Cyrus Kouandjio Still Considering Iowa
by Adam Jacobi on Feb 3, 2011 11:01 AM CST
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Cyrus Kouandjio still hasn't made a final decision on his college destination and is down to the University of Alabama, Auburn and Iowa as of this morning. The prospect's father told The Tuscaloosa News that there are no plans to make an announcement until Friday at the earliest.
"If he makes a decision today, you will have it tomorrow in the morning," Jean Claude Kouandjio, the father, said. "He's still confused. We keep talking with him, I don't think he's ready yet. He's the one that who wants more time."
There is no timetable for a final decision, Jean Claude Kouandjio said: "I'm hoping that it will be as soon as possible."
"He's deciding between Alabama, Auburn and even Iowa," Jean Claude Kouandjio said. "It may even come back to Iowa. He's considering his options even more now. Those three (schools) have been floating in his mind."
Obviously, it's nice to see Iowa back in the mix for the talented prospect out of Baltimore. Kouandjio has the potential to be Kirk Ferentz's best offensive tackle since Robert Gallery, and he'd probably make a pretty damn good guard too.
More than that, though, I'm glad he has enough time to make this decision on his own terms. It's pretty obvious Kouandjio rushed into the Auburn decision, and while I'm not to use that as evidence of poor character on Gene Chizik's part--I'm sure Nick Saban and Kirk Ferentz were pushing for a decision too--I do think that National Signing Day is more of a deadline than it ought to be. I realize that scholarships are a scarcity and coaches just want to get their players locked in ASAP and all that, but choosing a college is an awfully big deal, and if Kouandjio's not ready then he's just not ready.
As for Ferentz, as no-nonsense as he likes to keep his program, his handling of the Brandon Wegher situation and Iowa's continued involvement in the Kouandjio recruiting process indicates that he has a pretty good grasp on when his players/recruits find themselves in stressful situations (so long as the guy doesn't end up in jail, anyway; then it's Hammer Time), and he can be patient when need be. I still don't expect Iowa to land Cyrus--Bama and Auburn are two of the best programs in the nation, and Iowa isn't on that level--but IF what this ultimately comes down to is the coaches earning the family's trust, I like Ferentz's chances.
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Well said
I hate when people try to use indecision on the part of high school kids making the biggest decisions of their lives as evidence of poor character or something like that. I’m sure he is genuinely struggling with what he wants to do, and good for him for taking time and fully considering all his options.
Agreed
But I will immediately call his integrity and moral fiber into question if he does not choose God’s School, Iowa. Kidding, kidding. Whatever his (or any other recruit’s really) choice is, the most important thing for him is to be comfortable and happy with his choice. Obviously we focus on the football aspect of all of this, but we need to remember there is so much more each player needs to weigh. Wherever he ends up, it will be his de facto home for the next 4 years or so, and football will only occupy one aspect of his life there. I just hope that, whatever his choice is, it is the one that is best for all aspects of his life.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I may be just the person you are talking about but
when I saw Auburn jump into the top 3 seemingly out of nowhere in the 12th hour, my first thought was that they offered his father a butt load of money.
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
This
although, if we were to land CK, our incoming linemen would rival Auburn’s. Both Walsh and Blythe are two of the most highly ranked OGs in the country. Add a book-end tackle like CK and you could really have something special.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Imagine them
with Reiff and Ferentz… Wow
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Feb 3, 2011 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
throw Coker and Coe behind them
and KOK throws away every page in the playbook with a pass.
You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 3, 2011 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
Just thinnk about Rudock with a PA deep ball
to McNutt…
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Feb 3, 2011 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
Come on, man.
Are we outright demoting Vandy or hoping he gets injured, now?
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2011 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
No
I’m talking garbage time for next year (if he doesn’t redshirt). Hopefully Vandy will be able to do this many, many times next year
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Feb 3, 2011 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
If Iowa is using garbage time to get Rudock some throws.
I hope he’s not throwing to McNutt. I’m sure there are some young receivers that wouldn’t mind seeing the field.
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2011 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks, Smash.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2011 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
maybe that's harsh
KOK keeps passing plays that run off of play action. It’s very important
Matt Millen’d
You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 3, 2011 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
We also have an all-american 6'7" tackle from last years class Donnel
Battles are won with a hammer, wars are won with a scalpel
Forgot about Donnel
Wow… These last couple years have been good to Iowa O-Line recruiting
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Feb 3, 2011 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
Agree
I just think it’s silly to automatically assume Auburn is cheating when there are good reasons for CyKo to go there. We wouldn’t want people assuming that Iowa cheated if he ends up in IC.
I may be silly but
Auburn has a well earned rep of paying recruits and they came out of nowhere. I don’t follow recruiting but I understand that it is an ongoing process of getting to know each other and home visits and school visits, etc. From what I can see, Auburn was not in the mix for official visits; I can’t imagine his brother has much good to say about Auburn. Perhaps it was silly to think cheat but I suspect I was not the only one.
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
Even if im a homer, its hard not to imagine them as the "good guy" of the three
well, unless NM is in the mix. we are out goog guy’d by New Mexico, the underdog is sexier
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 3, 2011 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
Side note to this
Lane Kiffin’s brother-in-law, David Reaves, implicated in the NCAA investigation about the Orange Pride shenannigans (he was the one who actually told the hostesses to keep tabs on recruits), is QB coach at New Mexico.
Brunettes not fighter jets
We are not out-good guy'd by a program led by a coach...
that decks one of his own assistants.
Ferentz may be many things, but the perpetrator of an assault on one of his staff-members ain’t one of ’em.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2011 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
Kouandjio took an official visit to Auburn last weekend.
He was in Iowa City the weekend before that.
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2011 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
There is nothing silly with automatically assuming Auburn is cheating.
This is a team with three undefeated seasons, all of which came during some sort of probation.
'86 Miami Hurricanes: peacocks of the football world.
by ReadingRambler on Feb 3, 2011 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
Only SMU has cheated more
The NCAA wil take back the trophy in the next 3 years, and the current players – those that signed yesterday – will be left with the penalty of no bowl, reduced scholorships, etc.
I wouldn’t sign up for that.
So Cam Newton’s dad had a chance to get $180k from Ole Miss, but instead sent him to Auburn for nothing? Not likely.
by Reggie Roby's Wrist Watch on Feb 3, 2011 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
He loves Charles Barkley, toilet paper and eagles?
Although, in fairness, I like Barkley, I need toilet paper, and eagles are cool.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2011 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
My reasons for thinking Auburn cheats have nothing to do with this kid.
But I have eyes.
Honestly, when I heard he hadn’t sent in his letter I wondered if his teammates were giving him a hard time and talking him into coming with them to IC (I know, snowball’s chance, but that was my thought).
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
Talk about ambivalence.
On one hand I’m thrilled that Iowa is in any discussion with Auburn and Alabama.
On the other hand, I’m disgusted that Iowa is in any discussion with Auburn and Alabama.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 3, 2011 11:06 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I still scratch my head as to why Iowa isn't in more of these discussions
Given what the Iowa coached have produced in the past and given Ferentz well publicized reputation as an OL guru. Four star recruits out of high school are first round picks in the NFL after their third year in school. Skinny tight end recruits are built into Outland trophy winners and first round picks. Why aren’t we in on more five star kids who have big time NFL dreams?
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
It's easy to say that sitting on the sidelines,
but these guys have self-confidence (it’s part of what makes them great athletes) and everyone around them has been telling them for years that they’re a sure thing in the NFL one day.
So the question for them isn’t:
Which school gives me the best chance and improving my eventual draft stock?It’s:
Where do I want to play on the way to my eventual 1st Round pick?The fact that this line of thinking so often does a disservice to players doesn’t apply in their case, because they’re different.
by The Final Gun on Feb 3, 2011 11:46 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Because talented or not, these kids are going to go through Ferentz's system the hard way.
