No, It's Not Time To Change Iowa's Defense
Ross just posted this in a FanShot earlier today, but I think it's worth a closer look. Bama Hawkeye, who is a fine fellow and a certified Friend Of The Pants, posited that it may be time for Iowa to start transitioning to a 3-4 defense. Bama's reasoning is that Iowa has a glut of talented linebackers (true), a dearth of talented linemen (also true), and lots of opponents who don't run I-formations or run much between the tackles anyway so what's the damn point (also also true).
And it's still a terrible idea.
First off, yes, Iowa's defense underperformed late in games last year. That was primarily a function of a lack of depth--the front four's backups weren't very good, as was the case in the secondary, and as for the linebackers, the backups all became starters. Seven different players started at linebacker over the course of the year (though it might be eight; I could have sworn Ross Peterson started a game, and I only see 38 starts listed between the seven men), and the rotations got so convoluted during the second half of the season that for the bowl game, James Morris started next to two players that had originally been ahead of him on the depth chart at MLB: Troy Johnson and Jeff Tarpinian. So in a linebacker-intensive defense like Iowa's, that lack of stability clearly hampered the cause down the stretch. One would hope that Iowa doesn't experience those types of problems again, and if it does, well, there isn't a scheme in the world that can make up for a defense plain running out of bodies.
The bigger issue, though, is that switching defenses is a huge undertaking. This isn't just a matter of "Hey Shane DiBona you go in and Mike Daniels you go out okay done"; there are pretty specific types of players you need for a 3-4 and for a 4-3, and the overlap isn't that great. You want Iowa to run a 3-4? Who are the space eaters in the middle? Carl Davis is 295 pounds, sure, but he's the only defensive lineman over 277 pounds. And there's precisely zero indication that he's already ready for the big time already.
Similarly, Broderick Binns becomes less useful. He's too small to play DE in a 3-4, and to our knowledge he has only practiced with his hand down at the snap. Binns is actually not bad at dropping into a short zone and using his arms to create disruption for quarterbacks, but a 3-4 rush LB needs to be able to do more than rush the QB and cover the flat occasionally. He needs to be a, y'know, linebacker.
Speaking more generally, the reason you rarely see a major defensive overhaul happen in college football is that unlike the pros, where massive personnel shifts can be (and routinely are) made, a college team has to recruit its athletes, so getting the right players in the right spots and getting them a workable level of experience takes years to undertake. Usually, that transition is pretty rough. Look at how Michigan's defense struggled under Rich Rodriguez, after all. Sure, Greg Robinson is a putz, but the personnel was just never there for Michigan, because they had to recruit it all over again. Now if Brady Hoke scraps the plans RichRod and Gerg had in place, guess what? Back to Square 1! There isn't much success that comes from having a defense at Square 1.
Last, there's no indication that Norm Parker has any desire to coach a 3-4, and let's be honest: Norm Parker doesn't strike us as the kind of guy who does a whole lot of things that he doesn't want to do. Norm has his system, and it works. We don't know--not one little bit--that a 3-4 would be at all more effective than the products Norm and Ferentz have put out on a yearly basis for Iowa.
Is the 3-4 the way of the future? Perhaps. One could certainly argue that it's more effective against an offense like a spread option (or any system that's designed to attack the perimeter of the defense, really), so to assert that Iowa should never run it would be to engage in the type of blind fandom that most closely resembles Romain Rolland's nationalist hypocrisy (sports rivalries also fall under this definition, but shhhhhh!). If Iowa does move to a 3-4, though, it'll have to be part of a basically seismic shift in the program's approach to the game, and I don't expect that to happen until Norm Parker and Kirk Ferentz are no longer coaching this team. Until that day comes, gimme four down linemen and three linebackers every down, every week, every year, baby.
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The answer?
FUCK the 4-3 and the 3-4. The answer clearly lies in the 3-3-5.
/GERG’d
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
To think...
We’ll be having this same discussion in 50 years about whether or not we should go back to the 4-3. It’s all circular.
AND I LOVE THE 3-3-5 YOU DON’T SAY THAT ABOUT GERG.
Any defense
that you can’t get to work in NCAA Football 200whatever, is not a defense any real team should be running.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
The 4-2-5 is solid enough in NCAA Football, and it’s had TCU on top of the defensive world more often than any other team.
Sure, but look at who TCU plays… it is like saying look at how well Iowa’s defense has performed against its OOC games.
Carpe Diem! - Seize the Carp!
