The Takeaway: Michigan
Sure, Iowa just hung on for an upset victory against Michigan, 24-16. But what was really important about beating Michigan? How much do we really know? What does it all mean, Basil? The Takeaway has the answer.
Michigan, you got Demarlo'd! It's not entirely fair to compare Junior Hemingway's attempted one-hand grab with Demarlo Belcher's extremely unfortunate drop against Iowa in 2010; Belcher's catch was orders of magnitude easier, it would have won the game outright, and it came on 4th down, not 2nd like Hemingway's. Those are all the differences.
That all said, Michigan had a potential game-tying TD (pending the conversion, of course) in its proverbial hands and the receiver just plain couldn't pull the ball in correctly, and that's the type of margin that exists in close games like this. If all you want to do is take positives from the previous 59 minutes and 58 seconds just because Hemingway can't make a falling one-handed grab, that's your prerogative, but it's a dumb way to learn anything about football.
No, the fact is that Iowa won this game in the first three quarters, and for once failed to give the game away late, as is often the Hawkeyes' prerogative. The problem's not solved. It just didn't affect the W/L columns this time.
If you invite Broderick Binns to make a big play, he'll do it. Marvin McNutt set a career high for receptions and topped 100 receiving yards for the sixth time this season (he had done it three times in his career before the 2011 season), Marcus Coker posted 100 yards and two scores for the sixth time in nine games this year, and James Vandenberg increased his TD-INT ratio to 18-4 on the year while avoiding getting wrecked on perimeter blitzes. These are Iowa's offensive stars, and they came up big once again this week.
And yet, the (rightful) victor in Ross' man of the match poll this week is Broderick Binns, who made life hell for both Denard Robinson and Devin Gardner on the defense's left edge. Binns posted three passes broken up, two tackles for a loss, one sack, and a forced intentional grounding penalty on the week, and his job of funneling Denard Robinson on rushes to the right was downright heroic. It's a lot easier to contain Robinson if he's not allowed to get to the corner with impunity, but that is far easier said than done -- especially when accounting for the pass option, which is a set of responsibilities that's expansive enough to keep most defensive ends flat-footed when it's time to make a play on Robinson.
And so, for whatever reason, Michigan tried to roll its quarterbacks toward Binns and then throw right past him, and that is a sensationally bad idea against the defensive end with probably the longest arms in the league. Binns is far from a flawless defensive end -- run right at him with a double-team, for example, and that point of attack belongs entirely to the offense -- but if you force him to use his long arms or otherwise play the pass, he's probably going to succeed.
Marcus Coker might yet be the best back in the Big Ten after all. Is Marcus Coker definitively the best back in the conference? No. But he's on the short list, and you could make the case that he's atop the list. Here are the Big Ten-only stats per game (since, let's be honest, what you do to Northeast Butt State doesn't matter) of Dan Herron, Rex Burkhead, Montee Ball, Silas Redd, and Marcus Coker -- generally accepted as the top five halfbacks in the Big Ten this season.
Back A: 5 games, 19.8 rushes, 143.2 yards, 2.4 rushing TDs; 1.4 receptions, 21.8 yards, 0.4 receiving TDs
Back B: 5 games, 24.8 rushes, 106.2 yards, 1.2 rushing TDs; 2.4 receptions, 21.8 yards, 0.4 receiving TDs
Back C: 5 games, 24.8 rushes, 144.2 yards, 1.6 rushing TDs; 0.4 receptions, 7.6 yards, 0 receiving TDs
Back D: 3 games, 23.3 rushes, 147.6 yards, 0.6 rushing TDs; 0.3 receptions, -1.0 yards, 0 receiving TDs
Back E: 5 games, 26.6 rushes, 140.6 yards, 0.6 rushing TDs; 0.8 receptions, 2.0 yards, 0 receiving TDs
If you haven't figured it out, the five players are merely listed in alphabetical order, which means Back C is Coker, and he absolutely holds his own with his peers. Better yet, he doesn't even resemble the tentative, fumble-prone back that was wearing his jersey in the first month of the season; that back got yards, but it always seemed like he wasn't even close to maximizing his production considering what the line was doing. That criticism is no longer valid; Coker is initiating contact and mashing fools, and his fumble problems have concurrently disappeared. Considering Iowa lost its top backup after one quarter of the season and Ferentz has basically leaned on Coker as an exclusive ball-carrier, that's a remarkable feat.
