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by RossWB on Apr 27, 2011 8:00 AM CDT
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* Caring is creepy is the dog's bollocks. Just days after landing Anthony Hubbard, Fran added to the 2011 Iowa hoopyball recruiting class by snaring Gabe Olaseni, a 6'10" center from London by way of Sunrise Christian Academy in Kansas. Yes, that would be London as in England; bloody hell, we've got ourselves a limey. In addition to helping fulfill the cool accent quota on the team, Olaseni fills a significant need in Iowa's roster: size. With the graduation of Jarryd Cole, Iowa's big men contingent was down to Andrew Brommer and Devon Archie, which was a bit... concerning. Olaseni isn't exactly a plug-and-play big man (let's be honest: if he was, he probably would have been snapped up by someone else months ago) and in fact he might be a bit of a (whispers) project. Sayeth Fran:
"He is a talented athlete, who’s 6-foot-10 with a 7-foot-2 wing span. He has great length, is able to run the floor and can block shots. Gabe’s someone who will really impact our style of play. As good as he is, he has tremendous upside."
Even if he is a project offensively; he might be able to provide an immediate impact on the glass and on defense. Hell, if he can defend without getting a foul every 1.5 minutes, he'll already be a step up on Brommer. Either way, he's a solid prospect to have in the fold for Iowa and if he represents the end of Iowa's recruiting efforts this year (as Fran has intimated), then he's the final part of a pretty solid class, one that addresses many needs, like outside shooting (Oglesby), inside presence (Olaseni, maybe White), and wing play (Hubbard).
The lack of a back-up point guard is still a concern; Fran seems to think Marble and Hubbard (as well as Oglesby or Gatens) can spell Cartwright at point. He may be right that they can be adequate fill-ins for 4-8 minutes a game, but we're still going to want to pray that Cartwright avoids any serious injuries next year if Iowa's going to have any prayer of getting above .500 and contending for any sort of post-season trip.
* The story of A.C. No, not Slater. The other one. I linked to this in the Adrian Clayborn draft preview yesterday, but it's entirely possible that it would get ignored in the sheer volume of links in that post and that would be a shame, because it's a really fine story about the life of Adrian Clayborn, from a childhood dealing with Erb's Palsy and the violent death of his oldest brother to now, when he stands on the precipice of being a first-round NFL draft pick. If you've followed Iowa football for a while, chances are you've heard most of the details therein, but it's still a well-written summary -- and there will still probably be a few notes that surprise you.
For instance, did you know that he once played against former North Carolina star Tyler Hansbrough in the Missouri state hoops quarterfinals? (It didn't go well.) Or that he was friends with former Missouri standout (and current Philadelphia Eagles starter) Jeremy Maclin? And that their high schools played an annual rivalry game (The Turkey Bowl Game!) for a trophy (The Frisco Bell Trophy)? I bet not. So go on -- read up.
* Your regularly scheduled I-Club update. Seriously, Team Fran/Brands/Norm sounds like an absolute riot on the I-Club circuit:
Iowa wrestling coach Tom Brands, always fiery at this event, thought the crowd was "dead."
"McCaffery said he was going to do this, but I will," Brands said.
At that point, Brands ripped open his dress shirt, with buttons flying everywhere.
"It’s a big deal," Brands said after the crowd roared its approval. "This is my favorite shirt."
To the best of our knowledge, there were no photographers at the event; luckily, BHGP was able to obtain an artist's rendering of the event:
There were some other good quips from Brands, Fran, and Norm as well. Just make with the clicky, won't you?
* Grappling odds 'n' ends. There's also a handful of other Brands-related news bits from the past few days. One, the NCAA Wrestling Committee is "recommending a new rule that would allow the offensive wrestler to grant an escape to his opponent and choose to start in a neutral position." For years, we've seen Iowa guys basically do just this by briefly laying hands on guys and then letting them go -- or "cutting" them, as it's most commonly called -- so this wouldn't change much for Iowa guys -- except give them more time to secure additional takedowns.
Two, Brent Metcalf is back in action -- he and the rest of Team USA are taking on a crew of Russians in the 2011 Beat the Streets Gala in Times Square. Metcalf's opponent at 145.5 is Magomedmurad Gadzhiev; don't even think about asking us to try and pronounce that. Needless to say, we can't think of anyone better to take out those damn Cold War bastards. Metcalf is joined by a who's who of recent NCAA stars as well, including Jake Herbert (jNW), Jake Varner (Iowa State), and Jordan Burroughs (Nebraska). More info on the event available in the link.
