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INPIYLTI: Ferentz to the Chiefs? Iowa After JUCO QB?


The Kansas City Chiefs parted ways with head coach Todd Haley and it wasn't long before Kirk Ferentz's name became attached to the coaching vacancy. "Ferentz to Kansas City" started out as a joke on Twitter when pal TheKeckster posted this:

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It was retweeted by Hawkeye Insider's Rob Howe and after receiving grief he offered Twitter followers an apology. Howe Tweeted, "Sorry. I guess I unknowingly F'd up. It was not intentional," It turns out that the joke was just ahead of the curve. Soon after, the Twitter account of Peter King, Jay Glazer and others began reporting that Ferentz is one of the leading candidates.

Adam Teicher, of the Sporting News, lists Ferentz along with Jeff Fisher and Josh McDaniels as leading candidates.

Patrick Allen, of Arrowhead Addict, writes that GM Scott Pioli is telling people that Ferentz is the leader.

Blair Kerkhoff, of the Kansas City Star, writes that one candidate stands out, Kirk Ferentz.

John Clayton, of ESPN.com, writes that Pioli will "likely will hire someone he knows." That someone may be Ferentz.

So, the talk is real and I expect Ferentz to address this soon. It's peak time for recruiting and Iowa will host several recruits this weekend. Surely Iowa's potential targets will like to know if Ferentz is going to be their coach. One verbal commit, Laron Taylor, has already expressed this via his Twitter account:

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Star-divide


In other coaching search news, Ohio State hired their defensive coordinator, or co-coordinator. The Buckeyes hired Everett Withers, former interim head coach at North Carolina. Why does this matter? Well, that's another place Mike Stoops was rumored to be a top candidate. Stoops' name has been linked all over but he's yet to ink a deal. It's still unlikely that he ends up at Iowa but the door is still open, at least it's cracked a little.

On the recruiting trail, the top prospect in Illinois switched his verbal commitment from Penn State to Ohio State. Tommy Schutt was rumored to be interested in Iowa but a weekend visit to Ohio State won him over. Schutt commited to Penn State prior to the Sandusky scandal and opened up his recruitment shortly after the news broke out of Happy Valley.


Rob Howe tweeted last night that Iowa had an offer out to a JUCO quarterback. Cody Sokol is a 6'2", 205 pound QB that will graduate from Scottsdale Community College this month. He plans to visit Iowa City on Saturday.

Sokol had impressive numbers this season passing for 3807 yards and 43 touchdowns. He could be the coaching staffs attempt to fill A.J. Derby's former spot at quarterback. Iowa will have three scholarship QBs next season, two of which will be seniors. After Vandenberg and Weinke it's just Rudock so the coaching staff may want to add two QB's in this class. If that's the case then getting Sokol, a player that has three years to play two, and a high school recruit staggers the quarterbacks.

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It makes sense

in a completely word I can’t think of way. For years KF has been rather wishy washy when asked about other coaching jobs and if he’ll be around next year. “I’ve only had three jobs in 20 years” and stuff like that. Last time he was asked, he was uncharacteristically blunt. He flat out said he would be the coach at Iowa next year and for as long as they would have him.

So of course he’d leave.

I don’t think he will though. Pioli is a friend of KF’s and has surely called and turned the screws a bit. Who knows what he has said to the press, but that could all be a smokescreen that KF said is OK with him.

Kirk has a stable job and makes a lot of $$$. The NFL seems to have zero patience left for a coach who doesn’t win. KC’s next coach probably has two years to make the playoffs or he’s gone. Kirk’s comments regarding the NFL have also been less than enthusiastic as time went on. He doesn’t seem to want to deal with player egos, he’s already been there so that “attraction and mystery” factor doesn’t really exist for him.

I just don’t see it happening. So of course it probably will.

Either way we’re gettin’ a new DC.

