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This year's night game probably won't look this incredible.

Nightgaming.  As always happens this time of year, ABC/ESPN is getting their ducks in a row and announcing a good chunk of their primetime games for next fall.  That includes the Big Ten games because the Big Ten is old and slow and needs lots of time to prepare for these nighttime encounters.  ESPN/ABC is airing seven primetime games involving B1G teams next fall, but for the first time since 2008, Iowa won't be participating.  Wisconsin fans, on the other hand, better get used to hearing "You are looking live..."; they have four primetime games on ABC/ESPN.  It's almost like they won a conference title and went to the Rose Bowl last year.  Oh, right.

Despite being shunned by ESPN/ABC, Iowa will still be getting their night game on in 2011, per Rittenberg:

The Big Ten Network's primetime football schedule is expected to be finalized soon, most likely next week. I have confirmed that every Big Ten team will have at least one primetime game televised this season. 

Hlas thinks it will be jNW's trip to Iowa on 10/15, which is certainly possible since there's a fairly uninspiring slate of B1G games on tap that day (the best of the lot looks like the Battle for The Great Lakes State between Sparty and Big Blue).  Even though the last two games in the rivalry have been under the lights, I don't think Iowa's trip to Penn State on 10/8 will be in primetime; ABC has already tabbed Ohio State-Nebraska for that night.

It could also be Pitt's trip to Kinnick on 9/17, since it's the rare Big Ten non-conference game that features two teams from BCS leagues.  Or it could be something completely out of the blue; Southern Illinois-Illinois, Akron-Indiana, and Northern Illinois-Minnesota were all primetime games on BTN last year.  

 

Star-divide

 

Up next?  Road movies.  The Norm Parker and Fran McCaffery Happy Fun Comedy Hour continues to do the rounds on the I-Club circuit and the entertainment hasn't let up.  

First up, Norm:

A Michigan graduate and an Iowa graduate both join the army. While serving, both men were captured by the enemy and sentenced to death by firing squad. Each man was granted a last request.

"Before I die," said the Michigan man, "I want to hear the beloved fight song of the University of Michigan, ‘The Victors,’ played."

Upon hearing the Michigan grad’s final request, the Iowa man issued a simple demand.

"Shoot me first."

And then Fran:

After seeing a four-pack of courtside seats auctioned off with the advertised perk of being close enough to noted official Ed Hightower that'd he'd be able to hear your gripes, McCaffery offered a disclaimer.

"I don't care how close you sit to the floor, Ed Hightower still can't hear. I've been screaming at him for 15 years."

There's some other good bits from both guys in those links, so go ahead and click through.

The first 100 is the easy part.  Rittenberg wonders which Big Ten players might have the best shot to top 100 tackles next year, which is the sort of thing you wonder about when you're a college football blogger and it's May and you work for an outlet that doesn't let you just produce transcripts from lost episodes of To Catch A Predator.  Anyway, an Iowa guy makes his list... but probably not the one you'd expect:

4. Iowa S/CB Micah HydeHyde had 82 tackles from the cornerback spot in 2010 and should see that number increase if he plays more safety this fall. Although an Iowa linebacker like James Morris certainly could climb up the tackles chart this fall, Hyde seems to have a knack for being around the football. 

Micah Hyde, really?  It's a pretty safe bet an Iowa player will have 100 or more tackles; at least one Iowa defender has reached that total in at least nine of the past eleven seasons (I couldn't find data for 2002).  It's just that normally that defender is a linebacker.  A linebacker has led the team in tackles in each of the past eight years and until last year that linebacker had always racked up at least 100 tackles.  (Last year Jeremiha Hunter led the team with 90 tackles, a function of a linebacker corps that was slammed by injuries.)  Hyde has certainly shown a knack for amassing tackles; he had 82 tackles as a cornerback last year, the most by any Iowa cornerback since Charles Godfrey had 83 in 2006.  Frankly, it's not a good thing to see an Iowa cornerback making that many tackles; it probably means something has gone horribly awry on defense.

Even if Hyde's move to safety is permanent it's not likely to improve his odds of hitting 100+ tackles all that much; no Iowa safety since Bob Sanders has racked up more than 100 tackles (he did it in both 2001 and 2002).  We like Hyde a lot, but he's not in the same class as Sanders (nor does he play the same position; Sanders was a strong safety, while Hyde figures to be a free safety).  Based on historical trends, an Iowa player probably will get more than 100 tackles in 2011 -- but the smart money is on it being James Morris, not Micah Hyde.

