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Looking Ahead: 2011-2012 Iowa Wrestling -- 141 and 149

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Our look-ahead to Iowa wrestling in 2011-2012 continues with a look at two more lower weights, 141 and 149.  For background material on this series and a key for the tables below, click here.  Without further ado...

141: Montell Marion (JR, 13-5) and Mark Ballweg (SO, 15-3)
The Reasonable Expectation
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Between the fact that this is a fairly loaded weight in terms of returning contenders (both at the national and Big Ten levels) and the fact that Ballweg is such an unknown, it's hard to have a ton of faith in this weight having success this year.  Not to mention the fact that this weight feels slightly cursed; Marion was able to bust out and have an excellent season a year ago, but prior to that it's been the source of underachieveing results for a few years.  All of which is to say that if we see better than a top-five finish in the Big Ten and an NCAA Tournament qualifier out of this weight, then we're doing better than expected here.  Fingers crossed. (via)

The Result: (Marion): 4th place, Big Ten Tournament; 4th place, NCAA Tournament

The Verdict: This preview was written under the assumption that Mark Ballweg was going to be the guy here all season; had we known Marion was going to return, we would have aimed our sights a little higher.  Since Marion did return and left Ballweg displaced from 141 after January, we'll never know how well Mark would have done at the Big Ten or NCAA Tournaments and if he would have lived up to the fairly modest expectations we had here.  From what we saw in December and January, though, he was a very pleasant surprise -- he picked up a few nice wins (ISU's Chris Drouin, Oklahoma State's Josh Kindig) and showed a surprising knack for rolling up pins (he had seven as a starter at 141).  It's unclear how successful he would have been against the big three at this weight in the Big Ten (Russell, Thorn, Kennedy); Marion went just 2-5 against them.  As for Marion, it basically boils down to what I said in the NCAAs recap last week: he clearly has the talent to win at this weight -- he just needs to improve his mental game.  Outside of his loss to Kennedy at the Big Tens, all of his losses came at the end of the third period or in overtime.  He needs to sharpen up his performance there.
GRADE: B (for both guys)

Star-divide

Next Year:

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As loaded as this weight was in 2010-2011, it looks a bit more manageable next year.  Just three All-Americans return, although one of them is Russell, the defending national champion.  There are also some good wrestlers returning who didn't attain All-America status, like Penn State's Alton, Pitt's Nauman, and Air Force's Von Ohlen.  There are a few intriguing names among the newcomers, like Ohio State's Palmer (the younger brother of Lance, King of the Oompa-Loompas and Brent Metcalf's most persistent nemesis).  Josh Dziewa is a name to file away for future reference: he was a highly touted member of Iowa's 2010 class and has a ton of potential, but between Marion's return and the shoulder injury that kept him out of action for most of 2010-2011, we probably won't see much of him until 2012.  If Alton redshirts (as expected), the Big Ten race may mostly boil down to Russell and Marion.  Iowa has high potential at this weight in 2011-2012, but far they go will be determined by Marion's improvement.

149: Dylan Carew (rsFR, 2-0) and Jeret Chiri (SO, 4-4) and Matt Ballweg (SR, 4-5) and Mark Ballweg (SO, 1-5)
The Reasonable Expectation
:

Nationally, this weight is loaded with talented and experienced wrestlers -- and there are some pretty formidable guys on the Big Ten level as well.  Carew should do well, but the buzz on him isn't Metcalf-level crazy, so we'll call for him to be a national qualifier and be in the top four of the Big Ten.  If he can make All-American status, it'll be gravy. (via)

The Result: (Mark Ballweg): DNP, Big Ten Tournament; DNQ, NCAA Tournament

The Verdict: And now we reach the black hole of Iowa's line-up.  That preview was written in the expectation that Carew would wrestle all year; sadly, he was mistaken for a running back (or Robbie Hummel) shortly after the season started and wound up needing surgery on both ACLs before the season was even really underway.  Iowa rolled out a string of replacements, but they were never able to find someone who could be all that competitive against good competition.  Chiri and both of the fabulous Ballweg Brothers that platooned here all struggled. 

