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Iowa 0, Hawks 0: What We Learned From The Iowa Football Spring Game-Type Substance

So what did we learn from Iowa's sparsely attended "spring game" on a cold, windy, and dreary April day?  Not much, but frankly that's nothing much new -- we never learn much from these matters.  They are, after all, nothing more than one practice out of fifteen, with the bulk of the time spent up with a variety of drills and situational practices.  Saturday they spent only fifteen minutes on "live" scrimmage action, and even that doesn't tell us much when (a) the defense is hamstrung and (b) you tend to get the 1s vs. the 2s (and vice versa, or some combination thereof).  It's not exactly like against like competition out there.  Really, the practice action we saw on Saturday didn't look terribly different than what we've seen over the past 4-5 years -- some good plays, some bad plays, a lot of totally unremarkable plays -- and we've seen a wide gamut of results for Iowa in those years when fall (and meaningful action) came around. 

So, no, Iowa didn't look great on Saturday -- but they hardly ever do in April.  Last year's team (deservedly) entered the season with sky-high expectations, but they didn't look appreciably better than this year's squad in April.  I would advise you not to make any bowl plans of any sort based on Saturday's glimpse of the team -- there's still a long, long way to go.  That said, it's no fun if we don't make a few wildly speculative assumptions based on our small gimpse into the team's inner workings.

* Keenan Davis might be ready for his close-up.  In a day with few standout plays, Keenan Davis was usually the man at the source of most of them.  He made a total of five catches for roughly 100 yards between the 7-on-7 scrimmaging and the full-team scrimmaging and most of those catches were of the highlight variety (you can see a few in the highlight clip up above).  Davis was far and away the star of the show on Saturday and gave every indication that he's finally ready to live up to his prodigious recruiting hype and become the reliable option Iowa needs to have opposite McNutt.

Star-divide

* Don't give up on DERBY4QB just yet.  Much more on this tomorrow, but aside from Keenan's coming out party, the other development of note from Saturday's open practice was the revelation that A.J. Derby is far from ready to give up on his QB dreams -- and for good reason, because he looks genuinely promising as a QB.  In fact, statistically speaking, he was arguably the best of the Iowa QBs in the scrimmage portion of practice:

Passing:

  • Vandenberg - 6/18 for 74 yards, 0 TD and 1 INT (there were 3 or so drops and Binns broke up 2 passes)
  • Wienke - 5/12 for 54 yards, 0 TD and 1 INT (had a couple of nice throws towards the end of the session)
  • Derby - 5/7 for 73, 0 TD and 0 INT (had 1 throw away and another caught out of bounds)

 

(TFJ to blog-buddy FightForIowa)

Again, those aren't like-for-like comparisons so I'm not trying to say that based on those numbers Derby should start over Vandenberg -- Vandy has a body of work based on his (admittedly somewhat limited) in-game action, as well as 3+ years of practice at this point, so I have no reason to doubt that he's the most-ready for the job as of right now.  But those numbers do suggest that QB isn't a lost cause for Derby.  He's already, per Ferentz, neck-and-neck with Wienke for the QB2 spot -- which means he might be just a WOOTENOCALYPSE away from seeing the field next year (knock on entire forest).  Again, we'll have much more on Derby tomorrow, but he was the other standout story from the practice, so I didn't want to ignore him.

* We know the starters... for the most part.  But beyond that?  Chaos.  Vandy will start at QB, Coker will start at RB, and McNutt and Davis are the clear 1-2 punch at WR.  Herman appears to be a solid favorite to start at TE.  Four of the five offensive line spots look pretty bolted down: Rieff and Zusevics at tackle, Ferentz at center, and Gettis at one of the guard spots.  Brandon Scherff looks like a slight favorite at the other guard spot, though if Nolan MacMillan can ever get healthy he could regain his spot there, too.

