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RAWK. The Game of Thrones theme, 8-bit remix version:
Hello, world. Not many incoming basketball recruits get a press conference when they arrive on campus -- but not many come to Iowa City with a past as unique as Anthony Hubbard's, either. You can't exactly bring in a 26-year old JUCO transfer who spent four years in prison for armed robbery and expect him to get treated like just another one of the boys. So in an unusually proactive move for the Iowa athletic department, the Franimal and Bloodpunch opted to get ahead of the story and get the discussion of Hubbard's past out of the way as soon as possible. They also revealed a few interesting details about his recruitment, including how clued-in McCaffery kept Barta and UI President Sally Mason during the process, as well as what might have sealed the deal:
He was sought initially by up to 50 schools and picked Iowa over Big Ten competitors Nebraska and Penn State in part because of McCaffery — and his wife’s apple dessert — and the fan support he witnessed when Iowa upset No. 6 Purdue in March.
Score one for Marg McCaffery (and the delightful gustatory pleasures of apple cobbler, of course). But delicious desserts aside, every detail that's available certainly makes it appears that The Anthony Hubbard Story has the potential to be a truly inspiring tale of redemption and second chances. He made a terrible mistake nine years ago, but he paid for his crime and did his time; every indication is that he used that experience as a powerful learning experience and that he's been dedicated to turning his life around since then.
Given the bad publicity that has hung around Iowa athletics in recent years (hello, Pierre Pierce; hola, Cedric Everson and Abe Satterfield; bonjour, Rhabdogate; guten tag, Sports Illustrated!), it would have been easy for Barta and Mason to decide that Hubbard represented too much of a potential risk for further public embarrassment and veto McCaffery's plan to pursue Hubbard. Instead, they came down on the side of giving him a second chance, which seems appropriate. Colleges and universities are a place for fresh starts and new beginnings -- and those fresh starts aren't limited to 18- and 19-year old freshmen straight out of high school. Hubbard's past can't be entirely ignored or forgotten, but it shouldn't define him, either -- it's hard to imagine an Iowa recruit who's been more thoroughly vetted than him, and if McCaffery, his staff, Barta, and Mason are all satisfied with that process, there's no reason for us to wish him anything but the best of luck at Iowa.
Bring us your MACrificial lambs. Our blog buddies at Linebacker-U have produced a comprehensive breakdown of the track record of Big Ten teams taking on their friendly neighborhood MAC brethern, which makes for an interesting read. Iowa's overall record of 19-2 is fifth best in the league, behind Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, and Wisconsin. Their lone blemishes are those two unsightly losses to Western Michigan (in 2000 and 2007), although their 0-2 mark against WMU is one of just seven losing records a Big Ten team has against a MAC squad. (The worst? Northwestern's 3-6 record against Miami (OH).) Iowa also ranks in the bottom half of the league in terms of games scheduled against MAC opposition: only Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio State have played fewer games against MAC teams than Iowa.
Return of the formerly deposed king. After a year out of basketball, Todd Lickliter is returning to the sidelines in 2011-2012. That he's doing at a school (Miami (OH)) in a smaller conference (the MAC) is no surprise; that he's doing it as an assistant coach is a slight surprise. It wasn't that long ago that he was National Coach of the Year, after all. Then again, anytime you have a chance to work under Abe Vigoda, that's an opportunity you just can't miss. Best of luck to Lickliter.
Trapped like a rat in a cage. Penn State has apparently released their 2011-2012 wrestling schedule, which is news to us because it contains confirmation that Iowa's making a second consecutive trip to Penn State's bandbox of an arena, ostensibly because Nebraska's addition to the conference mucks up the established scheduling formulas. Of course, we all know that the real reason is because the Delanybot 9000 is a total dick that hates Iowa, but whatcha gonna do? Iowa beat Penn State at their place last year on their way to yet another Big Ten dual meet title, so it's not as though they'll be trying to reinvent the wheel when they invade the rinky-dink Rec Center again this winter.
Sample o' th' times. We want so badly to despise just Northwestern and everything associated with it, but our blog amigos at Sippin' on Purple make it so damn hard when they write interesting, amusing, and thoughtful articles like this one:
Think about the fact fact that Pete Rock probably listened to hundreds of hours of music before hitting that 3-5 second snippet. Think about the determination of somebody listening to their sixth straight hour of white 60's folk-rock sax music, waiting for something relevant sounding. Then hearing that snippet, thinking, "hey, this would make a great song!" It boggles my mind that somebody can instantaneously recognize the potential for something so deeply embedded in a free peace-and-love weed-oriented sax solo made by a bunch of dirty hippies as something that could be used for an almost polar opposite purpose.
