Desert Deja Vu: Iowa vs. Oklahoma In The Insight Bowl
by RossWB on Dec 4, 2011 6:39 PM CST
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PrintWondering what bowl Iowa is headed to this year? Wonder no longer. Courtesy Friend of the Pants Marc Morehouse:
@marcmorehouse Iowa vs. Oklahoma in the Insight. Dec. 30, 9p.m. kick CST on ESPN.
BOOM. The Bob Stoops Bowl is on. (No, the winner of this game will not automatically become Iowa's head coach next year. Unless Ferentz wins, of course.)
Once again Iowa landed a bowl higher than their record or stature probably deserved, thanks to the Gator Bowl's hard-on for Ohio State-Florida (Urban Meyer's heart on a pole match!) and Penn State's Sandusky-induced freefall (they landed in the Ticket City Bowl against Houston).
As far as the game itself, Oklahoma is probably the strongest opponent Iowa could have possibly drawn in a bowl this year, which is both good news and bad news. The good news is that even in the wake of a disappointing regular season, Iowa players shouldn't have much trouble getting excited about playing a college football blue blood like Oklahoma. (Remember the 2006 Alamo Bowl against Texas?) In fact, it would be pretty surprising if Iowa players weren't more excited about this game than Oklahoma players; they get a chance to knock off a college football elite (albeit an elite squad having a slightly down year), while Oklahoma finds themselves in the Insight Bowl two months after dreaming about playing for the national championship. Big Game Bob will have to work all of his motivational mojo to get his players up for this game. For all Ferentz's problems, bowl preparation hasn't been one of them since the 2003 Orange Bowl. In fact, it's been one of his strengths.
The bad news is that Oklahoma is (shock!) an extremely talented team, albeit one that's been racked with injuries and inconsistent play over the course of the season. If they're healthy and get their shit together, this could be Iowa's ugliest showing in a bowl game in a long, long time. (Although many of the injuries that afflicted Oklahoma were of the season-ending variety; no need to worry about seeing Ryan Broyles suit up in this one, Iowa fans.)
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Look on the bright side: the last team to go to back-to-back Insight Bowls had a great season the next year.
#FreeFloyd
Cheering for inconsistent, undisciplined teams [Twins, Wild, Packers, Hawkeyes] since 1989. "False Hope is better than No Hope"
#winning
i also have found that while the emotional toll week to week is surmountable, the emotional buyout is simply not affordable
Love it!
Actually really excited for this game. Thanks to the thousands of fans that go to the bowl games every year that have built this awesome rep for us. Once again you get us into a great matchup.
All things considered, this is a great bowl scenario for Iowa.
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
Is this some sort of Underwear Party?
Cuz Iowa vs Oklahoma feels like it should be. KF and Stoopsy call first hug.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
This type of stuff is why SVP is my favorit ESPN personality
@notthefakeSVP
Scott Van Pelt
I get the ole “travel well” bit- you know who else travels well? Gypsies and Pikeys. When do they get their bowl?
But "disappointing" is not a synonym for "crappy." - Jacob Peterson
"We are Iowans, for the most part if you tell us to do something we’ll do it. It’s not like we are from South Carolina." - Carfino'sWay
by 6 seconds of hell on Dec 4, 2011 6:48 PM CST reply actions
Haha
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
by BentNotBroken on Dec 4, 2011 6:49 PM CST up reply actions
What they really should do...
Is pull out a bunch of trick plays..
It worked for Boise.
by Hawks_win_sometimes on Dec 4, 2011 6:48 PM CST reply actions
Hahahaahahahahahaha
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 6:50 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Actually
Didn’t Boise just go toe to toe with Okie for most of the game then not use trick plays until they needed to at the end of the 4th and on the 2 pt conversion? That’s why it was so damn impressive
#missesthepoint
Oklahoma needed a 4th quarter comeback.
For some reason, I thought BSU needed the comeback, but I was wrong.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 11:35 PM CST up reply actions
They did
They got the final touchdown of regulation off the hook-and-ladder to send it to overtime if I remember it right
Yep. And then used the statue of liberty later (for a 2-pointer to win in OT?)
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
Yup
I remember the commentators saying, “You know, when you’re the little guy in the fight, you can’t keep trading blows, eventually you just gotta go for the knockout punch.”
Playing a top-20, blue-blooded program?
Hey, it’ll be a good experience.
by George Washington Eagleclaw on Dec 4, 2011 6:48 PM CST reply actions
Ye of little faith
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
by BentNotBroken on Dec 4, 2011 6:50 PM CST up reply actions
Oh I didn't mean to imply a loss
I think Iowa is going to the Rose Bowl every year and think we might do well to have a repeat of last year vs. Mizzurah.
by George Washington Eagleclaw on Dec 4, 2011 6:52 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know how we will ever manage,
Wait, what’s that you say about the Michigan game this year?
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 6:51 PM CST up reply actions
If we can handle the spread next season, I'll be totally baffled.
Mizzou, TTU, ISU, Pitt, UL-M, NWU, Indy, Minnesota, Oklahoma. Practice makes perfect, right? I’m just asking for competency.
Glad that 15 bowl practices will be spent on LB coverage. This is a great opportunity for the defense to improve.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 5, 2011 8:44 AM CST up reply actions
2 Miles from my house
I think i might go
You'll figure out what to do, for god's sake your The Boat! - JD Scrubs
Post pictures again!
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
by BentNotBroken on Dec 4, 2011 6:53 PM CST up reply actions
I'm no photo editor...
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
by BentNotBroken on Dec 4, 2011 6:54 PM CST up reply actions
5 hours from mine and the wife and I will be there again there are so many ex Iowans out here it is not funny
by nwyms Trebek! on Dec 4, 2011 6:53 PM CST up reply actions
I live in Iowa,
and this is still a maybe for me. The fact that Oklahoma is the opponent should probably increase my desire to go, as Ferentz has said there is basically no way in hell the Hawks will play OU while he is coach (except for bowls).
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 7:15 PM CST up reply actions
Neither Ferentz nor Stoops have any interest in scheduling each other in non-conference.
So, yeah, this is your best shot to get Iowa-Oklahoma for a while. (Watch us play them next year in another bowl now…)
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Unless Oklahoma is a D-IAA or shit BCS school, Iowa will never play them.
Iowa refuses to play challenging non-conference games. As a season ticket holder, I look forward to gems like NIU and Central Michigan next season.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 5, 2011 8:46 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think
Arizona, ASU, or Pitt were completely shitty when Iowa put them on the schedule.
Now, in the future, with a possible (probable?) 9-game conference schedule, then perhaps they’ll stop scheduling even those slightly decent teams.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 5, 2011 8:53 AM CST up reply actions
Stoops has said the same thing
About playing Iowa.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Dec 4, 2011 7:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
hey its only 1926 miles from my house
Her noblesse exceeded her oblige
by OhioHawk on Dec 4, 2011 6:57 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I had two thoughts upon seeing this
1. Oh crap, were going to get killed
2. Horray! were going to get killed!
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 4, 2011 6:57 PM CST reply actions
For Some Reason
They don’t really seem too enthusiastic about this over at Crimson and Cream Machine.
Indeed
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
by BentNotBroken on Dec 4, 2011 6:59 PM CST up reply actions
Dreams of a National Championship
colliding with an Insight Bowl reality will do that to you.
See: Iowa, 2010.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Yep.
They were #1 in the country in October. (Or maybe September; whatever.)
Now they’re in the Insight Bowl.
Life’s a bitch.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Weren't they still in the top 5
as of about Nov. 13th?
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know if they got back in the top 5 after the Texas Tech loss.
But they were definitely in the 5-10 range until the Baylor loss.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Until the Baylor loss
OU still had a shot. That loss tanked the season…even though we could’ve won the league with a win at OSU…oops.
I always did like that song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5-JM-QFMiI
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Illinois v UCLA makes me smile.
Cheering for inconsistent, undisciplined teams [Twins, Wild, Packers, Hawkeyes] since 1989. "False Hope is better than No Hope"
LOL
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
Ross wrote a couple days ago about some bad losses and the perception of this team
What would the perception be if we didn’t continue to get better bowls than we deserve (and do pretty well in them)?
Once again we, the fans, get this program to a decent bowl.
FOUR. THREE. COVER. TWO.
Yes.
Here is YOUR 2004 Big Ten championship trophy and YOUR 2010 Orange Bowl ring. Sorry it took so long to get it to you.
/super-sarcasm-font’d
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 7:21 PM CST up reply actions
And right back at you
is last year’s Iowa Ticket City Bowl win over Tulane or whomever and this year’s Mieneke Car Care bowl win (or loss) to a C-USA team, plus I’d say at least one more Alamo Bowl instead of a Florida New Years game.
FOUR. THREE. COVER. TWO.
It's really not my intent to bag on the program that bad
but to be honest, when this program hasn’t produced, they have still been very fortunate.
FOUR. THREE. COVER. TWO.
There's also a crapload of former Iowans in the Phoenix area
LA used to be a destination for Iowans, now its jumped East to Phoenix. They really don’t have to worry about whether our fans will fill the stadium – or not, as there’s probably enough Iowans in the metro Phoenix area to fill up the gaps…
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 7:26 PM CST up reply actions
They'll still want to win just because
I’m hoping when they watch the MSU and Nebraska film the players decide they don’t need to work real hard.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Iowa State gets Rutgers in the Pinstripe Bowl
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Last year,
the temp there was high 20s or low-to-mid 30s. No precip.
They had a blizzard there about 4 days before, IIRC.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 7:59 PM CST up reply actions
I would have tried to go this year if Iowa had gone out there.
I’m going to be around NYC anyway for family stuff over Xmas.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Hmmm... I could go to this...
Cheap flight on SW…
Then again, we are going to get the dogs hit hammered out of us. Remember what OU did to CT last year? And we certainly are not as good as CT was last year right now (and CT sucked last year).
On the plus side, if we were to win, it would shut up the “we should have hired Stoops crowd”.
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
Oh Please Bird I get a major kicks out of your post but we are much better than CT and OU this year is not OU from last year
by nwyms Trebek! on Dec 4, 2011 7:11 PM CST up reply actions
I watched that CT-OU game at a sports bar
CT was competitive for about a half a quarter and then OU woke up and stomped them silly. It was beautiful to watch – for me – as I hate all things CT.
