INPIYLTI: Big Ten Bowl Ticket Sales And Barta The Salesman
Ticket sales for Iowa's second trip to the desert in as many seasons is outselling last year but it's not the hottest ticket among Big Ten bowl teams. Iowa has sold 6,200 of their allotted 11,000. Wisconsin is the only team thus far already selling out their allotment. Michigan is close selling 15,000 of 17,500 tickets. Nebraska has sold 75% of their tickets, Illinois and Penn State are struggling to get sell theirs.
The Sooners have reported about 6,000 tickets sold from their allotment. Both teams received 11,000. Last year OU sold about the same number for the Fiesta Bowl but had a larger allotment of 17,500.
These numbers don't always represent a true fan count. I bought two tickets to the Insight.com Bowl and did so through the official Fiesta/Insight website. Both Iowa and the official site for the Insight charge a "service charge" but it's less if you purchase from the official Insight website. In retrospect I should have purchased through Iowa but I'm cheap and two bucks is two bucks. I've also read that purchases from Iowa directly don't include a service charge but once I proceeded with the check-out there was a $20 charge included. I didn't go forward and am unsure if it was waived. Perhaps I am an idiot and in that case ignore this paragraph.
Iowa fought for their selection by the Insight.com Bowl committee. Marc Morehouse writes that Gary Barta "wanted the keep the Insight's attention." Barta sent a promotional flier to Insight reps that inlcuded:
53,888, the record attendance Iowa and Missouri attracted to 2010′s Insight Bowl at Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe
and
Despite having to go head-to-head against the National Football League on television, the ESPN broadcast of the 2010 Insight Bowl featuring the Iowa Hawkeyes recorded a 2.24 rating, a whopping 460 percent increase over the 2009 broadcast available on the NFL Network. The 2010 rating was just shy of the event's average rating of 2.4 over 18 events
The flier, if you care to read it, is included in Morehouse's post.
Mike Hlas has a follow-up to Morehouse's post that says that despite Barta's efforts, the real reason Iowa is in Tempe is Jerry Sandusky. Mike is right and he breaks down Barta's numbers. Barta and Ferentz didn't discuss the Penn State matter at the press conference following the announcement of bowl pairings. It was the typical "we're happy to..." from Iowa's AD. Hlas concludes with the truth that is,
The reason was the sludge that Penn State is dragging around because of Sandusky's alleged sexual abuse of children. Had that not seen the light of day before Dec. 4 when the bowl-pairings were set, Iowa would be preparing to play Texas A&M in the Meineke.
Barta lobbied for a match-up with Baylor or Texas and has to be happy that the opponent is Oklahoma. Even with the disappointing season in Norman the Sooners are still an exciting adversary. And there's that Stoops-Iowa storyline.
About Stoops, Guerin Emig, of Tulsa World writes that he may be getting soft. In fact, Emig wrote,
There are fans/boosters/ticket-buyers who claim money and time have turned Stoops soft. That he doesn't stew over less-than-desirable results, and doesn't work as maniacally to correct them
Emig's piece is a "stab at OU's woes." Emig believes that OU isn't set to become the Duke football of the Big 12 but "recovering from the 2011 season will be a process." Holy shit Emig, you're 9-3 and ranked #19 in the country.
Travis Haney, at NewsOK, writes that the sky isn't quite falling yet at Oklahoma. Haney says,
I'll tell ya what's going on at OU: It set out to win a national title, and now it's playing in the Insight Bowl. Regardless of the circumstances, there's fallout from that
Haney attempts to calm the fan base by ensuring that Stoops will make changes and that transfers happen every year. "It's normal" writes Haney and he's right.
Iowa's game with Oklahoma has been picked as one of the best non-BCS bowl games to watch by Yahoo writer Dave Miller. He gives a brief breakdown of the game and says that despite OU's underwhelming defense Iowa still can't be one dimensional on offense.
Other links of interest:
- Craig James for Senative
- Round-up of football post season honors
- NFL draft scouting report on Mike Daniels
- Pleasant Valley holds a dodgeball tournament to raise money for Brett Greenwood
- Anthony Morgan knew he wanted to be a Hawkeye his junior year
- Couples donation will help fund Iowa football scholarships
- Great moments in Hawkeye bowl history
- Rough season to be an OU running back
- LSU Championship bounce
- Karl Klug continues his impressive rookie season
- The officiating crew for the Insight are Pac-12
- Trouble in Soonertown? (message board rumors are fun)
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Penn State is selling tickets for $75 through its official site, with section numbers that don't exist at the Cotton Bowl.
