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Is there a better way to get your three-day weekend started?  No, there is not.

Noah's Ark was also "just another boat."  To some people, a year that began with a preseason top-ten ranking and visions of Big Ten titles and back-to-back BCS bowl game trips and ended with three nauseating November losses, a return trip to Arizona no one wanted for a late December bowl game, and the (very) public disgraces of two offensive stars would be quite a kick to the nuts.  And that doesn't even mention the tarring and feathering that commenced in January after Rhabdogate went national.  Kirk Ferentz is not one of those people, though.

Despite all that, Ferentz declined to give 2010 any credit as one of the more difficult in his 12 at the helm in Iowa City.

"Every year has its own challenges," said Ferentz on Wednesday before addressing the Tama County I-Club at its spring banquet. "The games didn't all turn out the way you want, we had a couple guys make decisions we wish they hadn't.

"That's part of college athletics."

Really?  On one hand, Ferentz's ability to take a big picture view of things is admirable in a world of 24/7/365 news cycles and trumped-up sensationalism -- in general, I think it's a very good thing to have a coach who can keep such an even keel, rather than one prone to exploding into a fit of rage at the slightest provocation -- but on the other hand, there's a rather unwelcome elment of burying one's head in the sand in those comments, too.  I don't think anyone's going to be offended if Ferentz acknowledges that 2010 wasn't a year like any other and that it was, in fact, particularly painful -- hell, they'd probably like him more if he expressed some emotion in that fashion.

Star-divide

Ferentz also opined on some of the specific problems from last year -- namely, Iowa's struggles in close games:

"The year before we did a better job pulling games out in the fourth quarter, and last year we didn't. It's really about as simple as that," said Ferentz. "So the key for us is winning close games. If we do that, the season turns out really well and everybody's smiling, and, when we don't, we end up not playing in January."

Well, yes, playing better in close games would certainly help a lot.  You know what else would help?  Not playing so many fucking close games, especially against teams that have no business being close to you.  You know, like Indiana, Minnesota, and just Northwestern.*  You do need to win close games to have a good season, but you can also help your case by limiting those close games to teams that actually deserve it (you know, like Wisconsin and Ohio State). 

* Yes, yes, recent history and all that.  jNW gave up rushing yards like it was their job last year; why Iowa didn't simply pound away with Marcus Coker in that game remains utterly mystifying.

One Life To Creep.  So what else is Ferentz doing besides uttering bland platitudes on the I-Club circuit?

"We watch soap operas, play poker, things like that," Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz joked Wednesday before speaking at the Tama County I-Club banquet. "We alternate our card playing and TV watching."

Rumor has it Ferentz is a diehard fan of All My Children; nothing says steady reliability and aversion to change like 40+ years of Susan Lucci.  Meanwhile, Ken O'Keefe is still bitter that NBC canceled Passions, but he's recently gotten into Niña de mi Corazón; he just can't believe the wacky hijinx that Andrea gets into!

But for reals: news has been awfully quiet on the caring is creepy front.  Iowa has all of one commitment so far (offensive lineman Mitchell Keppy), which is the main reason they sit near the bottom of mgoblog's Big Ten recruiting class rankings (only Indiana is below us -- they have no commits).  The end of May is no time to panic and odds are the recruiting class will start filling out when the kids take some campus visits this summer, but really: caring may be creepy, but you still need to keep up with the Joneses and the Joneses are out getting their creep on en masse.

Tricksy defense is tricksy.  First it was Mas Casa, now it's Rittenberg: maybe there really is something to all this chatter about Iowa using some more 3-4 looks this fall?

It makes sense, especially against spread offenses that get the ball out quickly and require speedy defenders to make plays in space. Iowa struggled to generate consistent pressure against Gabbert in the Insight Bowl, forcing Parker to shake up the scheme quite a bit. 

Without much proven depth on the line, Iowa might be well served by being more multiple this season. Although there are some question marks at linebacker, the group could be better and deeper if younger players like James Morris, Christian Kirksey, Anthony Hitchens and Dakota Getz continue to develop. Tyler Nielsen provides a veteran presence to build around, and Bruce Davis is back from a knee injury. 

Iowa's linebackers lack experience, but not talent and in Nielsen, Morris, Kirksey, and Hitchens Iowa has arguably its fastest linebacking corps in recent memory.  That could come in very handy against the spread offenses that figure to dominate Iowa's schedule this fall.  Iowa won't be switching to a permanent 3-4 anytime soon -- outside of Carl Davis (who's very raw), Iowa doesn't have the sort of space-eating defensive tackles you need to make the 3-4 work -- but it could be effective in limited doses. 

MYSTERY MEATZ

* Rittenberg also lists Iowa as one of the potential dark horses in the Big Ten in 2011, noting their favorable schedule and potent offensive line.

* The Boston Globe, citing unnamed "rumblings," reports that the Big Ten is considering Maryland and Georgia Tech for expansion; considering the Globe thinks Doug Flutie is still the quarterback for Boston College, we'd take this report with a few mountains of salt.

* The Cleveland Plain-Dealer's Doug Lesmerises provides a nice breakdown of the nine-game conference schedule debate; in a nutshell, coaches are against it and athletic directors are for it -- when in doubt, expect the guys who control the checkbooks to win.

