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VIDEO: A Walk Down Iowa-Penn State Memory Lane (Part 2)

Today, we take a trip through some more modern Iowa-Penn State games.  All videos are, once again, courtesy of the incomparable Hawkeye Historian, a true YouTube treasure.

First up, a little game we like to call "6-4":

-- MATT ROTH
-- You can run (slowly) Sam Brownlee, but you cannot hide.  Sooner or later AIRBHG will find you.
-- Oh, David Bradley.  You and your safeties against Penn State.
-- Zach Mills was a very generous host to the visiting Iowa footballers.
-- Matt Roth in 2004 was a beast.
-- JOHN L. SMITH!  MISS U, JOHN L.!
-- A blocked punt too?  Good grief, Bradley.
-- 1st and goal and Penn State comes away with... no points.  It was that kind of game for both offenses.
-- Ah, the beloved Eff You safety.  I always forget that it came with EIGHT MINUTES LEFT IN THE GAME.  Truly, Ferentz did not give a fuck about Penn State's offense that day.
-- I think Pam Ward and Mike Tomczak were about to come to blows when discussing the decision to take that safety.
-- Good god, Penn State threw a lot of interceptions in this game.
-- Aaron Mickens: offensive superstar.  (By the standards of this game.)
-- Going for it on 4th and 2 to ice the game?  That's pretty interesting -- and not the typical move you'd expect out of Ferentz.  A field goal pushes the score to 9-4,  which means a field goal can no longer beat you... but also means that you have to give the ball back to Penn State.  

Star-divide

And now we head back to 2001, where we find Iowa and Penn State like two ships passing in the night, going opposite directions:

-- KAHLIL "THE THRILL" HILL!
-- Uni nerd tidbit: this was the last year that Iowa had Reebok uniforms; they switched to Nike in 2002.
-- Hill again!  The beloved bubble screen!
-- I think Robbie Gould might have been the best player on that Penn State team.
-- Dallas Clark, doin' Dallas Clark things.
-- Ladell Betts is truly one of the most underappreciated Hawkeyes of the Ferentz Era; he had the misfortune to play on some of the worst Iowa teams in the last half-century, but still managed to put up solid numbers.  Put him on almost any of the post-2001 Iowa teams and he would have been a superstar.
-- Ah, the safety.  Penn State's scoring play of choice against Iowa.
-- I think that UI ad gave me whiplash. 
-- BOB BOB BOB BOB BOB
-- Larry Johnson was on the punt block team?  Okay then.

And now we move a year forward to 2002:

-- Penn State still can't cover Dallas Clark.  Good to know some things never change.
-- Freddie Russell displaying the shiftiness that made us all love him back in 2002 and 2003.
-- Larry Johnson fumbles?  Well, that wasn't a precursor to his NFL career or anything...
-- KEVIN WORTHY IS NOT AMUSED BY YOUR TRICK PLAYS, PENN STATE.
-- EDDIE MOTHERFUCKING HINKEL! asljhsdafjadsk;ulre That catch is still ridiculous.
-- Iowa almost blew a 23-0 lead in this game.  And a 35-13 lead.  Uggggghhhhh.
-- Mind you, that's the sort of thing that can happen when you turn the ball over in the red zone like Iowa did in the second half.
-- I believe Nate Kaeding had his leg surgically replaced with a howitzer prior to the 2002 season.  (Shhh.)
-- Man, Jovon Johnson didn't have a prayer against that stiffarm from Larry Johnson on that screen pass.
-- Hey, back when Iowa could win overtime games!
-- JoePa sprinting after the ref will never, ever, ever stop being funny.

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That 2004 game is one of the most memorable of my time at Iowa

Antwan Allen was outstanding that game, as was Matt Roth.

I miss Dallas Clark.

 KOK, you Sir are still a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, covered in chocolate sauce.

by Hawkeyes on Oct 6, 2011 9:26 AM CDT reply actions  

I had a love/hate relationship with Antwan

during his Hawkeye career. Really aggressive run stopper, but got burnt quite a bit.

And I forgot how much of a BEAST Gallery was…now…not so much…

by IAinCA on Oct 6, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

When field position and possession matter more than points

you’ve just walked into Kirk Ferentz’s Thunderdome. Oh, that game was so much fun to watch.

How many times did Penn State get in the red zone and come away empty? I counted at least three.

by Cattlefeeder on Oct 6, 2011 9:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Made me chuckle

"He lowballed us and said: 'Take it or leave it. If you don't take our offer, you are rolling the dice.' I said: 'Consider them rolled.' " - Jim "Huge Brass Balls" Delaney

by ClaybornSmash on Oct 6, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Me too.