This is still Iowa's story to write. Let's say Iowa has a 40% chance to beat MSU (who is -3 in early lines) this week, 70% to win at OUR MOST HATED RIVAL Purdue, and (generously) 25% at Nebraska. Cumulatively, that would give Iowa a 7% chance of running the table, which is truly not good. But we're sayin' there's a chance. The beauty of it all is that by winning out, which week-to-week is not all that implausible, Iowa makes it to the Big Ten championship game, where the current favorite to represent the Leaders Division is Penn State. We want a Penn State rematch on a neutral field, don't we? We've got to.
Of course, for Iowa to run the table, it's going to take a higher level of play than we've seen from the Hawkeyes all season long, and that's why this is a longshot above all else; let's not be upset if Iowa ends up 7-5 and headed to the Gator Bowl or Pizza Pizza Bowl or Whatever Nobody Cares Bowl. Iowa had its chances to win the games that Top 25 teams are supposed to win, and the Hawkeyes blew those chances twice, so in a division-less Big Ten, here we are so [descending sunglasses] deal with it already.
But we're in the Legends Division, damn it, and in Legendary Historic Legends Division, late-season runs mean something. So let's see Iowa hold serve at home and give the Kinnick faithful an unbeaten season in the friendly confines, then take the fight to the road and put Iowa in position to make a postseason splash in a season we all left for dead.
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Orne would split her in two.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Nov 7, 2011 8:56 AM CST up reply actions
crush her, like grape
"Sometimes the truth gets in the way of a good story" - KF
by The Bacon Explosion on Nov 7, 2011 9:30 AM CST up reply actions
Launch her into space

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull." - W.C. Fields
"That's 100% Iowa White Snake"
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Nov 7, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
Ooh, do his next line!
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Nov 7, 2011 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
er, Mother's line. Not Eightball's
It’s early.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Nov 7, 2011 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
No.
At least according to ESPN, so who knows if it’s accurate.
"There are no Pan Asian supermarkets down in hell, so you can't buy Golden Boy peanuts." - The Mountain Goats
They also announced this in Kinnick.
This is the first time, it’s a fact.
They say you're a pitcher, you're sure not much of a dresser. We wear caps and sleeves on this level, son.
Gator Bowl
I live in Jacksonville, and talked to a media person who is friends with the Gator Bowl selection committee. They apparently are looking at Iowa, Penn State, Wisconsin, Ohio State, and Michigan. One team they absolutely don’t want is Illinois. So, if it comes down to Illinois and Iowa, we should get the nod. Living in Jacksonville, I already have my tickets.
I may love the Steelers, but I live and die by my Hawkeyes.
I was looking at our bowl possibiliteis last night
Possible Iowa-Auburn match-up in the Gator? I would be happy with that.
MasCasa reported
that Cap One and Outback Bowl reps were at the Michigan game. I can only assume the Cap One folks were there largely to look at Michigan.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
That would certainly seem the case
BTW, what a job that is: “Bowl Rep”. You have the easiest job in the world selling your product to schools and networks, you have guaranteed profitability when requiring schools to buy a bloc of tickets, and your highly-paid job consists of “looking at” teams by traveling first-class to their venues and being feted at a level that recruits can only dream about.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Nov 7, 2011 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
There were Pinstripe Bowl reps at LSU-Alabama.
As I have said many times in the past, I want to be a bowl rep.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I wonder where a person applies for that.