If you have any interest at all in hip-hop or the art of sampling, the rest of that link is well worth a read. (Frankly, it's well worth a read even if you no interest in those topics, but you may not get as much out of it.)
FLASH BANGZ
* Doc Saturday renews his plea to ditch "Legends" and "Leaders" in favor of "West" and "East," geographical irregularities be damned; frankly, he makes a good deal of sense.
* Caring is creepy news is all quiet on the football front, but it's full-speed ahead for Lisa Bluder and the women's cagers, who landed 6'4" post player Nicole Smith for the class of 2012.
* When God tells you to leave Ames, well, what choice do you have?
* Boise State fans draw the ire of SEC fans, get verbally bitchslapped; this ain't the WAC, brother.
* Seriously, last night's Vancouver riots were insane. No matter how bad your night was, it was probably better than this guy's evening. Although your night probably wasn't as good as this couple's.
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That's probably one of the best MIDI tracks I've ever heard.
I imagine that an 8-bit Game of Thrones game would have been amazing.
It was already released.
They called it “Zelda” the first time.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Are you saying that there's a Ganondorf in Thrones?
by The Mexican't on Jun 16, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
As usual, I'm making a joke but not really knowing what I'm saying.
I haven’t played much Zelda, and I only saw 1 episode of “Thrones.”
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Isn't Super Nintendo 16-bit?
I believe the original Nintendo, was 8-bit.
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
I'd be completely content with an original NES Game of Thrones.
by The Mexican't on Jun 16, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Me too!
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
:p
Atari 2600/5200/7800 – 8 bit
Intellivision – 16 bit (10 bit instructions)
Colecovision – 8 bit
NES – 8 bit
Sega Master System – 8 bit
TurboGrafx 16 – 16 bit
Sega Genesis – 16 bit
Super NES – 8 bit
Neo Geo – 16 bit (parallel, marketed as 24 bit)
3DO – 32 bit
Sega Saturn – 32 bit
Atari Jaguar – 64 bit
Sony Playstation – 32 bit
Nintendo 64 – 64 bit
sega Dreamcast – 128 bit bus, 64 bit core
Sony PS2 – 128 bit
Microsoft Xbox – 64 bit
Nintendo Gamecube – 64 bit
Brunettes not fighter jets
Excellent info rockyh!
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
Intellivision was 16 bit?
Couple other thoughts:
Xbox is only 64?
Xbox 360 and PS3 not mentioned?
I remember staring lustily at a Neo Geo in Toys R Us for hours, specifically the Street Fighter-type game that was their flagship. It was something like $600 and I believe they claimed 32 bit while the rest of the current guys (SNES, Genesis, Turbo-Grafx 16) were only 16 bit. I thought that must have been the most important thing in the world.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jun 17, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
64 bit
is not that far removed from “cutting edge”. And packs quite a punch.
I just have to question if the ps2 was really 128… that thing is 10 years old.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Wow
It has been 10 years for PS2? Where does the time go?
Now I feel old
Formerly known as SpoWAHawk
TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin
I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! - Jim Zabel
by IAHawkfan4life on Jun 17, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Sega Genesis FTW
He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jun 17, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty sure SNES was 32 bit
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
by Brock8144 on Jun 16, 2011 3:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Linky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Nintendo_Entertainment_System
The SNES was a global success, becoming the best-selling console of the 16-bit era despite its relatively late start and the fierce competition it faced in North America from Sega’s Genesis console.
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
Super Nintendo? Sega Genesis? When I was dead broke man I couldn’t picture this.
by Angle's Dangle on Jun 16, 2011 6:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
One of my Top 10 Albums of all time.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jun 16, 2011 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
bloodpunch and the gang got out ahead of a story?
Like, they are controlling the news cycle to benefit their image and thereby the university as a whole?
/rubs eyes
//calls ripleys
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
Don't get too excited.
They’ve known about the transfer for a while.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 16, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Phil Haddy must be on vacation
Thus, in his absence, the SID’s office is running like a well-oiled machine
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Jun 16, 2011 11:16 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I was thinking about ol' Phil Haddy last night.
Has anyone made a Where’s Phil Haddy Tumblr page joke yet?
"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."
by SomeJerkPoster on Jun 17, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd say this illustrates a glaring difference between 2 of our beloved coaches
Fran’s been out ahead of this one both publicly & privately since the beginning. Kudos to him.
