It's Not Plagiarism If You Link To It Is Still Talking DJK
DJK DJK DJK. While members of the football team were in Carver-Hawkeye on Sunday to be recognized for their stirring Insight Bowl win, one former member of the team was there too -- one Derrell Johnson-Koulianos. In the aftermath, there's been a relative torrent of DJK interviews. KGAN did a video one-on-one (auto-play; the link also provides a full-text transcript, too), and there's another one with the Gazoo:
When asked about that apparently strained relationship, Johnson-Koulianos agreed that it was rocky …"My entire career. He’s an old school coach, and it was me being me. I credit myself for our terrible relationship."
Was his dismissal from the squad justified? "Yeah, yeah, allowing something like that to happen, you don’t deserve to wear the Hawkeye."
Here and elsewhere DJK takes full responsibility for his actions, particularly those that led to his December arrest, and seem genuinely remorseful; it's damn hard not to root for him to get a second chance, frankly. In the Gazoo article, he notes that he's still hoping to be included in Iowa's Pro Day event and it would be great to see that happen. He fucked up, but he's paying the consequences and taking responsibility for that fuck-up. But even if he isn't included in the Iowa Pro Day festivities, I hope can kind a forum somewhere to show off his talents for NFL scouts and that he gets drafted by a team. There haven't been many more Hawkeyes that were more fun to watch than DJK over the years.
Your obligatory reminder that Dan Gable is the fucking man. Things from Iowa that are awesome: Templeton Rye whiskey, Casey's pizza, the tigerhawk, and Dan Gable. If you need a reason why:
Gable coached 21 years at Iowa and won 15 national championships, going 21-for-21 in Big Ten titles. That is even outdoing John Wooden. He went 182-1 as a high school and college wrestler, losing his last match. And in the Cold War days of the 1972 Olympics, when the Soviet Union wrestling machine made him the enemy of the state and target No. 1, he won the gold medal and did not give up a single point. Take that, Comrade Brezhnev.
"Nothing like having a country vow to beat you," Gable says, 39 years later.
My bad, that's just why he's the greatest coach any team in Iowa has ever known. And I say that as someone with deep respect for the accomplishments of Howard Jones, Forest Evashevski, Hayden Fry, Kirk Ferentz, Lute Olsen, and Tom Davis (and, hell, Johnny Orr if we feel like being nice to our neighbors). Get back to me when they create a dynasty on par with what he did with Iowa wrestling. It's absolutely astonishing.
But for as incredible an athlete as Gable was and as remarkable a coach as he was -- and let's be clear, there are few men who can match his accomplishments in those regards -- he might be even more amazing as a representative for his sport and just as a representative of his state.
He hopes his story can help revive wrestling at large. He wants to find ways that training and fitness can fight disease and depression. The man who has spent a lifetime on the mat is looking for something beyond. He mentions Norman Borlaug, a Nobel Peace Prize winner who developed heartier wheat to counter world hunger.
"The guy was from Cresco, Iowa, and he was a wrestler. For me, that's who I look up to."
Calling Dan Gable "one hell of a guy" seems awfully trite and a poor way of describing the man, but sometimes words simply fail.
Back in the saddle. A bit more good news in the wake of Rhabdogate: all thirteen players are expected to be healthy and able to participate in spring practice next month:
The 13 Iowa football players hospitalized for a muscle disorder following grueling offseason workouts are expected to participate in spring practice next month.
Hooray for that. There was some concern that the fallout from Rhabdogate could be lifelong kidney problems, but -- so far -- that doesn't seem to be the case, which is excellent news.
WASABI! Like most coaches shows, Fran McCaffery's HawkTalk radio show is usually pretty dry -- except when he flat-out expressed his preference for Melsahn Basabe over Aaron Fuller:
"He’s (Basabe) a better player than Fuller," McCaffery.
Granted, that statement isn't really that surprising since (a) Basabe is here and Fuller is not and (b) Basabe has comparable (or better) stats as a true freshman in a deeper Big Ten to those that Fuller put up as a sophomore. Frankly, I'd be happy to take both, but if you forced me to pick one (and stop being such a jerk and forcing me to do stuff, okay?), I'd stand by Fran and proclaim my love for Wasabi, too. And it's always nice (if surprising) when a coach expresses a firm opinion rather than just defaulting to coachspeak double-talk.