Even when TCU plays the BCS teams they tend to shut them down on the points scored chart. Wisco, 0U, Clemson, Baylor (yes Baylor) were all held far below their season averages last time they played TCU.
by HawkeyedFrog on Jun 10, 2011 2:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Can we change shoe companies at least?
I would love to do business with Timberland.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
We should go back to rocking the Ponys
if they were good enough for Hayden Fry, they’re good enough for us now!
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
We're a lunchpail kind of team
and there are our work boots.
"Pockets full of weed, chewing tobacco, wrapping papers and dental dams"
--HFMR Running the Beermile (tfj @ HawkeyeRecon)
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jun 8, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
We're Hawkeyes and should fly on winged feet

I bet they come in gold and black
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
Are those from the prop room of Hedwig and the Angry Inch?
It looks like some PF Flyers fucked Dorothy’s slippers, and this is their offspring.
"Pockets full of weed, chewing tobacco, wrapping papers and dental dams"
--HFMR Running the Beermile (tfj @ HawkeyeRecon)
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jun 8, 2011 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Northwestern workboots

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 8, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
Fuck yeah!
That post makes the short list for Most Amazing Post of the Year.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
And there’s precisely zero indication that he’s already ready for the big time already.
already ready for the big time already.
That was a tongue twister when I read it in my head.
I GOT A PRETZEL IN MY HEAD!
"Pockets full of weed, chewing tobacco, wrapping papers and dental dams"
--HFMR Running the Beermile (tfj @ HawkeyeRecon)
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jun 8, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Mmmmmmmm...
with spicy mustard for blood and melted cheese for uhh… lymph? Anyway, I’d eat you brain if it were a soft pretzel.
Wait, what?
"Enjoy the diarrhea."
by Bucketochicken on Jun 8, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Enjoy the diarrhea!
jtothetweet
"You know why I carry this baseball bat around? So when I poop a wildcat I can hit him over the head." - Dan Gable
Oh yeah, that'd give you the trots something fierce, I bet.
Anybody ever eat pretzelbrains can verify that?
"Enjoy the diarrhea."
by Bucketochicken on Jun 8, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
JoePa .. what say you?
He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jun 8, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Oooooooooooooooo
sounds awesome.
"Enjoy the diarrhea."
by Bucketochicken on Jun 8, 2011 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Is that what the sign reads as you enter Mexico?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 9, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions
For the record, I'm in favor of the 3-4 only in limited situations against certain opponents.
A permanent switch-over would be OH THE PAIN AND THE HORROR…
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
To me the question is are we going to make a greater effort to apply pressure on the opposing QB
are we going to use any blitzes or overload one side of the LOS? Making the umbrella bigger is okay in some circumstances, but not all.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Blitzes?
Overlaoding the line of scrimage? What does all this mean?
If only SMA. I would love to see us add a little cherry to our vanilla defense. Shit, who am I kidding? Chocolate would do!
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
That's racist?
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Jun 8, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
What would be the cherry in that scenario?
by Captain n Diet Coker on Jun 8, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
One word:
Cherries are delicious.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 8, 2011 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Perfect
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Jun 9, 2011 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I've always liked being able to run a 5-1-5.
Of course, only Joe Lee Dunn would be enough to run it in college football.
You don’t have the size anywhere along the DL to run a 3-4 by eating blockers. The LBs would just be speed bumps.
Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Jun 8, 2011 3:21 PM CDT reply actions
5-1-5 in the hizouse!!!
DSM 4 LIFE
straight thuggin
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Jun 8, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was heartbroken when my parents lost their 515.
It doesn’t feel natural to be a 641 and they are so close to 319, it’s a shame really.
The Northwestern games
Remind me too much of McCarney-era ISU games. Iowa seems unprepared for the notion that these other guys really have a hard-on about beating the Hawks.
Unsound defense? Not really. Unsound effort? Not really. Unsound mental approach? Maybe. You just have to know Wizgerald isn’t going to let up for 60 minutes. Match that attitude and more often than not the Hawks win.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 8, 2011 3:55 PM CDT reply actions
I really think Iowa was fully prepared and wanted to win that game in Evanston last year.
Ricky got over-aggressive trying to put the game out of reach and threw, arguably, his most boneheaded pass of 2011 to a completely covered DJK, and Clayborn missed Persa by what looked like inches on the scramble that set up the eventual game winning TD.
Stanzi’s injury doomed the 2010 team that looked as if they were going to steamroll jNW and a similar excuse could be used in ‘09 re: Shonn Greene. I wouldn’t say Iowa’s been unprepared for jNW, but rather unfortunate.
