Hawkeye Highlight Reels: Nick Bell
by Adam Jacobi on Apr 11, 2011 3:40 PM CDT
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PrintNestled snugly in the comment section of Patrick's post today was a mention of former Iowa tailback Nick Bell, who terrorized opposing defenses in the early '90s before injuries cut short a promising NFL career. But mere words don't really do a player like Bell justice, and fortunately, there's a nine-minute highlight video of his on YouTube. It's not edited particularly well or anything, but it doesn't really need to be. Watch, and then a few observations afterward.
Yes, the Northwestern touchdown is in there twice. We mention that now because if we didn't, there would be at least three mentions of it in the comments from people who completely missed the point of this video.
One of the things it's important to remember about college football between 20 years ago and today is how far the bottom half has come to meet the top half. There isn't total parity and probably never will be, but the Big Ten used to be at least half pushovers, to say nothing of the sad sacks that populated I-AA and low-level I-A programs. So let's keep in mind the level of competition Bell's facing in most of these highlights.
That said, some of Bell's best highlights come against the best competition. Iowa made a game out of the Rose Bowl when Bell started to get moving in the second half, his demolition of the fifth-ranked Illini defense is forever a part of Hawkeye lore, and that screen pass against Miami was a thing of beauty. Watch the replay closely--before Bell breaks into receiving position, he absolutely levels a blitzing linebacker, which gives Rodgers just that little bit less pressure before getting the pass away. Then, of course, shredding the defense. So it's not as if this is all just one giant mismatch that Bell takes advantage of--far from it.
The immediate reaction an Iowa fan would have to watching Bell run through tacklers would be to call Bell the precursor to Shonn Greene, but in actuality they're very different running backs. Bell was a gifted receiver as well as blocker, and he frequently lined up as a fullback in order to get Mike Saunders (a more "traditional" tailback) on the field at the same time. Moreover, Bell played about 25 pounds heavier than Greene ever did, and didn't run with the same patience and vision that we've seen from Greene.
If anything, Bell was the precursor to Wisconsin's big backs: Ron Dayne, P.J. Hill, and John Clay all saw/see heavy workloads as heavy halfbacks for the Badgers, and it's probably no accident that Barry Alvarez went that direction--he left Iowa for Notre Dame right before Bell showed up, then left Notre Dame to lead Wisconsin right as Jerome Bettis showed up. Seeing the success both guys had at the collegiate level, why not get Ron Dayne in the backfield and have him wear down an opposing defense that probably featured at least seven players who were lighter than him?
It's not hard to see why Bell didn't last long in the NFL: you can't take that kind of contact on from NFL-caliber tacklers and expect to make it through 16 games a year, every year. In fact, going back to Bettis, he himself was in danger of running himself out of the league after just a couple years too. Fortunately for Bettis, he developed his footwork and learned how to avoid taking direct hits before he got too banged up to run. Bell didn't make that adjustment in time, and he was out of the league in a hurry. That's not a problem I see coming for Greene, for what it's worth; not only do the Jets have Greene splitting carries for the foreseeable future, but he generally saves the head-on contact for light-hitting defensive backs instead of trying to run over linebackers. Those are very good instincts, and for as great as it is to see Nick Bell planting MSU linebackers flat on their back, we wish he would have picked his contact a little more judiciously and spent a few more years making highlights in the NFL. So it goes.
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Awesome video
He was before my time so I had never seen any highlights but very impressive. I was surprised to see how many of his best runs were on toss plays around the outside of the tackle. For as big of a guy as he was you would expect a lot more dives off guard but they really seemed to try to get him to the sideline.
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Apr 11, 2011 4:14 PM CDT reply actions
I was at the '91 Illinois game in Champaign
The Illinois game rates very high on my list of favorites. Before the game, the Illini faithful were very cocky; certainly as measured by the rate of F-words hurled my way. As for the game, I can’t put into words how much fun it was watching Bell run wild in that blowout. As for after the game, here’s one fun observation. Outside the stadium, vendors had been selling Illinois Rosebowl t-shirts for $10 pre-game, but after the game they were yelling, “$1 !, $1 !”, but I didn’t see any buyers.