"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer

by Flakbait on Dec 13, 2011 8:45 AM CST reply actions  

More on this Sokol kid

this blog post includes videos

Initially, I thought maybe Weinke was done. He’s heading into his fifth year and moving on would make sense. But, after discussion I agree that he’s being targeted to take Derby’s spot. His Twitter bio says he was born in Iowa and I’ve heard that he would be interested in a red shirt.

seriously?

by PSD on Dec 13, 2011 8:48 AM CST reply actions  

Prep the Gone Baby Gone story.

Along with the JoePa obit.

Somewhere I read that the leading cause of old people croaking in the hospital was pneumonia. But the reason they were in the hospital was for a broken hip. So the real leading cause of old people dieing in the hospital is a broken hip.

by Stay thirsty, my friends. on Dec 13, 2011 8:49 AM CST reply actions  

Are you sure?

Maybe the real main reason for old people dieing in hospitals is hospitals. I mean, how many old people who die in hospitals aren’t in a hospital? None. Hospitals kill old people!

"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass

by chitownhawkeye on Dec 13, 2011 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

now this is rocket science

headed to the moon with verner von braun
NOT

Her noblesse exceeded her oblige

by OhioHawk on Dec 13, 2011 5:48 PM CST up reply actions  

and btw

The Keckster is a funny guy, give him a follow

seriously?

by PSD on Dec 13, 2011 8:49 AM CST reply actions  

What?

You want us to follow someone who posted a fake rumor that has now negatively impacted recruiting?

by Notclevr on Dec 13, 2011 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Well it turned out not to be fake

And also it’s not that dude’s fault that Rob Howe is a complete moron.

by NorseHawk on Dec 13, 2011 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

well, per his bio
I have an uncanny resemblance to Patrick Dempsey

seriously?

by PSD on Dec 13, 2011 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

How has it negatively affected recruiting?

It probably went entirely unnoticed outside of Iowa. I doubt Rob Howe has a strong national presence on twitter.

by The Mexican't on Dec 13, 2011 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

This seems to be the perfect situation for Ferentz to leave

He has a close friend as GM, taking over a team that is one year removed from the playoffs and if it were not for injuries this year could still be very competitive in the West, Norm just retired, he may be feeling a little heat from the last two seasons here. All of that being said, my gut says that he is not interested.

DRUNJIFORNICATION

by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Dec 13, 2011 8:50 AM CST reply actions  

you forgot the Stanzi factor...makes it "more" perfect

Private Joker, he's silly and he's ignorant, but he's got guts and guts is enough. Now you ladies carry on!

by privatejoker on Dec 13, 2011 9:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Other complicating factors include...

Haley was fired after being the coach for about 45 seconds. He also was blamed for losses when he was without his starting QB, RB, TE, and attrition on the Offensive Line and Secondary.

My guess (emphasis on guess) is that despite the match made in heaven ESPN thinks it would be, you’ve got to look at the circumstances under which Haley left. I think they tend to dissuade someone who (next to Frank Beamer) is the least fireable coach in college football.

"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"

by One_ill_KevinJ on Dec 13, 2011 1:23 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Pioli hired Haley as well, in fact it was one if his first duties as GM.

There’s no evidence at all that he’d be more forgiving of a Ferentz era in the same situation.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 13, 2011 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

sure, now that the hire didn't work

It’s his ass or the coach’s, so throw the coach under the bus to save your own ass.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 13, 2011 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Disagree, the year before Haley they were 2-14.

In just 2 years he turned them into a playoff team, and they could have probably been in the same situation this year if not for a lot of bad injuries. He got fired because they hate each other, not because he can’t coach.

by clay-born to party on Dec 13, 2011 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Not recruited

for his command of the english language.

Maybe that’s why KF doesn’t want his players using social media.

"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer

by Flakbait on Dec 13, 2011 9:01 AM CST up reply actions  

having a little problem believing

he is going to make the grades and test scores. Not giving me an overwhelming sense of confidence.

"40 MINUTES OF MEH!" - djwoody

by The Bacon Explosion on Dec 13, 2011 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Obviously Twitter speak is the end-all be-all of grade evaluation.

He didn’t even capitalize “Ferentz”. He’s a D student at best.