Three, the Iowa wrestling team also added a pair of new recruits, Joey Trizzino (Bettendorf) and Jake Kadel (New London). Neither man won state titles during their prep careers, but both were multi-time medalists in the state tournament. Trizzino has family ties to the Iowa program -- his brother Nick walked on a few years ago and his father (Mark) and uncle (Scott) were part of the legendary teams coached by Dan Gable that won nine national titles in a row. Trizzino projects to be at 149/157, while Kadel projects at 133; both are walking on and while the competition for a starting spot will be fierce, Iowa can always use talented guys in the practice room.
BLOUSEZ
* Blog buddy Fight For Iowa speculates on the start times for next year's Iowa games and sees a lot of 11am kickoffs on BTN; frankly most of his picks seem dead-on, although I think the Iowa-Michigan State game could be an afternoon start. He doesn't see any night games at Kinnick this fall, which is probably true unless someone decides to put Iowa-jNW or Iowa-Indiana under the lights. The latter is Iowa's Homecoming game, which has been a primetime affair the last two years -- although the opponents were Michigan and Penn State then, too.
* DJK has been making the media rounds of late, appearing on radio and in print. I find the topic exhausted at this point, but I understand that might be a minority opinion, so: here you go.
* Hannah Draxten might be hanging up her jersey for good for the Iowa hoopsters, but PG Theairra Taylor is recovering from her third ACL surgery (!) in three years (!!) and could be back this fall; don't let AIWBBPKLHG know. Draxten's departure, while sad, does free up another scholarship for Bluder to use.
* Hawkeye Locator lists the top ten Iowa picks in the NFL Draft over the last 30 years; it's a pretty solid list, although (much as we love them) Kaeding and Dallas Clark might be a touch too high.
* And it's not every day that Reggie Roby is name-dropped in a rap song.
TFJ to readers GaryDolphinSafeTuna and pfac51 for pointing me to a few of these articles.
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Norm
“With that kind of speed we might blitz a couple of times… or we might not.”
Pure GOLD.
I love Norm.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Apr 27, 2011 8:14 AM CDT reply actions
I'd really like for someone to record one of those Fran/Brands/Norm I-Club dinners so we could experience it.
by The Mexican't on Apr 27, 2011 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions
LIVE FEEDS!
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Apr 27, 2011 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Holy awesome liveblog potential.
They should have sent a poet.
by Bucketochicken on Apr 27, 2011 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Those lazy beat writers need to step up their game.
Come on, Mas Casa! Stop vacationing and give us the I-Club liveblogs we crave!
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I thought that the Brands story
was a joke, but he actually tore his shirt off. That takes intensity to another level.
He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Apr 27, 2011 8:48 AM CDT reply actions
Didn't he demonstrate some insane wrestling move during last year's circuit?
I can’t remember what it was, but I think it involved a flip.
Yes.
Some kind of roll thing.
They should have sent a poet.
by Bucketochicken on Apr 27, 2011 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions
And thanks to Google, BoC and frightening memory,
I figured out it was the Granby Roll. More of a somersault, but still ridiculous to do in dress clothes.
Simply
Amazing
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Apr 28, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
That was terrific.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Apr 28, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Those were some sweet flows he had goin on.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Apr 27, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know why, but I've been totally fine with Brommer/Archie at C next year.
I know there isn’t too much evidence that would support this idea, but so it is. I was more worried about the depth the following year being as it was virtually non-existent. That said, IF they can get Woodbury, at this point, they have a solid core going forward with Meyer, Olaseni and then, hopefully, Woodbury.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
well I'm really worried
About having a wide body inside. Our current guys are too thin, Cole was the only one with some upperbody mass. We will have a great need, as mentioned, at defense and rebounding, I don’t care if they only average a few points a game.
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Apr 27, 2011 10:47 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Don't worry, he'll put on some pounds.
Then he’ll be our Banger.
"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."
by SomeJerkPoster on Apr 27, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
But who will be our Mash?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Who will be our spotted dick?
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Apr 27, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't mean to pick nits,
but Henry Cejudo never attended college and went straight to the Olympic Training Center out of high school. His gold medal at the Beijing Olympics probably justified his choice.