Read: you may be amazing in high school but there’s not much of a chance you’ll see the field freshman year and on your journey through this program you may be asked to change positions once or twice. A lot of these kids (or more likely, their parents) won’t swallow their pride and admit that someone else might know what they’re doing.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 3, 2011 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
Dunno about that
Lately we’ve been much less shy about playing kids early if they show the ability to do so (especially on the offensive line). And I think a lot of the position changes are the players asking for a chance somewhere else because they see the writing on the wall. We’re generally open about giving kids a shot at wherever they want to play initially.
IThere are a lot of other factors that make it hard for us to recruit. Location is probably the big one (we’re far away from most talent-rich states, and most people think of Iowa as endless corn fields). Also while we’ve had some great years under Ferentz and Fry, we don’t necessarily have the history of someone like Alabama or Ohio State, or whoever. The chance to play for a program that routinely competes for national titles is hard to pass up (and it’s not like those schools have had a hard time putting kids in the pros).
Maybe on the first point.
However, I don’t buy that programs like Alabama or tOSU “put” kids in the pros so much as have kids who appear to be sure things wear their uni for a few seasons before the inevitable graduation to the big leagues. I think it’s fairly safe to say that Iowa has made a lot of kids better than they would be anywhere else. I think that, with the right touch, you can even sell that angle to a 4-5 star recruit.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 3, 2011 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
Nico Law thought Iowa would be all cornfields.
Then he came here and loved the people.
So glad I could make use of my time listening to his online radio show.
Was it just me
or did anyone else sense the awe in voice of the fan base? To me, it sounded like he was overwhelmed by the support of the fan base and staff and that he pretty much decided during his visit that he wanted to be a part of it.
A thought
Read: you may be amazing in high school but there’s not much of a chance you’ll see the field freshman year and on your journey through this program you may be asked to change positions once or twice
Isn’t that true for just about any D1 athlete? I mean it’s rare, to me, that any Freshman is truly ready to play at the speed/strength of D1 athletics. They may have been the big man on campus but now every team they face, as well as their own, is made up of all BMOC players. The game is significantly faster and I think it takes an enormously rare talent to be able to produce from day one, regardless of school.
Sure, but don't you think some kids are promised that?
Then they get to school, don’t get PT but if they transfer they’re either going down a level or sitting out another year. I’m just saying that I don’t think Ferentz and Co. ever make that promise unless they’re absolutely sure it could be true. Pretty sure that isn’t the case at all places.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2011 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
I agree with you
I’m positive that Ferentz and Co. absolutely do not promise playing time. In fact I’d bet money that they tell the player they probably WONT see the field their freshman year. But I would also venture that quite a few programs (IF they are honest) tell the kids the same thing.
His wanting/needing to take a step back and make an informed, correct (for him) decision - whether he picks Iowa or not -
makes me that much more thrilled we’re opening a pipeline to DeMatha.
"....All drugs should be legal. War is wrong. The rich get richer. The poor get poorer. Thank you. I'll be here all week." ~ Bill Hicks
Exactly
Dematha is a great school with great athletes. No matter what Cyrus chooses, I’m glad that he’s taking his time and is trying to make the correct decision for him.
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Feb 3, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes
I’d be ecstatic if Iowa were to continue to get DeMatha football players and Georgetown kept getting their basketball players. DeMatha produces some great athletes, but more than that, great students and great kids.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
We had one.
His name was Jeff Peterson.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Despite Peterson's sideline antics at Arkansas,
I believe he might have become a decent (maybe not great, but decent) big ten PG if not for the coaching.
I defended Lick, but I’m struggling to think of a player that improved under him (maybe Jake Kelly and?)
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2011 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
Cyrus Tate, Aaron Fuller
Also Jeff Peterson was really bad.
As somewhat of a Dumb & Dumber scholar
the line from the movie is actually “So you’re telling me there’s a chance!” If that is, indeed, to what you’re referencing.
But “so you’re saying there’s a chance” rolls off the tongue better.
I wonder if Cooper, Lomax, and Law are having any input on this. Of course, his brother being at Alabama might have more of an influence than anything else. What I’m trying to say is LOL COME TO IOWA
would it suprise anyone if that Nico Law radio show was what changed his mind?
that show ruled
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 3, 2011 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
His brother is a frosh (or was this past year?) for Bama.
I’m guessing that three years of playing in a vicious rivalry against his brother doesn’t really appeal to him.
Then again, playing against one’s brother seems to suit Micah Hyde pretty well.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
So you're sayin there's a chance...
Was the wording in the movie Tommy Boy. I think thats where a lot of people get it from
"God tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're fucked."-Braveheart
I've seen both of those movies over a dozen times
And I only remember it from Dumb & Dumber.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2011 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I don't remember it from Tommy Boy.
But I do remember: “Quit playin’ with your dinghy.”
And: "I used to grab bear claws as a kid, two at a time, and I’d get them lodged right in this region here. "
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2011 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
Did you eat paint chips as a child?
I’m serious, I’m not quoting the movie, I’m legitimately asking.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Well that seems quite harsh
for a fun little throw-away comment by Chazz. Your anger has gone deep within you.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2011 9:15 AM CST up reply actions
Actually
it was meant rather light-heartedly as a way to both quote the movie and rib Chazz a bit. Nothing was meant by it.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Thanks.
I probably deserve a bit of ribbing, considering I usually argue with you about 1 out of every 4 posts you put on BHGP.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2011 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
His dad's name is Jean Claude Kouandjio?
Even if Cyrus doesn’t come to Iowa, can his dad? That is such a kick ass name.
"There are no Pan Asian supermarkets down in hell, so you can't buy Golden Boy peanuts." - The Mountain Goats
YES.
THIS + INFINITY TIMECOPS.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Feb 3, 2011 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Which ironically
is the number of times I’ve rented Timecops.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Feb 3, 2011 11:39 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Ndamukong Suh translated to "house of spears".
Kouandjio translates to “an eternity of Van Damme time-travel law enforcement movies”
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 3, 2011 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
No.
It translates to “a sport of blood.”
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2011 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
*Insert 3 Inches of Bloodsport gif here*
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2011 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
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That is great.
See what you can do when you don’t use your powers to stalk a bunch of 17 year old football players?
/I say that, and then I realize that I’ve been paying too much attention to Iowa recruiting the last couple of weeks.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2011 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
DJK'd
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
by BentNotBroken on Feb 4, 2011 12:04 AM CST up reply actions
How could anybody hate that?
Oh, I think I get it. Only a hard core hater could hate something that fricking adorable.
Well fuck.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2011 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
Coincidentally
his father’s name is Jean-Claude. I thought this was an important fact to take note of.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2011 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
Preeeeeety sure that was Ross' joke in the first place.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 3, 2011 4:43 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I suppose I'm wearing the Capt. Obvious badge...
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2011 5:25 PM CST up reply actions
I bet that badge will look awesome
as you stroll through the South Farthing…
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2011 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
Only if I have the finest weed
in said area, however. And something tells me I’d be a little out of place, being blonde, blue eyed and 6’5" and all.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 4, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
IF it is Iowa
I want to watch tWWL explode. “Top Recruit spurns SEC (SPEED) for IOWA?!?!? WTF?” is my guess as to what the ticker says on the bottom of the screen.
Got to love DeMatha, having top football players that can think.
You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 3, 2011 11:14 AM CST reply actions
He would be immediately dropped out of the ESPN 150
and dropped to a 3 star since there is now way the #1 offensive lineman would spurn Auburn and Alabama for Iowa.
Where did this notion that ESPN hates Iowa come from?
I don’t see it at all.
Ceci n'est pas un blogue.
Yesterday when they kept saying stuff like Iowa never could have REALLY been in the running, etc.
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Feb 3, 2011 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
Tho they did eat some crow after the Orange Bowl win
and Herbie generally seems to say good things about Iowa.
and did you see the 40 team draft they did a few years ago?
“so we are narrowing our choices down to teams who kick a field goal to beat penn state now?!?”
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 3, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
im not arguing that they werent picked in the right place (they were picked 27th)
im more upset that this particular writer basically said they accomplished one thing up to that point that was worthy of mention. and that same guy had picked Oklahoma State ahead of Iowa, because, ya know, they have done so much historically.
