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2011 Iowa Spring Football Preview: Five Questions On Offense

1) The quarterback derby begins anew.  For the first time since 2008, Iowa enters spring with some uncertainty at the QB position.  If you'll recall, back then Iowa had a returning starter (the immortal JC6), but (a) he hadn't been very good and (b) the team had kinda stunk and people were clamoring for change.  Enter: the Americanzi, who generated increasing amounts of positive buzz during spring and fall camp (despite a brief injury setback), then took over the job full-time a month into the 2008 campaign.  From then on it was three years of "love it or leave it," STANZIBALLS, and fourth-quarter comebacks (er, more or less).  But Stanzi is off to (hopefully) ply his trade in the NFL, which leaves a void at QB1.  The expected successor is James "the Mandenberg" Vandenberg, who emerged as QB2 during the 2009 season (starting two games and playing most of another after the WOOTENOCALYPSE) and remained in that spot during the 2010 season. 

Working in Vandenberg's favor is the fact that he has more experience than any other option (two starts, plus most of the '09 jNW game and some mop-up duty in other games), he's been getting QB2 reps for the better part of two years, and he came thisclose to leading Iowa to a Big Ten-title clinching win in the 'shoe in 2009.  Working against Vandy is the fact that Iowa went just 1-2 in games with lots of Mandenberg action and the fact that his career stats (49% completion, 515 yards, 3/5 TD/INT) aren't going to wow anyone.  The most obvious replacement is fellow junior John Wienke, who came to Iowa with more hype (he was an Elite 11 QB prospect and a Michigan verbal until RichRod became the head coach) but who has thus far toiled behind Vandy on the depth chart.  In fact, he's logged zero career passes so far.  If he's going to make his move and be anything more than the new Jason Manson, this spring is the time to do it.  The odds-on favorite is still Vandy, but you never know.  The odds-on favorite in 2008 was Christensen -- and we all know how that turned out.  FUN FACT: Vandendberg would be Iowa's first native Iowan starting quarterback since the immortal Kyle McCann.

Star-divide

2) Who's "next man in" at running back?  Partially by way of performance (why, hello, 219 yards and 2 TDs in the Insight Bowl) and partially by way of AIRBHG-influenced departures (OW MY KNEE, OW MY [RUMOR REDACTED], OW MY DRUGS), Marcus Coker finds himself atop the running back depth chart as we head into spring.  That's kind of a new phenomenon for Iowa -- you'd probably have to back to 2007 and Albert Young's senior season to find the last time we had a starter etched in stone in spring (although you could argue that Jewel Hampton was pretty much a lock to start in spring 2009, too).  We know what the Coked-Up Werewolf brings to the table after a half-season of punishing running: a wicked stiff-arm, the ability to blow up fools, and some better-than-expected quicks.  He still has a few things to work on (catching the ball out of the backfield, running with a lower pad level), but that's fine.  His main priority is making it to September without incurring the wrath of AIRBHG.

But whither his backups?  In truth, this question probably won't get answered until summer, when incoming recruits Rodney Coe, Mika'il McCall, Jordan Canzeri, and Damon Bullock get to campus.  On the other hand, the guys who are here now will have a leg up on those guys.  The bad news is "the guys who are here now" amounts to De'Andre Johnson and a bunch of walk-ons (including noted Brandon Wegher impersonator, Jason White, and Broderick Binns' little brother, Marcus).  Johnson was the rare freshman running back at Iowa who was actually able to take a redshirt year, although it was kind of necessitated by the fact that he was still rehabbing from an ACL injury suffered in high school.  By all accounts he's up to full-speed now and he should comfortably take the RB2 spot in spring.  Whether he holds on to that position by September is another matter.

3) Who steps up at wide receiver?  This was also going to be an issue after Iowa lost a four-year starter (and all-time leading receiver) in DJK, but the scrutiny on this position was heightened by the news that Marvin McNutt, Iowa's only returning starter at WR, was going to miss the spring after undergoing surgery on his thumb/shoulder.  So there will be no shortage of opportuntiies for the new faces at WR this spring.  The biggest name in the mix is Keenan Davis, a 4* recruit who's seen sporadic playing time through his first two years.  He's got pretty ideal size (6'3", 195) and has flashed moments of impressive talent at times, but consistency has been a bugaboo.  This is his chance to shine.

