Everything That Is Right About Hawkeye Hoops
by SallyMason on Feb 7, 2011 3:39 PM CST
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(Well this should certainly be bumped. Great win, great moment of celebration. -- Ross)
We were all pretty excited about the Indiana win, and rightly so. It was a helluva game to watch. But I think it finally showed us Fran is the man, no doubt about it. His heart, tenacity, and winning mentality shows in his team. This short clip from the locker room, especially, shows me that. The players love Fran, Fran loves the players, and it's pretty damn sweet to see him jumping around with them after a big win.
Iowa BB celebration.mp4 (via deanvogs)
Go Hawks!
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Anything that immediately makes me teary eyed
Has to get a rec.
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by Pain in the Sash on Feb 7, 2011 3:41 PM CST reply actions 6 recs
It really did bring tears.
I had to watch it three times. I am so happy for those boys. They have really made HUGE strides this season.
Word.
And your rec gets a rec.
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by Bucketochicken on Feb 7, 2011 6:13 PM CST up reply actions
Ditto
But I won’t start a “your rec of the rec gets a rec” thing
by PackerHawk on Feb 7, 2011 11:23 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Anything?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Feb 8, 2011 8:47 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
I'm now immune to the tears. Just chew gum.
Bwahahahahahaha
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 8, 2011 9:39 AM CST up reply actions
Well I guess I have to rec it.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
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by Pain in the Sash on Feb 8, 2011 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
this is my favorie crying moment
when the bus haluska’ parents were coming to the game on got caught in a blizzard
and the coolest alford ever was
long live the pellican whore
I don't intend to upset folks with the way I write it just happens,,,
All I see is a big red X standing next to Haluska
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Feb 8, 2011 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
Nice hand position, Alford!
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by ReadingRambler on Feb 9, 2011 9:22 AM CST up reply actions
He's like a dyslexic Mola Ram.
"....All drugs should be legal. War is wrong. The rich get richer. The poor get poorer. Thank you. I'll be here all week." ~ Bill Hicks
by Bucketochicken on Feb 9, 2011 9:50 AM CST up reply actions
"Tayna doesn't let me do this"
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 9, 2011 9:53 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Did anyone else have this issue?
When Stanzi ran to greet his family during Senior Day, the sun shone brightly upon his golden-brown locks and I started bawling.
Death to Ohio, man.
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by ReadingRambler on Feb 8, 2011 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
You had me at "Death to Ohio."
Actually, just to OSU.
OhioHawk is cool, and I’ve enjoyed my visits to Dayton, Cleveland, and Cincy.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 10, 2011 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
Fran chest-bumping Brommer is one of the greatest things ever.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
It's a start
And it’s definitely much-appreciated.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Brommer was actually called for a foul on that.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 7, 2011 4:54 PM CST up reply actions 12 recs
Winner
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Feb 7, 2011 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
You beat me to it you bastard!
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by Bucketochicken on Feb 7, 2011 6:13 PM CST up reply actions
Is that Ryan Bowen jumping around also?
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
Sure looked like it.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 7, 2011 4:54 PM CST up reply actions
Yep. Funny, the video coordinator sits directly behind the bench during games.
One wouldn’t think that, but you know….
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Awesome
That is some fantastic awkward white man jumping. In all seriousness, though, I’m very happy for those guys.
Big grin on my face.
Man, it feels so good to be excited about Iowa basketball again. Before I learned about football & baseball, Iowa basketball was my first sports love. Two years from now I expect to be on this board talking about Tournament seeding. Go Hawks!
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
Competitors don't mind getting yelled at
if the coach is there to celebrate the things they do well.
Can't help but smile after watching that
There are a lot of ups and downs to come for this team, but I think its going to start to turning into many more ups than downs in the near future.
This optimism thing is a great feeling.
That's awesome.
I feel like I might need to remind people that I do, in fact, love Iowa basketball and anyone who loves Iowa basketball can’t help but love that clip.
Please don’t get blown out by Wisconsin. Please don’t get blown out by Wisconsin. Please don’t get blown out by Wisconsin.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
This is a great recruiting video, folks
You want to play for a coach that gets excited like that. I sure as hell would!
