Marvin McNutt: Iowa's Greatest Wide Receiver Ever
by Adam Jacobi on Oct 24, 2011 9:05 AM CDT
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PrintThis was going to be a piece of The Takeaway, but it wasn't going to lead the thing off, so we think it deserves its own post instead.
If Marvin McNutt keeps this pace, he is going to lay waste to Iowa's record book for receiving. Ross talked about this a bit in his recap, and I mentioned it in my Winners/Losers post over at the All-Seeing Eye, but here's the perfect place to flesh it all out. Marvin McNutt already has the Iowa receiving touchdown record by a healthy margin. If this season's production keeps up, he's not just going to be the best statistical receiver Iowa's ever had, he's going to do to Iowa's records what Jerry Rice did to the NFL's (note: this is the only time anybody will ever compare McNutt to Jerry Rice).
Here are McNutt's statistics so far:
2008: 1 catch, 11 yards
2009: 34 catches, 674 yards, 8 TDs
2010: 53 catches, 861 yards, 8 TDs
2011: 41 catches, 757 yards, 8 TDs
Career: 129 catches, 2304 yards, 24 TDs
Right now, McNutt is 7th in total receptions, 2nd in total receiving yards, and obviously tops in touchdowns. If that's not the best receiving performance in Iowa history, we can see that argument, but it's clearly in the top four.
And now let's extrapolate McNutt's production out to a 13-game schedule, and before you automatically call foul on that notion, may we remind you, Minnesota remains on Iowa's schedule, and their DBs come pre-installed with Christmas lights, because they're primed to get LIT UP.
2011 (projected): 76 catches, 1405 yards, 15 TDs
Career (projected): 164 catches, 2952 yards, 31 TDs
If those numbers hold up, McNutt would be second behind Derrell Johnson-Koulianos by nine catches for the career reception mark, he would own the yardage record over DJK by 336 yards, and he would have the touchdown mark by an almost insurmountable 10 TDs.
But the record book is more than career numbers, and if McNutt puts together a season like that this year, that kind of a year would be basically unlike anything Iowa's ever seen. Here are those numbers again, next to the current Iowa single season leaders.
76 catches (Kevin Kasper, 2000, 82)
1405 yards (Keith Chappelle, 1980, 1037)
15 TDs (Maurice Brown, 2002, 11)
Now, here's the most important aspect of these projections: McNutt has not achieved them yet. He actually has to set the records before he deserves the credit for them, so with that we are not going to hail him as the best ever until he makes it happen. The path is there, though, and that is very, very awesome.
(Ed. Note: Iowa's Greatest Wide Receiver and Big Ten Offensive Player of the Week; ol' Marvin is just racking up the plaudits this week. -- RB)
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I think you should add the QB stats in 08
Was it 1/3, 10 yards, 0 td, 1 int?
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by 99playsNAblitzaint1 on Oct 24, 2011 9:12 AM CDT reply actions
He's had at least one passing attempt every year he's played
But, I don’t think he’s had one yet this year….
Nah.
It was incomplete on purpose, just to make opposing DCs think we won’t ever run it again.
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by Bucketochicken on Oct 24, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
If Marvin McNutt keeps up that stat line,
He will go down as the most forgettable Quarterback in Iowa history…
I said I have a DRINKING PROBLEM!!
by bornofclay on Oct 24, 2011 9:32 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
What, you want to pretend like it didn't happen?
55-0, yes Tim, it happened.
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by 99playsNAblitzaint1 on Oct 24, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Have you already forgotten Eric McCollom?
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by SomeJerkPoster on Oct 24, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Cy Phillips is incensed not to be mentioned in this conversation.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
When Marvin switched to WR, I wept...
at all of the wasted “McNutt Sack” jokes I was going to use after his first game under center.
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
Isn't NOT being mentioned
proof positive that you’re the most forgettable QB in Iowa history? It’s kind of like an ancient Zen koan.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
The fact that he has done this while playing with DJK (my favorite WR of all time, sorry Timmy) for 2 years is amazing. The hawks have a great opportunity to finish the year strong. Good luck Marv!
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by Gustav on Oct 24, 2011 9:21 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Can we get a livestream McNutt family cam during all games?
I know this is out of your control, but that perfectly timed interview and reaction by his parents was a highlight of the game for me.
by PackerHawk on Oct 24, 2011 9:21 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I liked his sister's reaction more.
She covered her face for about 5 seconds and then went to the “I’m having hot flashes”, self-fanning motion.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Oct 24, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
True
That’s why we need to have the camera zoomed in just enough to get the whole #7 section of 5-6 people.
She's super cool.
At the kids practice I stood in concessions line with her and their little brother (I assumed). They were both wearing Marvin’s stuff from previous years (the boy had his Orange Bowl jersey on, with the patch and whatnot).