But Bobby will not pull a Kirk and not run up the score. He would put 50-60-70 on his alma mater and sleep like a baby…
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 7:17 PM CST up reply actions
"He would put 50-60-70 on his alma mater and sleep like a baby…"
I am 99% sure you are wrong about that.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Like a vampire? Well, they don't really sleep
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 7:20 PM CST up reply actions
I think it's funny you call it "running it up"
I was an athlete in “football country,” and fans expect huge victories. Jesus, have you been to Texas? Oklahoma? Louisiana? Alabama? There isn’t SHIT there. These people live off of Football from Friday Night to Saturday night (oddly they care little for NFL in my experience). If Bob Stoops eeked out victories Iowa style en route to a strong finish, Oklahoma fans would not be pleased. 30+ point victories are their birthright, dammit!
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 5, 2011 8:52 AM CST up reply actions
I'm with Ross.
If OU gets out to a 3 score lead late in the game, I imagine Stoops will run, run, run, punt until the final whistle.
by The Mexican't on Dec 5, 2011 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
Help me understand this perspective.
When has Bob Stoops showed anything like what you’re saying he will show? Is there any instance in history that supports this?
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 5, 2011 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
Interesting. You're saying he will act unlike he has ever acted, in any game ever.
He coached at Kansas State from 89-95, and beat them 58-17 this season. He coached at Florida State and they beat them 47-17 in 2010 (23-13 this year but b/c it was a good game, not b/c Stoops is a compassionate man).
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 6, 2011 9:57 AM CST up reply actions
Well, KF didn't hesitate to run it up on Tim Brewster,
a coach for whom he had no respect for, when he’d never shown that tendency at any other point in conference play.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Dec 6, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
Stoops coached at Florida
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
I'm with Ross
I don’t think Bobby would run up the score.
Of course, our players still have to stop his and if they SHOW UP, it could get ugly.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
I don't know. It seemed like the defense was getting its shit together there the last few games
Nebraska could’ve blown us out if the defense had played like it did earlier in the season.
This could be interesting, Kirk will have a few weeks to prepare, Coker will have time to rest and heal, and the scout team can try every conceivable kind of blitz on VDB so maybe we’d have a chance.
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 7:23 PM CST up reply actions
I think we have a chance
I just won’t be surprised if it turns out very badly for us.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
And that's what I'm afraid of
Vandenberg gets rattled and off rhythm very easily.
If I were OU, my entire focus would be to stop Iowa from scoring in our first 3-4 series… because the modus operandi of this year’s team – if we score on our first possession, we play a lot better the rest of the game. If we don’t, the dumpster fire starts smoldering…
This team has shitloads of offense, its just feast or famine…
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think he would intentionally run up the score on Iowa.
And I’m pretty sure he would be unhappy if he did. (Especially in a meaningless bowl game. If this was for a title? All bets are off.) He loves Iowa a LOT.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I recall hearing
that his Dad was buried wearing an Iowa letterman’s sweater.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
I recall hearing his dad was actually buried in the jersey (or a replica, maybe) of the one he and his brothers wore at Iowa.
(They all had the same number — 42? — when their careers didn’t overlap.)
But, yeah, the family connections run pretty deep.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
41, I think.
"Pursue happiness... with diligence."
by Bucketochicken on Dec 4, 2011 7:36 PM CST up reply actions
I heard he wore an Iowa sweatshirt to the Insight Bowl last year.
Cheering for inconsistent, undisciplined teams [Twins, Wild, Packers, Hawkeyes] since 1989. "False Hope is better than No Hope"
Yep.
It would be fun to get a picture of that.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I'm sure its somewhere on the Internets
It would make a great picture to go with a game preview/thread
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 7:41 PM CST up reply actions
I've got a good high school buddy that lives in PHX
That has connections with the local sports community (he was part of the group that did the Diamondbacks stadium deal), his kid has interned with the Fiesta Bowl, I last saw him there at a work conference in 2008 so it would be nice to see him and his family. Plus the GF has never seen Iowa play and is willing to go…
There are a lot of other ways I could piss away $1,000 on flight, tickets, car, hotel. Might as well go see the Hawks…
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 7:20 PM CST up reply actions
I hope you are in a skybox at the game.
I don’t want to hear the mixture of guitar music and “Put in AJ Derby” chants while I try to watch the game.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 7:24 PM CST up reply actions 10 recs
Hey, if a couple of LBs go down of COURSE I'm going to scream to put AJ in
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 7:29 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Well played.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
And turnabout is fair play.
Nice work Bird.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Dec 4, 2011 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
We can't set up Bird to have good comebacks like that
“Put in Argulor”
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
There are a number of situations we could put Argulor in
That don’t involve football or illegal activities and that he’d probably excel at…
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
Good thing we don't have to play the 2010 Oklahoma team.
On the plus side, if we were to win, it would shut up the "we should have hired Stoops crowd".
So… you?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Dec 4, 2011 7:12 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
i was thinking thatq
but you wrote it
lets get his baby brother to work with norm
Her noblesse exceeded her oblige
Mike is supposedly goint to fOSU
and if they haven’t shut up about hiring Bobby yet, they never will.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Hahaha
I’m a “we should have hired anyone BUT Ferentz” crowd.
My buddy in PHX has some connections with the Fiesta people… its an easy hour and a half flight from Sacramento to PHX. I could fly in on Thursday, see the game, fly out on Saturday. Its doable…
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 7:14 PM CST up reply actions
"I’m a "we should have hired anyone BUT Ferentz" crowd."
Well, clearly that makes so much more sense. Ron Zook for Iowa!
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I'd love to get him as a recruiting coordinator
But I think Kirk’s head would explode trying to manage Ron’s, um, personality and just about everything else Zook.
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 7:17 PM CST up reply actions
The guy *can* recruit talent he just can't coach it or his own way out of a wet paper bag
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 7:21 PM CST up reply actions
Only if Brewster isn't available.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Fox won't let him out of his contract, so no dice there.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Dude
Just fucking stop it already. Everyone wanted Stoops and I’m pretty sure you knew jack shit about Ferentz before he was hired, so don’t say you were saying "oh no anyone but THAT asshole!
Chances are, you had your mouth shut and were quite happy from 02-04. I understand this season, and last season as well, sucked, and I’m frustrated as well about the direction of our program. But your “Ferentz sucks get him out I’ve always disliked him” act is fucking old. In fact, I think I just saw Willard Scott trying to put this obsession you have on a Smuckers label.
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on Dec 4, 2011 7:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 6 recs
Grixxly?
Is that you?
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
Hmmm... just got an email from my buddy in PHX
I might just go… this could be very do-able.
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
Haha
I mean, when he’s not talking about how he wants to burn Ferentz’s effigy, I like what he has to say, mainly because he’s harmless and talks about running and shit. I bet he’s awesome to have beers with, seems like he’s full of great stories. But this is just getting worn out. We get it, you don’t like Kirk, trust us that we know.
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on Dec 4, 2011 8:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You are very kind sir
I had a GREAT 10 mile training run today. Now that its my offseason, and my 2+ year long IT band injury finally healed up this Spring, I’m trying to get my 2007 speed back (not that I’m that fast, but when I was in shape I could run a half marathon just slightly under 2 hours). I ran my 10 mile route 5 minutes faster = 33 seconds faster per mile pace than last Sunday. In the last two weeks, I’ve cut 7 minutes off of my 10 mile training run time. I’ve been on a tear the past two weeks, I’ve just been trying to run as hard as I can without overdoing it, putting in 25 miles per week in 4 or 5 runs with one long 10 mile run. I’ve got 3 races slotted so far in 2011 – Super Bowl Sunday 10K, Shamrock’n Half Marathon 3/11 and the Sactown 10 miler 4/1. I ran 4 half marathons this year and I’ll probably do that many in 2012.
Right now, I don’t want to increase my weekly mileage I just want to build speed. :)
And I owe all of you fine people a beer for putting up with me…
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
or maybe it's that his posts are just so incoherent and rambling
whether its about football or just life, i’ve learned to just move past them
TLDR
/presses z
42 is the answer
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
A Surly Don me if you
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on Dec 4, 2011 9:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Pardon me
Still learning to type on an iPhone. If you make it to Minnesota the first Surly Furious is in me. Just don’t bring up Ferentz and we’re good!
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on Dec 4, 2011 9:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
the first Surly Furious is in me
The last three are in me.
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Dec 5, 2011 9:15 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I'm done posting on here with my iPhone
I miss my Droid slideout keyboard in a major way.
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on Dec 5, 2011 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed.
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 5, 2011 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
Hmmm
I wasnt talking about you, was talking about Bird Cult. I don’t know much about your posts or your apparent ill-will towards Ferentz. Chazz brought you up, not me. Glad you took my comments personally though.
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on Dec 4, 2011 9:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Derp
I’ll leave through the back door.
(iPhone excuse again…)
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on Dec 4, 2011 9:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Wasn't Chazz on your side there? I dont know the background of this
but Chazz loves KF and TBC hates him
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
Hit the up button on his comment.
Chazz used his name as an insult to another commenter.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
Chazz said it to Twin Cities Hawk. The two of them are on the same side.
Not sure how it was an insult.
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 9:30 PM CST up reply actions
You and Catnuts were both kind of right.
Sorry, Grixxly. I guess you and I can’t even joke with each other anymore.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 9:31 PM CST up reply actions
Beyond this I won't respond
but how you think invoking my name in a negative way is somehow a joke; well, that I don’t understand.
We've already had a challenge once.
Please don’t encourage it.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
Just to clarify
I’m not the biggest Ferentz fan either. I also don’t comment “Ferentz sucks LOLZ!” every time I rarely make a comment on here these days.
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on Dec 5, 2011 8:19 AM CST up reply actions
Ah because Chazz responded to Twin Cities Hawk, not TBC I was confused.
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 9:31 PM CST up reply actions
Fuck you, PanterHawk!
Did I do it right?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Dec 5, 2011 2:04 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm still not sure why Penn St. was treated so poorly.
Would the actions of those fired administrators (and the subsequent black cloud) really have imperiled the financial success of an Outback, Gator, etc. Bowl? I feel like there’s enough fan (and Big Ten) loyalty to make it work.
