, 2011 7:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe Roller Derby?

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 12, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's not them

I believe you at least have to swipe a card/pay money to go through those turnstiles. Not sure the PSU line even puts up that much resistance.

by PackerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

JoePa won't let them violate NCAA rules like that.

Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 11, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

You shall not pass... oh, I'm sorry, I didn't recognize you Mr. Daniels, go right ahead

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, God, it's terrible.

"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter

by ReadingRambler on Jul 12, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bad jokes happen sometimes

to some of us, fairly frequently

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey!

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was talking about myself

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes I know. Bad joke about making bad jokes fell flat. Not a huge surprise there

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

My density has attained new weights in smaller volumes

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man did I hate thermodynamics.

It’s the reason I quit Engineering school. Horribly and intensely uninteresting.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I barely struggles through...

That and Mechanics of Deformable Bodies were the two worst core classes for Engineering.

"He lowballed us and said: 'Take it or leave it. If you don't take our offer, you are rolling the dice.' I said: 'Consider them rolled.' " - Jim "Huge Brass Balls" Delaney

by ClaybornSmash on Jul 12, 2011 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I missed your meaning then, sorry

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

He lost a rough final game to this guy

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the Romans were eating a lot of lead at this point

so it could have been any kind of pathology

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rambler wants to know where he can get an awesome hat like that

or possibly he already has one

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's got a great name to go with that hat.

Kinda like a Flavor-Flav and DeVries mashup.

There's something about orange soda that is deeply satisfying.

by Loosemeatsammich on Jul 11, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Figures

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fun story:

My grandfather has two boxes for the local bluebirds. One year some tree swallows started bothering the bluebirds after the bluebirds had already built their nest and laid their eggs, etc. Granddad drives the mower up to the swallows, they don’t leave. Granddad walks up to them, they don’t leave. Granddad then goes in the house, walks upstairs, retrieves a .22, walks right up to the swallows, they still won’t leave. He shoots one dead and watches with contentment as the rest fly away.

Personally, if they had been house sparrows or starlings (Non-native), I would have applauded his actions. As is, I was ambivalent. When I explained to him that tree swallows are a protected species, he said he didn’t care, and that he was tired of watching them screw with the bluebirds, and they were so stubborn they deserved it.

The moral of the story is that when a stubborn German meets a stubborn animal the German will win because he has a gun.

"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter

by ReadingRambler on Jul 11, 2011 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holy shit, that is one hell of a fun story!

Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.

by EnergizerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am cautiously optimistic

for this season. We all know that the Iowa offense goes the way of the offensive line and I think this is a really good group. Even though we are breaking in a new QB I have more confidence in the O than the D at this point. I just need to see those linebackers step up and get a stop on 3’rd and 6 vs. a team like jNW before I believe.

He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!

by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jul 11, 2011 9:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Yes.

We need the LBs to play decent-or-above pretty much all year in 2011. Somebody the other day, talking about our new D-Line recruits, said that Morris was being set up to become the new Iowa career tackles leader. I’d be cool if he got about 140 tackles this year within about 3 yards of scrimmage.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ross, maybe my comprehension skills are lacking, but do you have 3 guys competing for one guard spot?

If not (and I’m sure you don’t), can you please clarify for my monday morning brain which two you think will get the guard spots?

Thanks

by PackerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 10:01 AM CDT reply actions  

I believe

that it is Gettis and MacMillan at the start of the year with Scherf expected to replace Gettis by the end of the year.. or MacMillan if he gets hurt.

He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!

by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jul 11, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

A RS frosh taking over for a senior by the end of the year?

What, did Kirk Ferentz die in mid-season?

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

What?

He leans towards young guys at the start of the season but there are roughly a million examples of young guys eventually moving up the depth chart as the season goes along.

by NorseHawk on Jul 11, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think KF and staff tend to give the older player a lot of chances.

I’m not sure how many chances Gettis has had, but I’m pretty sure he has more game experience than Scherff.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Which is probably why Gettis will start at the beginning of the season

That doesn’t mean Scherff won’t play later on. It would not be at all unusual for Ferentz to give a young guy a shot later if he consistently outplays the older guy in practice or the older guy struggles. It’s happened a bunch of times in the past.

by NorseHawk on Jul 11, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

All signs indicate Scherf is heir-apparent

to the title of Next Great Iowa Tackle (NGIT? das racist?). I would be pretty surprised if he didn’t play a substantial role this year. Also, forget where I heard it but someone apparently coaxed out of Coach Morgan that Ferentz, not Reiff, is actually the best current lineman on the team.

I will haunt your dreams and eat your children.

by Dr. Hawk on Jul 11, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I read that too

But Coach Wilson saying it at an I Club function in DC. There was a long, but very informative, post about it on Hawkeye Report.

by Captain n Diet Coker on Jul 11, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Forgive me but

has James Ferentz yet even reached the level of play that we saw from his brother?

"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants

by Kluginator on Jul 11, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Has Reiff reached Gallery or Bulaga levels?

Also, it’s possible Coach Morgan was speaking based on spring practice and what they think they have in him for this season.

by PackerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I LOHL'd.

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 11, 2011 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did Morgan have his nose

firmly fixed in Kirk’s asshole when he said that.

"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants

by Kluginator on Jul 11, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Considering I've heard people not affiliated with the Iowa coaching staff say similar things, probably not.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you mean Patrick, not me.

But I think KegStanzis summed it up well: Gettis and MacMillan start in September, but Scherff muscles his way in there at some point.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm...that has me thinking

Do you think Scherff moves to RT if Zusevics goes down?

We're gonna go America all over their asses!

by ninerhawk on Jul 11, 2011 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scherff or Van Sloten would be my guess, yeah.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 12, 2011 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

If MacMillan can stay healthy

I think he’ll be a force on the line. As it is, he’s only a sophomore, albeit a redshirt.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jul 12, 2011 2:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

It’s more likely that Gettis gets replaced for performance-based reasons than MacMillan, I’d say.

Unfortunately, neither guy has been terribly durable so far at Iowa, so that might be another way for Scherff to get on the field.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 12, 2011 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm going to threadjack:

I just heard that 16 guys have already said they won’t play in the MLB All-Star game tomorrow.

Now, I’m guessing many are pitchers. But, wow. That’s a lot of guys who are hurt, or just pitched a couple days ago, or just don’t want to play.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 10:26 AM CDT reply actions  

For fuck's sake

Also start a fanshot instead of derailing threads, that’s what they’re there for.

by NorseHawk on Jul 11, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Settle down, guy.

You’ve been a little angry lately. Don’t take it out on me.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think 99% of the problem is

that you declare you are, in fact, threadjacking. If it occurs organically, as the vast majority of tangents do on BHGP, you’re in good shape.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 11, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, maybe.

I guess I was just looking for others’ thoughts on the matter. And as long as I don’t get really abusive with pics and gifs, I doubt Vint will care that there could be an extra 10 or 15 comments on this post.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

"refer" you back. Need more coffee!

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 11, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

As a person who used to put up several random shitty summer fanposts,

I guess I wanted to avoid getting into that habit again.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I love your random shitty fanposts

"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants

by Kluginator on Jul 11, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't encourage me.

I’m more machine than man, now.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

This.

Something like a small MLB tangent is better as a quick thread here than a fanshot, IMO.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

You want a tangent?

I’ve watched more live soccer in the last year than I have baseball.

I’ve come to realize I’d rather watch almost any kind of soccer than I would baseball.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz

by Blackheartnopants on Jul 11, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same here.

And I’ve probably only watched a total of an hour or so of soccer. Maybe two.


"Oh, glorious cheeseburger, we bow to thee. The secrets of the Universe are between the buns."

by Bucketochicken on Jul 11, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am very surprised this did not lead to a large soccer tangent.