Something for the ladies. Fresh off their incredible comeback win (they scored sixty-three points in the second half alone) against Northwestern in Evanston (proof that at least one Iowa team can win in that fetid hellhole; although the wrestling team also won there, but they also win pretty much everywhere), the lady hoopyballers are back in action tomorrow night, taking on a resurgent Wisconsin team (9-3 in Big Ten play, but just 14-10 overall; that non-conference slate must have been a doozy) and aiming for their 20th win of the season. That would make four straight years of 20 or more wins, which is a mighty nice accomplishment, even if it doesn't necessarily guarantee an NCAA berth:
"Twenty still has a good ring to it," Bluder said Tuesday at her weekly press conference. "It used to be, once you got to 20, you were in the NCAA, but that doesn’t hold true as much. I think it’s still a big deal to the media and to fans."
ESPN's latest bracketology has Iowa as a 5-seed in the Spokane region, so they're still sitting in a good position to still make the tourney. A few more wins to improve that seeding would be nice, though.
Whose NU will rule? Speaking of Northwestern, our FOTP Adam Rittenberg posted recently about the "great" debate between fans of Northwestern and incoming Big Ten member Nebraska about who will get to use the "NU" moniker. Leaving aside that two other long-time members of the league have -- shockingly! -- been able to get by just fine despite sharing a two-letter moniker (that would be Iowa and Illinois, if you're feeling alphabetically challenged), BHGP Consulting is happy to offer a solution. In fact, it's one that we've been using for Northwestern since long before Expansionpalooza was even a twinkle in Jim Delany's beady little eyes. We're speaking, of course, of "jNW." It's simple, it's effective, and it clearly delineates the Armani-clad jag-offs from the "world's greatest fans" pompous, red-faced assholes. Plus, how great would it be to see "jNW" on the ESPN Bottom Line? Pretty damn great is right.
BANK SHOTZ
* If you're not listening to the "On Iowa" podcast by FOTP Mas Casa and Scott Dochterman, you really should be, especially since they're now outsourcing their theme music duties to the dulcet tones of one Mr. Patrick Vint.
* Speaking of Mas Casa, if you're still craving more "Caring is Creepy" news, he has a very handy one-stop shop for all kinds of information about the 2011 Iowa football recruiting class. Make with the clicky.
* Yet another Indiana assistant football coach has left before even coaching a game (this makes four, total) for the Hoosiers upon learning that, yes, he really would have to live in Bloomington.
* EEEE NEW RADIOHEAD THIS SATURDAY EEEEE. Based on the title and the weird cover imagery, I think it's safe to say it's their long-planned concept album about a regal jellyfish.
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Seriously, if you haven't checked out Morehouse's "Ferentz On" series, it's time to head that way.
It’s awesome. And I believe he just consolidated the last three years into one post.
Link?
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Feb 15, 2011 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
Here ya go.
via Orion Mas Casa (Marc Morehouse)
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Feb 15, 2011 6:33 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks!
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Feb 15, 2011 6:39 PM CST up reply actions
It's also linked in the "Bank Shotz" section.
I was just reiterating the sentiment.
by The Mexican't on Feb 15, 2011 6:57 PM CST up reply actions
me too
"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands
It's amazing if you read some of the comments (especially on KCRG) on the DJK interviews
how many people think he’s throwing Kirk under the bus, not taking responsibility for his actions, and just not being genuine. I don’t think they have any reading comprehension ability as he totally blames himself for everything.
by HawkgirlSTL on Feb 16, 2011 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
KCRG is great if you want high blood pressure,
or if you want just feel general embarrassment for other people and the things they get worked up about.
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Feb 16, 2011 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
I have to admit, I was kind of wondering a bit when I read:
"I was just kind of in a situation I shouldn’t have been in, allowing the wrong people into my life."
…
Many have questioned why Johnson-Koulianos would reside with a suspected drug dealer.
"It was kind of a surprise to me just like everyone else," he said. "I still don’t know until it’s proven."
While he’s been very apologetic, yet I kind of wonder about how much he is really owning this. Especially in light of the possibility that he had multiple substances in his system (but if that is complete horsesh!t, then I guess I’d have to rethink my opinion).
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 16, 2011 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
He admitted to doing both coke and marijuana.
But he’s never blamed anyone for the issue, and has admitted that the fault is his and his alone.
by The Mexican't on Feb 16, 2011 5:29 PM CST up reply actions
In the quote you question, he isn't even talking about himself or football in any way.
So what do you question?
He’s talking about a friend/roommate who is looking at going away for a long time. That quote just seems like he’s trying not to convict his friend before the trial (where he will likely be convicted anyway).