The best explanation I heard
was that the bowls are afraid there could be another shoe yet to drop and would YOU want a bunch of network news cameras outside your bowl game talking about child molestation rather than football?
The got screwed. Life’s like that.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Which means smart money is on more shit dropping.
Bad. Word is Penn St. wants some Urban Meyer progeny (Mullins or Strong), and this won’t help. But, how about the fact that Urban Meyer could make coaching in the B1G cool again? Can we dedicate an entire comment space to this? The guy could improve the image of the conference outside the midwest a lot.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 5, 2011 9:01 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think smart money is on that
It’s just that you never know until you know…. and the better bowls just absolutely positively did not want to take that chance.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Because no bowl wants their name in the paper next to "child sex abuse scandal."
It does suck for the players.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Have there been any rumors yet as to who the next PSU coach will be?
It obviously ain’t going to be the Urban Legend.
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 7:15 PM CST up reply actions
PLAY4BREW FOR PENN STATE
WITH RON ZOOK AS ATHLETIC DIRECTOR.
I can ride my bike with no handlebars...
by hkobb7 on Dec 4, 2011 7:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Only if Brew
hires Gerg as his D coordinator.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Dec 4, 2011 11:52 PM CST up reply actions
PSU Wishlist is Dan Mullins or Charlie Strong.
Realistically, however, I don’t know. Depends on how fat that paycheck is. Was Joe Pa handsomely compensated? It’s going to be a huge bump from him, regardless.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 5, 2011 9:03 AM CST up reply actions
They can afford it
If Iowa can afford $3.5 mil, PSU can afford $5 mil easy. Huge stadium and a massive fanbase that buys t-shirts, hats, etc.
I don’t know that JoePa’s salary was disclosed, but I’ve heard it was around a million.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Thanks. That sounds right to me.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 5, 2011 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
The Tostitos molestabowl. Don't be that guy.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 5, 2011 9:01 AM CST up reply actions
In addition to what others mentioned,
some sponsors did pull their name from TV games for PSU. I’d imagine more might do similarly for a bowl game that involved the Nitts.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, right now, PSU is radioactive, and they'll stay that way until Sandusky is locked upT
The real nightmare for PSU is if Sandusky (and this is assuming he’s guilty, OK) gets off after a trial… this kind of crap just never goes away.
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 7:30 PM CST up reply actions
i think the outback was the key decision maker
Since the Gator wanted OSU and the Insight is associated with the Fiesta, which has had a major scandal of its own. As it is the Okies get to invade with Insight on the 30th and Ok State plays across town on Jan. 2.
FOUR. THREE. COVER. TWO.
by Mr. Grizz on Dec 4, 2011 7:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I forget what Broyles' injury was.
Will he be back?
" no need to worry about seeing Ryan Broyles suit up in this one, Iowa fans."
I wasn’t being facetious. He tore his ACL. He’s out for a while.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Reading iz harde.
Twitterz: @EnergizerHawk
by EnergizerHawk on Dec 4, 2011 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
No, that's okay.
I didn’t want anyone to think I was being facetious there.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
The New Era Pinstripe Bowl
Against Rutgers is the Clones reward for messing up the BCS. Who said life is fair?
Whoops
Just noticed Ross’s comment on the same thing, gotta be quick around here.
by Corncob Justice on Dec 4, 2011 7:14 PM CST up reply actions
Somehow, I missed this story when it happened.
by One Night Stanzi on Dec 4, 2011 7:15 PM CST reply actions
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
that is all.
And the rest of the SEC west (along with most of the east) was garbage.
Get off of your knees for the damn SEC
by ManziBall on Dec 4, 2011 7:21 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
to the barricades!!
lets rape pillage and plunder ames (joking)
i would hate to endager Daughter of Ohio Hawk
Her noblesse exceeded her oblige
Damn you, Paul Rhoads.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
(Via Xarin's G+)
Cheering for inconsistent, undisciplined teams [Twins, Wild, Packers, Hawkeyes] since 1989. "False Hope is better than No Hope"
by Yabbs on Dec 4, 2011 7:26 PM CST reply actions 17 recs
The BCS rematch is BS
and everyone outside of Bama (and probably have the people in bama) know it.
Petition against a rematch:
its not gonna stop it, but with enough signatures it may get the BCS’s attention for next year. If no one watches the game, they aren’t going to end up very happy.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/no-bcs-rematch/
by ck4 on Dec 4, 2011 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
Rec'd
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
Yep, makes perfect sense to me!
"No I'm not going to 'limber up'. You ever see a lion stretching before it takes down a gazelle?"
So the season kind of sucked...
But we get to watch a Friday night bowl game vs a top notch opponent coached by a former Hawk. All good with me.
by djwoody on Dec 4, 2011 7:27 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
OU defensive back doesn't sound so hyped.
tonyjefferson1 Tony Jefferson
Dang …. Iowa…
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
He's probably just scared.
"Pursue happiness... with diligence."
by Bucketochicken on Dec 4, 2011 7:36 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Actually, even if we do get hammered
its not nearly as bad for us as it would be for us to beat OU.
No one will expect us to have a chance in this game.
If we get beat, people will say “Yeah, Iowa just isn’t very good this year, but you would expect OU to hammer a bad opponent.”
If we win, they will say “Hmmm… what’s wrong with Oklahoma?”
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
i think we might revise an old Bo Schembeckler joke
why does stoops wife serve him cereal on a plate
because if she put it in a bowl he’d lose it
Her noblesse exceeded her oblige
by OhioHawk on Dec 4, 2011 7:43 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
What do Notre Dame and Marijuana have in common?
They both get smoked in bowls.
How do you make Notre Dame cookies?
Put them in a big bowl and beat them for three hours.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
I remember that joke being about Nebraska.
I was small when I first heard it.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Dec 4, 2011 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
Why does the wind blow in Iowa so hard?
Because Nebraska sucks.
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
No, that's all wrong.
That’s why Iowa and everything south of it doesn’t fall into the Gulf of Mexico. Because Minnesota sucks.
/has a sad
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Dec 4, 2011 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
The wind blows pretty dang hard in Kansas, too.
But it’s probably still just Nebraska sucking.
This all feels a bit like the Alamo vs. Texas in 200whateveritwas.
Which is to say, heartening.
That was Florida
Outback Bowl, 200?(5 I think)
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
The this guy game:
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Dec 5, 2011 3:12 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey guys, remember when I said I doubted TCU would get to 16?
Yeah.
by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Dec 4, 2011 7:37 PM CST reply actions
A winner is you!
I think they might have if Virginia Tech and Michigan State had won last night. But they didn’t, so no dice.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Dantonio had the best "Oh fuck me" expression on his face in the post game interview
It was like he was really in shock that they had lost… like he couldn’t figure out WTF had gone wrong.
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
There was no need to rush the punter when they did.
Tough to lose the game on a call like that, but they should never have been in that situation.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Agreed.
It’s not like the offense had struggled to move the ball. Why not just put on the safe return, take the ball, and roll the dice with the offense and some time on the clock?
by One Night Stanzi on Dec 4, 2011 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
They also have a great returner.
As evidenced, you know, BY THE RETURN HE HAD THAT WAS NEGATED.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I was rooting for Bucky, especially
After the MSU defender tried to twist Wilson’s head off via the face mask… that was just totally uncalled for. There were a lot of hard hits in that game… the Wisconsin player they interviewed after the end of the game – don’t know who it was – had spots of what looked like blood all over his jersey. One of the things about HD, you can really see all the gouges on helmets towards the end of the game too… both teams were really hitting each other hard…
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
"After the MSU defender tried to twist Wilson’s head off via the face mask… that was just totally uncalled for."
Sounds like MSU.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Every single one of their games, so much dirty play going on not around the ball
Dantonio will have everyone in the B1G aiming to hurt his players if they don’t clean their act up… its one thing to hit hard, its entirely another to try to deliberately injure people.
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
But I love how they coach their players (at this point it really seems like it) to go balls-to-the-wall all the time (with questionable hits, dirty play, felonies, etc.)
and going balls-to-the-wall is what ended up losing them the game. It’s poetic.
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Dec 4, 2011 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
In fairness,
they’re just trying to bring SEC football to the Big Ten.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad Iowa doesn’t pull the shit that MSU does. But sometimes, I feel like our OLs could do better if they were willing to hit to the whistle or just beyond.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
Better to be a bit too aggressive,
than to fake injuries in the 4th quarter.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 11:35 PM CST up reply actions
I was too, but Michigan jumps MSU for bowls?
I thought that was a slap in the face for their embarrassment against Bama. Not sure if it was entirely deserved, especially when you win a head-to-head matchup over Michigan. System is bogus.
Please note that I despise Michigan State. Despite that I still have some moral compass when it comes to their BCS fate.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 5, 2011 9:10 AM CST up reply actions
Bowl selection only make sense
when you realize the equation involves overall record, ability to put butts in seats and TV ratings. Not neccesarily in that order.
Michigan has been out of the picture for awhile so they are a major grab. They will sell out their allotment easily. Plus, at 10-2, it’s not like they’re a bad team, and any debate over just how good they really are is great for ratings as folks tune in to either see them prove they belong or get exposed.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
I don't understand why Michigan getting a bid over MSU = "systems is bogus"
It’s odd, sure, but after the title game all the others are just giant moneygrabs for the bowls. Michigan fans are so excited to be in a bowl game again that they’re going to travel in droves to a BCS bowl.
by The Mexican't on Dec 5, 2011 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
And, to be fair
they’re going to motherfucking New Orleans. To watch football. On, uhhh, Monday, January 9th (well, the date’s fucking stupid). Hells yes!!
Not how I saw it
It looked to me like the MSU player let go after he realized he had him by the facemask. He could’ve brought him down if he wanted to but didn’t.
I did suggest that Gholston take out Ball after the end of a play but I wasn’t serious.
I can’t stomach Bielema.
Yeah, that was a head scratcher
There was plenty of time on the clock, Bucky had not been able to stop Cousins all day, and all they needed was 3 for OT.
The biggest series of the day was when the Wisconsin defense held MSU to three points the last time they scored, before Wisconsin got the go-ahead TD. That was a HUGE defensive stop even though MSU scored, it kept the game winnable for Bucky.