/Rivals’d

by The Mexican't on Dec 13, 2011 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

tisk tisk tisk

spelling, puntuation, grammar
highly over rated

Her noblesse exceeded her oblige

by OhioHawk on Dec 13, 2011 5:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Hopefully the AIDBHG doesn't get him

that’d be hlorrible

seriously?

by PSD on Dec 13, 2011 5:53 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I don't mind the abbreviations too much

(ok, that’s a lie, I do because GET OFF MY LAWN DAMN KIDS)
but seriously, dropping the last three letters of the word is just lazy.

"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass

by chitownhawkeye on Dec 13, 2011 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

He probably doesn't have a smartphone

Twitter is hard enough without having to hit the 7 key four times to make an S.

by Notclevr on Dec 13, 2011 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe it was supposed to be

he best not leave?

That seems like a much more natural dialect

Executive Producer - WRNL TV

by CyHawk on Dec 13, 2011 2:21 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I got the cheapest I-Wireless phone

as an interim solution.

It’s configured for T9….but only for Spanish and Portugese.

by Cattlefeeder on Dec 13, 2011 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

It's all about Swype in today's world.

"West Texas seems to be full of fake boobs providing a comfortable shade for well-developed pot bellies" - Lycurgus (06/24/2011)

by BStylin Hawkye on Dec 13, 2011 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I used Swype until I decided I'd be purchasing an iPhone.

I’m currently re-training my thumbs in touchscreen QWERTY in to make the switch simpler. I think I prefer QWERTY with auto-correct to Swype.

by The Mexican't on Dec 13, 2011 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh come on now

twitter and text-speak is not only normal on those formats, it’s abbreviated for a reason.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 13, 2011 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

You clearly haven't seen some of the papers freshmen at Iowa turn in.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Dec 13, 2011 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Some of the dumbest people I have ever met

were freshmen. After awhile you cease to be amazed at how incredibly stupid people are. Don’t stop lauging though.

"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer

by Flakbait on Dec 13, 2011 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Where's Lycurgus?

He’s my current favorite authority on the writing ability of college students (disclaimer – TTech is an actual accredited college).

by txhawkeye on Dec 13, 2011 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

I will agree with this

The first time my freshman suitemate asked me to review a paper she was turning in the next day, I was in shock. It seemed she hadn’t gotten past what to me seemed like 5th grade English/writing. It was so simple, pretty blatant plagiarism (which was easy to spot—anything that didn’t seem like a 11 year old wrote it was pulled write from the source), had no topic sentences, really easy spelling and grammar mistakes, etc. I don’t know how she got admitted. Granted, I think she ended up dropping out after sophomore year.

by Captain n Diet Coker on Dec 13, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Shoot – you caught it after it made me laugh. You know, it’s Ross’ fault we can’t do simple editing.

by txhawkeye on Dec 13, 2011 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Dec 13, 2011 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes.

And, sure, some of them didn’t make it past that first year (or even the first semester)… but many did. And they didn’t exactly turn into wondrous writers.

The writing skills of your average college student — especially at a school like Iowa — are pretty appalling, frankly.

Shit, I was horrified at the writing skills of a lot of folks in LAW SCHOOL.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Dec 13, 2011 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Shit, I was horrified at the writing skills of a lot of folks in LAW SCHOOL.

I am nodding in agreement.

"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood

by SomeJerkPoster on Dec 13, 2011 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

My neighborhood Target is next to a business with the name

Just Brakes And More

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 13, 2011 12:47 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Clearly

just another example of a player who can’t “execute” properly

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 13, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Whr did u lrn to spel?
jus nother xampl of playr can’t "xcute" proply

/tweet fixed

Every word that ends in -oma is cancer. What does that tell you about Oklahoma?

by TEXaco on Dec 13, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

It's twitter people!!

You keep it short. You should not judge a person’s intelligence by his tweets or txts.

by cbhawk89 on Dec 13, 2011 9:17 AM CST up reply actions  

I gree wit dis

You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Dec 13, 2011 10:35 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

or

the things they say or the actions they take.

by jakeic on Dec 13, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Strait bullshit

"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe

by Brock8144 on Dec 13, 2011 12:29 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I wonder if that's Hinrich's record that he's about to break.