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
As much fun as I make about that
I did get choked up the first time I saw that. I’m a sucker for inspirational sports things. Which gives me an idea for a new “curious” thread.
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by Pain in the Sash on Feb 7, 2011 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
Thank you Fran
for once again proving to the world that white guys got no groove.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
I am not sure but I think
the video above shows us what Fran’s swagger looks like and it is like looking into the face of God.
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
You see stuff like this
and you just KNOW this team is eventually going to contend one day. stuff like this makes me wish i could watch the games in person
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 7, 2011 6:44 PM CST reply actions
That video is incredible
I was already a Franfan. He had me from the press conference when he accepted the job, but when your coach is jumping around like a kid in the locker room after a win like that, you just have to love that. My favorite was the failed chest bump to Cole towards the end. Awesome.
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Feb 7, 2011 7:33 PM CST reply actions
I beleive
and this has nothing to do with every drop
of rain that falls
this is the sort of celebration that
is in order for hardy franledlads
an not that differentiated although less organized
then the hokey pokey
a tradition for the other sports
long live the pellican whore
I don't intend to upset folks with the way I write it just happens,,,
You had a beautiful poem going for the first three lines there.
"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."
by SomeJerkPoster on Feb 7, 2011 11:28 PM CST up reply actions
Like the dad from Teen Wolf, the movie,
Fran’s look, well it wasn’t so groovy,
but the seeds he did sow,
two big wins in a row,
and that video surely will move ye
Did you know the word “wolf” has no rhymes, just like the word orange?
by DrHenryKillinger on Feb 8, 2011 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
I love the Franimal.
Dude has given Iowa basketball a lot of hope. We’ve got a talented group of young guys, and nothin but brighter futures ahead. This season may be a wash, but we at least have hope and excitement.
Fact: All you care about is points.
Blindly Optimistic follower of The Iowa Hawkeyes, San Francisco 49ers, Carolina Hurricanes, and the Charlotte Bobcats.
The write up doesn't need to stand out
when the video already does. Sometimes its better to not say anything.
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Feb 8, 2011 8:38 AM CST up reply actions
Go Hawks!!
Here’s to many more giddy, happy times!
by George Un-Raveling on Feb 7, 2011 9:24 PM CST reply actions
Awesome vid
This is required viewing for future recruits.
Anyone else drunk as fuck on the Fran koolaid?
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
ohhhh yes
did you clean your pants with windex?
i can practically see myself in them.
and that's another Hawkeye first down... EHAWW!!
Wow Soup...
…I’m not sure that’s really what Nick had in mind. Um…
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 7, 2011 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
I'm gonna invent Fran koolaid
Because it sounds delicious. And I’ve been practicing with, no joke, my airband for the last 3 hours. But there is 1K up for top band so it’s not as lame as it sounds.
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by Pain in the Sash on Feb 7, 2011 11:45 PM CST up reply actions
Kirk Speraw FTW!
The real gold of that video is Speraw chest-bumping everyon right behind the Franimal.
I believe this video gives us a taste of what is yet to come
from a sport we have mourned for many years and left for dead since the late 90’s. You can feel a sense of closure of the old and a rebirth of the new. Still in its infancy, you can see the symbolic passing of the torch and the awakening of a sleeping giant.
Fee Fi Fo Fum, I smell the rebirth of a basketball program!
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
If he gets this excited over a road win at Indiana
Imagine how awesome it’ll be when he gets us to a Final Four…
Somebody check me, I think I’m getting MAD!
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 7, 2011 10:25 PM CST reply actions
Said it before.
I REALLY wanted Fran as the next PSU coach. Don’t know how much time he’ll eventually get out there, but he’s a damn good basketball coach.
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by Run Up The Score on Feb 8, 2011 5:48 AM CST reply actions
Historically, Big Ten coaches don't go to other conferences unless they failed on a certain level in the Big Ten
although, Iowa is one historic exception as Lute Olsen left for Arizona and George Raveling left for USC. Alford took a small step down, although he would never admit that playing Air Force & Colorado St. as conference foes is inferior to playing Illinois and Wisconsin.