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 8:01 PM CST up reply actions
Because Dantonio is an asshole?
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Dec 4, 2011 10:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, yeah
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
So
Will it be Boise or KSU in a BCS game? I’m going with Boise.
by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Dec 4, 2011 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
I guess VT and Baylor are also possibilities, but...
by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Dec 4, 2011 7:41 PM CST up reply actions
Va Tech-Michigan in the Sugar, apparently.
No, I don’t get it, either.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Meh.
I’m not shocked that a Boise team with a loss got passed over for two “name” programs that each got to 10 wins.
Welcome to the big time, Boise. Shit happens.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 7:49 PM CST up reply actions
It's actually Va Tech.
Seriously.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
You're kidding, right?
by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Dec 4, 2011 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
I wish I was.
I don’t know if it’s “official” official, but various plugged-in people on Twitter have said it’s a done deal.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Just saw it on ESPN.
Damn, I was looking forward to a BSU-Michigan game.
by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Dec 4, 2011 7:46 PM CST up reply actions
hokies vs hoke
i got to write a song
Her noblesse exceeded her oblige
by OhioHawk on Dec 4, 2011 7:46 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Early lines on BCS bowls.
CoversSports Covers.com Team
BCS opening bowl lines from Vegas odds service The Sports Club: Rose: Wis. vs Oregon (-5, 72), Fiesta: Okla St (-3.5, 73) vs. Stanford.
72 or 73 is a pretty big o/u, but with those teams it seems pretty legit. Especially the Rose Bowl: there are gonna be a lot of points in that sucker.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I'd take the over on the Rose Bowl
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Yeah, agreed.
Not impressed with either defense there.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Rose Bowl has been the best bowl game in recent years.
WIsconsin is like USC on steroids (except for WR, of course, where they are abysmal compared to Woods/Lee), and they have a month to prepare for the read option. Oregon has a month for each D-Lineman to gain 30-40#. I like Bucky’s chances.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 5, 2011 9:12 AM CST up reply actions
The rematch that pretty much no one outside of alabama wanted
well im not watching it, frankly i dont care. im so fucking sick of football and the politics behind it.
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 4, 2011 7:48 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Maybe I'm alone here, but I wanted it.
I’d rather see a competitive game than watching OSU get blown out.
by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Dec 4, 2011 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
Its not even the game, im just tired
the BCS is such a politicly drivin system, the entire bowl game scheme is politically driven and it disqusts me.
for instance, PSU dropping as far as they have, whould that have happened in wrestling? or Basketball? or any other college sport? no it wouldnt have, they would have been in the tournament fair and square unless the NCAA or university deemed otherwise.
but in football? they drop behind a 6-6 OSU and a 7-5 Iowa, both of which they beat.
half the reason the Big Ten sucks in bowls is because our 6-6 team is chosen so high simply for being who they are
honestly, im just sick of college football and all the bullshit. College football playoffs SHOULD be second only to the FILA world cup in atmosphere, instead we have bowls to crown imaginary champions. if Alabama wins and OK State wins, is Alabama really the champion?
im not watching another BCS bowl until a playoff is made, even if Iowa gets there again. thats what highlights and BHGP are for.
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 4, 2011 7:56 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
by the PSU thing
ii mean they wouldnt have gone from a 3 to a 8th seed based on a scandal.
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 4, 2011 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
I agree.
I have so much fun watching PLAYOFFS in every other sport, due to the fact that the best team(S) have a chance to win it all. The BCS is bull. Tonight, both herbie and james brought up either a playoff or +1 system, and Reese Davis just blew through it, talking louder & louder each time, & was told to cut to Miles or Saban.
Personally, I’m pumped for a matchup between OU & Iowa. I like the Hawkeyes chances, specifically because everyone tagged mizzou last year as the team that would roll the hawks, simply based on their ranking. Usually, the last college game of the year, I watch, is the rose bowl.
by GodDam_Hawkeyes on Dec 4, 2011 9:08 PM CST up reply actions
If Bama wins ugly, or loses, and OSU wins big, could OSU jump to claim the crown?
It has to be one of the two in the mNC game, right?
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Dec 4, 2011 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
Ok St could only win the AP championship but that is even unlikely.
Especially because then it would be “the 2 teams can only lose to each other so they are the 2 best”
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 11:14 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, only LSU or Bama can get the Crystal football.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 11:16 PM CST up reply actions
I'll watch,
but I am definitely hoping for more points this time. Particularly in a dome.
If Bama and LSU put on another stink fest of missed kicks, then the system needs blowed up. (In fairness, the system needs blowed up, no matter what.)
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
the system has needed to be blown up since the first time there were three undefeated teams in the nation
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 4, 2011 8:01 PM CST up reply actions
I agree,
if you are talking about the year Auburn got left out.
To me, though, if you are going to change this, you have to go to at least an 8-team playoff. Someone good will continue to get left out if we only go to a 4-team or a “plus 1” solution. Either that, or the SEC will just get 3 of the 4 playoff spots too often.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
The problem with that is you will always have the complaints about who should be number 8.
Which I absolutely prefer over the current system.
And that would still beat the current "system" which is about as good as putting liquified monkey nuts in a sports drink and expecting it to be a big seller.
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
They already got rid of 4LOCO.
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Dec 4, 2011 11:14 PM CST up reply actions
4LOKO gets you drunk real fast though. And its downable atleast for me
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
Somebody actually drank that ?
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
Life is too short
for cheap liquor
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Dec 4, 2011 11:16 PM CST up reply actions
Do you know what "Broadway" is in Iowa City?
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
-one of HFMR's many amazing tags
"It's Northwestern," he explained. "A smart school."
-TMart on jNW reading signals
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Dec 4, 2011 11:16 PM CST up reply actions
Just the caffeine, 12% 4LOKO is still available
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
by BentNotBroken on Dec 4, 2011 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
I thought they just came up with a new formula?
And also, there are still Joose and Baller drinks out there.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 11:18 PM CST up reply actions
Which will inevitably lead to bracket creep
Because it will. And any playoff proponent who says otherwise is just being intellectually dishonest.
This year really doesn’t do my anti-playoff argument any favors though
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I think it is easier to dismiss team #9 from inclusion,
than it is to dismiss team #3 or 4 or 5.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
they have no reason to not do it
literally none except the greed of the bowl owners who dont want to lose their yearly cash cows. lower divisions of football do it so that kind of takes the whole “what about the kids?” arguement out of it.
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 4, 2011 10:23 PM CST up reply actions
an extra month of games away for "student-athletes" and the injury problems therein as well
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
It's the hypocisy of it
SEC teams were against this happening when it was our teams. Hey, has anybody asked Urban what he thinks?
Like you say, at least I don’t have to worry about watching the game, because I won’t
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Dec 4, 2011 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
I'm with you on this one
I want Bama to win, I think. But I have no interest in watching the game and will take a principled stand against it
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
What if Bama wins by 3? Should they split the Championship? Thats why I have a problem with a rematch.
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
Ah, who am I kidding. The official title has to go to the winner, stupid rules.
And what if Bama lays an egg again? My only hope at this point is a boring, terrible game with terrible ratings.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Dec 4, 2011 10:47 PM CST up reply actions
Can we hope for an awful awful game, maybe like 8 turnovers and a score of 3-0 bama
And then have Ok st. smoke Stanford and get the AP National Champ for the old split title winners. I would enjoy that.
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 10:48 PM CST up reply actions
I'm cool with that.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 11:00 PM CST up reply actions
Safeties. 4-2 final score.
"No I'm not going to 'limber up'. You ever see a lion stretching before it takes down a gazelle?"
That works, too
"No I'm not going to 'limber up'. You ever see a lion stretching before it takes down a gazelle?"
Unless Bama absolutely blows their doors off, I hope the AP gives LSU the title anyway.
They beat them Bama in Tuscaloosa during the regular season and they have the best resume by far this year (they beat the 2, 6, 7, 18, and 23-ranked teams in the final AP poll this year, and all but one of those games was on the road or at a neutral site). For my money, they were easily the best team in college football all season.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yes, this
To reiterate, they beat Bama in Tuscaloosa. That is the primary reason I think this rematch substance is bullshit. Lose on the road one thing – at home, quite another my friend
I'd be cool if Bama snuck out a win in New Orleans,
and then LSU and some in the media start bitching about the extra week of rest that Alabama got by not having to play in the SEC title game.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 11:01 PM CST up reply actions
But the alternative.
Is a team who lost to ISU? Apples to apples, which loss is more of a dumpster fire?
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 5, 2011 9:18 AM CST up reply actions
I've said it before, I'll say it again
In 2006, Michigan didn’t get in because they “had their chance”. In 2011, Alabama makes it because, I assume, they’re in the ESS-EE-CEE. Voters and the BCS set up a precedent five years ago and then became hypocrites this year. Screw that. Okie State should be in the MNC.
I'm not terribly passionate about this
but I’ll say Okie State at least had more of an excuse, if we want to go that route. Alabama only needed a better kicker, to, you know, kick field goals in the stadium where they played 7 games this year.
Everyone's focusing on the loss instead of the quality wins.
Okie State had a much more difficult schedule than Bama and won the same number of games. The loss to an amped Iowa State in Ames shouldn’t be enough to offset the quality of their wins.
by The Mexican't on Dec 5, 2011 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
It's just a question of which you put more weight on
Quality Wins: in which case OSU comes out ahead; OR
Bad Losses: Alabama’s lone loss is better than OSU’s/
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I know I know
But I just hate them both. I think LSU is far better, I think technically they were slightly outplayed by Bama the first game but kicking is part of the game. Also all of the missed field goals were 45 plus yards so its not like Bama was driving down to the 10 yard line 4 or 5 times and missing field goals. I do think they are one dimensional. Both teams qb’s suck but when your defense is that fucking good it doesnt matter I suppose.
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
I actually really enjoy watching LSU.
They play a fast, aggressive style of defense that’s pretty exciting, their special teams are incredible, and while their offense is kind of ugly at times (especially when they try to pass the ball), watching them mash away at teams with the running game can be fun. In some ways, they’re the ideal version of what we’d like to see out of Iowa (well, with a better passing attack, too).
And Les Miles is tremendously entertaining.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I too enjoy watching them, Tyrann Mathieu is damn incredible.