At one time I know he had the SC prep scoring record. Not sure if someone broke it between now and then.

I also wonder if we could sneak Gesell and Woodbury on the team now. I’m pretty sure they would start.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Dec 13, 2011 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Love the Hayden story

from the HLOG’s writeup:

"I just told my football team that that’s what’s wrong with our ballclub. We get our__ kicked and get complimented. If I see one guy with a smile on his face I’m gonna bust him right in the mouth."

and later:

"We just don’t have the tradition yet, and the national ranking. We just don’t realize we can play with anyone in the country. Don’t get me wrong. I love my football team.

"I’m proud of my team, but I just wish they would grow up. I’m not impatient, understand, but we had a chance to win last week (a 30-26 loss at Indiana), we had a chance to win today and we’ll have a chance next week (against Nebraska)." – HF

by stewartom on Dec 13, 2011 10:06 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

This job would be the perfect one to leave for, but I just don't see him going anywhere

He’ has one kid still on the team and the other is about to walk-on. Even with people here whining about him constantly, he’s got way better job security than he’d ever have in the NFL. And he’d probably be taking a pay cut. It just doesn’t seem very likely.

I really wish this shit would quit popping up every single year. It can’t be good for recruiting and we’re already facing an uphill climb there.

by NorseHawk on Dec 13, 2011 10:10 AM CST reply actions  

Why would Ferentz have to take a pay cut in the NFL?

I can’t imagine KC hiring for Ferentz for any less than $4M/year. I couldn’t find Haley’s salary, but can’t imagine Ferentz needing to take a pay cut in the NFL.

by The Mexican't on Dec 13, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure his current salary would put him comfortably in the top half of NFL coaches

Maybe I’m wrong, but that seems like a lot for a guy with no NFL experience beyond position coaching, coming off a 7 win college season.

by NorseHawk on Dec 13, 2011 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

yes, this

Top 10 salaries for 2011 (source)

Sr. No. Head Coaches Team Salary*
1 Bill Belichick New England Patriots $7.50 million
2 Mike Shanahan Washington Redskins $7.00 million
3 Pete Carroll Seattle Seahawks $6.70 million
4 Jeff Fisher Tennessee Titans $5.75 million
5 Mike Tomlin Pittsburgh Steelers $5.75 million
6 Ken Whisenhunt Arizona Cardinals $5.75 million
7 Andy Reid Philadelphia Eagles $5.50 million
8 Tom Coughlin New York Giants $5.25 million
9 Jack Del Rio Jacksonville Jaguars $5.00 million
10 Lovie Smith Chicago Bears $4.80 million

Almost all of those guys are longevity raises, and all have won a division title (except maybe Del Rio?)

Hard to find the rest of the details, but the general consensus is that starting HCs make $1.5M to $3M unless they have the pedigree of a Pete Carroll or Nick Saban. I think KF would probably make $2.5M-$4M for a starting point, so not a huge drop but probably a drop nonetheless.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 13, 2011 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

There's also the very real issue of job security

NFL coaches simply don’t have it. And right now, KF does

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 13, 2011 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

With the exception of Bill Snyder (Iowa guy!!)

it would appear coaching a football team with “Kansas” somewhere in the name has a very real issue of job security.

by txhawkeye on Dec 13, 2011 12:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Bill Snyder is undead and unstoppable.

Also, the K-State AD is probably scared of him. I would be.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Dec 13, 2011 12:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Although at this point

Kirk has quite literally made his millions. He may just think that if he were ever going to take a stab at this now might be the time. If it doesn’t work out I don’t know that he strikes me as the type to go crazy without coaching like a Meyer or Schnellenberger.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Dec 13, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

True

though the scuttlebutt/rumors I’ve heard is that Mrs. Ferentz isn’t exactly eager to pack-up and move to a new city (and this has been the case for years)

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 13, 2011 12:46 PM CST up reply actions  

For all we know

She could be a steak

Every word that ends in -oma is cancer. What does that tell you about Oklahoma?

by TEXaco on Dec 13, 2011 12:51 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I've seen her

granted only in pictures, but I’ve seen her. She was instrumental in getting the Iowa Ladies Football Academy up and running.

by Captain n Diet Coker on Dec 13, 2011 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

It's true you don't see many Ferentz women.