Seriously.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Nov 7, 2011 2:31 PM CST up reply actions
You must be the personal friend of a bowl CEO
To be CEO, you must have either started the bowl or be personal friends with several university chancellors/presidents.
Pretty much like all no-show jobs, really.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Nov 7, 2011 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
That's just because
you want unlimited Papa John’s Pizza and Bell Helicopters.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Nov 8, 2011 1:22 AM CST up reply actions
You say that like it's a bad thing.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Given how well Michigan Travels, I don't doubt it.
There were tons of Maize and Blue around me (Section 106 Row 9). Nice people. Football IQ is high.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Nov 7, 2011 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
Cap One
would looooooove snag Michigan.
And all they really care about is 1) TV Ratings, 2) Ticket sales
That’s why jNW will always get jumped in the bowl selections.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
And still lose.
Remember that. They don’t just lose literally every bowl game – they lose them all the while playing down a spot or two in the pecking order.
And that’s why they’re just Northwestern.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt
And now it's stuck in my head
And will be all day. Thanks Jacobi.
+1
Excellent.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Nov 7, 2011 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
I don't want them to gain another yard. You blitz all night.
we’re in the Legends Division, damn it, and in Legendary Historic Legends Division, late-season runs mean something. So let’s see Iowa hold serve at home and give the Kinnick faithful an unbeaten season in the friendly confines, then take the fight to the road and put Iowa in position to make a postseason splash in a season we all left for dead.
Here Here! Har Har!
Also: this video Not sure if I got it from here a while ago, Facebook, or the ether, but it seems appropriate.
I don't even want to name the name of that bowl.
So I’m not going to.
BUT there is still a chance…..
This needs to be posted at the top of the home page for the next 3 weeks
let’s not be upset if Iowa ends up 7-5 and headed to the Gator Bowl or Pizza Pizza Bowl or Whatever Nobody Cares Bowl.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
by Nickhawk08 on Nov 7, 2011 9:05 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
Although MSU is much better than Purdue
I would flip those likely win percentages to 70 percent against Sparty and 40 percent against OMHR. That is the depth of difference between Home Iowa and Road Iowa. I think Home Iowa is a Top 20 team. Road Iowa is about on par with a Sub Belt team.
by Torbee on Nov 7, 2011 9:11 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Yeah, MSU is the game I feel the best about by far
Which makes no sense because they’re arguably the best team left on the schedule and can also exploit a huge weakness by blitzing us to death. But the team is just so different at home (and MSU has struggled against us in Kinnick so frequently in recent years), that I can’t help but think that it’s our best chance at a 7th win. Purdue is not very good, but we always play like shit at Purdue, even in years where we did not lose at Iowa State and Minnesota.
I agree mostly.
I think the unmeasurable factors bring those games a lot closer to even. I honestly think our team may be in Cousins’ head a little bit. Kind of like how we were the monkey on D. Clark’s back for years. Blah blah his history as a hawkeye fan blah blah. Just seemed like every time they got a good drive together last year they ended up giving the ball away. I also think Ferentz just plain doesn’t like Dantonio and will want to pulverize him into the ground.
I would assume that feeling is reciprocated
"Sometimes the truth gets in the way of a good story" - KF
by The Bacon Explosion on Nov 7, 2011 9:33 AM CST up reply actions
I have heard they don't like each other
but why? What am I missing here? I need “the rest of the story”, please.
TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin
I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! - Jim Zabel
by Bloodpunch's Barbasol on Nov 7, 2011 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
I believe the bad blood is rooted in several aspects.
1) Recruiting issues
2) Rucker
3) MSU sucks.
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by EnergizerHawk on Nov 7, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
I know for a fact the staff was very pissed
When Dantonio stood over Colin Sandeman’s motionless, concussed body and bitched out the ref for throwing a personal foul flag. Heard that from a very close source.
by Torbee on Nov 7, 2011 11:14 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
The coaches' handshake from that "Seven got six" game...
