Forgotten Classics: #17 Iowa 30, #9 Wisconsin 7 (2004)
H/T to The Hawkeye Historian for uploading this tremendous video and to FOTP PlannedSickDays for linking to it.
30-7? That doesn't sound like much of a classic. It sounds like a one-sided assbeating. In this case, that's partly true and partly a case of a deceptive final scoreline. This was a tense, close game throughout the first half: the Iowa offense struggled to get untracked while the Iowa defense kept stonewalling the Wisconsin offense. Eventually Iowa scored late in the first quarter; Wisconsin got an answering score partway through the second quarter. Iowa got a long bomb TD pass from Tate-to-Solomon late in the quarter to open up a 14-7 lead at the break. Until that point, it was a nerve-wracking, could-go-either-way game. After that score -- and after the halftime break -- it was pretty much all Iowa. But that's part of what made the game such a classic, too.
* The atmosphere for this game was incredible. I lived in Iowa City from August 2000 to May 2008 and went to most every home game in that span; I was fortunate enough to be there for the entire awesome three-year span from 2002 to 2004 and for many, many, many great games. And to this day I still count the '04 Iowa-Wisconsin game among the top five games I was able to see in person. The atmosphere for that game was absolutely mind-meltingly insane. It was a mid-afternoon kickoff and "The Game" had gone down earlier that day, with Ohio State doing Iowa a solid -- they knocked off Michigan, opening up the door to chaos at the top of the conference. Whoever won the Iowa-Wisconsin game would get a share of the Big Ten title with Michigan. If Wisconsin won, they'd head to the Rose Bowl (they'd be tied with Michigan at 7-1 in the conference, but there was no head-to-head tiebreaker between the two teams and Wisconsin would have had the better overall record at 10-1 to Michigan's 9-2). If Iowa won, they'd get a share of the title -- but no Rose Bowl trip, thanks to a loss to Michigan earlier in the season.
In any event, everyone in the stands knew what the stakes were when the game began and there was an extra level of excitement on top of everything else -- Senior Day, a game against a top-ten foe, the Badgers, the home winning streak (at 17 consecutive wins back then), the overall winning streak (6 and counting). People were fucking amped for that game. It was loud and it stayed loud and racous for almost the entire game. I remember the second half being especially deafening once Iowa opened up a two-score lead. There was a feeling at that point -- with that defense, at home, and with the way the game was going -- that there was no way Wisconsin would come back. We were just waiting for the clock to hit 00:00 so that the party could really get started.
And what a party it was: I still remember swarming down on the field with 30-40,000 of my closest Hawkeye friends (and briefly wondering if I was going to get trampled in the melee), eager to celebrate a Big Ten title earned at Kinnick Stadium. I still remember seeing Jim Delany present Kirk Ferentz with a Big Ten Championship trophy. Being able to celebrate a Big Ten Championship at home was pretty fantastic, too. I'm not positive, but it looks like Iowa hadn't been able to do that since 1985 and a 31-9 win over Minnesota at Kinnick. The 2002 Big Ten season was utterly wonderful, but we didn't get to officially celebrate a Big Ten crown until knocking off the Gophers in the Metrodome. Granted, that celebration brought its own special charms, but still: being able to celebrate a Big Ten title in Kinnick was extraordinary.
* Drew Tate was a goddamn magician. There are two things about the Iowa offense that really stand out in that highlight video. One, there isn't a single highlight of a running back; 2004 was the first year AIRBHG made his wrath fully known and started a RB apocalypse that ended with Slammin' Sam Brownlee, a little-known walk-on from Emmetsburg headlining the depth chart for much of the back half of the season (although Aaron Mickens (11) and Marques Simmons (13) led the team in carries against Wisconsin). Two, Drew Tate was a wizard in the pocket and one of the most gifted quarterbacks Iowa has had in the last twenty years. The image of him spinning free from an on-rushing defender, squaring up in the pocket and then launching a beautiful rainbow downfield into Solomon's waiting hands for the second touchdown is just pure poetry. And in 2004 it seemed like he made at least one play like that every single game.