A 21-year-old gold medalist?
That’s incredible. Did he simply prefer freestyle to folkstyle?
by The Mexican't on Apr 27, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
He has a really tight relationship with the Brands
It seems that he just didn’t think he would fit into the college wrestling culture. It is unfortunate how different strategies in freestyle and folkstyle can be.
Der Hoelle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen
I think I remember hearing that when Terry signed on to coach with Tom
Cejuda might be coming with him. That would have been…awesome!
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
that kid went to my high school in Scottsdale, AZ
Coronado High, strong little guy
You'll figure out what to do, for god's sake your The Boat! - JD Scrubs
by smokinthereiff on Apr 27, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I was trying to find a late-day game later in theseason for rugby scheduling purposes...
…and the best I came up with was Michigan or Michigan St. Most pre-season polls have both in the Top 25 – w/ Sparty in theTop 12.If they live up to that ::snigger:: and Iowa plays a little above themselves, either is possible. I hope so.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I could see either (maybe both) games as 2:30 starts.
But probably nothing later than that, given the Big Ten’s aversion to night games in November.
The problem with Iowa-MSU being at 2:30 is that Nebraska-Penn State is that same week and that one’s guaranteed to get a prime timeslot, I suspect.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
how do the 11am kickoffs get affected by delany savings time
Didn’t he just say yesterday the conference would advocate moving all games back one hour?
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Apr 27, 2011 10:49 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That's what Delany WANTS, yeah, but...
1) I don’t know if he can get it in place for this coming season or not
2) What he wants and what ESPN/ABC want might not necessarily be the same thing and while Big Jim has a lot of power, we’ll see if he can bully ESPN/ABC on this point.
I wonder if we might see BTN games move to Delany Time and ABC/ESPN games at the normal times… if the contracts even make that possible.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
aahhhhh... damn me for being so self-centered
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Not sure I like that wrestling rule change.
If only because I enjoyed the humor value in watching Matt Mincey of Minnesota cut Taylor only to give up a low single TD in, like, three seconds.
"I am almost ashamed at my actions, but not really." - usn_kologi, 197 lbs
Oh, yeah, and I do love the Russian wrestlers.
The vast majority seem to be from Chechnya and the Caucasus and their Russian Muslim names are frequently ridiculous in spelling terms.
"I am almost ashamed at my actions, but not really." - usn_kologi, 197 lbs
by ReadingRambler on Apr 27, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Now there will be even more time for the Sainted Unicorn to work his magic!
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
That sure seemed like one of Taylor's best moves.
He knew exactly how much to turn and how much space to get before the ref would give him the escape.It often seemed like he was beginning to make his move for a TD as the ref was just raising his hand to award the escape.
Same as when he was on top, too. He just didn’t let guys walk away like most guys cutting someone would. He forced them to get the point so he could take them down again.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I agree with the no night games in Kinnick
I mean, maybe BTN forces us to play someone awful at night (Minnesota last year, and they have scheduled Indiana and Illinois v. FCS games at night in the past) but I think 11:00 will probably be it.
I was kinda hoping Pitt would get moved down since it looks interesting but Oklahoma at Florida State and Auburn at Clemson are both the same day. You could probably ink gameday into the former and, while I think the fighting Chiziks will fall back a ways this year, it would be hard to imagine them giving the defending national champs from the SEC a drop from prime time. I dunno, I just don’t a home night game happening.
http://victorypolka.blogspot.com/
A KCRG video and story on Gabe Olaseni
you even get to hear him speak here.
by Franimal House on Apr 27, 2011 10:13 AM CDT reply actions
His accent works perfectly with our newly recruited Tyrone.
“It’s a four ton truck, Tyrone. It’s not as if it’s a pack of fucking peanutes, is it?”
“It was a funny angle.”
“It’s behind you Tyrone. Whenever you reverse, things come from behind you.”
I can hear it already, and I’m excited.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Is that from Lock Stock?
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Apr 27, 2011 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Basically.
It’s from Snatch.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Yeah, same movie.
I did like Brad Pitt’s character, though
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Apr 27, 2011 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'm a big fan of interesting dialects.
Which is a big part of the reason why I love “Swamp People” on History.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Oh god that show is fantastic.
They should have sent a poet.
by Bucketochicken on Apr 27, 2011 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Just curious -
Are there any other major college football stadiums that don’t have permanent lights?