… stands out tellingly from memory, but the Interwebs fails to recollect it in all its glory.
I hope McCall plays and plays lights out
Just to show Dantonio what he missed out on. Like a hot girl that has sex with your best friend.
"Woody Orne with the one-handed grab!"
by One_ill_KevinJ on Nov 7, 2011 1:53 PM CST up reply actions
It almost makes me want them to take the redshirt off of Cooper
just as a big “Fuck You” to Dantonio/MSU.
by Captain n Diet Coker on Nov 8, 2011 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
Hopefully, we can make them put the game in Cousins' hands.
If they can get their run game going…it may be a long day.
by One Night Stanzi on Nov 7, 2011 9:34 AM CST up reply actions
To do that
we’d have to get through his mane and that weird hat/beenie/yarmulke he wears.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Nov 7, 2011 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
I also think Ferentz just plain doesn’t like Dantonio and will want topulverize him into the groundget a 14 point lead by half time then take a knee with 3 timeouts and 90 seconds left on the clock. Then in the second half allow Mich St to come back and in the end beat them by less than 7 points with a defense stand in the red zone.
Fixed
Um, you mean like the way Kirk took all three timeouts into the locker room last year?
Wait, he just kept waiting until Dantonio started toward the locker room and THEN called the timeout so that he’d have to keep walking back to his sideline to wait for the next one.
That was excellent. You mean like that?
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Nov 7, 2011 11:58 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Sub-Belt?
So… a crotch?
"Pursue happiness... with diligence."
by Bucketochicken on Nov 7, 2011 9:43 AM CST up reply actions
Big Crotch Conference
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Nov 7, 2011 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
I think it's terrific.
"Pursue happiness... with diligence."
by Bucketochicken on Nov 7, 2011 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
Just win this week, baby.
And then who cares?
Undefeated in Kinnick would make for the Best “bad” Year ever!
Just gonna throw this out there:
The mood around here today is MUCH better than a week ago.
"No I'm not going to 'limber up'. You ever see a lion stretching before it takes down a gazelle?"
FIRE THE MODERATORS!!
Wait a second…
FIRE LAST WEEK’S MODERATORS!!
by TwistConePlease on Nov 7, 2011 9:42 AM CST up reply actions
Winning cures what ails you, doesn't it?
As long as you don’t have administrative scandal, that is.
"No I'm not going to 'limber up'. You ever see a lion stretching before it takes down a gazelle?"
What an awful situation
and it would seem to have the potential to become incredibly ugly. I hope we all tread lightly on this one in terms of quips or atttempts at humor, because at the moment I can’t think of anything appropriate.
FOUR. THREE. COVER. TWO.
by Mr. Grizz on Nov 7, 2011 10:09 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed, it is a terrible situation, especially for the victims.
In hindsight, even my little quip was probably ill-advised, at best. All I know is that if something like this happened to my child, there wouldn’t be a 12-15 year wait for justice, that’s for damned sure.
"No I'm not going to 'limber up'. You ever see a lion stretching before it takes down a gazelle?"
The appropriate response
is to keep it to yourself unless there’s something of substance to add to the conversation. It’s horrifying on pretty much every conceivable level.
Unsurprisingly, that jackass from OTE, “SouthBayBuckeye”, made a comment to the effect of “well even though I should totally make fun of PSU for this I’ll take the high road”. Wow, how magnanimous of him.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Nov 7, 2011 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
And your response was exactly what was needed
I really think Spencer Hall is doing a good job regarding the issues. Hell, Deadspin is too.
It's a shame Graham and Co. are so permissive
because that clown and a few others dissuade a whole lot of folks from participating in what could be a great forum.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Nov 7, 2011 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
I just read through some of the comments
Buckeye fans actually find it humorous. What a sad state of affairs. When you find something like this funny because of a sour relationship with a fanbase over the internet…it is probably time to quit the internet.