The TicketCity Bowl is selling a four-pack of end zone seats with four hot dogs and four soft drinks for $99.
Yes, I’m also shocked that Penn State could handle something poorly.
That's not a bad deal
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by The Bird Cult on Dec 15, 2011 10:10 AM CST up reply actions
That's not remotely surprising.
Buying bowl tickets through the university is frequently a lousy deal. The price gets jacked up with service charges and the seats are often in bad locations; I know tons of Iowa fans have been getting tickets through alternative sellers for years since the prices and seat locations are better.
Yet another reason why the bowls are a racket.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
My bowl tickets are really cheap! :-p
Drive to Davis, CA (about 20 minutes) – maybe $5 in gas round trip.
Food at The Graduate Sports Bar – $15
Beer – $20
With my daughter having eye surgery in January to correct her exotropia (wandering eye) and both kids clamoring for me to come see them in CT, I can’t justify in good conscience blowing a grand to fly to PHX (plus the vacation time) for a bowl game… I only see my kids 2x a year at most…
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by The Bird Cult on Dec 15, 2011 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
Beer – $20
Lightweight. Are you only planning on being there for the pregame or something?
Good luck to your fam!
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Dec 15, 2011 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
If I drink more than two 16 oz glasses I will be hungover for a week
One of the downsides of being a good shape = get drunk fast…
Thanks man. She should be OK, its in a delicate area – they go under the eyelid and either tighten or loosen the muscles that make your eye move – about an hour start to finish…
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by The Bird Cult on Dec 15, 2011 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
Yup - after getting ridiculously bad seats for the first Outback bowl . . .
I have subsequently gone through the bowl directly or a third-party like StubHub.
The flyover at that Outback bowl occurred about 15 feet over my head, the seats were so bad.
Never again!
You sitting next to me?
It was kinda awesome to see those things fly by being that close to them though.
by Off Constantly on Dec 15, 2011 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
I posted a link to that Ticket City offer on Twitter
back when I thought Iowa might go there. I woulda bought four just for the extra hot dogs.
seriously?
Riley Reiff highest projected Big Ten player in NFL draft projections
he’s the first of three-four BT players projected for the first round
seriously?
Matt Kalil going back to USC for a senior season is probably a multi-million dollar boost for Reiff.
If Kalil goes to the NFL, maybe Reiff can talk himself into playing one more year in Iowa City. Now that he’s projected by some as the best OT in the draft, there’s absolutely no reason to return to Iowa. At this point, I think the only help we can hope for next year from Reiff is along the lines that Suh helped Nebraska after being drafted – a big donation for the new facilities.
by The Mexican't on Dec 15, 2011 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
that should be four-three
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 15, 2011 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
I fully expect ESPN to only cover 2 of those prospects.
by The Mexican't on Dec 15, 2011 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed. ESPN doesn't believe in (media) blitzing.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 15, 2011 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
update
RT @mortreport: USC T Matt Kalil has decided to turn pro, per sources. Projected as top-5 pick; premier LT prospect. No word on Barkley.
seriously?
Yes
now he’ll only be making 5s of millions of dollars next year instead of 10s
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic
but making half as much as you would have made is a bummer. figures be damned.
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by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 16, 2011 7:42 AM CST up reply actions
Even though my computers say Iowa is the B1G's second biggest underdog in the bowls
with the biggest being jNW, I really do think Iowa can win this with a month of Norm Parkertastic preparation on defense if Iowa just avoids turning the ball over. Oklahoma is 3-3 on the year when the opponent doesn’t throw an INT, and one of those wins was over a Kansas State team who didn’t throw at all until they were trying desperately to stay in the game and another was over Kansas who is just putrid bad awful.
For all the attention the play of Landry Jones will get, Vandenberg is the far more important QB in this game.
GO IOWA AWESOME
I agree
If Vandy plays at though Arizona is a home stadium, this game could shape up to be a good one.
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by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 16, 2011 7:44 AM CST up reply actions
Any TicketCity Bowl ticket stat will be flawed.
Penn State’s allotment sells for $75 each, but with both teams’ fans on the same sideline, the seats are on Houston’s sideline.