(I know I’m taking all credit away from the Wildcats, but I don’t care. You assholes can’t have your cake and eat it, too.)
by The Mexican't on Jun 8, 2011 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
You brought cake?
Looking back on what I wrote, I don’t want to sound like I’m crapping on people. I’m not. I trace a lot of the bad stuff on defense to Norm’s illness. I think its almost impossible to get locked in for big games when a team father figure is fighting for his health.
That’s what I meant by “mental approach.”
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 8, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
My memory of that day is a gray, rainy, cold blur with shitty concessions and lousy restrooms...
but the thing that sticks with me the most is that the offense took forever to get untracked. They barely got on the board before halftime as I recall. Then they zipped out with two touchdowns in the second half and everything looked fine and dandy. But the thing that haunts me about that game (and the Minnesota game, and the near-loss to Indiana) is just the offense’s complete incompetence for huge chunks of those games. They were playing lousy defenses that gave up points like candy to other teams, but it was like pulling teeth for Iowa to score touchdowns in those games. Absolutely maddening.
And now I need to go find a kitten to punch again. THANKS A LOT, MEXICAN’T.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I've decided only to remember the parts after the game.
Barbecue, drinking, mediocre German food, beer, etc.
"Enjoy the diarrhea."
by Bucketochicken on Jun 8, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, I have much more vivid memories of that stuff.
Which is good.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Weird, drunk, tired conversation about random Iowa basketball players as a nightcap
etc.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 8, 2011 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I only vaguely recall that.
The night resumes being a blur for me after we left the Bucketochickens.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I missed out on the best part of the day for a 45 min ride on the el and a drive home.
Which is highly disappointing.
by The Mexican't on Jun 8, 2011 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
That sounds awful...
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 8, 2011 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes! It was so stupid, frankly.
Penn State killed Northwestern in the second half, with Royster and Redd both running for more than 100 yards. And Penn State had an offensive line that couldn’t run the ball against just about everyone.
So, it made perfect sense for Iowa to have essentially no running game whatsoever. Just…stupid. Gaaaaah.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 8, 2011 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Especially since they had Marcus Coker just sitting there, twiddling his thumbs all day.
sigh
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
There's a reason I didn't even bother to address the main point of Bama Hawkeye's post in Ross's fanshot:
Because, I mean, c’mon, it’s Norm Parker’s defense.
Who questions Norm?
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 8, 2011 3:59 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Who questions Norm?
Most Iowa football fans. Almost every day.
I wholly agree with you Rambler, but what are you going to do?
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
That seems like a bit of a stretch.
Norm’s reputation amongst the Iowa fanbase is not anywhere near as poor as KOK’s. I’d wager that most Iowa fans go out of their way not to question Norm.
by The Mexican't on Jun 8, 2011 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I think people do get pissed about the defense
but for some reason Norm gets a pass from a lot of fans, and people either blame Kirk or the players (like the ass hat I sat next to all of last season in Kinnick who was screaming at Clayborn every. single. game.) But when the offense doesn’t run the right play, then it’s 90% KOK’s fault, 10% Kirk.
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Jun 8, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
In fairness,
I think Iowa’s D has been better-ranked than our O during KF/KOK/Norm’s tenure.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 8, 2011 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Fake math time
if Iowa’s offense increases by 20% the Hawkeye defense would better by 50%.
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
by BentNotBroken on Jun 9, 2011 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, there's that.
The “bend-but-don’t-break” begins to break when it’s put under undue stress for the entirety of a game. When the offense just can’t stay on the field it begins to wear out the D. It’s in situations like that, however, that Norm (or I suspect Kirk more than not) needs to be willing to adjust in-game and a)switch looks up a bit (not likely/too risky) or b)actually call the occasional safety/corner/LB blitz just to get the opposition feeling uneasy.
But otherwise, yes, what you said.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 9, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
How about we stop giving jNW receivers 8-10 yard cushions
on 3rd and long? I could live with that if it was the only change they made.
Der Hoelle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen
How about Stanzi not throw into triple coverage
when he had McNutt and Reisner completely open in the flat with no one covering them but each other. That game is over on that drive if not for that INT.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 9, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Every year with the same stupid shit.
Iowa plays a particularly grotesque form of football when they meet the Wildcats.
Der Hoelle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen
Gentlemen,
just blame it on the frickin Magic Potato, and move on. Wizgerald just overpowers us at times.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 9, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
If you microwave a potato for long enough, it combusts into a tiny black rock
I don’t have any good ideas on how to pull this off.