But I easily amused.

.....OK, maybe I didn't think the short version of this name through....

by TheStupidShallBePunished on Oct 6, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Seeing that 2002 highlight

How late in the season did Iowa go before getting ranked? The week after the PSU game?

by PackerHawk on Oct 6, 2011 9:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Iowa was ranked 24th in the 9/29 poll, which I believe would have been right after the PSU game.

FUN FACT: Iowa State got as high as 9th (10/13/11) that year.

Then the Oklahoma game happened.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 6, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

They did manage to linger for a few more weeks after that Oklahoma assbeating.

It looks like the assbeating they took at the hands of Kansas State (58-7) was what really drove a stake through their hearts.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 6, 2011 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that was already on life support after the OU and UT losses.

But the K-State game (I recall him throwing pick-sixes on back-to-back plays in that one) fully killed it off.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 6, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

So rec'd

“When they showed clips from the ceremony weekend, there was a shot of Brad Banks since he was actually invited to the festivities.”

This made me laugh heartily.

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Oct 6, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haven't been to an Iowa game at Kinnick since the 2001 game shown here.

That was a great day. Plan on attending the MSU game this year though.

Another game I remember attending at Kinnick was the 1995 PSU game. The Hawks were up in the second half until Bobby Engram just took the game over. I recall sitting in the PSU fan section, pretty close to the field on the visitor sideline. Their cheerleaders were right in front of us; got really tired of the “We are…Penn State” cheer. And Lynn Swann was the sideline reporter, I remember him standing near us waiting for JoePa to emerge for his interview prior to the 2nd half.

by RazorHawk on Oct 6, 2011 9:54 AM CDT reply actions  

I miss healthy Zach Mills

Guy was a beast


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by Ben Jones on Oct 6, 2011 9:55 AM CDT reply actions  

You know, we have had some really irksome units over the years

but it’s hard to really top how bad the early David Bradley-era punt teams were; I think some people forget about that.

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by SomeJerkPoster on Oct 6, 2011 10:17 AM CDT reply actions  

Lowlight reel

And to make it shorter you would have to edit out some of Ward-Tomczak argument. That was actually my favorite part of the clip.

by PackerHawk on Oct 6, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

"I justify my case...I stand...send it to the jury."

ENOUGH OF THAT FANCY LAWYER TALK, TOMCZAK.

"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"

by IPeeBlackAndGold on Oct 6, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love that Pam Ward was so indignant and insistent

and then was proven wrong on the very next play

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 7, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, there were a lot of turnovers, dropped passes, and missed field goals to cover!

Plus, KF’s emotional post-game interview and, as Packer noted, the awesome Ward-Tomczak argument.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 6, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Very true.

And honestly, the 6-4 high/lowlight reel could have been 17:34 of the Eff You safety and I’d watch every second of it multiple times.

by Touchdown Iowa! on Oct 6, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

This right here.

Has there been a bigger, ballsy move than to say, “Here, let me score for you since you can’t.”

"West Texas seems to be full of fake boobs providing a comfortable shade for well-developed pot bellies" - Lycurgus (06/24/2011)

by BStylin Hawkye on Oct 6, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

And considering this is the 2004 defensive unit, allow me to fix my comment...

Seems a little strange very fitting that the highlight reel for the 6-4 game is three minutes longer than a OT game that ended 42-35.

by Touchdown Iowa! on Oct 6, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ahh, the 6-4 game.

Allow me to dust off this chestnut from a post some seven years ago:

Bucket after bucket of beers ensue.

And then, for some still-unknown reason, shots of Jagermeister appear before us. The dark nectar glistens against the sunlight, while I am blissfully unaware of the gathering storm. At this point in the game its 6-2, Iowa. How in the hell do the Hawkeyes get six points after giving up that early safety? No matter, more Jager.

Halftime. A bathroom break will do the team good.

Coming back to the table, I actually felt fine. Standing up, walking around and relieving the burgeoning pressure in my bladder will allow me to survive today’s marathon. Oh, waitress? Shots again.

Third quarter, fourth quarter. What the hell, it’s now 6-4, Iowa? I thought we were watching a football game, 6-4 is more akin to a World Series box score. The horn sounds and it’s a final. Iowa eeks out an ugly, ugly victory.