The DA or whatever will have plenty of ammo, there’s no need to add DJK saying “Aw, yeah man, he was selling aderol like they were Pez and he kept a line of coke in the doorway to mark the threshold” in statewide media before a jury is even selected.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 17, 2011 9:43 AM CST up reply actions
Okay "in any way" was the wrong wording.
But he wasn’t really talking about himself, just his surprise in reference to something that was not about himself.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 17, 2011 9:44 AM CST up reply actions
I guess I don't really expect him to talk about it publicly.
But don’t act like it was some giant surprise. They both had plenty of drugs in their rooms, I’m sure it was not a surprise to each that one was selling and one was an athlete who was using.
Finally, you know who gets to choose to let people in your life? YOU DO! So, if you’re living with a drug dealer, you know who gets at least some of the blame for that situation? YOU DO!
/and I know I’m the only one who feels this way around here. I wish DRUGS was here with a quip to lighten this joint up. LOL.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 17, 2011 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
Gable:
“I wrestle my wife. I’m not undefeated there.”
That is Stanzithreadesque.
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
I think his grandsons will be holy terrors
"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands
Hopefully they're holy terrors in Iowa singlets.
Although, man, what a legacy to live up to…
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
From the sound of Gable at the broadcast
Iowa may just have to make room for a female D1 wrestler. Apparently Brands’s daughter is learning to hold her own in the Brand household. Gable’s choice of words was a bit poor, but the message was there.
by The Mexican't on Feb 15, 2011 9:12 PM CST up reply actions
By the way,
there are two girls wrestling at the Iowa state tournament this year. I don’t want to be discriminatory, but I also know I’d be super-embarrassed if I was a guy and lost to one of them.
For some reason, I wasn’t as embarrassed (yet still somewhat embarrassed) by my 5th grade performance at heavyweight: Pinned every match, and only made it to the second period once.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 15, 2011 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
You are not alone.
I wrestled two exhibition matches my junior year of HS. Exhibition meaning I didn’t make weight; I was a pretty good football player and so the wrestling coach tried to turn me into his heavyweight, but I never got down to less than 280. I got pinned both matches. Of course, that was before I had contact lenses and I was trying to wrestle without glasses on (my vision is horrible). It’s not exactly trying to hit a baseball without glasses on, but wrestling’s still a sport where vision’s helpful.
"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."
by SomeJerkPoster on Feb 15, 2011 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
How bad? I'm a -12 in each eye.
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Feb 16, 2011 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
That's pretty bad.
I was a -8.75 and -9.75 and Lasik got me to 20/15 and 20/30. God bless Lasik. Haven’t worn glasses or contacts for 10 years now and I’m still about 20/30 overall.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 16, 2011 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
Like a -11 now. Probably -8 back then.
"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."
by SomeJerkPoster on Feb 17, 2011 12:23 AM CST up reply actions
I hope they both are state champs.
Wrestling’s not about strength.
And I love it when some guy’s (or some institution’s) hyper-macho house of cards comes crashing down.
"....All drugs should be legal. War is wrong. The rich get richer. The poor get poorer. Thank you. I'll be here all week." ~ Bill Hicks
by Bucketochicken on Feb 16, 2011 6:08 AM CST up reply actions
It is quite a bit about strength
with weight cutting, it is difficult for a girl to be anywhere near as strong at a weight as a guy. I don’t think both will win state. One of the girls was pinned in the district tournament.
"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands
Well one lost yesterday, and one won.
That is such a weak-sauce excuse.
It’s a “combat sport” that she chooses to engage in. It’s not like he’d be punching her in the face, and even if he was, she signed up for it and earned her way to State (I’d guess she can handle a little combat).
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 17, 2011 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think it is about what she is okay with
I don’t see any reason to denigrate his reasons not to wrestle. The kid knows the consequences and made his decision. He doesn’t feel comfortable wrestling a girl and shouldn’t be made to.
"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands
My real issue is that he's still alive in the conso bracket
Whatever your reasons, if you choose not to wrestle your first round opponent, I don’t think you should get to continue in the tournament at all.
I'm not sure why such a rule would be made or enforced
A loss is a loss, we should leave it at that. Cedar Falls benefits from added team points.
Just as it is legitimate for girls to participate in wrestling, it is also legitimate to acknowledge that it raises difficult issues for some people. I don’t think it is appropriate or constructive to excessively punish a high school kid because he is not wholly comfortable wrestling a girl.
"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands
I don't care about wrestling a girl in this case
I look at it as if you don’t have to competitive spirit to take on whatever opponent is thrown at you, you don’t deserve to continue on in a state tournament in any sport. It’s one thing to lose, it’s another to refuse to compete.