You can’t mistake them either. She (while being a good looking girl or whatever) looks EXACTLY like Marvin in the face. They could be twins (though I’m not sure how that would work).
She had Marvin’s low-key demeanor, but she was also super-stoked on everything. They both seemed to be having an excellent time, and I think they’d gotten a dose of The Iowa Family thing that goes on between fans, players, and the family of players.
It was all pretty cool.
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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Oct 25, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm fine with calling him the greatest right now
Even if he doesn’t keep up the current pace or even break the career yards record (although I have no idea how he won’t do that now), he’d have still be very close despite only really playing receiver for three years (he was moved halfway through his redshirt freshman season, so that doesn’t really count). He’s already had a better season than DJK ever did, and there’s still 5 or 6 games left.
I thought he was moved during bowl prep
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by 99playsNAblitzaint1 on Oct 24, 2011 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
No, he was still a QB at the start of 2008, and there were a lot of people who expected him to win the job
He actually played QB for a little bit at the end of one the early season bodybag games. He didn’t move until later that year after Stanzi had established himself and the clear starter going forward, and then only played at the end of the Indiana blowout.
To clarify, that would be bowl prep at the end of the 2008 season
since we didn’t go to a bowl in 2007. I thought he changed over after the 2008 regular season when it became obvious that Ricky was the man.
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by 99playsNAblitzaint1 on Oct 24, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions
No it was in the middle of 2008
The pass he caught against Indiana was as a receiver, it wasn’t a trick play or something.
Also we still sort of had bowl prep in 07, despite not going to a bowl
We were eligible so we still got to have the extra practices and stuff at the end of the year while we waited to be officially uninvited.
Ah. Didn't know which game it was.
Indiana’s been good to him.
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by 99playsNAblitzaint1 on Oct 24, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
He is to Indiana football what James Hardy was to us, basically.
Hardy
2005: 12 catches, 203 yards, 1 TD
2006: 8 catches, 104 yards, 3 TD
2007: 4 catches, 113 yards, 1 TD
TOTAL: 24 catches, 320 yards, 5 TD
McNutt
2008: 1 catch, 11 yards, 0 TD
2009: 4 catches, 155 yards, 1 TD
2010: 6 catches, 126 yards, 1 TD
2011: 6 catches, 184 yards, 3 TD
TOTAL: 17 catches, 476 yards, 5 TD
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Sans endzone felching.
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by Bucketochicken on Oct 24, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.
From a stats standpoint, to do what he has in, essentially, two and a half years, is kind of mind-boggling. It’s always dangerous to play the “what if” game, but if he had four full years at receiver… hot damn.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Well, he was a redshirt freshman at Iowa with some pretty well-established guys ahead of him.
I can see him getting time enough for 10-20 more catches, but not much more.
meh
Not just for the stats
McNutt is the best receiver we have ever had because of the way he catches balls. Where as Timmy D, and DJK benefitted from there blazing speed and well timed routes, Marvin has had a lot more TD catches where Vandenberg says, “Here, go do this yourself.”
Right?!?!
I’ve never seen the fade ran at Iowa with such perfection. He and Vandy have a great connection. I wonder is Keenan Davis plays the angry girlfriend role?
Just beat jNW.
by One_ill_KevinJ on Oct 24, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Obligatory comment about use of the word "blazing."
/Chazz’d
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by Bucketochicken on Oct 24, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Or speed.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Oct 24, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
To compare anybody's speed in pads to Timmy D is blasphemous
I’ll hear your Denard comparisons, but nobody in an Iowa uniform ever.
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by therealCatnuts on Oct 24, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Of course he was
Bob ran a 4.36 at the combine and played even faster in pads.
I just wanna see Kirk Ferentz cry.
McNutt is pretty quick after the catch.
He has crazy long legs, something little TimTom didn’t have. I think he was maybe 5’8" in cleats and helmet. Marvin can cover so much ground in one stride that if he isn’t faster he sure looks it sometimes.
by Carfino'sWay on Oct 24, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
"TimTom"??
Is this a pejorative? Cause if you are making jest at Timmy D then that is just crazy talk.
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Funny thing
on McNutt’s first TD, I rewound to watch it again. My DVR speed made it look like he was gliding the whole way (backwards), and then I ran it forward at the first FF speed and looked like he was gliding again. It was really cool to watch.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I think you can also throw in other stats, too.
Like yards per catch and yards after catch, things like that. I don’t have the numbers, but I’m certain that McNutt is elite in those numbers, too.
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by bornofclay on Oct 24, 2011 9:36 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
One can only imagine what Marvin's numbers would have been
had he played for the Hawkeyes 25 years ago when Long and Hartlieb were averaging 300 yards passing per game. It really is remarkable what #7 has achieved in a Ferentz offense that has viewed the pass play as our third or fourth option.