Mind you, he had some help: Clinton Solomon was on the receiving end of many of those passes and touchdowns and he looked like an absolute stud (he was also Shonn Greene before Shonn Greene was Shonn Greene, flunking out after his freshman year before using a stint at Kirkwood to earn another shot at Iowa -- a shot that he took full advantage of). Scott Chandler is also notable in those highlights, making clutch catches, dragging defenders for extra yards, or lunging into the end zone for a touchdown. (Not visible in the highlights but just as important was Ed Hinkel, who seemed to have hands made of glue and was every quarterback's dream for a safety blanket.) In hindsight, it's too bad we couldn't have sealed their careers in amber after the 2004 season; Tate, Solomon, and Chandler all returned for the 2005 (and, in Tate and Chandler's case, the 2006 season), but the good times were (mostly) gone by then. Consequently, the magical memories they conjured in 2004 were covered with dirt and grime from the indignities of 2005 and 2006 -- Tate spiking his helmet at Ohio State in 2005 or taking a swing at Herb Grigsby in 2006 (in hindsight: he probably deserved it), Solomon having a droptastic game against Michigan in 2005 or Chandler developing butterfingers against Ohio State in 2006. It's impossible now to remember the heroism without some of the warts, too; that may be more realistic, but it's a hell of a lot less fun.
* Matt fucking Roth and the rest of the tough-as-nails Iowa defense were legendary. You can make a very persuasive argument that the 2009 Iowa defense was better than the 2004 Iowa defense; there are probably stats that back it up. Hell, there's no shortage of memorable defensive plays from the 2009 crew -- Sash's pinball pick-six; Clayborn's smash-and-grab against Penn State**; hell, the entire second half against Penn State; the goalline stand against Michigan State; Spievey's diving interception against Wisconsin; Tarpinian hitting Darryl Stonum into the Iowa River**; etc. But I don't know if they'll ever occupy the same place in my heart as the '04 wrecking crew. The cast of characters on the 2004 defense was so colorful, so exciting, so flat-out awesome that it's hard not to love them to bits.
** Yeah, I know these were technically special teams plays; just roll with it.
Matt Roth was a fucking animal in 2004. His numbers were good -- 49 tackles, 15 TFL, 8 sacks, 3 forced fumbles -- but his influence went beyond numbers. He was the emotional heart and soul of the defense and, frankly, a bit of a lunatic. He wore Road Warriors face paint, jumped around like a madman, taunted opponents, and screamed his head off. He was unhinged in all the best ways. It's probably not coincidence that the best Iowa defenses have had guys like that at the heart of them (Roth in 2003 and 2004, Angerer in 2008 and 2009). If BHGP had existed in 2004, Matt Roth would have been our patron saint of batshit insanity and the star of our deranged fantasies. We would have written dialogues around his insanity and composed ballads to his berserker behavior. And yet he wasn't even the best player on that defense. Hell, he wasn't even the best player on that defensive line. Jonathan Babineaux had better stats -- 55 tackles, 25 TFL, 11 sacks, 3 forced fumbles -- and was the more effective player and the more destructive force... and he did it from the defensive tackle position, to boot. (He's also been the better pro.) Babineaux, really, was what we all hoped Christian Ballard would eventually become (although he never did); he was the underappreciated wrecking ball of the defense.
There were so many other stars on the '04 defense, too: Abdul Hodge and Chad Greenway, still the gold standard for Iowa linebacking duos; Jovon Johnson, always undersized but with an uncanny knack for getting the ball; and Sean Considine, the proto-Tyler Sash who blew up the running game and made timely plays on the ball in pass coverage. And that's without even mentioning the really unheralded guys, like George Lewis or Tyler Luebke or Derrick Robinson. That defense was spectacular and it did so for a team that needed every ounce of defensive brilliance to reach the heights it reached that year. Offense can only muster two field goals against Penn State? No problem; the defense will hold them scoreless. Offense runs out of steam against Minnesota and Purdue? No big deal; the defense will make big plays down the stretch to lock up the victory. And sometimes the defense was absolutely stifling even when it didn't quite need to be, as in blowout wins over Ohio State and Wisconsin. They were a special defense and I adored watching them put the clamps on opposing teams.