Even the defense looks pretty well sorted from a starter standpoint (with a few notable exceptions).  Three of the four defensive line spots look obvious: Binns and Lebron Daniel will likely start at DE and Mike Daniels will hold down one of the defensive tackle spots, though it's anyone's guess who will start beside him.  James Morris and Tyler Nielsen will occupy two of the starting linebacker spots and the other one looks like it will come down to either Anthony Hitchens or Christian Kirksey -- though Shane DiBona or Dakota Getz might also be in play there.  The secondary is the one area where things are pretty murky.  Prater will start at cornerback and Hyde will start somewhere, though it's still unclear whether that will be at the other cornerback spot or at free safety.  If he sticks at free safety, either Greg Castillo (who looks much improved -- honestly) or B.J. Lowery will probably start at the other cornerback spot.  If he moves back to cornerback... who knows.  Collin Sleeper and Jordan Bernstine could be in the mix at safety and Tanner Miller will have a good shot at starting when he heals up.  Either way, safety is the great unknown for the Iowa defense right now.

Special teams are also a little mysterious.  Eric Guthrie looks like the clear favorite at punter -- he was the most reliable option on Saturday; Mullings was inconsistent and still appears to take too long to get punts off.  Meyer and Mossbrucker were pretty even on Saturday (Mossbrucker made 5/6, Meyer made 4/7; both guys had some kicks that looked good and some kicks that looked bad); I think Ferentz sticks with Meyer unless Mossbrucker proves to be a definitively better option.  They didn't do much with the return game, although Bernstine, Hyde, and Davis were all back returning punts.  Hyde looks like the most intriguing option there, if only because of his excellent returns on interceptions last year.

But after you get past the first line on the depth chart, things appear wide open at most spots.  In a few cases (QB, TE) you have a pair of guys battling for the main back-up slot (Wienke and A.J. Derby at QB, Fiedorowicz and Zack Derby at TE).  Technically speaking, that could also describe the RB2 situation, but while both Jason White and De'Andre Johnson looked fine on Saturday, there was nothing in their play that made you think that the incoming freshmen (particularly Coe and McCall) won't have an excellent shot to see the field.  WR looked like an absolute mess after Davis on Saturday (McNutt didn't practice, but we already know he's the top option).  Despite the hype, Kevante Martin-Manley didn't do much on Saturday.  Nor did Don Shumpert.  I'm not sure if Jordan Cotton even played.  Steven Staggs probably had the second-best showing after Davis (he had 4 catches for 53 yards), but before we get too excited about him, let's remember that Don Nordmann blew up at a few past Spring Games -- and then was a non-factor during the fall.

While most of the starting jobs are set along the offensive line, there also appears to be a pretty solid set of back-ups along the offensive line: Tobin and Van Sloten at tackle, Orne and MacMillan at guard, and Boffeli at center.  The overall depth along the offensive line looks pretty good.  On the other hand, the depth along the defensive line looks far more questionable.  Ferentz has gone on record as saying he wants to do more defensive line rotation this year and play 6-8 guys, but after the top three (Binns, Daniels, Daniel), it's hard to know who those next 3-5 guys are.  Bigach?  Nardo?  Forgy?  Gaglione?  Mike Hardy made a few nice plays (including an interception on Wienke).  Dominic Alvis and Carl Davis are two intriguing options, too; Davis has uncommon size for a young Iowa defensive tackle (he's already 6'5", 310 lbs) while Alvis was one of the most active and disruptive players among the DL guys.  He's a little small (6'4", 250 lbs), but he could be the next Mitch King or Karl Klug-type.

Linebacker is also a position with uncertain depth.  After James Morris and Tyler Nielsen, it's the great unknown.  Kirksey or Hitchens are the presumptive favorites to start at the other linebacker spot right now but neither guy has actually, you know, played much thus far.  Bruce Davis has been a reliable special teamer and back-up for a few years, so he provides at least a little experienced depth.  After him?  Shane DiBona, Dakota Getz, and a host of freshmen.  The secondary seems like a matter of sorting out who the most talented guys are and finding a way to get them on the field.  Two of those guys are Prater and Hyde.  The other two might be Bernstine and Lowery.  Or Miller and Sleeper.  Or maybe one of the incoming freshmen (say "hi," Nico Law).  Or perhaps even the somewhat unfairly dismissed Greg Castillo.  The depth here might actually be more encouraging than along the defensive line or at linebacker -- even if, for instance, Bernstine or Lowery don't make it as starters, they could still be valuable in nickel situations or as replacements if someone gets hurt.

