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by RossWB on May 9, 2011 12:00 PM CDT
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Where's Randy Savage? You are still keeping tabs on the exquisite Where's Randy Savage tumblr, right? If not, shame on you -- go rectify this grievous error in judgment now.
You play to win the game produce NFL draft picks. In case you'd forgotten how much the 2010 Iowa football team underachieved and disappointed, good news! The NFL draft should have done a banner job of reminding you of that sad fact:
Of the five Iowa teams that have had at least five players taken in the NFL draft under Ferentz, the 2010 squad is the only one that failed to win at least 10 games.
Go Iowa awesome! Breaking the mold! For the record, the 2010 team produced six NFL draft picks, the most of anyone in the Big Ten. Nationally, only seven other teams produced six or more NFL draft picks. Then again, there wasn't much correlation between on-field success and NFL draft success in college football this year. Only two of those eight teams with 6+ NFL Draft picks won 10 or more games (LSU, Nebraska). The others all endured fair-to-middling seasons on par with Iowa's: Georgia went 6-6 (and lost to UCF in the Liberty Bowl), North Carolina went 7-5 (and beat Tennessee in the Music City Bowl), Miami went 7-5 (and lost to Notre Dame in the Sun Bowl), USC went 8-5 (and played in no bowl), and Clemson went 6-6 (and lost to South Florida in the Meineke Car Care Bowl).
USC can at least least blame NCAA sanctions that prompted some players to transfer away and North Carolina can point to NCAA ruling that left most of their future draft picks suspended for most (or all) of the 2010 season. But the rest? They either squandered quite a bit of talent -- or the NFL evidently just took on a whole bunch of fresh lemons. It won't make the 2010 season any easier to swallow, but for the sake of the Hawkeys who were drafted, I hope the former explanation is the one that holds true for the new Iowans in the NFL.
New and exciting methods of pwnage. After a spring marked by notable Penn State victories at the Big Ten Wrestling Tournament and the NCAA Tournament (as well as a less-notable but still-existent win over Iowa in Big Ten basketball play), we were starting to worry that the worm might be turning in the nature of our relationship with our favorite B1G rival. There are certain constants in B1G life that we've come to depend on: Iowa pwns Penn State; Iowa will lose to just Northwestern, no matter how good each team is; and Ohio State will kick Iowa's ass (or, in the case of the last two football games, give Iowa a sliver of hope before going all Lucy on our Charlie Brown and ripping the football away at the last second). Fortunately, spring has sprung and with it has come fresh Iowa wins over Penn State, providing balance to the cosmos.
Iowa took two of three from PSU in baseball this weekend, opening the series with a resounding 11-4 win, then dropping a 3-2 heartbreaker, before rebounding with a 2-1 win in 10 innings to close out the series. The hero of the day in the latter win was plucky freshman Taylor Zeutenhorst, who hit a single up the middle with the bases loaded to score the decisive run. The win was Iowa's first series win of the 2011 Big Ten season and kept alive Iowa's slim hopes of making the Big Ten Baseball Tournament:
Another loss would’ve kept Iowa at the bottom of the conference standings and would’ve dropped the Hawkeyes three games behind Penn State for the sixth and final spot in the Big Ten Tournament. With trips to Ohio State and Purdue — teams that entered Sunday tied for second in the conference — the Hawkeyes knew another defeat would theoretically wreck their plans of returning to the postseason.
The win moved them a game behind Indiana and Penn State (currently tied for sixth place). The odds are still against Iowa making a return trip to the Big Ten Tournament (and duplicating their stirring 2010 efforts, when they were a game away from making it to an NCAA Regional) since they still must make road trips to Ohio State and OMHR (both tied for 3rd in the Big Ten right now) to conclude their season and anything less than a 2-1 mark in both series will probably doom them -- but at least now they have a glimmer of hope.
FOUL TIPZ
* All in all, Iowa's trip to the Insight Bowl worked out alright: they exorcised some Arizona night game demons, won a strange abstract flopping fish trophy, and even made a little money from the trip ($382,500).