The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.
by HawkeyeGirleye on Jun 16, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
8-Bit "Song of Ice and Fire" has me giggling way more than it should.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
I'm partial to the classics.
Skynyrd, bitches:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4do1BVIorg&playnext=1&list=PLA9F23E494C8CADCD
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
This is also decent, maybe play it for the Hawks' entrance onto the field at Kinnick?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiRpABAF3Ww
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Gotta love some Haddaway:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLWTGcz4Oyg&feature=related
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
A little G&R?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lzpv_rCm_Y&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p_lJe-Vs50&feature=related
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Some Zeppelin?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rcyn5DbFHA&feature=related
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Some Ozzy/Sabbath?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNZ8X2HMGXg&feature=related
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
This one might be my favorite.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nCaWsRB8JU&feature=related
And some more AC/DC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAsn0eO7zLY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWMDigpc—s&feature=related
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
TV show themes?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l9n9gf27aM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH6SdoDdDmI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EICRyD6KeMg&feature=related
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Need some music to inspire you to work out?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCey88xpIns&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8PJQ6FCHq4&feature=related
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
A song that always gets me in a groovy mood.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw6hBuivnXo
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Van Halen?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO8bBeBd7a0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crG8phMhKs4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCAEfHHXRmk
(video for this one is quite funny)
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Chazz, do you need to find a summer hobby?
by Carfino'sWay on Jun 16, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought I just did.
You guys like Radiohead, right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBTn89Tlgy8&playnext=1&list=PL57513FA2682574DB
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
White Stripes FTW.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBD8y-PrPGI&feature=related
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
MC Hammer?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_UXniB6McE
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
80s music?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C_M1TNNeHg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpkdK2g7MPk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UhFwbDlxfc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKYSsrjiOr8
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
How about some 90"s?
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
THIS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAqZb52sgpU
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
Let me try this again...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot0t2uW1bJk&playnext=1&list=PL2B4AA83A738C4E9E
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
This
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5YUfPwJRiE&feature=BFa&list=PL2B4AA83A738C4E9E&index=44
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
Something from Canada. Go Canucks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ25vb2cXKY&feature=related
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
I was under the impression
that these were originally in 8-bit
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Who thinks having sex in the street during a riot is a good idea?
I guess the police probably had more pressing concerns than a couple doing the horizontal mamba in the middle of the street.
"No I'm not going to 'limber up'. You ever see a lion stretching before it takes down a gazelle?"
by Swarley on Jun 16, 2011 11:07 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Who thinks it's a bad idea?
It ain’t a riot until someone’s having sex in the streets.
by The Mexican't on Jun 16, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
/Metrodome'd
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Jun 16, 2011 11:29 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
They weren't having sex yet, were they?
"I can't go home until the carp is asleep. Because if I see it...swimming...I'll kill it."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 16, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Knowing that they are Canadians
it is possible that they just engaged in a vigorous bout of syrup eating and just became entangled in one another.
"but he is a worthless man, otherwise he wouldn't be so good a piper" -Antisthenes
This is exactly my opinon.
"I can't go home until the carp is asleep. Because if I see it...swimming...I'll kill it."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 16, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Been to Vancouver about 50 times
it’s hard to imagine riots in the streets. Last I knew they were threatening to use somewhat harsher language than usual if the city didn’t do something about the monthly “Critical Mass” ride. BTW, I like to ride my bike too, but I fail to see what a bunch of bicyclists being complete dicks for an hour or so during rush hour do to further the cause of encouraging a more bike-friendly city.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Some of these people are probably the same idiots who pulled the WTO riot in Seattle.
I don’t usually encourage police brutality, but when I do, I prefer it against Canadian hippies.
/Oh, who am I kidding? I love police brutality.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You obviously don't know what you're talking about regarding Seatle.
Read up on it, then make jokes.
Sorry, but misinformation pisses me off.
"Pockets full of weed, chewing tobacco, wrapping papers and dental dams"
--HFMR Running the Beermile (tfj @ HawkeyeRecon)
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jun 16, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd stay away from the internets then
Lord knows the best the web can do is about 65% truthiness
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Whatevs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTO_Ministerial_Conference_of_1999_protest_activity
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Um Wiki is based on "common knowledge"
and the first thing I saw was people sitting peacefully being sprayed in the face at point blank range by a pepper spray gun.
You point is… yada yada yada.
"Pockets full of weed, chewing tobacco, wrapping papers and dental dams"
--HFMR Running the Beermile (tfj @ HawkeyeRecon)
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jun 17, 2011 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, Seattle and Vancouver are about 2.5 to 3 hours apart.