To me a loss isn’t a loss in all cases. Refusal to compete because of a characteristic of an opponent should be a forfeiture of your privilege to advance in this or any other tournament. If he was refusing to wrestle a black opponent, a gay opponent, or any other demographic group because of his beliefs, I would feel the same way.
Also, excessive punishment? If he really wanted to compete for a state title, he shouldn’t forfeit matches along the way because he’s uncomfortable with his opponent. I don’t think it’s excessive at all. You tackle the opponent in front of you or you don’t advance.
This
Refusal to compete because of a characteristic of an opponent should be a forfeiture of your privilege to advance in this or any other tournament. If he was refusing to wrestle a black opponent, a gay opponent, or any other demographic group because of his beliefs, I would feel the same way.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 17, 2011 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think it is appropriate
to excoriate this kid. Be careful not to project social issues onto the decisions of high school athletes.
I don’t agree with his decision, but I won’t question his competitive spirit. Wrestling is a very physical and a very demanding sport, Northrup has been pretty successful (that doesn’t indicate a lack of competitive spirit).
As far as his being kicked out of tournament, that is not the rule as it currently stands for a default. He made his decision, one that I don’t agree with, but one that he has paid for under the current rules.
"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands
Northrup probably would have beaten her.
Personally, I’d be quite uncomfortable wrestling a girl. And very embarrassed if I lost to her (although, I don’t really think that is the case here.)
If we are going to let ladies wrestle, give them their own tourney or bracket at this tourney. We don’t have many true sports where boys compete against girls. I don’t know why we had to start with the one that may be most reliant on strength.
/super-sexist, I know.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 17, 2011 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
PackerHawk
I understand your point and I certainly agree that Northrup should have wrestled the match. I don’t think your distinction on the reason for the default is realistically enforceable when a kid could still claim some minor injury default and may be permitted to continue. On the flip side, I don’t think it would be fair to disqualify any athlete that claims a default just to satisfy this one possibility.
"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands
Fair enough. If you said you couldn’t default because of your personal beliefs it would just mean that people would probably claim an injury to skirt the rules. I understand the pragmatic problems with enforcing such a rule.
I’m not questioning his overall competitive spirit, he’s gotten this far with it. It just rubs me the wrong way that he can skip this opponent for his beliefs and still get to continue, and that opinion won’t change. I am glad that he didn’t try to claim an injury, at least he had the courage and conviction to stand up for his beliefs. But that doesn’t mean I’m not going to root against him in the coming rounds.
I appreciate that sentiment
"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands
Thanks
Also, just got Consilience from the library. I’ll be starting it as soon as I finish Annie Proulx’s memoir. Very interested in it, thanks for the rec.
I wanted to get The Ants for my Kindle
but it’s $97. Seriously. Guess I’ll have to find a library if I want to read it.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 18, 2011 6:56 PM CST up reply actions
You might want one of those wheeled backpacks with the telescoping handle
Because it weighs about 90#. I looked at it, picked it up, saw Journey to the Ants next to it, and decided to go that route.
The Ants?
An entire text devoted to ants? That is simply… amazing.
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Feb 18, 2011 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
If you don't know about slave-making
ants, you are missing out.
"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands
Interesting choice of where to end your header and start the body of the post.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Feb 18, 2011 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
I like to keep things interest-
ing
"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands
No problem, hope you like it
Are you guys into reading stuff by biologists? If you haven’t checked him out before, Stephen J. Gould is a pretty good read as well.
It is interesting because there is a group of biologists that have really transcended their “scientific” fame and have become popular spokespeople for the biological sciences.
"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands
Not usually into stuff by biologists just because it can be way out of my knowledge base
I’m a sociologist by education and really get into the sociology of science, the how and why fields go in the directions they do, etc.
The Ants appeals to me as the sociology of animals, but it seemed a little too biology dense for me. Of course that was on quick perusal in the stacks, I may feel differently after reading the companion piece I picked up.
The sociobiology stuff
that Wilson wrote, was trying to adapt what he had learned in ants to define a new theory on the evolution of behavior. It was/is very controversial.
"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands
Agreed. She wants to compete, give her a little action
I’m Christian, and I have no problem pinning a woman. Although I prefer to do it in the bed…
by DJK's bongwater on Feb 17, 2011 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
The Ottumwa girl is out I believe
pinned twice (both today)
"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands
Well, you know that AC Slater was offered a full scholarship to Iowa but he turned us down for Cal U.
