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Wha Happened? Week Five Around The Big Ten

And on the fifth week, Iowa football did rest.  But the rest of the league did not.  So Wha Happened?

WIN
#7 Wisconsin 48, #8 Nebraska 17
Now that is how you initiate a newbie to the club.  Well done, Badgers.  Well done indeed.  At first, this looked like a potential shootout and evidence that either Nebraska was much better than it had looked through the first four weeks... or that Wisconsin was much worse than it had looked.  Nebraska and Wisconsin traded scores early, but after Nebraska opened up a 14-7 lead early in the second quarter, the Badgers hit the turbo button and went into overdrive: they scored 41 of the game's next 44 points, including 31 in a row in the second and third quarters.  The once-vaunted Blackshirts defense reverted to the form that had seen it gashed by the likes of Fresno State and Washington.  Russell Wilson had another fine day at the office -- 14/20, 255 yards, 2/0 TD/INT, plus 32 yards and 1 TD on six carries running the ball -- and cemented his status as the best quarterback in the conference.  James White was unusually ineffective running against Nebraska (26 yards on 11 carries), but Montee Ball more than picked up the slack, with 151 yards and 4 TD on 30 carries.  This Wisconsin offense has everything you could ask for, really: they have an accurate, poised passer who can stretch defenses (Wilson), a bruising running back (Ball), a speedy running back (White), a quality deep threat (Nick Toon), a solid tight end (Jacob Pedersen), and -- oh yeah -- a collection of behemoth offensive linemen opening holes for the running backs and protecting the quarterback.  There might still be a few question marks about their defense (though they largely held Nebraska in check after those early drives), but there shouldn't be any about of their offense.  They're the clear front-runners in the Big Ten this year... and no one else is even close right now.

But whither Nebraska?  The same things that raised red flags early on for them -- Martinez's inaccuracy and tendency to unleash arm punts directly the other team, a surprisingly flimsy defense, a lack of discipline -- led directly to their disemboweling in Madison on Saturday night.  Martinez went 11/22 for 176 yards and threw three hideous interceptions directly to Badger players (which led to 21 Wisconsin points).  The defense was unable to slow Wisconsin down on the ground or through the air.  And they committed 9 penalties for 80 yards.  All of which added up a recipe for abject failure on their introduction into the Big Ten.  The good news is they won't play a team as good as Wisconsin the rest of the way (unless they manage to get back to the Big Ten Championship Game, where they could see Wisconsin again).  The bad news is there are still other teams on the slate who can exploit their weaknesses.  Oh, and that "BIG-TEN-FOOTBALL" chant from the Madison crowd on Saturday night?  Positively sublime.  Excellent job, Badger fans.

Star-divide

PLACE
Michigan State 10, Ohio State 7
The Penn State-Indiana game (covered down below) was not the only eyerape perpetrated on unsuspecting football fans by Big Ten teams on Saturday; Michigan State and Ohio State endeavored to provide their own brand of surreal awfulness to the mid-afternoon football window.  Michigan State scored on a beautifully-thrown touchdown pass from Kirk Cousins to B.J. Cunningham halfway through the first quarter, which was notable for a few reasons: (1) it was one of the only passes thrown all day -- by either team -- that could honestly be called "beautiful" and (2) it was the game's only touchdown (in fact, only points scored) until the fourth quarter.  To a degree, of course, we should tip our hat to the defenses of both teams -- they did play an instrumental role in stifling the opposing offenses and producing the hideous football abomination we saw lurching across the field at the Horseshoe.  I'd give a particular shout-out to the Spartan front seven, who looked quite terrifying in scything through the Buckeye offensive line and laying waste to OSU running backs and quarterbacks.  On the other hand, good defense can only go so far in explaining that disaster.  Kirk Cousins had respectable-looking numbers (20/32, 250 yards, 1/2 TD/INT), but they belie the fact that he threw plenty of seriously ugly passes and had more than a few moments where he seemed to be possessed by a goat with no particular knowledge of how to play football.  As for Ohio State... ye gods.  30 of Ohio State's 64 plays went for zero yards (or lost yards).  They ran the ball 39 times for 35 yards, a ghastly 0.9 ypc average, and went just 12/25 for 143 yards and 1/1 TD/INT passing the ball.  I'm not sure there are words strong enough to describe how godawful their offense appeared in this game.