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 3, 2011 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
Aside from contributing
one of the greatest football players of all time.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2011 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
I remember that thing
And while it was poorly done, I don’t think it’s smart to read anything large-scale into that dude’s one-off comment.
If ESPN were actually biased against Iowa, at all, the word “rhabdomyolysis” would have been flying whenever they talked about Iowa’s recruiting. It wasn’t.
Ceci n'est pas un blogue.
It was brought up
when ESPNU talked to Ferentz on the phone and also when they interviewed Herbie about how Iowa’s recruiting class was. The couldn’t even get the right list of Iowa committments up when they were talking to Ferentz on the phone also. A bunch of kids that weren’t even committed to Iowa and not a single one that actually was.
It's wrong to assume ill-intent
when simple incompetence is more than sufficient to explain some of those issues.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
The wrong list of committments
is just more annoying. I don’t think they did that because they hate Iowa, but you would think that tWWL could at least get that right. It was on a show that was dedicated to just signing day for the whole day.
KF showed them what was up though.
“A lot of times the truth gets in the way of a good story.”
Classic.
to be fair...
Clark Kellog was a pretty big backer for the Hawks that season. Herby even kept it clean, showed Iowa some respect.
"I know that I know nothing." - Socrates
by the mandenberg on Feb 4, 2011 12:48 AM CST up reply actions
and by clark kellogg i mean mark may _
"I know that I know nothing." - Socrates
by the mandenberg on Feb 4, 2011 12:50 AM CST up reply actions
Those people all look alike to you.
/that’sracist.gif
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 4, 2011 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
those people?
WHO YOU CALLIN THOSE PEOPLE?
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2011 11:25 PM CST up reply actions
Pat Forde NOT EQUALS massive network bias
But oh well. I guess some people need an enemy.
Ceci n'est pas un blogue.
OK, maybe minor network bias.
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Feb 3, 2011 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
Its not that we need an enemy...
its just that it is a very normal human response to harbor severe hatred for Pat Forde. I mean just look at the guy:
Even Jimmy Clausen thinks he has a punchable face.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2011 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
that may be true
but its more an accumulation of minor little things over the years that makes me think its more of a minor network bias
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 3, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
That's an unhealthy way to take in sports news, if you ask me
But live your life how you want. Not up to me.
Ceci n'est pas un blogue.
as an insider Adam,
do you think the creation of the BTN has altered how ESPN sports news entertainers view the Big Ten in general? I have zero opinion in this matter but have heard often on BHGP that ESPN is pro SEC and anti B10.
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
That's because people that whine about the media are generally not thinking.
ESPN reports sports news. Is there any denying the SECs dominance? They’ve won, what, 5 of the last 6 mNCs? Are ESPN also pro-BigEast because they support them as the best basketball conference in the country?
It’s all horseshit. Iowa gets just as much attention as it earns. No one was complaining about Iowa bias when Mark May was up the Hawkeyes’ ass in ‘02 and ’03, but now they hate him because he doesn’t give Iowa even recognition.
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2011 12:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I have centered all of my hatred towards just a few people
1. Colin Cowherd because I cant stand his voice.
2. Greg Doyle……because he is a giant douche.
3. Jim Rome…….he makes no sense at all when he talks.
4. Pat Forde…….this is the definition of hate for me. It is beyond me how he has a job but I guess it does the trick and brings traffic to ESPN.
by gchristeson on Feb 3, 2011 12:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I would add the Ghost of Beono Cook
Assuming – or hoping – he is already dead.
by Reggie Roby's Wrist Watch on Feb 3, 2011 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Let us not forget Jesse Palmer
Anyone transitioning from the Bachelor to sports analyst has little credibility in my book.
by Hank Thrasher on Feb 3, 2011 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
@gchristeson
You forgot Mark “The Douche” Schlabach.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2011 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
Okay.
How about, even if he was drafted by an NFL team and remained on the two-deeps for 4 years? I’d imagine he probably knows a little bit about the game of football.
I imagine that people that hate Jesse Palmer because he appeared on the Bachelor also hate Justin Timberlake because he was in a boy band.
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2011 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
Hey now, I like JT
And sure Jesse Palmer is more knowledgable about football than most, but that doesn’t negate the douche factor.
by Hank Thrasher on Feb 3, 2011 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
People just want to hate everything
It’s a lot easier to hate from the outside and snark your way through life than to give credit for people creating interesting or even great works of art. It also seems to be that they tend to be the loudest.
Life’s already hard enough, I don’t know why we need people constantly bringing others down.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2011 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
Also, the ratio of snarkers:creatives
is certainly much higher than lurkers:posters.
Sorry, rant over. I just hate the constant hate.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2011 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
I HATE YOU!
No, but seriously, I’m with Thrasher. I don’t doubt Jesse Palmer has forgotten more about football than I’ll ever know. Doesn’t change the fact that he is a huge douche though. I mean seriously, he had TO GO ON A REALITY SHOW just to find a woman who would talk to him. Even though he was an NFL QB, in the largest city in the country. How big a tool do you have to be to not get laid in NYC?
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Then you're not looking at your world
And would lose that bet a thousand times over
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2011 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
Ah. Thought your comment was in reference to mine.
Stupid end of the indentations.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2011 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry, but you weren't comparing a Timberlake cd to "art" were you?
I’m sure it takes some creativity to figure out where to place your autotuned lyrics (written by someone else) over a stellar Timbaland beat, but that’s what the mixer and producer are for.
But I don’t find much of Jackson Pollack’s work all that compelling either. So what do I know?
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
He wasn't comparing Timberlake to anything.
That last line in my comment was a throwaway and Catnuts didn’t reference it at all.
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2011 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
I sort of like Justin Timberlake.
Some of his music is okay, I guess. I really liked him in the Social Network. Jesse Palmer’s hair, though, is douchey to the max, and he says some things that, to me, sound sort of stupid. Overall, though, he’s a pretty good analyst. But hair just irritates me, for some reason.
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
Yes, the SEC has won 5 of the last 6...
Mythical Media National Championships.
I’m not going to get into a pissing match over opinions, but if, tomorrow, tWWL got on UConn’s (football) jock and just kept laying it on thick for years, and UConn did absolutely nothing different, they’d most likely still get better.
With that kind of exposure to ESPN’s key demographic (teenaged boys- – “hook em while they don’t know any better and they just keep watching” should be tWWL’s tagline) you know that a few kids would be bandwagoning in no time. They’d start to get better recruits, just based on exposure that wasn’t there before. With better players they’d have more wins (most likely) and would continue to get better and better players.
This is why the SEC-all-the-time thing gets to so many people. Unless someone would like to argue that television has no influence on opinions and decision making in today’s society. That’d be a fun argument.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
So you honestly think that if the B1G was winning with that kind of frequency that ESPN wouldn't be all over it?
Because that seems absurd. The networks are all over the SEC because the SEC is winning. Just like they were all over USC when USC was winning. I don’t think it’s unusual for the national media to report on teams that are the best in the nation.
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2011 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
No, I think they'd do their usual commentary thing and would make as much money as they could while it lasted.
But call me a cynic, I believe that the big contract with the SEC has ESPN singing their praise loudest, which inevitably leads to better recruitments, etc.
I don’t think it’s a Mob type thing, but I understand how business works, and to say their business doesn’t interfere with (or take prescedence over) their coverage of others is naive (IMO).
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
I honestly think that ESPN hypes SEC football...
as well as Longhorn football, because their fans spend money.
Now, Big Ten teams’ fans spend money, too, but we have to pay heating and dental bills, as well.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2011 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
This (plus a lurker post)
In addition, look at population density. The higher the population density, the more likely a top recruit comes from that area (not to mention, it’s easier to get coverage of your games if you live in Chicago then if you live in Durant).
Population density currently favors the South, Texas, California and the Eastern Seaboard. A lot of recruits choose to stay near their hometowns. Most recruits that go to SEC schools are from the South already and few if any Big Ten teams stand a chance at them because of that fact only.
