Go West, Young Hawkeye: Big Ten And Pac-12 Enter Into Scheduling Agreement
The Big Ten and Pac-12 have been playing footsie together for decades (and making out in public once a year in Pasadena), but they're about to increase of the profile of their relationship significantly:
The Big Ten and Pacific-12 are extending their partnership well beyond the Rose Bowl, announcing Wednesday that they'll step up interconference scheduling, cross-promote on their respective television networks and even set up academic and cultural exchanges....
By 2017, each team's nonconference football schedule will include one game against a team from the other league. One could be featured annually as a preseason kickoff event, perhaps staged at the Rose Bowl. Others could be played in neighboring NFL stadiums, including the planned Farmers Field in downtown Los Angeles, the San Francisco 49ers' new facility or Chicago's Soldier Field.
Basketball games similarly could land in such NBA arenas as Los Angeles' Staples Center or Chicago's United Center, four teams sometimes gathering for doubleheaders.
Many sports, including men's and women's basketball, are expected to start bumping up interconference scheduling as soon as 2012-13. Football's schedules typically are built years in advance and would require a ramp-up to 2017.
Given the general poor quality of non-conference scheduling over the last few years, I think we can all agree that anything that should improve that situation is a Very Good Thing. But what's it mean for Iowa?
FOOTBALL: In a way, this agreement formalizes something Iowa had already been doing. Iowa's preferred football scheduling format for the last several years has been one guarantee game, one non-BCS foe, one BCS foe, and Iowa State. From 2000-2010, Iowa played a Pac-12 (or Pac-10, as it were) team four times: home and home with Arizona State in 2003 and 2004 and home and home with Arizona in 2009 and 2010. In years where they didn't play a Pac-12 team, they played a Big East team (Syracuse in 2006 and 2007, Pitt in 2008 and 2011; there are also scheduled dates with Pitt in 2014 and 2015); this might simply transform the opponent in that second BCS game into a Pac-12 team every year.
This agreement also increases the possibility of Iowa playing a team like USC or Oregon in Kinnick, or traveling to the Palouse to take on Cap'n Leach and his merry band of brigands*. In theory, those games could have happened without the arrangement, but in reality it was difficult to make them happen. This arrangement would seem to make it easier to create those games. (Of course, we could also draw Utah or Colorado or one of the Arizona schools again, if you want to go all Commander Buzzkill on this notion.) Is it likely? Probably not, but who knows. Football schedules are typically set years in advance, which makes it difficult to do matchup-based scheduling (like the Big Ten-ACC Challenge in basketball); we might just see a rotation instead. Or not; there are still a lot of details in this arrangement that need to be hammered down. For now, it's fun to just dream of the possibilities -- and be excited about the prospect of actually playing non-conference games worth a damn.
* Yes, it's probably unwise to get excited about potential match-ups based on current coaching staffs -- by 2017, Lane Kiffin could be the head coach of the Orlando Pirates (is the idea of him coaching a South African soccer team really that far-fetched?) -- but for Cap'n Leach, we'll happily make an exception.
Of course, there's also the potential for this arrangement to throw a spanner into Iowa's series with its most-frequent non-conference opponent -- Iowa State. If the Big Ten goes ahead with a nine-game conference schedule, it would be very difficult to reconcile the needs of this arrangement, a home-and-home with Iowa State, AND the athletic department's stated need to play seven home games. It could be done, but it could require some very, very tricky scheduling (and that's just for Iowa; lord knows how tricky it gets when you factor in all the other Big Ten teams, several of whom also have regular games against certain non-conference opponents). In the article linked above, Delany noted that the Big Ten would likely "rethink" its decision to move to a nine-game conference schedule; if the end result of that "rethink" is a move to scrap it, the Iowa State series is likely untouched and Iowa simply slides an annual game against a Pac-12 team into the 2nd BCS Opponent slot on their Non-Conference Scheduling Plan. But if they decide to keep the nine-game conference schedule, it could definitely be the end of the Iowa-Iowa State series as we know it. So, ultimately, Iowa might be forced to choose between more frequent games with the likes of Illinois, Wisconsin, Penn State, and Ohio State or annual games with Iowa State -- what would your choice be? Hit up the poll.