I am barely old enough to remember
but my dad went to the game and taped it in case it was a classic, so I’ve seen that tape several times. Easily one of my favorite Iowa games ever (without question, in the top 5). I think it was right after the Deon Thomas scandal too, so that added a little heat to the match-up. My dad used to go to one road game a year and he believes that game in 1990 was the debut of the much-loathed “Fuck Iowa” t-shirt.
Bell destroyed Illinois that day, and I remember a fake field goal with Iowa up 28-7 in the 2nd quarter. That was a giant FUCK YOU from Hayden, who was undoubtedly a jedi master of the fuck you TD (and the fuck you celebration, the Hokey Pokey). Hayden knew how to rub it in, that’s for sure. 54-28 final score against a border rival in a match-up of top 10 teams. Love it.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
The F Iowa t-shirts
I believe you’re right about the t-shirts. It’s the first time I remember seeing them, and it made the smackdown all the sweeter. I’ve never understood people being so crass as to make shirts like that and to find childish joy in screaming, “Get your f-Iowa t-shirts”. I feel sorry for all the parents having to deal with that as they walked with their kids into the stadium.
by Space Hawkeye on Apr 11, 2011 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, it must be horrible for children to hear curse words on their way to watching young men give each other brain damage.
Context, man.
Fuck fuck fuckity fuck. Nope, didn’t hurt anyone.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Apr 12, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Have kids and try to explain to them that they can't say those words even though people are shouting them.
Then you’ll understand.
I am epic win. It is much inspirational, no? No pain, no pain - Rich Russian Guy from directv commercials
Seriously.
"'Do you have a go-to move?' 'I have seven of 'em.' 'Do you want to share maybe a few?' 'Naw, you'll see 'em.'"
by ReadingRambler on Apr 12, 2011 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know how you mean seriously, so i'm gonna move on and not respond
I am epic win. It is much inspirational, no? No pain, no pain - Rich Russian Guy from directv commercials
I think he's agreeing with you.
They should have sent a poet.
by Bucketochicken on Apr 12, 2011 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
That would be a miracle.
Rambler and I don’t seem to agree on much
I am epic win. It is much inspirational, no? No pain, no pain - Rich Russian Guy from directv commercials
Maybe it was an eye-roll "seriously."
They should have sent a poet.
by Bucketochicken on Apr 12, 2011 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
That was my other thought.
I am epic win. It is much inspirational, no? No pain, no pain - Rich Russian Guy from directv commercials
That would require a question mark.
"'Do you have a go-to move?' 'I have seven of 'em.' 'Do you want to share maybe a few?' 'Naw, you'll see 'em.'"
by ReadingRambler on Apr 13, 2011 7:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Pretty much.
"'Do you have a go-to move?' 'I have seven of 'em.' 'Do you want to share maybe a few?' 'Naw, you'll see 'em.'"
by ReadingRambler on Apr 13, 2011 7:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Wait, so we agreed twice in one thread?
Dogs and cats, living together. It’s mass hysteria!
I am epic win. It is much inspirational, no? No pain, no pain - Rich Russian Guy from directv commercials
I do.
And I tell them that they’re just words, but that certain folks don’t like to hear those words, and to be respectful. But they’re young, so that may not work forever.
Who knows. I just find the “oh my god people swearing around a gladiatorial event” thing a bit odd.
Don’t get me wrong. I hate to even think about the physically damaging side of the sport, but to claim that swear words are somehow worse leaves me puzzled.
That was my only point, and I wasn’t trying to be Debbie Downer.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Apr 13, 2011 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
A Debbie Fucking Downer, you mean.
They should have sent a poet.
by Bucketochicken on Apr 13, 2011 6:35 AM CDT up reply actions
It's a tough balance, to take kids to sporting events.
They don’t understand the physical damaging part of it, and thankfully I’ve never had to explain an injury on the field and I hope you haven’t either. The swearing is to be expected, it’s just a part of being a parent. Something like yelling to sell t-shirts is a little different than someone yelling at the ref, though. I wasn’t trying to be an ass in my comment and I hope you didn’t take offense to it.
I am epic win. It is much inspirational, no? No pain, no pain - Rich Russian Guy from directv commercials
Don't worry - we beat them in '91 too
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
by Nickhawk08 on Apr 11, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Great video. Incredible how the game has evolved
highlights against Wisconsin I couldn’t help but flashback(forward?) to Ron Dayne trucking the B1G.