Which is a shame because this was a shallow weight in the Big Ten (though not so much nationally).  If Iowa had been able to roll out a halfway decent option here, a top-four finish at Big Tens wouldn't have been at all out of the question (which would have been enough to wrest the Big Ten title away from Penn State, too).  A run at All-American status might have been a bit too fanciful, since this was a pretty solid weight nationally -- as evidenced by the fact that only two Big Ten wrestlers made All-America status (and Nadhir had to wrestle out of his frizzy-haired gourd to do that).  It's hard to give this weight a grade, since the main option was out of the picture almost immediately.  The replacements did the best they could but, frankly, they shouldn't have been out there.  Then again, bad is bad.
GRADE: D

Next Year:

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149 should be tougher next year.  It was already a difficult weight nationally and six of the eight All-Americans from this past year should be returning, headlined by Cornell's Kyle Dake, now a two-time national champion (he won at 141 last year).  There's some speculation that Dake could move up another weight (to 157), but if not he'll definitely be the man to beat at 149.  His NCAA finals match against Molinaro was incredibly impressive.  On the Big Ten scene, things shouldn't be quite as down as they were this last year.  The Big Ten returns only one All-American (Molinaro), but there's some promising young talent ready to emerge: Michigan's Eric Grajales was a former big-time recruit who made a name for himself by finishing second at Big Tens after a rocky start to the season and Minnesota's Dylan Ness (little brother of recent Gopher wrestler Jayson Ness) is a serious talent.

As far as Iowa goes, while it's unclear who will step up at 149 next year, it's hard to envision the results being any worse than they were this year.  Iowa won barely any matches at 149 in Big Ten duals, went 0-2 at Big Tens, and failed to qualify anyone for the NCAA Tournament.  Literally any points would be a step up from that mess.  There's no shortage of options at this weight, either.  The two favorites are probably Carew (if he's fully healed from his ACL surgeries) and Mark Ballweg (if he can bulk up a bit) and either guy would be promising.  Carew had very good prep credentials and wrestled well during his redshirt year, while Ballweg did well at 141 this year and was close to picking up a few wins at 149 as well, despite the size disadvantage.  Other names to know are Jake Ballweg (Mark's younger brother and, reportedly, the best of the Ballweg clan) and Michael Kelly (a member of last year's killer recruiting class who redshirted this year and competed at 157 and 165, but who may be able to get down to 149).  I don't know (yet) if any of these guys will be All-America candidates next March, but they should certainly be able to make Iowa much more competitive at this weight.



NEXT: 157 and 165

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Kelly is supposedly right there with Nick Moore

it will be interesting to see what happens at 149, 157, and 165. I think a lot of guys are going to be moving around.

"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands

by Lycurgus on Mar 29, 2011 3:41 PM CDT reply actions  

If anyone claims to know what is happening with our middle weights

they’re either lying or delusional. It will be completely undecided until the first meet of the season, and probably still able to change pretty easily after that.

"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable

by ClaybornSmash on Mar 29, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's try for lying and delusional

CarfinosWay is going at 125, ClaybornSmash you will take 157, Ross will take 165, and I am going to make a push at 197.

"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands

by Lycurgus on Mar 29, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wish I was 157 still...

Actually I wrestled 135 freshman year in High School. Crazy to think I’m about 185 now.

"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable

by ClaybornSmash on Mar 29, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

174 it is then.

I am not sure if CW will be eligible after her throat and groin attack on J Robinson.

"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands

by Lycurgus on Mar 29, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jeeze, I will clean it up if I have to.

You know some people won’t let me wrestle because I’m a girl. I say, if I earn it I should be let in.

Whatever farm animal of war, Lana. Shut up!

by Carfino'sWay on Mar 30, 2011 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're in kid

"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands

by Lycurgus on Mar 30, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will start cutting weight right away.

Anyone want to run some stairs in plastics?

Whatever farm animal of war, Lana. Shut up!

by Carfino'sWay on Mar 30, 2011 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

185? Cutting to 157 sounds about right.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Mar 29, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I was actually in shape

160 would probably be about my weight, so 157 would be doable.

"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable

by ClaybornSmash on Mar 30, 2011 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

if 160 is your healthy weight you'd probably wrestle at 141

It’s crazy how much weight these guys cut

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Mar 30, 2011 12:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Bless your heart!!

I will do my best to make you all proud.

Whatever farm animal of war, Lana. Shut up!

by Carfino'sWay on Mar 30, 2011 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're general disregard for peoples' feelings makes you a perfect fit for Iowa wrestling

"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands

by Lycurgus on Mar 30, 2011 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck 'em all.

Actually, it is that general disregard for sugarcoating that has made it somewhat difficult for me to get ahead in the corporate word from time to time.