After Davis, there's a mix of guys who are recent recruits and walk-ons.  In the former camp, the most notable names are Jordan Cotton, Don Shumpert, and Kevonte Martin-Manley.  Cotton is the oldest -- he's entering his third year in the program -- and should have a good shot to see a lot of playing time.  Martin-Manley (or KMM as he's destined to be known to lazy Iowa fans, including this one) is an intriguing prospect -- DJK has given him props on Twitter a few times and there's been other scuttlebutt that suggests he could be in line for quite a bit of playing time.  There are also a few interesting walk-on prospects: Steven Staggs is a former HS teammate of Tyler Sash and has good size (6'3", 195), James Hurt was Vandenberg's favorite target at Keokuk, and Blake Haluska is, well, a Haluska and we still have some residual warm fuzzies from the last Haluska to wear black-and-gold.

4) Is this the Polish Hat's coming out party?  Outside of maybe Marcus Coker (or James Morris, if you just like seeing dudes get hit), there was probably no other true freshman people were more amped to see in action last year than our friend the Polish Hat (better known to his family as C.J. Fiedorowicz).  He played, but he wasn't exactly put in a position to live up to the hype.  The Hat mostly saw action late in blowouts, on special teams, or in the occasional goalline package.  He didn't record any catches.  On the other hand, Iowa had two experienced (at least in terms of years in the program, if not necessarily playing time) and capable tight ends in Allen Reisner and Brad Herman, so it was difficult to find playing time for Fiedorowicz.  But Reisner is gone and while Herman should ascend to the top line on the tight end depth chart, Iowa's love of two-tight end sets should give Fiedorowicz many more opportunities to strut his stuff this season.

5) Changing of the (offensive) guards?  By most measures, Iowa returns three starters on the offensive line (tackles Riley Reiff and Marcus Zusevics and center James Ferentz), but they really return five players with starting experience -- in addition to the three already listed, guards Adam Gettis and Nolan MacMillan started at times last year.  So there's experience there even if they aren't technically listed as "returning starters" because they weren't starting at the end of the season (Julian Vandervelde and Josh Koeppel were instead).  Still, there's a chance that they might not start this year, either, even if they're healthy.  Reiff, Ferentz, and Zusevics appear to have their starting jobs pretty well locked down, which leaves just the two guard spots available for new faces -- and there will be plenty of new faces interested in those spots.  One area where Iowa has recruited well in recent years is offensive line, so guys like Andrew Donnal, Conor Boffeli, Drew Clark, Brandon Scherff, and Brett Van Sloten could definitely be in the mix.  There's also a few upperclassmen (like Woody Orne and perpetual BHGP favorite Casey McMillan) who are running out of chances to make an impact -- sometimes guys like that blossom at the end of their careers.  Another thing to note is that Iowa could be losing both tackles after this season (if Reiff goes pro a year early); one of the common career paths for linemen at Iowa is to get their feet wet as guards and then move out to tackle after a year or two.  Guys like Donnal, Scherff, and Van Sloten have been talked about as future tackles, so it could be beneficial to get them some action this year to get them ready for next year. 

TOMORROW: Five questions on the defensive side of the ball.

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Video from yesterday’s Pro Day is up on gohawks.com

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Mar 22, 2011 3:49 PM CDT reply actions  

I've not yet read the article

But wanted to say that I’m glad that the transportation equivalent of James Vandenberg is a streamship as opposed to a blimp. Even though he did go up in flames against Northwestern in ’09.

by The Mexican't on Mar 22, 2011 3:59 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Ross, Nice work as always

any word on the JC kid, Heiar, at OL. Usually Kirk does not like to bring in JC’s unless he sees them playing immediately.

He has good height for guard (6’5") and is supposed to have good footwork but may be a little on the small side at 280 lbs, IMO

with the strength of a grizzly, the reflexes of a puma, and the wisdom of a man.

by Kluginator on Mar 22, 2011 4:47 PM CDT reply actions  

No, I forgot about him, but good catch

He’ll be around this spring and he’ll be another guy in the mix for playing time on the offensive line.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 22, 2011 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Hawkeyes live or die by their line play

We seem to be able to excel with average talent at most other positions but if the line can’t get it done, we are just average at best.

with the strength of a grizzly, the reflexes of a puma, and the wisdom of a man.

by Kluginator on Mar 22, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good thing our line is almost always great then huh?

i would say our line tends to be really good 3 out of every 4 years. and i cant remember the last time Iowa had a bad O-line (though my Iowa memories only are from 2002 on, didn’t start watching Iowa athletics until i was 12)

by justsomehawkeyefan on Mar 22, 2011 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eh.

