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In 1215, King John of England was in trouble.  His feudal lords were openly looking for someone else to make a claim to his throne, going so far as to contact Prince Louis of France despite the fact that England was engaged in another thirty-year war with the French.  The barons entered London with the support of the masses, and forced John to sign the statement of liberties.  This document ensured such rights as due process for freemen (life still sucked for serfs, as documented in Monty Python and the Holy Grail) and the freedom of the Church of England from the state's control.

The charter was almost immediately rescinded by King John, who claimed it an affront to his dignity and his power claimed directly from God.  That, of course, meant civil war.  King John died of dysentery during the war, vaulting his nine-year old son Henry to the throne.  When Henry reached the age of eighteen and could actually do stuff, he reaffirmed the charter, and Magna Carta was law.  It later became the basis of the rights of the subjects of the world's largest empire and, though it has largely been supplanted by later, more expansive, laws passed by the British Parliament, the rights it created have never been revoked or overturned.  Magna Carta remains the most famous list of the rights of man.


Since gaining its independence from England in 1960, Nigeria has been a mess.  Originally founded as a parliamentary democracy, Nigeria's first republic lasted for less than three years before the prime minister and governors were assassinated by the military.  Six months later, those military leaders were killed by a different set of generals, sparking a three-year civil war.  Two more military coups later, a second constitutional republic was founded.

That republic lasted for five whole years before the military again overthrew the government, placing a Supreme Military Counsel in power.  Two years later, the SMC's reign was ended in another military coup by General Ibrahim Babangida, who head faked toward human rights and pseudo-democracy.  He initially promised a return to democracy in five years.  Babangida later extended that to eight years and repeatedly cancelled and voided elections under allegations of fraud.  Presidential elections were held in 1993, but the results were again annulled by Babangida.  Eventually, the General was ousted, but the transitional republic lasted only a couple of months before the military again took control.  While democratic government was restored in 1999, there have still been repeated assassinations and fraudulent elections.  Human rights are still ignored.  Government strongmen still hold virtually all power in the country.  Every person to take control of the country since the late 70's has promised increased freedoms for Nigerian citizens, but the government always reverts to the same corrupt dictatorship.

Star-divide

If you were putting odds on which team in the Iowa-Penn State game would be the subject of a post about banana republics and the rights of the people in a dictatorship, PSU would be an overwhelming favorite.  There isn't another program in the country where an aging autocrat has held power for 50+ years and is so brazen in his attempts to both hold that power and effect a passing of the throne to his son.  During the podcast, Chris talked about the bizarre game being played by Nittany Lion fans during televised games, where they look for clear pictures of their head coach in the booth and speculate on his current condition.  Paterno won't let players transfer or coaches leave for other jobs, denies all criticism with a variation of  "everything is fine, nothing to see here", and protects information with an iron grip.  He's essentially a sash and a funny hat away from calling himself Generalissimo.

This isn't about Penn State, though, because this -- like all games involving Kirk Ferentz and Joe Paterno -- doesn't come down to what Penn State will do (or what they have always done, Spread HD or not).  This is about Iowa's philosophy, and the potential paradigm shift occurring within the program (especially on offense), and whether the Pitt comeback was Magna Carta or the Third Republic of Nigeria.  Iowa has shown the, for lack of a better term, "old Iowa" this year, and it wasn't pretty: Loss to Iowa State, 24-7 shellacking through most of the first three quarters at home against Pitt.  It has since shown "new Iowa": Spread formations (though not a spread offense, and don't mistake one for the other) with the quarterback in the shotgun without a huddle and three or four receivers and an increasing level of confidence in attacking the opponents' safeties on deep routes.  "New Iowa" came back in 15 minutes to beat Pitt.  "New Iowa" hung 28 points on Louisiana-Monroe before the Warhawks knew what had happened.  "New Iowa" looks promising.

Kirk Ferentz has met that modest success with a disconcerting sense of skepticism and sarcasm.  Remember, this is the same Kirk Ferentz who told a reporter last season that there wasn't a no-huddle offense in the playbook because "we don't do that kind of thing here."  When asked about whether the no-huddle would stay after its success against Pitt, Ferentz said "well, that's what you guys want, right?"  He said last Thursday that the Hawkeyes had spent the bye week installing their new system:

I think we'll probably go about 50 percent blitz the rest of theseason, 100 percent no-huddle. That's about what we have come up with. That's what we have come up with over the last couple of days here.  Other than that, we have been playing cards and some of the guys have been out golfing and stuff like that.