BASKETBALL: Can you name the last BCS school that Iowa played a home-and-home against in men's basketball (not counting the annual in-state series with Iowa State)? Would you believe it was Arizona State in 2005-2006 and 2006-2007? (Iowa split those games, for the record.) Iowa's non-conference schedules in men's basketball have been a sore spot for several years; outside of the in-state foes and the ACC team they bring in every other year for the Big Ten-ACC Challenge**, we rarely play non-conference opponents of interest, unless we happen to run into them in a tournament. Pac-12 basketball isn't what it used to be (a Big Ten-Pac 12 Challenge would be hilariously lopsided this year), but Pac-12 teams are still opponents with more caché than the Chicago States and Campbells of the world. Bring on non-conference opponents with a pulse!
** And since those matchups are based on the teams' records from the prior year, we've drawn a few dog opponents in recent years.
WRESTLING: This is the first sport where this arrangement doesn't seem like an immediate positive. Just as they do in other sports, the NCAA limits the number of events a team can compete in during the wrestling season, although I'm not positive what that number is for wrestling. Iowa has a number of annual opponents (or events) that they face in non-conference competition: Iowa State, Oklahoma State, UNI, and the Midlands Championships. It would be disastrous to lose either the annual Iowa State or Oklahoma State dual meets. On the other hand, a dual with the likes of Arizona State, Oregon State, Stanford, Cal Poly, or Boise State replacing the likes of the Iowa City Duals wouldn't be a terrible thing.
WOMEN'S BASKETBALL: The women's basketball team has done a better job of scheduling interesting non-conference opponents in recent years than the men; they just completed a home-and-home series with Kansas State and before that they played a home-and-home with Kansas. Chances are regular games with Pac-12 teams would simply replace those games on their schedule.
BASEBALL: Hey, a chance for B1G baseball teams to get their brains beat in by more talented teams from warmer climates! Uh... yay? Yeah, this probably isn't going to help the struggling baseball team's fortunes all that much.
OTHER OLYMPIC SPORTS: I confess, I have no idea how they handle scheduling and what impact this will have on them.
Finally, there's also the question of what this arrangement might have on recruiting. Playing one game every other year out west isn't exactly sweeping change... but it's something. At the very least, it should give Iowa more visibility in the region, which is never a bad thing.
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FIFDelany
By 2017, each team’s nonconference football schedule will include one game against a team from the other league. One could be featured annually as a preseason kickoff event, perhaps staged at the Rose Bowl. Others could be played in neighboring NFL stadiums, including the planned Farmers Field in downtown Los Angeles, the San Francisco 49ers’ new facility orChicago’s Soldier FieldIndianapolis’s Lucas Oil Stadium.
Basketball games similarly could land in such NBA arenas as Los Angeles’ Staples Center orChicago’s United CenterIndianapolis’s Conseco Fieldhouse, four teams sometimes gathering for doubleheaders.
Many sports, including men’s and women’s basketball, are expected to start bumping up interconference scheduling as soon as 2012-13. Football’s schedules typically are built years in advance and would require a ramp-up to 2017.
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UPDATES
- The 9-game B1G schedule is effectively dead. The 5-4 home-away split was a dealbreaker. Sounds like they weren’t crazy about adding an idea that would guarantee six more losses for B1G teams every year, either.
- Iowa/Iowa State shouldn’t be impacted at all. Like I said above, instead of “Random BCS Opponent” in that “Second BCS Opponent” slot on our scheduling plan it’s now going to be “Random Pac-12 Opponent”.