Very.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Odd thing is, I don't hate baseball

I think soccer is interesting on so many more levels.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz

by Blackheartnopants on Jul 11, 2011 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't hate horse racing or boxing

I’d just rather spend my time with football and basketball.

THIS IS HOW IT HAPPENS

We’re through the looking-glass here, people.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's be honest

When done properly, horse racing, like all motorsports, like all sports really, is simply fantastic.

"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter

by ReadingRambler on Jul 11, 2011 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's the opposite of "simply fantastic"?

That is what I would use to describe all motorsports.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Just like Aunt Selma


"Oh, glorious cheeseburger, we bow to thee. The secrets of the Universe are between the buns."

by Bucketochicken on Jul 12, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

/opens gas valve

/tries to light cigarette

Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 13, 2011 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I've really started to dig soccer of late.

Hockey too. Which is basically the same thing, but on ice, and with sticks instead of feet.
And fighting instead of falling down for no apparent reason.


"Oh, glorious cheeseburger, we bow to thee. The secrets of the Universe are between the buns."

by Bucketochicken on Jul 11, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Um
And fighting instead of falling down for no apparent reason.

And it will stay that way unless the Brazilians discover a love of hockey.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jul 12, 2011 2:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Italians and Spanish are the worst at this

"He lowballed us and said: 'Take it or leave it. If you don't take our offer, you are rolling the dice.' I said: 'Consider them rolled.' " - Jim "Huge Brass Balls" Delaney

by ClaybornSmash on Jul 12, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Brazilian women, it seems.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz

by Blackheartnopants on Jul 12, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that was crazy

normally Brazilians aren’t that bad

"He lowballed us and said: 'Take it or leave it. If you don't take our offer, you are rolling the dice.' I said: 'Consider them rolled.' " - Jim "Huge Brass Balls" Delaney

by ClaybornSmash on Jul 12, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baseball is atrocious.

I’d rather watch that show that Fran What’sherlastname was in where she played a maid to some English guy or some bunch of crap like that.

But soccer will always be…blah to me.

"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter

by ReadingRambler on Jul 11, 2011 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

No.

Probably scrapple > soccer

"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter

by ReadingRambler on Jul 11, 2011 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

But baseball was openly played by soldiers during the Civil War!?!

You’re not who I thought you were…

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 12, 2011 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or just read one of the articles on various websites about it

5 pitchers started Sunday and are automatically out. Then it’s mostly injuries beyond that.

by PackerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who made you King of The Internet?

It's so sad how a family can be torn apart by something as simple as a pack of wild dogs.

by FiveSecondRuleChef on Jul 11, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Now, I'm not gonna tell the internet king what to do.

But he’d look really righteous if he shaved the beard part off and just left the Yukon Cornelius mustache.

Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 11, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll take "Non-controversies I don't give a fuck about for $500," Alex.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't give a fuck about any baseball discussions.

Baseball is going the way of boxing or horse racing as a failing “America’s sport”

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's more than remotely true.

It’s not “completely” true at this point, but it’s happening.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baseball is way above those other two

It will never be what it was at its height, but millions still pass though the gates every year. The MLB Atbat app sells like hotcakes as well.

Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.

by BoiseHawk on Jul 11, 2011 1:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

We'll just have to agree to settle this bet in 30 years, I suppose

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll be the bank if you guys want

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nobody trusts a Danish banker

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Delicious

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am actually listening to Danish Christmas music right now on iTunes

I got tired of my Civil War playlist

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe you to actually have both of these.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh no, I'm not getting married to you.

I’ve seen how that ends. You’re tainted goods at this point.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

That wasn't a proposal.

I am somehow tainted by a fictional marriage I never agreed to. RAMBLERRRRR!!!!!!!

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Provide a link that proves you never agreed to it.

If our marriage was a movie, it would be Suspicion. Only the ending wasn’t half as bad as the claptrap forced on Hitchcock.

"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter

by ReadingRambler on Jul 11, 2011 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are impossible

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fun fact:

My friends and I always referred to Burge Hall as The Clap Trap.

Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 11, 2011 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I <3 MLB At Bat

Mostly because I <3 <3 Bob Uecker and now I get to hear him call almost every Brewers game. And if I ever wanted to, I could listen to every team’s flagship station call their games. I cared less about MLB before I bought At Bat.

by PackerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baseball's demise

will not happen for awhile. The Baby Boom generation (or at least the men) more often than not cares about baseball. People are still taking their kids to baseball games. There are plenty of minor league and amateur leagues that still draw people (just not in huge numbers).

Now, if people stop taking their kids, or if baseball experiences more cantankerous labor strife, then we could be in the beginning stages of a steeper decline of baseball. But it will take plenty of time.

A big part of this is that baseball has an established season where not much else is happening (boxing doesn’ have that, and horse racing doesn’t have enough big events to make you care much beyond the Triple Crown). And, when they do have competition (late in the season, mostly from football), they can play on weekdays, so they can always keep plenty of eyeballs.

Finally, baseball has done just barely enough (and I really mean the minimum) about the steriod issue to keep it a slightly family-friendly game. Boxing and horse racing have always and will always have enough gambling and seedy atmospheres to make them less kid-friendly.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't really watch or care for baseball right now. Don't really have a team.

When I’m 60, I’m going to start intentionally developing a love for baseball. I’ll start following a team from each league (on each coast) carefully. That way, if I every am not physically able to golf or do something worthwhile, I’ll be able to spend 3-6 hours most days watching something I’m passionate about.

My grandfather’s love for baseball, and his daily card game with the other dudes in his retirement center, have literally made life bearable for him.

by The Final Gun on Jul 11, 2011 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whatever it takes, man. Just saying, when it hurts to move, and eyesight/hearing make most activities unpleasant, being

able to watch a a game that I care about would be such a gift. I was once talking to my grandpa about his team (the St. Louis Cardinals) and he said that he felt the same way watching those games as he feels watching Iowa football (he loves Iowa football). FOR EACH GAME! That’s 161 games a year where your emotions are passionately contingent on the outcome.

by The Final Gun on Jul 11, 2011 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

162

And at that age I’m sure keeping up with the stat, if he does, helps him flex his brain muscle. Nothing wrong with that.

by Carfino'sWay on Jul 12, 2011 7:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

163 if you're a Twins fan...

You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Jul 14, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't forget the exactly 4 playoff games

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 14, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

i grew up in Wrigley field

the old man would give me a buck
i would take the L down, get in eat a dog and come home
i proposed to my first wife in the bleachers
i got thrown out calling the owner of the tribune a bum
the day after he traded Buckner
Old man Wrigley gave SRO passes if you played HS ball in Chi
and we used them to see 51 games in 1969
when i moved to Ohio i would rent a room
and take my daughter to cincy
to watch the cubs when they were in town
and then there was 91
fuckcing greedy bastards
i have been to one game since
and have not watched an innning on the tube
is it ok if i say Fuck Basemall?
or do you want to know how i really feel

Long Live the Pellican Whore - like FOREVER

by OhioHawk on Jul 12, 2011 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Do you mean "greedy bastards" in '94, because of the strike?

Or am I missing something?

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 12, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

B-b-b-b-b-but Jeter got 3000 hits!

And on a home run, no less. And went 5-for-5 in the game! Clearly that is the most important sports story of the year!!!

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jul 11, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry, but the Women's World Cup Quarterfinal was more interesting.

SRSLY, how fucking ridiculous was that victory? Take that Marta and you silly Brazilians.

by PackerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just an amazing game

And fuck Jeter. I really can’t stand how he constantly gets extra credit, just for being a Yankee

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jul 11, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

This, oh my gawd, holy shit, this.