* Despite the continued absence of the Cougillsaurus, the Sioux City Journal still has nice things to say about Iowa basketball and the Franimal (probably because he raves about Zach McCabe, another refugee from SUX**).

** Honest to God, that's the airport code in Sioux City.

Nature used to be so much more awesome.  (And more terrifying.  But mostly awesome.)

* Friendly reminder: Brad Banks and the Iowa Barnstormers are on the NFL Network again tonight, hosting the Utah Blaze at 7pm CST.

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What about Casey McMillan at NT?

He played D in HS and is of less than modest size. He is basically Bill Brasky in Black and Gold.

Battles are won with a hammer, wars are won with a scalpel

by C.I.owA on May 27, 2011 9:08 AM CDT reply actions  

Hmm, you may be on to something there.


"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on May 27, 2011 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

True. I got more of a Mice and Men feel.

Battles are won with a hammer, wars are won with a scalpel

by C.I.owA on May 27, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Right after that picture was taken

Casey pet that kid’s head off.

"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."

by Twin Cities Hawk on May 27, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Can you imagine trying to box him out as a high schooler? ffffuuuuu

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 29, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awww, Cap'n Snarls....

Why you so mad, buddy?

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on May 27, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've finally cracked Rhabdogate

It is really Doyle brilliant execution to a change of defensive scheme. With all Norm’s downtime this season, he of course watched more NFL. He finally figured out how to make the 3-4 as plain as Iowa. After convincing KF that it would work they realized they needed to beef up a few DT’s—quickly. Therefore, they simply had some players piss some excess amino acids and had there space occupies on a piss and beef diet to prep for this season.
All said, it will be well worth it when we roll a 58-0 on jNW using base 3-4 against them this year.

Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.

by BoiseHawk on May 27, 2011 9:25 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

*occupiers

And still not convinced its spelled right

Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.

by BoiseHawk on May 27, 2011 9:26 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

He looks like someone who could actually eat an Epic Meal Time by himself.

Now after writing Epic Meal Time, I am simultaniously full and hungover without having had anything to eat or drink.

Battles are won with a hammer, wars are won with a scalpel

by C.I.owA on May 27, 2011 9:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Salad? Fuck salad!

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on May 27, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck that.

The giant shark is called “megalodon”…MEGALODON! It’s a fucking Transformer name and it’s a shark, which by the way, have brains and genitals made of dynamite. Has television taught you nothing?!?

Yeah, but bigger.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on May 27, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ol' Kentucky Megalodon

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on May 27, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Somebody crack a window!

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on May 27, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on May 27, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Ya know...

I’m really wired… whaddya say I take ya home and eat your pussy."

Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.

by Smokin Herb Grigsby on May 30, 2011 1:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I propose a re-make of Floyd of Rosedale

using Terminator Pig as the model

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on May 27, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Terminator Pigs.

EnteloDONT fuck with them.

/see what I did there.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 27, 2011 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stole Lycurgus' bit, you swine
/see what I did there.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 29, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lycurgus surely uses that more than I do,

but I think it was around the internetz long before either of us started typing it round here.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 29, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, just a stupid joke

You can’t see it when others do it?

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 29, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

It should be pretty obvious that my sense of humor

isn’t completely in the same groove as other humans.

But I am sorry if I came off as an ass there.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 29, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think you came off as an ass, just didn't take it as a joke

I found that irony very appealing.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 29, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Glad I could be entertaining.

And now for my rhythmic dance routine.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 29, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holy. Shit.

I think I just crapped my pants…

"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable

by ClaybornSmash on May 27, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Reply fail

You replied to a previous comment, that’s what that button means.

When you want to make a comment apropos of nothing, you go to the bottom and use that box that says “Post a new comment.”

by Eyeheartfreedumb on May 27, 2011 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Or there's that "comment Fascist" button

for people who have to get all pissy about where someone else puts their comment.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 27, 2011 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think that will rile him up.

‘Fascist’ has to be the ultimate insult for a hippie.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 27, 2011 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait, what?

Oh, this is the part where I question your joke, and then you post that’sthejoke gif, and then I say I See What You Did There

Could we just skip that and get to the part where we skate all morning, and laugh, and talk of memories past.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on May 29, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I want my treatise on how he doesn't know what 'Fascism' is! Damn it!

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 29, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hear you. Sigh.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 29, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

From the Rittenberg link:
Iowa had three defensive linemen selected in the NFL draft — Adrian Clayborn, Christian Ballard and Karl Klug — and also must replace its starting quarterback, top two safeties, leading rusher and a record-setting receiver.

This is so depressing to see in print. I feel so optimistic until I think about our personnel depletion.

by The Final Gun on May 27, 2011 10:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Next. Man. In.

… or… something like that.

… yeah, agreed.

Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.

by Smokin Herb Grigsby on May 30, 2011 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tate Forcier CTE scandal?:

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/report%3A-tate-forcier-found-hanging-out-apartment-window-20110527-mr

So if concussions can cause CTE, and CTE can lead to suicidal tendencies, does Tate Forcier sitting on a window ledge 12 months after Adrian Clayborn “welcomed” him to the B1G actually bother anybody?

(CTE is a serious topic, but I’m suspending seriousness to make a “Tate Forcier is a tool” joke).

You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on May 27, 2011 10:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Apparently a side-effect of Tate's CTE

is transferring schools every few weeks.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on May 27, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think to transfer

you have to enroll and show up.