There just are not a lot of great jobs out there in college basketball that can just walk in and cherry pick Fran out of Iowa City. I would guess one might be Notre Dame and two others might be Villanova, Pitt and those kinds of programs. But if he figures it out here and makes himself a hot commodity I would expect he would double his salary, have kids in high school and be a state hero.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I agree your last sentence
KF went through that same process. He was greeted by a frustrated fan base because he wasn’t Bob Stoops. He kept his head down and got to work. Started to win a couple of games and compete in others. Then the hard work turned into success and he became a hero.
I think Fran has an easier job with the fans because we want to be basketball fans, its just been a rough decade. The only thing that worries me is the “fishbowl.” KF has seen the full effect of it in recent months. I obviously don’t know Fran beyond the press conferences and videos like the one above, but not very many people love being under that kind of scrutiny ALL THE TIME. This is professional sports to Iowans. We have nothing else to follow.
But to your point, how many of the “big-time” programs get less scrutiny than IC. I would guess not many. So my point might be for naught.
by 6 seconds of hell on Feb 8, 2011 7:34 AM CST up reply actions
Outside of UCLA, Kentucky, etc.
basketball is a tamer lifestyle, coaching-wise, than football. I would think Fran stepped into a perfect situation. He succeeding Lickliter, not Hayden Fry. Long. long leash at this point. though I don’t think he will need it.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I don't think basketball coaching is much tamer.
the season is still 5 to 6 months long. Even close road trips are a grind. And I have to think that recruiting still takes its toll.
The football team usually still gets more spotlight, but there is still plenty for the basketball coach, especially from mid-January and forward.
While I hope and think Fran is skilled enough to make it somewhat positive or at least somewhat neutral for him, the spotlight of Iowa has really seemed to wear on our last few coaches: (Lick nearly let the stress kill him, Redacted had the infidelity rumors and the Pierce backlash, Davis was under-appreciated out of his job, Raveling couldn’t get in tune with the culture here or vice versa, and Olson left).
Like I said, I think Fran may be one of our more skilled coaches in knowing how to get along with and “use” the media. But, if they ever turn on him, or if they ever get overbearing on his family, it will be a travesty. And then, I could see him jumping to a similar or better program. I wonder how much of a chance he had at the St. John’s job (even though it is an over-rated job)? If he had a legit shot at that, and chose Iowa instead, then I’d say that bodes well for us keeping him at Iowa.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 10, 2011 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure I agree
with the whole basketball is a tamer lifestyle. There are few players to manage but also fewer coaches with which to manage them. Also your playing over 2 times more games that have to be scouted and prepared for. Football you have a week to get ready.. always. Basketball is sometimes less than 24 hour turn around to prepare for an opponent.
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Feb 11, 2011 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
i think
there is a maryland coach
who used to
do his thing in columbus
a long long time ago
apologies to the chevy on the levy
and end up
being in the hall,,,,
long live the pellican whore
I don't intend to upset folks with the way I write it just happens,,,
and whilst i forget
there is a balm in lawrence
a jayhawk to be sure
that did pretty well in bubbly aka champaign
in my
humble opinion the B1G is more like a club
SEC, ACC, BiGEAST and few tours of duty
like lawrence or ucla are way better gigs for your ego
but a regular paycheck and mediocre seasons
in the league that plays
five man indoor football with rings at
the end
even if you dont make the dance they love you at jNW
or JoePa’s winter cover has what won the NIT once?
there are way better jobs than B1G but nowhere
quite as comfy with losing
not being the end of the world as we know it
I don't intend to upset folks with the way I write it just happens,,,
Great points, OH.
While your examples are excellent, I’d just like to say that I’m not sure an OSU to Maryland move back then was a huge step up. Illinois to KU is a step up.
Outside of jNW and PSU, I’m not sure the Big Ten is more comfortable with losing in basketball, but many do give you a year or three (rather than a game or three in the ACC or the elite programs) to prove yourself.
Really, if I was a jNW alum, I’d be kind of embarrassed by how little they expect from basketball. I know they can’t expect an NCAA tourney every other year, but to never have made it?