* Following up on the excellent Run of Play article about the oft-toxic nature of sports fandom, the mothership's Tom Ziller wrote a strong piece defending sports partisanship. See where you fit into the Venn diagram.
* Weaselly Trev Alberts is weaselly.
* Brent Metcalf won his match at the 2011 Beat The Streets Gala in New York City last week, part of a 5-2 U.S. win over Russia. "JUST-LIKE-THE-COLD-WAR! JUST-LIKE-THE-COLD-WAR!"
* The National Football Post released post-spring football power rankings for the Big Ten; Iowa ranked 5th (behind Ohio State, Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Michigan State). We're not sure how much you can really determine from three weeks of practice (let alone three weeks of practice that hardly anyone gets to see), but hey.
* Finally, if you ever start wondering "whatever happened to Player X or Coach Y," Hawkeye Locator has the hook-up with nifty maps identifying former Hawkeyes in the professional ranks (as well as former Hawkeyes now in the coaching ranks).
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* Weaselly Trev Alberts is weaselly.
Couldn’t have said it better myself… Reading that article made me want to simultaneously want to throw up, take a shower and punch Trev Alberts in the throat and groin, Carfino’s Way style
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
Not entirely buying it
I’ll freely admit not reading the article in great detail, but ESPN focusing on this just has a little bit of an odor, thinking back to the acrimonious split between Alberts and ESPN. Alberts could be annoying (though he was a big fan of Ferentz, along with May) and may be wrong here, but I can’t get over ESPN waiting long and patiently for a chance to go after him, for anything.
When I saw someone with UNO mentioning they could have been a powerhouse at something, and going conspiracy about Alberts taking down UNO to find favor for the UNL AD job, they lost me.
Don Nordmann, we hardly knew ye
I rolled my eyes at some of the UNL conspiracy stuff, too.
But it’s a little ironic that you’re casting doubt on the tinfoil hattery of the UNL conspiracy while also suggesting that ESPN has waited six years to attack Alberts. I don’t think they really give a damn about him anymore; they hire and fire a lot of people, the latter often under awkward circumstances.
I’m not sure what motivation the economist has to attack Alberts, either. I don’t know if it’s all 100% accurate, but it does raise some interesting points about the financial issues that were allegedly at the heart of Alberts’ decision.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Not that I really care either way.
They do seem to be holding a bit of a grudge against Dan Patrick, by not letting any of their people talk to him. Of course that probably has a bit to do with the competing stations. However, ESPNs personalities have stuff they’d like to promote on occasion too and it just seems like they are being a bit childish sometimes.
It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care
I love Dan Patrick
and I don’t much care for ESPN most of the time, but I will say that Dan Patrick has gone out of his way to take shots at “The Mothership” almost every step of the way. I don’t blame ESPN for their actions in that regard.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Admittedly, I've only been listening regularly for about 6 months
But I think many of the potshots are precisely because of how they’re acting. Although, if he’s been doing it from the beginning I’m completely wrong.
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
by Brock8144 on May 10, 2011 11:44 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
His potshots come fro the way he and tWWL parted ways.
It was not a clean split, and both sides did some things to exacerbate the issues.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on May 10, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I could see that
but he also takes shots at the fact that even guys that he is still friendly with over there (such as Van Pelt) are basically banned from even fraternizing with him. I must say it is a little ridiculous.
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
Grudges happen...
especially with weaselly guys. Wiping out programs for ulterior motives, hardly as often.
Don Nordmann, we hardly knew ye
I agree with pretty much everything you point out.
I didn’t even get as far as the UNL AD stuff. I read through the first few paragraphs and thought, “Wait, is he pulling numbers out of the sky and using those to to claim that Trev Alberts is purposely foregoing financial gains in order to get rid of the two most popular sports at his school and piss off a large portion of his sports fanbase. Who the hell would be dumb enough to make that claim?”