Cyrus is the exception to the rule. He’s not even looking at ACC or Big East schools. He currently has ties to Iowa and Alabama. That’s what makes the Auburn decision so odd (and even considering New Mexico).
Bethany: Were they sent to Hell?
Metatron: Worse. Wisconsin. For the entire span of human history.
"South, Texas, California and the Eastern Seaboard"
You’re Delaney, aren’t you (and were just tossing Cali in there to throw us off the trail)?
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 9:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If it wasn't for the Bracket Challenge
I would have nothing to do with ESPN.com. But because that exists, I have to be on tWWL all year.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2011 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
And even if it *did* exist
and ESPN really did expend the energy to actually hate Iowa… wouldn’t that be a good thing? Given a choice in this case, I’d rather be hated.
"....All drugs should be legal. War is wrong. The rich get richer. The poor get poorer. Thank you. I'll be here all week." ~ Bill Hicks
by Bucketochicken on Feb 3, 2011 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
But can you combine them?
I mean, everyone knows that a hate-fuck is a wonderful thing. But is possible to hate-fellate or be hate-fellated? And would you want to be?
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Seems dangerous.
"....All drugs should be legal. War is wrong. The rich get richer. The poor get poorer. Thank you. I'll be here all week." ~ Bill Hicks
by Bucketochicken on Feb 3, 2011 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
I'm imagining a bear trap now.
Fuuuuuu…
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2011 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
No. It's a scary thing.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Feb 3, 2011 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
Enough hate. A few things that I love.....
Meat bun sandwiches
Loni Anderson when she worked in Cincinnati
my flowbee
bacon pancakes
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
by Kluginator on Feb 3, 2011 4:15 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I don't know about death but
my flowbee haircut is killer!
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
Have you not heard the urban myth about the Flowbee?
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 9:10 PM CST up reply actions
Can these pics not get another rec?!???
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
by BentNotBroken on Feb 4, 2011 12:06 AM CST up reply actions
I was more into Bailey
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Feb 4, 2011 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
We’re starting to sound like Nebraska fans. And that is very troubling to me. ESPN has had it out for them for over a decade. It really must be your anti-corn subsidy theory.
yeah, all nebraska fans are douche bags
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
I wouldn't go that far.
I know several who aren’t. But even they buy into the ESPN hates the Huskers. I think that the last time they played in the MNC many on ESPN (and most people outside the state of NE) thought that they didn’t belong there, what with Colorado whipping them in Boulder the day after Thanksgiving and NE not even winning the North.
C'mon man.
I don’t think anyone thinks there are secret meeting in a Connecticut bunker to exclude Iowa and attack them at all angles…
but they sure don’t like us, and at times it seems like more (though they occasionally- – though far less often- – say something nice about us too). Kenny Mayne not included (though I don’t think he’s been back to Iowa since he visite the Field of Dreams).
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
It's not that they don't like us
It’s that Iowa fans tend to view the team(s) as better than the rest of the world views them.
Most sports media is pretty fair. Iowa still hasn’t proven it can be successful year after year like the teams that get all the “love.” We had a nice little run in the early 00’s, but that success was not dynasty-making, nor was it enough to elevate us to elite status.
Once we are winning more B10 championships than OSU, Wisconsin, and/or Michigan for a few years, they’ll heap the praise on Iowa. But we have to earn that spot in the spotlight.
Brunettes not fighter jets
Plus there's that stupid "Iowa is better when no one respects us" card that everyone loves so much.
If Iowa fans don’t find reasons to hate the media they have to admit that their claims of disrespect hold no water, and we definitely can’t have that.
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2011 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
And yes.
"....All drugs should be legal. War is wrong. The rich get richer. The poor get poorer. Thank you. I'll be here all week." ~ Bill Hicks
by Bucketochicken on Feb 3, 2011 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
Too much rationale in this string.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2011 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
I think ESPN likes us...
but doesn’t love us. And why should they? We only pull a few million sets of eyeballs, not a third of the country like some of the bigger programs can.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2011 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
I don't even thingk that the BTN likes us.
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
DiNardo does
And when Glen Mason was on the radio in the Twin Cities during last week’s rhabdo-gate, he did everything he could do to avoid getting trapped into saying something bad about Iowa and Ferentz. He’s a fan of the program, it was obvious.
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Feb 3, 2011 4:45 PM CST up reply actions
Coaches who had difficulty winning in the Big Ten, respect Ferentz and what he has accomplished.
I can’t decide if that is a good thing, or a bad thing. I’ll lean toward good until I hear this guy start praising KF:
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2011 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
Please don't ever refer to Iowa as being similar to the Vikings again.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, you meant ACTUAL vikings?
Yeah, plus I enjoy plundering.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I was sticking with historical references
Like, nobody expects the tulip market to crash causing widespread economic collapse
/Glenn Beck'd?
Not politics (okay, sort of), but he referenced that on his show a month-ish ago.
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
No, there are a couple of books about it
There was rampant speculation on tulip bulbs (some reaching the price of a mansion) and then one day nobody wanted to pay for tulip bulbs and the Dutch economy collapsed.
I've read a book on it
That’s just the “pop culture” reference.
Jesus, referring to the history of the tulip bulb market as pop culture…
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
Oh, boy, you're stretching my memory here.
It was a ways back (probably earlier part of the Aughts) and it was a section of a book.
Ah, I think I’ve found it. I’m pretty sure it was Peter Garber’s Famous First Bubbles: The Fundamentals of Early Manias.
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
I have always read about it
from more of a botanical perspective, rather than economic. Interesting.
The bulb market crashed due to speculators (sounds familiar).
People who were buying bulbs just to sell them without ever actually possessing them (and with no plans to grow said bulbs). Sound familiar?
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 8, 2011 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
But sometimes,
like when I a friend picked up that truck-stop hooker, it shouldn’t come as that big a surprise.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
And an almost fanatical devotion to the genitals
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Feb 3, 2011 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
Ninjas.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2011 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
I feel that in contemporary society the appearance
of ninjas has become an expected and almost anticipated occurrence.
Maybe
but good ninjas? That’s a different story.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2011 2:02 PM CST up reply actions
Okay, good ninjas, herpes, vikings, the spanish
inquisition, and the Iowa Hawkeyes. Totally unexpected.
Yes.
"....All drugs should be legal. War is wrong. The rich get richer. The poor get poorer. Thank you. I'll be here all week." ~ Bill Hicks
by Bucketochicken on Feb 3, 2011 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
Okay, but why do we have to win a bunch of championships just to have ESPN say something nice about us?
I mean, I really don’t want tWWL treating us like they do USC or Florida. That would make me sick.
Don’t act like we can do no wrong, but don’t act like we’ve got lepracy either.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
What kind of nice things were there to say about Iowa football recently?
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2011 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
Eh, I'm not a fan of the endzone font.
"....All drugs should be legal. War is wrong. The rich get richer. The poor get poorer. Thank you. I'll be here all week." ~ Bill Hicks
by Bucketochicken on Feb 3, 2011 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
@ Mexican't
Don’t act like Iowa sucked this year. The Insight win over a 10-win team was nice, and we did hammer ISU, PSU and MSU. Sure, this ain’t a gravy train with biscuit wheels, but it wasn’t 2007, either.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2011 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not saying Iowa didn't deserve good press at all this year.
They were considered the front-runner by ESPN to win the BigTen, or tie for the spot, after smashing Sparty. But recently, there wasn’t much good to say about Iowa. Drug arrests, assualt convictions and rhabdo. Those are the stories, that’s what is going to be reported.
Also, when replying to someone, feel free to reply to that person instead of picking the comment at the bottom of the thread and using that persons screenname. Ther’s a reason that a reply button is available on every comment.
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2011 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry.
I usually reply at the end of the thread because it seems easier to follow on my computer. Some of these threads get pretty long, and if I reply to a comment, sometimes you have to scroll down two or three times to find the reply.
I hope that makes a little sense.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2011 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
They should go back to the 1980s style
with the helmet profiles on both sides
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Just de-italicize the current one, and we're cool.