Ferentz isn't Louis CK, to be sure, but that is as big a joke as you'll ever hear him tell.  He doesn't like this newfangled no-huddle (both he and Norm Parker have repeatedly made the "you know, a three-and-out in a no-huddle doesn't help your defense" warnings for three weeks, too).  

The question is, will Ferentz bite his tongue, accede to the demands of his offensive coordinator, his quarterback, and his fans, and let the offensive progression continue, or will he revert back to the same safe, authoritarian control of the past?  Penn State, more than any team on Iowa's schedule, could allow for the old Iowa gameplan to work.  Their offense is a mess and their defense is dangerous, having generated eleven turnovers in five games.  In the past, this would be a game like 2009 Minnesota, where Iowa would get up by two scores and bleed the clock dry on the back of its defense and the general ineptitude of its opponent.  It's a recipe for "win close or lose closer" and we all know how those games go (though, to be fair, it's crushed Penn State in the past decade).  He also has a very young team preparing not just for this week but for two months in the Big Ten, with his biggest nemesis only a week away.  The shell might make sense this week, but I think we can all agree it doesn't in the future.

Ferentz has made his gesture toward openness and modernity the last two weeks.  The question now becomes whether this was a watershed moment for Iowa's football identity or a fleeting, momentary response to increased external pressure.  That becomes the story of the Penn State game:  Whether the last two games were a head fake or the real thing.  Whether Iowa is going to really do whatever is necessary to win in 2011 and beyond or whether we're willing to forego higher risks and higher rewards to keep one foot in the one-possession, cloud of dust, "need to execute a little better" past.  Whether the offense we saw in the last game and a half is really Magna Carta or whether it's just a fleeting moment of democracy before the military takes over again.

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A battle for the soul of Iowa football? Or a battle for Ferentz's football soul?

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

"I love a woman with a big a$$ who can beat me at arm wrestling." ~ Danny Aiello.

by Blackheartnopants on Oct 7, 2011 1:07 PM CDT reply actions  

lol.....nice

impossible is nothing

by RGates on Oct 7, 2011 2:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Why, Jacobi's the spitting image of the piss boy!

"I've never seen a supernova, but if it's anything like my old Chevy Nova it'll light up the night sky." - Philip J. Fry

by HawkOnRails on Oct 8, 2011 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's good to be the king!

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 8, 2011 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought HFMR's post was incredible. Now we're just showing off.

Perhaps my best years are gone... but I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.

by jebushchrist on Oct 7, 2011 1:16 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

There is some amazing content today

Not many blogs can pull of a QB attach to the ass of another QB and Magna Carta on back to back posts.

I tip my hat to you fine folks. Keep up the good work!

"If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be research." - Albert Einstein

"Consider them rolled." - Jim Delany

by 6 seconds of hell on Oct 7, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Excellent writing, and interesting analogy

Lotta history nerds on this site, I love that Vint is similarly inclined and willing to throw down the gauntlet in such dramatic fashion.

I don’t personally think our old offense was so bad as to be compared to the dark ages or the democratic republics of recent Africa, but it’s certainly a very fun way to go about discussing whether we go back to it or move forward with the “New Iowa” offense.

I guess in the end, I’m a Tory (or whatever is the correct word period-wise). God and King! Power running game and no blitzing!

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Oct 7, 2011 1:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh, it's completely over the top. Check the tags.

and thanks.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Oct 7, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, love the tag. Hadn't seen that.

I really do need to check the tags more often, you guys have been masterful with them lately

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Oct 7, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Angevin would be the correct term

Or at least as close as one could find

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 7, 2011 4:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I know a thing or two about Angry Vint

But I know not of this “Angevin”

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Oct 7, 2011 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

At the risk of going full-Hamsterdam

“Angevin” is the more precise way of referring to Henry II and his immediate descendants. It actually derives from Henry’s father, Geoffrey of Anjou, and describes the “empire” Geoffrey, and especially Henry claimed. Though the line is usually referred to as the “Plantagenent” dynasty, its more proper reference would be Angevin, derived from the familial base of Anjou (Geoffrey was first Court of Anjou, before all other titles, and there weren’t really surnames at the time). Thus, to be a partisan of John, one would be pro-Angevin, largely because by 1215 none of his brothers had survived leaving him as the sole heir of Henry II.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 7, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hamdam is great and all

but I love that one can read a post about this weekend’s game, and in doing so learn a lot about history.