Let's get iconic.  The Big Ten Icons series is returning next fall and winter and this time they're focusing on the one group of Big Ten figures who was notably absent from the first go-round: the coaches.

"I think right now we’re going to do six football coaches in football season and six other coaches probably more toward January-February," Silverman said. "We’re just really trying to find those iconic coaches from whatever program they may be.

Unlike the player-icons, the coaches aren't being ranked; they're just spotlighting twelve coaches who have been hugely significant to their respective programs.  As Scott Dochterman points out, though, this presents something of a conundrum for Iowa.  Some choices are obvious -- Woody, Bo, JoePa, Osborne, Bobby Knight -- but that's not the case for Iowa.  Dochterman narrows it down to four candidates (Hayden Fry, Dan Gable, Kirk Ferentz, and Tom Davis), and even that omits some great coaches (Forest Evashevski, C. Vivian Stringer).  Really, it probably comes down to which you prefer: Dan Gable's absurd reign of dominance for 20+ years in wrestling or Hayden Fry's efforts to resurrect the football program and end the duopoly of Michigan and Ohio State atop the Big Ten.  There's a poll at the link above; go and vote.

SNAP HOOKZ

* Rittenberg's "Hope and Concern" series hits Iowa, with largely predictable results; the strong Insight Bowl performances of returning players like Marcus Coker, Micah Hyde, and James Morris is reason to be hopeful, but the lack of depth in the defensive front seven is concerning.  Yep.

* UpUpDownDown's excellent post on player development continues to produce interesting responses throughout Blogfrica, including this post on recruiting biases from MGoBlog.

* UI women's hoopster Jamie Printy was invited to try out for the USA World University Games team, while Melsahn Basabe was invited to the USA Basketball U-19 training camp; best of luck to all.  It's nice to again have talent worthy of being considered for teams like that.

* To celebrate the 25th anniversary of the Summer Iowa Games, Tim Dwight will be competing in 25 different events; that's cool and all, but it'd be even better if he was doing 25 different timbersports.  

* Get your weekend started off right by watching the greatest Royal Rumble of all-time.

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Bitching about non-con sched

I’m sure I’m not alone in saying I love at least one big-time non-con game each year (sit back down Cyclone). You know, games that would get on prime time TV. Our future non-con schedule is just ridiculous. We’re going to play Pitt 4 times in six years, and nobody else. 2012 and 2013 are a joke. Why is this happening? Is Bloodpunch anticipating a 9 game BIG schedule, so we don’t want to commit to a non 7-game home slate? That has to be it. Still, if Nebraska can figure out a way to play UCLA, The U, and Tennessee, and Wisconsin can figure out how to schedule Oregon State and Virginia Tech, we can do better. Where is the Kickoff Classic when we need it?

by RodgersHasAHose on May 13, 2011 8:23 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm not sure Pitt is much better or worse than Oregon State, UCLA, or Tennessee at this point.

But I certainly see your point and wish the upcoming non-conference slates were a bit sexier. And, yeah, the 2012 and 2013 ones are really bad; if not for the Cyclones, they’d be Kansas State-level bad. I’m not sure who fell asleep at the wheel there, but it’s disappointing. We’ll be pining for the days of Arizona, Syracuse, and Pitt.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on May 13, 2011 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed, but

my beef with Pitt is that it doesn’t really even bring what you’d want out of a good BCS-level non-con that you have to trade a home game for. Meaning, you look to an opponent makes for a tasty TV game. Arizona was that for us last year. Syracuse was the year they played in IC. But both of these first two Pitt games were just regional afternoon TV coverage. What I’m saying is, if we are going to do it, go bigger. Finally, Pitt is just an awful college road game from a fan’s perspective. That last game in Pittsburgh – the stadium was 1/2 full with a bunch of hawk fans making up the other half. At least with Tennessee you get that huge stadium full of fans, or UCLA you get the Rose Bowl. My feeling is Ferentz wants these games to be back East, close to his roots, so I bet we see a steady stream of UConn, Rutgers, Boston College-types when future opponents are named.

by RodgersHasAHose on May 13, 2011 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's so much about being close to his roots as it is about hitting areas where we recruit heavily.

So in that regard it does make a lot of sense. I’m surprised they haven’t tried to put together a series with Maryland yet.