So, really, we know very little.  But we know slightly more than we did before, so -- progress?  For now, it'll have to do.

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As a vocal opponent of the "SWAGGER!" mentality:

even I think that 0-12 is low-balling the Hawks.

/I know you were sarcastic.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Apr 19, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sarcastic?

Snacks hangs out with DRUGS to get sober.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Apr 19, 2011 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

we are so fucked

Oh, *fuck you*! I'm not the rope-totin' Charlie Bronson wannabe that's getting us fucking lost!

by Scrotie McBoogerballs on Apr 20, 2011 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is it just me, or does the rest of the D-line after Binns and the Daniel(s)es

sound like a list of defendants in an upcoming RICO trial?

I am drunk.., or I wouldn't be talking to you.

by codenameduchess on Apr 19, 2011 4:45 PM CDT reply actions  

You mess wit' Joe Gaglione, you sleep wit' da fishes.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Apr 19, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

The best Dago law firm I've ever heard of:

Bigach, Nardo, Forgy, & Gaglione.

They’re very slick and organized (like crime).

/I have no hatred toward any Guineas reading this.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Apr 19, 2011 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

@ TFG: I apologize.

@Eyeheart: I don’t know the exact number, but it is more than the number of dollars US government owes China.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Apr 19, 2011 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I said trillions,

not sex-tillions.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Apr 19, 2011 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chazz,

You don’t have to apologize to me on this. I’m not offended.

My ancestors benefited from the unjust ways in which Italian immigrants were treated in this country. WithOut Papers, you know? This isn’t a political thing, by the way. It’s a human thing.

Anyway, I think you’re funny most of the time. But — seriously — ethnic-based humor?

by The Final Gun on Apr 23, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes but 0-12....

with our strength of schedule should get us a CBI or College Insider tourney invite.

by djwoody on Apr 19, 2011 4:54 PM CDT reply actions  

There is so much truthiness within that statement..

"And after it was all over, he took us in the house and served us pancakes... pancakes." - Charlie Murphy

by Podolak Pimpin' on Apr 19, 2011 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Donnal..

1. Any word on if they will utilize Donnal in the Guard spot? Remember Vandervelde talked him up some.

2. Also, gotta think Cooper gets some action on the DT spot?

3.And while I’m asking questions, Don Nordmann is still my favorite walk on ever, played against him once in high school and also intramural bball (he played on Moeaki’s team) and was like what 6’ 4/5" and a stud athlete. Wonder why he didn’t a little more in his career?

4. I can’t believe Castillo could have possibly improved past his Adam Shada 2.0 moniker

"And after it was all over, he took us in the house and served us pancakes... pancakes." - Charlie Murphy

by Podolak Pimpin' on Apr 19, 2011 5:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Not much talk about Donnal this spring.

It’s rare to see true freshmen step in at DT, but Cooper will have a better shot than most.

Nordmann had the misfortune of playing at Iowa the same time as DJK, McNutt, Moeaki, Reisner, and Sandeman. Considering we rarely play more than 2-3 WRs at once, there just weren’t many opportunities for him.

I’m not sure why people find it so hard to believe Castillo could be solid now. I never thought he was that pants-shittingly bad to begin with (I always thought Lowe was much worse, really) and guys certainly can get better over time. I don’t think Castillo will be all-Big Ten, but I don’t think he’ll be a dumpster fire out there, either.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Apr 20, 2011 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agree re: Castillo

He’s always been solid, at the very least. And yeah, better than Lowe for sure. I don’t know why he gets a bad rap here.