"TAYLOR MARTINEZ IS AIDS ON TWO FEET"
-@DanBeebe

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Oct 8, 2011 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sir Vint

Will there be a test at the end of your course?

Its OK, I wear protection when visiting this site.

by Caliowan on Oct 7, 2011 1:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed.

Bradley, LJ, etc. are grown men. If they want to leave, they’re going to leave.

by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 7, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

I’m not sure what’s more disappointing; the fact that Patrick of all people was making these assertions or the fact that only three Penn State fans have so far complained about them. But we already know that actual proof isn’t always required from our fanbase, I guess, when our team loses a game and struggles against bad teams.

I really think that some of what Patrick said was not well thought out at all and rather unbecoming of a front page post on this blog. And I’m an expert on not thinking before I write, so there you go.

"Who do you think you are? You’re the son-of-a-bitch that sat at that desk over there and fired Johnny Cash. Let it go down in history that you’re the dumbest son-of-a-bitch I’ve ever met." - Merle Haggard

by ReadingRambler on Oct 7, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

And I think this is worth noting:

Bradley, according to what I’ve read, was the number one candidate at Temple for everyone except Katz. It’s just happens that Katz is both really influential and in love with Steve Addazio. How one falls in love with Captain Dive, I don’t know.

"Who do you think you are? You’re the son-of-a-bitch that sat at that desk over there and fired Johnny Cash. Let it go down in history that you’re the dumbest son-of-a-bitch I’ve ever met." - Merle Haggard

by ReadingRambler on Oct 7, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

I’m not going to pretend to know your program more than you do, and if Joe isn’t holding onto his job for the sake of the job itself despite quite clearly not being able to handle the physical rigors of it like he did only a few years ago, so be it. If he’s not campaigning to get JayPa the gig, fine, even though I’m far from the only person to believe that is the case (and I sincerely do).

But the mere nature of the scholarship commitment means that you let that kid go where he wants to go, regardless of “complicated family issues”. You give him a one-year commitment, he played his one year, he didn’t like it, he wanted to go somewhere else. You grant the release. I don’t care if he’s the only quarterback on your roster, you grant the release. He is not your employee. He is certainly not your serf. Let him go, Joe.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Oct 7, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know you're far from the only one, but

Grovich, Kevin, and others think that because 1) that was the crazy rumor of the Dark Years that they never quite let go of and 2) because Joe will make remarks in the media after certain decisions (going for it on 4th against Temple, which was the right call, and apparently JayPa was against it but Joe said afterward that Jay made that call, or pulling McGloin in the Outback Bowl, which didn’t happen, apparently at Jay’s behest, but seems like the right call now, and Joe making remarks that Jay tried to convince him to play Bolden) putting Jay on the right side. They interpret that as Joe trying to make Jay look smart, and therefore Joe trying to set up Jay to get the job. Such thinking requires 2 assumptions that are, at the least, stretches: 1)That Joe actually wants Jay to get the job, in spite of a lack of any other evidence whatsoever, and in contrast to Joe’s opposition to hiring Jay when the job opened up some years back, mainly in anticipation of things exactly like this and 2) That Joe would rather an apparently poor decision making JayPa gets the job than somebody else. Joe has invested a great deal in PSU football, and I suspect that when he does hand the reigns off, he wants to hand them off to somebody competent.

What do I make of it? I don’t know. I don’t know either Joe or Jay personally. But I suspect it’s more likely a way of calling out Jay in the media and basically saying something to the effect of “I VALUE YOUR OPINION AS MUCH AS I DO THE STAPLER, YOU NINNY.”

As for Bolden, it was difficult to discern what he wanted, but it was easy to discern that transferring probably wasn’t in his best interest. His batshit crazy dad wanted him to leave after the Outback Bowl. His (divorced) mom virtually begged Joe not to let him. By all accounts, Bolden didn’t really have a plan as to what he wanted to do after being granted a release. So Joe had a decision: do I side with the crazy guy when there’s absolutely no plan for Robert Jr., or do we ride this thing out another year and at least Robert is playing football and competing and getting his education?

And as far as giving him a “one-year commitment” goes, that’s technically true, but not so much in practice in the B1G. PSU, and B1G schools in general, don’t oversign. Penn State, year after year, has one of the best graduation rates in college football. Just because the NCAA prohibits schools from offering a scholarship of more than 1 year (the dumbest rule they have. you want to end oversigning? allow schools to give multi-year scholarships) doesn’t mean Penn State, or any kid who has done his homework who signs with PSU, views it as a one-year commitment.