They should have sent a poet.
by Bucketochicken on Apr 27, 2011 10:23 AM CDT reply actions
I'd say Iowa State, but you asked for major college football stadiums.
by The Mexican't on Apr 27, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Considering how many night games they play, I'd hope ol' JP has used a little money to put up a few light bulbs around Jack Three Times.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Up until this year, Michigan was one.
I can’t think of others off the top of my head, but I think there are some.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I didn't think Notre Dame had permanent lights
but apparently NBC paid for them back in 1991 despite this fun tidbit
the university’s agreement with NBC stipulates that there be no home night games.
Just a lot of late fall, mid-afternoon games.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Apr 27, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
They must have gotten an exception to that rule.
There was a news blurb a few weeks that they’re hosting a night game against USC this fall.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yes they are
and there was much gnashing of teeth over it.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Apr 27, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
coule be other reasons for that
Lights are used for many games, regardless of the time, for camera lighting, overcast weather, etc.
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Apr 27, 2011 10:51 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Considering that, with all the commercials, an NBC Notre Dame game takes 5 hours,
lights are certainly needed.
Don Nordmann, we hardly knew ye
Other than Minny's dome, I haven't been to any B10 stadiums that have lights, I think
Minnesota (dome/lights)
Illinois
Michigan 5-6 years ago
Northwestern
Purdue
That may also be because Michigan is the only “major college” program in that list.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Apr 27, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Illinois definitely does.
Dunno about the others. But I’m pretty sure jNWU does…
They should have sent a poet.
by Bucketochicken on Apr 27, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Didn't they turn on the lights at the game last November?
Since the storm going on made it as dark as the middle of the night, even thought it was noon.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Which was a surprise to me.
I just assumed jNW owners would park their Ferraris in a ring around the field and turn on their headlights if a game needed a little extra lighting.
Although that would be pretty bad for the batteries.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Not a problem
you just have your driver start the car every 12 minutes, during a break in the action of course.
"Sometimes the truth gets in the way of a good story" - KF
by The Bacon Explosion on Apr 27, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
You bring your driver in the Bentley, your mechanic in the Ferrari
Only you are allowed to drive that one.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Apr 27, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I am unobservant then.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Apr 27, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
I really only notice because I'm down there fairly often.
They should have sent a poet.
by Bucketochicken on Apr 27, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Northwestern.
Oh, nevermind, I was thinking of indoor plumbing.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Apr 27, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I think AC might go a lot earlier than people have projected. Heard Parcells talk about
the value of good defensive linemen in the pros. Good ones are very hard to find and once proven are very expensive. Historically, they are good value in the draft no matter where they are taken. So, I expect that teams might be sitting on AC since they know he has been going up against solid O-linemen in practice for years. His 10-yard time was ridiculous at combine and he has never used much more than a bull rush in his career (Iowa, like most college D-line coaches don’t teach a ton of tricks, but instead focus on perfecting stunts and a couple moves). If he acquires some technique his speed is a difference maker. His upper body strength needs to improve A LOT, but teams can handle that in no time with good training.
As for the new center…he will be crucial right away. the big ten is way down next year. So Fan smells an opportunity to finish higher than he should in a normal year. It might not be enough to get in to the dance but it will show progress, build good will in the recruiting circles and keep momentum moving. I think we can survive without a back-up PG. I think his next three recruits are huge for him reaching his goals. I also think the Katenda (or whatever his name is) scholly offer was to get center all along. I don’t think Fran is at all disappointed he went to ND. I have read he is a very questionable talent.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I think we can live w/o a back-up PG if Cartwright stays healthy.
I guess Hubbard is a wildcard, but he seems like much more of an off-guard than a point guard so I’m not really sure how things would operate if he was running the show full-time. Nothing I’ve seen from Gatens, Marble, May, etc. makes me want to see them handling PG duties for more than a few minutes a game.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yea, could of used Washpun.. A LOT
If any of those guys had to take over full time, It would be disastrous, especially in an uptempo style. Who do you think would be most competent handling full time PG duties?
"And after it was all over, he took us in the house and served us pancakes... pancakes." - Charlie Murphy
by Podolak Pimpin' on Apr 27, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
word is
Fran has a blue chip high school PG lined up that he has sold on coming in to sole possession of PG slot when Cartwright gradumates
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
No one who we have seen thus far is even remotely capable of handling it full-time.