I will never forget that 2004 Iowa team, nor the magical throttling of Wisconsin that capped off that regular season. There have been better Iowa teams in the past and there will undoubtedly be better Iowa teams in the future, but there have been few Iowa teams as special or memorable as that team. And videos like this go a long way in explaining exactly why that team was so special.
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What an afternoon/evening . . .
That also marks the last time my good friend and Badger friend from Madison came down to a game at Kinnick. Seeing a Rose Bowl trip ripped from Bucky’s hands in front of delirious, screaming Iowa fans was too emotionally devastating for him.
I like the guy, but hey, FUCK Bucky!
I had a Wiscy friend at that game too.
It was a definitive game for me in a number of ways, but the insane atmosphere coupled with the fact that my friend sat with me in the student section and didn’t get even a single ounce of shit from those around us really represents what I love about Iowa home games.
I vividly remember yelling “sorry!” over my shoulder as I skipped down to the field. Great, great day.
Spare me your space-age techno-babble, Attila the Hun.
by KilometersDavis on May 10, 2011 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, funny that we both remember this game similarly
I remember some douchebag telling me to chill out, because celebrating a B10 championship was “embarrassing” him in front of his friends from Wisky.
Why yes, I do question his loyalty….
That was also the year Kirk's father passed away
So when Kirk accepted the trophy, and made a little speech, he was crying, my wife cried, players cried—very, very emotional moment.
I’ve always said it was this season that cemented Kirk as an Iowa coach, and not a “when will he leave?” NFL coach. It seemed to redefine his priorities: his father dying, the resilience of this Iowa team against all those injuries, the win against Wisky, the amazing bowl win. After that was all through, KF seemed to lose serious interest in the NFL, to my mind. As bad as the RB injuries were, this team seemed charmed at the end.
Also, that Wisky game was cold. But you wouldn’t have known it at the end! Seemed like summer out there when Kirk hoisted the trophy.
"Apparently, riding Joe Paterno like a small horse is FROWNED UPON IN THIS ESTABLISHMENT!"
God, that postgame
Any Iowa fan who’s ever seen has at least misted up, I guarantee it. Crazy emotional.
Yeah, I was a little surprised not to see any of the post-game interview with Holly Rowe in that video.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I watch that H.R. interview a couple of times a year.
It’s at the end of one of Scothawk’s best videos. Damn if I don’t still get a lump in my throat.
http://www.scothawk.com/flvswfpublish/2004highlights/winning.swf
The Scothawk video is great, yeah.
Wish his videos were up on Youtube.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
It's funny you should mention that re: the weather.
Usually I can remember when the weather was a part of a memorable game — I still remember the snow and cold from the ‘00 win over jNW or the cold rain from the ’07 Illinois game — but in this case I don’t remember the cold at all. I just remember being unbelievably, deliriously happy.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
This game and PSU '08 were both bitterly cold
My wife reminds me of that every time I talk about those games. I, however have no recollection of being cold at either of those games.
That's what your mother said, Trebek.
Although it's not the first thing I remember about PSU '08
I have no trouble remembering just how cold that game was. I thought I was going to lose some toes that night. I learned a valuable lesson regarding the importance of warm socks after that game.
by The Mexican't on May 10, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I went shirtless
for the fourth quarter of that game.. I felt fine!
He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on May 11, 2011 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I honestly don't remember it being particularly cold at all
Jumping up and down most of the game, coupled with being surrounded by 70,000 screaming fans kept me pretty warm I think. My brother and I still look back on that as one of, if not the best game we’ve been to at Kinnick in terms of atmosphere.