Is it unreasonable to think that anarchists might have shown up at both places?
Also, should “people sitting peacefully” be allowed to sit in the street of downtown area, to disobey law enforcement instructions to disperse, and to set up roadblocks with dumpsters and whatever else they can find?
I know we are not supposed to discuss politics here, and I know I’m more right-wing than most people around here (although I’m probably more centrist than most would suspect). But I’m not a big fan of excusing poor behavior in the name of “peaceful protest.” Marches? Fine. Sit in the street? Not so fine.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 17, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Because riding around on a bike and pounding on SUVs with your fists really inspires people to save the world, man!
"I can't go home until the carp is asleep. Because if I see it...swimming...I'll kill it."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 16, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Rave on, bro!
fight the power!
At the time, this was a couple years ago, there were people who wanted the city to turn the fire hoses on them. I would have gone to see that.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
The older I get ...
The more I favor “morale beatings.”
The thing is, my mom and dad told me horror stories about Chicago in the 60s, so I think a full-scale police melee would really, really make things worse.
Fire hoses? I could be down with that.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 16, 2011 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
You're hilarious.
"Pockets full of weed, chewing tobacco, wrapping papers and dental dams"
--HFMR Running the Beermile (tfj @ HawkeyeRecon)
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jun 17, 2011 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Sampling
There’s a great podcast that talks about this. If you haven’t yet, you should listen to this episode of Sound Opinions from NPR. They go into great discussion of the sampling art of the last ’80s and early ’90s and how copyright law has made that form almost impossibly expensive to continue. The interview subject is Prof. Kembrew McLeod from the U. of Iowa, to boot.
"Bama Hawkeye, you know, the Iowa blogger who actually uses reason and analysis." - Patrick Vint
http://www.offtackleempire.com
yeah, i'm listening to this now
thanks for posting this over at SoP as well. still have no clue why i wrote that post.
by Rodger Sherman on Jun 16, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Ejuan Price Decommit from tOSU?
Oh boy oh boy.. chances of coming to Iowa?
"And after it was all over, he took us in the house and served us pancakes... pancakes." - Charlie Murphy
by Podolak Pimpin' on Jun 16, 2011 11:19 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Yes, this could be interesting
Iowa and I think Pitt were his other top choices. A 4-star linebacker is intriguing. And I don’t blame him one bit for getting out of the shit storm that is OSU right now. You don’t know if your coach for this year will be there in a year (and it was a different coach than he thought, at it is), post season bans are most likely coming (thinking the USC penalty plus some), etc.
by Captain n Diet Coker on Jun 16, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Damnit just saw this in the fanshot..
Whatever.
"And after it was all over, he took us in the house and served us pancakes... pancakes." - Charlie Murphy
by Podolak Pimpin' on Jun 16, 2011 11:26 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, if he's citing "stability" as his reason for wanting his release from his LOI...
…I can only think of one place.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
If they don't release him
it really just means burning his redshirt waitng to play, right? Which there was a good chance that would have happened anyway.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Not sure it would work that way
He may have to wait an additional year, after the 2011-2012 year before he could play.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
No, they actually lose a year of eligibility.
So he’d only have three years instead of four. And I don’t know whether that’s three years of eligibility to complete in four years or in five years (like normal). I’m guessing it’s the former. He can still practice and get a scholarship, though. There is an appeals process, though, allowign for extenuating circumstances to reduce the one-year ban. Coaching changes usually aren’t that, but the situation at jOSU is sorta unique.
This is great.
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/nli/nli/home/how+do+i+get+released+video+default+content
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Only the upperclassmen
the incoming and current freshmen were stuck.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Don't schools typically restrict where he can transfer when they release an athlete from a scholly?
As in, he wouldn’t be allowed to transfer within the B1G?
The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.
by HawkeyeGirleye on Jun 16, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't he a new recruit?
If so, I’d think that he’d simply need to get out of his NLI and then he’d be free to move about the conference.
by The Mexican't on Jun 16, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
That's exactly what I was hoping to hear
Please let this be the case, let tOSU release him AND let him choose Iowa. That’s not too much to ask, right?
The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.
by HawkeyeGirleye on Jun 16, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Since he was down to OSU, Iowa and Pitt
I don’t think it’s out of the question
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Jun 16, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
You won't be making fun of our arena when our army of intimidating Central PA whitetail deer arrives to take in the spectacle of Iowans and Pennsylvanians bleeding and dying amidst the agony of the Eternal Wrestlng Struggle.