"Sometimes the truth gets in the way of a good story" - KF

by The Bacon Explosion on May 27, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you've just cracked the Brandon Wegher case!

Clearly, he had a undisclosed concussion and THAT is why he’s been bouncing around schools like he and Little Man Tate are on their own private college tour

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on May 27, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

CTE reduces brain cell counts, but increases your sperm count?

BW3’d

Battles are won with a hammer, wars are won with a scalpel

by C.I.owA on May 27, 2011 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wegher did a lot of head banging while at Iowa

just not the one on his shoulders.

"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants

by Kluginator on May 27, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you haven't seen it, SNL's latest Digital Short is the best of a great series.

This.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt

by HawKCP on May 29, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hate Timberlake, Lady Gaga, and Andy Samberg like I hate poison.

I saw that clip on last week’s SNL.

I think I’d enjoy “actors” making fun of 80s style R&B more if I didn’t absolutely hate those “actors.”

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 29, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I saw this comment right away and decided to hold off responding until I had a chance to calm down.

The fact of the matter is that Andy Samberg is the man and it angers me that you do not recognize his awesomeness. I originally had a profanity laced tirade all ready to go for you but I decided against it. All I will say is this, keep those plungers ready mother fucker because I’m going to find that genie and you just moved up the list.

Say hi to your mother for me, alright.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt

by HawKCP on May 29, 2011 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate to rain on your plunger parade

But I must inform you that I am an individual that already can plug toilets on demand. And I think I’m not the only one on these boards. All it takes is a larger man with a larger food intake (tyger? Swarley? Chazz even?). Not only is it quite possible, but it’s also quite delicate at dinner parties (“Pardon me, do you have any Grey Plungerpon”)

OK, I’ve officially had too many beers. And yes, Andy Samberg FUCKING RULZ (with a little help from Justin Timberlake – and no, not THAT Samberg/JT hookup)

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 29, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

You upper decking son of a bitch.

I knew it. Well played.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt

by HawKCP on May 29, 2011 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK, I just watched the clip for the first time

GOLDEN. PURE GOLD.

Also: That’s Gaga? I always assumed she was unattractive under all the makeup

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 29, 2011 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

You've definitely had too much beer.

I’m not a fan:

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 30, 2011 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

And, I'm not the only one who hates Samberg.

Just do a google search for “Andy Samberg not funny.” Or just ask Marc Morehouse if he’s funny.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 30, 2011 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I feel comfortable

knowing that the underlying music/film industry humor that The Lonely Island uses falls on me and not you.

Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.

by Smokin Herb Grigsby on May 30, 2011 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I feel comfortable knowing...

that you’ve probably seen Hot Rod and I have not.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 30, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I actually can read her poker face.

"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants

by Kluginator on May 31, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was Suge Knight

in the area?

"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer

by Flakbait on May 27, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

No one would claim to see him if he was

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on May 27, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm starting to think Focier might be successful at Kansas State.

There are not buildings higher than two stories in Manhattan, KS.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 27, 2011 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Focier=Forcier.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 27, 2011 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Globe is a perfect representation of New England's interest in college sports not called "hockey".

Georgia Tech is essentially Boston College South; great TV market, great school, competitive athletics, little actual interest from anyone. Maryland, however, remains a school that I’d love to see in the Big Ten someday as they, too, bring a couple major metro areas with them, have competitive athletics and actually bring with them an atmosphere representative of major college sports. Plus, they are both a natural and historic rival of Penn State’s (albeit a lopsided one), whose absence of a real rivalry continues to be detrimental to the league. I don’t see the Big Ten revisiting expansion anytime soon, but all it takes is another league trying to get the ball rolling and the detente will end like that.

Oh, and O’Keefe is clearly a fan of El Clon…or is that Kokaine?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on May 27, 2011 11:25 AM CDT reply actions  

FUCK Maryland (and Clemson)

that is all.

Though, to be fair, my hatred for the turtle is declining appreciably now that Gary Williams retired.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on May 27, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck MD seconded.

Battles are won with a hammer, wars are won with a scalpel

by C.I.owA on May 27, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait, is that MD as in "Maryland" or as in "Doctor"?

Because I would love to be a fuck doctor.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on May 27, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's true.

He wears his Boob Inspector hat when he shows up to mow my lawn.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on May 27, 2011 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does he wear his John Deere hat

when feeling your tits?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on May 27, 2011 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a private matter between a man and his gardener, McCann't.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on May 27, 2011 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess he should go by Ralph Fiennes

because it sounds like he’d have to be a constant gardener…Ba-ZING!

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on May 27, 2011 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who's Juan Deere?

Sounds like a competitor. You saying I need to sharpen my knife?

by The Mexican't on May 27, 2011 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

This thread was excellent, until the Ralph Fiennes joke.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 27, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then it became sublime?

Chazz, don’t let your love of Fast & The Furious movies come between love of actual cinema.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on May 27, 2011 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know, I have only seen the first "Fast and the Furious."

But, you are correct, I probably need to broaden my cinema choices.

/insert adult film joke.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 27, 2011 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ralph made himself a party killer by pronouncing his name 'Ray'

Huge douche move. “It’s Thomas, not Tom. Thanks”. Hate those guys.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 27, 2011 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's how I've always heard it pronounced.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 28, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

All these years of pronouncing it wrong. So shamed.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 28, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

One of my favorite TV moments ever.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 28, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

More "Ferentz is not perfect" notes. Meh.

