Iowa: the Purdue of Big Ten football

"When you look at the cross-divisional games, Ohio State-Michigan makes sense, Penn State-Nebraska makes sense, and Iowa-Purdue probably doesn't. But they're two conference schools that, when you look at it, are very close together."

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I'm not really sure what he was trying to explain there

does he mean we were close geographically or competitively? I know we kind of just chalked it up to Purdue and Iowa being the only two left and we were thrown together. It almost sounds like he is hinting that that is pretty much what happened.

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by ninerhawk on Feb 25, 2011 8:15 AM CST reply actions

I read it as they looked at all kinds of data and determined that we were close competitively.

Which historically may or may not be accurate. I don’t think OMHR has quite the same number of bowl wins/appearances that we do, but that’s without actually doing the research.

by Swarley on Feb 25, 2011 8:48 AM CST up reply actions

They don't

but OMHR wasn’t nearly as bad as we were during the 1960s and 70s. Iowa’s bowl appearance stat is somewhat skewed additionally by the fact that until the late 70s, only one Big Ten team could go to a bowl in any given season. It is coincidental that Iowa’s rise from the ashes took place at the exact same time as the number of bowls exploded, a coincidence that has been much to our benefit over the years.

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by HoyaGoon on Feb 25, 2011 9:12 AM CST up reply actions

They only took Post Penn State into account.

by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Feb 27, 2011 8:12 AM CST up reply actions

Well, we have 2 big ten titles (or shares) since then.

And Purdue has one. We are 1-1 in BCS bowls in that time, and they are 0-1. I’m not going to look up overall wins, but I’d guess we are slightly ahead.

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by WaterlooChazz on Feb 27, 2011 8:05 PM CST up reply actions

Last year Alvarez talked about achieving parity between divisions using the last 20-30 years as a metric

He said that PSU, OSU, Mich, and Nebraska formed the top tier, followed by Iowa and WI in Tier 2. The rest were the rest. So it seems at least one AD views Iowa as on par with Wisconsin.

As far as the competitive equality I just don’t see it. I think that MSU-IN and IA-Purdue were pairings of convenience. WI-Minn is nowhere close to competitive equality over the last quarter century and neither is MSU-IN. IA-PU is roughly equal since PSU joined the conference, but I don’t buy the competitive equality in terms of protected rivals. I can see it with the overall divisions, but I don’t see it in half of the protected rivalries. Maybe he just didn’t want to say "well, you know what we obviously wanted to protect WI-MN and then we just flipped a coin to decide which Indiana school got MSU and which one got Iowa (not that’s what I think they did, but the pairings involving IU and PU are odd, imo).

by PackerHawk on Feb 27, 2011 11:43 PM CST up reply actions

I wonder if having Purdue be OMHR...

Wasn’t the pound of flesh to get Nebraska for the last game of the season. Take a near certain win for a made up rivalry game, and pick up an instant border war that both fan bases have wanted for ages? No brainer for Barta and Ferentz, IMHO.

by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Feb 28, 2011 6:37 AM CST up reply actions

I would argue that Iowa is more like the Iowa of B1G football.

Seriously, why doesn’t he just come out and say “We stuck them together because they were the last ones left and we didn’t have any other options.” Everyone knows that’s what happened. There is no other logical reason to put us and OMHR as rivals.

by DJK's bongwater on Feb 25, 2011 12:21 PM CST reply actions

Black & Old Gold.

Those are the only two reasons.

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by therealCatnuts on Feb 25, 2011 1:09 PM CST up reply actions

We're like the unpopular kids in high school

While all the cool kids get their designer parties that everyone wants to go to, we just proudly have our own party in our parents’ basement playing Mario Kart on the ’64.
/Speaking from experience.

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by Pain in the Sash on Feb 25, 2011 1:37 PM CST up reply actions

The 64 rocked for multiplayer

Mario Kart, Goldeneye, Bomberman. The new generation of multiplayer has passed me by, too complicated and involved. Or maybe it’s just that I’m no longer 14-24 years old and video games in general are supposed to pass me by.

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by therealCatnuts on Feb 25, 2011 1:52 PM CST up reply actions

Oh yeah no doubt

I’m only 20 and all of my friends at home have a PS3 or 360 but every time we’re all home it’s Mario Kart or Smash Brothers in my buddy’s basement. Still can play for 5 hours on 64 but we all get bored trying to play multi on the new systems.

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by Pain in the Sash on Feb 25, 2011 2:00 PM CST up reply actions

Im sorry, are we talking about video games?

Because if we are, then the Halo series takes the cake. End of story.

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by iamalex13 on Feb 27, 2011 11:15 PM CST up reply actions

I think it's an age bracket thing.

Halo is too complicated for my old thumbs

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by therealCatnuts on Feb 27, 2011 11:24 PM CST up reply actions

I hate Halo

But I’m also a Sony guy. NCAA Football is about the only game I buy.

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by Pain in the Sash on Feb 27, 2011 11:45 PM CST up reply actions

Zelda, Goldeneye, and Mario Kart

are by far the greatest games for that console and dare I say all time. I remember spending entire weekends playing those games and enjoying every frustrating minute of it.

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by ninerhawk on Feb 25, 2011 2:27 PM CST up reply actions

The wrestling games were great for N64 also.

WCW/NWO Revenge, and WWF Wrestlemania 2000 and WWF No Mercy were all really good, and awesome to play with up to 3 other friends. If there is a criticism of them, it is that they were all very similar (I think these games used the same “engine.”)

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by WaterlooChazz on Feb 27, 2011 8:09 PM CST up reply actions

Add Starfox and maybe Super Smash Bros.

And you’d have my vote

by Black&Gold.Forever on Mar 3, 2011 11:36 AM CST up reply actions

I would say we're more like the 3rd wheel

We’ve been best friends of a couple since sophomore, but they’ve been together since freshman year.

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by ClaybornSmash on Feb 25, 2011 4:04 PM CST up reply actions

Ummm...excuse me

They put us together because we hate each other. Obviously. You make it sound like OMHR is some sort of made up phrase, and I for one, am shocked and appalled at that.

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Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?

by chitownhawkeye on Feb 25, 2011 8:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

It's because we have the two best greasy spoon diners in the Big Ten.

Hamburg Inn #2 (obv.) and XXX Family Restaurant.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Feb 26, 2011 12:19 PM CST up reply actions

IMO Lou Henri's > Hamburg#2

But that’s based on food not atmosphere. Hamburg definitely has the rep.

by PackerHawk on Feb 27, 2011 2:11 AM CST up reply actions

i still dont understand why they didn't pair Wisconsin and Iowa

i mean, really, do Wisconsin fans really want to whip on Minny every year for the rest of their days? i didnt realize they had that big of a rivalry.

i would think Iowa-Wisconsin and Minny-Purdue would work out better and look better on paper, the way it is it seems more like they wanted to give Iowa and Wisconsin a free win or expect those two programs to be better soon. thats fine and all, but i wanted to face Wisky personally.

by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 26, 2011 2:09 PM CST reply actions

No.

Wisco-Minny is one of the oldest rivalries in college football and it’s a big deal, trust me.

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by RossWB on Feb 26, 2011 3:01 PM CST up reply actions

Of course, Wisconsin wanted Nebraska

At least Bielema lobbied for it early on. It’s been so long since WI-MN was the season ending game, that it seems some Badger fans have gotten over the rivalry in spite of the Axe and the history. Either that or they take MN for granted and feel that they’re on par with Nebraska as a program.

by PackerHawk on Feb 27, 2011 2:13 AM CST up reply actions