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Feb 16, 2011 8:55 AM CST up reply actions
Also, Riley from Buffy was from Iowa.
And there is an episode called Goodbye, Iowa.
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Feb 16, 2011 8:56 AM CST up reply actions
And Kate from Lost is from Iowa and Cedar Rapids gets a shout out in a flashback episode.
My name is SEG and I will be here for all of your TV-Iowa related trivia.
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Feb 16, 2011 8:57 AM CST up reply actions
And the one resident from Grey's Anatomy
Wasn’t he a wrestler at Iowa before going to med school here?
Yes, Alex
I watched one season of that and that was the only thing I remember
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Feb 16, 2011 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
If we are going to reference Patrick Dempsey shows
you have to include Can’t Buy Me Love. Bobby, Cindy’s boyfriend, played football at Iowa.
by Carfino'sWay on Feb 16, 2011 6:57 PM CST up reply actions
I think he turned down Iowa because the coach that recruited him was Jack Trainer, not Dan Gable.
by Carfino'sWay on Feb 16, 2011 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
No
He turned down Iowa because he got Zach’s lil’ sister pregnant and needed to stay cloes to her to take care of their loved child!
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
The mullet wins again
"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands
It will probably happen sooner or later.
Which will certainly be interesting.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Gable. the original Stanzi
except tougher, and more american
by justsomehawkeyefan on Feb 15, 2011 6:28 PM CST reply actions
More American?
You bite your tongue sir!
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
by Brock8144 on Feb 15, 2011 7:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You will have to bite yours
at the world championships the Russians scoured their country to find a guy that could beat Gable (he was the main target). Gable punished their Siberian champ so bad that they guy quite the match just to make the beating stop. Gable is an OG.
"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands
Correct
Major Harris stole Cam Newton's lunch money.
by ReadingRambler on Feb 16, 2011 8:06 AM CST up reply actions
JoePa is an OH
Original Human, dude is like Mumrah. Love him though.
Battles are won with a hammer, wars are won with a scalpel
I thought JoePa was older than that
I read somewhere he was against the invention of dirt, rumor probably. :)
That would explain why he hates "dirty" Spaniards, Asians, and Irish.
Or was it just Spaniards?
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 16, 2011 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
Paterno
still holds a grudge against the Parthians and don’t even get him started on Mithridates
"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands
The 2012 prediction isn't about the end of the Earth. It is when JoePa will finally die. The Mayans revered him as Father Earth. And as such, when he dies, their "World" ends
Pretty cool. I wish I had a death proficy. I just get death threats, people wishing for my death, and the occasional “when will he be murdered by nuns” March Madness-style pool.
Battles are won with a hammer, wars are won with a scalpel
He thought dirt covering the rocks would turn his players into wimps.
“Three yards and a cloud of gravel” was the original saying.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 17, 2011 9:48 AM CST up reply actions
quit the match
"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands
Don't worry
It was a joke.
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
by Brock8144 on Feb 15, 2011 8:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Like Northwestern has a chance in any debate against Nebraska
I’m sure ESPN would go with NW for Northwestern and NU for Nebraska, because nobody really cares about jNW’s feelings.
Or go with Neb for Nebraska
As I sometimes see in the crawl now.
by PackerHawk on Feb 16, 2011 7:19 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
actually jNW has a great shot in a debate
Not so much in a sporting event, or poll of public opinion.
You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 16, 2011 7:19 AM CST up reply actions
Around Omaha, people appropriately refer to University of Nebraska at Lincoln as UNL when discussing anything but sports
The school is not named Nebraska University.
Well, isn't what LeBron did last night the living embodiment of The Secret, leaving millions on the table and turning himself into a hometown villain, all for the sake of winning?
Neil Paine, basketball-reference.com
you should edit that to say
Nobody cares about jNW except for the media, because they all went to school there.
I actually like the idea of letting Northwestern keep "NU" since, you know, that's actually what their initials are.
Plus, it would amuse me to make Nebraska not just go by “UN” but rather “UNL”.
Fan 1: “We’ve got Nebraska this weekend”
Fan 2: “Nebraska-Omaha or Nebraska-Lincoln?”
Fan 1: “Nebraska has two cities?!?”
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Feb 15, 2011 7:18 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
Or Scottsbluff.
There used to be a bar there, with a sweet young thing that wore a yellow sun dress…
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Feb 15, 2011 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
Or Blair
Home of the new-defunct Dana College.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Blair.