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
I think pass play is the second option
run, run, run, run (1 play, done a bunch of times), play action pass (2nd option).
People say this, but a bunch of the guys at the top of Iowa’s receiving record books played under Ferentz
Yeah.
Assuming Marvin maintains something close to his current pace, three of the top five seasons in receiving yards will belong to KF guys (McNutt, Kasper, Brown). On the other hand, four of the top five passing yards seasons are still Fry guys (Hartlieb x2, Long x2). If he maintains HIS current pace, Vandy may just crack that list this year.
But Stanzi’s 3000 yard season last year is easily the high water mark for an Iowa QB under KF, yet still nowhere near Long in 85 (3297) or Hartlieb in 88 (3738). Right now, the top receivers from 85 and 88 check in at 8 and 9 on the single season receiving yards chart at around 900 yards (Happel in 85, Harberts in 88). I assume the QBs just spread the ball around a lot more back then.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
You have a point, with Marvin in at #1 then Kirk puts 8 guys in the top 31 spots but only 2 in the top 10.
Receiving (min. 1,000 yards)
Name_____________No-Yards____Avg.____TDs______Years
1. Tim Dwight_________139-2,271____16.3____21_____1994-97
2. Danan Hughes______146-2,216____15.2____21_____1989-92
3. Ronnie Harmon_____146-2,045____14.0____10_____1982-85
4. Kevin Kasper________157-1,974____12.6____11_____1997-00
5. Dave Moritz_________109-1,912____17.5____9______1980-83
6. Kahlil Hill__________152-1,892____12.4____15_____1998-01
7. Clinton Solomon_____118-1,864____15.8____14__2002, 04-05
8. Harold Jasper_______107-1,863____17.4____8______1991-94
9. Quinn Early_________106-1,845____17.4____13_____1984-87
10. Marv Cook__________126-1,825____14.5____6______1986-88
11. Travis Watkins______108-1,765____16.3____10_____1986-89
12. Bill Happel_________112-1,685____15.0____10_____1982-85
13. Al Bream___________114-1,642____14.4____7______1966-68
14. Ed Hinkel__________135-1,588____11.8____15_____2002-05
15. Maurice Brown______84-1,515_____18.0____15_____2000-03
16. Karl Noonan________102-1,478____14.5____4______1963-65
17. Scott Chandler______117-1,467____12.5____10_____2003-06
18. Robert Smith_______69-1,438_____20.8____16_____1983-86
19. Andy Brodell________94-1,422_____15.1____9______2005-08
20. Keith Chappelle_____86-1,377_____16.0____9______1979-80
21. Kerry Reardon_______81-1,361_____16.8____11_____1968-70
22. Dallas Clark_________81-1,281_____15.8____8______2001-02
23. Bill Schultz_________57-1,272_____22.3____9______1973-76
24. Scott Slutzker_______95-1,261_____13.3____5______1992-95
25. Alan Cross__________96-1,259_____13.1____8______1989-92
26. Mike Flagg__________86-1,187_____13.8____13_____1984-87
27. Deven Harberts______66-1,170_____17.7____8______1987-88
28. Jon Filloon_________80-1,164_____14.6____3______1988-91
29. Scot Helverson______84-1,149_____13.7____13_____1983-86
30. D. Johnson-Koulianos__82-1,121_____13.7_____5______2007-08
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
That list is way outdated
DJK, as you might recall should be on the top now, and it doesn’t even have McNutt.
Also Kasper and Hill both played under Ferentz
You are correct about the out of datedness but I did not include kids tha ferentz inherited.
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
One caveat to this list
which is under nobody’s control but suggests the Ferentz himself may not be as responsible for WR success: Hinkel and Solomon saw significant success during the ’04 season where the entire offense was essentially passing exclusively.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Oct 24, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Who here knew
Scott m-effin Chandler had better stats than Dallas Clark? Awesome
Well, I don't know I'd say better stats necessarily
He played for 4 years and Clark had 2. If Clark even stays for his senior year, he probably has more catches, yards, and TDs than Chandler. Plus Clark has a higher YPC.
Scott Chandler was awesome
It sucks that so many people have reduced his career to a handful of dropped passes early in his career. He was a huge weapon for us and is the best receiving TE we’ve had since Clark (Moeaki had more potential, but injuries got in the way).
not to mention
he actually fielded punts for us, some fair catches but sometimes he actually tried to advance the ball.
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by The Bacon Explosion on Oct 25, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
So he's already got a step up on Micah Hyde
(CATCH THE FUCKING BALL MICAH HYDE)
Scott Chandler fielded punts?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
This was my reaction as well
What am I missing here? I have no recollection of Scott Chandler fielding punts….or any tight end for any team ever, for that matter.