"....All drugs should be legal. War is wrong. The rich get richer. The poor get poorer. Thank you. I'll be here all week." ~ Bill Hicks
by Bucketochicken on Feb 3, 2011 1:55 PM CST up reply actions
You can take the emphasis out of the font
but you can’t take the font out of the emphasis… or something.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2011 2:00 PM CST up reply actions
You want an example?
Insight Bowl.
Who won? If you aren’t an Iowa fan you don’t know because OMG GOOFY GANGLY QB!!! NFL FIRST ROUND blah, blah, blah…
and then SportsCenter started and it was more LANKY QB FROM MIZZOU!!!
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
Didn't Prater's INT make the Top 10 the following morning?
In fact, wasn’t it the #1 play? What the hell is there to whine about?
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2011 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
My god man, you don't get it.
I’m not whining. And I guess I missed it (like the rest of the country) because it was the following morning. And like you said, it’s what happened so it’s what they reported on. Were they praising Iowa’s DBs? Did they mention the stiffling defense? Did they say “This proves they’re more than just lucky”?
I’m asking because I don’t watch that shit.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
So now you're saying that Iowa doesn't get enough respect on a network you don't watch.
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2011 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
Well played.
I just don’t get why you’re arguing with me about this.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 4:31 PM CST up reply actions
I don't like when Mom and Dad fight
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2011 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
They fight because you cry.
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
I see ESPN enough (when we play and the announcers have no fucking clue who we are)
But I go out of my way to not watch it if I can help it (that’s what I was trying to say).
Fuck it. Waste your time on that shit, and continue to support the corporate structure that is telling people to not like Iowa. That’s your choioce if that’s who you want to give your money to (thus perpetuating more USC vs. SEC Championship games).
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
Does your tinfoil hat get in the way when you type that or do you just set it aside?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Arrrrggggg.
Look, I didn’t spell it out, but are you going to pile on and disagree that ESPN are the opinion makers, and that the mNC is decided more by opinion and less by record (in most instances)?
And isn’t Forde telling people to not like Iowa?
And doesn’t watching up the ratings ($), thus feeding the beast?
It isn’t that much of a stretch, but I’ve had a long day of work and a shitload of shovelling yesterday, so my thoughts aren’t as cough collected and rational cough as usual.
[C’mon, this is the internet. Hyperbole is king.]
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
I'm just tired of the gross over-generalizing going on.
And railing against “the man” (or in this case, “the corporate structure that is telling people to not like Iowa”) here is just lazy rhetoric and a step or two above warning people about the black helicopters and one world government.
Some people that work for ESPN do very good work. Some people that work for ESPN do very bad, lazy work. It is what it is. Intelligent consumers can determine which is which and support what they like. Painting them all with the “it sucks” brush is intellectually lazy and dishonest.
Reading and bitching about Forde’s work is pointless and only feeds the monster. Tell me how often you saw Patrick, Adam, HEC, HFMR, Stoops, or myself link to his work to bitch about it. Or the Doyel piece. Or whatever. We’ve said our piece about them in the past (especially Forde) and there’s no point in continuing to give them attention, even to slag them off. I’m not going to censor people and tell them what they can and can’t link to, but I do think it’s a big waste of time to get pissy about it.
And, frankly, Forde couldn’t have written that article in the first place if Iowa hadn’t completely fucked up the P.R. situation in the first place. If Ferentz had given the presser he did yesterday last Thursday, the reaction would have been far different.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Well...
if you’re not worried about the black helicopters and the one-world-government, then you haven’t read enough Left Behind books.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2011 5:11 PM CST up reply actions
Much to the betterment of one's own mental health
as I’m pretty sure reading them is a surefire way to get dumber.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Hey, don't put the NWO folks and the Left Behind folks in the same boat.
Us one-world-government folks have WAY nicer tinfoil hats.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
Intelligent consumers?
That would remove 95% or so of the people who post there.
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Feb 3, 2011 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
I understand. Meant no intellectual dishonesty or laziness (I agree wholeheartedly, and have posted such in the past)
I honestly have only seen one Forde article (last year) but feel I have an okay grasp of his viewpoints due to others quoting him (hopefully in context, but I get my “news” from many sources, so hopefully the repetition isn’t just the echo chamber) and seeing his drivel on t.v. while at others’ homes. I wasn’t even mentioning him originally, and made the argument above that I do not believe it’s some active conspiracy, but more likely a result of bias (due to ignorance) and a company trying to maximize their profits. But then I was baited (not really) into intensifying my argument and ended up overstating my argument for dramatic effect. But hey, it’s the internet. That happens.
But you are right Ross, I’ll stop bitching about something I cannot change so as to not feed the beast.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
Addendum
Pat Forde takes a shot at Iowa so that he has something to write about. He forms opinion based on minimal information and what makes (in his shriveled little walnut of a mind) a good story.
He’s not sitting there twirling his mustache plotting the next hit on Iowa, it’s just something that popped up. Pat Forde is a horrible journalist and a moron to boot. It’s not malice, it’s incompetence, as a previous poster pointed out.
Brunettes not fighter jets
I think Forde is exactly what he seems to be
which is a troll. He may not peruse every comment, but he knows readers and fans of specific conferences and schools despise him, and he revels (or is instructed to revel) in the villain role. In short, I choose not to feed him by reading that tripe and instead just ignore it.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2011 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
Have you ever read Forde Yard Dash?
He’s a horrendous writer. Pat Harty is a good writer in comparison.
Brunettes not fighter jets
Yeah, they're at least equally terrible.
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Feb 3, 2011 5:45 PM CST up reply actions
You're splitting hairs.
But yeah, he’s not very good and his journalistic integrity is… well, insubstantial at best. But that’s like saying Michael Jordan was a solid basketball player. We all know what he is; and hack and a troll who writes a column with the purpose of grinding peoples gears and being provocative.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2011 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly.
This is why I have a hard time even inferring an “I hate Iowa” agenda from Forde’s piece (let alone an “ESPN hates Iowa” agenda). I believe he would have written essentially the same article if this had happened at Purdue or Arizona or Rutgers or Mississippi State.
He’s an equal opportunity hack and troller extraordinaire.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
He is a result/extention of pop culture.
Stupid. Uninformed. Loudmouthed and talking constantly anyway.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
No, I think most likely they're just indifferent to us.
We don’t make them much money (except in bowl season now).
As far as
Iowa fans tend to view the team(s) as better than the rest of the world views them
all I can say is, that’s EVERY fan base.
And about half the time it’s justified.
Sometimes we see things from the homer’s perspective, but a lot of the time the team earns respect and still gets none. Maybe they just don’t know how to sell us to the rest of the nation, so they ignore us (and when we don’t go away they bash us). I dunno, but Iowa doesn’t get the same treatment that many others do.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
Who is it that gets the kind of attention that Iowa "deserves"?
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2011 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
Re-reading what I wrote (please wait)...
…Nope, I didn’t say “deserves”- – what I was saying is that in this day of flash and hype I don’t think ESPN knows how to sell a non-flashy team lead by a coach who goes out of his way to avoid hype.
It’d just be nice for us to do something good and hear tWWL acknowlege it in a positive way.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
Didn't they praise the Iowa Orange Bowl win?
I think Kirk Herbstreit had Iowa in his top 5 coming into this season. I don’t understand where this idea that ESPN ignores Iowa’s accomplishments is coming from. Iowa was considered a darkhorse national title contender before this year started, how much more acknowledgment is available?
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2011 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
In re-reading this at home, I've realized that at this point I was just arguing because...
I do realize that they acknowledge good things that Iowa does, it just SEEMS disproportionate at times.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
Boise State
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Feb 3, 2011 4:47 PM CST up reply actions
You know what Iowa could do to get the attention that Boise State gets?
Win 12 games in a season. It wouldn’t even take a streak like the one that Boise has compiled. Iowa needs only to have one 12-win season to be big time news on ESPN.
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2011 5:26 PM CST up reply actions
Or have an 8-5 season
and get their all-time leading receiver arrested on half-baked charges and then have 13 players wind up in the hospital for mysterious reasons.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 3, 2011 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah yeah yeah
Let’s do that! I’ll take two (if there are enough for everyone).