The only thing uglier is the girl who’s caught my eye. Maybe it’s the faltering light or the smoke or the, God-knows-how-many drinks I’ve had but she is looking good. Damn good. And… is she looking back at me?! Nope.

The full post is here.

by Lukateake on Oct 6, 2011 10:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Excellent work.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 6, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, it's quite worth the click-through.

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by therealCatnuts on Oct 6, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Matt Roth, Murder, Arson and Matt Roth

You said “Matt Roth” twice (for first video)

I LIKE MATT ROTH

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by therealCatnuts on Oct 6, 2011 10:25 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I love some of the tags for this story

“The glory of 6-4,” “The eff you safety,” and “Kirk Ferentz just don’t give a fuck.”

I was sadly unable to watch the infamous game, and didn’t get my first update until the second half. I thought there was some sort of mistake. I mean 6-2! That just sounds wrong. I didn’t get updated again until it was over. 6-4! My first thought was that the hockey game I saw the night before was higher scoring. It’s one thing for a baseball game to be higher scoring, but hockey. That just shouldn’t happen. Oh how I wish I could have watch the “eff you safety” live.

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by 6 seconds of hell on Oct 6, 2011 10:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Pistachios better watch out

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by therealCatnuts on Oct 6, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wish BHGP had existed for this game.

The gamethread would be legendary.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 6, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I believe to this day that the only way to observe a game like that (6-4) is through a tinny computer speaker with no video.

I was unable to watch it, but listened to it online back when Yahoo let you purchase access to Dolph’s radio feed for $20/season.

You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Oct 6, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I listened the same way...

the most exciting moment was when Tate drew the offense off-sides to effectively end the game. I was hoping that the bus was already running so we could get the hell out of town. COuldn’t believe we won like that.

by JasHawk on Oct 6, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was a surreal game to watch on TV.

Although I would have liked to hear Dolph and Eddie debate the merits of the Eff You safety, too.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 6, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I saw it on TV too.

Listening to Tomczak restrain himself is still a good piece to listen to when you find yourself feeling a little extra hate towards Pam Ward as you listen to her butcher a football broadcast.

"West Texas seems to be full of fake boobs providing a comfortable shade for well-developed pot bellies" - Lycurgus (06/24/2011)

by BStylin Hawkye on Oct 6, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's no getting around it.

Iowa-PSU 2002 was a monumental collapse. Up 35-13 with 12:30 to go in the 4th. Jovon Johnson returns an interception to the PSU 1. Their second chance in two minutes to punch in a TD to go up 42-13 (after Banks just threw a tipped interception in the end zone about three plays before that). And somehow Iowa gives the ball away again and Penn State comes all the way back to tie that game.

2002 would have been a completely different year if they finished the choke job there. Let’s hope the Pitt comeback in 2011 is every bit the catalyst that hanging on to win that game was in 2002.

by Cattlefeeder on Oct 6, 2011 10:36 AM CDT reply actions  

I was looking at the schedule going forward

and kinda, sorta, maybe a little, started to think that a run was possible. I then slapped myself in the face and closed the window. It’s just this schedule looks so manag….I’m gonna stop now

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"Consider them rolled." - Jim Delany

by 6 seconds of hell on Oct 6, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it was horrific.

What made it worse was that it came just two weeks after that painful collapse against ISU. I distinctly remember watching the PSU game with a sinking “oh no, this couldn’t really happen again, could it?!” feeling. If that had happened, all bets are off as far as the rest of 2002 goes. But my guess is it’s no better than an 8-4 season.

Incidentally, this highlight video omits it, but I’m pretty sure there was a play in this game where Freddie got absolutely screwed out of a TD.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 6, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

But after ISU

we almost needed this game to unfold the way it did. And win. That’s the most important part, of course. I think had we lost, the season might have gone into a tail-spin as the offense would look at the defense and say “it doesn’t matter how large a lead we give you, you won’t hold it, why bother?” Instead, we win and the team starts to believe in itself. And after the Purdue game one or two weeks later, we were never seriously challenged in a game until the bowl.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 7, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree, it may have gotten ugly had we lost the Penn State game

Fortunately they held the fort and the rest is history.

After Purdue, they were tested for short spurts – parts of the IU game were…interesting, things looked dicey against Michigan when it was 10-9 and Iowa was forced to punt early in the third quarter, and the Wisconsin game was tight.