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
I remember both days
being cold as I’ve been in my life. Particularly tailgating for the PSU game. I never realized how short Drew Tate was until rushing the field post-Wisconsin. I lost my voice for a few days after that one. We also had some friends from Wisconsin come down and stay at our party palace on South Johnson. They may not be the brightest, but man they had some hotties supporting them.
I remember about 4 details of that hazy day against PSU. 1) Cold as shit tailgating 2) $200 bar tab 3) Going nuts after the fieldgoal and 4) Going home with 2 chicks that same night
A few points
1) Nice pull on #4 there.
2) That day also happened to be my brother’s last college football game, in Moorhead, MN, which is right next to Fargo, ND. For those of you unfamiliar with a map, that is very far north. Coldest goddamn game I’ve ever been to. However, we did get to catch the 2nd half of the Iowa game at Bennigan’s, and were jumping up and down like a bunch of crazy people after Murray hit the kick while the rest of the people in the bar looked at us. Great times.
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
I also thought KF's last hurrah with the NFL was right after the '05 season.
I remember the lead-up to the Outback Bowl and there was a LOT of talk about KF to an NFL job (Jacksonville, I think). It seemed pretty plausible since Iowa had failed to live up to sky-high expectations in ‘05 and he was still a hot candidate after the ’02-’04 glory years. But, yeah, when he stayed after the magical ‘04 season and again after the hot and heavy rumormongering after the ’05 season, it really felt like he wasn’t going anywhere, even if his name got trotted out every off-season.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
That second TD pas from Tate to Solomon
is why Drew Tate will always be one of my favorites. His ability to scramble out of a sack and still find his receiver 50 yards down field was something else.
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
Student at Iowa from 03-07
and been to a number of games from outside that timespan. Best game I’ve ever been to, without question.
Also, the students still had the kickass sideline seats for that season. I think they got moved to the endzone in 05.
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
YES!
I forgot to mention that, but it was the final game before the Kinnick renovations and the accompany reseating for the students. God, I loved the seats in the old student section.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Some areas were borderline dangerous after TDs because of mosh-like celebrations
To me it’s always felt like something is missing from the post-renovation student section (beyond just the viewpoint, obviously). I’ve always felt the atmosphere at Kinnick took a hit because of the reseating.
Spare me your space-age techno-babble, Attila the Hun.
by KilometersDavis on May 10, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I felt the same way.
There are a few exceptions — the atmospwhere before the ‘06 Ohio State game was extraordinary and I’m told it was incredible at the ‘08 Penn State game — but in general I’ve never felt like it was quite as good as it was before the reseating.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Without question the atmosphere changed
Kinnick is still a tough place to play, but when the students took up a third of one sideline – I think the student section went from the back of the north end zone to about the 30 or 35 yard line pre-renovation – the north end of the stadium was pratically a death trap for opponents. Couple it with the bowl effect at the other end created by the south stand practically touching the east and west stands, and it’s no wonder Iowa won 22 straight in Kinnick once KF and crew got things going in the right direction.
The sideline seats in the new student section are still cramped and tight, but it feels like the end zone seats are just too spread out and sound is lost through the gaps. I wish they had designed the south end so the bowl effect was maintained. It’s cool the team enters through the students, but it’s just not the same.
I was a junior at Iowa that year. What an insane atmosphere, trumped only by the 2006 OSU game in my mind. I think everyone was amped for the game, but when the OSU-Michigan game ended a couple hours before the Iowa game kicked off and news spread that OSU won, the intensity of the drinking picked up by about a thousand levels.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
2004 was the best D of the Ferentz era. Much agreed there, Ross
2008 the best offense (unabashed Shonn Greene hyperpartisan here)
2002 the most memorable
2009 the most fun
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
I love Shonn Greene, but 2002 was the best offense.