"I can't go home until the carp is asleep. Because if I see it...swimming...I'll kill it."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 16, 2011 11:25 AM CDT reply actions
Oh, and someone needs to shoot the Big Ten for scheduling Minnesota-PSU in November.
Although that’s probably still not as bad as that idiotic road meet, home meet thing they do during one weekend.
"I can't go home until the carp is asleep. Because if I see it...swimming...I'll kill it."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 16, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Please say you are not trying to tell us that PA deer is more initmidating than Iowa deer.
by Carfino'sWay on Jun 16, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Iowa deer are so intimidating
they have to be taken out with snipers, yo.
by Captain n Diet Coker on Jun 16, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
PA has the biggest whitetail deer outside of the Rockies.
That’s just a fact. They don’t call Potter County God’s Country for nothing.
"I can't go home until the carp is asleep. Because if I see it...swimming...I'll kill it."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 16, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
And the east wouldn't even have whitetails if they hadn't been re-imported from the midwest.
"Pockets full of weed, chewing tobacco, wrapping papers and dental dams"
--HFMR Running the Beermile (tfj @ HawkeyeRecon)
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jun 17, 2011 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions
What's your point?
They’re still not your deer, they’re our deer and our deer are bigger, scarier, and probably tastier than your deer.
"I can't go home until the carp is asleep. Because if I see it...swimming...I'll kill it."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 17, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions
You take back the tasty part
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jun 17, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Our deer have more varied terrain - more exercise - and just as much forage.
Tastier.
"I can't go home until the carp is asleep. Because if I see it...swimming...I'll kill it."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 17, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
While moderate exercise is important, too much exercise actually hurts tastiness
Leads to less marbling of fat lines. And forage, while nice, has nothing on corn, barley, and wheat fields for creating a tasty animal right quick.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jun 17, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Iowa's Whitetail deer
would beat Pennsylvania’s Whitetail deer in a game of football by a score of 6 to 4 and that is with the Iowa Whitetail deer taking a safety at the end of the game.
neener neener
/Ferentz’d
Formerly known as SpoWAHawk
TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin
I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! - Jim Zabel
by IAHawkfan4life on Jun 17, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
You are not a man
until you can kill one of our deer with your bare hands.
"but he is a worthless man, otherwise he wouldn't be so good a piper" -Antisthenes
You can have your deer
and most of our deer. They’re overpopulated.
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Jun 17, 2011 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, and you can have our geese, too
if you’re taking animals. God, I hate geese.
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Jun 17, 2011 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Are the deer supposed to be more or less intimidating than the armada of elderly folks who encircle the mat?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Or the sullen, emotionless face of Sanderson staring daggers into Tom Brands
"but he is a worthless man, otherwise he wouldn't be so good a piper" -Antisthenes
Strike that, reverse it.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
You can just see "I could take this guy
by justsomehawkeyefan on Jun 16, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
what i was gonna say was
you can see “i could take this guy” written all over his face
by justsomehawkeyefan on Jun 16, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Sometimes I wonder if Brands is actually too intense to think.
Maybe he has to shut off his brain when he talks – the words just pour out from some place in his soul that he can’t even find.
"I can't go home until the carp is asleep. Because if I see it...swimming...I'll kill it."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 16, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
That sounds like criticism of Brands.
I’ll be sure to let him know you said these things.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I would never!
"I can't go home until the carp is asleep. Because if I see it...swimming...I'll kill it."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 16, 2011 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Come on, you know my policy.
I respect, aww crap, almost like Iowa wrestling but want to punch all of you in the gut. This is obviously awkward considering my love for Iowa football, but, uh, whatever.
"I can't go home until the carp is asleep. Because if I see it...swimming...I'll kill it."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 16, 2011 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you just quote Gene Wilder?
Quality Iowa reference there.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 16, 2011 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes. Yes I did.
Thanks for catching it (I didn’t realize it until you pointed it out).
Now, let me get profound on you:
“Because He doesn’t make rain. He gives us strength when we’re suffering. He gives us compassion when all that we feel is hatred. He gives us courage when we’re searching around blindly like little mice in the darkness… but He does not make rain!
[Thunder and lightning begin, followed by a downpour]
Of course… sometimes, just like that, he’ll change His mind.”

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
OBNUG being obnoxious?
I’m shocked. Shocked, I say.
