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The Short List: Mike Stoops

At most schools, an open coordinator position wouldn't be cause for serious contemplation. Coordinators come and go, in most circumstances. Iowa football isn't most schools, though; the program hasn't hired a new coordinator in thirteen years, and a full-on head coaching search looks to be years away. Defensive Coordinator LET'S TALK ABOUT IT.

We've covered two of the three coaches on the current staff, and Darrell Wilson can wait for next week. Let's get to the favorite of exactly 50% of deranged sports talk callers and message board posters, the most illogical choice ever offered by Adam Rittenberg on anything, the living embodiment of all the internal strife we feel over going all Sin Cara on the Bob Stoops hire twelve years ago. Mike Stoops, come on down!

Scream2_mediumMike Stoops, of course, is the recently-deposed head coach of Arizona. We all know the basics of this part of the story. In 7+ years with the Wildcats, Stoops compiled a 41-49 record, with a 27-38 record in conference play. He never finished better than 8-5, never placed higher in the Pac-10 than a tie for second. Under Stoops' leadership, Arizona went to three bowl games, so there's that. They also beat Iowa by seven in 2010, in what was probably the high point of his time in Tucson. After starting the 2010 season with seven wins in eight games and reaching #13 in the polls, Arizona lost its last five, including a triple overtime game against a pretty horrible Arizona State squad and an Alamo Bowl beating that resembled...well, The Alamo. His 2011 team started 1-5; to be fair, four of the teams who beat Arizona at the beginning of the season are now in the AP top six. Nevertheless, the Arizona administration had finally had enough, and Stoops was fired at the half-mile pole. He's been the prettiest girl at the dance for every unscrupulous Iowa fan ever since.

Prior to his time in the desert, Stoops was a defensive assistant for his brother Bob at Oklahoma, a defensive assistant at Kansas State, and, for a five-year period in the late 80's and early 90's, an assistant for Hayden Fry at Iowa. And, of course, before that, he played defensive back for Fry at Iowa, just as his brother Bob had, just as his brother Mark would. He was a two-time All-Big Ten selection at Iowa, and played on the 1985 team that briefly held the #1 spot in the national polls. FUN FACT: He was one of 80 players in the first season of the Arena League, so at the Arena League alumni meetings, Stoops gets to wear one of those "First 80" patches on his jacket like Piney on Sons of Anarchy.

Of course, the current interest from Iowa fans has less to do with his brief stint in the Arena League and more with the time he spent playing and coaching under Hayden Fry. These things matter to fans, to be sure; those old enough to remember the 80's Iowa teams certainly remember Stoops' contributions and take those contributions as a rationale sufficient to justify his hiring. It's the basic logic of any coaching search, at least on the back of a fan's napkin: A former player with a memorable career on successful squads and a resume distinguished enough to justify the position has to be in consideration. It's why Iowa fans think they should have Bob Stoops coaching this team now.

These things matter not one damn to Kirk Ferentz, though. Not only is Ferentz's current staff completely devoid of coaches who once coached under Hayden Fry, not only is Ferentz's current staff nearly devoid of former Iowa players (Ferentz-era linebacker LeVar Woods is in his second year as an administrative assistant, and offensive graduate assistant David Raih was a walk-on quarterback), but Ferentz hasn't had a former Fry assistant on staff since Carl Jackson retired in 2008; he hasn't had a former Fry-era Iowa player on his staff since Bret Bielema left for Wisconsin in 2002. Ties to Iowa are irrelevant here.

What matters more to Ferentz than Stoops' relationship with the university is Stoops' relationship with HIM. Every person on this staff is connected to Ferentz through some sort of six-degrees-of-Kirk-Ferentz circumstance, most stopping within a move or two. This doesn't necessarily disqualify Stoops, who played and coached under Fry largely during the same period as Ferentz; KF has acknowledged Stoops as a professional acquaintance. But Mike Stoops comes from the Bill Snyder-Bob Stoops branch of the family tree, a branch that has yet to ever intersect with Ferentz (unless you're counting Chuck Long's one-year holdover period with Ferentz after Fry's retirement, after which he left to join Stoops in Norman). And if Ferentz is going to buck that trend, I doubt it's for a hotheaded ex-head coach known for aggressive risk-taking on defense. Ferentz won't adopt to that philosophy, and he can't turn Stoops into a Stepford Defensive Coordinator, mindlessly running two-deep coverages ad infinitum. Mike Stoops doesn't fit the mold of the most tightly-molded program in the country, and so Mike Stoops almost certainly won't be the defensive coordinator.