They should have sent a poet.

by Bucketochicken on Apr 20, 2011 7:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it all started out of fear.

He was bad early, but, as you’ve both stated, never seemed as bad as Lowe. Hearing that Lowery has already jumped Castillo on the depth chart probably adds to the poor reputation, as well.

by The Mexican't on Apr 20, 2011 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Castillo..

I’ll agree that he won’t be an extreme liability in the secondary, but I’m just not sold on how this guy could possibly/maybe a starting corner for a solid Big Ten team. I guess I’ve just been spoiled watching Amari & Prater. I’m still thinking however Cooper gets some looks, he will obviously be lacking in technique, but the kid has size and went against Cyrus everyday in practice, that has to count for something.

"And after it was all over, he took us in the house and served us pancakes... pancakes." - Charlie Murphy

by Podolak Pimpin' on Apr 20, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Amari and Prater will both be drafted quite early.

You are indeed spoiled if that is the standard.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Apr 20, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Amari was top of the third round, I think.

Prater will probably go 3rd or 4th. I think his size might hurt him.

Either way, they are/were very good and we’ve been very spoiled by cornerbacks over the last few years.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Apr 20, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Either way, they are/were very good and we’ve been very spoiled by cornerbacks over the last few years.

Prater, Spievey, Fletcher, Shada (at times), Antwan Allen, Jovon Johnson, Walner Belleus (for like half a season), Benny Sapp, (Charles Godfrey played more at safety for us, right?), and more guys who never really got off the bench.

If you remember the Slattery/Dodge CB duo, it is difficult to not appreciate what the list above has given us.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Apr 20, 2011 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

This just in

James Hardy just torched Shada for another TD

by GaryDolphinSafeTuna on Apr 20, 2011 10:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

In fairness,

James Hardy was pretty talented.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Apr 20, 2011 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely true.

I saw an article with Hardy’s pro stats the other day, could not believe how little he has done. Par for the course in Titonka though.

by GaryDolphinSafeTuna on Apr 21, 2011 8:30 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Which, let's be honest, we were long overdue for

given the constant horrorshow of corners Ferentz had been trotting out for the first half of his coaching career. I’m not just talking about Shada (we’ve thrown enough dirt on that grave), but also the early years tendency to have woefully undersized CBs like Jovon Johnson and Antwan Allan (neither of whom cracked 5’10") covering receivers that were 5-6 inches taller. One area that the coaching staff deserves a lot of credit for the past few years is finding and developing much better talent at the CB position.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Apr 20, 2011 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jovon and Antwan were short,

but played pretty well.

At Iowa, undersized corners have certainly been the rule.

But the other guys haven’t been giants, either. Spievey is 5-11, Fletcher is 6-0, Prater is 5-11. They are adequate, but it is difficult to find a bunch of fast, 6-3 guys to go up against the WRs from OSU and what we once called Michigan. (Hell, even Indiana seems to have a good tall WR every other year).

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Apr 20, 2011 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's closer to the norm as far as corner height goes

5-7 and 5-8, however, are SHORT for corners. Allen and Johnson were fast and pretty good tacklers. But they were just too small to be effective as D-1 corners. I remember a game vs Michigan one year where Allen (I think) was in perfect position on an underthrown pass and picked it off, only to have Braylon Edwards literally rip the ball out his hands for and go for a TD

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Apr 20, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, I recall that Michigan catch.

For some reason, I subscribed to ESPN The Mag at that time, and they put a full-page photo of that within the first 10 or so pages.

I still feel Allen and Johnson were OK, though. Again, they were each about 300% as good as Tim Dodge.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Apr 20, 2011 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

300% of zero, is still zero

but yes, they were much, much better than Dodge.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Apr 21, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Any of us suiting up would be zero

Dodge was maybe only a 2 out of 10 as far as B10 DBs go, but it’s kind of mean to stomp on his contributions so heavily.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Apr 21, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Johnson was awesome.

And was, what, 2 INTs from setting the all-time career record?