It would seem clear to me that there is some sort of agenda behind this story. Start off by pulling on the readers’ heart strings, check. Make up numbers and attempt to pass them off as factual, check. Invent conspiracy because no other reasonable explanation exists for the claim you are making, check.
Had I read further I’m sure there would have been plenty more.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Later in the article, it mentioned...
that Alberts and others had deleted a bunch of e-mails and would not release their calendars. Maybe this is standard operating procedure, or maybe they had made a decision and don’t want to show that they did.
Also, the whole “hire a consultant and give them certain data, and don’t allow them to investigate anything else” is a bit fishy.
If Alberts does become UNL AD in a few years, it will be very sad that he left a whirlwind of destruction ant UNO.
ESPN has used this Schwarz guy before as an economic analyst, just as they tend to use the same couple guys anytime they have legal issues involved in sports (I think the law guy is Lester Munson).
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on May 9, 2011 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
it also said that the UN's policy is that any e-mails that could affect the long-term should be kept for a minimum 8 years
so yeah… they did wrong
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Delete all the emails you want
if your IT department has half a brain, there are archived copies of everything anyway. Bottom line is, if you think you might not want it in writing in the future, don’t put it in writing.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Wait, am I missing something?
I probably am. But, is UNO required to turn over their internal communications to ESPN?
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
I think a Nebraska law said they had to keep important e-mails for 8 years,
and when ESPN did a freedom of information request, it was found that a bunch of e-mails had been deleted.
In an attempt to find out what had been discussed in the past year, “Outside the Lines” made a public records request for documents, including email messages, pertaining to the Division I move and the elimination of programs.
According to the university records officers, all emails relating to those topics that were sent or received shortly before the NU board of regents meeting on March 25 had been deleted. State law requires that all correspondence which has “long-term ramifications to the operation of the agency” be retained for eight years. Officials also denied a request for the chancellor’s and athletic director’s calendars.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on May 10, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
These are the things that stuck out to me as well
It’s one thing not to comment on a story (that is pretty standard for AD’s) but to delete emails that seem to fall under the category of state law where you are forced to keep them for 8 years is very strange.
But this is what bugs me the most: “hire a consultant and give them certain data, and don’t allow them to investigate anything else”. If that is indeed what happened, then it appears that Alberts wasn’t honest with the process and cherry picked numbers to support his claim. I’m not sure of his motivation since I honestly don’t care enough to dig deeper into this, but it seems very sketchy to me.
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on May 10, 2011 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, I can't get past the idea of getting rid of a perennial
national championship wrestling team to benefit basketball and hockey. Have some pride UNO.
Der Hoelle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen
The real F'd up thing about that is
(if it’s 100% accurate) then the AD paid a company $20,000 to give him cover. If no analysis was done, and nothing new was parsed, then he wasted $20,000 of the school’s money to prove that he was right about the school not having enough money. This is the kind of logic that we get from so many people in high places, and a big reason why so many things are poorly run.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on May 10, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
/Munson'd
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
/young-munson'd
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on May 10, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to jack the thread
but a buddy of mine also has a blog about Hawkeyes in the pros called, interestingly enough, Iowa Hawkeyes in the Pros. Admittedly, it doesn’t have the fancy maps, but it’s worth checking out. Also good to see we are back to kicking PSU’s asses.
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
Goddamn do I love where's Randy
Some of them are deliciously subtle.
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
by Pain in the Sash on May 9, 2011 12:35 PM CDT reply actions
Cyrus Tate plays for the Oita Heat Devils?
That’s awesome/hilarious.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on May 9, 2011 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Boooooooooo!
Your opinion is contrary to mine, therefore you are wrong/the enemy/*DERP.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on May 10, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Neither Penn State nor Iowa can “own” one another in baseball because baseball isn’t technically a sport. That’s like me claiming PSU owns Iowa in sprint car racing, Ross.
Just another drifter who broke the law.
You may own sprint car racing, but we kick your ass in darts and bowling.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on May 9, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn it feels good to be a gangsta!
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
Penn State will totally own Iowa in varsity hockey in 2013.