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And with that

The Mike Stoops parade is officially cancelled due to rain.

"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer

by Flakbait on Dec 16, 2011 8:27 AM CST reply actions   2 recs

Stoops to Nebraska

Mike Stoops will accept the DC job at Nebraska. There, one more slap to the Hawkeye face. Does it make you guys feel cheap and inefficient? I hope so…..

by rickm02 on Dec 16, 2011 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Why would it make any feel cheap or inefficient?

If you took the time to read the article above, the rational portion of the fanbase is well aware that Mike Stoops was never a legitimate candidate in Iowa City.

by The Mexican't on Dec 16, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

But, but, but

FIVE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 16, 2011 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Inefficient?

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 16, 2011 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Piney got shot!

Watching the Cubs piss it away for 31 years.

by CarolinaHawk on Dec 16, 2011 8:39 AM CST reply actions  

While I hope that KF ends up tabbing Bradley for the job

I think this is overly dismissive of Stoops’ legitimacy as a candidate.

Pointing to a potential coordinator’s record as a head coach (especially his only gig at that level) only tells me about his ability to run a program, not a defense. Ferentz didn’t exactly light the world afire as the head man at Maine. It’s also easy to gloss over the inherent challenges that Stoops faced at Arizona; that was not a program in a good place when he arrived.

This also completely disregards any talent the man has as a recruiter. That same “combustible” personality? That energy can often be a boon on the recruiting trail and many kids (including Stoops’ players at Arizona) enjoy playing for a fiery personality (so long as he isn’t going Leavitt on them).

The best arguments for his not being hired (or at least best evidence) are those Patrick makes in respect to his relationship with Feretnz. It’s who you know, indeed.

From a practical standpoint, I would also hesitate with a Stoops (or even Bradley, perhaps) from a stability standpoint. He will almost certainly try to test the head coaching waters again if the opportunity arises and I don’t think Ferentz relishes the thought of having to do this sort of search again in a few years.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Dec 16, 2011 8:45 AM CST reply actions  

Kyle, Stoops has less of a shot at this gig than you do

I really believe that. And upon further reflection, I think Bradley is right behind Stoops in the “on a cold day in hell” list that Ferentz is keeping. If you examine closely the hires of Ferentz, dating back to Maine, he does not go this route. Ever. I think it is Parker or Aiken. And Aiken is a long shot.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 16, 2011 8:49 AM CST up reply actions  

To elaborate, Ferentz hires guys he thinks will be "all-in" as

assistants. Guys who are not looking for, on any level, a job as a springboard. As a result, he has practically no coaching tree which for a guy who has been a head coach as long as he has been one, and as successfully as he has done it, is remarkable (in the negative, IMO).

This is the thing that mostly baffles me about Ferentz. A cynical theory would be he cannot or does not want anyone to challenge him on his staff. I don’t understand why he’s been unable to develop head coaches from his staff.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 16, 2011 8:53 AM CST up reply actions  

This.

I didn’t mean the rundown of his time at UA as a disqualifier; it’s not like you’re going to get a successful head coach to come in and take a coordinator position. It’s a brief and somewhat dismissive summary because (1) just about everyone here knows Mike Stoops’ history courtesy of the 2009-10 series, and (2) I don’t think that history matters in the slightest. My basic point is the one you cite as the best evidence: He’s not a “Ferentz guy”. He is, quite literally, a “Stoops guy”, and nobody has ever been both. We, as fans, look at Mike and say Iowa connections + OU success + UA whatever that was = candidate. The first part of that equation doesn’t even register with the decision-maker, though.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Dec 16, 2011 9:03 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree with all of this.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Dec 16, 2011 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

If it is Parker

and they know that it’s Parker, why haven’t they announced it. You would think if its an obvious choice for them and they will be promoting from within it would be good for the stability of the program and recruits mindset to announce it. the longer this takes the more I think that it could be someone outside the program.

DRUNJIFORNICATION

by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Dec 16, 2011 8:53 AM CST up reply actions  

To legitimize him to the fans, to the players and the other coaches

when you have a hiring “process” the person hired is legitimized perceptually.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 16, 2011 8:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Because the job isn't open yet.