SHOW
#24 Illinois 38, just Northwestern 35
PERSASTRONG made his triumphant return to the Purple Kitties as they battled for the coveted LOLHat Trophy and for three quarters things were looking good for the Wizgerald's charges: Persa was 10/14 for 123 yards and 4 TDs and they'd built up a 28-10 lead on the back of some fortuitous Illinois turnovers (and one baffling offensive pass interference call that negated an Illinois score).  Then Nathan Scheelhaase and A.J. Jeknins went into BEAST MODE and things went very sour for jNW.  In their last game, jNW got torched for almost 400 rushing yards by Army's prolific option attack.  They plugged that leak on Saturday (a previously-potent Illinois rushing attack went for just 82 yards on 38 carries), but a brand-new one sprung open: Scheelhaase threw for 391 yards and 3 TD on 21/32 passing.  Jenkins was his favorite target by far, hauling in 12 catches for 268 yards and 3 TD.  You'd think after the first half-dozen catches and 100 yards you might consider double-covering him and making someone else beat you.

And in the realm of truly inexplicable stats, Northwestern dropped to 1-3 under Fitzgerald when they have a 17-point lead.  Maybe that's part of the counter-balance to their obscene good fortune in close games.  Meanwhile, Illinois improved to a gaudy 5-0; two of their next three games are against Indiana and Purdue (albeit on the road), which means the only thing standing between them and an 8-0 record heading into Happy Valley on Halloween weekend is a home date with a dreadful-looking Ohio State squad.  It's the Zooker's world and the rest of us are just staring slack-jawed in disbelief.

Meanwhile, this week's installment of As The Dumpster Fire Burns has some of the Big Ten's worst teams plumbing new depths of wretchedness.

#19 Michigan 58, Minnesota 0
Had Brady Hoke felt like it, I feel confident in saying that he could have ran up 80 on Minnesota in this game.  Michigan had a 38-0 lead at the half and consciously put on the brakes in the second half, scoring just 20 points total and not really trying to be explosive on offense at all.  Perhaps the most impressive aspect of this mauling was that it didn't require a Herculean effort from Denard Robinson at all: The Denard was 15/19 for 169 yards and 2 TD through the air and tacked on 51 yards and 1 TD on six carries on the ground.  Michigan dominated because they did whatever they felt like on offense: 363 yards and 3 TD on 48 carries (a blistering 7.6 ypc) and 18/25 for 217 yards and 3 TD through the air.  Their defense also continued their season-long trend of being able to put the clamps on bad offenses: Minnesota ran just 47 plays (for 177 total yards), had six three and outs, and (by my count) ran just seven plays on the Michigan side of the field.  Holy hell, is Minnesota a bad football team. 

Penn State 16, Indiana 10
Oh god.  All video footage of this game should be magnetically erased, then burnt to ashes.  The ashes should be swept up and locked in a safe and the safe should be buried ten miles underground, with the location of the burial site erased from all records.  In other words: PLEASE OH PLEASE LET US NEVER WATCH THIS GAME EVER AGAIN.  EVER.  While Penn State wound up with some reasonable overall numbers (464 yards of total offense), Mattbert McGLOLden still completed less than 50% of their passes (16/36 overall) and had a 1:1 TD: INT radio and the running game racked up 193 yards -- but took 50 carries to do so.  This is still not a good offense.  Not even close.  The defense is still plenty good, although facing Indiana's toothless attack isn't going to tell us too much about them.  Penn State remains an ugly, confusing mess of a team right now.

Notre Dame 38, Purdue10
Purdue got a last-minute touchdown to crack double figures and make the final score look marginally more respectable, but don't be fooled: they were dominated from the opening whistle by Notre Dame.  Caleb TerBush started the game, but gave way to Robert Marve, who was so ineffective (9/22, 91 yards) that TerBush got another crack in the fourth quarter (where he promptly led Purdue on their lone, meaningless scoring drive).  The Boilermakers couldn't run the ball (27 carries for 84 yards) and couldn't stop Notre Dame from doing whatever they wanted: 551 yards of total offense, including 287 yards and 2 TD on 40 carries on the ground.  More damaging was the fact that their defense couldn't force a single turnover against a Notre Dame team that had been all-too-happy to give the ball away in their first four games.  Purdue also incurred 13 penalties for 118 yards; when a bad football is also an undisciplined football team, you wind up with horrendous results like this one.

NEXT WEEK: At least one of the league's most obnoxious fanbases will be inconsolable after falling to 0-2 when Nebraska entertains Ohio State; just Northwestern tries to prevent their season from slipping farther down the drain by hosting... Michigan?  (gulp); Illinois continues to make Indiana fans pine for Cody Zeller; and Minnesota and Purdue battle over which program is dumpster fire-ier

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I hope Bucky the Badger understands

that what I am about to say is a 1 time deal.

Great job last week, I’m proud of ya.

