POLL: Who Was The Best Team Beaten By Iowa During The Ferentz Era?
by RossWB on Feb 8, 2011 3:30 PM CST
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PrintThere was a comment by houksyndrome in the "Curious: Your greatest game attended, or just watched" thread about the 2003 Michigan team being the best team Iowa's beaten during Ferentz's tenure. Which got me thinking: which team is the best team Iowa's beaten since he's been here? There were eight teams that seemed like potential options.
So... which one was the best? I'm partial to either the 2003 Michigan team or the 2008 Penn State team, personally. The 2003 Michigan team finished with three losses (an early road loss to Oregon and a Rose Bowl loss to USC sandwiched their dramatic loss to Iowa), but they still finished with four wins over ranked teams, including lopsided wins over ranked Notre Dame (38-0), Purdue (31-3), and Ohio State (35-21) teams. On the other hand, the 2008 Penn State team had three wins over ranked teams and only some late-game magic from Messrs. Tyler Sash, Ricky Stanzi, and Daniel Murray kept them from playing in the national title game that year. Or do you prefer some other squad? Make with the voting.
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2008 Minnesota.
Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Feb 8, 2011 3:34 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Hey, I see what you did there.
But I won’t rec you on general principle. If you live that close to the Cities and you haven’t tried to rescue Floyd yet, then I must call your patriotism into question.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 8, 2011 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
He's a Gopher. His mission was successful.
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by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Feb 8, 2011 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
I did help rescue Floyd.
And I wasn’t one of the people on the field when Ferentz called the time out.
Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Feb 9, 2011 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
2008 Penn State definitely the best.
Upside: Win over a top 3 team.
Downside: Let Ohio State fans walk around with “co-champion” shirts. Wait, that’s kinda funny. You know, because they lost.
If Penn State had won, I think they actually would have won the mythical national title. OU and Florida were both much better matchups than USC.
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I think our fans would vote for PSU even if 2008 PSU wasn't clearly the best
Because we just like you so damn much.
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by The Bird Cult on Feb 8, 2011 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
Wha?!
No 9-3 Illinois Rose Bowl team?! :(
by mikjones24 on Feb 8, 2011 3:40 PM CST via mobile reply actions
No, because they were shit.
Aside from J Leman, of course.
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And what does that say about Ohio State?
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by ReadingRambler on Feb 8, 2011 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
My lasting memory from that game is Road Warrior: Hawk getting dragged forward for a crucial first down late in the game by Juice Williams. C’mon, Troy Johnson could have made that stop.
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by ReadingRambler on Feb 8, 2011 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
The Big Ten was shit in 2007.
(Conversely, the Big Ten was really, really good in 2003 — five teams won 9+ games. Of course, that was partially possible because three teams — Indiana, jNW, and holygod Illinois — were fucking awful.)
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It's hard for me to tell
if 2003 Penn State was the worst PSU team of the JoePa era, the Big Ten was just OMGNasty, or both. I lean toward both.
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That's a really great question.
When I read the title, I quickly clicked to a different tab to try and figure it out without seeing any options. The 4 that came to mind were 2008 Penn St, LSU, and I knew there was a good Michigan and a good Wisconsin team in there after 2002 and before 2006.
I ended up going w/ 08 Penn St mostly because they would have been in the national championship. Their convincing loss to USC though weakens it a bit.
I really think USC, given four or more weeks to prepare, would have punished Florida or Oklahoma.
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by ReadingRambler on Feb 8, 2011 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
The 2006 USC team would have crushed either Ohio State or Florida, too.
And the 2007 USC team probably would have beaten LSU or Ohio State.
They just couldn’t avoid embarrassing gaffes to the likes of Oregon State and UCLA.
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And that 2002 USC team would have whipped Miami or OSU by the end of the year, IMO.
Ceci n'est pas un blogue.
Yeah, that Orange Bowl should have been the mNC that year (but for stumbling).
Arguments could be (have been) made, but I think they were the two best teams that year.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 8, 2011 7:13 PM CST up reply actions
I wanted to vote for 08 PSU or 03 Michigan,
but they both got handled by USC in a bowl game.
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by WaterlooChazz on Feb 8, 2011 7:47 PM CST up reply actions
The state of Oregon totally pwnd Pete Carroll
I think he lost his last 4 trips to the Evergreen State? Good thing for him they don’t have an NFL team.