Meaning, you look to an opponent makes for a tasty TV game. Arizona was that for us last year. Syracuse was the year they played in IC.

I think there’s a certain element of luck involved in a lot of those games, too. Arizona turned out to be pretty good the last few years, so that gave last year’s game some juice and reason to be on TV. Syracuse being a night game in ‘07 was kind of inexplicable, though — they were terrible. I guess BTN just wanted a night game there. Pitt definitely doesn’t bring much from a fun road trip perspective, though.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on May 13, 2011 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ferentz has flat out said

that he want’s non-con road games in recruting territory, so bullseye on that one.

We’re in a bit of a pickle for those games. We’ll always play a cupcake at Kinnick. We’ll be playing Iowa State for the forseeable future. I know there has been debate here and elsewhere about what to do with that game but I don’t see anything changing for political reasons if nothing else. That leaves us one game when B1G goes to 9.

And while we as fans may want to see games against LSU, Notre Dame, Oregon etc., a lot of those teams aren’t very interested in scheduling somebody who could show up and not just beat them, but on a good year flat out whip their ass. And that goes the other way, too. Do you think Barta wants Florida State to roll into IC and curb stomp us? On national TV? Sadly, Iowa does not have a good record against elite teams, so why risk it.

non-con BCS teams will be teams like Pitt, Wake Forest, Baylor, etc. That’s just the reality of it.

"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer

by Flakbait on May 13, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I see more upside than you, perhaps

Is it really such a big deal to lose to a really good team? Unless we are playing for the MNC, then who cares? BIG championship is always goal #1. The Arizona game didn’t make/break our season last year, jNW did. And what do we get by beating Pitt, really? We’ll get the “oh, its only Pitt” thing. Doesn’t move the needle.

I also don’t think there is a shortage of brand names schools that we could get. Schools like USC, LSU, Va Tech, Oregon seem to be willing to do big time home and homes. And we could get Boise St. at a neutral site for sure (Chicago?).

As for the recruiting argument, kids want to play on national tv against big time opponents. That is what geeks them up. Maybe Kirk feels that playing tOSU, Mich, Penn State and now Neb are enough, but I think other programs use these marquee non-cons as big recruiting splashes. A kid in Florida will watch Iowa v. LSU, but that same kid probably won’t watch Iowa v. Pitt in the middle of the afternoon with 30 other games on.

by RodgersHasAHose on May 13, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

The brand name schools you mention aren't accepting a series with Iowa.

They’ll take it with Boise because that becomes the most over-hyped game of the season. It gets talked about for months leading up to the season and it becomes a reference point for the remainder of the season. If you didn’t watch Va Tech v Boise last year, you’d better have a pretty good excuse or else you’re not much of a college football fan.

Iowa presents all the potential curb stomping fears for a program that almost any of the big time programs do without the name recognition. Who are fans/media going to get more worked up for Iowa or Miami (FL)?

That is at least part of the reason why we’re stuck with the Arizona, Missouri, Pitt, Syracuse’s of the college football world.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt

by HawKCP on May 13, 2011 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

you cant have one baddass win

without the chance of a baddass loss
tOSU still plays for the MNC with a badass loss
and it makes it easier for them with a badass win
i dont like them but i do respect they schedule one badass non conference annually
and i concur the B1G trophy should be our yearly quest
losing to a quality non con won’t stall that effort at all
and it beats the shit out of a win over pitt

Long Live the Pellican Whore - like FOREVER

by OhioHawk on May 14, 2011 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Losing to anyone

is a death blow to any Iowa MNC chances. The elite schools will always get the benefit of the doubt because, by golly, they’re elites! They must be awesome! At some point during the season, Stoops will post a nice rant about KF and the NCAAF beauty pageant. He explains it better than just about anybody.

I don’t like it, I don’t agree with it, but it is the way of the world.

"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer

by Flakbait on May 14, 2011 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

YOU GUYS ARE JUST LIKE PENN STATE FANS

YOU ARE ALL AFRAID TO PLAY THE MIGHT PANTHERS AND THEIR NINE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Slightly more slatternly than Ohio State's compliance department.

by ReadingRambler on May 13, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Key word
…THE MIGHT PANTHERS…

"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST

by Dip-Shit on May 13, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm gonna take over a team

and rename them like the Sometimes Wildcats or the Apathetic Tigers

I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.

by Pain in the Sash on May 13, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

YOU THINK SPELLING ERRORS DETER A PITT FAN?