I’m gonna go wash my fingers repeatedly now…

"If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be research." - Albert Einstein

"Consider them rolled." - Jim Delany

by 6 seconds of hell on Oct 3, 2011 2:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes

I threw up a little bit and died a bit inside telling my ex this on the phone yesterday. Also, my fingers were busy pissing on Bucky BCS TITLE OMG THIS IS OUR YEAR!! parades on facebook yesterday. Not in a mean way, but in a “not until two of the three Stanford, OU, Both SEC West teams lose but you look dominant now and I’m impressed”, kind of way. Inside hoping that a 9-3,8-4,10-2,11-1(?) Iowa team can beat a 12-0 WI team in Indy. I really really want that most of all.

by PackerHawk on Oct 3, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

No matter our record,

if we make it to Indy and beat an undefeated Wisconsin, it would be 10 times better than beating them in ’04 and shitting on their Rose Bowl and B1G title hopes, and that game was pretty fucking awesome.

Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.

by Give Eddie a Beer on Oct 3, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would be beyond terrific.

And even better if we won on a fake punt.


"Pursue happiness... with diligence."

by Bucketochicken on Oct 3, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

or by BOOMstine

placing his headgear firmly in the chest of whichever asshat they have trying to fake another punt for a 5 yard loss. Let’s face it, BB would be dickish enough to try another this year.

"Sometimes the truth gets in the way of a good story" - KF

by The Bacon Explosion on Oct 3, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not a doctor...

but you threw up and died inside because you were talking to your ex on the phone. This is a law of nature.

by rosko on Oct 4, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

My ex is my best friend

Friendship was the one part of the relationship that we were really good at.

by PackerHawk on Oct 4, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then sex must be like a tortoise trying to fuck a 10-speed bike tire.

Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein

by Lycurgus on Oct 4, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a strange analogy.

How the hell does that come to the front of your mind?

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Oct 4, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Not quite sure I understand where that came from.

by PackerHawk on Oct 4, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am pretty sure

 Lycurgus was making fun of the size of your penis. Interesting though, turtles have enormous penises relatively speaking and can engage in the sex act for hours at a time. All I can say is that your ten speed bike tire is one lucky lady.

I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan

by Kluginator on Oct 4, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually, I have no idea what Lycurgus was saying

but turtles do have big peckers!

I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan

by Kluginator on Oct 4, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

You said that you were really good at being friends and, given that you are exes, I assumed that the sex must have been a train wreck. Probably a faulty assumption, but a chick who is a great friend and awesome in the sack is basically my unattainable goal.

Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein

by Lycurgus on Oct 4, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, yes.

Nobody is to blame, but the physical side was not quite a train wreck, nor was it exactly stellar.

by PackerHawk on Oct 4, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, the deadly middle ground. Rambler can attest to the danger of lingering between trenches. The light and promise of much of his lineage moulders still as the result of a tragic inability to quit the field at the breast of Victory or under her heel.

Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein

by Lycurgus on Oct 4, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

This sounds so dirty.

I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan

by Kluginator on Oct 4, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I try to keep you entertained.

Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein

by Lycurgus on Oct 4, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is, I’m not

Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein

by Lycurgus on Oct 4, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I have been exposed to numerous chemicals in the past 10 years. My germ line is basically a minefield.

“Sorry honey, your fingers are webbed like that because daddy didn’t like to wear gloves around ethidium bromide”.

Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein

by Lycurgus on Oct 4, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not exposure

it’s uncontrolled genetic trials on yourself. Yep, I know that one. My wife has two kids from her previous marriage. I’m not sad that we have no intention of having any of our own.

"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass

by chitownhawkeye on Oct 4, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am always trying to get coeds to participate in outcrossing experiments, but I am rarely successful.

Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein

by Lycurgus on Oct 4, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

You know then.

Parsimony methods are the easiest ones to explain - Felsenstein

by Lycurgus on Oct 4, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Went to the same high school as this kid

luckily never in the same building at the same time…but I can def see this from a kid like that. gotta just love his smirk on that picture though.

Packers...Hawkeyes, need I say more?

by dirtydave on Oct 3, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

BITE YOUR TONGUE!

As a proud, red-blooded American citizen, Leman has too much respect for private property to engage in such destructive behavior.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 3, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe they have a good son/evil son thing going.

"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"

by IPeeBlackAndGold on Oct 3, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm, that could be.

Although that makes J Leman into Frodo, I think.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 3, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

But my head just exploded

Does Rome run away from the burglers screaming or do they run away from them?

Bethany: Were they sent to Hell?
Metatron: Worse. Wisconsin. For the entire span of human history.

by kurthy on Oct 3, 2011 8:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Fully acknowledging Wisco is good, this game to me said more about Nebby.