The ‘02 offense as a goddamn machine. Even Ferentz’s inherent hyperconservatism couldn’t keep them from scoring 40ppg.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
2008's overall ppg are skewed by the dying remnants of JC6
and the early handcuffs on Ricky in the first half of the season. At the end of the year it was the best offense we’ve ever had IMO.
This may be only me in this corner, but I actually still think this was the best team overall in the Ferentz era. They had four very tough, close, losses, the big win over #3 PSU, and the rest were practically blowouts against decent-to-good teams.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on May 10, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I just can't place it higher than #2.
The offense was clicking in the second half of the year — and it still threw up that turd of a game against Purdue. Iowa should have wiped the floor with those losers but despite 200+ yards from Shonn, OMHR was a completed hail mary away from winning that game. They also struggled against an iffy Illinois team fairly late in the year, well after the JC6 stench had been washed away.
The 2002 offense was unreal, though. They had the odd clunker (24-8 over Indiana or the 31-28 Purdue win that featured a ton of special teams points), but they absolutely bombed the likes of Michigan State, Northwestern, and Minnesota (44+ in all three games). That Northwestern game was the closest I’ve ever seen Iowa come to offensive perfection under Ferentz/KOK. They could do anything they wanted that day. If Ferentz had been a dick, he could have scored 80+ that day. I think it also says a lot that they performed at a high level against the two toughest defenses they played in the regular season (they scored 30+ on both Penn State and Michigan) and did so on the road, in hostile environments.
I like the 2008 offense a lot and I don’t have much trouble placing them #2 on the list of Ferentz offenses, but I just can’t stick them ahead of the 2002 offense. That offense was just so phenomenal.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Pretty fair analysis
I know that I am blinded by my lust for Shonn Greene and the run game in general.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on May 10, 2011 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember that turd of a game against Purdue
and it was just as cold as the PSU game the week before and it was incredibly windy that day. Winds were consistently in the 30 mph range in mid-November. They definitely didn’t play well that day – not arguing that – but the weather was a huge factor.
They should not have lost to that Illinois team under any circumstance. Far too many drives stalled inside the 10 with either a field goal or no points at all.
The 08 offense was good, but they had the early season QB dance and had some struggles late in the year at times. I really don’t think they caught their stride until the 55-0 game in the dome. Remember – they crushed Wisconsin then had struggles in their next three games at various times with Illinois, Penn State, and Purdue before the 55-0 bathroom game. The 2008 offense was great, but 2002 is clearly a step above. 2002 was far, far more consistent than 2008.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
'08 Purdue was my first game in a few years.
It was horrible. The Nephew was supposed to go with me but he got the flu the night before, lucky bastard. At one point in the 4th quarter I thought I was going to lose a toe. It was because of that game that I bought my first pair of Uggs. I think that is the coldest I remember being at an Iowa game, the lack of offense did not help. Mitch King cut his hair before that game and it was very upsetting to me.
Whatever farm animal of war, Lana. Shut up!
by Carfino'sWay on May 11, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
But that means you got to witness the birth of Duong-ing someone
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
by Pain in the Sash on May 11, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
I think consistency is the issue.
Shonn was obviously absurdly consistent in 2008… but no one else on offense was. Sometimes the offense erupted (Indiana, Wisconsin, Minnesota), but it also sent far too many turds.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
That was a major problem I had with that year.
It was the first time I got on the bandwagon with the KOK haters. Too many times we had drives stall in the red zone when we had THE BEST RUNNING BACK IN THE COUNTRY. And a bruiser at that. Feed the beast in that area, man. Stop with the damn passing. It cost us the Illinois game for sure, and probably a couple others.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on May 11, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I love the 2004 team.
But my favorite memory of that team will still be the 6-4 game. Perverse I know. I was in Madison for their homecoming against jNW. The PSU game was on one tiny TV in the corner of the bar I was at across from Camp Randall and with the party going on all around me I stood and watched the Iowa – PSU game. Just a good day and a great party all around. Guess it’s just one of those days you don’t forget for some reason…
Fuck tOSU
I totally concur
I love watching Defensive games, and this was the ultimate gold standard.