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Jun 16, 2011 11:30 AM CDT reply actions
Boise State vs Georgia
ladies and gentlemen, the worlds least important “important” game
by justsomehawkeyefan on Jun 16, 2011 12:57 PM CDT reply actions
Not entirely true
It is the first opportunity for us not to have to hear about Boise State ALL. YEAR. LONG.
"but he is a worthless man, otherwise he wouldn't be so good a piper" -Antisthenes
Is that going to happen this year?
Their schedule is just………ugh. they dont even have that “big out of conference win” over some loser like VT to hang their hat on this year.
by justsomehawkeyefan on Jun 16, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
If they lose to Georgia there is no chance of it happening
"but he is a worthless man, otherwise he wouldn't be so good a piper" -Antisthenes
Georgia hasn't been good since Stafford/Knowshon
Even w/ AJ Green last year, they sucked. Blue Mountain State will wipe the floor w/ them.
Skol!
Eh, Georgia is still a super talented team and starting this August is a whole new season
"but he is a worthless man, otherwise he wouldn't be so good a piper" -Antisthenes
Yeah, but then we have to hear about Georgia all season long.
It’s better when there is pre-season hype then they lose three games in September and fade away.
by Carfino'sWay on Jun 16, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Why would you hear about Georgia all season long?
They actually play a full schedule. They will lose and then you don’t hear about them or they don’t lose and they deserve to be talked about. Boise fits into the media’s disrespected insurgent storyline in a way that Georgia doesn’t.
"but he is a worthless man, otherwise he wouldn't be so good a piper" -Antisthenes
To me Georgia is one of those teams, like say Texas A&M, that has a lot of pre-season hype every year
but when it comes to the actual season they don’t live up to it. I think a lot of that hype has to do with the SEC. I get tired of hearing about teams that have not been relevant for the past 15-20s years, I’m looking at you A&M and Miami, like they are current title contenders but when it comes to the season they flame out. Notre Dame would fit that bill as well but they are so over hyped that they are in their own category. My statement was in no way defending or supporting Boise.
by Carfino'sWay on Jun 16, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Anybody that said Texas A&M or Notre Dame...
was going to be anywhere near the national title in the last 3 or 4 years (or about the last 15 years for A&M), then that person/those people are not to be taken seriously.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
How has Georgia not been relevant in the past 15-20 years?
They have been in at least two BCS games in the last 6 years. In that time frame, I would say that they have probably been more relevant than Iowa.
"but he is a worthless man, otherwise he wouldn't be so good a piper" -Antisthenes
Don't you think it is a bit telling...
that, despite winning two SEC titles (02 and 05) and playing for another (03), they haven’t played in the BCS national title game? Especially since Florida, LSU, Alabama, Auburn, and Tennessee have all done so in the last 15 years?
Georgia is a good program, but not necessarily an elite program at this point.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't say they were elite. I said they were relevant.
I certainly don’t think they should be put on the same level as Notre Dame or TAMU.
"but he is a worthless man, otherwise he wouldn't be so good a piper" -Antisthenes
Rephrase: I said they were relevant if they won all of their games.
"but he is a worthless man, otherwise he wouldn't be so good a piper" -Antisthenes
I didn't say Iowa was relevant.
My main point is about hype. I think being in the SEC helps Georgia, just like it helps a team like Tennessee. Neither team is like Florida, LSU or Alabama who are perennial top 10 contenders. I think these three teams pull the other schools in the conference up and add to the hype and “mystique” of teams like Georgia.
I guess my problem is I get tired of watching Gameday and hearing about the SEC all the time and I am taking that out on Georgia.
by Carfino'sWay on Jun 16, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
So, you don't see a difference between winning every game
of a Georgia schedule and winning every game of a Boise schedule? If Georgia wins and keeps winning they deserve some acclaim (so does Boise to an extent). It wasn’t that long ago that Alabama wasn’t much of anything and Georgia was one of the teams helping to “pull them up”. In my opinion, Georgia has received only a fraction of the obnoxious media coverage of Boise State in the last few years.
"but he is a worthless man, otherwise he wouldn't be so good a piper" -Antisthenes
I didn't say that either.
My entire point is about pre-season hype, as specifically noted in my first two posts, especially last year. I recall a lot of pre-season hype and then Georgia lost three SEC games in September and a fourth to Colorado and they faded away. The three conference wins they did manage? Tennessee, Vandy and Kentucky not schools I consider powerhouses that make me think Georgia will be force to be reconed with this season.
Absolutely, Georgia has a tougher schedule than Boise, that was never part of the debate. For the record, I am not a fan of starting the conference schedule in September. Sure, you might end up with the occasional MACrificial weekend but I like having a “pre-season.”
by Carfino'sWay on Jun 16, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
What was part of the debate?