He’s still the best coach in the Big Ten and one of only 5-6 coaches nationwide I’d want coaching my beloved Hawks.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 27, 2011 12:23 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

I like Ferentz too, but I don't think that means his comments aren't worthy of discussion or critique.

Given everything that happened last year, I think characterizing 2010 as “just another year” is downright odd at best.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on May 27, 2011 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

We made (and won) a bowl game against a team that had won 10 games.

Certainly, our Tuscon and Big-Ten-last-half-of-year performances were a disappointment. But, we are Iowa, not everything goes the way we hope.

Personally, if I was going to be miffed at anything KF said, it would be the fact that he mentioned the drug “decisions.” If I were him, I’d never mention that by choice ever again. And I’d start censoring every Hawkey videotape, DVD, or laserdisc in sight to get rid of those sons-of-bitchin-tree-smokers.

/I’m joking with the anger. But I am serious that if I were KF, I’d not be mentioning poor life decisions by my players on the I-Club circuit.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 27, 2011 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

And I mis-spelled Tucson, so my opinion is obviously null and void.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 27, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll have the Tuscon steak

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 27, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I realize I am in the minority

But I firmly believe we already know too much about players’ personal lives and dissect way too much what Ferentz says and does at every step. I realize KF makes tons of money and is a prominent figure and deserves a higher level of scrutiny, but I really do dislike the prying into players’ lives. They’re 18-23 year old dumbass testosterone-fueled young men. I’m not too distraught when a couple do some incredibly stupid things, that’s what young men do. They already lose an important part of their lives (football/scholarship), so I don’t want them to also have to deal with an extremely rabid fanbase that expects too much from them.

And yes, I realize those types of things are what make fine blogs like this possible and what makes me check in her much too often because I love it so much. Doesn’t make me dislike it any less, though.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 27, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wanted to agree with this.

The only thing I must disagree with is, that the dumb actions of these guys can get out of hand and hurt others. Weekends in IC will always have “adventure-seeking” behavior. But, it can get out of hand quickly, especially if drugs or alcohol are involved.

But yes, KF doesn’t need to be echoing this stuff months after the fact. We have plenty of positives we can focus on on the I-Club circuit: Coker, the O-Line, Hyde, Prater, Morris, Daniels, Binns, and others. Let Norm and Brands handle the jokes.

And let me have an SEG gullibility moment: KF isn’t actually saying that the coaches watch soap operas, right? (Yeah, he’s joking. Definitely joking).

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 28, 2011 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, IC is probably not quite as "bad" as some college towns.

But, it has been making the “top party school” lists the last few years, so that’s kind of why I made that comment.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 28, 2011 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

Also, sigh.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt

by HawKCP on May 29, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait, Georgia Tech?

I know the Maryland rumblings were there as one of those really off chances picks, but this is the first time ive heard of GT even being considered.

by justsomehawkeyefan on May 27, 2011 1:44 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm sure the source of that "rumbling"

is Georgia Tech. But even then it’s probably some low-level flunky in the AD’s office who is originally from the Midwest. GT would never join the B1G, it is too wedded to the ACC.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on May 27, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did they change to the Rumbling Wreck?

Battles are won with a hammer, wars are won with a scalpel

by C.I.owA on May 27, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think they're that wedded to the ACC

considering they spent a good portion of their program’s life (and most successful run) as a member of the SEC. I just don’t think the Big Ten would have any interest in them as football and its ratings drive the bus and Tech just doesn’t have what it takes.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on May 27, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also, they were independent from 1964 until sometime in the early 1980s.

But I must agree that they are not a good fit with the Big Ten. However, if we were ever considering Texas to break into that market, then GT to break into Atlanta/Georgia isn’t completely completely retarded.

Still, I favor going with a Big Ten of 12 rather than adding GT and Maryland right now.

And, I’m watching the news right now, and Kachine Alexander was waived by the Minnesota Lynx today.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 27, 2011 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

As a counterpoint

your comparison of Texas and Georgia Tech is fucking stupid. Respectfully.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on May 27, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe so, but neither seem a great fit for the B10.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 27, 2011 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

UT is a much closer fit than you think

That’s why that particular rumor picked up steam last year. Texas, outside of its we’ll screw over everyone athletic department, is a very good fit academically, philosophically and culturally for the B1G. By that, I mean the university, not the state. Plus, it does deliver the eyeballs and prestige the B1G covets. GT is the exact opposite

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on May 28, 2011 1:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, Texas is actually about the perfect fit for the Big Ten in every possible way.

Other than the whole being in Texas thing. Otherwise, Austin is a warmer, more musical Madison.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on May 29, 2011 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I will never understand how that city is in the middle of Texas

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 29, 2011 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Neither will the rest of Texas

It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?

by chitownhawkeye on May 29, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

The Big Ten didn't need Nebraska either

but they could get them so they did. It’s good to be king.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on May 27, 2011 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

They were speculated on last year

They are actually a pretty good fit if you ignore geography and the average size fan base.
The B1G door will be closed for quite some time. Maybe, someday, in the distant future it will open for Notre Dame +1, but I don’t think even Delaney could predict that for sure.