Hopefully Hubbard’s handle is good enough but I wouldn’t feel comfotable with a guy as inexperienced as he is taking over PG duties for the first time in a situation like he would be thrown in at Iowa.
I would contend that Fran’s failure to sign a 2nd PG is potentially a bigger risk than signing an ex-con. If Cartwright gets hurt (like our starting PG going into last year did) this team is seriously fucked, as in I’m not sure how we’ll win a single Big Ten game. That would be disastrous for Fran. Unless Hubbard commits another felony, and it would probably have to be a violent one, nothing he could do would compare with going 0-fer in the B1G and everything that would come along with it.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
"not sure how we’ll win a single Big Ten game"
Well we do still play Indiana.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Apr 28, 2011 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions
No two programs are primed for bigger jumps next year
than Iowa and IU. Neither is winning the league, but look for finishes from either one somewhere in the 4-7 range in the conference.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Apr 28, 2011 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Joey Trizzino
he was the kid who was having his ass handed to him by Justin Koethe of West High in the state tournament until Koethe set him down a little too rough and Trizzino took an injury win forcing Koethe to forfiet out of the championship bracket. Trizzino was fully recovered 5 seconds after the forfeit win was given to him.
From what I have seen of him, I can’t imagine that Trizzino will see the mat as a starter for Iowa. Also Koethe will be a Hawkeye after he graduates next year and will be looking to settle up with Mr Trizzino. Koethe is the epitome of a Brands style wrestler. Unfortunately he has forfeited twice in the state tournament because he is too rough on his opponents.
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
There are probably a lot of guys in the Iowa room that will never be starters.
If Brands thinks Trizzino can be a useful practice room training partner, hey, bring him in.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
You are right, of course.
My West High allegiances got the better of me.
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
Koethe does look like a good one, though.
This was a pretty quiet year, recruiting-wise, for Iowa, but I think next year will be another gangbusters year. There are some really good lower-weight guys who are very high on Iowa, plus guys like Koethe.
I do hope they can find a good 197er to take over after Byers, although 197ers feel like the great white whale of wrestling recruiting these days…
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Theory on your white whale note
Guys who can cut to 197 are generally a very fit walking-around weight of 220 or so. Most of those athletes would rather play a sport with more attention and chance for professional employment like football, hockey, basketball, etc.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Apr 27, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I think that's very true.
But, as Snr. Mexican’t notes, the growing prominence of MMA (and the way in which amateur wrestling works as a very effective feeder system for that sport) may help convince a few guys that wrestling is a viable option.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Hey, don't go trying to re-hash my arguments from months ago.
/ego fail’d
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Didn't realize I was. 'Great minds' and all that
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Apr 27, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
nah, not really.
I just mentioned that they should consider either a) adding a 235 or b)bumping all weights up a bit, with 197 getting up to 210 or 215.
I think there would be a lot different wrestling for the “upper weights” if you had guys like Tony Nelson cut weight and wrestle a “lighter style” than wrestle guys 30, 40 lbs heavier than him.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Keep an eye onthat kid from Skutt. he's a stud and exactly the type of wrestler (from the one match i've seen)
that iowa would want. He’s the McD replacement in my eyes.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Trizzino also took Mike Kelly to the wire to finish second
Kelly is talked about as a potential starter. Both Nick and Joey Trizzino have the ability to be starters at Iowa. Nick wrestled a 1 point wrestle off with Ramos this year.
I don’t feel bad for Koethe
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I wish Trizzino had wrestled more in open tournaments this year.
I wonder if we sometimes place too much stock in wrestle-off results. I sometimes think that the fact that guys see each other so much and get so familiar with one another that it’s easier to be competitive with a guy in the wrestle-off and that doesn’t necessarily mean that he’s better than him or that he would be better against other opponents.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
That is true. Just trying to counter this idea that these kids are just practice room fodder.
Both of the Trizzino kids can wrestle.
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First, in a tournament setting that would be undesirable as matches are always better
than forfeits.
Second, in a case where a wrestler is behind and slams the other wrestler, should the slammed wrestler be punished?
Lots and lots and lots of wrestlers make it through a season without ever getting called for an illegal slam. Koethe has done it twice at the state tournament in succeeding years.
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I don't see how anyone who knows wrestling doesn't recognize how that is a slam that's blatantly illegal.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Fair enough.