I mean about Jeter, I am not interested soccer, men’s or women’s. Glad you all enjoy it, though. Carry on.

by Carfino'sWay on Jul 11, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't watch it

I don’t carry a tv while I’m hiking, probably would lead to a lot of injuries. But reading the recaps and watching highlights still gives some of the amazingness that apparently happened.

by PackerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

The women's soccer win was fantasmic

and Doering did suck. I recall Hayden bringing in some can’t miss studs that missed. I am sure it happens to everyone if they have coached long enough. As my stock broker e-mails always say (in fine print buried at the bottom) Past Performance is No Guarantee of Future Results

"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants

by Kluginator on Jul 11, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Best game of soccer I've ever seen

That game had everything you could possibly want in a sporting event.

"He lowballed us and said: 'Take it or leave it. If you don't take our offer, you are rolling the dice.' I said: 'Consider them rolled.' " - Jim "Huge Brass Balls" Delaney

by ClaybornSmash on Jul 11, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

except Dan Gable

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was there.

You just had to squint.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jul 11, 2011 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

My idea of an ideal sporting event.

This combined with this combined with this combined with this combined with this combined with this combined with this (Yeah, I’ll give that sport some love) combined with this combined with this combined with this combined with this combined with this combined with this.

"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter

by ReadingRambler on Jul 11, 2011 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

You made up for all of the racing links

with your last link

We're gonna go America all over their asses!

by ninerhawk on Jul 11, 2011 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unless you're talking about NASCAR.

Because NASCAR hasn’t been that good since before my memory.

"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter

by ReadingRambler on Jul 12, 2011 7:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I actually don't mind road races

but I cannot stand NASCAR.

We're gonna go America all over their asses!

by ninerhawk on Jul 12, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

They lost me when they changed from racing regular car bodies

and changed to chassis that were much different from the actual model they were supposed to be. So, you know, right around when I was born.

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 12, 2011 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, something like that.

Plus the screwjob they pulled on Awesome Bill from Dawsonville.

"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter

by ReadingRambler on Jul 12, 2011 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm gonna say this about Van Slotan

This guy would absolutely have been a 4-star recruit had he come from a large market school and not from a school that competes with the likes of Waukon and Cresco. I ran into him the other day at Fareway and he’s an freaking truck.

He could absolutely see the field this year and impress.

by BraveHawk on Jul 11, 2011 10:41 AM CDT reply actions  

With a name like Van Slotan

he should be killing vampires in his free time.

"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants

by Kluginator on Jul 11, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thread Jack Alert! Van Helssing (spelling?)

Kate Beckingwhateverhernameis……………… Hot! in that movie.

It's so sad how a family can be torn apart by something as simple as a pack of wild dogs.

by FiveSecondRuleChef on Jul 11, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

In fairness,

have you seen a movie yet where Kate Beckinsale wasn’t hot?

Because I haven’t.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Touche'

But Christ Almighty! The costumes they had her in for that film….wowza! I almost became a full time stalker over that show. I still keep it to nights and weekends.

It's so sad how a family can be torn apart by something as simple as a pack of wild dogs.

by FiveSecondRuleChef on Jul 11, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn't she dressed similarly (as she was in Van Helsing) in all the Underworld movies?

And frankly, I think she looks hot in about anything.

Modern casual:

1930s Movie Star:

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Underworld they had her with kind of a Goth look. It worked.

But in Van Helsing she was in Corsets and tall leather boots. GRRRRR!

It's so sad how a family can be torn apart by something as simple as a pack of wild dogs.

by FiveSecondRuleChef on Jul 11, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mostly because

she’s hot

"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe

by Brock8144 on Jul 11, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

How are the previous three great ones? Gallery, Bulaga and....???

Yanda?

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Jul 11, 2011 10:57 AM CDT reply actions  

I was at that game.

The replay was better than the actual play. Because everyone watched the replay and the entire stadium went OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

by mikjones24 on Jul 11, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was an existential moment at Kinnick

"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants

by Kluginator on Jul 11, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

meh, unsuspecting crack-back blocks are overrated, fairly dangerous and pretty unnecessary in their violence.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Jul 11, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Head on a swivel, bitches.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

legal in college, not in the pros

and it’s not as easy as “head on a swivel” – that’s simplistic

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Jul 11, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know if it was simplistic or not

but that was one epic hit. I don’t think I would characterize it as “meh” or even as a standard crack-back block since he he disengaged from his initial contact then sprinted 15 yards into the back field to make a very clean and solid hit on a closing defender that sprung the play for an added 10 yards at least.

"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants

by Kluginator on Jul 11, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

very clean and sound because the guy wasn't looking

look, as a 15-year-old freshman, i permanently hurt my friend’s spine, in practice, on a perfectly legal and sound block similar to that one.

It’s too violent and leads to serious, serious injuries. Which is why it’s outlawed in the NFL.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Jul 12, 2011 5:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe.

But, in high school, we were taught to yell “crackback” if we saw it coming.

If you go 5 or 7 yards deep in the offensive backfield, you better be expecting to get blocked or held by somebody, otherwise you are stupid.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ding ding ding! We have a winner.
If you go 5 or 7 yards deep in the offensive backfield, you better be expecting to get blocked or held by somebody, otherwise you are stupid.

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 11, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't imagine a testosterone driven late teen/early 20 something football player will ever ease up for a hit on the opposition.

I think many coaches would pull them for not giving 100%.

“But coach, I didn’t want to HURT him.”

Yeah, those words will never come out of a D1 OLineman.

Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 11, 2011 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying you're wrong per se

it’s just against their nature (and years of training to KILL KILL KILL).

Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 11, 2011 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

These are elite athletes. They will train their way into the new instincts.

Look at how NFL players are way more careful about hitting people near the sidelines. Seriously, it’s been a complete change in the last few years.

by The Final Gun on Jul 11, 2011 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's pretty ignorant of reality...

… it’s taken awhile, but spearing has largely left the game, even in high school. Cowboy collar tackles are in the middle of leaving. TheNFL outlaws it first and it usually trickles down. Sometimes it goes the other way. But these things are not some inherent part of our nature that can’t be overcome by learning.

Change to the rules,education in the locker rooms (posters), contant vigilance from the referees (and educating them), coach’s clinics to describe the danger and a better way of doing it.

obviously it takes awhile, but if a team is constantly getting 15 yard penalties every game, I bet the coach teaches them soon enough. And I bet the dumb 17 year olds learn shortly after getting pulled for costing their team yards. It will still happen, but with a lot less frequency.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Jul 12, 2011 5:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

With a rule change? Yes.

I just meant they aren’t going to hold back of their own volition.

Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 12, 2011 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Personal foul - He hit the guy too hard"

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 11, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, there's no way you could ever have a penalty like that.

“He hit the guy to hard” — that’s too prolix. Let’s go with “Unnecessary Roughness”. Now that I think about it, you’re right, I’m crazy.

by The Final Gun on Jul 11, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

That was fantastically worded. Rec.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

okay, and when you convince me all high schoolers are of equal awareness and abilities...

…not to mention that all high school coaches (and earlier) teach these principles, I’ll see how this comment is relevant. OMG, I’m not offended by that racist joke because my parents told me to not to be. Why is anyone else offended?

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Jul 12, 2011 5:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

How = Who

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Jul 11, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, Yanda

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Jul 11, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I step out for a second

to go get some nestea and I miss over 100 comments. I love this place

He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!

by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jul 11, 2011 12:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Again. Grizz for DT. Make this happen.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz

by Blackheartnopants on Jul 11, 2011 1:39 PM CDT reply actions  

I was thinking we could use some more depth at FB, actually.

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 11, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm actually surprised it's not deeper.