Well, they've been waiting for their "chance" to "get back"
at PSU fans and some (admittedly) nasty glee over the OSU debacle from the last year. What they don’t get is this isn’t that chance.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Nov 7, 2011 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
It's pretty sick and twisted to even begin to compare this with Tressel-gate.
Covering up alleged sexual abuse of any kind is miles and miles worse than covering up for guys getting tattoos for free, or ANY of the other scandals that have been headlines in the last year.
"No I'm not going to 'limber up'. You ever see a lion stretching before it takes down a gazelle?"
that is just F'ing disgusting
I would hope it is isolated to a few dumbasses who have no clue the magnitude of their statements.
"Sometimes the truth gets in the way of a good story" - KF
by The Bacon Explosion on Nov 7, 2011 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
Look, every fanbase (even ours) has these idiots.
I actually know plenty of decent OSU people (they’re insufferable, but still good people). In our little SBN Corner of the World there just happens to be some truly poor representatives of that school and their fans.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Nov 7, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
It's disgusting watching people who clearly don't understand the law/procedures at play
try to use this to bash Paterno. Some are truly outraged and disgusted by what Sandusky has alleged to have done; others seem to be feigning outrage just so they can bash Paterno.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
that is what I don't understand
From everything I have heard what got the AD and other dude in the most trouble was JoePa reporting this the second he heard about it after they had covered it up.
Unless I hear something distinctly different I feel that JoePa handled this exactly how he was suppose to and should be commended on having the guts to bring it out and stopping it.
"Sometimes the truth gets in the way of a good story" - KF
by The Bacon Explosion on Nov 7, 2011 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure I can agree with commending JoePa on this.
Yes, he took it to his superior like he was supposed to. I would think something that severe should warrant a call to the police, as well. It’s not like the guy was looking at porn on a work computer or something that is simply against university policy. This was an outright crime and a disgusting one at that.
Just my opinion, it holds no weight in the world.
"No I'm not going to 'limber up'. You ever see a lion stretching before it takes down a gazelle?"
Absolutely
He reported it to his superiors, and then just sat on his hands and did nothing, even after it was clear that the administration wasn’t following up on it properly. He didn’t try to go to the police (and if you excuse this by mentioning hearsay or defamation you have no idea how those things work and should shut up) or put pressure on the university to follow up on his report. He also continued to allowed Sandusky to associate himself with the program.. Paterno may have fulfilled his legal obligation, but he sure as hell is not in the clear morally.
That's the part that gets me
He let the guy keep showing up. The very least he should have done was said “until this matter is settled, you’re not welcome here”.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Sandusky ran an overnight Penn State football camp for children in 2009
How the hell is something like that allowed to happen?
Penn State
better start saving up for the settlements with victims that are going to come after the convictions.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Not only that,
but JoePa is the face of the university. Hell, he is Penn State. For him to blow it off and treat it like McCreary (sp?) simply witnessed someone stealing cash out of someone else’s desk or providing beer to players or whatever is unconscionable, and a huge betrayal and slap in the face to the entire PSU community. And then to claim shock at the allegations! The fucking nerve! Shock? Really? What part of what you were told was witnessed registered as no big deal so that when allegations were made official you were shocked? Even if he was told, “Yeah, I just saw Coach Sandusky doing some inappropriate stuff in the shower with some little kid,” or hell, leave out the “inappropriate stuff” clause, that’s still a HUUUUUUUGE red flag. He may not have been told, “I just saw Coach S. anally raping a young boy in the locker room shower,” but still, there is no way to bring that up without huge klaxon alarms flashing red in your brain to DO SOMETHING. And yeah, he followed “procedure” or whatever, but then what? When nothing fucking happened and it got swept under the rug and ignored? And Sandusky was still allowed in the locker room with kids, etc? I’m just at a total loss for understanding. Shock. Just shock. And really let down. He’s supposed to be one of the good ones. One of the ones we can always look to with pride as a representative and elder statesman of the sport we love so much as one who always does the right thing. Sickening.