NOT SO FAST MY RIEND

Slightly more slatternly than Ohio State's compliance department.

by ReadingRambler on May 13, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Love that picture of Kinnick

that’s just badass

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by Ted Glover on May 13, 2011 8:23 AM CDT reply actions  

That has to be my favorite picture of Kinnick ever

and that is saying something

"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable

by ClaybornSmash on May 13, 2011 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

That pic is my computer desktop background.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on May 13, 2011 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, especially since it is a November game.

We all know how the B1G Delaney & Co. feel about night games in November.

Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.

by EnergizerHawk on May 13, 2011 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well that and

it’s traditionally been an afternoon game for the Huskers.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on May 13, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds like ABC already has BC/Miami slotted in November 25th at 2:30pm

Peeps in Lincoln/Omaha are thinking an 11am kick for Hawks-Huskers.

by djwoody on May 13, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

BC/Miami could easily be a regional broadcast.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on May 13, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not seeing anything on ESPN.

All I saw was an lsufootball.net thing saying that. ESPN has only LSU – Arkansas and Cal – Az State

http://espn.go.com/college-football/schedule/_/week/13

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on May 13, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Very doubtful, since it's in late November and the B1G is averse to playing night games then.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on May 13, 2011 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's part of it, from what I understand.

Night games create a lot more work for univerisities and the police forces (at least in Iowa City).

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on May 13, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

It really hurts me to say it

But an Iowa / Northwestern prime-time game makes sense if for no other reason than each team is getting one. That way they don’t have to figure out how to get Northwestern one, and apparently we’re not important enough to get another one this year.

I’ll be honest, as a guy with kids, I’m actually glad. It’s easier for me to watch day games, night games take more schedule rearranging (which I will happily do, but it’s more effort to dislodge the kids)

It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?

by chitownhawkeye on May 13, 2011 8:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, it does fit the "kill two birds with one stone" idea.

For that matter, so would Iowa-Indiana a week later.

and apparently we’re not important enough to get another one this year.

I think this year is just a perfect storm of factors against Iowa having a night game. Almost all of Iowa’s “sexy” game are in November (Michigan, Michigan State, Nebraska); Iowa’s coming off a disappointing season and has little buzz this year; and none of their pre-November opponents really have much juice, either. The best of the lot, Penn State, is coming off their own disappointing season — and, again, that game is up against OSU-Nebraska, one of the biggest games in the league this year. (Plus, per Hlas, last year’s primetime Iowa-PSU game got terrible ratings, which doesn’t help — although I think it was up against Stanford-Oregon and Alabama-Florida, so the competition was pretty fierce that night.)

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on May 13, 2011 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

If Iowa perform well up through the first half of the B10 schedule

I think many of our Nov games will be national (just not primetime).

The Nebraska game in particular will probably be the premier game of the day.

by HawkeyeRecon on May 13, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

We could have a lot of 2:30pm starts on ABC in November, yeah.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on May 13, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

The way you say it

Really makes me feel more and more like we got the absolute shaft in this whole thing.

I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.

by Pain in the Sash on May 13, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

By not getting a night game?

I really don’t think we got shafted here. Again, the games Iowa has in September and October aren’t that great. The best are probably Pitt, Penn State, and jNW. The Penn State game has features two teams that combined to lose 11 games last year and a primetime game would be on opposite the Ohio State-Nebraska game, maybe the biggest league game of the regular season.

Pitt and jNW could still happen — on BTN — but it’s not hard to see why ESPN/ABC wouldn’t be jumping on those two.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on May 13, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

No

By just the way he said “apparently we’re not important enough to get more than one this year”. I agree with all the night games that got scheduled and our schedule doesn’t really work well to have more than one. Any big game we may have is over shadowed by an even bigger one. And the ESPN/ABC thing isn’t surprising at all. We had huge expectations last year and didn’t live up so why would they (ESPN/ABC) waste their prime time slots on us? But let’s hope they regret their decision come late October

I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.

by Pain in the Sash on May 13, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the only reason we got more than 1 last year is because of daytime desert heat.

If that game was played in Iowa City last year, it would have probably been another 230 game.

by The Mexican't on May 13, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Very good point

I guess I kept on thinking tOSU was a night game but forgot it’s just because it gets dark so fast that time of year.