I just can’t stand them. And while Les Miles is entertaining, and I know he is a tremendous motivator as well, I don’t think he is THAT good of a coach. He has some stupid play calling that they say gutsy and like mad scientist or whatever, but I think it is a little overkill and it only works because of his incredibly talented players, although maybe thats why he does it lol.
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
Sometimes I wonder
if LSU could be better with a different coach (albeit, there are few guys who could do it).
The main reason I can’t like LSU is because they always have some real douche-bags. Mathieu is darn good, but also a complete show-boat. And when the show-boating bleeds down to your punter, you know you have an issue.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
It's a welcome break from the shit I've watched this season.
Excepting McNutt.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 5, 2011 9:19 AM CST up reply actions
In HS, our team played another team to triple overtime and won.
Then we saw them again in the state championship game (after a playoff) and they beat us. They were the champions.
So even a playoff system isn’t foolproof against rematches, depending on how the brackets get set up. Some teams are bound to play rematches at some point, be it the championship game or an earlier playoff game.
But I still like the idea of a playoff better than the current system.
Same happened to me in HS.
Lost to a team early in the regular season, we beat them in the qtrs. in the playoffs, and went to to win state. It just so happened they were our huge rivals (7 miles down the road), and had to go home with a ‘Participant’ trophy while we got rings.
by One Night Stanzi on Dec 5, 2011 9:12 AM CST up reply actions
I am fine it there is a rematch after a playoff. It happens all the times
New York beat New England in the Super Bowl in a rematch.
by clay-born to party on Dec 5, 2011 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
Unless you make it a situation where
only conference champions make the playoffs. Wouldn’t totally prevent the rematch scenario, but it would be incredibly rare. I actually think, and have said this since 2001, that the conference champion requirement should be in place for the BCS title game.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I like that.
If you didn’t even PLAY in your conference championship game, there is no way you should be in the national championship game.
"No I'm not going to 'limber up'. You ever see a lion stretching before it takes down a gazelle?"
Good point. Didn't consider this.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 5, 2011 9:17 AM CST up reply actions
You're going to be even more disappointed in the politics of the workplace when you get there.
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah.
I still remember when I was student-teaching. I chatted with many other teachers in the department I was in.
Near the end of my time there, I found out that the youngest teacher (who looked exactly like me, and was maybe slightly more competent than me, but I was still in college), admitted that his Dad worked at another school in the district for at least a couple of decades.
Networking really is important.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 11:05 PM CST up reply actions
Respectfully disagree.
LSU is far and away the best team. Bama played them the best, and rolled their competition otherwise. Match-up’s feel shady to me (especially after 2006; Florida annihilated OSU after writer’s thought Michigan deserved another shot in the title game), but this one doesn’t have the same feeling. Nobody is close to either of these teams, IMO.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 5, 2011 9:14 AM CST up reply actions
Mark May just said "Every NFL scout in the NFL" will be at the Fiesta
But what about the NFL scouts that are in the CFL?! I need to know!
Va Tech has only played one Big Ten team
Indiana in the 1993 Independence Bowl. They won 45-20
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
He beat Indiana in the 1993 Independence Bowl.
He lost to Nebraska (while they were either B8 or B12) in the 96 Orange Bowl.
Michigan in the Sugar this year.
Otherwise, he’s had a lot of SEC, ACC or Big East opponents, mixed with a couple Pac 10 or other western opponents.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
Before I die
could i drive one of the cars in allstate commerecials
to thnik of takingout fences et al
Her noblesse exceeded her oblige
You, sir, have a future on ESPN.
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by KilometersDavis on Dec 4, 2011 8:16 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
rec
The two local games this morning were terrible:
OAK vs MIA (latent Raiders fans here in L.A.)
DEN vs MIN (apparenly for Tebow Time)
Ugh.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
At least the latter game was exciting.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I don't care if Tebow wins the West as long as your Raiders don't.
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
I'm resigned to the fact that the Fightin' Tebow are going to win it.
/sigh
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Could be worse. At least you're not a Bolts fan
/sigh
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
I would have put one but I was admittedly doing it for a response
by clay-born to party on Dec 5, 2011 12:03 AM CST up reply actions
ATTENTION SEEKER.
It’s alright. We all do it.
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by EnergizerHawk on Dec 5, 2011 8:45 AM CST up reply actions
Even worse? Being a Dolphins fan
for some reason they’ve decided to play themselves out of the Andrew Luck sweepstakes. Not early enough for the season to not be a disaster, but late enough to make sure we won’t be any better next year.
And San Diego’s problems start and end with Norv “The Franchise Killer” Turner
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Uhhh, we had Bears / Chiefs
Then Ram / Niners. Barf, barf, barf.
by GaryDolphinSafeTuna on Dec 4, 2011 9:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
As a Niners fan,
I would love to have watched them clinch the West today.
But, I am sick, and I just took a nap instead of watch much NFL today.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
It wasn't any better in Iowa,
where we had Denver/Minny, and Bears/Chiefs.
But, this is what happens when you have 5 or 6 nationally televised games a week (MNF, Thursday, 3 Sunday games, and Sunday night).
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
I understand why that happens in NFC North country
but why here? Usually we get the best games every week because there’s no real rooting interest outside of nominal Raiders and Chargers fans.
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
I think the NFL has rules about
Sunday day-time coverage sticking pretty closely to the stereotypical regional arrangement.
I think they also figure anyone who really wants to see their favorite team, out of market, will either go to a bar or order SundayTicket at home. (Bars and restaurants that have Sunday Ticket have to pay higher and higher fees to show it).
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
No, NFL doesn't make the decision. Local affiliates do.
But it’s still the same: Regional teams get a huge preference. Which makes sense. What I’m saying is in a market with no regional preference, why does the L.A. channel choose DEN-MIN over choosing more high-profile games other than the Tebow factor?
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
Because Minny will be playing there in a year or two?
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 9:48 PM CST up reply actions
Touche
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
LA used to be an AFC West town.
And is an hour from another.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Dec 5, 2011 7:10 AM CST up reply actions
I hear ya. Just frustrating IMO
But you’re dead wrong that it’s an hour to San Diego. An hour from L.A. is just nearing the edge of L.A.
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 5, 2011 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
i believe the only appropriate response is...
matt damon
DRUNJIFORNICATION
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Dec 4, 2011 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
this is debatable
DRUNJIFORNICATION
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Dec 4, 2011 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
Wimp, Bird Cult is running to the game.
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 8:26 PM CST reply actions
I'm awesome running through the airport
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
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by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
I got to sit at Soldier Field today
and watch that horrendous game, and I come back to this. This year is the first year that I can remember that I’m not excited about the bowl season. Not our game, not across the board. Don’t get me wrong, there are some good matchups, and I’ll watch some of them, but I’m really jaded right now.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
That was an awesome game
KC showed up like “Check this out, we are the most pathetic offensive team ever” and Chicago was all “Bitch please, get in line”
DRUNJIFORNICATION
by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Dec 4, 2011 8:28 PM CST up reply actions 13 recs
I am really happy to help make that green.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
As will I
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Dec 4, 2011 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
I'm all like "bitch please, I was the first to rec it"
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 9:21 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I applaud you, as well.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
While at work yesterday
I had a bunch of request for “Mer-lot”, flavored wines and “ice” beers (this is not a lie). In passing, I told my boss “it’s a little WT in here today, any idea why that is?”. He paused a moment and then answered, “well, the Chiefs are in town…”
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Dec 5, 2011 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
Reese thinks we just don't have the talent
we may not
but i beleive our kids can beat em, with desire
Her noblesse exceeded her oblige
BUT WE BEAT MICHIGAN!
It’s true! A BCS team!
by djwoody on Dec 4, 2011 8:35 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Anything can happen
I did not expect – along with a lot of other people – for Okie State to curb stomp Oklahoma like they did. Even if OU is riddled with injuries, etc. you don’t expect to see a Bob Stoops coached team get fucking blown out like that.
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
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by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I heard that too.
They basically had someone say “Iowa is a solid team.” Then talked about OU for 4 minutes, then Rece stops in with “huge talent disparity.”
Fuck you, Davis! Go put on a robe and prance around with May and Holtzhtzhssaha.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
Um, but it's true. There is a talent disparity between the two teams.
Mizzou, not so much. OU, yes. But they still play the games to see who wins. We’ll do fine, hopefully we get the win.
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe.
Can you name another non-injured OU player other than Landry Jones right now? I can’t. (Broyles doesn’t count, he’s hurt)
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 9:30 PM CST up reply actions
Glad you can.
But can Catnuts?
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
I can't name anybody outside of Heisman candidates and R1 prospects
if they’re outside the B10. I actually follow NFL much more than NCAA. The only NCAA games I really care about are Iowa games.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
So your answer is no, I can't. But that's not that impressive when it comes to me, unfortunately.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
Well, at least you said you try to pay attention to possible NFL draft R1 candidates.
So if OU had a massive talent disparity, I’d think you’d have heard of another guy or two.
I’m sorry if this whole discussion has an accusatory tone. I don’t mean it that way. And I do think OU has more talent than us. I’m just not sure it is a gigantic talent gap.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 9:58 PM CST up reply actions
I also don't think it's gigantic.
But I think Iowa is at its lowest NFL-caliber talent level we’ve seen since maybe 2001, that’s mostly what I’m basing it off of. I see 3 OL, 1 WR, 1TE, 2 DL, 2 LB, and 2 DB from this roster getting camp invites or drafted, and probably half of those not making the roster. It’s a down year for Iowa talent-wise.
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 10:01 PM CST up reply actions
You know, with all the upsets this year
I really don’t know what to make of ANYONE’s record other than LSU. College football just sort of exploded all over the landscape. I can’t tell if there is widespread parity/mediocrity/or WTF, which means that the bowl match ups are probably more unpredictable than in previous years.
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by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe.
I think there are 5 to 10 darn good (but maybe not great?) teams.
Then there is a second tier of about 30 or 40 pretty good teams.
Beyond that, I don’t know what to say.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
Is Iowa in your second tier?
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
Probably.
Just in the Big Ten, it probably looks like this:
Tier 1: Wisky, maybe MSU, maybe Michigan.
Tier 2: maybe MSU, maybe Michigan, PSU, Nebby, Iowa, probably OSU. Maybe Illinois or jNW, but I’m leaning against them right now.