And this in turn has given rise to the belief that there are no Ferentz women, and that Ferentzes just spring out of holes in the ground! Which is, of course, ridiculous.

"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"

by IPeeBlackAndGold on Dec 13, 2011 1:33 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

a Ferentz daughter is in my sister's book club.

i met the book club but i didn’t know who was who, so it could have been all a lie.

by jakeic on Dec 13, 2011 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

How many Ferentii are there?

He has at least 4 sons and now maybe several daughters? His legendarily stoic expression apparently hides his true incubus nature.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 13, 2011 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Only three sons.

Brian, James, Steven.

Two or three daughters, I think.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Dec 14, 2011 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

But they all sing.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Dec 14, 2011 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Silly NorseHawk

Dikembe doesn’t reject game, he only wants to know who’s gong to sex him that night.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 13, 2011 1:54 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Totally blanking on her name but

I went to high school with one of them, smoking hot.

by HawkeyeHoncho on Dec 13, 2011 5:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Was it Kelly?

She went to Iowa Law. Was a year ahead of me.

by Bryce Carlson on Dec 14, 2011 12:29 AM CST up reply actions  

C’mon you guys – you know this a Lord of the Rings reference, right?

by txhawkeye on Dec 13, 2011 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I see what you did there

You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Dec 13, 2011 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

I rec'd it right away.

But I’m super-nerdy.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Dec 14, 2011 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Its like female smufs and female Tleilaxu

NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN ONE

Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!

http://www.thebirdcult.net

by The Bird Cult on Dec 13, 2011 5:58 PM CST up reply actions  

We have seen female Smurfs, but only one of them.

With just one female servicing a large group of males, that implies that Smurfs are a species that lays eggs.

On the other hand, Papa Smurf has a beard, which means he must be a mammal.

Hmmm…..

by DrHenryKillinger on Dec 14, 2011 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

And Smurfette was created by Gargamel

and was not indigenous to the Smurf population.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 15, 2011 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

How are rumors of 'KF to NFL' bad for recruiting?

Just an honest question. If I’m a recruit, it tells me he’s still included and respected in the NFL community, my prospective future employer. And even if it comes up often, he has a decade of history of staying at Iowa.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 13, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

I think you're being naive if you think the NFL chatter doesn't scare off some kids.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Dec 13, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

I think it's like any factor

Scares off some, bolsters others. Maybe you’re right that it’s more in favor of the former, I honestly don’t know the answer.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 13, 2011 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

It's a double-edged sword, yes, but there's definitely SOME negative factor there.

To what extent… hard to say, I’m sure.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Dec 13, 2011 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

It definitely scares off kids

Ruben Lile (another commit from the same school as Laron Taylor), said something about how he almost called up Georgia Tech again because of Laron’s tweet. I think they were talked down though.

by Captain n Diet Coker on Dec 13, 2011 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

If Ferentz is seriously considering the offer he will do so quickly and make an announcement

and if Pioli told him he wants him “in the mix” but needs to do a full scale set of interviews, and vet every candidate and the process will take a few weeks, then I expect Ferentz to bow out. If, however, KF’s already told Pioli “count me out” or something along those lines then I could imagine KF using this chatter to a) improve his profile with recruits and disgruntled fans and b) get a bit more leverage with Barta & Co., and c) make a few more dollars. Don’t laugh at the latter, this is what agents do. And I do know that Iowa uses the “the NFL loves and trusts Ferentz” pitch like CRAZY.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 13, 2011 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I really hope that options b and c aren't true

because they would show an amazing, and troubling, tone-deafness in Kirk Ferentz

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 13, 2011 12:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think B is a problem

C would be though. Leverage is something no contract employee ever feels s/he has enough of and I would not begrudge him wanting, say, a better car for an assistant coach or new bathrooms someplace or even more influence over who gets tickets or something. When you look at what Michigan and OSU are paying their assistants I think KF might need to occasionally show some love to his boys in one way or another.