"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer

by Flakbait on May 27, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure

they could make a graph showing why we should take them.

It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?

by chitownhawkeye on May 27, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

That, and obtaining the genius that is Coach Paul Johnson.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 27, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

WTF!

don’t know that there won’t be movement sooner than expected

there’s been rumblings from the Big East, MWC, C-USA, etc that there may be some teams moving around in the near future

just one totally hypothetical scenario that could affect the Big Ten with Delany doing anything- –
Army and Navy are (maybe) being looked at by the Big East which could change the Independent landscape a little, which could have Notre Dame reevaluating their position, etc.

it’s a one-off example (there are a lot of holes, and it was just one of many possibilities, which is why I didn’t flesh it out) but there are many ways that other conferences realigning this off season could affect the Big Ten

by Eyeheartfreedumb on May 29, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

If the MWC, Big East, C-USA can’t improve their quality to try to land the occasional team in the BCS, then their only real option will be to increase their quantity and hope they can squeeze some more cash out of extra teams (and hopefully some extra fans).

Army and Navy might, theoretically, have national followings. Therefore, you’d hope to gain that if the Big East invites them in. Perhaps the Big East is also hoping to “force” Notre Dame to eventually join, but I would guess Notre Dame would never join without a Texas-like share (or more) of various revenue streams. Also, they run the risk of Notre Dame (probably?) joining the Big Ten over the Big East.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 29, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree that Norm got to watch some television and it may have made an impression

Too often last year (and obviously players took blame for this, too) the strength of our defense was neutralized to a degree by spead offenses. Norm will play to team strengths and while I’m sure Kirk has final say, I suspect a conversation between the two has Norm doing most of the talking and Kirk doing most of the listening. Last year showed we need to shake it up occasionally, and when Norm was really back, more than once in the bowl game an LB blitz stopped a Missouri drive. In a year where we don’t play the team that could take greatest advantage of some lack of maturity on defensive line (Wisconsin), a smaller and faster backer-oriented defense might be just the right thing.

Don Nordmann, we hardly knew ye

by Mr. Grizz on May 27, 2011 1:45 PM CDT reply actions  

More 3-4? I'll believe it when I see it

Buuuuut…

I think a technician like Norm would have fun playing around with 3-4 looks, especially if Norm and Kirk picked Bill Belichick’s brain a bit. People think of a 3-4 as a blitzing defense, which is not necessarily true. It’s great for covering pass happy teams. Imagine Morris out in space, smacking MOFOs around.

And I want to see Case McMillan on the field. If it’s at DT, so be it.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

by Blackheartnopants on May 27, 2011 2:39 PM CDT reply actions  

We ran a ton of 3-4 with all sorts of wacky blitzes in the 01 Alamo Bowl

And it resulted in keeping in really awesome Texas Tech offense in check. Wouldn’t mind seeing him play around with it more, but I just don’t see it happening.

by NorseHawk on May 27, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really don't see why we might not see it for 5-10 plays a game, depending on the situation.

It’s certainly not going to become a primary formation, but when they need to give the offense a different look or get a stop… I could see it, especially in likely passing downs. We’ve seen it here and there in the past and the personnel this year (lots of speedy, seemingly talented linebackers, a dearth of experienced defensive linemen) lends itself to a little experimentation.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on May 27, 2011 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not to mention the similarity to those early aught Norm Ds

hybrid guys

I’ve been reading a lot about some of our new guys being safety/backers or DL/backers. It reminds me of Matt Roth and Sean Considine (etc.) days.
Hopefully we can recapture some of that.
I can’t wait to see what we look like in the fall.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on May 27, 2011 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

How is the quagga included on that list?

Oh, look. It’s a zebra horse. That’s hardly incredible. I can appreciate the effort of trying to breed the species back into existence, but I don’t really see how it’s worth it.

It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?

by chitownhawkeye on May 27, 2011 4:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Can you imagine being a lion

and ALL you ever get to fucking eat is zebra?

Variety is the spice of life, my friend.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on May 27, 2011 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was talking to a student the other day,

who didn’t completely realize that lions were carnivores.

I asked him “have you ever seen a lion eating anything but another animal?”

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 27, 2011 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's AMAZING some of the things kids don't realize.

E.g., just the other day I got this one from a 6th grader: “Can ducks* swim?”

*He actually called it a “duckie,” but whatever.


"Enjoy the diarrhea."

by Bucketochicken on May 28, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I had a girl I was dating who was a first grade teacher.

She had a kid reading out loud and he got to the difficult word “colonel”. He thought for a beat and then pronounced it. She corrected him: “Sound it out. Coll-uh-nell”. She told me this story and I had to point out to her that he had pronounced it correctly “kernel”. Man did I laugh hard that day. That was the beginning to the end of our relationship. It was mutual. She was too dumb for me, and I was too dickish for her.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 28, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow.

My boss pronounces “quiche” as kwinch. He also says “pacific” instead of “specific.” I hate him.


"Enjoy the diarrhea."

by Bucketochicken on May 28, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I...

…just…fuck.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on May 29, 2011 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I love linguistics.

No one can pronounce anything wrong? Who says colonel has to be pronounced “kernel”? Oxford English Dictionary. Well, it also says literally can mean “figuratively.” Probably shouldn’t be considered infallible.