"Pursue happiness... with diligence."
by Bucketochicken on Nov 7, 2011 5:14 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
As you know
This is my feeling X10000. It is incomprehensible that anyone with knowledge, firsthand or not, did nothing to actually ensure that this would never happen again to any other child.
The University of Iowa: the best 6 years of my life. My parents are very proud.
by HawkeyeGirleye on Nov 7, 2011 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
Couldn't agree more
Well said Bucketochicken. Beyond sickening and I just don’t see how this doesn’t end JoePa’s tenure and on the saddest of all notes. Just makes you wonder about sports figures in general at this level as well. Seems no one is immune.
Blog Bi-Polar
Last Week: We won’t win a game until Ferentz is fired.
This Week: Could we win out?
This blog is the worst thing I have ever read. Until someone says something positive about my post. Now it is the best thing I have ever read!
I know I felt super low after the Minny win, the Michigan win made me super high...
Only 3 games left so better start chugging the kool-aid. Until our next worst loss of the century of the week…
Iowa has a bi-polar fanbase
the highest highs and the lowest lows.
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Nov 7, 2011 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
Doesn't everyone?
But I suppose we aren’t as bad as Nebraska fans, who act as if they don’t act in that manner and are more mature…yet they’re totally acting like that following the Northwestern loss.
in our defense . . .
The friggin TEAM is bipolar, so why shouldn’t we be?
by Torbee on Nov 7, 2011 11:16 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Um, you have an amazing screen name?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Nov 7, 2011 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
THIS IS THE BEST BLOG EVER!
Wait, why the question mark…I love you, McCann’t?
by TangerinePony on Nov 7, 2011 11:59 AM CST up reply actions
That's actually the correct punctuation for that sentence.
Even my wife uses that inflection when she says it.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Nov 7, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
Your wife calls you McCann't?
Twitterz: @EnergizerHawk
by EnergizerHawk on Nov 7, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
Only in bed.
/cries softly into hanky.
//tells you to fuck off for making fun of my carrying a hanky
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Nov 7, 2011 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
Go to MGoBlog this week
or The Only Colors last week or Hail To the Orange the week before or Sippin’ On Purple the week before that or Corn Nation the week before that or Along the Olentangy the week before that. I’m kidding, don’t ever go to Along the Olentangy unless you’re very, very serious.
Either way, most fanbases, especially those focused enough on the topic to spend waaaay too much time commenting on sites like this (and I’m totally part of it) are going to be all over the map at times.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Nov 7, 2011 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
It's all about moderate climates.
You want to be hot and be cold for sure.
And it’s all about moderate climates.
You want to be blessed and be cursed for sure.
"Gophers are filthy digging rats"
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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Nov 7, 2011 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
I'm still tired of losing to Minnesotas, jNWs, and Iowa States
In fact, winning vs. Michigan just proves more to me that we have what it takes to beat bad teams… since we can beat a good team stacked with talent that Minnesota, jNW, Iowa State could only dream about.
What gives? Why do we do this, every damn year? We win against teams we have no right winning against, and lose to teams who otherwise have dismal, laughable seasons? I remember hearing in the post-game show Ferentz and Dolph joking about how Minnesota gave MSU a fight, and “gee, that’s not so bad a team, is it?”
I was screaming at my radio “BUT MSU STILL WON.”
"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull." - W.C. Fields
I agree with you
It is frustrating and mind-boggling.
TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin
I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! - Jim Zabel
by Bloodpunch's Barbasol on Nov 7, 2011 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
Actually, it isn't
Against inferior teams, our coaching staff goes into a shell. We take exactly zero risks.
Against equal/superior teams, our coaching staff takes risks.
It’s actually entirely logical. In most cases, when you’re the better team, your talent will win you more games than you lose. However, the opposite is true when you’re not the better team, so you have to take risks to try to tip the talent scale.
Sometimes risks pay off (see: beating Michigan by blitzing 20+ times). Sometimes they don’t, and then you get blown out.