If you’re a HS OL prospect you’d think Ferentz is written in Sharpie and circled and underlined at the top of your list.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think we've had this discussion before

Usually around oversigning and the desire for a national championship over the potential to build a sound foundation for the NFL.

by PackerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll help you out.

Kids are dumb.

Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.

by EnergizerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

How did I not come up with this comment?

Seeing how I was, at one time, a dumb as shit 17 year old boy?

"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe

by Brock8144 on Jul 11, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

In fairness, there are plenty of dumb girls that age as well.

Boys just tend to be more outspoken (and physically competitive with each other), so the dumbness is very apparent.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Girls are pretty stupid from pre-teen through teen and some into their 20s.

You’ve seen the music those girls listen to. Sad thing is they are one of the demographics advertisers cater to.

BTW, my sister might be getting me New Kids on the Block/Backstreet Boys tickets. Twelve year old me couldn’t be more excited!

by Carfino'sWay on Jul 12, 2011 7:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I saw New Kids on the Block a few years ago

and Lady Gaga opened for them before she hit it big (and the show was a couple days after the 2008 Iowa-Penn State game that I also went to, so that was an awesome weekend). You will have all sorts of fun. They put on a great show, and it really takes you back to when you idolized them as a young girl.

by Captain n Diet Coker on Jul 12, 2011 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I saw them at Carver the summer b/w 7th and 8th grade, I think.

The concert was postponed from the winter b/c of a huge snowstorm. Sadly by the time summer rolled around I was no longer interested buy my parents told me I had to go. I’m glad I did I had a great time, I think it was my first concert. I hope my sis comes through with these tickets.

by Carfino'sWay on Jul 12, 2011 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I remember that concert

A friend of mine was supposed to go to it (and yes, he was a guy; and yes, he was mocked mercilessly for it). I remember that when it supposed to take place in the winter, it was a HUGE deal; but, by the time summer rolled around, it was almost an afterthought because NKOTB’s popularity had plummeted so drastically.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jul 12, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

My stepsister just went to that show.

She raved about it in a very high-pitched voice.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm 26 and would argue that many girls my age are still stupid

but then that may be just me

"He lowballed us and said: 'Take it or leave it. If you don't take our offer, you are rolling the dice.' I said: 'Consider them rolled.' " - Jim "Huge Brass Balls" Delaney

by ClaybornSmash on Jul 12, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

It isn't just you

but what do I know, I am still pretty dumb myself

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

My Dad is a moron.

I only realized this just like three years ago, man, but my Dad is a total moron and he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. I’m never listening to him ever because he’s such a total moron.

"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter

by ReadingRambler on Jul 11, 2011 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Samuel Clemens said it best.

“When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished by how much he’d learned in seven years.” — Mark Twain

by Lukateake on Jul 11, 2011 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

How is that random?

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps he is saying any random Twain quote will brighten his day.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

If by random, you mean

unexpected, but perfectly appropriate.

by The Final Gun on Jul 11, 2011 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm still waiting for Gookin to chime in on this.

Defend your honor!

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is probably busy getting distracted by a boob

and following it home

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Nolan MacMillan... undersized?

6’6" 290 lbs is undersized? That’s big enough to play any position on the offensive line.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull." - W.C. Fields

by rockyh on Jul 11, 2011 4:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh nevermind

you were talking about his first season.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull." - W.C. Fields

by rockyh on Jul 11, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I realized that joke failed as soon as I typed it

needs a follow up “that’s RB size up there with Bielema’s gravy and cheese diet”.

by PackerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

....wrapped in bacon

We're gonna go America all over their asses!

by ninerhawk on Jul 11, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

They wrap their running backs in bacon?

No wonder they’re hard to bring down.

Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 11, 2011 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gravy AND cheese? I'm listening.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz

by Blackheartnopants on Jul 11, 2011 4:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Reply fail

But poutine FTW. Learning of that deliciousness might have been the best thing I saw during NBC’s coverage of the 2010 Winter Olympics. It certainly wasn’t the men’s hockey championship (shakes fist in the direction of Pittsburgh and then Canada, $#%#*$ Crosby).

by PackerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go back to Canada, you hoser

Get some Ketchup assholes. Canadians drive me crazy, eh

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate ketchup

Which my family doesn’t understand (and they all look at Heinz bottles to see if they were made in Muscatine (WTF? is it Muscatine day in my head or something?(I have no idea why everything relates to Muscatine today.)))

And poutine is just fucking delicious.

by PackerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, it is okay.

For whatever reason, I don’t like having to request ketchup when I am in Canada. They want to put weird stuff on their steak, but don’t put ketchup on their fries. They are weird.

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm weird then too

Mustard on fries, and basically everything you freaks who like ketchup enjoy ruining with bland, sugary tomato goop.

by PackerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will accept you because you are an Iowa fan

I find that I can overlook all sorts of deviant behavior if that one characteristic is present

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

besides

you’re the one who puts GO BIG RED colored sauce on their food. Traitor.

by PackerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

+ one million internet points for Boetje's Mustard.

And I’m not a big ketchup fan either.


"Oh, glorious cheeseburger, we bow to thee. The secrets of the Universe are between the buns."

by Bucketochicken on Jul 11, 2011 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Except

As good as the Boetje’s is, it’s not yellow. Maaaaybe you could get away with “old gold” but it’s brown.

by PackerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ketchup only on hot dogs and "stock" burgers

i.e. cheddar or “American” cheese, onion, pickle, ketchup, mustard… if there’s any veggies or other toppings, no.

My mother puts ketchup on everything (bratwurst, steak, grilled cheese sammich, eggs). I’ve learned to dislike it on most things, luckily.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull." - W.C. Fields

by rockyh on Jul 13, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is it worse than the ISU yellow you put on your fries?

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

My ex-girlfriend (from Muscatine)

always looked too. It got a little annoying.

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it a point of pride that it's made in Muscatine

or is the Heinz from Muscatine to be avoided?

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 11, 2011 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jinx

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Point of pride

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

So one of the 57 is meth?

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz

by Blackheartnopants on Jul 11, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's a joke somewhere in here about DiMaggio not eating enough greenies to get to 57

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think a lot of the ketchup packets are made in Muscatine

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ketchup is vile

and cities who insist on putting said condiment on their hot dogs are cretins.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 12, 2011 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

What about eggs?

It is a family trait to put ketchup on eggs. I like ketchup, mustard and relish on my hot dog. I feel the other two cancel the ketchup out.

by Carfino'sWay on Jul 12, 2011 7:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

My Dad Taught

me to put ketchup on my eggs and i have passed that down to my son. Ketchup on scrambled eggs is very tasty.

For the posts above about ketchup on fries: I would rather have ranch dressing on my fries.

Formerly known as SpoWAHawk
TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin
I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! - Jim Zabel

by IAHawkfan4life on Jul 12, 2011 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

How about salt on an apple?

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Salt on a tomato is a favorite snack for a friend of mine.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sugar on the tomato, on top of cottage cheese.

Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.

by EnergizerHawk on Jul 12, 2011 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

HOLY SHIT!

I thought my mom’s family (Ainsworth, IA) were the only ones to put sugar on cottage cheese!

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 12, 2011 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, to be fair, the sugar is on top of the tomato, which is then on top of the cottage cheese.

In other news, the fly got eaten by the spider who then got eaten by the bird which was then eaten by the cat and then a dog caught the cat, a goat caught the dog (which I don’t understand how that happened, but anyway), and then a cow got thrown in there to catch the goat. Apparently all this was going down in some old lady’s tummy, all because she swallowed the fly. Dumb old lady.

Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.

by EnergizerHawk on Jul 12, 2011 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, perhaps she'll die.

"West Texas seems to be full of fake boobs providing a comfortable shade for well-developed pot bellies" - Lycurgus (06/24/2011)

by BStylin Hawkye on Jul 13, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's how my grandpa rocked the tomato.