I mean ask used to be aks.Who’s to say one is write and the other is wrong?

/high horse’d
/needless’d

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on May 28, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I die a little inside when someone says aks.

For the record, I am unable to say the word excerpt. Literally (correct usage of the word) I can’t do it.

Whatever farm animal of war, Lana. Shut up!

by Carfino'sWay on May 28, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am unable to burp. I can't figure out if yours is more strange or mine.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 28, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hands down you win.

Whatever farm animal of war, Lana. Shut up!

by Carfino'sWay on May 28, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know

I’m guessing you can say the phrase “my ex burped” but then you can’t make it to ‘excerpt’. That’s strange to me. A bit like having a bone disease that prevents you from pronouncing the ‘t’ in planetarium

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 28, 2011 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please know:

if any of you say “wash” or “Washington” with an r (warsh, warshington), then you are a freak, and need to repeat grades 1 thru 6. And while you’re at it, go ahead and pick up that 8th grade “degree” that you obviously didn’t get yet.

/I’m not really saying any of you are dumb, but adding the r to wash really ticks me off.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 28, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chazz

We live in Iowa. Half the state pronounces it “warsh”. I just laugh at it.

Also, as someone that travels frequently, almost everywhere else people love to hear Iowans pronounce “Iowa” – they think we do it wrong. (Eye-Oh-Uh versus Ahh-wuh)

Please note that the internet does not, as of yet, have a sarcasm font.

by benvious on May 29, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have never heard it pronounced "Ahh-wuh".

I’m curious where you’re hearing that.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 29, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

While watching "Forrest Gump"?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on May 30, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dallas/Ft. Worth

"Pockets full of weed, chewing tobacco, wrapping papers and dental dams"
--HFMR Running the Beermile (tfj @ HawkeyeRecon)

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jun 4, 2011 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point on pronunciation of "Iowa."

Like Catnuts, I have almost never heard it pronounced “Ahh-wuh”, but it makes me feel good that I pronounce it in a way that sounds smarter (Eye O Uh.)

It is probably like the difference between MissourE and MissourUh. Except, I’d say that more people inside that state pronounce it a way that sounds dumb (MissourUh.)

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 29, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would say that I pronounce it 'Eye-Oh-Wuh'

Only a slight difference but including the only consonant is apparently important to me.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 29, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

same here!

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on May 29, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can pronounce Missouri both ways damnit!

It depends on where in the state they are from how they same it. RAH (it is part of an MU cheer even) is more rural and E is more citified. People in KC jump up my ass about saying it RAH all the time. Now, I partially do it just to piss them off but that is how I learned it from my family from Carthage.

Whatever farm animal of war, Lana. Shut up!

by Carfino'sWay on May 30, 2011 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

How many words end in "i" and have it pronounced "ah."

And how many teeth did your family from Carthage maintain?

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 30, 2011 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ahem

Tripoli, IA

Pronounced Trip Oh La

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by benvious on May 31, 2011 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will have you know my relatives have the normal number of teeth.

In fact my uncle, who is originally from MO, is very proud of the fact that he has never lost a tooth. I am missing four from when I had braces. Maybe you can use that as a joke that I am missing them because I am from SE IA and that is practically MO anyway.

I remember going to the Iowa/Cincinnati home game when I was in high school and the announcer, I don’t remember who it was or if it is still the same guy that does it now, pronounced it Cincinnata. So take that. Ha!

Whatever farm animal of war, Lana. Shut up!

by Carfino'sWay on Jun 1, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Cincy is basically northern Kentucky,

and Kentucky is where they marry the prettiest girl in the holler (relation or not).

Forgive me, but you know I had to make the Missouri/less teeth joke.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jun 1, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

My mom, from strawberry Point, IA, says Woishington. My dad, from Western IA, says Warshington.

My sister and I say Washington. (my parents might be switched, actually) NEvertheless, it was weird.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on May 29, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

While I agree with the grating nature of the "warsh" pronunciation

I WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS VICIOUS ATTACK ON MY GRANDMOTHER!!

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on May 29, 2011 11:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Your grandmother warshed my balls last weekend

And that tongue? Orsh Korsh Begorsh!

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 29, 2011 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is exactly what I thought.

My grandfather has always said it the correct way and yet my grandmother has always added the “w”, which is really irritating since they live in Washington, IA.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on May 30, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

On the Creepy note

I think we only had two recruits by this point last year, and that wound up being a really good class (and one that filled up pretty quickly by Iowa standards; we got a bunch of commits in June). Definitely no reason to panic yet.

by NorseHawk on May 27, 2011 5:16 PM CDT reply actions  

C'mon, Norse, it's always time to panic.

FERENTZ IS PAST HIS PRIME!!! WE NEED TERRY ALLEN TO RESTORE US TO GLORY!!!