Slightly more slatternly than Ohio State's compliance department.
by ReadingRambler on May 9, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
You have junior varsity hockey?
I’m sure the Mighty Ducks would kick their ass.
Now you ain't gonna come up here and steal Pepper Jack's best ho.
What about the game of feeding the world?
Oh yeah, that’s not a game, and Iowa wins!
/ANF’d
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Prepare for the vicious beating you will suffer in blogwrestling.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on May 9, 2011 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, whatever.
But we totally pwn you, n00b.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Knoxville Iowa is the Sprint Car Capital of the World
Or it least it used to be. Apparently, is it is now the Dirt Racin’ Capital of the World.
Whatever farm animal of war, Lana. Shut up!
I am aware of that.
I am also aware of two vitally more important facts:
1) Central Pennsylvania has the best weekly sprint car racing in Canada, the U.S., NZ, or Australia. Iowa’s racin simply does not compare. Indiana gets close.
2) Central Pennsylvanian (“The Pennsylvania Posse”) drivers routinely kick the butts of the World of Outlaws (The premier touring series) whenever they set foot in Pennsylvania.
Pennsylvania will always be the best place for sprint car racing and dirt track racing for that matter.
Slightly more slatternly than Ohio State's compliance department.
by ReadingRambler on May 9, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Can we have an argument about who has the more tragic meth-heads?
I would imagine it would be drawn upon similar lines.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on May 9, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure. But I’ll be useless in that argument. My knowledge of that topic is disgracefully shallow.
Slightly more slatternly than Ohio State's compliance department.
by ReadingRambler on May 9, 2011 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
There is a show called "Dirt Knights",
I think it is on Versus. They follow some Iowa dirt racers. One is a former meth addict.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on May 9, 2011 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I must admit, there is nothing about that last statement that is surprising to me.
Whatever farm animal of war, Lana. Shut up!
by Carfino'sWay on May 10, 2011 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Knoxville Iowa
would like a word with you
He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on May 9, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd like a word with it.
Of the many champions of the Knoxville Nationals since the event began in the early ’60s, almost all were from surrounding Midwest states, and only two made their fame driving in Central Pennsylvania. (Bobby “Scruffy” Allen and Kenny Weld). On the other hand, there has never been an Iowan winner of that race.
Slightly more slatternly than Ohio State's compliance department.
by ReadingRambler on May 9, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I forgot.
The most recent winner, Tim Shaffer, is from Pittsburgh. PSU has more All-Americans from Western PA than any other portion of the state, so he counts.
Slightly more slatternly than Ohio State's compliance department.
by ReadingRambler on May 9, 2011 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
And you would still be wrong about the sprint car racing...
Knoxville is still the center of the sprint car world.
Fuck tOSU
First time posting long time lurking
Just wanted to say that due to heavy traffic “the exquisite Where’s Randy Savage tumblr” is now out of order and I would like my refund. Also Danny “The Dude” Lasoski was my favorite sprint car driver.
That is goddamn tragic.
Hopefully it’s up again soon.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Actually, it's working for me at the moment.
Although it’s pretty slow.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Well, you can't just snap into it...
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on May 9, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Slim Jims are gross.
Spare me your space-age techno-babble, Attila the Hun.
by KilometersDavis on May 9, 2011 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
You forgot the "OOH YEAH"
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on May 9, 2011 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL3Z6Lajzw4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KipEpbnMmB8&feature=related
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on May 9, 2011 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
That is a great name you have there
and you have a good selection as a driver.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on May 9, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, solid name. Welcome aboard, hope to see you often.
Anybody who riles up Rambler can find fast friends in this circle.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on May 9, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Never has the expression "we're all friends here" been more apt.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on May 9, 2011 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Fast friends?
You mean, there’s, like, whores? Keewwl.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
At least you didn’t pick Kinser. But you still picked an Outlaw. That means you’re lame.
The greatest sprint car driver will always be Doug Wolfgang just like the greatest owner will always be Bob “Mr. Beef” Weikert from right here in the 717 of Central PA.