Iowa was not even slightly concerned that PSU would score after Kirk’s FU safety. How often do you see that?
by DrHenryKillinger on May 11, 2011 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I loved this game
And was lucky enough to have a friend save me a great seat down in the studen section about ten rows up at (if I recall correctly) the 35. I was on that field in a heartbeat when the clock struck 0:00.
Really, as a student from 01-05 there were some more dramatic games, and some that meant more to the program, but this one was still exceptionally sweet.
I saved Schlicher the Kicker's life on that day.
In the mosh pit that was Kinnick that night after the game, some crazy asses grabbed Schlicher picked him up and forced him to crowd surf. A small clearing opened up next to me because some dumb ass fell down, and it happened to be right at the moment that Schlicher was being passed over us. He was dropped like a sack of garbage head-first and I just happened to catch his little ass before he was rendered quadrapaligic.
It was just a crazy ass scene in Kinnick that afternoon, and I loved every moment of it. I’ve been to every home game since ’03 and this game sits at #2 on my list of favorite games attended.
That's what your mother said, Trebek.
The TD at 5:35
is still the first image that pops into my head when I think of Drew Tate, even before Tate-Holloway.
For whatever reason that play has always defined Tate in my mind.
Spare me your space-age techno-babble, Attila the Hun.
by KilometersDavis on May 10, 2011 4:03 PM CDT reply actions
Yep
That sums him up. Fearless, potentially reckless with a little bit of “calm the fuck down, I got this”.
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
by Pain in the Sash on May 11, 2011 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions
This
"calm the fuck down, I got this".
I could not have said it better. That is Tate in a nutshell.
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
The thing I remember most from that game
is the two early interceptions that Tate threw in our own end of the field and not having a shread of worry about our defense taking care of business. “Don’t bitch, just put out the fire” at its very best.
MATT ROTH
Goddamnit, we need some new batshit craziness on this team. Clayborn played surly, but Roth played like he was on fire, complete with screams.
"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."
He IS so fucking crazy.
Caged chaos.
I would LOVE to see another guy that could sit there and visibly (on television) talk shit to the opposing team. You could even tell who he was talking to, and at times it seemed like you’d see the guy visibly react, and then like a predator sprung into action when the prey flinches he’d go do exactly what he (seemingly) said he was going to do.
[Though I never saw him fuck anyone’s mother on the sidelines, and I’m pretty sure I saw him say that once. So even “Two Words” seems to have his limits.]
Doing the third-down-stop clap was classic, and a great way to get the fans to love you.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on May 10, 2011 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Guys like that are special.
It takes a real man to know how to trashtalk not just for the purpose of talk, but to mentally ruin the opponent. Penn State hasn’t had a guy like Roth since Chet Parlavecchio back in 1981. He’s the guy who spent the week before the game with #1 Pitt mocking Pitt’s tough schedule, which consisted of, in his words, “Rutgers, Temple, and Thiel.” He so annoyed Pitt that their legendary testicle-cutting leader, Jackie Sherill, grabbed him in the first quarter and nearly got into a fistfight with him. Penn State recovered from an early 14-0 deficit and went on to hand Pitt the worst loss in their entire history: a 48-14 pounding in Pittsburgh.
So, anyway, much as I hate trashtalking and Miami-type posturing, I sometimes wish PSU and Iowa could have a guy like Roth or Parlavecchio more often.
Slightly more slatternly than Ohio State's compliance department.
by ReadingRambler on May 10, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I can sum up Matt Roth's awesomeness in two words...
Iowa Hawkeye Pride
by DrHenryKillinger on May 11, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I noticed two things that were missing from the '10 Hawkeyes
1) Pure, unadulterated excitement. After a key 3rd down pickup by Chandler, it almost seems like the other players are racing to be the first to celebrate with him. This kind of excitement shows up continually in the highlihgts.