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

by Blackheartnopants on May 27, 2011 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

Nicely done.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 27, 2011 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Vandenberg should be benched in favor of Derby

Who should, in turn, be immediately superseded by Rudock as soon as he gets on campus.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on May 29, 2011 11:52 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

None of them can hold a torch to the possibility of Gunner Kiel

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 29, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just like to throw that in there from time to time ...

knowing that the thought of Terry Allen as Iowa HC gives some of us older Iowa fans a bad case of the sweats.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

by Blackheartnopants on May 27, 2011 11:39 PM CDT reply actions  

To me the one that hurts most is wiscy

the simple failure of punt coverage
i dream about losing that game
and just after they make the 1st
my ex wife butts in
“cover the fucking punt idiot”
not a dream a nightmare

Long Live the Pellican Whore - like FOREVER

by OhioHawk on May 28, 2011 11:40 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd feel a lot better

if Ferentz would say something like…..“yes last season was a disappointment. The coaching staff takes full responsibility. We will work hard to make sure it doesn’t happen again” . Now come on Kirk, would that be so hard to say?

by docted on May 28, 2011 12:35 PM CDT reply actions  

There would be people who would have a problem with that too.

He can’t be everything to everyone.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 28, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

HIS FAILURES ARE UNACCEPTABLE!!

Fire him immediately!!

And you’re probably right that some people can and would never be satisfied. But I think Ross’ larger point above is correct, this is a middle ground here and it would be nice to get some acknowledgment that things went a bit sideways last year. Even if its just to note that last season was a learning experience and some mistakes were unfortunate.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on May 28, 2011 1:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

You may be missing the point he was actually making.

I don’t have the exact context so I’m making my own but I took his statement as:

Sure last year had challenges and things didn’t go as planned but that happens every single year. While many of the challenges we’ve faced over the last 12 months have been unique, the fact that we were presented with challenges certainly isn’t unique.

Last year happened to be one where we came out on the losing end more than we would have preferred but the fact that we lost a lot of close games doesn’t mean that last year was special or different in any way other than the final results of those games.

Lastly, I hate pot heads.

It could be worse, take a look at Columbus.

I guess there’s always a couple different ways to interpret these things. Also, I had five minutes to develop this message, Ferentz likely had less than five seconds. I’ve never been to an I-Club banquet but I’m assuming this came as a response to a question.

I liked this message. Also, I seem to remember reading an article on here before the bowl game where Ferentz was chastised by the author for acknowledging that there is a particular situation (day after Thanksgiving, I think) where he wouldn’t be overly excited to play a game. If I remember correctly, the author’s contention was that he should have said that we’ll play them today, tomorrow, or the next day and kick their asses. It may have been regarding night games in Arizona or something, either way my point remains. Also, for what it’s worth, I don’t believe that Ferentz even made the statement that was being criticized in that article. So yeah, Ferentz is going to be criticized no matter what he says (in my experience, especially on this site) but who fucking cares? Certainly not Ferentz.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt

by HawKCP on May 29, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

While it may have been in response to a question

Frentz had to know that question, or a variant on it, was coming. And I’m sure he did, and crafted his general response well ahead of time. I just wish the response had been more than a longer, drawn-out version of “stuff happens.”

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on May 29, 2011 12:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Serious question, why do you wish that?

If I were given unlimited wishes from a genie, I wish Kirk Ferentz would give more elaborate answers to questions at I-Club banquets would fall somewhere between I wish I could clog toilets with massive terds whenever I want (probably in the top 25) and I wish I possessed the flexibility and necessary toe nail length to snort lines off of my big toe nail in case I ever decide to start doing cocaine and give up on any semblance of cleanliness (pretty far down the list).

Mostly I just wanted you all to know that if I get granted unlimited wishes from a genie, I will be clogging your toilets if you piss me off. And I know you’re all thinking, I just won’t invite that fucker over. Well, guess what my next wish would be, bitches.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt

by HawKCP on May 29, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

And that's exactly why I maintain 2 residences,

one of the public and their genies to know about, and the one I actually live in. And the one I actually live in has one of those super-vortex flushing toilets.

/laughs in an evil manner.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 29, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

You still have 5-gallon toilets?

Those are worth a fortune. Because people are idiots.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 29, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually don't.

I do own a couple of plungers, though.

To be fair, my house was built in the early 1970s, and the plumbing, electric and soundproofing is all pretty shitty.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 29, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, to have a house.

We’re in apartment land here in West L.A. and the longing for a SFH gets stronger every day.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 29, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I should note that I rent my house.

Which hasn’t been all bad considering I’ve needed one major repair in the last few years, and I also haven’t had to worry about how the mortgage crisis might affect me.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 29, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd for the gray box.

Also, I think the “opponent that Ferentz doesn’t get excited about playing” is pretty much any team that has a coach that he worked with closely in the 80s in IC. Teams like Arizona, Oklahoma, and maybe Kansas State.

On a side note, I wonder if KF is actually not bummed out that he has to play Wisconsin less now? This (the Wisky series) would be one of the few issues where I have to disagree with KF.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 29, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have actually two major points in "He can't be everything to everyone"

1) You guessed it – there are some people that will never be satisfied
2) More importantly – No matter what he says, a certain percentage will have a problem with it. If he says something aggressive, it’s too demeaning to the opponent or not understanding their strenghts. If he points out the flaws in his own team or coaching style it’s not showing enough leadership or dwelling on negatives. If he says it’s a game of inches and close wins are the difference between 11-1 and 7-5, he’s not doing enough to not make them close or not caring about how that’s perceived.

Really, every single thing he says is pretty much no-win because everybody who has a problem with any specific part will always, by human nature, be the first and loudest to respond. Maybe you have a problem with what he said, sounds like you and Ross do. Maybe 50% of people don’t have any problem with it, but I can guarantee you with 100% certainty which side we’ll hear first and loudest. It is that way with every issue, every time. And always will be.