I’m ready for football season, thanks for this nugget
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
Man I love the two tightend standing set
by ChryslerKinnick on Apr 11, 2011 4:43 PM CDT reply actions
I logged in to say the same thing
I do wish there was a place in the KF/KOK playbook for stand up tight ends. ITS A FRICKING IOWA TRADITION!
by Burge4517in1983 on Apr 11, 2011 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously, you're welcome.
Nine minutes of Nick Bell, occasional Keith Jackson, standing tight ends, run plays that take five minutes to develop, one of Hayden’s exotics, and my favorite Hayden Fry football trademark: insanely long dropbacks by the QBs.
I miss late ’80s and early ’90s football.
"'Do you have a go-to move?' 'I have seven of 'em.' 'Do you want to share maybe a few?' 'Naw, you'll see 'em.'"
I don't think there's anything
that couldn’t sound better narrated by vintage Keith Jackson
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Apr 11, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Porn?
Whoa Nelly!
My porn name is HogOfHawkness
by HeartOfHawkness on Apr 11, 2011 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
A Nelly Furtado concert?
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Apr 11, 2011 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Nick Bell is Marcus Coker re-incarnated, not Shonn Greene nor the likes of Ron Dayne, etc..
At least, that was my initial thought. You’ve mentioned why he’s not like Greene, but I also think he’s much more fluid as an athlete than Dayne or any of those guys were. Coker isn’t there, but I could definitely see him getting there. Dayne and Hill and others were about 5’10", bowling-ball like. Bettis was 5’11". I don’t know what Bell was, but he looks to be 6’2"-6’3" from the video, much more like Coker. Plus, Dayne and Bettis had fat on them, too. They would have been 235 at the same body fat % as Bell.
And I’m really don’t mean to say that just because Coker is at Iowa right now, although there are probably plenty of guys on other teams that he’d compare favorably to. Eddie George seems like one, but he was also more of a straight-line back. Coker and Bell certainly punish runners like Greene, Dayne, Bettis, etc., but they seem to be taller, leaner, and have fluid hips and long strides.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Okay, (after reviewing some highlights) Coker isn't quite the athlete and not quite as tall, but i still like the comparison
And maybe that changes with a couple seasons at Iowa. I would be surprised if Coker isn’t up to 240-250 by his senior season.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Bell had such great hands. If the ball touched his hands it was caught.
I don’t know how good a receiver Coker is right now. He is also a tad smaller than Bell who played 6’2" and 255 while Coker stands 6’0" and 235, but they do have similar running styles.
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
I don't believe Coker is only 6'0"
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I saw that.
And Rivals said 6’1". And he is young so i wouldn’t be surprised if he grew any more.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
He was a little before my time.
Not really, but I was too little to appreciate anything back then. But that screen pass early on is the type of play the d-backs hate to see. A big boy with blockers in the open field has to be a nightmare. And I absolutely love seeing it executed well.
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
by Pain in the Sash on Apr 11, 2011 5:55 PM CDT reply actions
My thoughts exactly.
To see a man of that size run down a defender and have the closing speed to do so, is quite impressive.
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
The Illinois game
will forever be one of my favorite Hawkeye memories as I grew up on a block populated by more than a few obnoxious Illini fans (yes, it is redundant). Even my English teacher (who I loved) made a point of taunting me before the game about how her alma mater and the mighty (heh) Jason Verdusco were going to run roughshod over the Hawks. I definitely had a strut to my step when I walked through the classroom doors that Monday.
That was the first NFL draft I could ever remember watching with great anticipation, eager to see where my favorite Hawkeye would land (dyslexic art student who plays football = mind-blowing to a 10 year-old). Too bad Bell’s career fell victim to the cesspool that is the Los Angeles Raiders…yeah, Ross, suck it.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
Too bad Bell’s career fell victim to the cesspool that is the Los Angeles Raiders…yeah, Ross, suck it.
You’re so hurtful, Kyle.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Let me fix that
You’re so hurtful truthful, Kyle.
You’re welcome.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Apr 12, 2011 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Mighty as in hillariously tiny.