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever
Except Saturday
Beat Iowa

by ckmneon on Oct 7, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

"and I suspect that when he does hand the reigns off, he wants to hand them off to somebody competent."

I have a three-ish year old secret fear that the someone will be Ferentz. After JoePa, hd is the elder statesman of the Big Ten; he has demonstrated the ability to build for the long term; he is a Pennsylvania boy himself; and he is the coach who has beat JoePa more than any other (ok, tied with Carr right now).

Obviously this becomes less likely with each year Ferentz gets closer to retirement, and I believe in my heart of hearts he intends to finish his career at Iowa, but I fear the prospect of Ferentz-to-PSU far more than Ferentz-to-NFL.

by Third Generation Hawk on Oct 8, 2011 3:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ferentz is a name that used to frequently pop up in discussions

He’s not completely off the radar, but I don’t think he’s in the top 5 anymore.

If Joe had a heart attack immediately following the season, and PSU had to get a new HC, the top 3 are probably (in no order) current DC Tom Bradley, former PSU TE and current Miami HC Al Golden, and Urban Meyer. Outside of them, current WR’s coach Mike McQueary, Bill Cowher (he and PSU AD Tim Curley are apparently BFFs), Colts HC Jim Caldwell, former Saints HC and current Redskins DC Jim Haslett, and Rutgers HC Greg Schiano are all names that come up. And PSU fans have a justifiable affection for Coastal Carolina HC David Bennett.

I’d love to have Ferentz, but I don’t really know where he ranks on that list in terms of my preferences. Probably top 4. For the PSU administration, I suspect he’s closer to the bottom, but definitely on the list.

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever
Except Saturday
Beat Iowa

by ckmneon on Oct 8, 2011 6:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

JoePa is just holding out for that long-awaited AD job

once Curley retires.

"TAYLOR MARTINEZ IS AIDS ON TWO FEET"
-@DanBeebe

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Oct 8, 2011 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

He had it before

He was encouraged to give it up once his plans for the Eastern Conference fell apart and PSU got a mild black eye in the media for trying to tear apart the Big East. Joe has always maintained that he only wanted to make it a football league, and really only for the sake of TV scheduling (I tend to believe him), but the smaller, non-football Big East schools were scared to death of it anyway (probably rightfully so), and once they caught wind of it, cried foul to the media so much that the whole thing died.

Pitt fans will tell you that’s why PSU doesn’t play Pitt anymore: Joe holds Pitt responsible for tearing apart his league and putting PSU in danger of irrelevancy, and so he enjoys watching Pitt’s monetary downfall. There’s probably a little truth to that, but that ignores a lot of things.

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever
Except Saturday
Beat Iowa

by ckmneon on Oct 8, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow. I honestly had no idea.

Also, I’m glad everything turned out for the best, with Penn State in a real football league, and Pitt giving up 4 quarter comebacks to your conference mates.

"TAYLOR MARTINEZ IS AIDS ON TWO FEET"
-@DanBeebe

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Oct 8, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Everybody hates Pitt

Seriously. They never really felt welcome in the Big East, and how now stabbed us in the back.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 8, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pitt imagines themselves to be a mid-level state school

With the exception of West Virginia, the Big East is made almost entirely of religiously affiliated schools in “first cities” and state schools in second cities. While Pitt fit that mold perfectly, they imagine themselves to be more like NC State or Va Tech than WVU or Rutgers. They are wrong, and like everything else Pitt has done since 48-14, this will backfire in hilarious fashion, but they’re doing it anyway.

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever
Except Saturday
Beat Iowa

by ckmneon on Oct 8, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I just more hate them for the complete thuggish nature of basketball they bring to the table

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 8, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

ck

You have an email address you can share?

"Who do you think you are? You’re the son-of-a-bitch that sat at that desk over there and fired Johnny Cash. Let it go down in history that you’re the dumbest son-of-a-bitch I’ve ever met." - Merle Haggard

by ReadingRambler on Oct 7, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel like I have time-travelled

am I am woozy from the trip. That telephone booth gets crowded, however, it was a good analogy between the Banana Republics and the Iowa offense. I too am wondering if KF will keep with the no-huddle, spread out offense. It has been very fun watching this team hit on all cylinders, offensively.

I also think that Iowa needs to keep this offense for the sake of the defense, as it seems to spark the defense and they play much better when the offense is moving the ball down the field and scoring points. We need to protect the “Iowa Magna Carta”.