Slightly more slatternly than Ohio State's compliance department.
by ReadingRambler on May 9, 2011 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
And, yes, Wolfie was an Outlaw, but he was one of the original Outlaws who roamed, or, dare I say, rambled around.
Slightly more slatternly than Ohio State's compliance department.
by ReadingRambler on May 9, 2011 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Lasoski may be an Outlaw now,
but he spent years at Knoxville as a weekly regular.
.....OK, maybe I didn't think the short version of this name through....
by TheStupidShallBePunished on May 10, 2011 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Breaking News: Kirk Ferentz revokes media privileges of Rick Carlisle and Phil Jackson
Kirk Ferentz could not be reached for comment but was overheard saying, “I’ll teach those uppity negroes.”
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Some jokes are funny and relevant. Others are not.
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
by BentNotBroken on May 9, 2011 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank you for pointing out that my post wasn't entertaining enough for this blog
luckily you’re post really came though in that category and made up for my shortcomings.
Please provide me with your personal e-mail address so that I can run future posts by you before bringing such embarrassment to myself and my family’s name.
One last thing, please read the title of this article then ask someone who actually follows current sporting events to explain it to you. My post may not have been funny, and one of the topics it touches on may have been incredibly overdiscussed here and other places but I’ll be damned if it’s not relevant.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
racistjokesnotfunny@2011.com
Not entertaining here. Posting on the singular BHGP topic I consider over done and repulsive: the implication that Kirk Ferentz has a dark evil center.
Also the last two words of your post I find repugnant.
These words are heavier than my spirit. Several a BHGP thread I have thought to interject my thoughts on this topic. Apologies for selecting yours, HawKCP.
/respect
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
by BentNotBroken on May 9, 2011 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
As a person who has occasionally posted some ridiculous, slightly racist stuff on here,
I must say I didn’t completely understand why that KF/Carlisle/PhilJax/uppity negroes “joke” was in this thread, either.
But, HawKCP and BentNotBroken have each proven to be good BHGP citizens, so maybe we should all make efforts to avoid race jokes here, because they just aren’t all that funny. Unless they involve chicken and greens, and then they’re just tasty.
/Zoeller’d
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on May 9, 2011 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
After a trip to Deadspin,
and another look at the title of this post, I now understand the peyote comment (and yes, Carlisle, even WaterlooChazz, the world’s biggest ant-drug [but pro-DRUGS] person, knew that you don’t smoke peyote).
I am still mystified by the “uppity negroes” comment.
On a side note, I had to turn away from Lupe Fiasco and some horrid woman named Skylar Grey, crooning on Stephen Colbert tonight.
Here is the music video, you can probably find the Colbert footage on his site.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22l1sf5JZD0
Thank god we have another celebrity blaming the government for 9-11 though. That never gets old. And he’s angry about diet soda, too? You can have my Diet Mountain Dew when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on May 9, 2011 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Because what we need
Are more musicians teaching us dance moves and 16 year old kids singing about love and broken hearts.
At least Lupe made you think.
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on May 10, 2011 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh, he made me think...
about how much I hate him.
I fear for the future (and present, and past 15 to 20 years) of American music.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on May 10, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Meh
“Popular” music is almost always terrible, if you’re remembering any era being otherwise you’re grossly mistaken.
But there’s more good underyling music now than there ever has been thanks to the new cheapness of producing and selling your own record. It’s especially been a boon to the singer-songwriters (like Neko Case), the hop-hop beats makers (many well rejoiced here on BHGP already) and the “weird” acts that don’t fit very well into a genre (like Mumford and Sons)
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on May 10, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know any of those peoples' music.
But if you are trying to tell me 80s pop doesn’t rock, then I’m going to kick your ass. Just let me put away my Fine Young Cannibals CD first.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on May 10, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I had FYC tape when I was a kid.
Whatever farm animal of war, Lana. Shut up!
by Carfino'sWay on May 10, 2011 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
CD instead of tape?