- Still figuring out how to schedule that Pac 12 team — i.e., maybe home-and-homes, maybe three four-team pods, etc.
- It officially starts in 2017, but there are already B1G-P12 games scheduled for the next few years and the ADs are likely going to try and schedule one another prior to 2017 if they have open spots. FWIW, Iowa has an open slot for another BCS opponent in 2016 based on their current schedule. They also only have one BCS opponent on their 2012 and 2013 schedules (Iowa State), but they’d have to dump a MAC team (which would involve a buyout) to add a Pac-12 team. Not sure if that’s fiscally sound or not.
- The B1G’s current TV deals expire in 2016. This deal starts in 2017. Look for them to load up the early years of the deal with a few really big match-ups (OSU-USC? Michigan-Oregon? Vice versa?) to try and make them extra-enticing and spur ESPN/ABC to shell out even more cash for the next TV deal.
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I love the pods idea.
It would give the whole thing a round robin feel. I used WSR’s matchups for the Pac12 pods, and tried to regionalize the B1G pods.
Warning: Wall of text coming, due to comment format limitations
B1G 1
Iowa
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Nebraska
B1G 2
Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
Penn State
B1G 3
Illinois
Indiana
Purdue
Northwestern
Pac 1
Utah
UCLA
Washington
Colorado
Pac 2
Arizona
Oregon State
Oregon
USC
Pac 3
Arizona State
Washington State
Cal
Stanford
From there, scheduling should be fairly simple. For simplicity (?) I’ll use variables first, then show Pod 1’s B1G breakdown.
2017: B1 @ P1; P2 @ B2; B3 @ P3; P4 @ B4
2018: P3 @ B1; B2 @ P4; P1 @ B3; B4 @ P2
2019: B1 @ P4; P3 @ B2; B3 @ P2; P1 @ B4
2020: P2 @ B1; B2 @ P1; P4 @ B3; B4 @ P3
Iowa: @Utah, vs Wash, @CU, vs UCLA
Minn: vs UCLA, @CU, vs Wash, @Utah
Wisc: @Wash, vs Utah, @UCLA, vs CU
Neb: vs CU, @UCLA, vs Utah, @Wash
Since it’s a guaranteed inter-league schedule there’s no need for home-and-home series, and that allows for new match-ups every year over a 12-year timeframe. Breaking down the other pods/match-ups is just a matter of plugging names in for variables.
by The Mexican't on Dec 28, 2011 5:57 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds like the Iowa-ISU game isn't in jeopardy
But damnit for my big $$$ I DEMAND an annual loss to a directional Michigan school!
I like this because fuck the SEC.
I hope the B1G and everybody else colludes to marginalize the ESPN/SEC love affair.
AND, has anyone noticed...
that in spite of ESPN’s on-air protestations the SEC’s run of dominance has, more or less, coincided with their contract with the network?
Let's see any team beat an SEC team in the MNC game before this conspiracy theory has any merit
The SEC has consistently had truly elite teams in the last decade.
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by therealCatnuts on Dec 28, 2011 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
Let's see an SEC team
play above the mason-dixon line.
In November
as Alabama will gladly point to winning in Happy Valley otherwise
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by chitownhawkeye on Dec 29, 2011 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
Yes.
The SEC deserves credit though for it’s solid play in high-profile games. I also think they’ve got a right to rub it in everyone’s face for some of the drubbings they’ve put on top teams. Irritating though.
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by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 29, 2011 3:08 AM CST up reply actions
We had a discussion about this topic on Twitter
Who do you think is Iowa’s competitive equal (football)? Cal was the overwhelming answer. I ask because Delany said,
RT @freepwolverines: Delany said the FB matchups are not necessarily a “Challenge” in the BB sense but competitive equity will likely play a part
seriously?
That's frustrating because...
if the scheduling czars are lining up games based upon the perceived level of the programs it only reinforces those positions. In other words policy makers should favor upward and downward competitive mobility as opposed to predetermining the “good” and “bad” programs/teams.