“Iowa Magna Carta” has a nice ring to it for the new name of the Iowa offense scheme.

All my good friends at BHGP helpled pick this most awesome name!

TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin
I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! - Jim Zabel

by Bloodpunch's Barbasol on Oct 7, 2011 1:38 PM CDT reply actions  

I think we see less of it this week.

1) to keep the Big Ten guessing
and 2) because if we don’t drive all the way down the field every time, the D is gonna get gassed quick
oh, and 3) cause we don’t want to run out of steam half way through the Big Ten season due to everyone sprinting around through the first three or four Big Ten games… you gotta have something left for the second half of the conference which our slow-down offense has traditionally helped with

"TAYLOR MARTINEZ IS AIDS ON TWO FEET"
-@DanBeebe

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Oct 7, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dont think KF wants to give Wizgerald a lot of tape to watch of his secret weapon.

I’m holding out cautious hope for a couple of strategically-timed no-huddle possessions. Probably once in the first quarter, hoping to get an early lead and get the crowd sitting on their hands. And maybe once or twice more.

I want the team to keep trying to do both things: spice up life with the no-huddle shotgun and wear down defenses with the running game. I’m fine if we see mostly the latter tomorrow, but throw a dash of pepper on them hard-boiled eggs pleaz.

by EastLosRandy on Oct 7, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well written

And I completely agree with your thoughts about “the shell making sense this week”. I’ve been thinking along the same lines leading up to this game. With Penn State’s offense being a bit sluggish I can see this being a similar game to what we’ve seen in the past with this matchup. I won’t be shocked to see a regression to the more traditional Iowa style considering the opponent. Let’s just hope we don’t get down two or three scores and have our hand forced again.

Not going to take too much away from this week’s game, I imagine. Starting next week it will be very interesting to see how Iowa comes out…particularly if Persa is playing and does Persa things to us.

Or maybe we’ll just come out guns a blazin’ right off the bat this week and if that is the case, a definite shift in style has been acknowledged by the staff.

by Skillet13 on Oct 7, 2011 1:39 PM CDT reply actions  

We all expect Fitz’s tears (spit, whatever) will work their Wizard magic on Persa’s tendons, and he’ll be 110% next week.

by txhawkeye on Oct 7, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really don't want to know which of his bodily fluids

Fitz is rubbing down Persa with under the guise that it is a pain elixir

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 7, 2011 4:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I very consciously

refrained from thinking too much about that. It’s just that I fully expect him to fly all around the field next week, completely mobile, until their last offensive play, when he hurts himself again.

by txhawkeye on Oct 7, 2011 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm glad someone brought this up.

I’ve been wanting to create a post comparing Paterno with Vichy France head of state Philippe Petain. The problem lies in comparing a respected head coach with a Nazi collaborationist. You just can’t do it without sounding ridiculous or misguided.

The main point is this: 84 year old people should not be in positions of power.

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by J.Schnauzer on Oct 7, 2011 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I remember watching Chris Farley portraying Hank Williams Jr. on SNL weeks before Farley died.

Listening to HW2 it appears that life has now imitated art.

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by J.Schnauzer on Oct 7, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

84 year old people should not be in positions of power.

Why? Just because most 84 year old people aren’t in very good shape, mentally and physically, doesn’t mean you can just make statements like this without some kind of justification.

"Who do you think you are? You’re the son-of-a-bitch that sat at that desk over there and fired Johnny Cash. Let it go down in history that you’re the dumbest son-of-a-bitch I’ve ever met." - Merle Haggard

by ReadingRambler on Oct 7, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

That's the problem.

My claim is indeed unjustified, and there are examples of 84 year olds who are highly successful. A more nuanced answer would require a full article. The issue is that when you compare celebrated figures that embody the character and spirit of their team/nation, analyze their management styles and beliefs at eighty-four, and then note that one of those figures was a Nazi collaborationist you imply the other is somehow a Nazi. Obviously this is completely untrue, but I know enough about the internet to know it’s impossible to write something like this without someone misinterpreting it.

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by J.Schnauzer on Oct 7, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I plan to live until I'm at least 90 years old.

STOP CALLING ME A FUTURE NAZI

"TAYLOR MARTINEZ IS AIDS ON TWO FEET"
-@DanBeebe

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Oct 7, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought the comparison was apt

because the both fought, heroically, in the Great War (read: WWI)

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 7, 2011 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

The idea of "new Iowa" actually being the Iowa of the future has me wondering.