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
Except they didn't say that.
They said that Iowa was eliminated based on information provided. Bill McGregor, head coach at DeMatha, was quoted as saying that it was Bama and Auburn. Iowa was considered out of the running before yesterday. Up to that point, no one was denying that Iowa was a top 5 selection, but wasn’t likely to land the kid because they were competing with the reigning national champ and the previous national champ. That doesn’t seem all that unusual.
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2011 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
If CyKo selects Iowa, ESPN Bottom Line would read:
“Auburn, Bama pull offer to DeMatha OT”
His fake 40 yard time
would instantly go up by 2.0 seconds though.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
quit raining on the hate parade
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Feb 3, 2011 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
Well it does seem
like we’ve been spurned a few times when it comes to Game Day. There have been a few times over the years where we’ve clearly had the more interesting/competitive game and the choose another lame location.
i thought we were done, numbers wise?
do we have any scholarships left to give?
Darkness warshed over the Dude - darker'n a black steer's tookus on a moonless prairie night. There was no bottom.
by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Feb 3, 2011 11:17 AM CST reply actions
Ross linked to Mas Casa saying that Vincent and Iowa are "parting ways" due to academics
so we still have at least one open
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Feb 3, 2011 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, that's not an issue.
We took 24 yesterday and Heiar counts against a previous year anyway because he’s a JUCO. In terms of total schollies, I think we’re also still fine.
And there’s the usual inevitable attritition that hits in spring/summer anyway.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
does that Include the one Meyer is getting?
is he still getting it?
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 3, 2011 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
I think he would count against prior years
but obviously we would still have to be at or under the total cap of 85. I think Iowa graduated 29 seniors this year (not sure that they were all on scholarship), plus attrition (Ferguson, will probably a couple more because it always happens), should mean that we could give Meyer a scholarship and still be safely under the limit.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Yep
The ever-handy scholarship distribution chart at Hawkeye Report already has Meyer slotted for a scholarship and still has us two under the limit of 85. It also includes Zach Furlong, who may wind up leaving; fifth-year seniors who haven’t sniffed the two-deeps in years have been known to leave.
And even if we were at 86 or 87 I wouldn’t be particularly worried about Ferentz having to pull a Saban and get rid of a few extra dudes. Guys always flunk out or get in trouble or get homesick or don’t like their spot on the depth chart.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I've already exhausted my free trials at HR
So I’ll post a question that may be answered there. I thought the limit was 25 in any year. So even if we have 25 this year it may not add up to 85 with the huge senior class. I didn’t think you could go over 25 in a year even if that leaves you with less than 85 schollies. Is that correct?
The BigTen allows for 28 signatures each year.
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2011 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
Well, to be hyper-accurate
the Big Ten allows for up to 28 signatures a year. But, if you do oversign, you must submit materials to the conference describing in detail where the open scholarships came from and how why the player that gave it up did so.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Isaw a quote from him which said he was still thinking about playing alongside his brother.
So I’m pretty sure he’ll pick Alabama now.
BUT STILL IT WOULD BE PRETTY FUCKING AWESOMEIF HE CAME HERE.
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Feb 3, 2011 11:19 AM CST reply actions
I hope he listened to Nico's internet show last night
Those MD guys were LOVING the Iowa attention. AJ was also there, received almost no attention, and sounded sad when he talked about choosing MD over Iowa.
Nico, Lomax, and Cooper were going on and on and on about how many people were welcoming them to the “family.” Nico said he’d heard from a ton of current Iowa players.
by KinnickNorthHawk on Feb 3, 2011 11:22 AM CST reply actions
Is AJ the same as Hendy?
I was confused by this.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2011 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
This offseason's been so crazy, even MY eye is starting to puff up like Ferentz
1) Locker-room fight ghost story
2) Drug-house gate
3) Robinson rollin’-with-his-homies-gate
4) Bowl victory over #12 Mizzou
5) Rhabdo-gate
6) Recruiting class hits the sweet spot
7) Victory over Izzo?
8) CyKo-watch
What a rollercoaster. I kinda want to go back into my hole with Punxsutawney Phil
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Feb 3, 2011 11:31 AM CST reply actions
Of course if we get CyKo
There are going to be probes and allegations out the ass.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2011 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
You know who I feel really bad for this offseason? Morehouse
With Iowa making all of these splashes in the news, poor guy can’t get a chance to sit back, crack a few good beers and relax in the warm glow of a Green Bay Super Bowl run.
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Feb 3, 2011 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
Definitely
But I’m sure he wouldn’t mind to break the news that CyKo committed to Iowa.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2011 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
Warm Glow...
also known as perpetual doldrums.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2011 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
Of course if we get CyKo, there are going to be probes and allegations out the ass.
Wow, they’re serious about screening for the rhabdo now, aren’t they?
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2011 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
Why?
let me take five minutes to look at Iowa’s recruiting classes over the years………….yup…….yeah…..no we aren’t corrupt. i think corrupt schools never would have taken DJK, Sash etc
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 3, 2011 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
I was sarcastic....mostly
But given how every time we breathe wrong, we’ve got negative media on our ass. I guess what I’m saying is, nothing will surprise me any more.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2011 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
Well......
Forde would demand one
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 3, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
Exactly what I was getting at
There’s got to be something sketchy for him to spurn the SEC for a fat slow midwest team. I hope Forde’s probe leads him right to the amount of draft picks Ferentz has had on the line.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2011 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
Doubtful.
Usually Forde’s probes lead him directly up his own ass.
by 9isEnough on Feb 3, 2011 12:09 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Gotta rec that.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Feb 3, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
Well spoken.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2011 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
Forde and probe in the same sentence?
Oh, the possibilities. Man, do I dislike that talentless hack.
He embiggened that role with his cromulent performance.
by lo-hi-hawkeye on Feb 3, 2011 12:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
My friend called his the Ass Probe
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2011 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
I worked with a woman who drove a purple Probe.
She never got the joke.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2011 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
THERE WAS A GHOST IN THE LOCKER ROOM?!
Was it Nile Kinnick’s??
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Feb 3, 2011 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
No it was AIRBHG
he appeared briefly in a semi-corporeal form just to torment his victims.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
coker..........COKERRRRRRR!
whats good man? snaps ankle and leaves
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 3, 2011 11:49 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2011 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
and don't forget the
“Magic Water Bottle” theory
by waterboy31321 on Feb 3, 2011 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
I believe that's a soccer reference from the Captain
In soccer matches a guy drops to the turf to try to get a call at any time he can and rolls around like he’s been shot. Makes the training staff come out, and then gets a cure from the “magic water bottle” that they spray on his shinguards and he’s back up and running. I’m sure I’ve heard announcers mention it in those exact words.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2011 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
And here people were making fun of me for thinking it was a real thing!
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Feb 3, 2011 2:03 PM CST up reply actions
You yourself admitted you were gullible
I don’t think there was anyone making fun of you besides saying you would believe anything
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Feb 3, 2011 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
I was not going to post anything in the Nico Law radio show comments
That one got creepy. I am a huge fan of your work in other areas SEG, but that one weirded me out just a little.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2011 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
Huh??
I have no idea what you’re talking about.
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Feb 3, 2011 5:46 PM CST up reply actions
What Norsehawk
I didn’t play football in college, but I was pressured into going to little brother by my family friends and teachers. Obviously didn’t work out for me. Its such a big decision that I wish signing day wasn’t a deadline. Every kid should wait until they’re 100% sure that’s the school for them.
by RH's Bookie on Feb 3, 2011 11:33 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Jean Claude Kouandijo
Clearly hails from the half of Africa that the French “colonized”. What a great name.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
I just took a gander over at Alabama's site on here
and if that’s how Alabama fans react to stuff like this, i really hope he goes somewhere else, even Auburn.
talk about a spoiled fanbase.
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 3, 2011 11:47 AM CST reply actions
They've gotten spoiled by the Saban resurgence
But, when he decides to bolt in a few years and the next guy isn’t as talented and has to cut corners and cheat, they’ll be right back on probation and bitching and moaning about how unfair everyone is to them.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I read it and thought it was pretty funny.