I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.

by Pain in the Sash on May 13, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Same logic as applied to getting Iowa a “rival”. Fuck you Delany!!!!

by txhawkeye on May 13, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looks like Gable is way out in front

you know it is easy to forget that Gable helped shift the balance of power in wrestling as well. The Big Twelve dominance ended when Dan showed up in Iowa City.

Der Hoelle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen

by Lycurgus on May 13, 2011 9:00 AM CDT reply actions  

While I think Gable is more than deserving (and the one that received my vote)

I feel like BTN is more apt to go with Fry based on football bias alone. I would guess that they will have to have a women’s coach of some sort and I think C. Vivian Stringer would have to be their first choice or Christine Grant because of Iowa’s field hockey dominance durning her tenure.

Whatever farm animal of war, Lana. Shut up!

by Carfino'sWay on May 13, 2011 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd be shocked if it's anything other than Gable.

One, it’ll break up the duopoly of football-basketball coaches. I’d think the BTN would jump at the chance to include a coach from another sport who’s already a household name.

Two, the Gable story tells itself. His life story is a movie script. Hayden’s colorful and engineered the great turnaround, but his folksiness can’t compare to Gable’s drive.

Three, if he’s not the most successful coach in the history of college sports, he’s at least giving Wooden, McDonnell or Counsilman a run for their money.

by Cattlefeeder on May 13, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gable is probably the best choice, but the omission of Evy is sad.

Without Forest Evashevski we would have no history of winning (at least since the 1930s) to look at. We’d essentially be jNW.
I know it seems like a stretch, but do we even hire Hayden Fry without some sort of expectation of winning from the AD/fans? Without the 50s at Iowa it would have been 40+ years of futility, and that can become endemic. It’s like Rambler is always saying about PSU basketball (though they may be turning that around now). “We have a team” (paraphrased) as a collective attitude often leads to unambitious coaching hires. So I’m not 100% convinced that Bump goes out and gets Hayden without a “hey, we want to get back to winning, and know it’s possible” kind of mentality. Of course, looking at Bump’s other hires on the Legendary Coaches list, maybe he was just a competitive motherfucker of an AD (the OG Bloodpunch?) and wanted to win, win, win.
Hard to know for sure. It’s just something I’ve occasionally wondered about.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on May 13, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

About Bump and Evy

Evy was a great coach, but he coached over 50 years ago, and that’s basically beyond ancient history to present BTN watchers. Also, his memory is not entirely a positive one, unlike Hayden. who is practically a saint around here.

Bump was a Michigan man, I recall, and I’d bet it was his FIRST priority to get Iowa good in football, having spent time in a place like Ann Arbor. Even without Evy, Bump would’ve worked his tail off to get Iowa good on the gridiron.

People forget, too, that Iowa was arguably even BETTER in basketball during the Evy years—even made it to an NCAA finals, though they lost to one of the all-time great college BB teams in the San Francisco Dons of Bill Russell. Reminds me of the 1985-1987 era at Iowa, during which both FB and BB hit a #1 ranking at one time or another.

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by The Director on May 13, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I shook Bump's hand last year around the time of the rededication of Evy Drive (shoulda been Evy Way; I think Dave Triplett said as much IIRC).

And soaked up the stories that some of those old timers had to tell. One of the better stories came from Jim Gibbons (who [pic] caught the game winner over Ohio St in 1956 to send us to the Rose Bowl). When asked if he remembered what his thought process was while trying to make that catch he said something pretty close to, ""There was no way I was going to drop that pass. I was too scared to drop it. If I dropped that ball, then I’d have to go over to the sideline where Evy was standing, so I made sure to catch it. ""

by Eyeheartfreedumb on May 13, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Practically a saint?

Hayden is God

Long Live the Pellican Whore - like FOREVER

by OhioHawk on May 14, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm disappointed in the lack of a Ron Swanson dancing while on Snake Juice .gif.

I was sure there’d be on in the first post of the day.

I’m a sad panda.

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by cafreema on May 13, 2011 9:16 AM CDT reply actions  

That's what I'm talking about.

I may be wise, but I have no computer skillz. So you sir are the king.

"There are no Pan Asian supermarkets down in hell, so you can't buy Golden Boy peanuts." - The Mountain Goats

by cafreema on May 13, 2011 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Does anyone know how to save a .gif to one's harddrive on then repost it on, sayy... Facebook.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on May 13, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I saved it to my harddrive, but don't know how to post it to Facebook.

Best I could do was the initial still shot.