Whatever farm animal of war, Lana. Shut up!

by Carfino'sWay on Mar 30, 2011 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are the female version of Raylan. If only you were occassionally allowed

to wing a KU fan or two

"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands

by Lycurgus on Mar 30, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm taking 149.

Penn State wouldn’t accept me because I kept cracking jokes about Cael’s mother.

So, anyway, I’m taking 149.

"Use their guts to lubricate our single leg attacks!" - Lycurgus

by ReadingRambler on Mar 30, 2011 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

All right, though I am still not sure that you have the intensity level needed

"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands

by Lycurgus on Mar 30, 2011 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what you all said about Unicorn Rider.

National runner up, man.

"Use their guts to lubricate our single leg attacks!" - Lycurgus

by ReadingRambler on Mar 31, 2011 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

You better AA then, my friend

149 is yours

"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands

by Lycurgus on Mar 31, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

No one at that weight next year.

Parks is going down, Chamberlain too. I can probably ride Molinaro out.

"Use their guts to lubricate our single leg attacks!" - Lycurgus

by ReadingRambler on Mar 31, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds good

though I worry about how you will be received at BSD after that

"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands

by Lycurgus on Mar 31, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you really hear that Parks and Chamberlain are dropping down?

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 31, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I skimmed that comment too quickly

and read it as “Parks and Recreation getting dropped” and nearly splotzed myself.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Mar 31, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry, should have been more careful.

“Going down” in this case means I plan on dominating the matches.

"If you were to give the United States of America an enema, you'd stick the hose right here in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania!" - Bret Hart

by ReadingRambler on Mar 31, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh. Well, naturally.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 31, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

If only I were that tall and thin.

Do I have to wear the cowboy hat? I love him very much. I’m going to try and watch it tonight in case a spontaneous conversation comes up tomorrow.

You would be very proud of me. I didn’t start anything with any KU fans on Monday. However, I accidentally wore black and gold but was called out about it so I had to tell them what I thought.

Whatever farm animal of war, Lana. Shut up!

by Carfino'sWay on Mar 30, 2011 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

No hat needed

I think we are putting together a pretty strong line-up.

I hope you gave those Jayhawks some trouble.

"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands

by Lycurgus on Mar 30, 2011 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the hat.

I agree. I think we could take any other site on SBN.

You can’t reason with Jayhawks.

Whatever farm animal of war, Lana. Shut up!

by Carfino'sWay on Mar 30, 2011 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll take heavyweight

And I know I’ll be more aggressive than BR is.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Mar 31, 2011 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Alton will almost certainly be redshirting.

His replacement may be some guy named Sam Sherlock. If he lives up to that name, whoa, boy, look out.

"Use their guts to lubricate our single leg attacks!" - Lycurgus

by ReadingRambler on Mar 29, 2011 5:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Backup breakdown!

According to the Iowa roster, here are the guys available for…

141: Jacob Ballweg, Mark Ballweg, Josh Dziewa, Tyler Halverson, Montell Marion, Ethan Owens, Nick Trizzino

149: Dylan Carew, Jeret Chiri, Stew Gillmor, Ethan Sebert

157: Anthony Baldosaro, Jeret Chiri, Stew Gillmor, Michael Kelly, Nick Moore, Ethan Sebert

"Gold medals aren't really made of gold. They're made of sweat, determination, and a hard-to-find alloy called guts." -Dan Gable

by ScottHawkeye on Mar 29, 2011 9:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Of course...

There are additional people who moved around this past year. They screw this (see comment above) all up.

"Gold medals aren't really made of gold. They're made of sweat, determination, and a hard-to-find alloy called guts." -Dan Gable

by ScottHawkeye on Mar 29, 2011 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think Baldosaro is still with the Iowa program.

Not sure why he’s still on the official roster on HawkeyeSports.

A lot of these are good training room guys but not likely to crack the main line-up — Owens (12-10), Sebert (2-4), Gillmor (3-4), Trizzino (10-5) probably fit into that category. Chiri too, although he was forced into action at 149 this year out of desperation.