They don’t want to step on Norm’s…retirement speech.

Yes, I originally had “they don’t want to step on Norm’s toes” and deleted it.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Dec 16, 2011 9:08 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Norm's Toes

Norm wouldn’t have minded.

by rickm02 on Dec 16, 2011 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Well they are having a press conference today at 2

with Norm and Ferentz. Who knows if they’ll say anything about Norm’s successor though. The question is going to be asked though if they don’t address it themselves.

by Captain n Diet Coker on Dec 16, 2011 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

KF is quite skilled at deflecting probing questions, it shouldn't be an issue.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 16, 2011 9:30 AM CST up reply actions  

They're going to execute this job search.

/backhand karate chop
/fiddle with water bottle cap

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Dec 16, 2011 9:43 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm not sure I'd describe KF's tactics at deflection as "skilled"

“overt” and “blatant” come to mind, but not “skilled”. To me, a skilled deflection is one where you give an answer that doesn’t actually answer the question asked, all the while appearing to answer the question and, mostly importantly, leaving the questioner believing he/she got an answer.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 16, 2011 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

SMA, read the post.

I didn’t say he has a shot. I don’t think Ferentz would ever hire him, even if Barta held a gun to his head (and I believe he may own one). I just said the profile is one-sided and overly-dismissive. Slow. Down.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Dec 16, 2011 8:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Okay...

but I think criticism or dismissing Stoops is legitimate. He’s not accomplished much outside of sharing his brother’s last name.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 16, 2011 8:56 AM CST up reply actions  

What happened to his defense this year

should not ever happen to any coach who sees himself as a defensive specialist, ever. Look at the numbers, and look at the results. It’s beyond train wreck, dumpster fire, or nuclear fallout. It seems almost on purpose it is so bad. And for me, it would be a major red flag for his future prospects to serve as anything other than a positional coach.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 16, 2011 8:58 AM CST up reply actions  

It was beyond a train wreck. It was an embarrassment.

And it was one season in 7. What was Iowa’s record in KF’s seventh season?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Dec 16, 2011 9:02 AM CST up reply actions  

And it was against Oklahoma State, USC, Oregon, and Stanford.

Just sayin’.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Dec 16, 2011 9:05 AM CST up reply actions  

They were ranked 111th in total defense

against non-winning programs. They were not discriminating.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 16, 2011 9:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, but the non-winning programs they played were almost all after Stoops got canned.

He beat a I-AA, lost to #3, #4, #5, and #6 in the final AP poll, and then Oregon State.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Dec 16, 2011 9:09 AM CST up reply actions  

True, but Iowa State beat Oklahoma State.

Stanford might be the most overrated Top 10 team in the country. Oregon is legit blowout.

Oregon State, however, was 0-4 and had lost to Sacramento State before it found it’s inner Boise State against Stoopsy’s D.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 16, 2011 9:12 AM CST up reply actions  

I give Stoops credit for this though

he thoroughly outcoached Ferentz in the desert. He sat on those blitzes and it paid off. That AZ team would lose 8-10 to that Iowa team if they had such a season.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 16, 2011 9:15 AM CST up reply actions  

The Sac State loss in retrospect not a big deal

Sac State kind of imploded this season. Everyone thought this might be a breakthrough year in the Big Sky, but noooo… and they had to go to OT to beat a bad Oregon State squad.

That said, anytime a I-AA beats a I-A it something to contemplate… just not for very long.

Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!

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by The Bird Cult on Dec 16, 2011 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't really buy this argument

HCs have vastly different responsibilities than coordinators. Some guys are great at one and terrible at the other. For instance, Belichick is revered as a HC but his supposed strength (defense) has been a tire fire for five years now in New England. Brian Billick was hired as an offensive-minded HC for the Ravens and had the worst SB-winning offense in modern history.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 16, 2011 9:15 AM CST up reply actions  

I disagree about New England's defense

they win games. It’s not easy being a defense on a Tom Brady team. (Or a Peyton Manning team for that matter.) They might not be capable of doing what a Pittsburgh defense or Baltimore defense can do because of they way those team manage the offensive side of the ball.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 16, 2011 9:17 AM CST up reply actions  

If you're going to go to the numbers to defame Mike Stoops

then let the numbers for New England’s defense have some merit as well. They’re bad.