That implies you bought it well after you should have known better.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on May 10, 2011 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't have it.
But I do like their biggest song (She Drives Me Crazy).
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on May 10, 2011 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I also like that song
And I like 80s music, especially New Wave. Just flipping you shit.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on May 11, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
The 50's want to stab you in the throat
Elvis, Holly, Cash, Jerry Lee, Valens, etc
Der Hoelle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen
The songs you remember are diamonds in the rough
They are roughly 200 good songs in an entire decade of shit. Just like picking out the few good songs and remembering the 80s or 90s or whatever decade fondly. There are usually a few good popular songs each year, and after a while we forget that you had to swim through 10 terrible songs before that Elvis song came on.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on May 11, 2011 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Isn't music, like most art, fairly subjective?
Once again you are offering up your opinion as fact. Just because you think a majority of the songs from the 50s are shit doesn’t mean other people do.
Whatever farm animal of war, Lana. Shut up!
by Carfino'sWay on May 11, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough criticism
but I don’t think your point is valid in this case. I’m saying the function of time vs memory of that time is what makes us remember that era fondly, while actually being in that time would make the few songs you (or I) like a drop in an ocean of other songs. A quick look at any Billboard chart from any given week will show this to be the case.
For instance: For today’s date in 1958 (first year I looked up), the top of the Billboard chart had only four songs that you can buy online today:
“Claudette” by the Everly Brothers
“Dontcha think it’s time” by Elvis Presley
“My Bucket’s Got a Hole In It” by Ricky Nelson
“Do I Like It” by Nat King Cole
Ouch. The rest of the chart is unavailable to even buy online at this point, a good indicator of their staying power.
Pick any random week and you’ll see the same thing.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on May 11, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
This week in 1959
Is slightly better. Has all 10 songs available to buy online, not that it does you much good. #1 was “The Happy Organ” by Dave ‘Baby’ Cortez. Ah, that classic!
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on May 11, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
I like 50's music.
In fact, 50’s and 60’s are my wife’s favorite. But the absolute fact is that 80%+ of the “popular” songs then are terrible. Just like today. Just like always.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on May 11, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I will fight you to the death that only 80% of the songs in the 80s were terrible.
Whatever farm animal of war, Lana. Shut up!
by Carfino'sWay on May 11, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Aww, crap.
I will fight you to the death that 80% of the songs in the 80s were terrible. Is what I meant to say.
/Stupid window not being long enough for me to see what I have typed.
Whatever farm animal of war, Lana. Shut up!
by Carfino'sWay on May 11, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
First year I chose:
I like only 2 of these songs. Of the Top Ten. How many do you like? If it’s less than 7 I’d posit that my premise that your belief that you like more than 80% of the Top 40 songs from this snapshot week in that year is wrong
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by therealCatnuts on May 11, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Eight songs.
The only song I can honestly say I do not like and will not listen to is Anything For You by Gloria Estefan. I would listen to all of the other songs but that one. Pink Cadillac is my favorite song but I probably will listen to it and sing along.
I had the Johnny Hates Jazz (loved it), Samantha Fox (what the hell were my parents thinking) and I think Taylor Dayne tapes. My sister had the Pet Shop Boys, Aerosmith and Whitney Houston tapes that would borrow.
Whatever farm animal of war, Lana. Shut up!
by Carfino'sWay on May 11, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Pink Cadillac is NOT my favorite song
That is an important NOT.
/Jeez I’m having trouble typing today.
Whatever farm animal of war, Lana. Shut up!
by Carfino'sWay on May 11, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, then.
Proved me wrong in regards to your love of 80s music. I also like that music era but you’re far ahead of me on that.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on May 11, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Being available for download does not equal being a good song.
I’m sure there are lots of “good” songs that aren’t available for download. You couldn’t download Beatles songs until, what, 6-7 months ago? Were those not good songs? (I’m not a big Beatles fan but I understand their importance in music history. My freshman roommate thought they were the bees knees but I didn’t get it.)