The 2007 offensive line wasn’t very good at all. The 2006 and 2009 lines weren’t any great shakes, either. Although the 2009 line never had all the best pieces healthy at the same time — Bulaga was dealing with his health issues while Dace was ripping shit up and when Bulaga started getting good again Dace went down.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 22, 2011 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

"I can't remember the last time Iowa had a bad O-line-

2007 would like to have a word with you

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Mar 22, 2011 6:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Jeez, shut me up hard XD

but the reason i didnt mention it was that, i think i completely blocked out that year from my memory. no joke, i actually cant remember a game from that whole year.

by justsomehawkeyefan on Mar 22, 2011 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have a weird relationship with that season.

On one hand, it had some of the most painful and ugly losses I can recall (ISU, Indiana, Purdue, Penn State, and Western Michigan of course).

It also had some games I’m very fond of, though — beating the only good Illinois team in recent memory was great, especially since hardly anyone gave Iowa a shot in that game. The second half and overtime of the Michigan State game was a blast. And it had the only enjoyable jNW game since 2002.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 22, 2011 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I very much remember how great it was to be at Kinnick for that MSU game.

I can also pretty vividly remember the trip to Soldier Field for the Northern Illinois game.

However, I am still depressed at getting slapped at home by an Indiana team that really wasn’t that great. And we did it in a fashion that I would absolutely love if it had happened for Iowa instead of to Iowa – with a career performance from a fullback.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 22, 2011 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember the NIU game

mostly because of the great seats I had and tailgating with a group of friends. But the game was pretty terrible. I should have known right then it was going to be a dicey year

It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?

by chitownhawkeye on Mar 23, 2011 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember everything surrounding the Soldier Field game

but absolutely nothing of the game itself.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Mar 23, 2011 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the biggest thing I remember is that...

during that game, I was sitting with a cousin of mine (she grew up in Iowa, but is a Michigan fan?) She broke the App State news to me. Thank God that never happened to Iowa, amirite?

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 23, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was a good game.

I came in for the game and met up with some buddies from DC there for a bachelor party. I got a suite at the W on Lakeshore and got freaking burnt at the game. Then had drinks with Snoop at the hotel the next night after he performed at Soldier field.

Battles are won with a hammer, wars are won with a scalpel

by C.I.owA on Mar 24, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good time, not game.

Battles are won with a hammer, wars are won with a scalpel

by C.I.owA on Mar 24, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

My aunt, an Illini fan, offered to take me to that Illinois game.

I passed because I wasn’t about to let her heckle me throughout. I was extremely disappointed that I had to miss it.

by The Mexican't on Mar 23, 2011 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Shada nearly killed me that same year.

While watching the Indiana game at Old Chicago I was so angry that I nearly walked into traffic on the Coralville strip.

by The Mexican't on Mar 23, 2011 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why?

Did you want to plant your face on the bumper of a car moving twice your speed so you knew how he felt that afternoon?

by PackerHawk on Mar 23, 2011 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

I figured if I chased something faster and bigger than me that I’d understand just how miserable his day was going.

by The Mexican't on Mar 23, 2011 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

2006 was Shada's really awful game against Indiana, FYI.

That was the one where Hardy really made him look foolish.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 23, 2011 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well maybe it wasn't Shada.

Maybe it was just Indiana in general. I just remember the game being on BTN and not being able to get tickets so a friend and I went to Old Chicago. I didn’t feel good about it and then that stupid fumble-scramble-TD happened and I walked out.

by The Mexican't on Mar 23, 2011 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that game sucked so hard.

My two biggest memories from that game are that stupid fumble play and Lewis checking down to the fullback in the flat all goddamn game. I swear that bastard had almost 100 receiving yards.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 23, 2011 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think this is where the term "Shadafreuden" come from.

with the strength of a grizzly, the reflexes of a puma, and the wisdom of a man.

by Kluginator on Mar 23, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

To me, this spring (like every spring) is most important for "next step" guys

and that means these guys need to step it up"
Keenan Davis
Nolan MacMillan
and, of course, Vandy.