2) This team was MEAN. This was the end of Iowa’s run as the “Bullies of the Big Ten.” The offsetting personal fouls were caused by an obvious cheap shot by an Iowa player. Say what you want, but the 2002-2004 Iowa Defenses intimidated their opponents.
I maybe engaging in some selective remembering, but those were two attributes that were definitely missing from the ’10 Hawkeyes.
Thoughts?
"An out of context quote to support my world view." -Some Dead Guy
Yep.
1) Pure, unadulterated excitement. After a key 3rd down pickup by Chandler, it almost seems like the other players are racing to be the first to celebrate with him. This kind of excitement shows up continually in the highlihgts.
I do wonder if this was a function of the pressure this team felt; the best Iowa teams (02, 04, 08, 09) have operated with little or no pressure or expectations; it’s a lot easier to play loose and energetic in those circumstances. KF still hasn’t mastered how to coach a team to deal with expectations.
2) This team was MEAN. This was the end of Iowa’s run as the "Bullies of the Big Ten." The offsetting personal fouls were caused by an obvious cheap shot by an Iowa player. Say what you want, but the 2002-2004 Iowa Defenses intimidated their opponents.
Yeah, I forgot to mention that about Roth. He was good for a personal foul penalty at least every other game, but you put up with it because he’d do 2-3 other killer plays that more than made up for it — and it was the sort of personal foul penalty that was good. It lit a fire under the team and it intimidated opponents. That’s fine. I like guys that do that — guys like Sanders or Roth or Angerer. I think the best defenses absolutely have guys that do that. And, yeah, that was definitely missing from the ‘10 defense. There weren’t enough guys with a mean streak or a crazy streak in that bunch. I hope there’s someone like that on the ’11 defense.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
While the Personal Fouls were entertaining, I don't think that's it.
He was also good for about an offsides call per game, which inevitably wound up with the tackle he was across from landing on his ass. Not to mention all the other asses on the ground after everybody else went on “set”. Like the non-shooter up there mentioned, those guys were just fucking MEAN.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on May 10, 2011 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm assuming a "Non-Shooter" refers to 0331...
Hey, if I can’t hit something with one bullet…might as well give me a belt of 100, a tripod, a T&E, and a team leader, bound to hit something by pure chance.
"An out of context quote to support my world view." -Some Dead Guy
I knew it.
I saw it sworn in front of multiple people that that was what happened to people with pizza boxes.
Heavy on the kidding of course.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on May 10, 2011 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh the pizza box...
To be honest, there were a few times I was sweating it out just to get the pizza box. I always qualified as an expert with the pistol, however…go figure.
"An out of context quote to support my world view." -Some Dead Guy
I've never quite figured out how 0311 was a "reward".
Might be just me though. I recall thinking at the time that not having to carry the 60E3 or a 60mm was awesome though.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on May 10, 2011 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
60mm baseplate that is.
But fuck the rest of the 60 and 81, while I’m thinking of it. But especially fuck the M2. Heavy MFers.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on May 10, 2011 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah...weapons platoon kinda suuuuuccks
This biggest pain in the ass, however, was the ammo. 7lbs per 100 round belt. At a sustained firing rate of 100 rounds per minute, shit gets pretty heavy.
"An out of context quote to support my world view." -Some Dead Guy
in many ways I like 04 better than 02
and watching this vid reminded me why,,,,
although my favorite game was beating tOSU
my daughter getting great seats on the Iowa 10 five rows up
that was troy smith’s coming out game
just like the orange bowl was the coming out game for the soon to be former bengal
theres something way better than my ex wife
seeing shcilihker the kicker take the field knowing the uprights would be split
something we coud use again
or the roth , how the passage of time makes him seems so much what a hawk should be
and ending with miracle of new years day
which is NOT a hit on tOSU tailgate arena
buckfucks just don’t like dolph i guess
i liked the year so much i bought the ticket strip
isnt that also the year of the kinnick t shirt with your name on the back
something about the construction crew?
thanks to Hawkeye Historian
you da man
Long Live the Pellican Whore - like FOREVER
Defense changed the tone of that game
Drew threw 2 early picks and the D stopped them.