Wow was that ugly. I had no idea Taylor Martinez was that bad at, you know, throwing the football. And once the wheels came off they stopped tackling. They seemed to stop trying. I’d be shocked if the Huskers win the Legends. That is one average college football team.

Because the Gulfstream 5 has neither the airspeed nor the specs to adequately describe how fly I feel.

by DonnyDonovan on Oct 3, 2011 2:39 PM CDT reply actions  

I guess they didn't care about that game

Because we all know they only lose games they don’t care about.

"I don't believe in quotes" - Karl Klug

by Nature Boy on Oct 3, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've been telling EVERYONE I know that follows football . . .

That T-Mart is a terrible, terrible, terrible passer.

Was nice to see it on full display in front of a national audience Saturday. The kid is a nice runner and pretty damn tough (a few of the hits he took, I didn’t expect him to get up from). But I’ve seen quite a few high school QBs with smoother mechanics and better accuracy.

It’s hard for me to understand why it appears no one has ever worked with him on how a college QB is supposed to throw a ball. Or maybe they have and he just ignores them. But it is very weird.

by Torbee on Oct 3, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sanchez was pretty bad last night

But I think missing Mangold is HUGE. Their center position is a debacle right now.

by mikjones24 on Oct 3, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shonn Greene

Isn’t too popular right know among the Jets fans in my area of Upstate NY

by GuttedSnowBird on Oct 3, 2011 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

6 of the Jets offensive starters were from

B1G schools. Not a good showing for the conference.

It's so sad how a family can be torn apart by something as simple as a pack of wild dogs.

by FiveSecondRuleChef on Oct 3, 2011 7:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Except that he hasn't done much of anything in 4 games so far

"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe

by Brock8144 on Oct 4, 2011 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1, Martinez looked like he was throwing eggs at his ex-girlfriends house.

I mean, but gawd, those arm chucks he put up were fugly. I was telling everyone, that’s how not to throw a football. And he’s not that big either, I see him getting flattend one of these games and not getting up.

Looks like the only way to beat Wiscy is to keep the O on the bench. Expect WI to tack big numbers on everyone in the B1G Ten this year, they looked pretty damn good.

by Stay thirsty, my friends. on Oct 3, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I noticed last season after watching Martinez

try to throw a 20 yd pass that he grossly failed the eye test. Looked like a mediocre high school QB. Don’t understand how they expect to be as good as they think they are with him throwing “arm punts” -(beautifully descriptive btw). Denard Robinson could throw circles around Martinez.

by encopresis on Oct 3, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of OSU getting guys back from suspension...

These guys are real men of genius.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 3, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

DERP.

Thanks for fixing that.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 3, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

If those two are allowed to ever play at OSU again

then the BIG needs to kick OSU out of the conference. That’s completely unacceptable.

Please note that the internet does not, as of yet, have a sarcasm font.

by benvious on Oct 3, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Some people just don’t learn. Especially when you know your program is going to be on probation and your entire team is under a huge magnifying glass.

Skol!

by DM_Purp on Oct 3, 2011 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did they say when the overpayments were made?

This past summer or in 2010? In defense of these guys, I deal with grad student payments all the time and you may be surprised of how many grad students get paid double for a month or two and when it is discovered they plead total ignorance. If someone gets paid an extra $300 over the course of 8-10 weeks employment, we are talking an extra $6 a day or $0.75 per hour which could be easily missed especially when you throw in standard withholding and automatic deposits. I am not saying this is the case, just that in certain circumstances, I can see a kid getting innocently overpaid and not having a clue its going on.

I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan

by Kluginator on Oct 3, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

The best part is just how badly they are throwing Tressel under the bus.

If these violations were from this past summer how the hell did he have anything to do with it? But yet Gene Smith blamed it squarely on him and the players with nothing towards their quick reporting compliance office. If Barta were in Smith’s position right now I would demand he be fired. How is this guy still around?

by Argulor on Oct 3, 2011 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

They’re trying to cover for the defense. Nothing to see here folks!!

by txhawkeye on Oct 3, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd be fine with applying the NCAA Death Penalty to tOSU in football

They can stay a member of B1G… just shutter the football program for a couple of years.

"u r awesome" ~ my daughter

by The Bird Cult on Oct 3, 2011 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would find it hard to believe that the basketball team isn't every bit as guilty as football.