Except for the cottage cheese part.
 
And now he’s dead.

Is there a connection?

No.


"Oh, glorious cheeseburger, we bow to thee. The secrets of the Universe are between the buns."

by Bucketochicken on Jul 12, 2011 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I like salt on tomatoes, but my dad loves to sit down

with a granny smith apple and a salt shaker. I just couldn’t cotton to that kind of snack.

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes!

Salt on an apple, sugar on a tomato, and pepper on cottage cheese.

All my good friends at BHGP helpled pick this most awesome name!

TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin
I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! - Jim Zabel

by Bloodpunch's Barbasol on Jul 15, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree.

But my friend and I were discussing dressings, and how there’s French, Russian, Italian, etc. dressings, and we agreed it’s about time we just started calling ranch “American dressing.”

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 12, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

I pretty much only use ranch dressing on lettuce salad or maybe carrots and celery.

I don’t much like it on anything else.

Maybe a dill and ranch dip on potato chips.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 12, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

For the first time

I disagree with you therealCatnuts.

Ranch is a heavenly blessing, almost as good as mana. Ranch on french fries, hot wings, salads, vegetables, potato skins, sometimes pizza, and fried mushrooms is so good.

All my good friends at BHGP helpled pick this most awesome name!

TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin
I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! - Jim Zabel

by Bloodpunch's Barbasol on Jul 15, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

no Ketchup on eggs

or anything else for that matter. Tobasco is the best on eggs.

He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!

by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jul 12, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

This

But with Frank’s or Cholula instead of Tabasco

by PackerHawk on Jul 12, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will not disagree with either of those choices

Though personally it is probably Tobasco, Cholula, Franks.. in that order.

He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!

by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jul 12, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Trader Joe's Chili Pepper Sauce.

Try it sometime, better than all the above.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Imagine that, I'm going there tonight after work for groceries

If it’s good, I’ll let you back in the license plate loop.

by PackerHawk on Jul 12, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm back in!

(I’m very confident of this)

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is very good advice...

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 12, 2011 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

homer


"Oh, glorious cheeseburger, we bow to thee. The secrets of the Universe are between the buns."

by Bucketochicken on Jul 12, 2011 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I must admit that I am a TJ convert since moving out here

I do about 100% of my shopping there. And sometimes I even think of Kyle (not in that way you pervs). However, they do have a really bad pun mural on the front of the store. The store is a mile from Valley Forge and there’s an image of Washington saying “Martha would leave me out in the cold if I didn’t bring home Trader Joe’s”. uggh

by PackerHawk on Jul 13, 2011 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't you have a $20 jar of cashew butter to sell?

Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to figure out a place to park.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 13, 2011 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holy Jeebus, the parking.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 13, 2011 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Our local one is so bad

that we drive to the one that’s, like, an entire 4 blocks further in another direction. (they’re quite ubiquitous in L.A. One of this city’s few redeeming qualities)

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 13, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Salsa verde.

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 12, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does the Tabasco Verde or Cholula Verde count?

Or do I have to take the time to roast my own chiles to make a proper green chili?

by PackerHawk on Jul 12, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can also buy salsa verde

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

This.

I made an awesome little batch of chilaquiles or migas this morning (can’t remember which is which and too lazy to Google (I am quite lazy today)). Lightly fried some corn tortillas in vegetable oil, tore them up, dumped salsa verde and a pat of butter on them in the pan, heated up and stirred, added three eggs and some sea salt, stirred and cooked for a bit, then topped with shredded sharp cheddar. Highly recommended.

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 12, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Amazing to think that most Mexicans are overweight.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is that true?

or just the most racially questionable thing said on here since yesterday.

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have no idea if it's actually true

But it certainly appears so in L.A.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

It just sounded like the type of thing

that a guy who was paid to carry Mexicans around all day might say

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can carry so many at once. They're Fun-Sized!

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is this a job?

What a country!

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz

by Blackheartnopants on Jul 12, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, but only Guatemalans are willing to work

cheap enough to be hired

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will say this much

My home here in PA is apple country. As such, there was a large migrant community from the ‘50s on. Now most of the Hispanics (Probably 80%+ Mexican, with the rest Puerto Rican) are assimilated and there isn’t any tension or anything, but I can say that while they’re generally not overweight, the Gothic lettering and Catholic depictions in car rear windows are quite widespread.

"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter

by ReadingRambler on Jul 12, 2011 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't phrase that properly

They don’t seem to be any more overweight, on average, than the white folks.

"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter

by ReadingRambler on Jul 12, 2011 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Most Mexicans in the U.S. anyway.

And by “most” I mean “some or more than some, based on my observation, but a lot of them might not even be Mexican in the first place and oh hey who’s uncomfortable?”


"Oh, glorious cheeseburger, we bow to thee. The secrets of the Universe are between the buns."

by Bucketochicken on Jul 12, 2011 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes it is true
More than 71 percent of Mexican women and 66 percent of Mexican men are overweight, according to the latest national surveys.

(from 2008 SD Union Tribune article)

Only the second-fattest nation in the world. USA #1!!!! Whoo!!!

This despite Mexico being only the 34th-ranked country in McDonalds per capita and not being in the 18 highest soft drinks per capita countries

Lastly, Hispanic (mostly Mexican) Americans have a significantly higher rate of obesity than whites , apparently even despite controlling for socioeconomic factors

All that to confirm what all of you already knew was true but felt compelled to jump down my throat about. Happy?

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 13, 2011 2:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't jump down your throat

I didn’t have any opinion about the relative obesity of Mexicans prior to your comment, having never really thought about it.

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 13, 2011 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not so much you.

got a little too worked up about this last night.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 13, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, okay.

Got confused because or your reply to my post.

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 13, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, wasn't sure of the best place to put it

I thought we were on the same jokey wavelength on this one, but I had a couple responses to that comment that tried to call me out for insensitivity.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 13, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was joking. So you know

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 13, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

So we can't blame McDonald's and soft drinks?

Take that Eyeheart. Maybe a diet heavy in starches and fats could be a factor. I guess you can become overweight if you fry and add lard to things at home… (broad generalizations, I know)

by PackerHawk on Jul 13, 2011 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

You can still blame them, that correlation is quite evident

It’s the reason I put that note in there. It’s not only fast food and soft drinks in Mexican obesity, it’s also a function of their ugly starch diet.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 13, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think that’s a problem for any culture where the diet stresses maximizing calories (from cheap grains/starches) in order to do manual labor. When food becomes more abundant and/or you switch to less physically demanding work, it’s easier to get fat.

(I don’t mean to make this sound like I agree with you that Mexicans are overweight.)

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 12, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was thinking similar things.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 12, 2011 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, that is kind of a horrible thing to say and quite a sweeping generalization.

Especially from a guy has called people out for saying things he finds un-PC.

by Carfino'sWay on Jul 12, 2011 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think there is some truth here

Especially for folks born somewhere else who move to the U.S.Buffet.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz

by Blackheartnopants on Jul 12, 2011 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

So this is race baiting.

It is not racism to suggest a poor diet leads to obesity problems, nor is it racism to note that Mexicans tend to have the type of poor diet that leads to obesity.

You’re probably the type of uppity broad that gets mad when I whistle at your nice cans

(for your lack of critical reading skills: That last part is a joke meant to stop me from explicitly telling you to fuck off)

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please point out exact where I said race or racism.

Especially since Mexican is not a race. Nationality yes, race no. I believe it is your critical reading skills that need help, not mine. Could it be that you are projecting your own issues onto my comment?

In the subject line I was pointing out that what you said

Amazing to think that most Mexicans are overweight.

is a horrible thing to say and a SWEEPING generalization. If you would have said “It has been my experience” or “in LA it seems like” I might not have had such a problem with it. Instead you chose to pass your opinion off as fact, shocking because that never happens (sarcasm font).