USC really did have at least 3 of the top 10 teams of the past decade.
They single-handedly did as much to hurt the B10’s reputation as all of the SEC together.
It's amazing that they got that good of a return on their inve$tment.
NFL teams aren’t nearly that lucky with 1st round picks.
Agreed, Adam
If we had a “plus 1” tournament in 2002 with USC, Iowa, Miami and Ohio State as the participants, I think USC wins the national title. They were rolling at the end of the year.
I voted LSU, because fuck them. Crazy-ass amount of NFL talent, even if they didn’t give 2 shits about playing Iowa.
For the irony of the hype
JaMarcus Russell, RS Freshman at the time, came in and rallied them to the lead. Last time he rallied anything.
Nick Saban was on a connecting flight from Orlando to Miami to start his historic turn-around of the Dolphins. Shoulda turned around and gone back to Red Stick.
But, the best thing of all, was Warren Holloway gets his first (and last) ever TD reception to win the game on the final play.
Cinderella game if ever there was one.
Not true.
JaMarcus Russell always rallies for a second round of partying with purple drinky-drank.
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by WaterlooChazz on Feb 8, 2011 7:48 PM CST up reply actions
Just because not everyone realizes how stacked they were.
Joseph Addai (1st Round 2006)
Dwayne Bowe (1st Round 2007)
Glenn Dorsey (1st Round, 5th Overall 2008)
Buster Davis (1st Round 2007)
Early Doucet (3rd Round 2008)
Skyler Green (4th Round 2006)
Jacob Hester (3rd Round 2008)
Ali Highsmith (Undrafted Free Agent 2008)
Chevis Jackson (3rd Round 2008)
LaRon Landry (1st Round, 6th Overall 2007)
Rudy Niswanger (Undrafted Free Agent, still active on Chiefs roster)
Jamarcus Russell (1st Round, 1st Overall 2007)
Marcus Spears (1st Round 2005)
Craig Steltz (4th Round 2008)
Claude Wroten (3rd Round 2006)
Granted not all of those guys were starters at the time but I probably missed a couple of really good players. Those are just the names that stuck out to me at first glance.
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I'm not sure Alley Broussard was ever drafted,
but he did run for 100+ yards in that CapOne Bowl.
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by WaterlooChazz on Feb 8, 2011 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
Wow, that makes me reconsider my Michigan '03 vote.
I still go with Michigan though, even though LSU had a lot more talent, Michigan had a very strong team that year. They got handled by USC but that just illustrates how awesome USC was back then. I just wish USC had gotten a crack at those SEC teams instead of beating up on the B10 every year and ruining our reputation.
I'm really surprised...
…that on an IOWA board, people are trying to make the point that a team with the most draftable talent was the best, regardless of record and how they played as a team…
Under Ferentz, Iowa's best teams have had lots of draftable talent.
Its a much better indicator than recruiting stars.
except for this year
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I figured everyone knew that most of the players from that team won a National Championship one year earlier.
And yes, a large amount of draftable talent is an incredibly good indicator of how good a team is. NFL teams draft based on collegiate production more than any other sport. That is to say, this group of players was incredibly productive during their tenures at LSU.
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Can you really count JaMarcus Russell?
He’s one of the biggest busts in NFL history, and was drafted by Al Davis, which means the pick should be completely discounted. That was a helluva talented team, though.
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maybe not counted as number one, but he was obviously going to be drafted, and probably in the top ten
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I would like to say "hello" to our lurker from From The Rumble Seat that voted for Georgia Tech.
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They were a good team but already had an early loss to 9-4 Miami and a late loss to 8-5 Georgia.
The funniest part about that loss to Georgia (who was 6-5 going into the game) was how a few weeks later when GT won the ACC, Georgia fans began proclaiming themselves the ACC Champs!
Wait, now someone else voted for them.
Strange. I only included them because I was trying to inclusive and include all top ten (or top ten-ish) teams that Iowa’s beaten under KF. I didn’t expect them to get votes.
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But they were coached by a mad genius
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ps - I chose other
see Outback bowl below
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
Mike Leach?
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Feb 8, 2011 5:42 PM CST up reply actions
Okay, once could have been a mistake but six?