I just have a dirty taste in my mouth from the fatigue injury timeouts given to Iowa wrestling opponents.
My brother wrestled with both the Trizzinos
he was legitimately hurt by the slam
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After watching the slam a second time,
I understand the error of my ways. Hopefully he can channel his INTENSITY much better next year and when/if he goes to Iowa.
Koethe is a very good wrestler
just needs to be a little bit smarter about a few things
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I know a little about wrestling
and I question that call. Koethe lifted Trizzino but was on his knees when Trizzino was brought down. While the rules do not specifically note it, the common interpretation is that if the aggressor’s knees are on the mat before the other wrestler hits the mat then it is not a slam. Trizzino did a good job of making it look worse than it was and I don’t blame him or his coach for working it hard. That was his only realistic strategy for beating Koethe.
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
I can get behind you questioning whether it was a slam or not.
I have a problem with questioning whether Trizzino got hurt there. My brother, who is not a liar or prone to wild exaggeration, was there and spoke to Trizzino after the match. The kid was dazed. Why should Joey continue when the other guy is penalized for the slam and Trizzino himself was less than 100%?
Anyway, all this was to point out that Trizzino has ability and shouldn’t be dismissed just because of what some ICW kid did in a high school match.
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Also, the standard is "safe conduct"
I think the ref has discretion on what he thinks that is. Slamming a kid head first back onto the mat isn’t really safe conduct even if your knee hits about the same time that his head does.
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Wait, a West High wrestling fan
complaining about someone taking advantage of the rules?
Actually, I’m pretty impartial and would tend to side with the aggressor in most of these instances but I’m not very well-versed on the intricacies of wrestling rules. Just figured I’d flip you a little shit.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
I don't question that rule at all.
From what I know, the general rule is that you can’t take the guy off his supports and then put him to the mat in a unnecessary manner. And that’s basically what the rule says.
5.8.3 Slam. The term "slam" is interpreted as lifting and bringing an
opponent to the mat with unnecessary force. This infraction may be
committed by a contestant in either the top or bottom position on the mat
and during a takedown. When a contestant lifts the opponent off the mat
and brings that wrestler to the mat with excessive force, a slam shall be
called without hesitation after the situation occurs.
I honestly don’t know how any unbiased person couldn’t see that as a slam. I mean, if someone asked you what happened, you’d clearly say he slammed him to the mat. And questioning how hurt the guy was? It’s completely possible (and even likely) to get concussed and be able to get up after a few minutes. I guess I don’t know your comments well enough, but this all seems pretty ridiculous.
Was it the same guy he slammed when he got kicked out the other time?
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I will say that I think it's reasonable, in some instances, to question whether a guy was hurt or not.
Especially when he gained a significant advantage from the injury and recovered remarkably quickly after his injury was no longer needed. I don’t claim to know how the whole thing went down or what anyone’s actions were, I’m just saying that I think it’s reasonable for someone to question it.
As was mentioned earlier, Iowa wrestling fans are used to having to question injuries, especially when Brent Metcalf was on the mat. (Especially, especially when his opponent was Bubba Jenkins. Man, that guy was a pussy, I wonder what ever happened to him.)
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
Apropos of nothing
Someone felt so inspired by Tom Haverford’s (Community) awesome food slang (mentioned in yesterday’s INPLIYLI), that they created a website full of them. If you’re bored and need a quick chuckle, head on over to Tom Haverfoods
Chew chew trains (gum) and naked cupcakes (muffins) are my favorites so far.
My favorite is
Noodles are just: long-ass rice
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Pickles are Hulk Weiners
and Funyuns are Stank Rings are topping my list right now.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Apr 27, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Beers are Punky Brewsters
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Apr 27, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Mashed Potatoes are Stomach Spackle
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Apr 27, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Wife just pointed out that I'm an idiot.
Tom Haverford is a character on Parks & Rec not Community. DERP
by The Mexican't on Apr 27, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Must be the lack of sleep from La Nina Mexican't?
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Apr 27, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't have any idea.
Community used to be the only show I watched on Thursday, so I think it was just out of habit. The Quarter-Bean has been a pretty excellent sleeper. We’ve been pretty spoiled.
by The Mexican't on Apr 27, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Quarter-Bean?
That’s an unique name.
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Apr 27, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh jeez.
It makes so much sense though. Kudos.