How does JVB’s QB style translate to Rudock? It would seem that a wide-open no-huddle type offense is better suited to AJ Derby than the traditional pro-style offense. Is Rudock in the same boat, and if so, I am curious to see if KF is able to swallow his pride for that long while we witness a more significant change than initially imagined. If Rudock is also a no-huddle QB then I’m not sure I’ll know how to cope while watching Iowa run this type of offense in 5 years.

by The Mexican't on Oct 7, 2011 1:51 PM CDT reply actions  

I've always been a "defense wins championship" type of guy,

but with this rebuilding/young defense we’re fielding I absolutely expect or demand KF to put up as many points as possible. At least I’ll be confident in the fact the KF is doing everything in his power to win, evolving and adapting to our strengths and weaknesses. Losing with a ‘balls to the wall" attitude won’t hurt so bad and at the least it’ll be much more enjoyable to watch.

All these close wins/loses as a result of conservative play is no good for my blood pressure.

by IAinCA on Oct 7, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Kirk is a practical man

If it works, he will accept it, but may never embrace it.

What’s interesting about this offense is that I think it can provide some of the same benefits of Iowa’s traditional “ground n pound” style. This offense can kill clock, roll up yards, first downs and points as well as limit turnovers if executed properly. If KOK and VDB and the Three Amigos (the WRs) can do this, Kirk may be more of an enthusiast.

I guess my view comes down to my belief that Kirk is stubborn but more pragmatic than stubborn.

Whatever happens, this has the makings of a fascinating and transformative season for Iowa football.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

"I love a woman with a big a$$ who can beat me at arm wrestling." ~ Danny Aiello.

by Blackheartnopants on Oct 7, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jeepus

There have been a lot of “cans”, “could bees” and “maybes” in some of my recent posts. I feel like my credibility is only just a bit more than the “Ancient Aliens” guy.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

"I love a woman with a big a$$ who can beat me at arm wrestling." ~ Danny Aiello.

by Blackheartnopants on Oct 7, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure

If I’m comfortable with the mindset developing that KF is to blame for our past offensive issues and all he has to do is say the word for it to change. I don’t care if this is in fact true or not. I just don’t like it. And here is my reasoning:

"If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be research." - Albert Einstein

"Consider them rolled." - Jim Delany

by 6 seconds of hell on Oct 7, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think that

KF will always go with the best QB he has and will make adjustments as necessary. He’s mentioned adjustments Iowa made to exploit Brad Banks’ strengths. As far as Derby vs. Rudock — I expect that KF will play the QB he thinks gives Iowa the best chance of winning.

He died for our sins.

by Jesus-H-ARob on Oct 7, 2011 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ruddock SAID that he came to Iowa to play pro style.

But I guess out no-huddle is still technically a pro-style, so I don’t know why I would worry.

/crosses fingers

"TAYLOR MARTINEZ IS AIDS ON TWO FEET"
-@DanBeebe

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Oct 8, 2011 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rudock also played out of the shotgun a lot in high school

so it’s not like he would be uncomfortable back there.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 8, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

JoePa wears the Gaddafi "Van Dyke" very well.

Is he going back to college with Tommy Lee?

"TAYLOR MARTINEZ IS AIDS ON TWO FEET"
-@DanBeebe

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Oct 7, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it possible to incorporate this no huddle pass happy offense into KF's ball control manball gameplan?

Will he use it to try and grab the lead and then up by 2 scores switch into more of a ground and pound ball control, keep Penn St off the field type of thing?

How is it spread formations but not the spread? Is there a team that uses this similar type of offense that would be familiar? I know that Mike Leach’s air raid offense was often able to put together long time consuming drives without much running. Are what we trying similar?

by HawkeyeRecon on Oct 7, 2011 2:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Punishment: 2 hours of BHGP community service

Putting Ponder in isn't the question, it's the answer.
SKOL!!!

by DM_Purp on Oct 7, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

They really are enormous

Size 16. Ladies…

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Oct 7, 2011 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Quit wearing high heels and your feet wouldn't hurt.

"West Texas seems to be full of fake boobs providing a comfortable shade for well-developed pot bellies" - Lycurgus (06/24/2011)

by BStylin Hawkye on Oct 7, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know what they say about a guy with big feet..

That’s right…big socks.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

"I love a woman with a big a$$ who can beat me at arm wrestling." ~ Danny Aiello.

by Blackheartnopants on Oct 7, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

More fungus.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Oct 7, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

We've met?