Until they started talking shit about us because of RHABDO.
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Feb 3, 2011 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
i didnt read the comments, just the column
“he had better be worth it” left a bad taste in my mouth
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 3, 2011 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
well, because
worth what exactly? the hour or so it took to write the column on him? because other than that you didnt put any work into recruiting him.
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 3, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
there were a number of complimentary posts about Iowa and Iowa City
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
Alabama fans? Spoiled?
Surely, you jest.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2011 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
A little further down in the comments
There was a tangent where a few of the commenters were actually giving some love to IC (and Iowans in general). Interesting.
He embiggened that role with his cromulent performance.
by lo-hi-hawkeye on Feb 3, 2011 12:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i meant an alabaman at one hawk game this year
who was a big hawk fan (family was from iowa) and he brought a ’bama fan and ’burn fan with him. they all were loving iowa.
Just to clear this up.
Iowa fans are going to attach Auburn and Alabama and accuse them of cheating, but get angry about people questioning the program for sending 13 athletes to the hospital with rhabdomyolysis?
Maybe it’s time to relax. Pulling skeletons out of others’ closets generally accomplishes nothing. Are all the people accusing Auburn of buying players going to ’fess up and apologize if the NCAA investigation comes back and says that Auburn actually never did anything wrong and that it was all Mississippi State the whole time?
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2011 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Mex
I think regardless of the current issue, it has been well documented and Auburn has been penalized previously for paying players. Ex-coaches have been interviewed admitting the practice has gone on for years.
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
Are they currently on probation?
Should we assume they’re cheating just because they have in the past? If past transgressions is the barometer, why is SMU, or any of the schools from the old SWC, allowed to play football?
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
And OJ may have changed but would you let him date your daughter
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
I know. I suck at analogies but by the time I think of a good one
CyKo will have decided.
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
If programs are to be perpetually punished for past problems...
then we’re screwed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Iowa_Hawkeyes_football#1930s_.E2.80.93_A_football_depression
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2011 4:31 PM CST up reply actions
It's very insulting, IMO, to insinuate that money is involved here.
Because the implication is that the Kouandjio family is only interested in money and not any other the actual factors in choosing a college. If that’s the case, why did they encourage him to back off and reconsider? Wouldn’t the logical reason be that Iowa and Alabama offered money too? Shouldn’t Iowa be investigated?
Just let the Auburn/$$$ thing go. It doesn’t end up anywhere good.
Ceci n'est pas un blogue.
by Adam Jacobi on Feb 3, 2011 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Essentially, if you wanna bash Auburn, bring up money.
But when we’re talking about a young guy who has a big life decision to make don’t taint his career by suggesting he’s somehow part of their shenanigans.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
agreed
"You’re talking about things that are real. That’s real. In those other dual meets, it wasn’t real, but now it’s real." ~ Tom Brands regarding the Iowa State dual.
The difference between CyKo and Cam Newton
is that CyKo’s parents don’t appear to be spineless scum bags. CyKo will go where he wants to go.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2011 3:01 PM CST up reply actions
The Auburn $ thing is a joke about Auburn.
The kid goes to private school, so unless he’s on scholly (and I don’t care to know if he is or isn’t) his family probably doesn’t have to worry about $.
I actually berated some people on a different site about this. They were saying he’s the next SHenderson or TPryor, and I was pointing out that this kid (from what very little I know) seems to have a good head, and seems to care about academics, and that the comparison was weak-sauce.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
by kleph on Feb 3, 2011 12:36 PM CST reply actions 19 recs
Hmmm, I'm gonna grab a bag of caramel corn.
Yummy.
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Feb 3, 2011 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
God that's... so creepy and so rec'd
"....All drugs should be legal. War is wrong. The rich get richer. The poor get poorer. Thank you. I'll be here all week." ~ Bill Hicks
by Bucketochicken on Feb 3, 2011 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
Awesome gif
Also, loved your write-ups on the Insight Bowl and the Iowa-Arizona game this year. Great job on those.
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Feb 3, 2011 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
thanks
i had a great time. and i really need to see one a kinnick now.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
You can be my guest next year; free Nov. 5?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 3, 2011 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
way too far out for me to say
but lets keep in touch about it. it’s the week we play LSU at home and i usually try to see that one if i can.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
Can't imagine why you'd want to see that...
…you have my email, keep in touch.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 3, 2011 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
honestly
because it’s almost always a good game and lsu fans are loud, drunk and almost always a ton of fun to be around… not a passel of complete asshats like a lot of our our regular opponents.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
by kleph on Feb 3, 2011 9:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
2005 Cap One Bowl vs. LSU
I can attest to this. PSU fans are the only fanbase that I’ve personally been as impressed with.
Also, FWIW, I understand McCann’t is the host with most.
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
by BentNotBroken on Feb 3, 2011 10:48 PM CST up reply actions
McCann't is a very gracious and wonderful host
And his wife deserves much respect for agreeing to take their 3 kids out of the house for the weekend so he could host us all. I’ve never met that woman, but she’s awesome.
My wife and kids
were actually bound and gagged in the storage closet all weekend but nobody would have stayed had they known that…or in Ross’ case, he wouldn’t have left.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 4, 2011 10:49 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Full of win
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Feb 4, 2011 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
But the Husker fans are the greatest ever!!!
I swear. So they say themselves.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
There are few things on the internet
better than a well placed gif. +1
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
I'm going to oversign ON HATING YOUR STUPID GUTS
'86 Miami Hurricanes: peacocks of the football world.
by ReadingRambler on Feb 3, 2011 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
Well
I’m not sleeping tonight.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2011 2:31 PM CST up reply actions
Shakes angry fist at you
but i love MJ, so…
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 3, 2011 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
At this point Cyrus' recruitment seems to be as much about program prestige
as actual talent contribution. Iowa, Auburn, and Alabama are going to have very good o-lines with or without this kid. The only school that would have seen a massive increase in ability would be New Mexico.
It would be nice to get the top rated o-linemen, but I think the limiting factor in Iowa’s future success is going to be Qb play rather than the o-line.
He will be a very good player, pretty quickly.
Yes, prestige is involved, but I think we could use him on the field, maybe within a year or two.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2011 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
Media bias?
I don’t think ESPN as a whole hates Iowa. Remember to separate opinion generators from information gatherers. Then remind yourself that some people do both.
There are some very lazy journalists out there who make any info fit a pre-determined story. There are aggressive journalists who feel it is their mission to attack any and all preconceived notions. Some just try to gather and share what they’ve learned.
We live in a media-satured age, so much so that our instinct is to pick one info source ~ usually the one most palatable to us ~ and stick with it. My goal is to at least understand other viewpoints and try to remember that I may be wrong in what I think and feel.
That being said, Forde can get bent.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Feb 3, 2011 1:57 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
THIS
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Feb 3, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
I do not hate ESPN. I hate Pat Forde and the commenters. Same 4 guys going back and forth bashing each other.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2011 2:29 PM CST up reply actions
Yep.
ESPN
YouTube
Any tech website
I’m sure there’s many others
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2011 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
We are all a bunch of biased assholes. But fuck ‘em, We’re Iowa.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
I'm illiterate.
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
by BentNotBroken on Feb 3, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
Perhaps you should try our friends at Cyclone Fanatic then
They will make you feel like Hemingway.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
The words illiterate and Hemingway do not compute for CFers
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
You're right
They’ve got more than 5 letters.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2011 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
Well played PITS
Living in DSM I need not surf to CF. I just discuss sports with some of my clone co-workers, pretty comical. Their reaction to DJK’s deferred judgment was almost as glorious as beating Mizzo.
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
by BentNotBroken on Feb 3, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
It all comes back to the 5 years in a row they beat us
Or how they’re better morally. Or how we don’t live up to expectations. But ignore the fact they can’t go to bowls, they were dominated through the 80s and 90s by us AND how our underachieving seasons are still better than their best seasons.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2011 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
Indeed. Haters gonna Hate
Taking their annual game with Nebraska was an unexpected piece of awesomeness that until 2010 never entered my thought process. B1G expansion created a new dynamic in the Hawkeye state.