For shits and giggles...using the Sagarin ratings here would be the matchups
Wisconsin vs. Stanford
Michigan vs. Oregon
Michigan State vs. USC
Nebraska vs. Cal
Penn State vs. Utah
Ohio State vs. Arizona State
Iowa vs. Washington
Illinois vs. UCLA
Northwestern vs. Arizona
Purdue vs. Washington State
Minnesota vs. Oregon State
Indiana vs. Colorado
Using the past decade as a barometer:
Ohio State/USC (the powerhouses)
Michigan/Washington (once great, faltered, now on the way back to prominence)
Illinois/UCLA (the disappointments based in fertile recruiting grounds)
Northwestern/Stanford (the academics)
Wisconsin/Oregon (prominence within the past 20 years)
Iowa/Utah (generally overshadowed, but sneak into the BCS every now and then)
Nebraska/Colorado (the “Eff Texas” Bowl)
MIchigan State/California (The historic schizo teams)
Purdue/Arizona (flashes of great things, but no sustained success)
MInnesota/Oregon State (historic underachievers — the Rodent Bowl)
Indiana/Washington State (the bottom dwellers)
Penn State/Arizona State (usually good teams that are bowl eligible)
I have no problem using matchups like that for this series, at least at the outset.
(Although Iowa-Utah certainly wouldn’t thrill me.)
I think they would be wise to base the initial matchups on relative strength at the time to guarantee some good games. Of course, that also means they probably need to hold off on announcing those 2017 games for a little bit — six years is a long time and teams that are good now could fall away, while teams that are dodgy now could rise up.
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A road game in Utah wouldn't be bad
Park City is only 40 miles from SLC. I wouldn’t be thrilled to see Iowa play in Pullman, Corvalis or Tucson.
The beauty of the above schedule...
….is that it would force BB and Wisconsin to play a really tough OOC opponent, and they’d have almost no choice in the matter. Yes, I know that Wisky played ASU last year, and didn’t they play a bad Oregon St, too at some point?, but on the other hand that’s not the same thing as playing a yearly power like OU or USC or—nowadays—Stanford.
I’d like to see us get Stanford, actually, or UCLA. We OWE the Bruins a win, after NYD 1986.
by The Director on Dec 28, 2011 6:23 PM CST up reply actions
My first thought was that we owe em a couple.
And to do it in the Rose Bowl would be awesome, even if it isn’t the Granddaddy of Them All.
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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Dec 28, 2011 6:36 PM CST up reply actions
We owe Washington one more.
They got us in 1982 and 1991 Rose Bowls. We got them in 1996 Sun Bowl.
But beating UCLA would give more particular satisfaction, as would someday beating USC.
As good as USC got this year, still amazed that Minnesota was as competitive with them in LA as they were this year.
by The Director on Dec 28, 2011 7:10 PM CST up reply actions
Utah would be ok
As I said in the other thread, we’re one step closer to a match-up with CU. A game in Boulder would be fun, but Denver would be incredible. CU fans wouldn’t know what hit them. So many Iowa fans in Denver. Sports Column might explode that night.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
Iowa/CU in mile high, which isn’t what they call it, would be a ton of fun. I’d absolutely try very hard to go to that.
I'd rather see a game in Boulder, actually.
That stadium and setting looks absolutely gorgeous.
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You get to drink in Mile High
Boulder is more scenic, but having been to a few CU/CSU games at Sports Authority Field at Mile High, I can tell you it is a pretty good party. Throw Iowans into that mix and it will be crazy.
Sounds like the push if for NFL/NBA facilities and Denver fits that bill.
Proud to be a Coloiowan.
by MileHi Hawkeye on Dec 29, 2011 8:36 AM CST up reply actions
I'd be at that game
For sure.