Marion and Carew are likely starters. The Ballwegs will vie for starting spots over the next 3-4 years. Dziewa was a big-time recruit. Ditto Kelly and Moore (and more on them tomorrow). Not sure about Halverson — the name doesn’t ring a bell and he isn’t listed as wrestling at all this year. That makes me think he’s not likely to be a big factor.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 29, 2011 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

/briefly dons trolly-colored hat

Dziewa was the first of what could be many future Tier 2 Pennsylvania ‘big-time recruits’ who opt to head west to wrestle for Brands or John Smith or Kevin Jackson, as spaces in the Bill Koll Wrestling Room get eaten up by the Tier 1 grapplers who have beaten them throughout their scholastic careers. Dziewa and Kindig were fine central PA grapplers who could never get past the Altons. Perhaps Brands and Smith can help them to do so at the collegiate level.

/ends ribbing and hopes for the best

jtothetweet
"Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in '01". - former buckeye Antonio Pittman

by jtothep on Mar 30, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

You must never have heard the legend of Jesse Whitmer

"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands

by Lycurgus on Mar 30, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's the truest beauty of the sport

Something our Unicorn Rider can tell you: anything can happen any time you step out on the mat.

Still, talent is nice.

jtothetweet
"Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in '01". - former buckeye Antonio Pittman

by jtothep on Mar 30, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

(rolls eyes)

If pre-college results were the be-all, end-all, St. John would have been 3-0 against the Sainted Unicorn this year. Things change. I’ll certainly take Iowa’s track record of developing guys (especially at the lower weights) against anyone.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 30, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Things change."

They certainly do, don’t they?

T TO THE R TO THE OLL

"Use their guts to lubricate our single leg attacks!" - Lycurgus

by ReadingRambler on Mar 30, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Even PSU can crawl out from under a half century of sucking

things do change

"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands

by Lycurgus on Mar 30, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

In seriousness, I spent all of last fall arguing at BSD that there is a distinct difference between mediocrity and suckage, so I can’t just give it up now.

"Use their guts to lubricate our single leg attacks!" - Lycurgus

by ReadingRambler on Mar 30, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, you are right

mediocrity is more appropriate

"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands

by Lycurgus on Mar 30, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

You just wish that little orange ditty on the bottom was a football

Let’s hear about PSU caring about wrestling for more than one year before we consider you fans.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Mar 30, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's certainly a popular dig

When an opponent makes a financial commitment to unseat the tenured. And not a little bit Ohio Stateian either. But once that commitment was made, it’s not like we couldn’t see the Championships coming. But the point is not lost on us: gotta start first with a repeat and next year is gonna be funnnnn.

On a note related to talent pools, the wrestlingreport put out this factoidal sheet that included some interesting numbers for the 2011 tournament.

The top 6 states represented by the 330 wrestlers:
1. Pennsylvania 46
2. New York 26
3. New Jersey 24
>>Ohio 24
5. California 23
6. Michigan 18
7. Colorado 12
>>Iowa 12
>>Illinois 12

jtothetweet
"Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in '01". - former buckeye Antonio Pittman

by jtothep on Mar 30, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just hope none of them were from Boiling Springs.

"Use their guts to lubricate our single leg attacks!" - Lycurgus

by ReadingRambler on Mar 30, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well thought out and interesting retort

especially considering the dicky attitude of my little comment.

I’m a fan of PSU wrestling becoming better and spreading the gospel of college wrestling. I’ll just be happier when you’re fighting with the rest of the pack for 2nd place instead of landing on top in our rightful spot.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Mar 30, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha, it's tough to resist (dicky attitudes) during trashtalk in Blogistan

In a Candor Exchange, my first draft of this sentence looked like this:

On a note related to talent pools, the wrestlingreport put out this factoidal sheet that included some interesting numbers for the 2011 tournament where Penn State was crowned National Champions.

And feel free to count on us to spread the gospel of wrestling. You guys are far more interesting to rival with than the bizarre weirdos up at Cornell. (another disclosure: I’ve personally had next to no interaction with Big Red wrestling fans yet)

jtothetweet
"Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in '01". - former buckeye Antonio Pittman

by jtothep on Mar 30, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh huh.
When an opponent makes a financial commitment to unseat the tenured. And not a little bit Ohio Stateian either.

Or Penn Stateian, based on prevailing football attitudes over the last few decades.

But once that commitment was made, it’s not like we couldn’t see the Championships coming.

And comments like that are exactly the sort of obnoxious overconfidence that’s brought Penn State fans so much vitriol from Iowa fans. Penn State fans hired Sanderson and immediately wanted the same respect lavished on them that goes to programs like Iowa or Oklahoma State or Minnesota. Respect is earned by winning, not by making splashy hires or signing plenty of big-name recruits (and big names and gaudy star rankings are no more a guarantee of success in wrestling than they are in basketball or football).