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 8, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Paterno won’t let players transfer or coaches leave for other jobs

This is an extremely unfair and inaccurate statement, and it’s offered without any citation or explanation at all. I’m disappointed you marred an otherwise very nice post with this completely unjustified assertion. I get enough unjustified assertions from Penn State fans. I give you the benefit of the doubt because you’ve proven yourself to be a very reasonable fellow in 95%+ of situations.

"Who do you think you are? You’re the son-of-a-bitch that sat at that desk over there and fired Johnny Cash. Let it go down in history that you’re the dumbest son-of-a-bitch I’ve ever met." - Merle Haggard

by ReadingRambler on Oct 7, 2011 2:47 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't want to have to be the one to do this.

But that statement is bad.

"Who do you think you are? You’re the son-of-a-bitch that sat at that desk over there and fired Johnny Cash. Let it go down in history that you’re the dumbest son-of-a-bitch I’ve ever met." - Merle Haggard

by ReadingRambler on Oct 7, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll respond (and if I'm wrong, Vint can certainly correct me)

I think it was more of a hit tip to the JoePa of BHGP, rather than the ACTUAL JoePa. While our characterization of JoePa isn’t at all accurate (I highly doubt he’s actually a brain-eating zombie that loves to disparage the Irish), that’s what we think of when we read about him on this here site.

Please note that the internet does not, as of yet, have a sarcasm font.

by benvious on Oct 7, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I tend to agree

In a piece where we are comparing football teams to Nigeria’s governing history, its hard to say how serious the characterizations are. Before reading the comments, I took it as taking some jabs at this week’s opponent, saying “I know you all think this post is about Penn State, and here are some reasons that analogy might work, but its actually about Iowa’s offense.”

by kythom on Oct 7, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope you'll be removing exaggeration and hyperbole from your rhetorical bag of tricks in all future comments, Rambler.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 7, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please explain what was hyperbolic about my comment.

Vint made quite hard statements about a great man and he didn’t offer any proof. So, with all due respect, I think you’re pegging the wrong person with exaggeration and hyperbole.

"Who do you think you are? You’re the son-of-a-bitch that sat at that desk over there and fired Johnny Cash. Let it go down in history that you’re the dumbest son-of-a-bitch I’ve ever met." - Merle Haggard

by ReadingRambler on Oct 7, 2011 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I meant your propensity to engage in hyperbole and exaggeration in your comments.

Not necessarily that comment in specific.

Pat also compared Iowa’s offense to the Magna Carta; I don’t think it’s wise to take everything so literally.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 7, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now I'm all messed up

Does tomorrow’s game plan have something to do with the Magna Carta or not?

Putting Ponder in isn't the question, it's the answer.
SKOL!!!

by DM_Purp on Oct 8, 2011 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

In 1215, King John of England was in trouble. . . . This document ensured such rights as . . . the freedom of the Church of England from the state’s control.

The Church of England wasn’t quiiiiite around yet in 1215. (Although, technically, the Magna Carta did ensure some rights for CoE when it eventually came into being.
/pedantic quibbling

by The Final Gun on Oct 7, 2011 2:58 PM CDT reply actions  

I concur, and this is a good point.

CoE was Henry Ocho’s great idea, cuz the Pope wouldn’t let him stop being married to his daughter-having first wife.

by EastLosRandy on Oct 7, 2011 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not really

Obviously, the “Church of England” as a fully independent institution didn’t come about until Henry VIII – well, Edward VI really – but “the Church of England” as an idea had existed for much longer. The Church in England (as we’ll refer to the pre-Protestant break Church) had been rather independent for most of the Norman period. Henry II, John’s father, had been able to extract numerous concessions from the popes that, in effect, made him, not the pope, de facto head of the Church in England, and made the Church rather independent. It was John, ironically, that brought the Church in England back into the more direct Vatican fold when, anticipating some of what was to happen, he placed the Church in England in a sort of receivership of the pope. When he, John, signed the first Magna Carta, it was declared null and void by the pope because it would have severely limited his, the pope’s, power and prerogatives over the Church in England, something that many historians think was John’s intention all along. Regardless, before and certainly after John, the Church in England operated and existed rather independent of the control of the pope/Curia, a fact that would entice many other secular rulers to attempt to emulate.

/went full-Amsterdam’d

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 7, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

But then Iowa was the banana republic, and I was disappointed. But only a little.

by kythom on Oct 7, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Except

That guy was democratically elected multiple times with international election observers on the ground.

by EastLosRandy on Oct 7, 2011 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

In reality..