But especially Davis.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Mar 22, 2011 5:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Davis is an enigma

He obviously has talent, but it really feels like we’ve wasted at least a year of his eligibility by playing him his freshmen year in the first few games then never letting him on the field after the Michigan game. I understand McNutt’s emergence erased some of the need in 2009, but I feel he was really under-utilized in 2010. It’s just my opinion, but it seems someone on the coaching staff was just to wedded to Sandeman and the cost was drastic under-use of Davis last season. I’m not sure, however, if it was because Davis just didn’t “get it”, or if this was the coaching staff’s blindspot for upper classmen regardless of ability rearing its ugly head again.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Mar 22, 2011 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

In fairness to Sandeman,

he rarely had a bad game, and he was a tough son-of-a-bitch.

I think we’ll miss him more than we think.

For some reason, I’ve always though Jordan Cotton could be truly excellent. Perhaps this year, we begin to find out if that’s possible.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 22, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think we'll miss

seeing Colin fumble a perfect pass, kick it up in the air, and then have the Penn St. guy intercept. it.

Colin was OK at best, he won’t be missed much.

by DrHenryKillinger on Mar 23, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Because it's always best to judge a kid's career on one fluke play.

Sandeman was a solid possession receiver. Although he may not be remembered as fondly as McNutt or DJK, the kid was a tremendous asset in the WR corps.

by The Mexican't on Mar 23, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just think of his great TD catch in the Orange Bowl

That should make you feel better

"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable

by ClaybornSmash on Mar 23, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not quite

the simple fact is that weird play against PSU was Sandeman’s most memorable play, good or bad, during his entire career. The rest of the time, he was merely servicable. And I’m not sure how fluky it was, I can’t remember the exact game, but I remember this past season Sandeman bobbling a pass and managing to knock it straight up in the air (with his hands), just begging for it to be picked off. Fortunately, this time it fell harmlessly to the turf.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Mar 23, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think that's being a little harsh.

His catch in the Orange Bowl was certainly memorable — or should have been, anyway. That was a great throw and catch.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 23, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

This

I my memory of Sandeman, but maybe I just like to remember the good times more than the bad

"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable

by ClaybornSmash on Mar 23, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

It might be a little harsh

and Sandeman is probably unfairly bearing the brunt of my anger/disappointment in Davis’ eligibility being wasted. Sadly, some of the coaching staff (coughFerentzcough) have shown a tendency to over-value upperclassmen and continue to give them playing time at the expense of more talented under-classmen. I think that may have been the case here.

Of course, the opposite could be true, in that Davis was NOT good enough to unseat Sandeman as the 3rd WR this past season. If that’s the case, it certainly raises some red flags about Davis’ development as a player. In the end, it’s all rather moot, what’s done is done.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Mar 23, 2011 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe that was early on against MSU.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Mar 23, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

For me, Sandeman’s most memorable play is always the incompletion that led to somewhat controversial 3rd down pass interference penalty during the 2008 Penn State game. Then I always remember that that was Trey Stross.

Honestly, it’s either that or the Michigan State hit.

"Use their guts to lubricate our single leg attacks!" - Lycurgus

by ReadingRambler on Mar 23, 2011 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Um

I think Sandeman dropped a lot of balls he shouldn’t have, didn’t have great separation speed and was a thoroughly average player. I think Sandeman was an easily replaceable player, but it does worry me that Davis could never supplant him on the depth chart.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Mar 23, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think our collective memories have come up with two drops,

albeit, possibly big ones. However, the guy was a return man whenever he was healthy, so I think the coaches had confidence in his hands, and I am struggling to remember him dropping many punts.

To be honest, my biggest memory of him was when those dirty felons from Michigan State started head-hunting late in that night game at East Lansing. But Sandeman was absolutely solid, and I think he had decent speed. His high school Scout profile listed his 40 time at 4.5 (certainly not blazing, but not terrible, either), and has “size, speed, and toughness” as his strengths.

I am actually starting to think that Ricky having DJK, Sandeman, and McNutt for most of his time as a starting QB really may have inflated Ricky’s numbers a bit. I think a lot of mid-tier programs (I say mid-tier because that is what we were in the Big Ten in 2008 and 2010) would have killed to have a third WR like Sandeman.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 23, 2011 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'd agree that davis' freshman year was a waste.

but i think that he’ll perfom quite well this year as a starter. Soup is the best assistant on the staff and turned McNutt into a truly great receiver and I don’t think KOK wanted to take PT away from Sandeman because he was a solid receiver and never did anything to lose his spot. Davis was the wideout in the running HB-FB-2TE-WR package which I think really helped him get his feet wet with playing time.

by BoilerHawk on Mar 23, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Coach Soup said that Keenan had the most talent of any wide receiver he ever coached. Think about that!