Ferentz will never take risks when he doesn’t have to in order to win the game. In the investment world, we would call him extremely risk-adverse. I’m not saying I agree with the mentality, but I do absolutely understand where it’s coming from.
Please note that the internet does not, as of yet, have a sarcasm font.
*risk-averse
I doesn’t speel so gud
Please note that the internet does not, as of yet, have a sarcasm font.
Agreed
and from past comments Ferentz has made, he actively tries to do this. I don’t think it is a bad strategy, but it is dangerous. Sometimes, letting Minnesota stay within 12 points in the 4th quarter IS a risky situation, because then you are just an onsides kick away from MarSqueizing out an upset.
by TangerinePony on Nov 7, 2011 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
This
not taking risks really only works if the other team plays along with that strategy and plays it simple (part of our success versus Penn State can be explained like this). Where Ferentz has a huge blind spot is his seeming inability to recognize that the other guy may be willing to take a risk in a given situation, even if Ferentz would never do so, and counter it accordingly.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Except that apparently
he needs to start taking some risks if he hopes to beat IN, jNW, & MN with any regularity.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
But to be truly "risk averse"
would include the possibility of your opponent running trick plays, and preparing for them.
So we are “Risk Averse” in developing our own strategy, but something else (Naive?) in predicting Opponents.
3-0 being quite a stretch
I’d rather beat Nebby and see Sparty make a trip to Indy. I really, really do not want the new kids to have a shot at a championship this year.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
as long as it is not tO$U or Mich
Then I’m happy
Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.
by BoiseHawk on Nov 7, 2011 11:27 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I would rather prevent Sparty from going
and have Nebraska either a) get crushed again by Wisconsin or b) lose their coveted mythical MNC game against PSU. Either way, it would be lovely to see them get amped up only to fall apart. It would be even nicer to see Iowa there.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Nov 7, 2011 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
Nebraska is just as liable as Iowa to lose a game they shouldn't. And Sparty has a loooong history of that.
So despite the odds, we’re still very much in this if we beat MSU this week. Weird season.
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by therealCatnuts on Nov 7, 2011 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
You mean a typical Iowa season, right?
"No I'm not going to 'limber up'. You ever see a lion stretching before it takes down a gazelle?"
I said at the beginning of the year
that this season would resemble Iowa’s third Rose Bowl Season under Fry (1990) in that there would be a mess at the top of the league by year’s end. What I didn’t anticipate is that Iowa could very well be one of those teams.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Nov 7, 2011 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I didn't see us in the mix either.
I figured our schedule would give us the opportunity to play spoiler to MSU and Nebby, but not to control our destiny towards Indy.
"No I'm not going to 'limber up'. You ever see a lion stretching before it takes down a gazelle?"
November will be interesting
Standings
MSU 4-1
IA 3-2
NE 3-2
MI 3-2
Remaining Games
MSU IA, IN, NW
IA MSU, OMHR, NE
NE PSU, MI, IA
MI IL, NE, OSU
Sparty’s driving, but we control our own destiny. NE has the toughest schedule left and while MI is still in it mathmatically, their shot seems less realistic than ours.
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
In many ways (at least year-1)
this divisional alignment has done exactly what the baseball wildcard achieved; it’s kept fanbases (and teams) energized later in the season than they would normally be. I don’t know if I’ll love it every year but for now it’s kind of a (nailbiting) blast.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Nov 7, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
I'll take beating MSU and Nebraska
but lose to OMHR. Not sure who that puts in the title game, but I assume it won’t be either of MSU or Nebraska, and I’m fine with that.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
hmm
That puts Iowa at 8-4, 5-3. That leaves Michigan State no better than 9-3, 6-2 and Nebraska no better than 10-2, 6-2. Michigan can be no better than 10-2, 6-2 also, although there’s no way for Nebraska and Michigan to both be 10-2, 6-2 since they play each other in two weeks. So one of them will be 9-3, 5-3 at best.