Not in the top 50, nationally: PurWho, IU, Minny. Maybe Illinois or jNW if I’m feeling dickish.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah.
No talent Iowa will prolly put more players in the NFL than Oklahoma.
by ThunderHawk13 on Dec 4, 2011 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
TYLER-MUTHAFUCKIN'-SASH
Sorry. It just felt appropriate.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 5, 2011 9:24 AM CST up reply actions
What bowl did Notre Dame get?
I missed that somehow.
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Champs vs. Florida State
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by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
They're reliving all of their late 80s/early 90s glory days in bowls, I guess.
Miami last year, FSU this year…
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yeah, remember when ND-FSU meant something?
Rocket Ismail and such.
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
In the heyday of Bobby Bowden and Lou Holth...
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Srsly?
ND made it to 6 wins? Did they play the Little Sisters of the Poor?
/Gordon Gee’d.
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by EnergizerHawk on Dec 4, 2011 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
Other BCS bowl lines
CoversSports Covers.com Team
More BCS bowl openers from Vegas odds service: Sugar: Virginia Tech (-2.5, 54) vs Michigan, Orange: WVU vs. Clemson (-1.5, 55)
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
VT favorites vs Michigan? Not sure I understand that one.
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
VT going to hang 70 on them?
Only thing that makes sense.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Dec 4, 2011 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
I guess Vegas doesn't think much of Denard.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
that would seem silly
He’s good.
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
I am counting about twice
in 12 years that we’ve shown the ability to get blown out in a bowl. (02 Orange, and 06 Outback. And actually, after I look it up, we only lost the 06 Outback by a TD).
Stoops can not say the same in terms of disappointing in Bowls.
I’m not ready to project an Iowa win, but I bet we don’t lose by more than 10, at worst.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
i was honestly hoping penn state would pull a notre dame
and the players would decline any bowl invite without joepa. would’ve been touching.
/sorry
The University is donating any bowl money to
an anti-sexual violence group. Would seem a slightly dick-move if the players refused to make the trip.
Also, for the future sake of PSU football, perhaps they should not be shunning mid-to-lower-tier Big Ten bowls.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
When I think football, I think Madonna.
Cheering for inconsistent, undisciplined teams [Twins, Wild, Packers, Hawkeyes] since 1989. "False Hope is better than No Hope"
I've been living in OK for 8 years now
and i’m waaaaaaay tired of the Sooners. Get much $hit for wearing Iowa gear, I don’t think I could handle it if we laid waste to the beloved Sooner Nation down here. I hope to hell we click on all cylinders and win this one, just to shut these retarded rednecks up.
You live in Oklahoma?
My condolences. What a festering shithole that state is.
by ThunderHawk13 on Dec 4, 2011 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, right outside Muskogee
and festering is way too kind. At least I get to go back home to Iowa a couple times a year and recoup
Wow.
I’ve been to OKC, it was okay to kinda-cool.
I’m curious what Stillwater and Tulsa are like.
I’ve driven through Norman, and the panhandle, and was not impressed.
I imagine the rest of the state to be just as you depicted it: festering shit-hole.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
Tulsa is OK, we go up there about once every two weeks to get away from the NASCAR crowd for a few hours. Tried to go to Stillwater last year for the Iowa wrestling meet but my kids had their own wrestling tournament. They start their kids on that BS stalling type of wrestling right out the bat. My kids are grinders, straight ahead and in your face on the wrestling mat. Had a few parents call them “overly aggressive” and I’m like, no, you’re kids are just pansies and couldn’t wrestle themselves out of a paper bag.
Douchebag update: die hard Sooner fan across the street just put up a brand new Sooner football flag and wished the “Hawk-things” good luck in the bowl game when I went outside to get the dog. If there is a supreme being, he’ll let Vandy rip 350 yards, Coker beast mode into 3 touchdowns and as many run-overs of DBs, and McNutt pull in a few TDs. And Landry Jone’s gets his mustache knocked back to 1976. Please?
I hope all of those last two sentences
comes true.
And wrestling does seem like an odd choice for their kids if they aren’t fond of aggression. That whole sport is aggression. Otherwise, it would just be dancing with headgear.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
Amari Spievey just got burned by Jimmy Graham.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
most of the night, sadly.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 9:58 PM CST up reply actions
In fairness,
Jimmy Graham has been burning plenty of people this year.
And Spievey is a safety now, right?
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
yes on both
But he’s been playing man coverage on Graham for a good portion of the night because of Graham’s prowess this year. And it has not looked great.
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
Wow, that is strait bullshit
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 9:47 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
That's not good
Transfer rumors commencing….now
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by chitownhawkeye on Dec 4, 2011 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
You are about a week and a half late.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
Good point
sad point, but good
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by chitownhawkeye on Dec 4, 2011 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
Rec'd
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 5, 2011 9:27 AM CST up reply actions
Like I said in the Marcus Grant post
I’m just biding time until the McCall “Gone, Baby, Gone” article is posted on the main page
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
4 more RB signees again next year, bring it on.
The revolving door is beyond ridiculous at this point. Which is another reason people need to give Coker a LOT more props for the workload he’s taken and the longevity and numbers he’s producing.
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
Coker was a beast this year
but he can’t keep it up. Nor should he be asked to. I really have a problem with the way Ferentz has used him this season, I just hope it doesn’t bite us in the ass
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
To be fair to KF
i think you are basing that more off of the percentage of carries he has, not the number. Because there are a few other running backs with more. We are throwing it quite a lot this year and while I would like to get other guys some more carries, I dont think he is getting overworked THAT bad
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 11:01 PM CST up reply actions
Sure, he's not Bobby Rainey at 370 carries...
But he also doesn’t play in the WAC, and he doesn’t the option read every play to the outside. He gets hit by LBs and D-Lineman almost every carry. It’s worth noting the differences.
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by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 5, 2011 9:30 AM CST up reply actions
Who hasn't been giving him mad props?
You act like there’s someone out there who doesn’t like what he’s doing or something.
meh
Did he say anything particular? or just tone?
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 9:48 PM CST up reply actions
I think it was Mas Casa, asked if his agent had been contacted by them
He said something about how would he know if they’d talked to his agent. Then said he’d be the coach at Iowa next year. Snorted, made some comment about it being ridiculous (I think the reporter said “I had to ask”). The tone was not good, either
"Snorted, made some comment about it being ridiculous"
Snorting cocaine is a stimulant, I am sure he just gets very paranoid.
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 9:55 PM CST up reply actions
I really hope
if Kirk ever decides to leave Iowa for the NFL or another college, that he is at least straight-forward about it.
I think, if he acted like Saban did just before he went from the Dolphins to Bama, or if he acted like Urb did with the Ohio State dance, then that might be what gets me to start booing KF.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 9:55 PM CST up reply actions
They all dance to that tune
He’ll be back next year. James will be a senior and his youngest (Steven) will be a senior at City High. The wild card, and a quick search did not show a solid answer, is if Steven is D1 quality and wants to play for Iowa. It doesn’t appear that he is but you never know.
If he wants to coach pro, there are openings every year. Reading between the lines of his answers over the years, I don’t think he really does anymore. Maybe a front office job somewhere.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
I might be totally making this up
But it seems like I read somewhere that Steven was a senior this year and was going to walk on at Iowa next year.
by Captain n Diet Coker on Dec 5, 2011 9:19 AM CST up reply actions
D1 Quality? It's his son.
He will play for Iowa.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 5, 2011 9:32 AM CST up reply actions
Do you really think
that if the kid can’t cut it athletically, Kirk will overlook that. He might to a point, but if the kid isn’t good enough I don’t think Dad will let him in “just because”.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Respectfully Disagree.
Coach’s kid. He’s in. Walk on if he’s not good.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 5, 2011 9:52 AM CST up reply actions
Yes, at the minimum.
FWIW, Kirk can afford the in-state tuition. buh da boom
I don't even think he has to worry about tuition
And I’m not talking about being to afford it. Don’t kids of university staff members get free tuition anyway?
by Captain n Diet Coker on Dec 5, 2011 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
That's how it flies at private institutions
I have friends whose parents teach at Drake, she got free tuition anywhere in the State of Iowa, just not at a public college.
Not sure about Public Institutions.
by Black&Gold.Forever on Dec 5, 2011 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
If I were Morehouse,
I’d have followed that up with:
“The Jaguars job is open again. Are you going to have your agent flirt with them all bowl season, again?”
Then drop the mic, and strut out of that place.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 9:59 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
rec
So you DO know how job searches and salary negotiations work (shot at your comment directly above this one)
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 10:04 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I know.
I just am not happy that it has to be that way. I know it was a different era, with way less money at stake, but I somehow don’t see Hayden Fry, Joe Paterno, or Bo Schembechler pulling that shit.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
Paterno tossed going to the Steelers around.
They hired Chuck Noll instead. Bo thought hard about aTm I think. I don’t recall anything about Hayden right off the top of my head.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Dec 5, 2011 7:17 AM CST up reply actions
I know they did do that.
I just wasn’t sure either pulled a large raise from the situation.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 5, 2011 8:27 AM CST up reply actions
Hayden was approached by USC in either '84 or '86
when Iowa was in California for either the Freedom Bowl or the Rose Bowl (85 team). I think it was the latter. It went as far as him going to his assistant coaches to get their feedback, and he turned it down.
FOUR. THREE. COVER. TWO.
There's You Tubes of him talking about that, I think.
Hayden said it would be a “lot easier to win the mNC at USC” but I don’t think they would ever have worshipped him at USC like he is still worshipped at Iowa, even if he’d won big there.
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by The Bird Cult on Dec 5, 2011 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
You forgot
“Mas Casa, OUT”
But otherwise, spot on.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Dec 4, 2011 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
It's too bad UNM already hired Mason,
I hear they take their sports way more seriously down there.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Dec 5, 2011 11:21 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Naw.
They’re just a football school like the rest of us.
But I still rec’d that.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 5, 2011 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
I came in to fantasy today needing to beat the number 1 seed,
and I needed the number 3 seed to lose. My 3 running backs carried me to victory. I need Stafford to score 10 more points this game for my opponent to lose. It’s gonna happen right? RIGHT?
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 9:51 PM CST reply actions
4 or 6 for a TD pass?