I think PSU’s issue may be apathy about basketball. When I watched Iowa at PSU a week or two ago, it was kind of refreshing to see an Iowa game where the opponent had what appeared to be way less fans than we get at Carver.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 10, 2011 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
bwhahaha
Penn State will NEVER have a “next” head coach, naive fool!
Parkhill coaching tree forever!
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by ReadingRambler on Feb 8, 2011 7:42 AM CST up reply actions
Wait, Paterno isn't the basketball coach, too?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 8, 2011 2:00 PM CST up reply actions
stanzi proved
this was unamerican
kate smith in all bravado
long live the pellican whore
I don't intend to upset folks with the way I write it just happens,,,
You and I both wish.
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by ReadingRambler on Feb 9, 2011 9:23 AM CST up reply actions
Fran began his head coaching career in his late 20s and has walked the sidelines for 14 years
at schools that are NCAA tournament afterthoughts, at three schools that collectively spend less on basketball than Iowa so you KNOW he’s having the time of his life having nearly every game televised, even nationally on ESPN, playing games in a 15K+ seat arena that even when poorly attended has far has more fans than any of his former multi-use gyms ever had even if packed to the gills, an office he doesn’t share with the swim coach, a video coordinator who played in the NBA for years and so forth. I’m sure he feels like he’s hit the jackpot. This is no spoiled coach. He probably thinks his cup overfloweth with resources and now he’s winning games against teams that are basketball royalty (current and historic) and he’s barely begun the rebuilding process.
I totally believe in the dude.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
by StoopsMyAss on Feb 8, 2011 6:37 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Great comment.
I hope you are right.
Rec’d.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 10, 2011 10:45 PM CST up reply actions
Did we just see the video of "the moment?"
Is this going to be looked at in 2-4 years as the moment the return worked started to pay off and Fran is truly the man?
Last night on BTN some show was talking about how no team wants to go to Iowa City right now to play. The point was made that tOSU was the cream of the conference but there just isn’t that much difference between 2 and 11.
Very promising signs.
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by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 8, 2011 7:25 AM CST reply actions
I think that is a very good point...
part of the return to prominence is managing your home court, playing tough teams tough, being dangerous in other words. I think Iowa is as dangerous as they have been in four years…we had some nice wins in the past three/four years but the perception was those were surprise attacks. Now I think teams realize they have to bring it to Iowa City and I think you will see less and less of the “that was a surprise” analysis when Iowa wins a game many think they should not.
I think the next step is to get a win in the opening round game of the B1G tourney.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Yep.
I think the next step is to get a win in the opening round game of the B1G tourney.
This. Absolutely this. I mean, obviously a single BTT win is not the height of my ambition, but before we can run we have to learn how to walk, or some such cliche. We haven’t won a BTT game in (I believe) at least four years and recently we’ve been absolutely massacred in those games, despite not playing high-level competition.
I’m also very curious to see if we can steal one of the home games this week against Wisco and Minny.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I think Minny is ripe for the taking.
Also, could Wisky be looking ahead to their match up this weekend with OSU? Not holding my breath for a sweep, but we’ll take one of these games this week.
Minny definitely looks vulnerable.
But I’m leery of the matchups inside and of Hoffarber going off like so many three-point shooters have done against us.
I agree that Wisco could be looking ahead to their big OSU game (they actually still have a shot at the Big Ten title if they can beat OSU twice and get someone else to knock off the Buckeyes too), although I’m sure our two-game winning streak will help them be wary of us.
But we are at home and we’re coming off the two best games we’ve played back-to-back, which is encouraging. I believe we can get one of them.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yeah, I think Minny is a bad match-up for us
unless we play lights out from the FT line and 3-point line, I can’t see us beating them. They could fall apart, but I don’t like the match-up. As for Wisconsin, I love that match-up. They are more solid and will not beat themselves, but we can guard them and play them. Of course, we need to grow even more to win games like these. This isn’t Indiana, these are tournaments teams beginning their stretch drives. A win in either is a clear sign of progress…major progress…in-season progress. Big stuff.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Minnesota is in a tailspin right now
Yes, they have 3 bigs, but aside from Mbakwe, their bigs are no more talented than Brommer. Hoffarber can’t be the surprise shooter from the arc when he’s stuck trying to be a point guard.