Or, one could pay $25 by buying them from the TicketCity.com bowl website, and sit on the PSU sideline.
Penn State may not take 15k people there (who wants to go to Dallas for a 3rd tier bowl?) but it will be a heck of a lot more than PSU’s official bowl sales will sell.
won't PSU have to eat the unsold # of their allotment?
and and what price do they pay back the Big Ten? $75?
seriously?
I believe that allotment
in the context of bowl games meanss “tickets the University is forced to buy”. A lot of them end up getting dumped on StubHub and whatnot. (source: that article somebody posted a link to yesterday)
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
The bowl would be so much more desirable if the Ticket City folks could get this over to Jerry World. $$$ for the privilege, sure, but indoors, and not the shithole that is the Cotton Bowl
Really?
I just figured you wouldn’t want to have to try and fill that place with the teams that usually make it into the game.
Executive Producer - WRNL TV
The problem likely is fee for use
All the TX HS championship games (this weekend, yes, the weekend before Christmas – 9 state champions in TX) are held there. Plus, a lot of other random regular season HS games. It’d be interesting to see what they’d charge. I have to think they’d be fine with 20-30,000 for this game at Jerry. It would encourage more people to go – the stadium is still a draw. It’s just fucking big.
People would flock to Arlington.
It’s almost universally understood that the Cotton Bowl is a dump, while JerryWorld alone would be enough to convince people to go. If Iowa were playing in Cowboy Stadium, I wouldn’t care who the opponent was, just get me to the stadium.
by The Mexican't on Dec 15, 2011 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah.
The novelty factor with JerryWorld is so high that I think you’d get a lot of people to go who otherwise might not go to a 4th or 5th tier bowl.
Hell, I know I’d be pretty interested in going if it was an excuse to see JerryWorld.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Confession:
it’s pretty fucking cool. There are 2 factors, as you may have heard, that go into making this a tough place to watch a game:
1) you end up watching the video board rather than the field. No home field advantage in JerryWorld;
2) the open space is quite sizable. 90,000 without much issue.
On the other hand, for Cowboy games there are “cage dancers” up by the roofs in the end zones. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
That is just amazingly tacky
I’m not a prude or a freaked out moralist, but its out and out tacky…
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by The Bird Cult on Dec 15, 2011 1:55 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, it's Texas
We’re big on preachin’ and strippers, in any order you desire.
If church had strippers
I might have kept going.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
by Flakbait on Dec 15, 2011 3:54 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Well, people are metaphorically stripping their souls in church
But its not quite the same thing
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by The Bird Cult on Dec 15, 2011 4:59 PM CST up reply actions
I want nothing more than to see a game at JerryWorld from one of the field level suites.
Every time I see a game played there I just lose my mind at the amazing seats that are the field level suites. Assholes.
by The Mexican't on Dec 15, 2011 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
Oh my goodness
that’s just all kinds of disgusting ( I went right to oral hygiene)
I was only scratching the outside of my nose...seriously!
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Dec 15, 2011 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
You have got to be fucking kidding me.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
His whole legal team is a joke
It really is fitting, in a karmic sort of way.
YEAH BUDDAY!
by With Ferentz Like These... on Dec 15, 2011 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
I'm waiting for the BHGP attorneys to chime in on this...
I’m guessing to this point they’re basically doing what Sandusky wants, but eventually something he’ll want them to do just won’t pass the laugh test, and someone is going to quit…
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
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by The Bird Cult on Dec 15, 2011 1:53 PM CST up reply actions
Also
Guerin Emig? I’m sure he’s a fine fellow, but he needs to come up with a much more sportswriter-y name.
Guerin Emig = I urge me gin
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Dec 15, 2011 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
LOL @ Sam Hurd, he was selling a lot of fucking drugs
by clay-born to party on Dec 15, 2011 11:42 AM CST reply actions
5 to 10 kilos?
That was just for his New Year’s Eve party. Hookers need blow. Ask Craig James.
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Dec 15, 2011 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
EACH WEEK.
Plus 1,000 pounds of pot. And he was willing (allegedly) to drop $700K ($25K per kilo & $450 per pound) every week to do it.
How does a special teams player front anyone $700K?
by The Mexican't on Dec 15, 2011 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
Holy shit.
I only read the headline from the RSS feed, not the story. Holy shit.