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 9:57 PM CST up reply actions
4, 1 point per 25 yards. They will be playing from 2 td's back so its possible
He should have just had one if Burleson knew how to run
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
Down to 5 points. I need just 6 yards and a TD
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
that might happen
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
I heard some guy mention tonight that Bob Stoops could've coached at Iowa
Weird. Never heard that before.
by mikjones24 on Dec 4, 2011 10:13 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
LOL
I’m still wondering why we didn’t get Stagg or Pop Warner in 1999.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
You'd think that sort of thing would've been discussed around here
Stupid press making things us
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Dec 4, 2011 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
I will say this about Iowa
we always always ALWAYS show up for bowls under Ferentz. When your only losses in bowls are 1. to a future dynasty team and national champion, 2. to a team a year off a national title when you were 6-6, and 3. one of the most corrupt officiating cases i have ever seen or heard of, you have a right to brag about being a great bowl team
never count Iowa out of a bowl game, its the one game we show up for every time
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 4, 2011 10:17 PM CST reply actions
That and PSU.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 10:19 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
OSU, SEC record nonwithstanding, can be included too. everyone else is meh to tire fire bowl record wise in the BIG (i think)
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 4, 2011 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
So you guys are in the Mieneke, right?
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 10:27 PM CST up reply actions
no gulp necessary
i think you guys get this win to be honest. A&M is a paper tiger
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 4, 2011 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
Still
if their offense shows up, it’s gonna be tough.
But I’m excited to be there for it (member of NUMB); sure beats trying to stop Toledo’s offense in Detroit or God knows what else.
Just outscore the fuckers
It’s not like your weakness is point-scoring.
by ThunderHawk13 on Dec 4, 2011 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
Member of NUMB
Waddya play? There’s some HMB presence here on the board.
PS – I hope you enjoyed your trip to Iowa City this year (minus the game)
fyi there is a HMB fossil presence as well
95 – 98/trumpet
by clayborn2run on Dec 5, 2011 5:44 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Sousaphone.
Excellence through apathy.
And thanks to HMB for the great hospitality throughout the trip!
those who do not recognize history
are bound to repeat it
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry.
I have a LOT of pent-up rage against NW from this decade.
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
No apology necessary.
I consider myself incredibly pessimistic about NU sports in lots of stuff (bowl games, basketball, etc), and this just rings of one of those things we’ll lose.
I suppose you have a right to have some rage. No resentment here.
I daresay you guys can win that.
I would think ATM morale would have to be real low, with the coaching situation and the move to the SEC.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
I was talking to my brother in law this weekend
he’s a Kansas fan and lives down there. He is still shocked that Missouri is going to the SEC. I believe his exact words were, “Whoever arranged for that needs a raise”. The SEC picks up the Kansas City and St. Louis markets and another patsy. A&M is the same. They get the Texas markets and a team to beat up. I get A&M’s motivation, but I think Mizzou is going to regret it.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Dec 4, 2011 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
Mizzou was clearly a better fit in the B10
For every reason possible. But they never got that pork chop on the end of Delaney’s stick.
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
Right now, Mizzou and TAMU enter the SEC as
the 8th and 9th best football teams/programs (I consider Arky, Bama, Aubie, LSU, Florida, Georgia, and SoCarolina ahead of them at the moment and for the near future). They’ll probably be better than that in hoops.
The big thing is that they found a conference where Texas-Austin doesn’t call the shots, and where the league isn’t going to collapse in the next 5 to 20 years.
Also, I’d guess they get a better piece of the tv-money-pie by being in the SEC than in the B12.
The bad news: they are almost assuredly going to lose to LSU, Bama, and one of the other big programs every year for awhile. It’s kind of a bitch beginning each year being only one loss away from .500 in conference.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
With Mizzou
it was really a case of saving face, I truly believe that. They’d made such a stink about leaving and so many overtures, to be left in the same situation or worse, behind if the Big Boys left, was too much to stomach.
I don’t think there was any strong desire to end up in the SEC and that not only was the B1G their preferred destination but that they would rather have gone to the Big East with the Kansas schools sooner than heading into the SEC. But in the end it was all that was left to them and they felt they needed to do something.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Dec 5, 2011 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
I think Chazz was saying we always show up for PSU, not PSU shows up in bowls.
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
either way would work
PSU does actually show up for bowls
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 4, 2011 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
True but I think they will get slapped against Houston, hope not.
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
Houston hasnt really played many quality teams
and when they ran against one they got bitchmade. PSU is heads and shoulders above every other team they played defensively.
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 4, 2011 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
Case Keenum
is gonna get abused by Penn State.
by ThunderHawk13 on Dec 4, 2011 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, clay-born.
That is exactly what I was saying.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
oof.
Funny, but, yeah.
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 10:32 PM CST up reply actions
It's going to be 10 fucking degrees here tomorrow morning.
Fuck.
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Its going to be 29 fucking degrees here on Tuesday morning
Fuck. I might have to cover up the dwarf orange tree, which has at least 10 lbs of oranges on it but they won’t be ready until late next month…
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by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
Pussies. It's gonna be sunny and 70 again here.
We should try to make one of those “Rose Bowls” to enjoy it.
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 10:32 PM CST up reply actions
I know. I keep hoping. I'll probably move out of California and we'll make the Rose Bowl right after that
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by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
God Damn it the Lions don't want me to win! I am convinced.
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 10:19 PM CST reply actions
I'm pretty sure the Lions don't want anyone to win
not even themselves half the time.
Also, didn’t one of their guys just shove a ref?
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
From what I could tell, he was trying to push the opponent and the ref stepped in so it looked bad.
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
The Lions are a very stupid team.
As a fan of another stupid team (the Raiders) I recognize it quite well.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I had about a 2 hour long argument today with my friend who is a Raiders fan.
He is convinced that because the Raiders are more balanced they deserve the playoffs over the Broncos. I tried to explain they played the same schedule basically and if Denver wins more they deserve it. Then he tried to say that because the Broncos would probably get shut down and lose in the playoffs, that means they didn’t deserve to make it either. So some of their fans join their players in the stupid category.
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 10:27 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, that's a pretty nonsensical argument.
I’m rooting like hell for the Raiders to make the playoffs (obviously), but if the Broncos finish with more wins, well, then they should certainly go to the playoffs. They’ll have earned it.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Yeah, you're friend is wrong.
But, if the Broncos make the playoffs, and look like shit in the first round (particularly on offense), then many people will again call for Tebow to be benched. Right now, we are just at the point where the media is starting to buy into Tebow’s “winning ways.”
Meanwhile, if the Raiders lose early in the playoffs, that is expected. If they win, people will continue the Hue Jackson love-fest (which is a bit over-hyped to me at this point).
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, don't be knocking his chances to get a SECOND year as the Raiders coach
That’s an accomplishment.
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
That's why I said "a bit" over-hyped.
The guy may be a helluva coach. Or, he may be Marvin Lewis 2.0.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
With Davis dead
that may no longer be the case. We don’t know yet
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Dec 4, 2011 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
don't step on my implied joke, broseph!
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
Chitown,
are you saying “don’t joke that it will be an accomplishment” or “don’t joke that he will be assured a second year?”
I think Al Davis’s son (who I think still has a controlling interest in the ownership?) also likes Jackson.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 10:57 PM CST up reply actions
More that we don't really know
how Davis’s son will be as an owner. I don’t think anyone expects him to be as vocal in controlling the coach and players, but…maybe
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Dec 4, 2011 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
I just can't dislike Tebow, I am sorry to most of you haterz.
He actually looked capable today as well. I will admit I hated him at Florida because they acted like he was the second coming, in the NFL they all trashed him. I am hoping he doesnt become too good because I will probably end up hating him again but I can’t dislike someone who just wins games like that.
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
I don't hate him.
But, there are plenty of good-to-great college QBs that didn’t get this many chances to be so-so.
/I’m still bitter about Brad Banks and the Redskins.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
Can't really blame them for doing it, he is a winner.
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
Which is fine, as long as they keep winning.
But how many Super-Bowl teams (in the last 15 years) have arrived there on the back of a running QB and a decent-to-good RB? You gotta’ chuck it, at some point.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 11:07 PM CST up reply actions
That's perfect for the Redskins
They have Grossman now
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by chitownhawkeye on Dec 4, 2011 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
I think he can be a better passer than given credit.
His number one receiver is Eric fucking Decker. In the sugar bowl 2 years ago Tebow was 31/35 for 482 and 3 td’s. I realize it was against Cincy but that’s still ridiculous.
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
I've watched a lot of Tebow this year
his receivers have had a lot of drops, which when you’re attempting 10 passes a game makes a huge difference.
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
Give him a couple receivers out of this year's draft and it could go far.
Maybe Alshonn Jeffery then Mcnutt.
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 11:16 PM CST up reply actions
Meh.
Seems like quite a bit of Tebow’s throwing in college was jump-passes or shovel passes or some other shit that DLs can take to the house in the NFL.
And I think Decker is a rising talent. Eddie Royal, when healthy, is pretty decent.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 11:16 PM CST up reply actions
I dont think he passes for 500 yards with just jump passes and shovels.
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 11:17 PM CST up reply actions
By quite a bit,
I mean 20 or 30 %.
Yes, he still threw it to WRs and TEs plenty.
This year in the NFL, he’s completing all of 46% of his passes. That ain’t good.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 11:22 PM CST up reply actions
It's ok, I have enough hate for the both of us
Right now, Tebow is enjoying success due to the “Flutie Effect”. He is such an unique talent, that defenses haven’t been able figure him out yet. But they will. And when they do, his deficiencies are going to be killers. Much like the namesake, Doug Flutie. Flutie was famous for taking over for an injured QB late in a season, coming in and just driving defenses insane. He’d then inevitably win the starting job the next season and immediately go back into the dumpster fire playing style once teams actually had film on him. I expect nothing less than the same from Senor Tebow
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
No, that doesn't make me hate him
the absolute fawning press coverage he has received since the day he stepped foot on campus is what makes me hate him. That, and at this point, his shit has gotten phony.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I dont really think it is his fault that he gets the press coverage,
even thought that is why I used to hate him as well.