Georgia’s whole season is not wrapped up in one early season game against Boise. That is not true for Boise. If Georgia wins, they still have to get by the rest of the SEC east, so I don’t think a win over BSU will be enough to keep them as media darlings for an entire season.
Your point wasn’t about pre-season hype. Your point was that if Georgia beats Boise we will have to hear about it all season long. That isn’t a reference to pre-season hype.
"but he is a worthless man, otherwise he wouldn't be so good a piper" -Antisthenes
I think:
up until a year or two ago, Georgia was usually overhyped.
Obviously, Boise is also usually over-hyped. Personally, I kind of like Boise. But certainly, they are a bit over-hyped at times.
I hate to say it, but Nevada putting up a fight and finally beating Boise was not good for Boise, even though it was pretty awesome to watch that game.
And now, with Boise entering the Mountain West (after most of the power in the MWC has moved out), it will be interesting to see if they walk in and own the place, or if the MWC is just enough of a step up to make Boise lose a couple games every year.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I wasn't really debating anything until you wouldn't let it go.
Yeah, but then we have to hear about Georgia all season long.
It’s better when there is pre-season hype then they lose three games in September and fade away.
Was my original comment. . It had nothing to do with Boise. I didn’t even mention Boise. I could have been referencing any early game for Georgia. Don’t tell ME what MY point was because I am telling you my point was about pre-season hype.
by Carfino'sWay on Jun 16, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Game. Blouses.
"Pockets full of weed, chewing tobacco, wrapping papers and dental dams"
--HFMR Running the Beermile (tfj @ HawkeyeRecon)
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jun 17, 2011 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions
How is asking you to clarify your statements
“not letting something go”?
You can’t just say that Georgia is irrelevant and then not back that up. Especially when you equate them to Notre Dame.
Hype gained by winning a game is fundamentally different from pre-season hype, which is not really based on any relevant accomplishment. Actually, any bump Georgia might get from beating Boise in the first game of the season has more to do with Boise’s preseason hype than it does Georgia’s.
Your comment did have something to do with Boise because mine did. My point was about the obnoxious degree of media stroking that Boise receives and you suggested that Georgia receives or will receive an equivalent degree. I disputed your claim and discussed reasons why the two teams would not receive an equal amount of hype. You don’t like Georgia, I get that, but it isn’t an argument.
"but he is a worthless man, otherwise he wouldn't be so good a piper" -Antisthenes
Can't we all get along?
Remember the enemy is out there not in here.
Now be good lil’ Hawkeye fans and kiss and make up.
Formerly known as SpoWAHawk
TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin
I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! - Jim Zabel
by IAHawkfan4life on Jun 17, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Unfortunately, I think, Lycurgus and I are in a "who can be more stubborn" contest right now.
Like most contests of this nature we are both losing because neither of us is probably going to conceed. Not to mention the fact that I am convinced we aren’t even having the same conversation.
by Carfino'sWay on Jun 17, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Don’t tell ME what I am thinking.
See I can using formatting to make meaningless statements too
"but he is a worthless man, otherwise he wouldn't be so good a piper" -Antisthenes
Fer chrissakes, Lycurgus
Now you’re the one being a bully. Whether you agree with her stance or not, you don’t have to make personal attacks when disagreeing. You’re being an asshole.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jun 17, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, I guess I am an asshole then
"but he is a worthless man, otherwise he wouldn't be so good a piper" -Antisthenes
I am not sure how you are involved in this
anyway, unless it is just another opportunity for you to throw a name at me.
"but he is a worthless man, otherwise he wouldn't be so good a piper" -Antisthenes
I didn't tell you what you are thinking.
I said “I think” and “I am convinced”.
by Carfino'sWay on Jun 17, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
How is repeatedly telling me what I am saying "asking you to clarify your statements"?
Look, I made a flippant comment about Georgia that had absolutely nothing to do with Bosie because I did not mention them. Your initial comment was about two teams and I commented about one of them. Said comment was not made to start a debate about the relevancy of of a school I don’t give a shit about.
by Carfino'sWay on Jun 17, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Because you failed to clarify your statements
I felt that I needed to do it for you
"but he is a worthless man, otherwise he wouldn't be so good a piper" -Antisthenes
EVERYBODY GETTIN BUTTHURT
He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jun 17, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am not going to stand by and get attacked
without saying something
"but he is a worthless man, otherwise he wouldn't be so good a piper" -Antisthenes
When you put words in my mouth it doesn't clarify anything.
by Carfino'sWay on Jun 17, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't go through the breakup of
two integral parts of the BHBIGS team. I just can’t.