"There are no Pan Asian supermarkets down in hell, so you can't buy Golden Boy peanuts." - The Mountain Goats

by cafreema on May 13, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

With all due respect to the Kirk, Hayden and the rest

Dan Gable is the utterly obvious choice here. He’s one of the greatest coaches of all-time, inclusive of all sports.

Although I could see the uber-PC crowd who work in broadcasting giving Vivian the nod due to her, umm, demographics.

And seriously, Dr. Tom over Lute, Forest, Vivian? I don’t see that.

by DrHenryKillinger on May 13, 2011 9:28 AM CDT reply actions  

Additionally, Gable's influence goes far beyond wins and losses

He changed the whole culture and complexion of the sport. His training philosophies and approach to wrestling has seeped into every corner of US wrestling through his own influence and that of the coaches he trained. He is synonymous with one of the main “styles” of collegiate wrestling and he has a shoe line named after him. His impact really transcends the head coach position. He is the elder statesman of US wrestling.

Der Hoelle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen

by Lycurgus on May 13, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Gable helped create one of the best of the three styles:

Oklahoma State “We’re giant pussies” Style

Dan Gable “Arrrgh me angry 3rd is mine aarrrrrgh kill rage” Style

Unicorn Style (newest style)

Slightly more slatternly than Ohio State's compliance department.

by ReadingRambler on May 13, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm.
Unicorn Style (newest style)

That’s the “get pinned in under 5 minutes in the finals” style, right?

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by RossWB on May 13, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, it’s the exciting, big moves style. He’ll be unstoppable soon! Kolat in high school levels of unstoppable!

I did forget the 4th and 5th styles:

The Bubba Jenkins Make Up Injustices and Harp On Them Constantly Style

Fake Tan Style

Slightly more slatternly than Ohio State's compliance department.

by ReadingRambler on May 13, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I prefer my definition.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on May 13, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

You also forgot the Robles, Robles, Robles style.

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by Swarley on May 13, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not many guys have the commitment for that style.

Losing a limb is serious business.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on May 13, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, it's better than PSU's former approach

the “we are just happy with top ten” style

Der Hoelle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen

by Lycurgus on May 13, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

So we've got schools with obvious ones

I hope BTN trolls jNorthwestern by selecting their Women’s Lacrosse coach. Granted, he or she probably deserves it after bringing 3 times as many national championships to Evanston than any sport at jNU combined.

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by Pain in the Sash on May 13, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Without going all sacrilegous and whatnot, I have daughters that play lacrosse – I’ve coached, administrated, etc. Kelly Amonte Hiller is already viewed as a transformative figure. She’s changed the way the sport is played. Just my $.02.

by txhawkeye on May 13, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I understand

I actually thought, you know, she does deserve to be acknowledged for her work. Winning that many consecutive championships is nothing to scoff at especially in a sport that is usually dominated by the East Coast. I honestly don’t know of another coach at jNU that should get it. But her biggest setback is being at a woman’s sport that isn’t basketball or volleyball.

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by Pain in the Sash on May 13, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even including Dr. Tom is embarassing

He never won a conference title, and I believe only finished 2nd once (in ‘97, and got swept by the Gophers that year). Made it past the Sweet 16 once. And he is an icon? He’s ahead of KF in the voting, which is pitiful. Let alone Lute, Miller, Stringer, Evy, Jones, O’Connor… even Brands or Zalesky or Blevins or Grant. All of those coaches actually won something.

by H I McDonnough on May 13, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have you mentioned Gatens - Cartwright playing with the US All Star Team in Estonia or something?

Obviously, Basabe is awesome. But Gatens and Cartwright don’t seem like standout talents (although I don’t know the level of other guys on the team). Does anyone think Fran maybe has some sort of more pull or connections or is just more diligent in trying to get players on these teams?

Another recruiting chip in the bag, for sure.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on May 13, 2011 9:51 AM CDT reply actions  

The Estonia thing was in INP two days ago.

I don’t think it’s much of a reach to suggest that Fran has better connections in the coaching world than Lickliter.

But Gatens (as a pending senior) and Cartwright are also way better than just about anyone Lickliter had on his three teams at Iowa, too.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on May 13, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

true on the last statement

And I thought you guys may have mentioned it, but I didn’t notice it.

And I’m sure the Estonia trip is no great shakes, and Cartwright (especially) and Gatens do have specific skill sets that if you want a team to play cohesively with little practice, they’d be good for it.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on May 13, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

That probably helps, too.