There could be many reasons why songs aren’t available, eg royalties, access to recordings that aren’t damaged, ownership rights.
Whatever farm animal of war, Lana. Shut up!
by Carfino'sWay on May 11, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Look at the next post for the 1959 top hits for this week, then
All top ten there. All pedestrian at best, most of them terrible. And those were the TOP hits. 80%+ pure schlock for “popular” music at large.
And to your point of “good” songs not being available, my point is that “popular” songs, i.e. the one’s you’ll hear on Top 40 radio, are mostly terrible. Sure there are forgotten hits of every era, but don’t let that fool you that “popular” music has ever been or will be mostly good.
A small point: This is not to say that all “unpopular” music is good, it’s probably an even smaller percentage there for good music. Just saying that fond memories of a bygone era where good music was on the radio is completely revisionist history.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on May 11, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I still think you are fucking nuts
if you don’t think that just the Sun Records lineup alone wasn’t better than anything the last 10 years of popular music has had to offer.
Auto-tune renders your point invalid.
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I stand corrected that I used the term "good" when I should have used "popular"
but my point is still valid. Popularity has nothing to do with whether a song is available for download. Again, see The Beatles, and there are THOUSANDS of unpopular songs that are available through iTunes and Amazon.
I don’t think downloadability (I might have made that word up and I’m okay with it) has anything to do with your initial point .
There are usually a few good popular songs each year, and after a while we forget that you had to swim through 10 terrible songs before that Elvis song came on.
Especially when you factor in my point
There could be many reasons why songs aren’t available, eg royalties, access to recordings that aren’t damaged, ownership rights.
Whatever farm animal of war, Lana. Shut up!
by Carfino'sWay on May 11, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
You're arguing a small comment
not the bigger point. I think it’s best to just let this particular argument sit.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on May 11, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I owe you a beer or three, Ross.
How I ever felt like my life was complete before knowing about Holy Maury and Where’s Randy is beyond me.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on May 9, 2011 9:51 PM CDT reply actions
Personal Randy Savage story
Somewhere around 1998 or 1999, WCW came to Cedar Rapids. I was only a tangential fan, mostly from the awesome N64 wrestling game, but I went with 3 other friends. We got crappy seats and it was a blast.
Near the end of the live show, we start to go down the aisles to get as close as we can to the ring before the broadcast ‘goes dark’ and the show ends in the middle of the last match. It’s a pretty big match featuring a ton of big names that jumped in to do the ‘break things up, take offense at something, start more rumbling’ ending. Macho Man is one of the guys that has jumped in midway.
As we’re in the aisle, we get jostled by somebody flying past us using pretty strong force to get to the ring. We think it’s some more wrestlers joining the pig pile, but it’s just four guys about our age (20ish) that are determined to get into the ring. Broadcast has gone black at this point, so the only other people who saw this were in attendance. The four kids make a mad charge for the ring. Security tackles two of them before they get to the ropes, another gets his upper body into the ring before being dragged out by security.
The last guy gets into the ring and starts running around trying to get the wrestlers to engage in wrestling moves. None of them are biting and they’re quite annoyed. The kid turns to Macho Man and Savage gives him a full right cross that knocks him out on his feet and has his face explode in blood. He crumples to the floor and gets dragged out of the ring so they can finish the stuff that was scripted for the after-hours recap. About 10 minutes later the kid is being taken out with a security guard on each arm, and he’s eating up the raucous cheers from the crowd.
Good times. Only wrestling show I’ve ever been to, but I’d definitely go back.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
I was at that show.
I had decent seats and could see that whole scene pretty well. I don’t recall the blood, but I do recall Savage throwing that kid down (I remembered it more as a clothesline, but might have been a punch).
WCW was in its downturn at that point. I went to a house show at the Five Seasons Center a couple of years later, and Sid Vicious was the “headliner.”
I once went to a house show at the UNI-dome for WWF/WWE, and it featured a great main event with Undertaker vs HHH (and maybe some other dudes in a tag-style match?)