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Jun 9, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
"Bend but don't break"
Has Norm ever used that phrase in describing his defense? I always associate that term with Bill Brazier’s defenses which were a bit different than Norm’s.
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
I think this is absolutely the case
And last year, especially, becuase Norm wasn’t there for an overwhelming portion of the season.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Think about that statement
especially this part:
I’d wager that most Iowa fans go out of their way not to question Norm.
Most Iowa fans think they know better than Norm, some of them keep their mouths shut for the time being but they’re waiting in the wings.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
I don't even know about that
keep their mouths shut for the time being
More blitzing! Why won’t we blitz more! 3-4! The only way to stop the vastly superior spread offense is a 3-4!
Even if we contain the vaunted spread now and always have a Top 15 D, we still have people clamoring for more speed and especially more blitzing.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jun 10, 2011 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I think people are generally more docile when iowa is winning games
Clearly, some adjustments need to be made when playing jNW.
"but he is a worthless man, otherwise he wouldn't be so good a piper" -Antisthenes
Fuck yes. FREEEEEEDOMMMMM!
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 8, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
William Wallace, brah
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 8, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Hippies ruin everything.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 10, 2011 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Chazz's Dream Machine

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jun 10, 2011 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Let me guess,
they’ve started a jam-band festival, haven’t they.
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Jun 10, 2011 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
If Chevy made one of those...
it would probably be parked in my driveway right now.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 11, 2011 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Red rover, red rover send Michigan over.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 8, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
LOL
my first thought was the Olie, Olie Ocksenfree Defense
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
4-4-2
With Greenwood as keeper.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 8, 2011 4:59 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
5-3-2 with a sweeper
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 8, 2011 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
If we're doing that we may as well just go with the 11 defense.
Theres no way they get more than 5 passes off a game.
Big Ten football: All day. Every day.
Now you're just being silly
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 8, 2011 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions
For Beaters
I nominate J Leman and this guy.
Running is passing.
Defense is offense.
Ferentz is Chizik.
Dean?
Is that you, Dean Thomas? He really has grown the past couple years.
by One Night Stanzi on Jun 9, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the answer still lies in one of three things:
A) Get lucky and make sure you always have someone like Edds or Angerer or Greenway or whatever able to cover effectively
B) Recruit a speedy undersized linebacker to i) play full-time or ii) bring in/play a lot against teams with the spread (like a LaVonte David)
C) Recruit a big, slower Safety to come in and do the same as B (like a Jeff Tarpinian)
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
As Mas Casa noted about the Insight Bowl
Norm was making adjustments like a madman to try and contain Missouri. I think he had 3 on the line at times and a couple of the biggest plays of the game were downs where James Morris was sent on a blitz. Totally uncharacteristic but it had to be done.
We’ll do base 4-3 still, it’s our DNA and even though we won’t play Wisky regularly for a few years, the thought of having the ball run down our throats on a too-few linemen 3-4 by a power running team is just unthinkable for a team with Iowa’s mentality. That said, I think Norm had to watch more than his fill of spread offenses ripping off first downs on us and our stud linemen wasted on contain because of elusive quarterbacks. I think that we will run some situational 3-4, and we will blitz more than in the past. Norm has his schemes, but didn’t make it this far without some adaptations along the way.
Don Nordmann, we hardly knew ye
Whats it matter?
We just sit in the cover 2 anyways and let them dink and dunk all damn day…so frustrating to watch. Especially when your linebackers don’t have top end speed to cover the slot
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
It's the level of talent available.
When he’s got talented players, his defense works great. When we are thin on talent, the success is not so great. As long as they rank well in points allowed, It’s hard to be too critical. Besides as others have said, Norm is not going to radically change things.
So Russel Wilson Chose Wisconsin apparently
but there are conflicting reports
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
Wouldn't conflicting reports mean that Wilson's decision is not apparent?
by The Mexican't on Jun 9, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
yea yea yea
but if there are enough reports of him chosing wisconsin I’ll believe it…he hasn’t played well with the Rockies this summer and is feeling the itch for football and 70,000 screaming fans, thousands of jersey chasing groupies every night, and ass, crazy ass, like sick boy band ass
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
by waterboy31321 on Jun 9, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
And, more importantly
is virtually guaranteed the starting spot on a team that will contend for the league title. If Auburn weren’t going to be such a tire fire this season, I think he goes there. But, as oft noted, Wisconsin is “only a QB away” from the B1G title, so it makes a lot of sense.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
And, as pointed out elsewhere,
it can’t be tough to show up to a place with a smaller playbook than Tecmo Super Bowl.
Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Jun 9, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions

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