They’re both experienced, Gatens is a good defender and (mostly) a good outside shooter. Cartwright is good at taking guys off the dribble and a solid passer.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on May 13, 2011 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hehehe
But Gatens (as a pending senior) and Cartwright are also way better than just about anyone Lickliter had on his three teams at Iowa, too.

That’s not even, like, true.

IMO, they aren’t even better, much less way better, than Tony Freeman, Jake Kelly, or Aaron Fuller. Granted, if this team is only inclusive of seniors-to-be then you’re probably right.

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by HawKCP on May 13, 2011 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have one thing to say about the Royal Rumble

So….Many….Mullets.

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by Pain in the Sash on May 13, 2011 11:39 AM CDT reply actions  

I saw Norm at a I-Club event once and it was AW3ESOME

It was the year after OMHR ran all over us and he was still pissed about it. I didn’t guarantee that they would score on us the next year, he only said the won’t fucking run on us. Then someone asked him why he was so quite most of the time and he came up with this gem, “the less I say, the less I have to take back.” I wish I could stick to that sometimes.

Also, sorry to be the ass to point this out, but you said there wasn’t any 2002 data for tackles then said Bob has 100+ in 2002. Can you just see all of them in your head Rain Man style, or are you lying to us? Either way, it just shows that someone does it almost every year and my money would be on Morris.

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by 6 seconds of hell on May 13, 2011 1:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Sorry, unclear wording there.

I couldn’t find team data for 2002. I found individual data for Bob that listed his tackle totals for each season. My guess is that he was probably neck and neck with Fred Barr in 2001 and 2002 for most tackles on the team. In fact…

(does research)

Yep. Barr had 116 in 2001 and 114 in 2002. Just because of the way our defense works, MLB is going to get the most tackles, assuming they stay healthy.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on May 13, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

No problem

The only reason I caught it is I am finishing a manuscript for publication right now and I’m in proof-reading mode. And yes, I know there are mistakes in my post above, oh irony.

The base 4-3 cover 2 is a MLB’s dream if hes good enough to make the plays. Things are funneled to him and he has some freedom when reading plays (see Angerer). Thats why Morris stressed me out last year. But he has me excited for the next few as I think he has great potential.

Out of curiosity, where do you go for research like this. I have had a hard time finding defensive stats in the past.

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by 6 seconds of hell on May 13, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

The second game my dad saw him play in

He said “That’s your next Iowa All-American (at Linebacker)”. Several games later, the talking heads were saying the same thing. I’m thrilled about him.

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by Pain in the Sash on May 13, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

He has great instincts. That’s something you can’t learn. If he stays a little more disciplined in pass coverage he should be the complete package.

"If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be research." -Albert Einstein

by 6 seconds of hell on May 13, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

One thing that may not have been pointed out is the fact that he didn't play full games as a Junior and Senior..

(Okay, I don’t remember if he played the whole game when he played QB when the starter went down. He may have in that game. And I think Regina may have taken them to the wire one time. So maybe two whole games in two seasons.)

But the kid put up outrageous stats as a RB, and generally only played half of each game (why risk injury when you’re up by six touchdowns in the second quarter, especially with a college future). If he’d really cared about putting up video game numbers (and the press he could have received) he probably could have made that happen.

[I should say too that I’m not creepy. I just like to listen to football on a.m. radio on Friday nights in the fall- – gets me primed for Saturdays- – and I know a guy who lives in Solon and was always talking about “James” did this and “James” did that as a sophomore…, so I listened to their games until halftime and then would flip around and find another game.]

by Eyeheartfreedumb on May 13, 2011 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Archives section of Hawkeye Sports has data for every season going back through 2003.

They include defensive stats there, too.

With Barr and Bob Sanders, I just googled them. Their official Iowa player pages are still out there on the interwebs and they contain season-by-season stats.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on May 13, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gracias

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by 6 seconds of hell on May 13, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps the night game will be an away game

I believe Barta has said he does not anticipate a home night game in 2011. Though every Big 10 team may have a night game, it doesn’t mean it’s at home.

by H I McDonnough on May 13, 2011 8:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Fred Barr led the Hawks in 2002 with 114 tackles

and Bob Sanders came in with 102 tackles for the year, for what its worth.

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by Kluginator on May 16, 2011 3:34 PM CDT reply actions  

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