Of course, Steen had 3 picks in the IU game, Michigan fumbled the punt in question and Iowa scored immediately to turn that into a rout, and Iowa dropped the bomb on about 4 Wisconsin quarterbacks. You saw a healthy amount of Roses in Kinnick when the Wisconsin game ended.

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Oct 7, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Iowa just mauled the Wisco QBs in that game.

Utterly brutal.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 7, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

It does seem like you need games like that to really galvanize a team and get things headed in the right direction.

The ’08 PSU game was a clear example of that. ’09 had no shortage of games like that, although that was also such a flawed team (offensively, anyway) that Iowa had trouble putting ANYONE away.

I don’t think the ’10 team ever got a win like that — maybe if Stanzi could have engineered a comeback against ’Zona or Wisco (or if the defense had just been able to hang on)…

Obviously, we’re hoping that the Pitt game was that game this year.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 7, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

A few things

The Iowa INT right before the Russell fumble was a fluky play. Clark was going to catch it at the 1, but someone stepped on his shoe and tripped Clark (who actually lost his shoe on the play; you can see it in the end zone), he tips it, and it’s picked off. If either of those plays are converted for scores, the comeback for PSU never happens.

The FG before halftime was huge. Momentum looked to be moving PSU’s way after their first TD, but that’s what happens when 1) KF trusts the offense, 2) you have a tight end like Clark, and 3) you have a kicker with a fucking bionic leg. For some reason, I recall KF giving Kaeding a hard time on that field goal because he ran to the wrong end of the stadium (ran toward the goal posts, but it was halftime and the tunnel is at the other end of the field).

I need more Mark Jones in my Iowa telecasts. Always mentions the Ped Mall, always talked up Vito’s (bad choice of bar, but whatever), had the classic “Trick or Treat, Iowa City!” during the epic Sash return in 2009 – we need more Mark Jones. He called just about all of the games in 2002.

We’ve talked a lot about how potentially good this year’s receivers are, and rightfully so. McNutt could be the best to ever come through Iowa City, Davis has loads of potential, and we’re seeing why DJK talked up KMM on Twitter so much. But damn, the 2002 crew was fantastic with CJ Jones, Mo Brown (would’ve been a pro were it not for the ankle injury at ISU in 2003), Hinkel, and Clark.

The only Big Ten teams I can think of in recent memory that had similar “Fuck you” swagger were 2006 Ohio State, 2006 Michigan, and this year’s Wisconsin team. I’d be willing to throw in 2005 and 2008 Penn State, too. 2005 Ohio State was close, but that was more of a revenge tour than anything.

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Oct 6, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

JoePa doesn't let them have swagger.

Why? Because filthy Spaniards swagger, that’s why.

Mark Jones and Bob Davie called almost as many Iowa games in 2002 as Dolph and Eddie. I have a lot of fond memories attached to them for that reason (Jones was also the one with the “Jermelle Lewis is wearing Minnesota (?) like a cheap suit!” line, I believe).

And, yeah, the 2002 receiving corps is the one I instinctively compare this year’s group, too. I think KMM could be better than Hinkel (’02 Hinkel at least; he has a long way to go yet to be better than ’04 or ’05 Hinkel), but Clark definitely puts the ’02 group over the top. He was freaky good that year.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 6, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe it was...

“Jermelle Lewis is working Minnesota like a part-time job!” when he broke a few tackles and hit the circle button down the sideline late in that game. Lewis was a freak that only saw his career derailed by injuries.

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Oct 6, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that was it.

Thanks.

Jermelle was definitely one of the great “could have been” stories of the KF Hawkeyes. He seemed like he was destined for big things, but injuries kept getting in the way.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 6, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I distinctly remember a KO return TD by him.

A friend of mine lives in University Heights, and I watched that game at his place. The ground was literally shaking from people going nuts in the stadium.

by One Night Stanzi on Oct 6, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mike Tomczak better watch out.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 6, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

that 2002 team

has so much “Fuck you were Iowa” in them it’s not even funny.

He sired a baseball team... An orchestra, if you count the bastards!

by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Oct 6, 2011 11:14 AM CDT reply actions  

How about being up 23-7 with 15 seconds to go to halftime

and yet passing from their own 30 to set up Kaeding’s 55-yarder?

Maybe Kirk really does loosen O’Keefe’s leash when he trusts the offense. It’s just been so long that I’ve forgotten.

by Cattlefeeder on Oct 6, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also, the most emotion from a kicker

From a made FG we’ve seen since ’08 PSU. Or whichever Grammatica that was.

by One Night Stanzi on Oct 6, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kaeding was always pretty demonstrative.