It is on six now. Something is up. The lurker must have invited friends.
2003 Miami (OH)
Didn’t they finish in the Top 10? That team scored 3 points against us and then annihilated everyone else on their schedule.
by Terry Strauss on Feb 9, 2011 12:07 AM CST up reply actions
12th in the Coaches Poll (10th in the AP).
They also played in the MAC, which is why I ignored them.
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Makes sense
Although I think they beat 2 teams on that list pretty handily (2004 Wisconsin and 2010 Michigan State)
by Terry Strauss on Feb 9, 2011 12:26 AM CST up reply actions
As I've said before, that win for Iowa has given Pittsburgh two Super Bowls.
If Miami (OH) wins and Roethlisberger doesn’t throw three INT’s, they finish Top 5 or 6, he gets serious Heisman hype and no way he falls to 11. They would have been stuck with Losman or had to get lucky with Schaub. That was a horrible, horrible year for QB’s after Manning, Rivers and Roethlisberger (and Shaub in the 3rd).
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
This is my favorite win
Just because the overhyped gimmick that was GTs offense. And every time they showed Norm it just looked like he was unimpressed. Kinda like a “What the fuck is this? They thought this would work?” That may have been the most lopsided 10 point loss I have ever seen.
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by Pain in the Sash on Feb 8, 2011 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
Lurker
Not a lurker on BHGP but it was me that did the first vote for GT because I was a lurker on FTRS for a few week before the game and I remember how devistated and shocked they were.
And it was also a great game.
There is a very fine line between sports fan and mental illness.
The obvious answer is LSU
because everybody knows that any ESSSS EEEEEE CCCCCCC team of any year is better than any B1G team of any year.
by DrHenryKillinger on Feb 8, 2011 4:03 PM CST reply actions
The great thing about the GT win...
…was that the multiple GT fans we spoke with in Miami before the game, while friendly and polite, were absolutely CONVINCED of their their superiority and that a win over Iowa was all but a formality. They truly believed their version of the triple option was unstoppable and that Paul Johnson (whom they insisted be referred to as COACH Paul Johnson) was the greatest genius in the history of college football. It was really something.
Because the Gulfstream 5 has neither the airspeed nor the specs to adequately describe how fly I feel.
identical to my experience ij miami
Plus they were fucking awful tailgaters and (it would seem to a more polite/northern person) severely outnumbered to be so arrogant
I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.
by sailorjerry on Feb 9, 2011 9:06 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
My favorite pre-game stories..
My wife and a friend went to stand in line for the port-o-johns in the parking lot before the game and were behind a female GT fan. All the college age girls we saw (including said girl in line) were in jeans, Uggs, and generally just dressed like they were going to the bar (aka slutty).
Our friend asked “So why are you all dressed up for a football game?” The response was as snyde as it gets with “Because we have class.” First, if you have to say you have class – you don’t. Second – dressing up for a FB game has no direct correllation to class, especially when you are flying Confederate flags and are among the most arrogant of fans as I’ve ever met.
I also ran into a GT fan that flat out asked “So do you really think you guys have a chance?” To which I responded “Nope, just flew 1500 miles to enjoy the ‘warm’ weather and see Iowa get a good ol’ fasion butt-whooping.”
I could have written this. Ditto the experience.
Some Iowans in our section sold one of their tickets to a lone GT fan. There he was, plopped down among the Hawkeye faithful. Did this deter him from talking trash and acting like our guys had not a chance? Hardly. Needless to say, he left at the end of the third quarter. I felt bad, though, because I think he really would have enjoyed singing about beer.
Wait, wait
Are you sure you weren’t in Ann Arbor when this happened—except for the Confederate flags, of course—because it sounds like a post from MaizenBrew before a UM football game or after another UM football loss.
2002 Ohio State
If only we could have played them.
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Feb 8, 2011 4:05 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Had to go with 03 Michigan
due to the insane amount of talent that they had. 08 PSU is definitely my #2
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I initally selected '03 Michigan.
But chose ‘08 PSU in the end. It’s tough to imagine that PSU team being denied a berth in the national championship game if they escape Iowa City with a win, and that’s enough to get my vote.
Okay, how about "Which is the weakest team on that list?"