Yes, it’s hard to be on the opposite side of a prolific offense, but for five years in a row? Under the eras of Manning, Brees, and Rodgers, their teams still had good-to-great defenses several times.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 16, 2011 9:27 AM CST up reply actions  

I think the New England defensive numbers are better than you have implied

especially given the makeup of that team as a whole. Yes, they give up a lot of yardage and are ranked last in that category, but they are 14th in points allowed. OF teams that rely almost entirely on the pass, they are ranked #1. The Top Ten defenses are all run heavy, by contemporary NFL standards, offenses. Ironically, the NE defense is better in scoring defense than Denver—-the defense that is getting the most credit these days.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 16, 2011 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

I could pull some voodoo on Zona's defensive numbers as well

1) League with VERY prolific offenses
2) League with pass-heavy offenses
3) They got worse after Stoops got canned

All of this is beside the original point I was trying to make in that you can’t always judge a person’s skill as a coordinator on one side of the ball because their team was bad on that side when they were a HC.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 16, 2011 9:40 AM CST up reply actions  

I think in general that is a fair statement

but I am pretty sure that also got him canned. That he was perceived as a defensive guy who could not dent the top offenses in his conference. Now that they have Rich Rod, they are saying, more or less, with this hire, “we may not do any better defensively, but now maybe we can do more offensively to counteract those inabilities.”

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 16, 2011 9:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Fair enough.

In the end, winning is what matters. How you get there is usually an overblown point.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 16, 2011 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I have yet to see someone who simply has a name

take a middling program to three consecutive bowls from a BCS conference. He isn’t a coaching genius but considering he walked into a league where he was pretty much assured of not finishing above 3rd he did a better job than you’re giving him credit for. It’s not like he was hauling in top-5 recruiting classes and just putting the talent out on the field and letting them go. That’s Lane Kiffin’s job.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Dec 16, 2011 9:01 AM CST up reply actions  

He was also in a league where finishing 4th or 5th requires almost no effort

and for that accomplishment, assuming you won your two non-cons against sacrificial lambs, meant you go bowling. The Pac 10, as it was known, was the most top heavy conference in America. So you lost majestically twice a year, and then you were rewarded with cupcake city.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 16, 2011 9:08 AM CST up reply actions  

You're too smart to write something like that.

Show me the coach that gets results of any kind at this level with “no effort”. You’re dealing in generalities and vagaries to “prove” your point.

Look, Mike Stoops is not a guy I would want as my head football coach (at this point at least) and I’m not really sure I would love him as Iowa’s DC. But you’re essentially calling the guy a well-connected clown with absolutely no coaching ability because he took over a bad program and failed to rise to the top of a conference that had one power program winning with every illegal advantage possible and another winning with an ungodly infusion of Nike money.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Dec 16, 2011 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

You're second paragraph is a good summary of my feelings

and not just mine, I might add. Oh, with one exception, I never said “no coaching ability” but I certainly implied poor coaching ability.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 16, 2011 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

that's a pretty dismissive argument

The same could be said of Iowa football. “No shame in finishing behind the Big 4 of PSU, OSU, Mich, Neb. And therefore just any mediocre Iowa coach can make 5th in the conference”. That’s dismissive of all the other teams below that 5th-place team that are also working hard to get there.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 16, 2011 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

The Big Ten, as a whole, is vastly superior to the former Pac-10

Northwestern would be a perennial Top 5 team, no doubt.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 16, 2011 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Sure, but the argument stands.

Just move the marker from “4th or 5th” to “6th or 7th” to capture Iowa and MSU and you’re saying that it would not be an accomplishment for Purdue or Indiana to finish 6th or 7th several years in a row. It would be. Nobody shows up and is granted anything resembling a respectable finish in BCS-level football. You have to work your ass off for it.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 16, 2011 9:23 AM CST up reply actions  

I think, then, your ass has to be far more fit in all conferences outside of the Pac 10

and I am not sure Utah and Colorado has strengthened them, but I do think Nebraska strengthened the B1G.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 16, 2011 9:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed, SMA

Colorado’s move looked good on paper for the Pac-10, but that program is WAY down right now. They have a long way to go before they’re even close to competitive. They should be better given their history, but there are a ton of distractions in and around Boulder. They’re way down the list of importance, especially with all the pro teams in Denver. Their facilities are awful (they were probably the worst in the Big XII, and I can’t imagine they’re much better in the Pac-10). There’s talent right in their backyard but they can’t seem to hold onto it (they have two highly-rated offensive linemen – one around the Fort Collins area named Joey O’Connor, the other in Highlands Ranch named Alex Kozan that Iowa is recruiting heaviy), and their California pipeline isn’t what it used to be. It’s just a mess up there right now. Lots of work needs to be done there before that can be seen as a move that strengthened the league.