"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood

by SomeJerkPoster on Oct 6, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kaeding was always looking for someone to hit on kickoffs, too.

I loved that about him.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 6, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

And that's what got him hurt first week of the season.

That and SD’s horrible kickoff coverage.

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by BStylin Hawkye on Oct 6, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I miss the days when Iowa's special teams were compared to Virginia Tech's

Badly miss those days.

You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Oct 6, 2011 11:31 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

So last year or 2009?

Since the last decade actually saw more blocked kicks from Iowa than VA Tech. It’s just not stated that often.

by PackerHawk on Oct 6, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Florida's the new gold standard, actually.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 6, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps we should alert the media

Or have they caught on? From what I can tell it’s still all about VA Tech.

by PackerHawk on Oct 6, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

They talk about it during Florida games, I know.

But the “VT is awesomer at special teams than everyone else” talking point does still get dragged out an awful lot.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 6, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't watch Florida games.

Not out of hate, but it’s usually number 3 or 4 on the favorites for the day and I just kind of hop in for score updates.

by PackerHawk on Oct 6, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man, these videos really make me wish I had gone to Iowa instead of UNL.

Just too many factors pulled me to Lincoln, but dammit, it would have been awesome going there in the Spring 2000 and trying to walk on.

meh

by tyger1147 on Oct 6, 2011 11:38 AM CDT reply actions  

All those ESPN, Eastern Elitist Media types

had their noses buried deeply btween Joe Paterno’s saggy butt cheeks.

"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants

by Kluginator on Oct 6, 2011 11:39 AM CDT reply actions  

I would trade

Herman, Derby, Fredorawitz and Martin-Manley for one Dallas Clark.

"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants

by Kluginator on Oct 6, 2011 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

I was at that Purdue game

When he hurdled the dude and ran like 90 yards. Epic.

by One Night Stanzi on Oct 6, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would like a viable 3rd WR to remain on the roster

But I’m okay with the TEs. I’m assuming you mean Derby the elder, not Derby the bus window thrasher.

by PackerHawk on Oct 6, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's astonishing to me that he only had 4 TDs.

It seemed like so many more…

The 742 receiving yards was pretty extraordinary, though. The only TE since then who’s even cracked 500 reeciving yards is Chandler in 05 and 06.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 6, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really? He had 2 in the Purdue game. Huh.

FYI, those two TDs are both in my Top 10 personal memories ever in Kinnick. The winning trick play where he was the only guy on the left side of the field is forever burned into my brain. I really think that might be my #1 favorite Hawkeye moment ever for everything that surrounded it.

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by therealCatnuts on Oct 6, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

He had 4 in 02 and 4 in 01.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 6, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

He had two against Purdue, I know he had one against Wisconsin

Where was the other TD in 2002? jNW maybe?

Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.

by Nickhawk08 on Oct 6, 2011 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, against jNW

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 6, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I agree completely

Even allowing that nostalgia tends to make one exaggerate, I still think the end of that Purdue game was hands down my favorite moment in Kinnick. The student section was absolute pandemonium.

by Skillet13 on Oct 6, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have recordings of the entire 2002 season

and I pleasure myself often while watching them. It is football porn.

"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants

by Kluginator on Oct 6, 2011 11:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Good Ol' Fashioned Ass Whoopin'

These clips are timeless and priceless! it’s always awesome to hear the old names and see the players from times gone by again. Wondering in print how many of these guys are still in The League?

the first 80% of the 2002 game was a LOT of fun to watch. We still get to see the last 20% all too frequently these days.

Anyone here old enough to remember DB? A real old school baseball coach...

by two_niner_was_old_school on Oct 6, 2011 12:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Let's see...

A few key guys are injured right now – Kaeding, the perpetually injured Sanders (who you have to think is done after this year), Steinbach.

Colin Cole, Gallery, Clark, Babineaux, Roth. I think that’s the group still playing. Several guys got a cup of coffee in the league – Pagel, Ben Sobieski, I think David Porter got into a camp for awhile.

Then you have the younger guys who made the league later down the line and were redshirt freshmen that year – Greenway, Hodge, Considine, etc.

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by Nickhawk08 on Oct 6, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pagel hung around for a few years, actually.

I’m impressed Considine has been able to last this long.

Nelson made it a few years before injuries permanently ended his NFL career, I think.

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by RossWB on Oct 6, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only one, I think

He played on their Super Bowl team, but I think he got hurt the next offseason and was done.

by NorseHawk on Oct 6, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

More or less.