I’m guessing this is one of the reasons Ferentz preaches not rocking the boat and not stirring up media for himself and the entire program, but I don’t think I should be putting words into the mouth of the $4M man who clearly knows how to well run a very large and complicated organization.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 29, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

You guessed it – there are some people that will never be satisfied

This bullet point left me wanting more.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on May 30, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

And the second bullet point left you wanting less, right?

/kidding

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 30, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know if you're serious or making a joke.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on May 30, 2011 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

To me, it makes him seem like he isn’t in it to win it. I would like to hear admit what, I think, a majority of the fanbase thinks. I don’t know, maybe validate that he understands the frustration we are feeling.

I know this has been discussed before but I think he also need to address that Iowa doesn’t deal with these lofty pre-season expectations very well. Does the coaching staff help the boys deal with that? I’m not asking to know specifics of what happens in meetings or practices but it feels, to me, like historically Ferentz coached teams don’t deal well with pressure. Is there a conversation after a loss like the Arizona one where someone says “Hey guys, the season is not lost. There is still plenty of football to be played this season”? When the head coach comes across with an air of “no game is more important than the next. It is too bad that you lost but we played a fundamentally sound game so it doesn’t really matter.” What are the guys supposed to think?

Whatever farm animal of war, Lana. Shut up!

by Carfino'sWay on May 28, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just a thought.

A lot of people subscribe to the philosophy that expectations are of absolutely no consequence to reality. If they are trying to send that message then he absolutely should not address the expectations of the fans and media under and circumstances other than to dismiss them. While he does have some responsibility to speak to the fans of his program, his responsibility lies, first and foremost, with his message to his players and he, of all people, understands the magnitude of comments made to the media. His players absolutely hear those statements and he is just not the type of guy who is going to say, “Hey guys, I know I said one thing to you, and something different to the media, but don’t pay any attention to that, just believe what I say to you.”

As far as him not being in it to win it, there are also a lot of people who attempt to minimize things which are not entirely in their control. Wins and losses have certain uncontrollable variables. Preparation, effort, and execution are the end-all, be-all and wins and losses are a by-product. These people believe that to win while underperforming is worse than losing while performing to the best of your abilities. Some coaches you may have heard of who subscribe to that theory are John Wooden and Dan Gable (from the information I have been able to glean on those two men).

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt

by HawKCP on May 29, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dan Gable wasn't about losing anytime or anywhere.

He expected excellence from everybody on his squad (from the blue chipper to the lowly walk on). The Iowa wrestling squad isn’t about moral victories or excuses.

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by Lycurgus on May 29, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think there came a time,

about 5 or 8 years into his tenure at Iowa (and maybe even before) where Gable just said to himself “Embrace the expectations. It is better to be predicted to win the Big Ten or the NCAAs every year than to not be. I am Keith Hernandez Dan Gable.”

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 29, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those who don't subscribe to the philosophy have a hard time understanding it.

I’m not saying that he minimizes the importance of winning. Rather, I’m saying that he employs a different method of achieving his objective (winning).

Many coaches emphasize what I would call gamesmanship in order to accomplish the same objective (winning). By that I mean that they believe that what happens in the game is what determines the outcome. Some might call this type of coach a strategist. He likes to make sure his athletes know that when they’re in trouble they need to get to the edge and get the fuck out of bounds before they give up two points. These coaches also spend large amounts of time drawing up elaborate schemes in order to gain a decided strategic advantage.

Then there are coaches who believe that, in large part, their job is done once the competition begins. They believe that strategerie is overrated and that gamesmanship is for lesser competitors who can’t win straight up. These are the generals who would rather have both armies line the fuck up and fight each other – may the best man win. These coaches hate the idea of being reactionary because that takes the control out of their hands.

I once heard Urban Meyer talking on a radio show and he was asked how he was able to be so successful at Utah when playing against larger schools. He said something to the effect of, “You tell your guys that for three quarters they need to stay right with their opponent, and if they can go into the fourth quarter within striking distance that they will win the game because they’ve worked harder for the last how many months and they’re the better conditioned athletes.” Then he added, “Now, whether or not your guys are actually in better shape than your opponent, who knows because that’s all relative, but that’s what you tell your guys.”

What the fuck? He admitted that on national radio? I’m going to go out on a limb and say that you would never hear Dan Gable say that.

I think you probably understand Dan Gable and his persona pretty well. Consider the following scenarios and put them in order of how much they would piss off Gable:

1.) If one of his athletes does as told, competes his ass off, and wrestles his own match yet is pitted against a better opponent and ultimately loses.

2.) If one of his athletes skirts confrontation for the entire match, hangs out on the edges, rarely shoots, and pulls the match out at the end by sneaking around the backside of his opponent’s shot.

3.) If an athlete of his, who is the most talented wrestler he’s ever coached, decides that his next match is against one of the weaker wrestlers he’ll see all year and he’s starting to wear down from the long season and it’d probably be best if he just jogs these last few sprints out during practice.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt

by HawKCP on May 29, 2011 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lofty pre-season expectations were yours,

not ours. BCS Bowls? Don’t talk about, BCS Bowls? I just hope we can win a game.

/Kirk Mora-ntz’d

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 28, 2011 4:19 PM CDT reply actions  

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