I think Michigan State is still (slightly) in the best position. If you assume Iowa will drop one of their next three games, then it really doesn’t even matter if they lose to Iowa this week (if you also assume they’ll take care of business against Indiana and jNW to close the season) because they’ll be 6-2 and Iowa will be 5-3. If Nebraska also finishes 6-2, then Sparty is screwed since Nebraska has the h2h tiebreaker over them. If Michigan is the one who also finishes 6-2, then Sparty is fine since they have the h2h tiebreaker over them. Based on the results so far (and the remaining schedules for both teams), I think it’s unlikely that either Michigan or Nebraska (and probably both) won’t drop at least one more game this season.
I think 6-2 takes the Floyd division this year, primarily because I don’t see Michigan State finishing any worse than that. I could see them losing to either Iowa OR jNW… but not both.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I'll give MI one win from here on out
all three remaining teams are at least as good as Iowa, and we just beat them. Plus, I think they’ve lost the intimidation factor they used to bring into games, not that NE or OSU would be bothered much by that.
As for us, I think we’ll be praying jNW is playing out of their minds against MSU.
Of course I also spent last week waiting for Iowa to get their ass kicked. So….
"If you need a rah-rah speech at halftime, you’re playing the wrong sport." - Pat Angerer
Yeah
If we can get a cluster of teams at 5-3 and our lone remaining loss is against Purdue, we’d actually be in good shape. In situations involving 3+ teams, the first tiebreaker is record against the other tied teams — and we’d be 3-0 in that hypothetical.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Wouldn't that make Nebraska 9-3, 5-3 at best if we beat them?
They’ve lost to Wisconsin, jNW already, so an Iowa loss would put them out.
by Captain n Diet Coker on Nov 8, 2011 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
Right you are.
Too many hypotheticals.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I'm going to OMHR
so no thanks.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Nov 8, 2011 1:25 AM CST up reply actions
I wish our last home game wasn't next week
I was hoping to get a healthier Greenwood to be honorary captain before the season ended. But I understand completely why that won’t happen.
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
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by Pain in the Sash on Nov 7, 2011 11:38 AM CST reply actions
Because Dantonio would have Gholston spear-tackle him during the coin flip?
Seriously, I don’t like a lot of the other B1G teams and despise their coaches (Fitz, Tressel, RichRod while they were there), but I still think they were largely honorable men in the confines of the game. I don’t believe that about Dantonio, at all; and he is one of the few coaches in the country I can say that about.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
As a graduate of Northeast Butt State
I will not allow you to dump on my alma mater’s good name. Our proctology program is #2 to nobody. And our football team will turn the other cheek as soon as we successfully woo Pat Fitzgerald here with promises of ass sandwiches.
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Nov 7, 2011 12:11 PM CST reply actions 7 recs
That's an on-line university, isn't it?
Will they get stadium naming rights any time soon?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Nov 7, 2011 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
We asked Preparation-H
but the puckered at the thought of paying out the ol’ wazoo.
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Nov 7, 2011 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Great Game. I'm happy.
I loved the blitzing on defense but the thing that stood out to me was the poor tackling that I saw from time to time. The incident that stood out most to me and I actually started cussing and screaming at the tailgate was when Prater attempted to tackle a WR and he dove at him, hands at his side, head down like he was trying to hit him with the back of his neck. The WR easily spun out and was brought down 5 – 7 yards later by two pursuing LBs. Had Prater tackled the way he was hopefully taught in Jr. High, he could have tied up the WR and had the two LBs murder the stationary WR.
Also, I think this is just me and my sadistic sense of worry, but did anybody else feel like we pulled the win off because we were up by 8 points? To me it felt like, had we only been up by 7, Ferentz would have gone with a slightly different game plan because he was deathly afraid Michigan would convert a two point conversion for the win.
I know, I’m not right in the head, but I’m estatic we won!

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