All of the amazing receivers he coached at Michigan (the good one) in his day. And he thinks Davis has the most potential. Hope he is right.

Battles are won with a hammer, wars are won with a scalpel

by C.I.owA on Mar 23, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've read similar things

and I know that’s part of the reason they rushed Davis onto the field in 2009, his talent was such that the coaches wanted to find a way to use him. I just think it’s unfortunate that he has been drastically underutilized and now only has 2 years of eligibilty left, he and the team would have been better served if he had redshirted during the 2009 campaign.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Mar 23, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Battles are won with a hammer, wars are won with a scalpel

by C.I.owA on Mar 23, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps.

Or he could have redshirted in 2009, not played until 2011 anyway, had two good years and left for the NFL after 2012. Or if (god forbid) he suffers a serious injury this spring or summer (or next spring or summer) he has a redshirt year handy to use (something I believe Jordan Bernstine and/or Tony Moeaki took advantage of while they were at Iowa). I mean, I do understand the “wasted year” critique, but I’m not sure how often it really makes a difference.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 23, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah

He would only get injured if he switched to running back, AIRBHG’s cousin Angry Iowa Wide Receiver Hating God is too busy hanging out with DRUGS all the time to really get malevolent.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Mar 23, 2011 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

So that's what DJK was up to...
AIRBHG’s cousin Angry Iowa Wide Receiver Hating God is too busy hanging out with DRUGS all the time to really get malevolent

I think Ferentz owes DJK a big Thank You for taking the bullet for distracting AIWRHG

"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable

by ClaybornSmash on Mar 24, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it is tough to call him drastically underused.

He has just been stuck behind two or three veterans (DJK, Sandeman) or freak athletes (McNutt). Also, Iowa’s use of the TE has probably taken some balls away from Davis.

Let’s hope he is sick and tired of it, and ready to make the Big Ten (and Iowa State) pay dearly this year.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 23, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Second Coker link

THAT was the sound effect they chose?

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Mar 22, 2011 5:41 PM CDT reply actions  

No kidding.

I was expecting some awesome explosion noise. But no sir. Not even a little bit.

by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Mar 22, 2011 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Truer words have never been written:

the immortal Kyle McCann

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Mar 22, 2011 6:12 PM CDT reply actions  

I knew you would appreciate that.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 22, 2011 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

About Wienke

I believe he actually threw a pass or two in garbage time last season — according to Hawkeye Sports, he threw one pass against Iowa State that fell incomplete. Obviously that doesn’t really matter and it doesn’t add any significance to your story (the point still stands that he has no real game experience), just noticed that and seemed to remember him throwing one. Carry on..

by south_texas_hawk on Mar 22, 2011 6:23 PM CDT reply actions  

ESPN lied to me!

Damn their treacherous lies.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 22, 2011 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

You listened to ESPN?

/mutters something about “real media”
/smiles in Ross’s direction to hide the muttering

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 24, 2011 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

what about AJ?

he seems like the dark horse and probably wont see any time this season, but weirder things have happened and if one or both of the other two are a bust he could see some time

by justsomehawkeyefan on Mar 22, 2011 6:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought about mentioning him.

But these questions aren’t meant to be exhaustive breakdowns of the positions (that’s what Assume the Position is for later on). I agree that he could make some noise.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 22, 2011 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

It feels like Derby has already passed Weinke in the minds of many Hawkeye fans.

It’s sad really because Weinke came in as about as highly touted of a recruit as we’ve ever had at QB (other than JC6) and he may never get the opportunity to show what he can do on the field. In fact, the hope is that he never gets that shot because that will mean that Vandenberg is doing well and we’re winning games.

Still, I feel like Weinke has even lost the best part of being the backup QB which is having your name at the tip of most fans’ tongues in the event of a minor slip up by the starter. “Put in Tate, I mean Manson, I mean Christiansen, I mean Stanzi, I mean Vandenberg.” The next name in that great lineage should be Weinke but I’m afraid it’s going to be Derby, sad really.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt

by HawKCP on Mar 22, 2011 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

You say creativity from KOK.