I would assume 2010 Mich St although I can’t remember much about that 04 Wisky team. That wasn’t the year we beat them at Madison at Alvarez’s last home game was it? I think that was the next year.
You're thinking of the 2005 Wisco game when we beat them on Barry Alvarez Day.
2004 was the Wisco team that started out red-hot (9-0) and then completely melted down. They got blasted 49-14 by an iffy MSU team, then throttled 30-7 by Iowa. Amazingly, had they won either of those games they would have gone to the Rose Bowl (and promptly gotten drilled by Vince Young and Texas, most likely).
But, yes, I’d still say the ’10 MSU team was the weakest of the bunch. They were rather lucky to get to 11-1 and the fact that two of the three best teams they played absolutely eviscerated them (Iowa, Bama) does not make them look very good.
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My pick is
the 06 Outback bowl win over Florida
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Some statistical support
I was curious so I looked up the Sagarin rankings for these teams at the end of the year:
2002 Michigan #18
2003 Michigan #5
2004 Wisconsin #34
2004 LSU #24
2008 Penn State #5
2009 GT #12
2010 MSU #46
And there was one team not listed that should have gotten a nod: 2002 Penn State, ranked #9 that year in Sagarin.
I voted for 2003 Michigan, because that team was pretty stacked on offense — Braylon Edwards, Chris Perry, Steve Breaston, Jason Avant — plus LaMarr Woodley and Marlin Jackson on defense. That’s a lot of guys who wound up as pros.
Interesting info worth considering. It looks like you used the Predictor rating instead of the Composite.
For anyone interested in seeing that data:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt02.htm
That is for 2002, just change the number at the end of the URL to see the different years.
Interesting.
I overlooked that 2002 PSU squad because they ended up with four losses, but they were good.
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2002 PSU was the best 4 loss team in CFB history, and arguably would be the best 3 loss team
3 regular season losses by a combined 6 points in regulation, and the only loss in regulation, on the road to eventual MNChampion OSU, was only due to an atrocious pass interference no-call
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What are you talking about? It's totally ok for DBs to tackle Bryant Johnson while the ball's in the air.
In all seriousness, I stopped caring about that team after their excellent “performance” against Auburn in the bowl game.
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by ReadingRambler on Feb 8, 2011 9:25 PM CST up reply actions
I went with LSU
To me, this was the first year I can remember hearing about how hyped the SEC was. Sure, there had always been Florida, Tennesse, etc but it seemed like almost any team that went up against the SEC in bowl season was automatic underdogs. This really had a David v Goliath feel (especially with our 5’10 pass happy QB). I’m not picking LSU because of the ending but just the fact that it didn’t feel like we were given a chance in hell.
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by Pain in the Sash on Feb 8, 2011 5:10 PM CST reply actions
Kind of
I know it was technically theirs but it was kind of a joke. But that’s the BCS for ya. Just curious, who won the SEC in 2005? Was it Florida?
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by Pain in the Sash on Feb 8, 2011 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
No, Florida played us in the Outback Bowl we don't talk about.
I believe Georgia won the SEC.
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Shit.
I meant our Cap One year.
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by Pain in the Sash on Feb 8, 2011 5:22 PM CST up reply actions
Well, that was also the Iowa team that won nine games with no running game and a sophomore QB.
There were understandable reasons to pick against them.
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I'm not saying there wasn't
It was just incredible to see the little guys fight like that.
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by Pain in the Sash on Feb 8, 2011 5:22 PM CST up reply actions
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by Run Up The Score on Feb 8, 2011 6:43 PM CST reply actions 10 recs
That .gif is the best thing I've seen all day.
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That's a whole lot of Arrested Development pouting.
by The Mexican't on Feb 8, 2011 7:18 PM CST up reply actions
one of my favorite episodes
Unfortunately you can’t hear the Charlie Brown music playing while they walk. You can see Snoopy on his doghouse behind George Micheal.
How does this only have 6 rec's?
Arrested Development FTW
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by ClaybornSmash on Feb 9, 2011 8:38 AM CST up reply actions
2008 Penn State
but 2004 Wisconsin is a sorta close second. That team was the best team in the country until they inexplicably flamed out at the end of the year.
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Ah, talk about great memories.