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
by BentNotBroken on Feb 3, 2011 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
Zach Galifianakis has a brilliant bit regarding illiteracy.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2011 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
HOLY SHIT
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
Pretentious Illiterate
is the screen name I should have used :(
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
by BentNotBroken on Feb 3, 2011 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
Looks like you've been smoking too much Herb Grigsby
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2011 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
Figured that's where you were going.
That was one of his first bits, I think might be 15 years old now.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2011 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
By the way must every fucking thread derail into endless bitching about ESPN being mean?
It is kind of tiresome. I’d rather just talk about football.
wow
That’s kinda a low blow for saying something I kinda agree with. That dude was a douche, NorseHawk was simply saying that we need to get over the bashing of ESPN that’s taken up half the comments on this article
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Feb 3, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
Wow. I wish I'd made it down here on the thread earlier. I only ever made it halfway through while at work.
Now I understand why you and Mexi and Ross were getting on me.
Really. My fault.
I’m on record as not enjoying the entity that claims to be tWWL, but I’ll stop beating that dead horse. Just venting really.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 9:50 PM CST up reply actions
It might have been a low blow
but the thing that I have learned over this last week at BHGP is that no matter what the article is about people will get completely off topic.
Yes
But there is an entire Fanpost right now dedicated to bashing Forde and ESPN. If that didn’t exist and if we hadn’t been bashing ESPN on almost every article for the past week then it would be a different story. That is my, and I suspect NorseHawk’s, point.
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Feb 3, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
All Stanzi All the Time avoided any discussion of ESPN.
by PackerHawk on Feb 3, 2011 2:22 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Absolutely true.
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Feb 3, 2011 5:54 PM CST up reply actions
That was the only thing it avoided discussing
because I believe every other topic in the history of mankind made an appearance there.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I don't believe carnies were discussed.
+1 to me.
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Feb 3, 2011 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
Giving yourself points...
Is that like pleasuring yourself?
/Stanzi-thread’d
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Feb 3, 2011 9:10 PM CST up reply actions
Carnie-Stanzi Photoshop Thread anyone?
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
Stanzi doesn't like carnies.
Discuss.
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Feb 3, 2011 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
It's not that he hates carnies, per se
it is that he has an incredibly intense, negative visceral reaction to the smell of cabbage. And he fears small hands, it’s why he and Klug were never that close.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Back to the topic at hand.
Andy Hamilton reporting that Iowa is out. HC Bill McGregor confirms that it’ll be Auburn or Bama.
Hmm..
His father’s words hold more validity to me, but I never thought we really had a realistic chance anyway.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
Anything involving a foam scimitar
should be withheld. Just use it for Rodney “Sinbad” Coe.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2011 2:23 PM CST up reply actions
Andy's update was 20 minutes old when I posted it.
I’m sure he was following up on JC Kouandjio’s statement. I’d love to believe that Iowa still has a chance, but I just can’t see it.
by The Mexican't on Feb 3, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
No need to abbreviate Jean Claude
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2011 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
So we're back to where we were yesterday morning, but with "New Mexico" replaced by "Iowa"
His HC said Bama and Auburn, but his dad said NM was still in the running, IIRC. It’s so confusing….
It matters not
besides, I’d be more convinced by wherever Nico Law says he’s going.
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Feb 3, 2011 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
This is just a ploy
before he commits to Eastern Michigan. You heard it here first.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 3, 2011 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
Interesting story from our frenemies at the Worldwide Leader
Recruit’s mom forges his signature and sends it to the wrong school
I would not recommend clicking on the video portion at the top, it appears to have Skip Bayless involved.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
I retract all earlier statements made not liking alabama
Their blog won me over. i am now on the side of “eh, there alright”
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 3, 2011 3:29 PM CST reply actions
Their coach is a dickrag.
But I know several Tide fans, and some are great friends of mine. Rather maniacal at times, but on the whole their good people.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2011 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
Jesus, I need to proofread.
they’re*
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Feb 3, 2011 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, i always assumed that because they had a dick of a coach the fans would be dicks too
book by its cover and all that, im ashamed
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 3, 2011 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
that's a national-championship-winning dick/dickrag/(insert your insult of choice here)
so we suffer our cross to bear and find a way to get through it.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
Touche
and he did lead your team to destroy Michigan State and Penn State, why that was something i haven’t seen since…..Iowa did it in the same year :P
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 3, 2011 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
So, a national title was the excuse for Saban.
What was the excuse(s) for DuBose, Franchione, and Price?
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 3, 2011 10:23 PM CST up reply actions
So you mean they're not all like
NSFW
by DJK's bongwater on Feb 3, 2011 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
Props for the Natty Light
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2011 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
dunno
some drunk irish guy used to use it all the time so it seemed pretty cool.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
REminds me of Cartman trying to become a NASCAR driver
Fuckin’ pisses me off!!!
by Hank Thrasher on Feb 3, 2011 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
"He has two fractured ribs, a broken femur, torn ligaments in both knees and a level two concussion. He also appears to be developing three small vaginas in his stomach, but they are all sparkling clean."
by DJK's bongwater on Feb 3, 2011 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
That was a funny line that should be noticed
nice work for a Bamar.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 3, 2011 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
it seems the snow is falling all over iowa like it was over ireland.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
A friend of mine is a former Alabama player
I would definitely second the “maniacal” bit. Craziest fucker I’ve ever known, but also one of the nicest.
Brunettes not fighter jets
Ya know, i get the feeling he secretly wants to go to either Iowa or New Mexico
but is being pressured to pick between Auburn or Alabama. otherwise, i dont see why he would wait this long to announce. my guess is he wants to go to New Mexico to be honest, but his family doesnt want him to go there.
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 3, 2011 10:00 PM CST reply actions
Did you really just think that thought long enough to write it down?
(I guess you could be right. I don’t know the kid.)
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 3, 2011 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
..........what?
did i just think a thought that i wrote down? huh? what? i dunno?
it doesn’t seem unreasonable if that’s what your getting at
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 4, 2011 1:37 AM CST up reply actions
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
Brunettes not fighter jets
Fuck you, dude, I just spent like five minutes trying to decipher that.
I thought it was just Bilingual Brain hitting me again, where I can’t remember simple English.
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Feb 4, 2011 8:48 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Who did he tell you that for?
That’s a personal favorite of mine.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 4, 2011 9:17 AM CST up reply actions
I think you used one too many prepositions.
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Feb 4, 2011 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
The meltdown on Bama boards would be epic!
I’d pay to watch it…
The kid is not coming to Iowa
his second thoughts appear to be that he did not want to be in a rivalry game against his brother. On the surface, that would seem to suggest Iowa has a shot, but I have read too many things (even this morning) directly quoting him saying he has no great interest in Iowa City, the lifestyle, the weather, etc. He just likes the program/coaches/players and that does not seem to be his entire focus. Which is understandable, college is for many the most memorable four/five years of your life. His future in the NFL does not hinge on Bama, Auburn or Iowa. But his social life and happiness absolutely do. So, I think Bama back doors this thing. I think he feels like he wants his family making one trip on Saturdays. He seems less confident than his brother…and that further suggests he will ride those coattails.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
college is for many the most memorable four/five years of your life.
Or 6… or 7 years…
“You know, a lot of people go to college for 7 years.”
“I know, they’re called doctors”
by DJK's bongwater on Feb 4, 2011 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
Not coming
Today at noon
“He still has not made a decision,” McGregor said. “I spoke to Cyrus this morning. He says that he will make one soon, but I don’t know exactly what soon means, to tell the truth.” The coach said Iowa and New Mexico have been eliminated as possible choices for the 6-foot-7, 322-pound offensive tackle
Shit, who knows at thispoint. Maybe tomorrow USC will be a finalist and when he finds out that they are on probation he will then go to Miami.
Henderson’d
"I don't believe in quotes" - Karl Klug
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