We HAVE to beat Minnesota at home. In my eyes, and given the direction/momentum the two teams have, that would be a let-down loss.
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Feb 8, 2011 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, you said it better than me.
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by ReadingRambler on Feb 8, 2011 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
In MN's plastering by tOSU
tOSU had 22 offensive rebounds, Minny had 24 defensive rebounds. I know they have three big guys but they haven’t been playing very big. When OSU puts up a shot it should be much better than a 52% proposition the defense comes away with misses even with the studs OSU has.
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by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 8, 2011 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
I actually think we could beat Minny.
We played them well (in the 2nd half, anyway) at their place. They looked really sloppy against OSU and Indiana recently. I think they were a bit overrated and are starting to come down. Hoff going off from 3 is a big concern though and our defense will have to be up to the task.
I dunno, man.
Minnesota seems to fall apart every year. From what I’ve seen, unless things have changed, Hoffarber will have a more difficult time going crazy since he has to manage the offense (Their other PGs are either with another school or injured). On the other hand, I think Leuer and Taylor are both more dynamic than Minnesota’s guys.
Of course, Penn State did beat Wisconsin, so maybe they’re crap. Who knows? Conference play is weird.
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by ReadingRambler on Feb 8, 2011 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
I’ll be surprised if Wisconsin doesn’t beat Ohio State at least once. Purdue will probably get one too (They’re not actually that much worse than Ohio State, it was fairly obvious (to me at least) that they were playing scared for some reason).
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by ReadingRambler on Feb 8, 2011 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
To continue Ross’ analogy, they were laying there like blobs, now learning to roll over. Will learn to crawl, stand up, walk, run. This gives indications of going the right direction, and it’s good to be mad again, because at least I care. I have no illusions about the difficulty of the task ahead. On one hand, we’re not tOSU. On the other, Fran isn’t going to get the one and done guys for some time, so he can build a team. The public signs we see point to his guys liking him, and he liking his guys. That, and that they are (mostly) watchable, are remarkable in year 1.
The elder statesmen on our team
need to relearn how to win and how to hate losing with a passion. I think the new guys are still fresh from winning HS programs but Gatens, Cole and Brommer have grown accustomed to losing. That is a tough one to unlearn sometimes.
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
Fun Basketball
I love the job Fran & Staff are doing with these young guys. I love that we are having fun watching Iowa basketball again. Go Hawks.
by American Bad Ass on Feb 8, 2011 9:29 AM CST reply actions
I wouldnt be suprised if Iowa won three or four more games
Indiana has beaten some good teams at times this year, and we swept them. i heard a Wisconsin guy worrying about their game with Iowa being a trap game, and that is probably true.
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 8, 2011 12:55 PM CST reply actions
Oh btw
The dipshits over at CF actually have the balls to make fun of this video. Calling Fran an idiot even. I mean, yes, we make fun of Rhodes for it but as I said above, that is one of my top 10 non-Iowa inspirational moments. I guess our struggling program can’t celebrate a big road victory but theirs can. Fair huh?
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by Pain in the Sash on Feb 8, 2011 4:58 PM CST reply actions
You spend entirely too much time at CF.
It’s not healthy, man.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I know I know.
This being in college shit really has me confused on what’s right to do while procrastinating. At least I don’t comment. I’m WAY too dignified to do that.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 8, 2011 5:15 PM CST up reply actions
nooooooo
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 8, 2011 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
I spend ZERO time at CF
Life is short… use the time you have wisely. ;)
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by The Bird Cult on Feb 8, 2011 5:50 PM CST up reply actions
Same here.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 10, 2011 10:48 PM CST up reply actions
I hope you aren't surprised by this.
I had a pretty good feeling that they would be all over this video.
Tell me why I'm wrong:
The consensus here really seems to be against me, which probably means that I’m missing something.
To me, this seems like it would have been a perfect celebration . . . if we’d held on against Ohio State. But this was a narrow (road) win against the second-worst team in the Big 10. We just had a more-impressive victory against a once-highly ranked Michigan State team.