But that’s just a guess.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood..." - Teddy Roosevelt

by HawKCP on Oct 3, 2011 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

motta is a completely different animal

my nephew is the next walk on,,,
and craft, beleive it or not was one of the kids
at the tennessee barbecue that
ended Pearl’s tenuire
their #1 recruit was just ruled ineligible
but they will still contend for it all
motta marches to a different drummer
Go Hawks

Long Live the Pellican Whore - like FOREVER

by OhioHawk on Oct 4, 2011 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fail

I’d say these guys need to get with the program but it sounds like they already have.

by Hawklyn on Oct 3, 2011 4:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Irrelevant as they are both wildly inconsistent and not The Answer, but you actually combined McGloin and Bolden’s stat line and gave it all to the former walk on. McGloin had the TD, Bolden the int, and they both completed less than 50% of their passes. The identity thing is right on, though.

by Kevin Powers on Oct 3, 2011 4:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Wisconsin is real

I still think Michigan is a paper tiger, but damn if they won’t be able to outscore people. As for everybody else, we deserve any and all comments we get. This is not starting out as a good year for the conference

"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass

by chitownhawkeye on Oct 3, 2011 5:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Michigan makes me nervous

because I don’t know how our defense will fair against them. We are clearly not the same defense as a couple years ago. We may have to no-huddle our way to 60 pts to beat them.

Skol!

by DM_Purp on Oct 4, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

First hand account:

As someone who snuck into the Wisconsin student section and watched that Nebraska beatdown from the 4th row, I’ve determined that they do have a weakness. Their kicker is not very good at kicking off. Unfortunately to exploit this weakness, you have to let them score continuously.

I was at the UNLV game as well and the D looked much better against Nebby. They looked relatively uninterested in the opener and made a lot of mistakes and looked like a potential weakness, but this D was focused and dominated for large stretches of the game. The offense is a juggernaut

If the Badgers play even close to their ability the rest of the way, they’ll run the table and represent the BIG in the NCG. Barring injury, I’m starting to question whether they will even have a close game in conference play. IMHO they have looked like the best and most complete team the Big 10 has had in awhile.

Also, fuck the Packers. I hate living in Wisconsin right now.

Fuck tOSU

by ajs1122 on Oct 3, 2011 5:26 PM CDT reply actions  

I am sorry for your plight.

at least they have Beer…Lots and Lots of it.

by DaaCF on Oct 3, 2011 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

What if...

OK, Stanford, Wisky, and an SEC team all run the table? Does the world explode? Does the BCS finally cave to the plus 1 and let, Stanford and Wisky play in an epic Rose Bowl showdown? If Wisky can’t make the MNC without help this is the outcome I want.

by Argulor on Oct 3, 2011 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

If that happens Wisconsin is shit outta' luck.

And so is Stanford. No way either of those teams gets over Oklamhoma or an SEC Speed® team. Maybe – maybe - Oklahoma. But I doubt it.


"Pursue happiness... with diligence."

by Bucketochicken on Oct 3, 2011 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Meh.

People say this every year at this time but it never* happens. It’s much much more likely that there’s 4 one-loss teams and we’re arguing over who has the “better” loss than having 4 undefeated BCS-conf teams

*very slight hyperbole

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Oct 3, 2011 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

It wasn't 4 BCS conference teams...

But 2009 was a good example with 5 undefeated teams in BCS games. If the 3rd BCS team had been someone relevant other than Cincy, maybe it would have put a little more pressure but I don’t think so. They just don’t care if there is a “real” National Champion.

Fuck tOSU

by ajs1122 on Oct 3, 2011 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Has an undefeated Big Ten champion ever not played for the NC?

I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan

by Kluginator on Oct 3, 2011 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

no

but there havent been many of them since the BCS started

i think the list is:

tOSU 2002
tOSU 2006

by Loretta8 on Oct 3, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

That might also be because there have only been two undefeated AQ schools most of the time

OU vs. SEC West champ if both are 13-0 will be the MNC game. With the state of the Leaders and conference as a whole this year, 13-0 Stanford may clip WI in the computers if OU or both SEC West teams stumble.

by PackerHawk on Oct 4, 2011 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

But every single year between now and Week 10 we’ll hear about this same possibility. Just saying it’s not really worth talking about.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Oct 3, 2011 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Won't happen

Wiscy will have a Doh! game against the likes of Purdue or Illinois.

by Stay thirsty, my friends. on Oct 4, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Purdue=D'oh! game

I’m not so sure Illinois wouldn’t just be an “instant classic” to decide that division. Also, D’oh! games = Minnesota or Indiana losses.

by PackerHawk on Oct 4, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was there

I was at a Nebraska tailgate with former players. All they could talk about is how shitty our confrence is, but they were glad to get out of the Big 12. They all think that none of the teams in the Big 10 could hang with the teams in the Big 12. I hope Nebraska gets their asses handed to them every week, but i know that still won’t shut them up. I of course was waring all hawkeye gear in the sea of red-white and red-black, so I was on all out trash talking mode.

by BuckeyFucker on Oct 4, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd
It’s the Zooker’s world and the rest of us are just staring slack-jawed in disbelief.