Ferentz might really be weighing this opportunity if it indeed exists, in any form. I doubt KF is looking at it as a money thing too. He is on record as saying he took the Iowa job because it was the best job out there at the time, not out of any loyalty to Iowa or Hayden or the area.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 13, 2011 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Gotcha

I have no problem with KF using this to generally make life better for his assistants or to have more $$ to bring in a high-profile DC if they were to go that route, however unlikely. But I think any attempt by KF to leverage this situation to get more money/perks for himself would go over by a lead balloon given the past two seasons.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 13, 2011 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Not to mention the parents

My older daughter had decisions to make when she went to college, was recruited around the country for lacrosse (she and I decided she didn’t want to play D1 for a plethora of reasons) and you bet I was looking at coach’s likelihood of moving in the first couple of years. And this was lacrosse! Look at TN when that dope Kiffin left. Yeah – I don’t think you want to get into that kind of scenario when you haven’t committed yet.

by txhawkeye on Dec 13, 2011 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

A huge part of the reason kids sign with a particular school is that they have built a relationship with the coach and want to play for him. They don’t want to hear that he might be gone before they even set foot on campus, replaced by some guy they have no relationship with.

by NorseHawk on Dec 13, 2011 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Exactly

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 13, 2011 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

You're making good points that persuade me.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 13, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Because sometimes rumors come true

“Neuheisel/Erickson/Zook/Paterno to be fired” started out as rumors too. How’d that work out for them?

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 13, 2011 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

With fat contract buyouts?

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Dec 13, 2011 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, hard to feel bad for them.

Related: the Coco movement was idiotic. He got $50M to sit on his ass. We should all be so “slighted”

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 13, 2011 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not saying that anyone should feel bad for them

and I’m positively giddy that Neuheisel got the boot. Just pointing out that just because things begin as “rumors” – and are sneeringly dismissed as such – doesn’t mean there isn’t truth behind them. And in the case of in-coming recruits, rumors and innuendo can be extremely detrimental

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 13, 2011 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Wasn't disparaging your point. Just a BHGP tangent I got on.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 13, 2011 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

rumor mill says

Mccall may be gone baby gone. anyone heard anything?

by Drake Hawk on Dec 13, 2011 10:47 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

NO

but would anyone really be surprised?

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 13, 2011 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

oh, and i hope he learned his lesson

and if he didn’t, we didn’t want that goodfornothing on this wholesome bunch of rabble-rousing alcoholics anyway

meh

by tyger1147 on Dec 13, 2011 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Strait Bullshit

Carpe Diem! - Seize the Carp!

by pollo diablo on Dec 13, 2011 12:34 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Nothing official has been said

but honestly, Ferentz could fix it all if he would just play the kid during the bowl. playing McCall during the bowl is a win win win win JUST DO IT!

so clearly he will run Coker a billion times during the game.

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by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 13, 2011 7:39 PM CST up reply actions  

In their podcast this week

Morehouse and Dochterman all but said that McCall was gone

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 14, 2011 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Good post

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Dec 13, 2011 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

I spent my entire four years there outside of class. Definitely a disservice to the students that attend now.

by IAinCA on Dec 13, 2011 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I also spent my four years outside of the class at the Field House.

Although it was split between two different FH locations.

Because the Gulfstream 5 has neither the airspeed nor the specs to adequately describe how fly I feel.

by DonnyDonovan on Dec 13, 2011 3:44 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Wait

The whole field house is closed now? The only pick-up courts are now across the river at the new rec building?

It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care

by Colteyes on Dec 13, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Not yet, but that's the plan eventually.