What’s the name of the New York themed bar there on 30 through town? Always struck me as absurdly out of place.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Feb 15, 2011 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
I like Scottsbluff
Had an Aunt and Uncle lived out there. Always thought it was a neat town. Much better than anything found in the rest of Western Nebraska.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
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by Pain in the Sash on Feb 15, 2011 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
North Platte is angry that you all forgot about it.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 15, 2011 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
NP isn't bad
But I’m talking like Butthole Nebraska. It’s like Scottsbluff is the one ass hair that doesn’t have a dingleberry on it.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 15, 2011 9:30 PM CST up reply actions
hah!!!
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
They dont make UW-Madison use anything other than UW
So don’t hold your breath on that
by PackerHawk on Feb 16, 2011 7:21 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
How often do people in Wisconsin say they attend UW-M?
I think UN-L is actually fairly common and the Huskers probably wouldn’t mind if they had to use the L
by The Mexican't on Feb 16, 2011 7:32 AM CST up reply actions
No, people in Wisconsin refer to the campus they attended by its post hyphen location
They went to Madison, Milwaukee, Platteville, Stout, etc. In fact, UWM actually tends to mean Milwaukee.
I have been using UNL since Expansionpalooza made UNL official.
Besides Rittenberg won’t use NW because Northwestern is one word not two, he addressed that a while back. Therefore, sadly I don’t think he will use jNW either, though it would be super if he would.
by Carfino'sWay on Feb 16, 2011 7:54 AM CST up reply actions
I think Rittenberg is a graduate of jNW too. So, I’m pretty sure that won’t happen. In no way do I mean to imply that he is other than fair, though. How he puts up with the regular commenters though, I’ll never know. Very occasionally, I’ll look at the comments, followed by immense regret in approximately .02 seconds.
Rittenberg, like approximately half the sports media, is a graduate of jNW.
The other half graduated from Mizzou.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
From the article about IU football assistants bolting:
“[Jemal Singleton is] the fourth coach hired by Wilson who has left for a different job. Offensive coordinator Brent Pease went back to Boise State, while defensive tackles coach Jerry Montgomery bolted for Michigan and cornerbacks coach Corey Raymond left for Nebraska. "
Jerry Montgomery?
Yep.
After a couple years each as an assistant at UNI and Wyoming, Jerry returns to the Big Ten…in Maize and Blue.
And, Michigan also has Bryan Mattison’s dad, Greg, as a defensive coordinator.
Personally, I think it is nice to see Michigan taking guys with Iowa ties rather than vice versa.
http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/montgomery_jerry00.html
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
But Ross, the new Mogwai album came out today!
And it is a beast (more enjoyable than Mr. Beast, in my opinion). Samples:
Mexican Grand Prix
and
Rano Pano
"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."
Scot-rock FTW!
I love me some Mogwai.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 17, 2011 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
Dan Gable's accomplishments as a coach
are probably among the greatest in world history.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
There are some Russian coaches in hockey and wrestling that might challenge
"The challenge is the same every year. The battle is in-state. The battle is the Big 10 Conference. The battle is national. The battle is planet Earth. And if they find life out there, then the battle will be universal." -Tom Brands
Yeah, but Gable didn't cheat. I don't think many Hawk wrestlers used the roid-skys.
And no matter how much stretching in a singlet they did, the Hawks never looked like this:

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 15, 2011 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
No, but they have done a lot of looking like this

"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
by Flakbait on Feb 15, 2011 8:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
They were cheaters, forget them.
Major Harris stole Cam Newton's lunch money.
by ReadingRambler on Feb 16, 2011 8:07 AM CST up reply actions
Another way to measure coaches is their "coaching tree"
Just check out D-I wrestling and see how many are former Gable wrestlers (or assistants, J-Rob).
Gable is the man. Period. Next topic.
Life is hard. It's really hard if you're stupid.
Heh.
Stay tuned. Don’t think we’ve overlooked that.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Awesome.
I considered writing a FanPost, but I had a feeling you and Vint might be cooking something up.
Looking forward to it.
Wish I could say the same about WrestleMania.
I always thought The Rock looked cooler as a wrestler when he had hair.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 15, 2011 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
I REALLY need to start watching again
I think I woulda shit myself if I was watching that.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 15, 2011 9:10 PM CST up reply actions
The wife nearly killed me as a result of my excitement.
And probably seriously considered it when I decided that I’m very likely to be ordering Wrestlemania as a result of The Rock’s return.
by The Mexican't on Feb 15, 2011 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
So what exactly happened?