I get that this was our first Big Ten streak in awhile. I get that this was our first Big Ten road win in awhile. I get that it was probably emotionally exciting to pull of a comeback and win a close one for a program that hadn’t done those things in awhile.
But these guys are jumping up and down like they just won a championship. Is this how locker rooms are after every win? Were they performing for the camera?
Will they have anything left in the tank when they’ve done something of even more significance? Are they going to have to blow something up if they make the NCAA tourney next year?
Seriously, I must be missing something here. Educate me.
Looking at the team in terms of a progression where......
1) Learn to be competitive with the worst teams.
2) Beat the bottom teams and be competitive with the average teams at home and be competitive with the bottom teams on the road.
3) Beat the average teams at home and be competitive with the top teams at home; beat the bottom teams, and be competitive with the average teams on the road.
4) Beat the top teams at home; beat the average teams and be competitive with the top teams on the road .
5) B10 title contender.
Iowa has taken or is taking the step from two to three above. That is worth celebrating. Step four is where we need to get IMO before we continue playing in March but I don’t think we have been above step 2 for a number of years.
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
by Kluginator on Feb 9, 2011 9:58 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Very concise and clearly worded. Better than I could do!
We are improving. Let’s hope we don’t backslide after 2 big games last week.
I mean, it is a little ridiculous.
but nebraska did everything they could do to lose that game (7 turnovers I think) and ISU barely held on…
Here, they came back from 10 down, on the road, in a mildly hostile environment. so, i’m fine with it. they’re a tight-knit group and it’s good to see the chemistry so high. which is all this video really shows me. and that is what is exciting about mccaffery and this/future iowa teams.
When was the last time they won on the road in the B1G?
When was the last time they had a 1 point win?
When was the last time they came back from 10 (or more) down to win
I know you basically said this, but stop for a second and really ask yourself these questions.
I think you have to cut them some slack. Anyone on this team who isn’t a freshman or transfer doesn’t know how to win anymore. They know losing. All of them have been beaten down to an extent this year, and it has to be frustrating.
Frans not excited about a win. He knows winning. He knows this isn’t technically a big win, but look at those 3 questions again, and ask yourself, isn’t he excited because they’re learning how to win?
Aren’t you excited by that? I am. It’s still a tough road, and it’s going to take time, but you have to celebrate the steps.
Also, remember, the guys are 20ish. I celebrated far dumber things at that age than this.
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Feb 9, 2011 7:10 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, I'm super-excited. I guess I just thought MSU was a much better win, though without the come-frome behind thing playing in.
I actually think you’re spot on with regard to some fo teh guys on that team never having had an experience of coming-from-behind like that.
by The Final Gun on Feb 9, 2011 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
I think you got why they thought it was big, but you just don't agree with them.
I get that this was our first Big Ten streak inawhilethese player’s careers. I get that this was our first Big Ten road win in awhile. I get that it was probably emotionally exciting to pull of a comeback and win a close one for a program that hadn’t done those things in awhile
I’m sure that the adrenaline of the last minute of game time and Indiana getting the last shot all factored into that celebration. I don’t think locker room celebrations occur in a realm of rational reflection. There is no putting the achievement into context, it is a pure expression of being so in the moment that all perspective and rationality is irrelevant. Transcendental on some levels.
This is a good way of saying it:
the adrenaline of the last minute of game time and Indiana getting the last shot all factored into that celebration. I don’t think locker room celebrations occur in a realm of rational reflection. There is no putting the achievement into context, it is a pure expression of being so in the moment that all perspective and rationality is irrelevant
But I just can’t get over my nagging feeling that we’d all be lambasting the Cyclones for a similar celebration.
by The Final Gun on Feb 9, 2011 2:46 AM CST up reply actions
"I'm so proud to be your coach?"
Yeah, that gets mixed reviews on here. On one hand, any sports fan should be able to appreciate what Rhoads and his team was going through. On the other, when it’s somebody you dislike you’re always going to view their actions through a filter. Sports fans may be some of the most egregious perpetrators of relativism around.
I see what you’re getting at though. I know that at least pain_in_the_sash appreciates the Rhoads moment, and I love it as a sports fan, even as I mock it as a Hawk fan.
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