Some Wisconsin DE knocks out both Mills and Robinson, leaving Chris Ganter as PSU’s remaining QB. Wisconsin spends the rest of the game handing off to Matt “The Hebrew Hammer” Bernstein. Gah.
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by ReadingRambler on Feb 8, 2011 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
I actually remember being at a party
and being in a discussion with some dudes about who was the best Jewish skilled guy in the Big Ten, Rubin or Bernstein.
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Honestly, I can't decide which win was best.
So I’ll say Ferentz’s win in Super Bowl XXXIX was the best.
/Brewster’d
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I'm torn between psu '08 and lsu '05
Honestly it’s a toss-up for me but because I was there, under-dressed and nearly in tears, I am going with psu ’08. It was the foundation for everything we accomplished in ’09 and probably had the bigger impact on the program, all things considered.
by bornofclay on Feb 8, 2011 8:29 PM CST via mobile reply actions
08 penn state
Granted the game was played in Ia City where as the Capital One win (IMO the second best win) was at a neutral field. Yes that Penn State team ended up losing to USC but that USC team couldve easily beaten either team in the National title that year. 08 State didnt have some of the future NFL talent that the LSU team did, but they played together, were well coached, and beat some damn good teams that year.
'03 Michigan was the most talented
But ’08 Penn State was the best team.
Jack Trice Stadium - Easily one of the Top 10 Stadiums in Central Iowa
Not discounting '04 LSU's roster
But most of those guys hadn’t fully developed yet.
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by Not Marv Cook on Feb 8, 2011 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
Um...
Both got clocked by USC in the Rose Bowl.
I literally don’t know what that comment was supposed to mean.
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by Not Marv Cook on Feb 9, 2011 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
I voted Penn St. in 08
just because it was so unexpected, and the way State dominated us in the first half, start of the second half. I guess a clue would have been the defensive stops we made; but the ending has a special place in Hawkeye lore.
Georgia Tech's record was 11-3, not 10-3
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by Dip-Shit on Feb 9, 2011 6:56 AM CST via mobile reply actions
My first instinct was to vote for LSU
because they were a highly lauded SEC team, had a ruthless coach, and had a ton of NFL talent.
However, when I looked at that list above with the players drafted, I realized that only one of them was drafted in April of 2005, the year we played them in Capitol One Bowl. That seemed like a pretty youthful, talented team. But at the time we played LSU, they were lacking experience, which has to be considered in determining the best team.
Also, that LSU team lost three games, two of which were at #15 Auburn (close) and at #3 Georgia (blowout). They had no signature wins IMO (the win at #12 Florida is not as shiny because A) they went 7-5, and B) they were coached by the Zooker).
I voted for 2008 PSU. Two losses to LSU’s three, Their worst loss was at an underachieving Iowa team (worst only because they weren’t ranked) the other loss was to USC, a NC contender in a playoff format. All but one of their victories were by double digits (at OSU, impressive win no matter the margin).
I would not vote for this team over half the options provided, but this season’s edition of Missouri was a good team with only two losses when we played them (ranked #12, right?). They would have been good to include just for the sake of generating discussion. Lost two road games in conference (at on-fire-at-the-time Nebraska and at Texas Tech), and beat A & M and Oklahoma. But, they also played in the Big 12 North, which had two terrible teams in KU and CU, along with two middling teams in KSU and ISU.
Missouri was certainly one of the better bowl opponents
2006 Florida had the talent but didn’t have it all going in Urban’s first year. Mizzou was probably the best bowl team we played, and also beat, since LSU, and probably third overall in bowl opponents Kirk has coached against, after USC and LSU. 2004 Florida was a good team but simply assumed they would win. That one, come to think of it, is another “favorite” victory.
Don Nordmann, we hardly knew ye
Georgia Tech was better
Also 2009 ACC > 2010 Big 12 (forget North, the whole league)
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by Not Marv Cook on Feb 9, 2011 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
I sure wish there was an OSU team listed on there.
I fucking hate those fucking fuckers.
It's so sad how a family can be torn apart by something as simple as a pack of wild dogs.
by FiveSecondRuleChef on Feb 9, 2011 11:40 AM CST reply actions
OSU does NOT exist.
They are a figment of our imagination!
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OSU is but a mere Leader
while the Hawkeyes are, wait for it, Legends.