I say deviation from our identity as a football team.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt

by HawKCP on Mar 23, 2011 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Offensive creativity is your goal, not ours.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 23, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, like Brad Banks level creativity

It may have been a decade ago, but KOK has shown that a QB with wheels behind a solid line will be given his rushing attempts.

by PackerHawk on Mar 23, 2011 5:17 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

It doesn't even have to be a fast-ish guy like Banks.

It seems like Nate Chandler was running it about one out of every 6 or 7 plays.

We really seem to let routes and plays develop more now. Our QBs don’t seem as quick to pull it down and run as often anymore.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 23, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nate Chandler had a better 40 time than Brad Banks.

Shiftiness is obviously an entirely different matter. I don’t think Nate Chandler gets the props he really deserves from Iowa fans. He was a pretty good quarterback and watching him truck guys the fuck over was a joy to watch.

There is my harping on Iowa fans for not being better Iowa fans rant of the day. You may proceed.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt

by HawKCP on Mar 23, 2011 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

HIPSTER ALERT

KCP was really into Chandler before he went mainstream and it was “cool” to like him!

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Mar 23, 2011 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I seem like a hipster?

I bet I would, HILLBILLY!

You heard me, WHITE TRASH!

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt

by HawKCP on Mar 23, 2011 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Um

Did you just develop the most weak-sauce version of tourettes ever?

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 24, 2011 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hate asking this question

but I will anyways.

If Derby were to change positions, would this be the year? Or are there just too many variables to get a true read on it right now

by IrishHawkeye7 on Mar 22, 2011 7:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Let's table that question until after spring practice.

We’ll know a lot more then.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 22, 2011 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

But I want to know which backup QB to adore NOW

I think it’s split between Derby and Rudock for the hearts and minds of those annoying fans with too much of the former and not enough of the latter.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Mar 22, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rudock is going to be the future, at some point.

You can’t go too wrong if you start hailing him, even if he doesn’t play until 2014.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 22, 2011 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Every new QB recruit is going to be the future.

with the strength of a grizzly, the reflexes of a puma, and the wisdom of a man.

by Kluginator on Mar 23, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Beutjer is the future!

Battles are won with a hammer, wars are won with a scalpel

by C.I.owA on Mar 23, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

That feutjer sucks.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 23, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

McCann?

I have to say, Beutjer is not usually the first guy I blame for offensive issues during the dark early years of Ferentz.

I blame Kevin Kasper, that kad. (joking)

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 23, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was thinking Banks.

Battles are won with a hammer, wars are won with a scalpel

by C.I.owA on Mar 23, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Banks was only in the Iowa program...

for the 2001 and 2002 seasons. Beutjer played for the Hawks in 2000, and not after, if memory serves.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 23, 2011 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Mar 23, 2011 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's Derby

Iowans can be pretty provincial that way.

by PackerHawk on Mar 23, 2011 5:18 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Those provincial Iowans preferred a Florida kid like Banks to a native Iowan like McCann.

I’m sure they’ll cheer for whoever is perceived as the new hotness.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Mar 23, 2011 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, I forgot fickle

Seriously though, several of the guys at the bar where I watched the Orange Bowl were already talking about how Derby should be ready to take over as a starter by the time Stanzi graduates. Then again, Shakespeare’s is about 4 blocks from City High, so it’s probably the heart of the pro-Derby faction out here on the east side of IC.

by PackerHawk on Mar 23, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I do remember a serious discussion..

From the group in the stands behind us about how this staff will never play a black quarterback since they are so racist..

by coltranemonk on Mar 23, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Three words: Iowa Hawkeye Shoe Polish.

It’s a little-known fact that Randy Duncan picked up a ton of speed with just a can of Kiwi.

/By the way, I apologize on behalf of all whites, to everyone, for the retardation that was blackface minstrel shows. The only one I’ve ever enjoyed was on that episode of Mad Men.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 23, 2011 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

So why post the pic?

It’s like putting lemon juice in your papercut.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Mar 23, 2011 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

True.

I tend to post too many pictures.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 23, 2011 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think he has an issue with this gif

It’s the one with the dancing bucket of chicken and dollar sign chain that appeared to upset him.

by The Mexican't on Mar 24, 2011 7:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, that's the bad one.

this one is just funny, in my opinion.

by BoilerHawk on Mar 25, 2011 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I know.