If I could Photoshop Cetus and the Zook together I would.

Please don't tell me how you hate BSU or their turf...I know all too well and keep my toliet water blue for a reason.

by BoiseHawk on Oct 3, 2011 7:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep.

Watching Nebraska on Saturday night, they really reminded me a lot of Michigan circa 2009/2010, albeit with a slightly better defense. And Burkhead is a better running back than anyone on those Michigan teams. But that is not a team well-constructed to win (let alone dominate) in the Big Ten.

Michigan State looks like the team with the most physical defense this year — they were really hitting hard in that OSU game. (Penn State also has a physical defense. Ditto Ohio State — it’s the one decent thing about their team this year.)

And I agree that this week’s Nebraska-OSU game should be very intriguing. The loser is going to be 0-2 in the league and, in all likelihood, essentially out of the running for a title.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Oct 3, 2011 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Michigan State has the most physical defensive line, Penn State has the most physical linebackers and secondary.

The linebacker crown is a bit harder to claim without Mauti (ARRRRRRRGH), but Stupar is definitely a fine replacement. Also, I’m stunned by how much better our secondary is compared to Nebraska’s. I thought they were supposed to be good?

Wasn’t Nebraska supposed to have improved their defensive skills over the last few years?

"Who do you think you are? You’re the son-of-a-bitch that sat at that desk over there and fired Johnny Cash. Let it go down in history that you’re the dumbest son-of-a-bitch I’ve ever met." - Merle Haggard

by ReadingRambler on Oct 3, 2011 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

NE has a secondary?

How is it that 4 guys can be so consistently out of position? It seems they know what is going on about 2 tenths of a second behind everyone with the other jerseys on.

I am not sure how to describe what they looked like – undisciplined? unsure of the scheme they were attempting? somewhat disinterested? Someone who knows more about secondary play is going to have a better analysis beyond my assessment of something was seriously wrong.

"Sometimes the truth gets in the way of a good story" - KF

by The Bacon Explosion on Oct 4, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nebraska is experiencing culture shock

I saw it coming a mile a away. It’s not over either.

"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.

by StoopsMyAss on Oct 4, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

they are just guilty of

bringing a knife to a gun fight.

I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan

by Kluginator on Oct 4, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or they have three new defensive back starters from last year.

And missed their best and only returning one for the first three games of the season.

meh

by tyger1147 on Oct 4, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was just thinking back to the good old days when Michigan was fodder for Bellanca.

Glad to see a new perennial program has stepped up for you, because I love this stuff.

"Who do you think you are? You’re the son-of-a-bitch that sat at that desk over there and fired Johnny Cash. Let it go down in history that you’re the dumbest son-of-a-bitch I’ve ever met." - Merle Haggard

by ReadingRambler on Oct 3, 2011 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

No one touted this Hawkeye defense to be physical. Certainly not our fanbase.

UN-L was hyped to own the B1G. That’s the difference.

"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy

by BentNotBroken on Oct 3, 2011 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I guess I don't fully grasp the distinctions here

The 2009 Iowa defense was considered pretty stout but aside from Angerer and maybe Sash none of them had a reputation for ferocious hits.Of the current defenders, Bernstine has been acknowledged but there are a number of guys that can and do “lay wood” when the opportunity arises. Miller has leveled a couple of guys this season and Morris has had some concussive sacks when Norm sets him to blitzing. I don’t think it is the “hardness” of the hitting that separates the 2009 D from the 2011 D.

Up front, I think we do a good job of containing the run between the tackles but have had difficulty containing mobile quarterbacks (I don’t think we were much better last year but..) and our DE’s tend to get sucked inside which opens the outside for those same mobile QBs. So maybe it is discipline that separates 2009 from 2011 or is it just a case of a talent or experience differential between 2009 and 2011?

I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan

by Kluginator on Oct 4, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

The dissonance is to be expected

Because Nebraska’s problems might be simple, but they are also fundamental. This is not a team built to compete in the B1G, and it won’t be anytime soon.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 3, 2011 10:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Did Pelini make *any* in-game adjustments?

I thought I was watching a man whose dominant thought was, Don’t have a tantrum on national TV, Don’t have a tantrum on national TV. I’m sure he was watching the game I was watching, but I thought coaches were logical types who have a Plan B, even Plan C.