He also owns one of my favorite punt return TDs in Iowa history.

by The Mexican't on Apr 21, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed. I had much love for Jovon.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Apr 21, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was also on the EBT program, despite being a scholarship athlete at UI.

I’d just laugh at the guy every time he checked out at HyVee with his EBT card.

by The Mexican't on Apr 21, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Castillo was still ahead of Lowery as of the last depth chart.

I think Lowery is the CB of the future, but I’m not really that concerned about Castillo. I’m much more concerned about the safety situation (not to mention the third LB and the non-Mike Daniels defensive tackle).

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Apr 20, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

But.. but..

We have the Nard-Dog! I mean, no worries right? I am happy to see getting some hybrid LB’s in the mix (i.e, Kirksey, Hitchens). Do you think Alston/Spears see anytime @ LB or is their probability of redshirting quite high?

"And after it was all over, he took us in the house and served us pancakes... pancakes." - Charlie Murphy

by Podolak Pimpin' on Apr 20, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno.

Depends if they can play that 3rd LB spot or not, the one that Hunter played the last few years. Nielsen’s not getting displaced from his spot and they’d have to be pretty damn good to beat out Morris and Davis at MLB. My recollection was that Spears is more of a classic MLB-type.

I like the hybrid LB idea in principle; I’m just curious to see what they look like in games. On Saturday, I had to do a double-take because it looked like we had safeties lining up right next to linebackers on defense.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Apr 20, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

LB is probably the defensive position (and maybe overall position) that still concerns me the most.

We still need Morris to keep improving, we probably need Nielsen healthy for a full year, and we need others to step up.

On a not-so-related question, has anyone heard what ever happened to Prater’s brother (Shane?)

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Apr 20, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

He left because of grades right?

probably went down the same path as Shonn Greene. Well, minus the whole coming back to Iowa and the NFL thing. I just wonder what furniture store he’s at..

"And after it was all over, he took us in the house and served us pancakes... pancakes." - Charlie Murphy

by Podolak Pimpin' on Apr 20, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he went to Iowa Western CC,

and never came back.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Apr 20, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think we may see more 3-4 than expected this year.

I just feel that Norm will want to get both Bruce Davis and James Morris on the field with Nielsen and Hitchens / Kirksey on the outside. If Carl Davis can fill a few gaps with his 300 lb frame, the LBs may be able to attack some QBs.

Plus, as has already been pointed out a few times, Iowa will face less “slam ball” offenses than spread teams, so 3-4 may be preferred on most weekends.

by The Mexican't on Apr 20, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I could see more 3-4 or nickel being played.

Especially since the latter would enable Bernstine to get on the field even if he can’t quite win a job outright elsewhere. (I kinda don’t think he can unless he can take hold of the SS spot.)

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Apr 20, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think I favor the nickel.

It seems like our DBs did pretty good at the Insight Bowl considering the amount of talented Mizzou WRs they had to contain.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Apr 20, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I only have one prediction and it is in regards to the kicking spot:

He goes with Meyer for the first 7 or 8 games of the season, then facing a slightly above average degree of difficulty kick to win a game against a highly ranked opponent, Ferentz favors Mossbrucker to take (and make) the kick. In the process, he completely ruins Meyer’s career.

by BoilerHawk on Apr 19, 2011 6:33 PM CDT reply actions  

i see what you're doing there

I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.

by sailorjerry on Apr 19, 2011 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

The first part of his handle is BOILER!! Everything he writes is suspect. Trying to lull us into false security.

by txhawkeye on Apr 20, 2011 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

The fact that he lists B****r first tells us where his true allegiance lies.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Apr 20, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think any of us really wants him to call himself HawkBoiler, tho do we?

Hawk Boiling is against the law on the Hawkeye State.

The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.

by HawkeyeGirleye on Apr 20, 2011 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

You'd obviously grill it.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Apr 21, 2011 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Being the daughter of an avid hunter, I have tried many things

But I draw the line at hawk prepared in any fashion.