"'Do you have a go-to move?' 'I have seven of 'em.' 'Do you want to share maybe a few?' 'Naw, you'll see 'em.'"
by ReadingRambler on Apr 11, 2011 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm often confused for Jason Verdusco or Dustin Pedroia.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Apr 12, 2011 2:27 AM CDT up reply actions
He would've made a better NFL tight end
I didn’t think he had the burst to cut it as an NFL running back. I was hoping the Raiders would convert him to a TE, they’ve had some great ones, but it didn’t happen.
by Chief Okemos on Apr 12, 2011 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I was lucky enough to see all of the home games during the Nick Bell experience
I even have a sweet signed rookie card…although it didn’t turn out to be a high dollar value collectible.
Bell and Saunders what a duo!
I remember as a kid thinking to myself that Iowa has a real NFL running back in Bell. Watching him now I’m again reminded of his brutish size. But now I’m double impress with his speed. It seems that he lumbers and then explodes! I’d also like to see his yards after catch stat and after yards first contact. Thing of beauty.
"Hardcore will never die, but you will."
I thought the tandem was Nick Bell and Tony Stewart
Did Saunders come around a couple years later? 1993ish?
Yep, Thunder & Lightning (clever!).
Not sure when the gloriously exotically-named Mike Saunders arrived though. Feels like it was before Stewart, but I was in middle school. {shrug}
They should have sent a poet.
by Bucketochicken on Apr 11, 2011 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I was saying to myself, it was Stewart, right?
Thanks for the correction.
"Hardcore will never die, but you will."
He ran track....
I remember seeing him in a 400 relay taking a baton from a guy half his size.
What A STUD!!!
I remember watching his highlights on “The Sports Machine”. He was amazing. The 12 step drops, double standing tight ends and crossbucks, it was daring and successful. Get the hint KF & KO
"Empty Backfield?"?!
I remember well when Hayden arrived in ‘79. Being a crazed fan, I followed every article and interview. I remember listening to or reading an interview with him in which he was asked about his offense plans. He said things like “stand-up tight ends” and “empty backfield”. I was so dumbfounded that I’m sure I couldn’t even utter WTF? It only took one game to realize we had found our salvation.
Wow, are you guys making me feel old!!!
I attended all those home games as a STUDENT, the 1991 games I watched from the sidelines & I think I would have happily ripped off an arm to be at that Rose Bowl.
The 1990 & 1991 seasons were awesome.
Damn, I miss college.
The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.
by HawkeyeGirleye on Apr 11, 2011 10:05 PM CDT reply actions
Awesome!
Nick was an incredible mix of size, speed and agility. Could run inside or outside and was a great receiver out of the backfield, too. Easily one of the best RBs to ever play at Iowa.
I was at that damn Rose Bowl game. Had no idea it would take more than 20 years for the Hawks to get back.
by Black and Gold on Apr 11, 2011 10:22 PM CDT reply actions
We all thought we'd make it back next year!
Damn’d In The Event Of A Tie The Team With The Longest Interval Between Rose Bowl Berths Gets To Go Rule.
The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.
by HawkeyeGirleye on Apr 11, 2011 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
It didn't help that they lost to Michigan at home in 1991
One of my first games in Kinnick, in the (windy) old south end zone. Hayden ran an insanely stupid (that’s being nice) fake punt deep in Iowa’s territory. Didn’t work, Michigan scored easily and handled the game from there.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
That is the game I remember most
We were leading & I was on the sidelines doing the fight song thinking: I’m going to the Rose Bowl!
/premature’d
The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.
by HawkeyeGirleye on Apr 11, 2011 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions
There are some great videos attached to this one at the very end.
1991 Ohio State, 1984 Michigan, Tavian Banks and Shonn Greene videos, a Rodney Coe video, 1990 Michigan, Greene’s run against Purdue in 2008, and a basketball video (1991 Indiana).
Just don’t go to #15. Trust me please.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
Whoever taught Nick Bell to fall forward,
is the best teacher of all time. I didn’t see one instance on that film (including a time or two where he was getting spun around) where Bell didn’t fall toward the first down or goal line.
Bell should be on those all-Iowa teams they have on the NCAA football video game. If I ever find that kind of free-time again (let’s go, summer), then I’ll have to create him. Running is probably 80% of my offense when I play that game.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
That Illinois game is one of my favorite Hawkeye memories,
and Nick is one of my all-time favorite Hawkeyes in any sport (by which I mean football or men’s hoops). I remember at that time being obsessed with Christian Okoye too, and just LOVING watching those guys completely demolish would-be tacklers.