I think the deal with the fanbases of two or three of these Big Ten teams — and two of them play each other on Saturday — is that they have won so much historically that they now are disoriented by difficulty or failure. Their Plan B: assert an entitled excellence no one else can see. OSU will be good again, obviously. But would any major school recruit Pelini to be its head coach? What, actually, was he doing on the sidelines? What is he good at, exactly? With Nebraska, I think we’re witnessing a fanbase and coach still traveling down an unwitting J-curve. This game is probably more important to Fickell than the Michigan game, because who knows what will be left if they repeat that MSU game a few more times. So things will get interesting if OSU gets its act together and shoves NU out of the way. Does your boss scream expletives in your face in front of other people? Do you scream expletives at your friends or children? I’m not sure where this freight train is going. I’m not sure that the guy in the locomotive knows where this train is going.

PSU is a great rivalry for Iowa, as here we have two schools who respect the game for its difficulty and fickle loyalties. We have two coaches who keep the games and the business of D-I football in perspective. And thus both respect their opponents, attempt to leaven the anxiety with a little humor, suffer the game’s inevitable humiliations without being pricks, and deflate most efforts at football sanctimony.

This Saturday, while I’m hanging in beautiful State College, they’re playing the Football Sanctimony Bowl. It’s not going to be pretty.

We play tackle football.

by Bellanca on Oct 4, 2011 5:21 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

"It's not going to be pretty."

No. It will be beautiful.


"Pursue happiness... with diligence."

by Bucketochicken on Oct 4, 2011 5:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't wait!

"Who do you think you are? You’re the son-of-a-bitch that sat at that desk over there and fired Johnny Cash. Let it go down in history that you’re the dumbest son-of-a-bitch I’ve ever met." - Merle Haggard

by ReadingRambler on Oct 4, 2011 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

You make the point that kills me

Who responds well to your boss screaming at him? And, what makes some of tOSU faithful think Pelini would be a good fit in Columbus? It makes no sense. However, enjoy your trip to State College. I haven’t seen a game there, and look forward to hearing about your impressions.

by txhawkeye on Oct 4, 2011 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Feel free to tell us about how much our canned music sucks.

We already know, but we enjoy ranting about it anyway.

"Who do you think you are? You’re the son-of-a-bitch that sat at that desk over there and fired Johnny Cash. Let it go down in history that you’re the dumbest son-of-a-bitch I’ve ever met." - Merle Haggard

by ReadingRambler on Oct 4, 2011 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

cutting down on the Nittany Lion noise would be my humble request

you know the same one that every team nicknamed the lions, panthers, tigers, etc… uses? It gets old quickly.

"Sometimes the truth gets in the way of a good story" - KF

by The Bacon Explosion on Oct 4, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

RAWR!!!

rawr

(my heart wasn’t in the second one)

by Skillet13 on Oct 4, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

They don't even do that that much anymore.

"Who do you think you are? You’re the son-of-a-bitch that sat at that desk over there and fired Johnny Cash. Let it go down in history that you’re the dumbest son-of-a-bitch I’ve ever met." - Merle Haggard

by ReadingRambler on Oct 4, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

clever use of double that

but occasionally is excessive

"Sometimes the truth gets in the way of a good story" - KF

by The Bacon Explosion on Oct 4, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's not possible to feel superior to canned music in State College.

I went to an Iowa game in IC two weeks ago. They do this cross-marketing thing that is supposed to be like The Jump, only it’s a promotion for some crappy burrito restaurant I never heard of. That was one cross-marketing distraction among 50. Maybe Barta should just be ad sales manager for the Register.

We play tackle football.

by Bellanca on Oct 4, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

You've never heard of Panchero's?!?!

What corn field that passes for a town do you live in? Other than that, I agree with everything you said. Unfortunately, I have a feeling it’s a widespread phenomenon. I’ll see if PSU is similarly whorish with the “Dental service provider smile cam” etc.

by PackerHawk on Oct 4, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Packer, Has Pancheros expanded beyond the local IC area?

I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan

by Kluginator on Oct 4, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Regarding The Burrito Bump

I understand that a focus group deemed it more family appropriate than the “taco flash.”

I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan

by Kluginator on Oct 4, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Until they update it

to the Burrito bump and grind.
Then we lose the PG rating.

"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass

by chitownhawkeye on Oct 4, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Doesn't quite fit but you get the idea. Panchero's locations:

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Oct 4, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's the point here?

Some crappy $20mm franchise operation has stores in Arizona and North Carolina? So everyone in Kinnick has to jump up and down so they can film it and put it in their next 11:59 p.m. tv ad?

There are so many wonderful things about the SUI and Iowa City, that, if you want promotions, should be promoted. And then they would be on TV.

“Oo, wow, Tennesee Williams jump ….” [okay, maybe NSFW].