My YouTube/internet streaming is being uppity so I gave up.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 15, 2011 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
Nothing really.
He was announced as the host and did a 20 minute monologue. He used just about all of his great lines and interrupted Michael Cole’s attempt to read an email from the anonymous RAW GM. Oh and he mocked Cena.
by The Mexican't on Feb 15, 2011 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
Oh
Well it’s still probably worth watching then. The Rock is one of the best on the mics in history.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 15, 2011 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, it is.
Whether what appears to be an extended stay on the program is worth watching is anyone’s guess.
Yep.
He said something about how he’ll never be “gone from wrestling”, but I think the best we can hope for is a run-in and some interference at the end of a match from Rocky this year.
And I bet he goes back to movies within a month or 6 weeks.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 15, 2011 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
He's still in movies
Something tells me that nowadays he’s not in nearly as many as he thought he would be, hence the return.
I think he just had a break in his schedule.
He’s pretty much always spoke fondly of his time in WWE, so it’s not much of a surprise that he’d come back. As much as we mock movies like TOOTH FAIRY or GAMEPLAN, they weren’t flops. And, per IMDB, he appears to be have a few movies lined up. His film career appears to be OK.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I like the fact that he appears to be coming back for awhile (my guess is as Raw GM)
It’d probably be painful to watch him wrestle all the time after 7 years out of the ring (though he looks bigger than he used to), but he’s immediately back to being one of the, if not the, best mic guys they have.
I actually think he's leaner than he was back in his regular wrestling days.
And, yeah, I don’t think he’ll do much (if any) wrestling during this stint (whether or not he could, I’m guessing the insurance companies on his movies wouldn’t be fans of that idea), but that’s more than fine — his promos are the selling point anyway.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
No question
I would make a point to watch every week if he had a weekly segment or monologue or something. The reason I watched WWE was because of the mic guys. Then they all disappeared and didn’t let anyone else try to have a good mic presence.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 15, 2011 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
My viewing really dropped off after the great ones left:
like Austin, Rock, even Jericho was gone for awhile touring with his band.
Then, Cena and midgets took over, and I absolutely quit watching.
Another thing I disliked was breaking up the roster into different brands/shows. The great thing about Monday nights was that you could see most of the top guys on one show. Once that stopped, it was less of a draw for me.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 16, 2011 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
Yup, two shows didn't mean twice the awesome.
It meant half as much action on each show with twice as much talking.
It’s like a live action Dragon Ball Z (which I’ve always hated- – quit talking and punch someone).
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 17, 2011 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
Problem is,
for every 8 minutes of the Rock, you have to put up with equal time of Cena, or Hornswaggle, or Khali.
Why can’t we go back to the days when wrestlers were real men (not clowns), like this:

/extreme sarcasm font’d
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 15, 2011 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
Darn these whippersnappers and their new-fangled wrasslers
Give me Bobby “The Brain” Heenan, Vern Gagne , Wahoo McDaniel, and Superstar Billy Graham.
by DrHenryKillinger on Feb 16, 2011 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
Bulldog Bob Brown
That must be REALLY old school.
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
and only if you put them up against the "very capable" Kennys...
…Jay and Yates
Private Joker, he's silly and he's ignorant, but he's got guts and guts is enough. Now you ladies carry on!
by privatejoker on Feb 16, 2011 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
If you're going old school...
You might as well start talking about Classy Freddie Blassie and Lou Thesz.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
No mention of Bob Backlund?
I only remember him for his failed comeback in the early 90s, but my dad got me his autograph way back when.
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 16, 2011 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
Also
It’s probably important that as The Rock comes back we remember his best rivalry.
WAIT, WHAT?
DID HE DECIDE TO STOP MAKING CUTE KID MOVIES THAT SUCK?
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Feb 15, 2011 9:55 PM CST up reply actions
Yep, and decide to go back to making action movies that (probably) suck.
HEY
Jordana Brewster’s nice on the eyes.
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Feb 15, 2011 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
True.
Cost/benefit comes out even at absolute best, though.
What about waiting for the $1 rental at Redbox?
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Feb 15, 2011 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
If you aren't going to line up to see this movie on day one, get out
The Rock and Vin Diesel. Yes. Hell Yes, even.
There might be, what, one facial expression between the two of them?
No, that’s a little harsh, I like the Rock, I’m not saying he’s a good actor, but he can be entertaining. Vin Diesel, on the other hand, has all the acting ability of Keanu Reeves with none of the inexplicably stumbling into some decent scripts
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Feb 15, 2011 10:57 PM CST up reply actions
Pitch Black was a solid movie.