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Apr 27, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Chili Dogs are cold puppies.
I was lost for a second. Once I finally got it I had a good laugh.
by The Mexican't on Apr 27, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Milk is cereal sauce
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Apr 27, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
this is true
He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Apr 27, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
by BentNotBroken on Apr 27, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
So this may be old news, but..
UNC/Sparty is playing basketball on a freakin’ battleship (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6426208). I mean, is that J Leman/Dick Stanzi level patriotism?
"And after it was all over, he took us in the house and served us pancakes... pancakes." - Charlie Murphy
by Podolak Pimpin' on Apr 27, 2011 12:14 PM CDT reply actions
It's pretty damn excellent, that's for sure.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Aircraft Carrier
not battleship.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
You are correct
Forgive my inability to comprehend the obvious difference /slowly puts on dunce hat & sits in corner
"And after it was all over, he took us in the house and served us pancakes... pancakes." - Charlie Murphy
by Podolak Pimpin' on Apr 27, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
We can only hope they ALL chase the ball off the starboard bow.
Of course The Izzoo would just float there with his giant cranium and call everyone else names.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Apr 27, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The only negative..
Is having to read the headline “UNC sinks/torpedoes the Spartans” /cringes
"And after it was all over, he took us in the house and served us pancakes... pancakes." - Charlie Murphy
by Podolak Pimpin' on Apr 27, 2011 12:38 PM CDT reply actions
Hope it is on the Vinson.
(My first ship.)
.....OK, maybe I didn't think the short version of this name through....
by TheStupidShallBePunished on Apr 27, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
My son was 9 pounds, 7 ounces
And I thought my wife was tired.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Apr 27, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
TE coach Eric Johnson made a stop in STL last night
as he always does this time of year. Among his highlights was some discussion of how the team is looking coming out of spring ball. I know this is probably old news for most of you, but he told a story about how he was having difficulty getting CJ Fiedorowicz motivated, that the Polish Hat seemingly was coasting on his physical abilities and expected to just be as dominant against college competition as he was against the schlubs he played in high school. Coach then said he actually had CJF over to his house to have a sit-down with him and try to understand why he wasn’t giving 100% in each practice. Apparently CJF then said something like, “If you could just give me ONE compliment, show me just a little love, instead of constantly tearing me down”. Kind of explains why he didn’t see a ton of action last year, along with not knowing the blocking schemes very well. At any rate, he made a point of saying that he was blown away with the improvements CJF has made over the winter and in spring ball, and we should look for him to be a HUGE asset in the passing game this season!
Also Coach confirmed the rumors of other teams “Dirty Recruiting” to try and land Darian Cooper, without naming names cough Sparty cough
He also made a point to say that this is probably the fastest group of LB he’s ever seen during spring practice, to concur with what Eyeheartfreedumb said above.
Ok, but on the way we've gotta stop by a toy store and at least get him a stuffed animal, something. It's like...meowschwitz in there. -Sterling Archer
Not every player is motivated the same way
seems like good coaches know that
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I'm glad they bro'd down and figured it out.
"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."
by SomeJerkPoster on Apr 27, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Not a bad top ten list
But i get the feeling Sanders is too high. I also think that 10 years from now five of those names will be replaced with Greenway, Greene, Bulaga, Angerer, and/or a few of the guys coming in this next draft whether it be Clayborn, Sash, Ballard, Stanzi, DJK etc etc.
by justsomehawkeyefan on Apr 27, 2011 1:25 PM CDT reply actions
Thomas Gilman of Skutt is the next stud* I want to see commit to Iowa.
http://www.themat.com/section.php?section_id=3&page=showarticle&ArticleID=23167
"I just love Thomas Gilman," Hildebrandt said. "I just love the way he wrestles. He came out and took control of the match right away. He’s done that all year."
Gilman’s in-your-face, attacking style led to six takedowns as he won the battle of two-time state champions. Bolling lost for the first time in 116 high school matches.
"He was backing up a lot and didn’t seem like he wanted to wrestle me," Gilman said. "My game plan was the same as it is for every match. I just went out there and tried to dominate. I was in control the whole time. I could feel him starting to break after a while."
Sound Hawkeyean?
*Yes, I feel weird calling a teenager a stud, but I know what I mean, and it’s not bad so ttthpppp…
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
7'2 Wingspan, woah.
Oh.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
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