In the comment section I was merely pointing out that in previous threads you have mistakenly read into other’s comments as being malicious about a hot button topic when they were not. I believe the latest was with a comment of HoyaGoon’s (?) about Hugh Hefner’s sexual choices in the 70’s.

I was surprised by your comment as you are usually so PC. This is not meant in a derogatory manner, I’m just using PC as a general term. My original use of PC probably was derogatory.

Oh, and if you want to tell me to fuck off, do so. Don’t hide behind a stupid sexist comment that you need to explain. If you want to whistle at my jugs have at it, at least then they are being appreciated by someone. They are something to behold.

by Carfino'sWay on Jul 12, 2011 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Best ending ever
If you want to whistle at my jugs have at it, at least then they are being appreciated by someone. They are something to behold.

He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!

by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jul 12, 2011 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Well played, CW. Well played.

CW, I’ll reply more fully when I have time, hopefully later tonight.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

CW and I have had the pleasure to meet.

I can’t recall her eye color.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 12, 2011 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are all making me LAWL.

Kyle, the first time I read your comment I thought it said eye doctor and I thought, I don’t even remember having that conversation. It made more sense the second time around. What a nice thing to say, if it is true you are very sly b/c I had no idea.

Green, btw.

by Carfino'sWay on Jul 12, 2011 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shhhhhhhh!

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 12, 2011 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

CW

were you at Kyle’s last year for the jNW game?

If you are that CW, then yes I would agree, I didn’t notice your eye color either.

All my good friends at BHGP helpled pick this most awesome name!

TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin
I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! - Jim Zabel

by Bloodpunch's Barbasol on Jul 15, 2011 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would like some sort of visual verification of this
They are something to behold.

"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe

by Brock8144 on Jul 12, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

movies and TV tell me you even got to feel them, you fucker.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 13, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brock only asked for a visual

but I guess if touch is required Packer can take one for the team in October and report back.

/gay’s get all the girls.

by Carfino'sWay on Jul 13, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I only stopped at visual

because I wasn’t exactly sure where the line was, not to mention, as advanced as technology is, I don’t think I can feel anything through my computer screen. Yet.

"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe

by Brock8144 on Jul 14, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even if it's a "Touch" screen?

"West Texas seems to be full of fake boobs providing a comfortable shade for well-developed pot bellies" - Lycurgus (06/24/2011)

by BStylin Hawkye on Jul 14, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

If my feel you mean fondle and giggle, yes

If you mean sleep with my head on a big rack during a bus trip, yes.
If you mean being used to verify a real/salineimplant debate, yes.
Giving a friend a motorboat? yes.
Life is good, or it would be if I enjoyed any of that.

by PackerHawk on Jul 13, 2011 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bahaha, I will give you that I misread this comment

I thought you were saying he needed to feel them to be credible.

Hahaha, I totally admitted it because, in this case, it was true.

by Carfino'sWay on Jul 13, 2011 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

CW

You want to get married?

"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter

by ReadingRambler on Jul 12, 2011 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure she does.

Just not to you.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 12, 2011 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

You didn't answer my tweet the other night

when you told me about your divorce from Ly. I didn’t think you were interested.

by Carfino'sWay on Jul 12, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

fucking homewrecker

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, it was over before I was involved. Don't blame me.

I can’t help it if you can’t keep your man happy and he came running to my ample bosom. I was just there to listen, sometimes these things happen in internet marriages.

by Carfino'sWay on Jul 12, 2011 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good luck

when the conversation turns to college wrestling. Your relationship will be torn asunder.

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

We shall see.

Just think we will be able to get one of those house divided Iowa/PSU wrestling license plate surround things for our buggy. Very exciting.

by Carfino'sWay on Jul 12, 2011 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

That might work

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now we HAVE to be Twitter pals

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz

by Blackheartnopants on Jul 12, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought you were mad at me. I can't keep up.

If you would like to find me I follow both that you mentioned and I am a hotdog w/ relish.

by Carfino'sWay on Jul 12, 2011 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I read that as "hot fetish"

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz

by Blackheartnopants on Jul 12, 2011 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

"I am a hotdog w/ relish"

I have no idea what this means, but I almost want to make it my sig.

Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 13, 2011 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

The facts back up my "horrible thing to say". See above.

My only contrition here: “Race baiting” was a terrible choice of words. Mexican is clearly a nationality and not a race, but “nationality baiting” doesn’t exactly work, and you got exactly the meaning I was going for, so i guess it at least made some sense there. C’est la vie.

I’ve apologized in the past for “stating opinion as fact”, it’s what I do (as does everybody, in differing frequency). No need for me to do so again. Maybe I’ll point it out next time you do it? And again, this one I am correct on, so I’ll accept your apology when you’re ready.

Hugh Hefner comment: It was ckmneon, not HoyaGoon, and I thought it was an offensive joke about gays. When clarified by ckm we moved on. Next time do the same for me when my subsequent comments made it clear I was being cheeky and trying to be funny (and again, correct in the initial assumption).

Lastly, I am not PC. I have stated these opinions before to the expected clamor, and hopefully there’s no need to revisit it at this time as it’s merely a background to the argument I’m about to make in the next paragraph: I believe there are inherent differences in cultures, races, and sexes. We are OK with pointing out the basic differences (height, weight, skin color, genetic diseases, longevity, other general non-debatable, measurable statistics). I think it goes quite further from that, from the relatively benign (men are stronger/better at sports (this is apparently not benign to Eyeheart)), to views bordering on racist/sexist (I truly believe that races differ in aptitude for physical activities, and will not be shocked in the future if we find some evidence that certain intellectual aptitudes are also different in the races, though I think it’s ridiculous to think that at this point. )

After that wall of words, here is my point: I have, and will continue to, point out and denounce when I think people are using that type of thought to demean others, intentionally or unintentionally. That is the distinction I make personally, choose whichever line in the sand you want to. And it’s not just internet muscles. I’ve discussed before that I have on many occasions been the voice to shut up the bar or stadium loudmouth making racial, homophobic, or just plain insensitive remarks in general.

So in conclusion, I think your critical reading skills of my persona and my stance on “PC” issues is fuckered*, and I resented you starting an argument on an incorrect basis.

*yeah, I stole it. Big whoop, wanna fight about it?

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 13, 2011 3:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is the last I have to say on the matter.

If you would have actually explained your position instead of insulting me this probably would have been over a lot quicker. However, in what you call your “next comment” you did not “make it clear you were being cheeky” since you insulted my reading comprehension. You can have all the opinions you want and I have every right to call you out on ones that I don’t agree with just as you do to me. This isn’t going to stop me from doing so, nor should it you from doing the same.

I’m not going to go through your comments line by line and discuss them with you b/c I’m sure no one cares to see that. Also I’m pretty sure there is a lot of it that isn’t even relevant to the conversation. I explained my position, you explained yours and we still disagree. So here we are.

As for fuckered? I’m pretty sure I didn’t coin the term so you aren’t stealing anything from me. It has been around for a long time use it to your heart’s content. I don’t know why you are trying to use something so insignificant to bait me into a new fight. Once again, like with the way you chose to tell me to fuck off it isn’t going to work.

by Carfino'sWay on Jul 13, 2011 7:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't picking another fight

I was trying to defuse with humor. Critical reading fail.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 13, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is this chick bothering you?

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 13, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah, she just does a horrible job apologizing when proven wrong on her original point

Typical chick.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 13, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, that isn't going to help things

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 13, 2011 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're impossible.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 13, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I DON'T LIKE IT WHEN MOMMY AND DADDY FIGHT!