The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.

by HawkeyeGirleye on Apr 21, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did he really cook a hawk? Or was that a speculative "no way"?

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by therealCatnuts on Apr 21, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speculative 'no way'

Tho based on the number of times the man has gone hunting I couldn’t swear that it’s never happened.

The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.

by HawkeyeGirleye on Apr 21, 2011 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

So you're saying you wouldn't eat a bear?

I’d eat a bear.

Probably.

Maybe.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Apr 22, 2011 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think Daddy's ever gone bear huntin'

But if he brought one home I might try it. I’d rather he stick to quail, ducks, pheasants & rabbits, tho.

The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.

by HawkeyeGirleye on Apr 22, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Goddamn do I love me some rabbit.

I’m no longer allowed to eat ducks though, they’re my wife’s favorite wild animal. Not even l’orange.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Apr 23, 2011 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haven't had any of his game in years

But I was a big fan of rabbit as a 4 y/o. I have no idea whether or not I knew what I was eating at the time. Since his retirement he’s done mostly pheasant & duck hunting- my mom even admits to liking some of his duck ‘creations’. Very sweet of you to lay off duck for your wife!

The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.

by HawkeyeGirleye on Apr 23, 2011 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had bear sausage a couple of weeks ago

It was good. A little gamey, but that’s to be expected.

It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?

by chitownhawkeye on Apr 23, 2011 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

There's a few jokes here that I'm not gonna touch.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Apr 25, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Three thoughts:

1) Hawks aren’t mammalian
2) Alligators, bears, and lions are eaten, in descending order of popularity. There’s probably others (including dogs for those with no soul)
3) Iowa’s favorite meat animal, the pig, is an omnivore, eating any meat you throw its way

Quibbling aside, your point remains valid. It’s why I was interested to see if her father had actually done so.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Apr 22, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Alligators are also not mammals. D'oh!

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Apr 22, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I once ate Alligator.

I vomited later that night.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Apr 22, 2011 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have had all sorts of interesting meats.

I’ll try them whenever offered (I like to travel). Gator, bear, kangaroo, emu, beaver, buffalo, frog, rabbit, rattlesnake, turtle, squirrel, wild deer, wild boar, pretty much every bird you can imagine. Damn, I guess I’ve had quite a few of them. And quite often on the fifth one. My personal favorites? Emu is amazing (anybody who likes red meat needs to try an emu steak), deer is very good, alligator is awesome deep fried.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Apr 23, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, I had my alligator fried in small, nugget-sized pieces.

And, like I said, it didn’t end well (although, I was in Louisiana, so maybe there was a difference in the drinking water that upset my stomach?)

By the way Catnuts, I think all the species of the earth are very thankful that you weren’t on Noah’s Ark with a grill.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Apr 23, 2011 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Loving that last line

The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.

by HawkeyeGirleye on Apr 23, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's funny is that I'm primarily vegetarian

We eat meat about 3-4 times/week total. But I’m very much a curious eater. If somebody has something I’ve never tried, I’m ordering it.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Apr 24, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

You've got me beat by a mile!

We eat a lot of buffalo, especially ground- we use it in place of ground beef in all our recipes. Not a big fan of ostrich- too dry the times I’ve tried it. Will be on the lookout for emu, on your advice!

The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.

by HawkeyeGirleye on Apr 23, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like that they moved Hyde to safety

and I would like to see Bernstine back there with him. But with Tanner Miller getting a decent amount of time last year, I get the feeling Bernstine will be seeing backup time again. I feel like we should use more nickel and get him out there, as Cover-2 last year really got on my nerves, but I guess we’ll see in the fall.

Also like having Hyde returning punts after seeing his interception returns last year, but there’s definitely an injury risk that I hope doesn’t make an appearance.

by Hank Thrasher on Apr 19, 2011 10:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't be surprised if Tom Donatell is in the mix at safety.

I think he got a lot of reps last year when we had a ton of DBs on the field, or when Greenwood or Sash were out (not that that happened very often).