And I think D.Johnson could do well as the next big action movie star. He just has to let the kids movies go.
by The Mexican't on Feb 16, 2011 7:35 AM CST up reply actions
I enjoyed "Walking Tall."
It may have been rather trite in spots, but enjoyable none-the-less.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 16, 2011 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
How can you bring up that movie, mention Rock/Diesel
and leave out Paul Walker? It’s not like he’s a Shakespearean thespian, even compared to those guys.
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 16, 2011 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
Ouch.
Somewhere, Paul Walker is looking in your direction, trying desperately to emote.
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 16, 2011 11:03 PM CST up reply actions
Haven't you seen Meet The Deedles?
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 17, 2011 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
I'm afraid not.
I think the only non-Fast and Furious movie I saw him in was that one where he and Steve Zahn were on a road trip, and they pulled the CB prank on the trucker and then got chased for an hour and a half.
Oh wait, he was in Varsity Blues too, right?
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 17, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
Heck yes he was
Should retired right there. You don’t top taking over for Bud Kilmer and coaching your team to a dramatic come from behind victory.
For the record, I'm psyched about this movie too.
I saw all the F&F movies. I love me some car porn.
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Feb 16, 2011 11:05 PM CST up reply actions
I'm with you.
It’s all about the cars and Jordana Brewster.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Feb 17, 2011 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
I wonder if Vin's agent worked the Diesel Clause into the contract.
“Mr. Diesel must have at least one scene where he yells for, what seems to the viewers, an inappropriate reason.”
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Feb 17, 2011 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
Anyone giving props to Norman Borlaug is cool with me
Literally the greatest man who has ever lived, to say nothing of the greatest Iowan.
YES.
I had a professor from India, and he’d tell us stories about the mobile vasectomy trucks. I’m glad an Iowan thought about a different, more humane way to defuse the “population bomb.”
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 15, 2011 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
Not only that, but...
Mr. Borlaug did have the good sense to go to the best institute of higher education that I am aware of.
Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Feb 16, 2011 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
Wait, there's UI, UI and IU?
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
and two U of M's
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Feb 15, 2011 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
But only one
Ohio State.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 15, 2011 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
That much egotistical douchiness stands alone.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Does anyone else watch Onion SportsDome?
I can’t decide if I like it or not.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 15, 2011 9:32 PM CST reply actions
I gave up in the middle of the first episode when they started making fun of NFL players with brain damage. They were trying too hard to be “edgy” to realize that they have to be funny too.
That was an unpleasant segment, but they've actually gotten much better.
Still a little hit or miss (kind of the nature of the beast with a show like that), but the hits have been more frequent (and funnier).
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
The bit on right now about jerking off a horse is just dumb
by DJK's bongwater on Feb 15, 2011 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
I know. I'm not a huge fan of their "pieces"
but their little blurbs are pretty funny.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 15, 2011 9:46 PM CST up reply actions
Much like the Onion website/paper, a lot of the best material is in the quick-hit blurbs and headlines.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
As is the story with a lot of satirical websites and shows
It gets to be a little much because often times, they end up touching something that’s really not that funny.
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #1: "The key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to win bowl games."
Cyclone Fanatic Poster #2's reply: "Or the key to being competitive in the Big 12 is to be competitive in the Big 12"
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 15, 2011 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
The thing they're doing about Eli right now is priceless.
"Brazilians should just stick to what they're good at: Soccer and waxing taints."
by Pain in the Sash on Feb 15, 2011 9:59 PM CST up reply actions
That was hilarious.
Made all the horse masturbation jokes almost worth it.
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
Their twitter feed is hilarious
But I’ve never actually watched an episode
by PackerHawk on Feb 16, 2011 7:30 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, it's really hit and miss..
The one-shot quick stuff is often really funny, but the long stories are often just embarrasingly long. The ‘Inside the Bench’ segment has been usually pretty good.
by coltranemonk on Feb 16, 2011 8:22 AM CST up reply actions
Nebraska should be UN
as in the prefix meaning (per Merriam-Websters)
opposite of: contrary to
As in un-interesting, un-graceful, un-mannered, un-American.
You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning
by The Bacon Explosion on Feb 16, 2011 7:31 AM CST reply actions
How about
UN-L as in UN-Liked?
"The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride!" HST
by Dip-Shit on Feb 16, 2011 12:27 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
That's getting a rec from me.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Feb 16, 2011 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
Have you tried the Buffalo Wing Pizza from Casey's?
My favorite by far.
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