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jul 14, 2011 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Catnuts is just having a rough week.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 14, 2011 5:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think

both have made some valid points here and it is tough for me to decide who won. I like the part where neither one apologizes.

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 14, 2011 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

And what is it that makes so many

Iowans Midwesterners Americans overweight?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 12, 2011 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same: increasingly poor diet and increasing lack of exercise

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

And I could rant for hours about much I utterly hate nearly every national politician in this country for the way they’re “handling” the problem, but this isn’t the place.

Whatever. Just exercise continually and try your best to avoid the garbage processed foods.

"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter

by ReadingRambler on Jul 12, 2011 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also, learn to cook.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 12, 2011 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes. Fast food places even put extra sugar in their buns (the bread stuff silly)

in order to more easily addict you to their fare. Notice the sugar crash a while after eating fast (junk) food.

Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 13, 2011 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Eating at any restaurant is almost always worse than any meal at home

Not just fast food.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 13, 2011 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

But I had the most amazing burger last night

Which wouldn’t have been healthy even if I had made it or the sugar coated sweet potato fries with remoulade at home, fyi.

by PackerHawk on Jul 13, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

It would have been relatively less unhealthy, I suppose

But I guess the point of that type of meal is going whole hog. By which I mean you will start to assume the proportions of a whole hog.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 13, 2011 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've been so good lately

losing weight and making tremendous fitness gains. But I have a 3 day backpacking trip this weekend and I’ve splurged once a day this week instead of once a week as normal. I haven’t ordered anything but a salad at a restaurant in so long that a 3 page pub menu was so daunting I couldn’t make up my mind, which is usually not a problem for me.

by PackerHawk on Jul 13, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I always put extra sugar in my Country Time pink lemonade

but it’s not because I’m trying to addict myself to it, it just tastes better that way.

When I was a kid I would usually have a few Cheerios with my bowl of sugar. Also, when given the choice, who the fuck eats regular Cheerios instead of Honey Nut Cheerios?

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt

by HawKCP on Jul 14, 2011 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

HN Cheerios are the best. I like the originals (but its good to chop some banana into it). The apple cinnamon ones are pretty good. I’m not a fan of the frosteds or the multi-grain ones.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 15, 2011 1:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

MASTERCHEF

He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!

by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jul 12, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

aaaaaaaaaand now I want to make it again.

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 12, 2011 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't live as close to the green chile state as you

Not sure what kind of green salsa I’ll find up here.

by PackerHawk on Jul 12, 2011 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

You serious?

Do you have something against canned/bottled salsa? Nothing wrong with some Herdez or Embasa, which is pretty much at any chain grocery store.

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 12, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was a joke

No, I don’t have anything against canned/bottled/plastic tub’d salsa per se, only the shitty brands (you know who I’m talking about).

by PackerHawk on Jul 12, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

You mean the kinds made in New York City?

It is hard to represent the inflection in type. Damn it!

by Carfino'sWay on Jul 12, 2011 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

NEW YORK CITY?!?!?!?!!?

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 12, 2011 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

That really chaps my hide.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 12, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am going to collect plants there in a week or so

I’ll let you know if I find anything worth mentioning

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your type of business travel is so strange to me.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am just going to get in a car and drive until I see

plants I want to kill and grind up

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

So much more normal now.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

There aren't any trees of interest (or any trees)

around Lubbock

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

A lack of trees

would be nearly as depressing to me as a lack of sunshine.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alaska was so much better than this place

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ly doesn’t have problem with lack of sunshine. If it’s anything like what I’m going through it’s 85 degrees at 8 am, 103 degrees at 5 pm, and 95 degrees at 10 pm when I walk our dogs. No clouds. I’m getting kind of tired of this. It’s not even mid-July.

by txhawkeye on Jul 13, 2011 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

It is liking living in an oven

but the dust storms do provide some shade

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 13, 2011 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

You have been very quoteworthy of late

Competing with Mr. Horace E. Cow to make the Bulwer-Lytton contest?

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 13, 2011 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am a fount of one liners

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 13, 2011 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't you mean a bubbler of one-liners?

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 13, 2011 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I want their DNA and I am willing to do

chilling things to get it

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 13, 2011 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hot sauce on eggs and hot sauce only.

I accept ketchup on meatloaf only, but preferably mixed with Siracha.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 12, 2011 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have, like, a friend....

and, like, he’s a cop and he tolds that if we have a mouse in our beer you have to, like, give us free beer.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz

by Blackheartnopants on Jul 11, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

That's not racist. This is racist.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dammit! That's not the first time IE has screwed me on pic size

Come on Chrome, heal thyself so I can go back to our browserest of marriages.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 11, 2011 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chrome works again!

(does happy dance in front of bewildered pet dog)

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 13, 2011 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have to be a contrarian here,

and say that I don’t think I’d like gravy and cheese together. I think either could be acceptable with fries in an individual sense.

Mustard (particularly yellow mustard) is good on fries, on burgers, on hot dogs, on bratwurst.

Ketchup is good, on fries, on burgers, on hot dogs, on bratwurst. But, I need to have mustard on the meats. I can live without the ketchup.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Threadjacker

"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants

by Kluginator on Jul 11, 2011 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

You should try it, but it really needs to be curds

curds on the fries and gravy over the top and it all gets rich and gooey and delicious, not to mention artery clogging.

by PackerHawk on Jul 11, 2011 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Packer you are a friend

but poutine is terrible. I had a friend, who was from Canada, come visit me and they were so excited for me to try poutine on fries. It was so bad I had to spit it out of my mouth and because of it, I am no longer friends with that person.

You would think that gravy on fired potatoes would be good, after all I like mashed patotoes and gravey, I like cheesey mashed potatoes, but for some reason I can’t stand brown gravy, cheese on french fries.

Formerly known as SpoWAHawk
TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin
I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! - Jim Zabel

by IAHawkfan4life on Jul 12, 2011 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, you can no longer be friends.

Or is that only if he spits out your poutine?

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was teasing about not being friends anymore

you knew that though.

Of course you did!

All my good friends at BHGP helpled pick this most awesome name!

TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin
I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! - Jim Zabel

by Bloodpunch's Barbasol on Jul 15, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

What do you call a stocking cap?

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

a stocking cap...

I grew up in Wisconsin, not Canada.

by PackerHawk on Jul 12, 2011 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have a hard time hating on both Canadians and Wisconsinites

Some of the best people on this planet. Outside of Iowa, of course

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I had a horrible girlfriend from Ontario

and she tainted most of the rest of the country for me. I am also naturally distrustful of people who use the term “bubbler” as part of a serious conversation

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

You put your Edds in it.

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jul 12, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haha


"Oh, glorious cheeseburger, we bow to thee. The secrets of the Universe are between the buns."

by Bucketochicken on Jul 12, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a fucking bubbler you damn moron!

Do you need an etymology lesson in that particular colloquialism, or would it not matter?

by PackerHawk on Jul 12, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

It wouldn't matter, goofball.

I have often wonder if there is a tinge of shame when, as an adult, you are forced to use that word in public.

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

None whatsoever. Since it stems from Kohler’s innovation in the world of plmubing fixtures. Just like it makes me happy everytime I use the Kohler faucets and sinks in our bathrooms at work.

by PackerHawk on Jul 12, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ahem

That’s Bubbler™ to you.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

you make me sick

He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!

by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jul 12, 2011 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you don't protect a trademark it loses its exclusivity

/that shit also makes me sick

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am just going to say that I think Dwight Schrute works at Texas Tech

because all the toilet paper here is single ply.

Also, one of the stalls looks like a racoon went in a took a dump. There are a ton of tiny scraps of toilet paper all over the floor and apparently flushing was considered optional.

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 11, 2011 5:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Talk about a thread jack...