Gotta love pro wrestling.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on May 9, 2011 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I once went to a show at the Five Season's Center
where Papa Shango lit the Undertaker on fire with voodoo. Fuckin right he did.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
You have forced me to post this photo
I saw Macho Man on the beach in Cancun in 2000, surrounded by Mexican bodyguards wearing Slim Jim t-shirts. My 2 friends and I got a photo with him.
I blocked out our faces mostly because I look like a douchenozzle.
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on May 10, 2011 12:12 AM CDT reply actions
Wow.
You really do look like a douchnozzle.
Slightly more slatternly than Ohio State's compliance department.
by ReadingRambler on May 10, 2011 7:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I think you spelled douchenozzle wrong
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on May 10, 2011 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks.
Slightly more slatternly than Ohio State's compliance department.
by ReadingRambler on May 10, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Mis-spelling... not so bad.
Mis-using? Well.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on May 10, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I think you used the word 'wrong' incorrectly
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on May 10, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
That's you in the dragon shirt isn't it?
by The Mexican't on May 10, 2011 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm the one in the sunglasses and the chain and the beard.
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on May 10, 2011 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That dude in the dragon shirt has ET fingers
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on May 10, 2011 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
OHHHH YEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHH
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Where's the Kool-aid Man?
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on May 10, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I was gonna make that comment.
Because everyone knows Randy says “Oooooooooooooh yeeeayah!”
by Eyeheartfreedumb on May 10, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know if this is as good of a story, but here...
When I was in high school (1998) at Bettendorf, most the football team used to lift at DePaepe’s gym in Rock Island. One afternoon we arrived at the gym and on my way to the front counter I passed a really familiar looking, huge individual. I turned and looked at him for a second and realized that The Rock had just brushed by me to use the phone. Apparently the WWF (I think this was still the moniker back then) guys were in town to do a show at The Mark and they were doing their pre-show workout. I did arm curls not 5 feet from Animal and my self-esteem took a while to recover. Ken Shamrock was doing lat pulls and breaking one of the few gym rules about always wearing a shirt when you workout. Because of how tall everyone else was, I never realized that he was about 6’ 1" or 6’ 2". He had lats that looked like a cobra hood. I watched Mark Henry do a ridiculous amount of weight on leg press. There were a couple of guys, who had biker personas, and they had to duck through door ways. They must have been close to 7 foot tall. Apparently, Stone Cold and the other guys worked out in the morning so we missed them, which sucked. Needless to say, we didn’t get a real good workout in that day.
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Cuz you were too busy staring at half-naked guys working out.
BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
(sorry)
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I don't think you have to look very far
to find pictures of WWE guys half-naked. They might not have that oh-so-desirable “amateur” look from being inside a small gym, though.
Tangentially related question: As a man that took time to look up a nudie video that made me queasy because of its origins (Erin Andrews), I’m curious if you’ve taken time to look up the bootleg Iowa Wrestling shower videos from the late Gable era. Just curious.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on May 10, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Expecting all the commenters to bring the funny is probably a mistake.
by The Mexican't on May 11, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I suppose we could point out every time you're not funny.
But doesn’t that add even more tot he unfunniness of the blog. Like a self-fulfilling prophecy. iscuss how unfunny something is, thus making said thing even less funny. Cool.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
The next time I make a shitty gay joke, feel free to tell me it isn't funny
Until then, fuck off
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by Lycurgus on May 11, 2011 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
How about earlier this week?
Seriously, guys: Kumbaya this and move foward. It was a dumb joke.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on May 11, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
If it makes you'all feel better,
if I had made a dumb gay joke, Ross would have hunted me down and I’d look like Osama right now.
Hey, Lycurgus: Is the BHBIGS season pretty much a no-go at this point, or should we have another “meet” one of these days? Personally, I thought you and Swarley did a great job and I enjoyed every post about it, even if I am the Farva of the team.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on May 11, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Jesus, get over yourself.
It’s a fucking college sports blog comments section.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
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