I had great seats for that game. row 25 on the 45 yard line press box side.
And I won one of the gift bags that
had a Nile Kinnick framed photo in it.
So there. :P
by salparadise23 on May 10, 2011 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
This gave me goosebumps and you didn't even mention "the catch"
I was at that game too and it was such a memorable experience I think at one point I got a little teary-eyed. Just thinking back at all the bullshit this team went through to get where they did is remarkable. And Drew Tate. Drew fucking Tate!! He was unbelievable that year. The thing I like about him was that he wore his emotions on his sleeve. Definitely one of my favorite hawkeyes, at least for that season. Good write-up. Now I’m going to go watch the 2004 highlight dvd…
by bornofclay on May 10, 2011 7:29 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I nearly pissed my pants at that game
I’d been drinking all day but of course I couldn’t go while they were on that final drive, which seemed to take forever. As soon as he hit the endzone, I high-fived everybody and sprinted for the pisser.
Holy shit
That team was just dripping in SWAGGER. Something that seemed to be in short supply this year.
"I've abandoned free market principles to save the free market system." — Washington, D.C., Dec. 16, 2008
by BlackHeartOldPants on May 11, 2011 12:39 AM CDT reply actions
Never a "Forgotten Classic" in my mind,
this is still in my Top 5 games of all time as well. And it wasn’t just the game. It was everything leading up to it. My tailgating crew always tailgates in the “Triangle” (just west of what is now Stella), but for the last home game of the year we go to the parking lot. Our spot that year was right where people come up the stairs getting off the Hawkeye Express. Easily our biggest tailgate ever. We were handing beers out to people getting off the train. Having beer bong races with Wisky tailgaters ( I beat them every time!) Checking the surrounding TV’s for updates on “The Game.” As someone else mentioned, once the news spread that Michigan got beat, the partying amped up that much more.
And then the game. I DO remember it being cold as shit. Why, because my really warm coat was RED and I got hell from everyone around me for wearing it. Tate’s 2 early picks. The defense stopping everything Wisky tried to do….Truly a magical day for many, many reasons.
Thanks for bringing this one up, Ross. This game will always stay with me.
Babs > Roth by a long shot
Both were great players, but 2004 was the year of Babineaux. He was so destructive that season at DT both vs. the run and the pass in game after game.
He was selected as the MVP by coaches & players. He didn’t have the personality and flair of Roth, and I have always thought it was a shame that he never quite got the credit he deserved from Iowa fans.
Loved ’em both. Great dynamic duo.
My Drew Tate moment
I think it was the Michigan game we lost in 2004. Drew Tate gets grabbed in the facemask, defender actually spins his head around and tears the helmet clean off. Tate stays on his feet, scrambles right, looks downfield, and completes a pass.
The pass ended up not counting since the play should be dead if QB loses his helmet, and the facemask penalty moved us further than the pass would have anyway, but that play kind of summed up Tate for me.
Brunettes not fighter jets
The Purdue game from that year does it for me
Because he broke so many tackles in that game leading Dolph I believe to dub him Teflon Tate.
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
by Pain in the Sash on May 11, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Tate's greatest play, IMO, was in that Purdue game you mention
Did some crazy spinning/escaping from a sure sack and then lofted a beauty deep to Chandler down the sideline.
by H I McDonnough on May 11, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember that day very well.
I was at my friend’s house the last week he lived there helping him pack up and hanging out with him before he moved. I left after the 3rd quarter thinking, I bet we have to go to church tonight. After the game got over and after Kirk’s speech, I specifically remember my mother saying “Even God is a Hawkeye fan today”.
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
by Pain in the Sash on May 11, 2011 11:14 AM CDT reply actions
Is there any proof that Matt Roth is NOT the Ultimate Warrior's son?
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.



