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
by Kluginator on Feb 9, 2011 5:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
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by BentNotBroken on Feb 9, 2011 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
Jesus Christ, let it go already.
I’d rather be on Valtrex than have to see this topic on a regular basis.
And by winner of the poll you mean?
I’m still confused what you’re getting at.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 10, 2011 5:07 PM CST up reply actions
I'll use a parable, but not one Jesus would tell. I call it "2008: Don't Pleasure Yourself to This".
Little Iowa Ike and little Penn State Pete grew up in the same neighborhood, played the same sports, went to the same school, and were best friends. They respected each other’s achievements in school, never wanted to ask the same girl to the dance, and always behaved in front of each other’s parents.
In 2008, during their senior year of high school, Pete took high school sweetheart and the most beautiful girl in the school to the prom, Crystal Football. Pete hadn’t yet sealed the deal, but he was quite confident that night would be the night. Ike’s date, who for most of her life wore a brace due to scoliosis, was the less attractive Ollvia Outback. After the prom, Ike, Pete, and their dates all went to the party together at Kenny Kinnick’s house. Pete didn’t like Kenny very much, mostly because his parties got out of hand and ended with broken windows, missing wallets, and girls harboring regretful secrets. Nevertheless, Pete went because that was where the it party was.
As always, Pete decided to drink in extreme moderation—conservatively, you might say. Meanwhile, Ike, Crystal, and Ollvia were pounding Michelob Ultras, dancing to a CD of patriotic hymns, completely oblivious to Pete’s presence. Despite not being on his game, but seeing Crystal in the state she was, with a fist pump, Pete knew it was time to seal the deal. To calm his nerves, he went into the basement to shotgun a Colt 45.
When Pete came back up stairs, none of Ike, Crystal, or Olivia were to be found. His focused confusion was broken by the sound of a window breaking. As he made his way down the hallway and peered into Kenny’s brother’s room, he saw it: there was that piece of shit Ike, railing Crystal from behind as Springsteen’s Born in the U.S.A. blared. He couldn’t believe it. Heartbroken, he shut the door and wandered off back downstairs to the cooler of Colts.
Having lost his sweetheart, Crystal, he drank. And drank. And drank some more. Somehow, that wildly attractive, if not always showered, pothead Rose Bowl asked him what was wrong. He told her. She felt so badly for him she offered to give him an old fashioned. Pete, with a twinkle in his eye, remembered what his grandfather had always told him: “Success without honor is an unseasoned dish. Polish the chrome or go home.”
He and Rose proceeded to Ike’s parent’s room—and what a room it was. You might call it the granddaddy of all rooms in the house. Pete sat on the bed, excited for what was to happen—and what he might do. Right as Rose went to unzip Pete’s trousers, Rose’s ex-boyfriend, Troy Janikowski, kicked in the door. Troy, who had just listened to a Snoop track in which Will Ferrell adds guest vocals, was inspired with the confidence to get back the girl he lost. He grabbed Pete by the belt and threw him into the bathroom. Rose, always the sucker for Troy’s brash ways and flashy style, gave up every inch of her turf to him.
What of Olivia, you ask? Well, Olivia, being the skank that she was, spent the whole time hiding in the closet, watching Ike do his thing. She was so impressed with Ike’s strokin’ that as soon as Crystal left the room (and the party, for as she sobered up, she realized that neither Ike nor Pete were deserving of her), Olivia begged for Ike and wouldn’t take no for an answer. Ike’s no dummy, of course, and he hit that like he was dropping bombs on Fort Sumter.
And Pete? Pete spent the rest of the night in the bathroom, pleasuring himself to what might have been. He and Crystal haven’t spoken since then. He and Ike are still friends, but every time they meet, all Ike has to do is wink and Pete knows exactly why.
The lesson of this parable? Up yours, Iowa. But we still are friends.
by MainLion on Feb 10, 2011 6:01 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Pete should remember
that Ike had a bigger Dick (Stanzi) and in the end, that is all that matters. Just ask SEG
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by ReadingRambler on Feb 10, 2011 7:52 PM CST up reply actions
I had to rec it just because.
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Feb 10, 2011 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
Holy Schnikes
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 11, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
If you let Jesus hang on a little longer
I am sure he could clear that herpes problem right up.
No one ever expects herpes.
"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands
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