The tailgating would be terrible though…
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
Even if we stay at 8 conference games, which looks likely,
I’d still prefer we drop Iowa State and play 2 different BCS teams every year. Or maybe do ISU only 2 years at a time. If we play against only 2 conferences every year, our recruiting may suffer.
I ain't been droppin no eaves, sir
by Cornfedhawkbred on Dec 28, 2011 5:02 PM CST reply actions
This
Iowa’s “brand” isn’t so well-known nationally that it couldn’t be augmented by playing a game against an East Coast (Maryland, UConn, Virginia) or Southern (the Big 12 South and most of the SEC and ACC) team on a home-and-home basis.
I can ride my bike with no handlebars...
This sounds great.
As long as we don’t have to deal with this:

by mikjones24 on Dec 28, 2011 5:07 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
Fuck that bitch.
and all the other bitches in red that night. Garbage.
Ugh I was at that game too :(
They were cursing at elderly Iowa fans on the way out of the stadium. I will forever root against Arizona due to our game there.
I think this would be great for volleyball and softball, too
pac-12 is really solid in both of them
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by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Dec 28, 2011 6:07 PM CST up reply actions
It's be a decent matchup for Iowa in softball
Volleyball? That’d be a shit show.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
Depends.
Have PSU and Nebraska play Stanford and UCLA. We can play someone else, like Arizona, in volleyball.
And PSU is a perennial volleyball power, so it’s not like the B1G would get schooled in that sport (I recall that NU is good, too).
by The Director on Dec 28, 2011 6:25 PM CST up reply actions
NU and PSU are really good
I think PSU won the last 4 titles and NU won the year prior to PSU’s run. So no, the B1G wouldn’t get routed. Stanford and UCLA matching up with them would be fine. Iowa, however, probably wouldn’t fare as well.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
I'm not even sure all the B1G colleges have VB teams.
They probably do, since it’s Title 9 favorable to do so, but I couldn’t tell you a single thing about a B1G VB program aside from NU and PSU, and minimally Iowa’s.
Maybe we could request a VB match with Utah every year.
by The Director on Dec 28, 2011 7:12 PM CST up reply actions
We were better than Indiana, overall
(Barely.) We tied them for suck in the conference though.
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The B1G is really good at vb lately. maybe the top conference.
8 teams made the NCAA tournament this year.
Are we going to get a "Here's The Thing; Oklamoma" write up?
Always enjoyed that serial.
And, yes – fuck that raggedy bitch.
It's so sad how a family can be torn apart by something as simple as a pack of wild dogs.
by FiveSecondRuleChef on Dec 28, 2011 6:15 PM CST via mobile reply actions
The thing is, I think moving MoMA to Oklahoma is a terrible idea.
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by SomeJerkPoster on Dec 28, 2011 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
So like, we hit "Post" instead of "Cancel?"
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by Bucketochicken on Dec 28, 2011 6:56 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Guess we now meed to get Ferentz a
special clock? Should be fun. I want Kiffster.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Like Bucketochicken, I'd like to know what "Cultural exchanges" are.
I propose Mike Leach and Bret Bielema switch schools for a year. I can already see the Queen Anne’s Revenge replica being built on Lake Monona.
/hilarity ensues
I can ride my bike with no handlebars...
Every B1G school gets coeds from Arizona, ASU, and a handful of Oregon cheerleaders.
Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Dec 28, 2011 8:33 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I can also see Iowa-Cal matching up
Two very similar football programs in a lot of ways, and the Bay Area ain’t a bad place to see a game, lots of flights, too.
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I am suddenly
all in favor of this agreement and feel that we need to also go to a 9 game conference schedule.
In that it would fuck over ND.
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by chitownhawkeye on Dec 29, 2011 12:16 PM CST reply actions
maybe I'm reading too much into this
But I LOVE that both Soldier Field & the UC were mentioned as potential sites with no mention of Lucas Oil or whatever the Pacers venue is. I’m still bitter at the B1G for moving the B1G tourney to Indy.
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