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Dec 15, 2011 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
They'd already been selling for awhile
plus
Hurd’s three-year contract with the Bears had a maximum value of $5.15 million ($4.15 million base total), and Hurd received a $1.35 million signing bonus. His base pay this season was $685,000.
So I can see him having that much cash around. And I won’t be surprised if they nail another NFL’r or two in this.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
And here's a link
for those who don’t know what we’re talking about
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-report-bears-receiver-hurd-arrested-on-drug-charges-20111215,0,461077.story
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
THE WORLD IS YOURS, SAM HURD
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Dec 15, 2011 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
And now it's being reported that Hurd was dealing to 10+ NFL players.
670 The Score also learned:they have a list of NFL players who got their drugs from Sam Hurd, and it’s in the double digits.
- @MattSpiegel670
by The Mexican't on Dec 15, 2011 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
Doesn't DJK live in Chicago?
I’m just sayin’
/Chazz’d
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
This is mind boggling
for me, of the feeble mind. 2 tons of pot a month. Yowza
I would guess
it would be hard to take care of this and play professional sports. Maybe that’s why he is now in jail.
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by The Bacon Explosion on Dec 15, 2011 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe not as hard as it sounds
He may or may not be a user… but I’m guessing he has to have a little network of minions doing the actual distribution for him.
But how the hell could you keep something like this secret for any length of time?
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by The Bird Cult on Dec 15, 2011 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
I have more than one acquaintance with extensive dealing operations
I have never touched a drug in my life (and they also know this, so it’s not like I know because they’re my connection), yet I still know about this side of their lives and the major weight they’re moving. None of them have so much as a possession collar. I don’t think it’s as hard to get away with it as we’re told to believe.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Dec 15, 2011 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
The people I knew that got caught
looked like the kind of people who would deal drugs. They were also kinda dumb.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Well, and the fact they claim they're only making a small dent in traffic
Says to me there are a lot of dealers in the middle and upper middle classes out there that may sell but not use… sure would explain the number of 50 something guys casually dressed I see out in expensive cars out during the day and apparently not employed at a desk job…
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by The Bird Cult on Dec 15, 2011 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
2 tons?
Pfft, Nate Newton thinks that’s strictly small time, playa.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Maybe the hookers didn't blow and that's why he allegedly killed them.
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by BStylin Hawkye on Dec 15, 2011 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
Holy shit I found a Forde column that I loved!
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Dec 15, 2011 4:08 PM CST reply actions
Yeah, nice column. Thanks for the link.
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by The Bird Cult on Dec 15, 2011 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, that guy is a piece of shit.
And I left that ambiguous on purpose.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Dec 15, 2011 6:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well said.
Tood Graham irritates only slightly more than Forde. It’s alarmingly close.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 16, 2011 7:47 AM CST up reply actions
Hlas writes this about OU's Fiesta trip last season
Without help from the Big 12, Oklahoma would have lost almost $1.9 million on the trip. Of course, Big 12 schools help subsidize other Big 12 schools who can’t sell all their bowl tickets, so OU had its share of helping to eat other schools’ unsold tickets.
seriously?
Prepare for shenanigans
Despite cleaning house during the offseason, the Pac 12 refs are still the worst among BCS conferences.
Bethany: Were they sent to Hell?
Metatron: Worse. Wisconsin. For the entire span of human history.
by kurthy on Dec 15, 2011 6:21 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Clayborn & Klug both in the top 5 for sacks by rookies.
Woot!
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
Cue buzzkill comment about why we weren't better last year.
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Dec 15, 2011 7:25 PM CST up reply actions
Clayborn is also about 20 pounds lighter than he was last year.
by The Mexican't on Dec 15, 2011 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
In our disappointment about last year, we can forget how good last year's defense was.
AC and KK tearin’ up the pros —> oh yeah, that’s why our defense struggled this year.
by EastLosRandy on Dec 15, 2011 11:20 PM CST up reply actions
Way to flip that.
DEBATE TEAM STYLEEEEEE!
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by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 16, 2011 7:48 AM CST up reply actions
They are also #1 and #2 if you consider just Rookie D-Lineman.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 16, 2011 7:55 AM CST up reply actions
Let's see here
the 2010 Insight Bowl featuring the Iowa Hawkeyes recorded a 2.24 rating, a whopping 460 percent increase over the 2009 broadcast available on the NFL Network
Now who was in the 2009 version of this game? Ah yes. Lovely job of Barta trolling the inconsolable one hard.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass

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