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 30, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Penn State fans hired Sanderson and immediately wanted the same respect lavished on them that goes to programs like Iowa or Oklahoma State or Minnesota.

That’s just not true. There was no demand for immediate respect to be lavished based on the hire alone. A bunch of smack talk about the future and changes coming in the form of results, sure.

And the Ohio Stateian was in reference to the comment about ‘considering us fans,’ being as preposterous as the ‘considering x to be rivals or not’ notions that float around, notions I’ve always considered a joke no matter who’s in the predicate seat.

But, hey, all characterizations are fair game in blogistan and probably what I get for poking bears.

jtothetweet
"Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in '01". - former buckeye Antonio Pittman

by jtothep on Mar 30, 2011 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aww.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 30, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please tell me you GIS'd "poking bears" to get that image

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Mar 30, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh... sure. Yep.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 30, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only if you promise to whisper

More sweet nothings about how respect is earned in the pillow talk; it’s hot.

jtothetweet
"Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in '01". - former buckeye Antonio Pittman

by jtothep on Mar 30, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

As if anyone cares about my opinion, but I have never attempted to clamor for respect here and neither has jtot. Not in this thread or any other. For crying out loud, this is an Iowa blog. Ohio State fans always demand respect – they do it when they’re asleep – but I’m not even sure they’d have the balls to clamor for wrestling respect on an Iowa blog.

On the other hand, we have talked smack and there’s no way to turn that off.

"Use their guts to lubricate our single leg attacks!" - Lycurgus

by ReadingRambler on Mar 30, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well...
On the other hand, we have talked smack and there’s no way to turn that off.

There is, but I am a kindly authoritarian.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 30, 2011 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

And yet the state of Iowa still had the second most AA's

Interesting

"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable

by ClaybornSmash on Mar 30, 2011 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you divide these numbers by the high school student populations in each state

Iowa takes a significant jump up the ladder.

with the strength of a grizzly, the reflexes of a puma, and the wisdom of a man.

by Kluginator on Apr 1, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, in my defense, what was I supposed to do? I didn’t even know wrestling existed until I watched an Illinois-NW dual (Note the lack of PSU) one night on the BTN. I haven’t been able to turn away since, my knowledge is slowly increasing, and I certainly couldn’t cheer for Iowa or Oklahoma State.

"Use their guts to lubricate our single leg attacks!" - Lycurgus

by ReadingRambler on Mar 30, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

So you're blatantly admitting you're a fan only since the Cael years?

Ignorance is no excuse of the (fan) law, sir.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Mar 30, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

"Use their guts to lubricate our single leg attacks!" - Lycurgus

by ReadingRambler on Mar 30, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

You will cheer for us or you will know true suffering

"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands

by Lycurgus on Mar 30, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, actually, either way you will know suffering

rock and a hard place

"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands

by Lycurgus on Mar 30, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really, Rambler? I know you can tell me better lies.
I didn’t even know wrestling existed until I watched an Illinois-NW dual (Note the lack of PSU) one night on the BTN.

Yeah. Right.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 30, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's figuratively speaking.

I hadn’t watched a dual meet, Big Tens, NCAAs anything until this year. Maybe some highlights, but that’s it.

Pinky promise.

"Use their guts to lubricate our single leg attacks!" - Lycurgus

by ReadingRambler on Mar 30, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think we'll find out more

during the first few weeks of the season. In this year’s season preview provided by the University of Iowa (found here), Ramos was barely on the radar for 133.

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by ScottHawkeye on Mar 29, 2011 9:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Ramos didn't get a lot of ink there, but he was a pretty big recruit.

There would have been a lot more buzz around him if he hadn’t gotten hurt during his redshirt year.

I agree it’s impossible to say who will be starting in each spot, but we can definitely identify the most likely challengers for spots. It would be a pretty big shock of the starters at 141/149 didn’t come out of the group of Marion, J Ballweg, M Ballweg, and Carew — with an outside possibility of Dziewa or Kelly factoring in.

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by RossWB on Mar 29, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Hence, your article.

I think the only thing we know about the middle weights is that we know nothing. Good analysis. Looking forward to further articles.

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by ScottHawkeye on Mar 29, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Things will all be sorted out by Brands and by the wrestlers. As Nate Moore has consistently shown us, it’s not all about preseason ranking. Some things just need to be decided in the wrestling room.

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by ScottHawkeye on Mar 30, 2011 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

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