I think the Big 10 is better with Nebraska.

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Dec 16, 2011 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

I just can't figure out why they don't play defense in the Pac 10/12

I watch the games out here and shake my head… maybe its the food out here, not so much grease and fat as you see in the cuisine as in the Midwest and South, but no one wants to play defense…

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by The Bird Cult on Dec 16, 2011 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

FWIW

I think the most relevant of Patrick’s points with respect to Mike is the likelihood that IF he came to Kirk’s staff as DC he’d jump at a different opportunity in a year. Mike Stoops does not = Todd Graham, there’s just no way whoever is the next DC isn’t implicitly likely to stay 5+ years.

by txhawkeye on Dec 16, 2011 9:11 AM CST reply actions  

Does having the handle StoopsMyAss disqualify any of the substance of your opinion on a Stoops?

Haha. On a serious note, you make some good points about his defense they were horrible. It would be interesting to see how much control of style KF would allow Stoops to have, If I remember correctly he’s (understatement) slightly more aggressive than ole Norm is. Plus if someone named Norm retires after 13 years I believe you’re required to hire someone who has worked either in Norman or Parkersburg.

by DananHughesUrDaddy on Dec 16, 2011 9:20 AM CST reply actions  

I am going to be very disappointed

the day I meet SMA and he does not look anything like the slack-jawed Bob Stoops of his profile picture.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 16, 2011 9:25 AM CST up reply actions  

I went to Iowa when Mike was there

and shared beers with him, more or less. I knew Bobby better, but was not close to either, and I assumed both would amount to shit after college. They were not impressive in the least as college students. Trust me. My handle BTW is thanks to a guy I roomed with at Iowa, who is now the head trainer at a major university and was a trainer at Iowa. When Hayden retired I asked if Stoops would be Iowa’s next head coach and he replied, "….

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 16, 2011 9:25 AM CST up reply actions  

I know...

but I we all wonder where these handles come from.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 16, 2011 9:28 AM CST up reply actions  

No kidding.

“Patrick Vint”?!?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Dec 16, 2011 9:29 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

It sounds so made up.

Nobody named “Patrick” ever enjoyed booze so much as to be from a vintner family.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 16, 2011 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Vint = Vent

equaling “an outlet for air, smoke, fumes, or the like.”

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 16, 2011 9:34 AM CST up reply actions  

He does vent well

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 16, 2011 9:42 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

grrrr

getting angry

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Dec 16, 2011 9:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Uhhh, I live in Texas and graduated from Iowa?

Oh, wait, mine is stupidly simple because I’m not creative.

by txhawkeye on Dec 16, 2011 9:30 AM CST up reply actions  

I hate mine

But “Adam Jacobi” was already take, so…

You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Dec 16, 2011 9:33 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

After enough online accounts

I figured out that no matter what I choose, I will not like it within 6 weeks.

"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer

by Flakbait on Dec 16, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Using Shithead would seem awfully rude

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by The Bird Cult on Dec 16, 2011 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm using my maiden name

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 16, 2011 11:47 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm surprised there wasn't more backlash on this

I think everyone got distracted by HEC’s Bloom smackdown.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 16, 2011 2:44 PM CST reply actions  

Minor correction....

BB went to KState – and served under William the Elder – before he packed up his gear and headed to Madison. Dont we all recall the BigXII championship game spwhen KState upset OU ( I believe ) and got to listen to Musburger fawn over BB as a “rising star” in the coaching ranks….
His defense ( with coach Elliott ) were pretty good those few years.

by Ordinary Joe on Dec 16, 2011 6:11 PM CST reply actions  

I am guessing

the middle stoops
has a twitter account
and we know where that will get him in these parts

Her noblesse exceeded her oblige

by OhioHawk on Dec 17, 2011 3:20 PM CST reply actions  

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