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Apr 19, 2011 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's doing fine.

He looked good out there and made a few catches; the problem is that there’s good competition at TE. Herman looks like the clear guy at TE1 — he made some nice catches and is the best blocker of the bunch. Derby also seemed vastly improved. The coaches like CJ and were doing different things to take advantage of his skills (like moving him into the slot a few times), so I think he’ll still see a fair amount of playing time.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Apr 20, 2011 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Besides, it's not like 2TE sets are rarely seen in these parts.

TE2 could definitely be a productive position for either Hat (Derby or Fedora-witz)

by PackerHawk on Apr 20, 2011 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Also true.

We do like the 2TE sets.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Apr 20, 2011 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

And now I really want this to happen.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Apr 20, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Both Derbys and CJ.

The 2TE set will become The Hat Formation. At the goal line it could be called The Lid.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Apr 20, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

And a TD scored by either one should be known as:

Hat’s Incredible!

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Apr 20, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

My take on QB2

I was at the spring thing, and as everyone knows or has heard, it was cold and windy. At times, both opposing field goal nets were simultaneously blowing in opposite directions, so things were definitely not optimal for getting a good read on Wienke and Derby. With that in mind I was interested in seeing how QB’s were handling the wind, and what kind of arm strength they were showing, touch passes, etc. (FYI, in the BTN video they call QB14 AJ Derby, which is incorrect. QB14 is Wienke, the lefty. Derby is QB17) Now, I’ll admit I didn’t stay for the whole scrimage portion, but from watching the drills, I felt like Wienke had the stronger arm. He seemed to put a tighter spiral on the ball as well, which added up to looking like a better throw in the wind. Some of Derby’s passes were pretty wobbly.

Obviously there is a lot more to being a solid QB than throwing a laser with a perfect spiral. And JC6 isn’t so far removed that a new lefty throwing darts doesn’t get the blood boiling, but there weren’t any ankle balls being thrown from what I remember. Actually, one pass he threw on maybe a 20 yard route sailed about 15 yards over the receiver, which really just looked hilarious. I’m not sure if the wind died down on that play or the route was short, but at least he can put some air on the ball with some velocity. That being said, I’ll be interested to see the mobility of both those guys, hopefully in mop up duty during OOC games.

Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.

by Give Eddie a Beer on Apr 20, 2011 10:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Wienke did throw some nice balls, but he also made some really awful decisions.

That INT by Hardy was jaw-droppingly bad.

Derby struggled a little with the wind (there was definitely some wobble in his passes), but he generally looked pretty good. I can see why they’re pretty even right now, which is good for Derby (entering his second year on campus) and not so good for Wienke (entering his fourth year on campus).

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Apr 20, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think I was there for the Wienke pick, but for what it's worth, Vandy's pick in the video is pretty bad too

That’s a good point about where Wienke and Derby are with respect to their time in the program. The question is, whose shoulders would you potentially put the offense on if it came down to it? It’s still early, but all 3 of these QBs seem so different to me. You have Vandy, who would look a lot like Stanzi if he wore #12, then you have a lefty in Wienke, who is listed at 6’5’’ (didn’t realize that before) and throws a pretty hard ball, and then there is Derby with all his mobility potential. Maybe I’m thinking about it too much and any of those 3 could just be plugged in and make the offense go, but more likely there would be some sputters like with any QB change.

Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.

by Give Eddie a Beer on Apr 20, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think there would be an adjustment for any of them because they do bring different things to the table.

I do wonder how much they’d pare down the playbook for Derby; it’s hard to believe he’d have the same grasp on it that the other two should, given that they’ve been here so much longer.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Apr 20, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

KOK should use the...

Banks/McCann mixture (and maybe a little Tate escapism) for Derby, the N Chandler playbook for Wienke, and I guess stick with Stanzi-era for Vandy (as he looked decent in the Shoe with it).

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Apr 20, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, most of the playbook (it ain't longer than 4 pages, right?)

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Apr 20, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

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