JoePa has been know to chill at State College record stores wearing a “Che wears Che” shirt, not because he supports his revolutionary ideas, but appreciates the irony.

by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 7, 2011 3:19 PM CDT reply actions  

With deep apologies to The Beetles


Sources tell me this is the line of succession.

by kythom on Oct 7, 2011 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Google searching "medieval Anglo-Saxon and post-colonial sub-Sahara West African political theory"

is how I found this place so long ago.

"TAYLOR MARTINEZ IS AIDS ON TWO FEET"
-@DanBeebe

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Oct 8, 2011 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

i am watching the wizgerald on BTN

noticing the poster behind him
B1G Champions
1903, 1926, 1930,1931
shit thats a long time ago

Long Live the Pellican Whore - like FOREVER

by OhioHawk on Oct 7, 2011 6:08 PM CDT reply actions  

We have to cling to something.

/nobowlwinsince’49
//ohshitwewontheB1G’95’96’00
///fuckwestillhaven’twonabowl

by MNWildcat on Oct 7, 2011 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

1903

JoePa remembers it fondly. The shit he pulled sophomore year…

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 7, 2011 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

The roots of democratic England

run deeper, and I prefer the stunning, shocking long reach of the English yeomen and their long bows at Azincourt. No other society on earth permitted a commoner to develop the muscle and skill to kill at 100 meters. By 1215 Yeoman England could demand the Magna Carta; they were not to be trifled with. Just the act of pulling the long bow required a lifetime of peculiar physical training, training the aristocracy, in England or its enemy France (in their fancy blue and white), would undertake. After a wearisome, frightening journey, perhaps foolishly undertaken, exhausted by rain, mud, dysentery, and a ridiculous 15-mile unnecessary backup at Mifflinburg on I-80, the outmanned and underfunded yeoman English confronted a noble horde of the privileged, glorious, rich French: an army 10x their size, laden with every advantage, prone to annoying RAWR sounds as they descended to the contest. Then they slaughtered them. Iowa, 24-9.

Actually, I don’t think Ferentz controls this decision, in respect of the no-huddle, three-wide offense. VDB does — in the sense that what Ferentz cares about is what any NFL coach cares about: minimizing turnovers. The game here is between VDB and the PSU safeties. We forget that VDB has only started 6 games, and a few of them (Minnesota, Tennessee Tech, ULM) don’t really count. Sure, he has one INT this year, but we’re playing a real defense today; he could have 3 or 4.

Iowa always goes over the top and takes its shots; the QB this year is more comfortable doing this off the shotgun, the QB the last few years preferred throwing on the move, on play-action. But we always take the shots, because it’s the only way to keep the safeties out of the box, and get numbers on the core inside and stretch zone runs.

So I think Iowa always adjusts its O to its QB’s skills, and we’re doing it now. And it’s notable that, according to Ferentz, in-season the only guy he is talking to (and he says he talks to him twice a week), is the TE coach for the Patriots. I am of the opinion that VDB is a better pure passer than Wilson, and if he’s not, I think we’re going to pretend anyway that he is. Brad Banks was not running the same offense that Stanzi ran, or what we saw in the 18 minutes of hell dropped on Pitt. I actually think that the no-huddle three-wide is the rule, for Iowa, in the sense that the coaches each year significantly adjust the passing game to reflect the attributes of that year’s QB. All of us are still reacting to the horror that was JC6’s career, when there was no passing game. But that was the exception, not the rule. We should get over it.

I hope we have some play-action, though, out of the old 2-2 formation, from which we ran more than 80% of the time last year. I’d like to see Canzeri get some time, but if we just default to the run out of that formation, he’ll get killed. (Treating this defense today like it’s Western Michigan would not be smart. Treating Western Michigan like Western Michigan wasn’t too smart.) And he’s probably too small and young to be of much help blocking when we are three-wide.

We play tackle football.

by Bellanca on Oct 8, 2011 5:14 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Hope you enjoyed the backup.

PennDOT represent.

"Who do you think you are? You’re the son-of-a-bitch that sat at that desk over there and fired Johnny Cash. Let it go down in history that you’re the dumbest son-of-a-bitch I’ve ever met." - Merle Haggard

by ReadingRambler on Oct 9, 2011 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you see what Ed Podolak said?

On Hawk Central he said the shotgun will work great this year because we have a premier passer unlike any we’ve had in the program recently. I thought that was pretty high praise for JVD coming from Eddie.

by docted on Oct 8, 2011 8:36 AM CDT reply actions  

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