We all love the both of you. Just stop. Stop right now. Tell each other that you agree to disagree about Georgia or Boise State or whatever the fuck started this, and stop the insanity.
Don’t make me choose between you two. I can’t do it. I won’t do it.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 17, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Sorry Chazz
Apparently, stupid topics for debate can lead to ridiculous comments. As penance to this triumvirate, I wonder if it is time for me to go off and try to conquer Parthia.
"but he is a worthless man, otherwise he wouldn't be so good a piper" -Antisthenes
Is that a Game of Thrones joke?
And trust me, I’m a certified (or is it certifiable?) expert on debate leading to ridiculous comments.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 17, 2011 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I am sorry Chazz
my joke was a little bit Crass(us).
Eh, I just got stupid about a stupid thing
"but he is a worthless man, otherwise he wouldn't be so good a piper" -Antisthenes
You don't have to choose, Chazz.
Sometimes I am like a stubborn old dog with a bone and can’t get out of my own way. I think I might have mixed cliches there but I’m pretty sure you know what I mean.
Hugs all around. (and I don’t just give hugs away, hugs aren’t free with me they are earned, ask my brother-in-law)
by Carfino'sWay on Jun 17, 2011 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
As long as we're all a BHBIGS family again!
/happily sobs.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 17, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
So here's a question that may have been answered,
How many years of eligibility will Hubbard have?
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey
by White Lightning on Jun 16, 2011 1:13 PM CDT reply actions
Jesus wept.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jun 16, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I tried explaining to non-hockey fan friends
why all other hockey fanbases, especially the Blackhawks, hate the Canucks so much… and it turned out I didn’t really need to do any explaining at all. Sure, this is in no way indicative of the team itself or the fanbase as a whole, but it’s also not the first time this has happened. Last night was a perfect storm of everything that makes that franchise so detestable.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jun 16, 2011 1:42 PM CDT reply actions
Yes.
Jim Rome’s radio show has been going on all week about how nobody (not even other Canadians) except Vancouver was rooting for the Canucks.
Of course, then some people mentioned how plenty of Americans don’t root for Boston.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Jun 16, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
The Canucks remind me of the early to mid-90s Red Wings teams
Superb talent level, but they lacked the (talented) tough guys to win against a rugged opponent like Boston that doesn’t back down. Detroit couldn’t beat New Jersey or Colorado before they toughened up with guys like Shanahan, Maltby, McCarty, etc. Boston had similar guys in Lucic, Marchand, Bergeron, etc. that Vancouver simply had no answer for.
I’ll never understand why no one for Vancouver stepped up after Marchand turned one of the Sedin twins into a fucking speed bag. I wanted Boston to win as they were far, far better over the course of the series, but there’s nothing I hate more than soft teams. As a team, Vancouver was soft. For the love of Christ, someone step up and protect a star. If you get a game misconduct, whatever.
I could watch the video of the dude taking a flash bang to the nuts a million times and it wouldn’t get old.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
The part when it blows (HA) is just hilarious, yet painful.
Just like most of the shitty video-compilation shows on TruTV.
"As for conducting an orchestra, that's a job where I don't think sex plays much part."
I think whatever the hell happened last night ...
had less to do with hockey and more to do with troublemakers stirring up a crowd. I’ve heard that little corner of the world has a sizeable anarchist movement, which makes no sense as the Pacific Northwest is more or less universally regarded as one of the nicest places in the world to live. There are buttholes in every group, I suppose.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
-- I eat a lot of stuff -- WaterlooChazz
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 16, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I refuse to believe any one of those punks has the political depth to be called anything other than “Good for nothing punk who couldn’t get a job at McDonald’s.”
"I can't go home until the carp is asleep. Because if I see it...swimming...I'll kill it."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 17, 2011 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions
I really hope Georgia wins
It would make my life so much fucking better. These fucking BSU fans all last year kept saying how they beat Oregon and should be higher than them…but it wasn’t even the same year. They are new at this, and out of their fucking minds. I would personally pay a bulldog to rip off kellen moore’s hand at this point.
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
by BoiseHawk on Jun 16, 2011 10:19 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
What would you pay the bulldog?
Beggin’ Strips?
by bornofclay on Jun 19, 2011 8:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
What would you pay the bulldog?
Beggin’ Strips?
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