But I’m with you. Clean it up, A-Holes, we’re trying to have a society here.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz

by Blackheartnopants on Jul 11, 2011 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh, bad public restroom behavior galls me to no end

Throw your damn paper towel in the trash, flush the fucking toilet (and make sure it flushes), sit on the toilet so you don’t get drops of pee on the seat (and if you do anyway, wipe it the fuck up), etc, etc. It’s the golden rule—leave it how you want to find it!

by Captain n Diet Coker on Jul 12, 2011 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't expect much from varmits

and I am pretty sure that is what used the restroom here yesterday. Either that or an extremely befuddled chemical engineering student.

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can’t decide which to feel worse about. Ok, I’ve decided. In the immediate, I feel bad about the disgusting bathroom. Longer term, I feel bad you’re in Lubbock.

by txhawkeye on Jul 12, 2011 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

They are almost one in the same

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're in Lubbock?

I’m so sorry. I thought the Dallas suburbs were bad.

"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter

by ReadingRambler on Jul 12, 2011 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Living here is definitely punishment for something terrible I did in a past life.

It was likely my support ill-conceived support for the Tarquins

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

You and your science

Next time, listen to the Sibyl

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz

by Blackheartnopants on Jul 12, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

What can I say, I am partial to kings

Numa was a good egg. Eh, the Sabine women made it all worthwhile

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing that in a previous life I was the Duke of Wellington or the Good Samaritan..

Because the 717 is awesome and everyone who doesn’t like it is just an idiot!

"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter

by ReadingRambler on Jul 12, 2011 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would guess you would have been Cicero

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

or Marius

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

it is beautiful there.

But I haven’t spent enough time there out of the mountains to know if I like it or not.

by PackerHawk on Jul 13, 2011 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

You would be appalled at the significantly worse state of public mens rooms vs womens.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry, but there are just some places I'm not sitting on the toliet.

Ottumwa Target for one. Well, actually, anywhere in Ottumwa.

But yes, women’s bathroom behavior is appalling

by Carfino'sWay on Jul 12, 2011 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

No. No. Nope. What?

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why would you think that?

My reply was to The Captain, who is a woman.

by Carfino'sWay on Jul 12, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

My bad

I thought it was to Lycurgus, hence the confusion.

by PackerHawk on Jul 12, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, I knew that was a same sex internet marriage

I wasn’t confused until just now. If I would have hit “up” that would have cleared it up.

by PackerHawk on Jul 12, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't the internet great

it allows same sex marriages without debate by politicians.

What a wonderful internet world we live in.

All my good friends at BHGP helpled pick this most awesome name!

TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin
I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! - Jim Zabel

by Bloodpunch's Barbasol on Jul 15, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Woody Orne went to my high school.

He holds basically all of our weight room records. He has been in Fairfield lifting over the summer, and he makes everyone look like 3rd graders.

One problem. He played TE in high school. And DE. In fact, he wasn’t really a star football player at Fairfield, he was incredible basketball player. He had an offer from Marquette at the time (which was a big deal back in 2008) but chose to play football at South Dakota State. I would LOVE to see him play on the field this season, and I guarantee you pancakes would be everywhere.

Betcha can't handle this 4-3 cover 2, mofos!

by Gookin on Jul 11, 2011 7:03 PM CDT reply actions  

I think I would enjoy an addition of pancakes to the Kinnick experience.

Somebody in the concession business needs to make this happen, particularly for 11 AM starts.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 11, 2011 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm on it!

It's so sad how a family can be torn apart by something as simple as a pack of wild dogs.

by FiveSecondRuleChef on Jul 11, 2011 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure Zusevics is Lithuanian...

And, having been to Estonia, I know that people from the Baltic States HATE being called Russian.

by Swessdawg on Jul 11, 2011 9:01 PM CDT reply actions  

I hear Finns are fond of it

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Winter War

is the most criminally understudied phase of WWII. Seriously, the Finns fought on snowshoes & skis & killed something like 10 Russians for every Finn. Great stuff.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 12, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Simo Hayha

scored 705-0.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 12, 2011 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Daaaaaamn.

They couldn’t even beat his entire jaw.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 12, 2011 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm not down with killing

but that guy’s the awesome-est killer ever.

Sorry if I took a simple quip that was meant as a rebuke for a single-minded poster and turned it into a completely uninteresting and inconsequential tangent.
-McCann't

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jul 13, 2011 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Know why?

Because the Finns then sided with the Germans for a couple of years. No one over there wants to remember that.

"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter

by ReadingRambler on Jul 12, 2011 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why?

Theirs wasn’t an idealist’s alliance but one of survival. This is like the Falkland’s but even less fair and with the Argentines winning (also, the Argentines would have a just cause instead of a junta’s whim but that’s neither here nor there). Russia was (and is) a massive country that invaded an underpopulated, culturally-isolated country for no other reason than that it gained them further access to the North Sea. It’s not like the Swastika was hung proudly on the mantle of every Finn. The Irish sided with the Germans in WWI because the enemy or your enemy is your friend. You can hardly blame the folks.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jul 12, 2011 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know all of this.

I’m not saying it’s fair, but the Finns went from darling of Europe to nearly outcasted when they sided with the Germans. And I think that’s why the Winter War is mostly ignored.

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by ReadingRambler on Jul 13, 2011 7:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Our alliance with the Russians in WWII does kind of whitewash

their own crimes record. The Germans were welcomed like liberators in parts of Eastern Europe and I can’t really blame them after incidents like the Katyn Forest. Obviously, they found out later that it was like choosing between the devil and the deep blue sea.

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 13, 2011 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Some people I knew ...

Wondered why Poland was so eager to give our missle defense progam a go.

And to that I said, “Look at a map. Look who’s to the west. Look who’s to the east.”

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz

by Blackheartnopants on Jul 13, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's a funny comment.

But your mis-spelled version of “program” was so close to “pogrom”, that it is what really made me laugh.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 13, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

It is the Russians they really don't like

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 13, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but Germany really hates Poland, too, right?

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 13, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think so much any more

That old hate was a lot about Prussia being auctioned off

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 13, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

That, and that half the Poles are dead or living in the USA or Israel.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 13, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

In fairness, those guys were poisoning a lot of wells

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 13, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

It is not legal to hate anybody in Germany anymore

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 13, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Turks seem to be fair game

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 13, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

that is a powder keg in Europe right now

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jul 13, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sibel Kikelli, FTW

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

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by Blackheartnopants on Jul 13, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, not really

Sure they’ve wanted some of the land in the past, preferably as Pole-free as possible, but there really hasn’t been any historical antagonism between the two whereas Russia’s rise is closely tied to Poland’s decline, historically.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jul 13, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is a book called "Black Edelweiss"

it is about a waffen-ss officer who serves in Karelia with the Finns. One day the Finns make a treaty with the Russians and the Germans have to walk out of Finland. It is a nice, short book.

"To bottomless perdition, there to dwell, in adamantine chains and penal fire" -Milton

by Lycurgus on Jul 12, 2011 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, but the French sure do?...

West of the Rhein, get it? ok, nevermind

by PackerHawk on Jul 12, 2011 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't recall Gettis sucking last year...

I do remember him getting a lot of playing time until he left the MSU game late with an injury.

by Crush my Battle Opponent's Balls on Jul 12, 2011 8:06 PM CDT reply actions  

I would agree that he wasn't terrible

but I don’t know that he did anything to stand out, either. Not to mention I think I keep replaying the UNI game from 09 in my head, in which he (and, admittedly, the rest of the line), was subpar at best. That said, I’m guessing the projection of Scherff stepping in is more based on their thought that Scherff will turn out to be very good as opposed to Gettis being very bad.

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by Brock8144 on Jul 12, 2011 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

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