But I just saw him on the site for the first time in a while, so I thought I’d make a joke.

I failed.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 25, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

You know what's better than apologizing for minstrel shows?

NOT posting a joke and picture that relies on blackface.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Mar 23, 2011 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are correct.

/hangs head in shame, but will most likely do or post something nearly as dumb in the future.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 23, 2011 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Am I mistaken

Or was this exact staff in place when Brad Banks started? Last time I checked he was black and started the whole magical season.

"Sometimes the truth gets in the way of a good story" - KF

by The Bacon Explosion on Mar 23, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is clearly why Arvell Nelson left and McNutt was converted to WR

Because blacks aren’t allowed to be QBs, they belong at a different school or at RB or WR if they have speed.

/facepalm

by PackerHawk on Mar 24, 2011 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jason Manson played enough...

to prove that black guys can’t be effective QBs.

/yes, I’m joking.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 24, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm...

“The quarterback derby begins anew?”

WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY HERE, ROSS?


I'm giving up Lent for Science.

by Bucketochicken on Mar 22, 2011 7:19 PM CDT reply actions  

I have a good feeling about C-Fed this year

A big, athletic target that in Iowa’s system WILL be open in the flat more often than not will be very beneficial for a young QB. If Vandy or whoever can hit him, I expect a huge season from the Hat.

I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.

by Pain in the Sash on Mar 22, 2011 7:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Super-cute kid.


I'm giving up Lent for Science.

by Bucketochicken on Mar 22, 2011 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks Bucket

Love him to death. He’s a huge fan already!

i don't wife em...i one night em

by smokinthereiff on Mar 22, 2011 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

It always amazes me how much Reiff

looks identical (but bigger) to a friend of mine from law school. Also, McNutt looks about 7 feet tall in that picture.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Mar 22, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

McNutt does look pretty tall

which is weird because usually when I see him in person (I used to work in Coral Ridge Mall) I think that there is no way he’s 6’4. However, the worrisome thing about these photos is that it appears Coker has no stomach. Really, I think that’s the shortest torso I’ve ever seen, poor kid.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt

by HawKCP on Mar 22, 2011 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Umm, you do realize Coker is bending over

so he’s closer to the height of the woman in the picture, right?

by HawkgirlSTL on Mar 22, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd guess that the woman (Mrs. Smokinthereiff?) is probably around 5'3"-5'5"

Which is why every player is leaning in to some degree and are still towering over her.

by PackerHawk on Mar 23, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Phenomenal pics!

Your child may end up cherishing them!

by HawkeyeRecon on Mar 22, 2011 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great photo's!

In all my years following the hawks, they always stop for a photo or autograph. On Iowa!

"Hardcore will never die, but you will."

by LoganSq2DBQ on Mar 22, 2011 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Help me out, because I haven't really memorized some faces yet:

It’s Vandy, Coker, McNutt, K Davis?, Polish Hat?, Reiff, Ferentz, Zusevics. Right?

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 22, 2011 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Correct

The painting was a gift Todd, I'm taking it with me!

by smokinthereiff on Mar 22, 2011 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love the outfits!

One for the USA and one for the Hawkeyes. I think he was set until he grew out of those.

by BoilerHawk on Mar 23, 2011 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Reiff

Is just a monster. That dude needs to write Doyle a check someday (after he gets millions from the NFL)

Please note that the internet does not, as of yet, have a sarcasm font.

by benvious on Mar 24, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Apparently, Iowa has 4 new FBs on the roster.

Per HawkeyeReport

POSITION CHANGES
Scott Covert – now FB (was DL)
Jonathan Gimm – now FB (was TE)
Matt Meyers – now FB (was LB)
Cameron Olson – now FB (was LB)

by The Mexican't on Mar 23, 2011 4:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, Gimm's stone hands in last year's spring game/practice is what solidified him as a non-TE

so that might not be the way to go

though clearly he was good enough to be recruited as a TE, so I dunno.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 24, 2011 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm trying to remember if that was Gimm, or Griggs, or both.

It seems like we had about 20 TEs with a last name that started with G at that point.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Mar 24, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

3 of the 4

will be off the team by mid-way through spring practice. The 4th will have his leg broken in 7,258,183 places by AIRBHG.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Mar 23, 2011 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

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