Looks like he was with the Panthers for two years, but only played one year (2003).

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by RossWB on Oct 6, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right, Pagel was around a few years

Wasn’t he known as a big hitter with Washington? I think I remember reading that Spurrier had to hold him out of practices from time to time because he kept hurting his teammates.

Nelson was a great one, can’t believe I forgot him. With all due respect to Rob Bruggeman, Bruce Nelson is the best center we’ve had in the KF era.

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by Nickhawk08 on Oct 6, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pagel hung around a few years with the Jets and Redskins, I think.

I don’t remember what kind of rep he had, though.

Iowa was definitely Safety U there for a little bit, though, with Pagel, Sanders, and Considine. Paschal made it for a bit, too, as I recall.

Nelson was better, but Bruggy was really good. I wish he could have had more than one year as a starter.

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by RossWB on Oct 6, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bruggy is a pretty clear #2 in my mind

The 2007 season stunk for several reasons, and one of them was no Bruggeman on the offensive line. That line would’ve been markedly improved with a healthy Bruggy. Probably doesn’t change the outcome of that season – too many injuries, too many transfers/flameouts, JC at QB, etc. – but it would’ve helped.

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by Nickhawk08 on Oct 6, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

And too many City Boyz

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by Nickhawk08 on Oct 6, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

We weren't really going for it on 4th at the end of 6-4

The call was to do the hard count to draw them offsides, and if someone jumped they’d immediately snap the ball to get the call. Presumably if that hadn’t worked they’d have called timeout and kicked it.

by NorseHawk on Oct 6, 2011 1:26 PM CDT reply actions  

I would buy this, but the FYS seems to show that wasn't Kirk's thought process that day

If he gave them the safety with 8 min. left, why would he fear giving them the ball on that filed 4th down attempt?

by PackerHawk on Oct 6, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also, they used their last time out about 45 seconds before the FYS.

They played the last 8 minutes with no timeouts. So I’m guessing the 4th down call was draw them offsides or snap it and try to make the first if the play clock was close to 0.

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by BStylin Hawkye on Oct 6, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well shit

That’s just crazy then

by NorseHawk on Oct 6, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

True, although adding another five yards onto a field goal that close wouldn't be a huge issue.

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by RossWB on Oct 6, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love the Sanders blitz off the edge in the 2001 game

Those worked nearly every time.

And while he didn’t do much in the 2001 PSU game, we saw Jeremy Allen in the highlight montage for 2001. We haven’t had an all-around fullback anywhere near as good since he graduated in 2001.

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by Nickhawk08 on Oct 6, 2011 4:35 PM CDT reply actions  

The most startling thing to me about the 2004 game was the (relatively) heavy use of Aaron Mickens.

He looked pretty good, too. I’m half-surprised he didn’t more carries instead of Slammin’ Sammy.

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by RossWB on Oct 6, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Safeties are undervalued scores.

I’d prefer if they were… oh… 4 points per safety.

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by J.Schnauzer on Oct 7, 2011 3:39 PM CDT reply actions  

PSU games were always a bit of a belwether for us.

When we beat them in 2000, for me it was the moment when I first truly thought. “Hey, this Ferentz guy might be turning things around.” Then, in 2002, it was more of a “Hey, this team looks kind of charmed in a good and bad kind of way”, that “special season” sort of feeling.

Speaking of 2002, whole game shoulda’ been out of reach if only the whistle hadn’t been prematurely blown on an Iowa TD strip-sack of the PSU QB—if that play stands, game over. Or if Freddie doesn’t fumble going in for a TD—game over. As it stands, we were fortunate not to have crapped the whole thing away.

In 2004, my only remebrance—other than the safety—was the Lydell Mitchell interview that lasted about 20 minutes, since clearly no one was being entertained by what was going on on the actual field. I always mention this, but few others remember it.

But I do. It was interminable.

Lastly, 2001 PSU was Kaeding’s coming out party—before that game, he was to many of us a below-average kicker. After it, when we got inside a team’s 40, we knew we had a chance at 3 points. I think, in a year, we may feel the same about Mike Meyer. I’ve just got a good feeling about that kid.

Also, 2011 PSU is a team we should beat, and there, I’ve said it. I didn’t give us much chance in 2008 or 2009, but this year we’re better than they are. Of course, we’ll somehow lose this game, probably on picks and not enough offense. But on paper, we’re not only better, we’re MUCH better than they are.

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