They’re going to knock down the Fieldhouse for a new addition to the hospital.

by NorseHawk on Dec 13, 2011 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I know a guy who was on the board there for awhile

He insists that there were at one point there were top secret plans for a hospital expansion, and Kinnick Stadium was nowhere to be seen on them.

by NorseHawk on Dec 13, 2011 5:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I think that's a pretty well-known "secret" ambition

7 Saturdays a year the hospital, and especially the ER, is functionally closed off.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 13, 2011 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I have no idea about the plans for the hospital expanding

But you’d think with them tearing down the Fieldhouse to make room for hospital expansion, they’d make it so access to the hospital is a lot easier from that side (the non-Kinnick side). That could solve some traffic problems on game day.

by Captain n Diet Coker on Dec 14, 2011 9:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Damn

I still miss the days of pick up and not so pick up games of volleyball.
And wallyball. Oh, the glories of wallyball. My only intramural championship sport.

"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass

by chitownhawkeye on Dec 13, 2011 8:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I once hit 9 straight 3's in a high school intramural game.

Several of which were 4-5 feet behind the arc. That day I felt closer to God Kingsbury.

Then I punched the guy defending me and pissed in the school cafeteria.
/wishes that last part were true…

"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"

by IPeeBlackAndGold on Dec 14, 2011 12:42 AM CST up reply actions  

The Field House is GONE? WHAT THE FUCK?

Damn. I shot baskets with Brad Lohaus in there. I watched Marble, Horton and Armstrong play pickup against anyone brave enough to take ‘em on. (I wasn’t brave or good enough). I had my best ever pickup basketball game as a student in there…

ITS GONE????

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by The Bird Cult on Dec 14, 2011 2:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Am I the only one who thinks that Riley Reiff is not ready for the NFL

I think both Ferentz and Zusevics were both consistantly better than Reiff this past season.

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by Kluginator on Dec 13, 2011 4:56 PM CST reply actions  

he may not be quite ready.

and no matter what, another year under one of the best offensive lineman coaches would do him good, but its first round NFL money YALL! unless he can be a #1 overall pick why stick around?

"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts

by justsomehawkeyefan on Dec 13, 2011 7:44 PM CST up reply actions  

The scouts disagree.

The guys that are paid to evaluate talent have Reiff as a first round pick and the 2nd best draft eligible OT in the country. The only LT ranked above him has already announced that he’ll return to USC for his senior season. I think Reiff was hampered by average-to-poor help at LG. I’m sure he’s got some areas to work on, but it’s probably crazy to think he’ll stay. He may well end up a top 5 pick.

by The Mexican't on Dec 13, 2011 9:00 PM CST up reply actions  

If you didn't read the landthieves link

sounds like at least three players are transferring out at OU

seriously?

by PSD on Dec 13, 2011 5:38 PM CST reply actions  

prior to the bowl?

If so, 16 points looks even tastier.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 13, 2011 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

don't think they are starters

but something is going on there

seriously?

by PSD on Dec 13, 2011 5:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I've idled at Crimson and Cream

a few times in the last couple weeks. They, uh, kind of sound like a lot of us. Except they’re more pissy about the players not giving two shits and entitlement and what not. And maybe it’s time for Stoops to move on, etc, etc. Although they make player attrition sound more like the coaching staff moving them out ala the SEC

by txhawkeye on Dec 13, 2011 6:24 PM CST up reply actions  

they are getting visits from Texas AM commits

four stars galore too. Makes a difference when you replace your transfers with Top 150 players.

seriously?

by PSD on Dec 13, 2011 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Unless one of them is Wegher

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 14, 2011 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Sorry if this shows up earlier in the threads....

Wasn’t KF in KC last week when we were watching a plane from State College ( or Altoona ) to Cedar Rapids???
Hmmmmmm……

by Ordinary Joe on Dec 13, 2011 6:30 PM CST reply actions  

Chicago, IIRC

he was down in Missouri meeting with the Lohn kid

seriously?

by PSD on Dec 13, 2011 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Those dead hookers in his closet are going to hurt when they vet him.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Dec 13, 2011 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

While I would love to get him off ESPN

I think the country has enough problems right now that adding him to the mix in Washington won’t be helpful

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 14, 2011 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Don't know if this has been said but...

Adam Schefter is an overpaid gas bag who’s never, according to my crack research team, cited a named source. If he’s right it’s about 10% of the time.

by rosko on Dec 15, 2011 11:20 AM CST reply actions  

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