They should have sent a poet.
by Bucketochicken on Apr 11, 2011 11:03 PM CDT reply actions
Bell was playing Tecmo Bowl in real life.
/meant as a compliment.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Apr 11, 2011 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
He was like 6 Bo Jacksons and 5 Cap Bosos all rolled into one.
They should have sent a poet.
by Bucketochicken on Apr 11, 2011 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Warren Moon + Haywood Jeffries = unstoppable
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Apr 12, 2011 2:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Add in Charles Jefferson
From Ridgemont High and you’re on to something.
by GaryDolphinSafeTuna on Apr 12, 2011 11:04 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Hey, that's an awfully clever name you've got there...
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Apr 12, 2011 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Rose Bowl
I was at the Rose Bowl for his final game. He played his ass off in the second half. I always tell people that Iowa didn’t lose that game. They just ran out of time because as sure as shit smells, if there had been 7 more minutes of football, Iowa would have won that game.
The next morning I was in the hotel lobby getting some breakfast. Who walks in? Nick Bell. He was there meeting with someone (I assume an agent) and I calming walked over, told him he played a great game, and got his autograph. Where is that thing?
by StrandedinIndiana on Apr 12, 2011 7:36 AM CDT reply actions
That insanely bad first half didn't help matters
Iowa gave UW 14 points with a blocked punt and a pick-6. 19-7 at half vs. 33-7 is a huge difference.
Those late 80s/early 90s Washington teams were stacked. Bad ass teams.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
Did they wear huge pads back in that time or what?
plus the torn away midriff jersey appears to be the look du jour. I don’t recall any Hawkeyes sporting that look however.
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
Yeah, old school RB's with neck rolls is awesome, and huge pads too.
But, talk about stabilizing your head so you can use it as a battering ram. I bet the total pad weight is half what it used to be, not to mention WR’s and CB’s not wearing any leg/hip/knee pads. That’s mostly in the pros though, and I would think that for as valuable that they are ($$$) you would rather have them protected and gain that tenth or hundredth of a second 40 time, but what do I know, my knee got destroyed anyway.
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Apr 12, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Considering that the joint injuries seem to happen when three guys are trying to tackle you...
and put you down in three different directions, you can see why they favor the speed.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Apr 12, 2011 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Joint injuries are the worst.
Cuz the heart of rock n roll, heart of rock n roll is still beatin'..... in Cleveland
....Detroit!
You've dropped one too many on yourself?
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Apr 13, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
That is the blunt truth of it.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Apr 13, 2011 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
A few observations
1. Two words – Yards after contact
2. I remember a Hayden saying something to the effect of Bell would go into the third row of stands to hit someone.
3. Can tell Rogers was a quarterback in the Hayden era. That fully upright, leaning waaay back, drop back is classic. Apparently that is the preferred method for the 18 step drop.
4. I had forgotten how great that guy’s hands were, I do remember running screen after screen to him and watching him destroy the opposing secondary. Then having Rogers drop back and launch one down field.
"Sometimes the truth gets in the way of a good story" - KF
by The Bacon Explosion on Apr 12, 2011 11:17 AM CDT reply actions
Nick Bell is my favorite all-time . . .
Not because I think he was the best or most talented. Simply because 1990 remains my favorite year following Iowa as I was an enthusiastic young sophomore and got to see every home game and the Illinois road game in person en route to an Iowa Rose Bowl appearance.
Until they go to and WIN a Rose Bowl, nothing will ever get better. And I’m saying this as a season ticket holder who went to the winning Orange Bowl game in 09-10.
Fond memories
of when we used to actually pitch the ball to a RB instead of turning our back and racing toward the opposite goal line to hand the ball off. KK? KF? Anybody?
Life is hard. It's really hard if you're stupid.
That beatdown of Illinois was so much fun
that I saved the videotape of the game to this day.
On a related note, the gal who used to cut my hair (when I had enough to cut) shared a house with Nick Bell for a while.
I also miss the days when jNW, Indiana and oW (only Wisconsin) were breather games.
by DrHenryKillinger on Apr 13, 2011 12:22 PM CDT reply actions
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