We play tackle football.

by Bellanca on Oct 4, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

just answering the question

I’m quite in agreeance with your point

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Oct 4, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

More to the point that they have locations everywhere in Iowa

But from your overall persona I have a feeling that anywhere you stand in line to order outside of a sporting venue is deemed unworthy. Also, I assume you don’t pay much attention to live sports coverage or attend many live events because the cross promotional nature of events and coverage is pretty much incessant and thorough. The fact that you find this surprising is, well, surprising.

I’m not defending the Fatty Joint Lift, I loathe it. Just to be clear.

by PackerHawk on Oct 4, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pancheros El Burrito del El Gordo es muy delicioso

I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan

by Kluginator on Oct 4, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I thought they didn't make "El Gordo" anymore.

Has it been reintroduced?

[waxes poetic] Back in my day, if you ate two, they were free.

by Lukateake on Oct 4, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, but it's gin now.

El Gordo Bombay.

Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.

by Give Eddie a Beer on Oct 4, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Clearly...

…you have never had the privilege of raising your hands in an an effort to lift a massive imaginary burrito whilst smiling inanely at a camera guy in hopes of being put on the GIANT TEEVEE!

Seriously, though, I think the lift was immediately unpopular upon arrival at Kinnick. No one likes it.

by Skillet13 on Oct 4, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

It is right up there with the air guitar.

I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan

by Kluginator on Oct 4, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha, none in California, which says a *lot*

That’s cause you’ve got little Taqueria’s on every corner here that are about 1,000,000x better than any frickin’ franchise. I’m even surprised to see the major chains here, because they really can’t compete on taste, convenience and price.

"u r awesome" ~ my daughter

by The Bird Cult on Oct 5, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

People like the reliability of chains

At least in theory. Also, drive thrus. And not leaving their comfort zones (see subject line). But I agree with you on the taquerias thing.

by PackerHawk on Oct 5, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

You have apparently not been to your neighborhood Chipotle

Packed.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Oct 5, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bellanca, Do you know what really cinches my man thong

I have sat in the same section for the past 10 years or so and everytime they do the “I” – “O” – “W” – “A” chear after a score; we always get “O”. Why the hell can’t they let my section shout “W” just once? Man I really envy those “W” people with their smarmy “W” smirking faces. Bastards, that what those “W” people are.

I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan

by Kluginator on Oct 4, 2011 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

They really are better people.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Oct 4, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sob :(

I swear the "robbed a place" was actually not ment as a smart ass remark. I just forgot that he actually robbed a place for a second. ~ justsomehawkeyefan

by Kluginator on Oct 5, 2011 7:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dude, your a VOWEL

They are just a little used letter that happens to be the gang sign for the University of Wisconsin. They are so sad they couldn’t even get their own sound, someone heard the vowel name “U” and thought “Fuck it that sounds great! We should just double it!”

Hold you head, and “O” high – "W"’s wish they could be half the section you guys are.

"Sometimes the truth gets in the way of a good story" - KF

by The Bacon Explosion on Oct 5, 2011 7:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Besides

no one wants to see your O-face

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 5, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

He made two adjustments

1) Have T-Mart throw the ball after halftime to catch WI off guard.

2) Return to the run game that was working in the 1st half after the game was out of control and adjustment 1 exploded in a disastrous 3rd quarter.

by PackerHawk on Oct 4, 2011 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

The sanctimony bowl

I like the ring of that. I hope that it catches on, and when Nebby and O$U play we’ll continue to call it that.

If not, maybe we could call it the douchebag bowl.

Mike

by DrHenryKillinger on Oct 4, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Angerer just crushed Blount.

Chucky just said that “he’s no bigger than I am!”

We play tackle football.

by Bellanca on Oct 3, 2011 8:02 PM CDT reply actions  

This post is missing one thing:

Mention of the glorious, glorious sound of Ohio State fans booing their team as it left the field at halftime.

"Who do you think you are? You’re the son-of-a-bitch that sat at that desk over there and fired Johnny Cash. Let it go down in history that you’re the dumbest son-of-a-bitch I’ve ever met." - Merle Haggard

by ReadingRambler on Oct 3, 2011 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Photos

These are so great! Love the one of the old Bugeater fans – three of them are trying to act cool but the one old geiser with some HUGE work gloves on just is melting into a little pile of bugeatin’ despair… I ALMOST feel sorry for him. And then there is the guy with the cornhat – the picture tells it all…. “Huh?” and then Paul CyClown – seriously, what is the matter with that guy??? He makes Pellini look normal – geeze….. Nice pix – thanks

by GMcNhawkeye on Oct 3, 2011 10:47 PM CDT reply actions  

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