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 11:25 PM CST up reply actions
It's a razor-thin edge
he isn’t to blame for a lot of it; at the same time, he’s really started to milk it. I can’t tell you the number of times I, while casually watching the game (read: glancing at it every few minutes), saw Tebow on the sidelines “Tebowing”. Granted, a large part of that is the media fixating on a trend, but a lot of it is also him jumping on it and just overdoing it so that he is SEEN to do it.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I dont really mean to argue too much about this
but if he really is this religious, is he not supposed to pray? He didn’t tell the cameras to look at him. Maybe he should go into the locker room from now on every time he wants to pray?
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 11:36 PM CST up reply actions
Skirting the line here
But yes, that’s actually exactly what he should do
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I would venture a guess that there are more people praying on the sidelines
then they show. I suppose it’s his fault that he is apparently doing it for show. Oh i have got it! They should put up a small tent on the sidelines that he can go into when he feels the need to pray
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 11:41 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe he should spend more time developing his passing abilities.
I’m not against praying. But it feels a little like he is more image than substance right now.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 11:38 PM CST up reply actions
Chazz and I in agreement
about players’ personal lives? Dogs lying down with cats? has the world gone crazy?
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
2012 is coming up, dude.
I gotta make peace while I can.
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by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
Flutie was much better suited to the CFL style game of finesse at his size
I always find it hilarious he’s listed at 5’10-11’ when he’s likely a lot closer to 5’8" on a good day.
I’ll bet he could still tear up a flag football league NO problem.
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
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by The Bird Cult on Dec 5, 2011 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
Whole lotta "waaagh we're gonna lose" around here.
Fuck that noise. We don’t lose in the Insight Bowl, ladies and gents.
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
Undefeated. Clap clap, clap clap clap!
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 10:28 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Damn straight.
TUMOR SOONER
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Dec 4, 2011 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
THE TOM BRANDS INTENSITY IN ME IS COMING BACK, BABY!
WE ARE GOING TO BEAT THE SOONERS. THEN FLY TO NEW ORLEANS AND BEAT A COMBINATION OF LSU AND ALABAMA.
THEN, WE FLY TO INDY AND BEAT ANY NFL TEAM THAT WANTS TO SHOW UP FOR A SUPER BOWL ASS-KICKING!
/I just got Rhabdo while typing all this.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
YOU GOTTA HYDRATE, CHAZZ
I GOT A CASE OF DR. PEPPER 10 COMING YOUR WAY. DON’T LET ANY WOMEN TOUCH IT; THEY’LL LOSE THE BABY IF THEY’RE CARRYING.
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Dec 4, 2011 10:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
WHAT IF I WANT THEM TO LOSE THE BABY?
I CAN’T BE ENCUMBERED BY A FAMILY RIGHT NOW! I’VE GOT TO WORK OUT 25 HOURS PER DAY!
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
GIVE 'EM TO BRANDS
MCDONOUGH NEEDS PRACTICE FODDER
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Dec 4, 2011 10:48 PM CST up reply actions
We ate together tonight
By ate togther, I mean he and the entire team were at the table next to me at Outback.
NO RULES JUST RIGHT BRO
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Dec 4, 2011 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
Did you send them a bloomin' onion
and ask for an autograph? Because that would be very classy.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
I once saw Gable in a sushi bar.
Same reaction, with a heavy side-dose of awe.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 4, 2011 10:53 PM CST up reply actions
You should've sat next to him and ordered a Granby roll.
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Dec 4, 2011 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
My take -
I would rather Iowa played in Texas, for purely selfish reasons. Houston, 3 hours, the Cotton Bowl, 15 minutes. Having said that, I’m glad to holy hell Iowa isn’t playing Baylor. Robert Griffin would have gotten eleventypurple yards against us. I don’t hate the Oklahoma matchup. They’re hurt, they’ll be disinterested, Landry Jones isn’t Robert Griffin or the 7 foot dude from KSU. This could have been better (for me, too) but it could have been a shitload worse. What does it mean to beat, say A&M? Talk about a no win proposition. And it would have been fun to play and beat Texas, which has nothing this year. But, in any event, I do no hate this.
Being aTm
means someone’s finally won a bowl game in the last 62 years.
But yes, means less for you. I think OU is a decent matchup for Iowa, and you’re absolutely right that it could be much, much worse.
FWIW, I don't hate your AtM matchup.
A healthy Persa, indoors, can gash those dudes and make their heads spin. And Sherman isn’t exactly going out on a gracious note. Disarry, thy name will be AtM
I don't either.
But I won’t be surprised if, on December 31st, I’m left scratching my head wondering how the hell we screwed the pooch again.
I think you guys can beat them - easily
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
http://www.thebirdcult.net
by The Bird Cult on Dec 4, 2011 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
Are you sure you're not thinking of @DollyLlama?
Because I’m pretty sure that’s Teddy Ruxpin’s niece or something.
I didn't invent the black turtleneck, but I was the first to recognize its potential as a tactical garment.
by KilometersDavis on Dec 4, 2011 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
Why did I chose to follow Chris Hassel?
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
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by Pain in the Sash on Dec 4, 2011 10:32 PM CST reply actions
Seeing as how this thing's winding down
how’s about a big gif?
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
You know I'm in favor.
Unless it is Spider-lady from (was that HawkCP or Kluginator?)
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
In unrelated news
and that was probably covered elsewhere, MSU fans are reacting with all the class, dignity and respect for opponents that we’ve come to expect from them over at OTE
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Is OTE like a blog for all of the big ten?
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 11:18 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
in theory. But in reality it is nothing more than MSU fans turning every thread into an attack on Michigan and OSU fans expressing their superiority.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Yeah.
It has a pretty big contingent of OSU fans. I haven’t noticed a ton of Michigan or PSU fans over there. Then, you have some Iowa fans. There are also a few Wisky fans. I don’t usually see many fans of the “lower” teams like IU, Illinois, Minny, etc. There are a couple each of jNW fans, Purdue fans, and Nebby fans.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
I've seen fans of every team
except maybe Indiana. But everyone tends to get drowned out and the place has become overrun by inflated senses of personal grievance. My favorite is the absolute vitriol Bama Hawkeye gets every week by fans of one team or another butthurt over the fact that he doesn’t have their team in the BCS Championship/Rose Bowl.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I was just reading over there.
MSU is so butthurt that Michigan made the BCS over them. It has nothing to do with head to head, pals. You had more losses you should have expected it and not so mad when it happened.
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 11:37 PM CST up reply actions
MSU fans are the very definition of "little brother"
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
This is why Sparty can't have nice things.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 4, 2011 11:38 PM CST up reply actions
OTE is a place of trends
Sometimes the trend is snooty OSU or whiney MSU fans……….actually the trend is almost always snooty OSU fans or whiney MSU fans this season. there are other fans but the snooty OSU fan and the whiney MSU fan are easily the easiest to characterize.
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 5, 2011 12:33 AM CST up reply actions
I'm shocked. Shocked.
It’s not like they weren’t warned. History is not on the side of the CCG loser
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Dec 4, 2011 11:19 PM CST up reply actions
Outback
which is where the CCG loser was projected to go, IIRC
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Dec 4, 2011 11:25 PM CST up reply actions
I am kind of amused that the Outback Bowl has the loser of the B1G title game vs. the loser of the SEC title game.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Well, it's more the fact
that there was no way the Cap One was taking those two again, especially MSU. So, instead, the Outback Bowl gets to host the highly-sought-after rematch of the 2009 Cap One Bowl!
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I was kind of surprised that the CapOne decided they'd rather have South Carolina than Georgia.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Will we be ranked at the end of the year if we beat Oklahoma? lol
Texas and Auburn are still top 25. They are both 7-5 and have been absolutely, brutally stomped multiple times each.
by clay-born to party on Dec 4, 2011 11:38 PM CST reply actions
Good night, all.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
For anyone still here:
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by Yabbs on Dec 4, 2011 11:45 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
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"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Dec 4, 2011 11:48 PM CST up reply actions
Darn.
Game starts at 9pm Central. I land in Houston at 10:04. Thank goodness for DVR, amirite?
Twitterz: @EnergizerHawk
I'm actually in Arizona visiting relatives this December.
But my plane leaves Phoenix half an hour before kickoff. Ultimate misfortune, right there.
by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Dec 5, 2011 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
If ever there was a time to "miss your flight" that'd be it, right there.
Twitterz: @EnergizerHawk
by EnergizerHawk on Dec 5, 2011 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
Couldn't resist.
I’ve rearranged things with my flight and bought tickets.
Hopefully we win, because one of those trophies is definitely too few.
by 99FormationsButFourWideAin'tOne on Dec 5, 2011 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
This action is EnergizerHawk approved.
/SEAL OF APPROVAL!
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by EnergizerHawk on Dec 5, 2011 11:03 PM CST up reply actions
I just snickered at the people going through my line
after reading this
Urban Meyer’s heart on a pole match!
I hope he says he’s pregnant to get out tOSU when he wants to
and that's another Hawkeye first down... EHAWW!!
Can someone please explain to me how a team
that isn’t even good enough to play in its own conference championship game can be the best team in the country? Because I really struggle with that one.
Also, please explain how someone could be a proponent of a playoff system but be opposed to making winning your own conference a pre-requisite for entry into the national title game. Because it should be settled on the field, right? Right???
by DrHenryKillinger on Dec 5, 2011 10:14 AM CST reply actions
Well, Bama did finish second in the division
to LSU, who is undefeated and #1.
Basically, we are left to compare losses:
Bama lost at home in OT to LSU.
Okie State lost on the road in OT at ISU.
Stanford lost at home to Oregon.
etc. etc.
We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.
by WaterlooChazz on Dec 5, 2011 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
This happened before.
Nebraska got curb-stomped by Colorado on the last game of the regular season. Colorado wont he Big XII North. Nebraska played Miami in the Rose Bowl for the MNC. HOLY SHIT THAT’S WEIRD.
meh
Can't we just crown LSU the champs
and have Bama & Ok St play for second place?
"Pursue happiness... with diligence."
by Bucketochicken on Dec 5, 2011 1:33 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I would be totally Ok with this
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Dec 5, 2011 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
LOVE THIS.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 5, 2011 10:23 PM CST up reply actions
This would only be appropriate
since Alabama got to sit on their ass to “earn” the no. 2 spot.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Dec 6, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
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