Chandler never fielded punts at Iowa
He did catch a few for Buffalo during his brief NFL career.
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
brief??? he's still playing
Or didn’t you pay attention to week 1? Are you thinking of Nathan chandler?
meh
I've only reduced his career
to lining up offsides late in his career.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Oct 25, 2011 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
That call still infuriates me.
That was a fucking 14 pt. swing. Refs don’t botch that and a shitty Iowa team absolutely smokes Texas in their own backyard.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Oct 25, 2011 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
It was also the game
that accounted for 50% of the good Brodell did in an Iowa uniform.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Oct 25, 2011 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Andy Brodell is also unfairly maligned by people with bad memories
But I’ve already had that argument in this thread
Praise to coach Campbell.
Seems like his guys are reaching that next level.
by 2LastNameWideReceiver on Oct 24, 2011 9:45 AM CDT reply actions
Yes
Any discussion of the Iowa receiving corps in the past several years deserves a nod to Campbell. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the receivers got better after he came over from Michigan. Thank you Michigan fans for chasing out Carr and sending Soup our way.
Absolutely. His impact on this program has been a huge positive.
It has taken up the slack of our diminished running game (along with good QB’s like Stanzi and Vandy).
by HawkeyeRecon on Oct 24, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Co-Offensive Players of the Week
Oct. 24, 2011
Marvin McNutt, Iowa
Sr., WR, St. Louis, Mo./Hazelwood Central
• Set the Iowa career record for touchdown receptions as part of a three-touchdown performance against Indiana on Saturday
• Scored on touchdown receptions of 80, 28 and 24 yards, bringing his career total to 24, passing the school record of 21 set by former Hawkeyes Tim Dwight (1994-97)and Danan Hughes (1989-92)
• Finished the game with six receptions for a career-high 184 yards
• Claims his first career Big Ten weekly honor
• Last Iowa Offensive Player of the Week: Ricky Stanzi (Oct. 18, 2010)
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
Sorry, I copied that word for word from
the Big Ten webpage. I hope this link will help mitigate my error.
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
Big Ten webpage also had an error
Seems they’ve corrected it… James Vandenberg won Offensive POTW in September for leading the comeback vs. Pitt.
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Oh noes
Isn’t this a curse or something?
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by 99playsNAblitzaint1 on Oct 24, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Wow, the year 1037 was a very productive passing year
Chappelle had 1980 receiving y… oh wait, nevermind.
Only more impressive when you consider the fact that they used human heads as footballs...
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by bornofclay on Oct 24, 2011 10:11 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Congrats to McNutt
He is another guy that, in true Iowa spirit, was brought to campus at one position, was switched and has excelled. Gotta think that teams eventually will start doubling him and daring Vandy to beat them using KMM (is that the accepted shortening?) and Davis. I’m suprised it hasn’t happened yet, although jNW and Indiana aren’t exactly known for their excellent defense.
"No I'm not going to 'limber up'. You ever see a lion stretching before it takes down a gazelle?"
Don't forget Davis with almost 500 yards receiving and 4 TD catches already.
Vandy has a number of targets and has used them. Throw in Derby at TE and the Cambus and Coker out of the backfield and I say, go ahead and double team Marvin.
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
Derby is actually a pretty good receiver
he has not been targeted by Vandy much but he has done a pretty good job of actuallty catching balls thrown to him. On Saturday he caught a big third down ball that was rifled into pretty tight coverage.
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
And he dropped at least one sure first down at PSU when we really really needed to sustain a drive
and maybe another, but I can’t be sure
so did other receivers
and then of course Davis drops that ball at ISU when we needed the first down.
Drops are part of the game, they just stand out more when drops happen in important situations. Marvin even dropped one agains Indiana last Saturday, it just wasn’t in a critical situation.
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by Bloodpunch's Barbasol on Oct 25, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
True, but in the passing game, McNutt is by far our most reliable weapon.
The emergence of Davis this season has been huge and we could see him getting a ton of looks as teams try to double 7. Hopefully Vandenberg doesn’t try to force things to McNutt, though. With McNutt’s size and speed, even doubling him won’t be easy and he’ll still get his touches.
"No I'm not going to 'limber up'. You ever see a lion stretching before it takes down a gazelle?"
Vandy has done a pretty good job of not forcing things ala Stanzi 2009
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
He's also gotten lucky
there have been at least two horrendous VDB throws the past few weeks where, had the the DB not dropped the ball it was a guaranteed Pick Six
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
He's really bad about floating out routes
He had one last week to Davis that would have been a Pick-6 if Indiana wasn’t terrible. Stanzi did the same thing. The arm-strength just isn’t there.
Marvin's up there
though I won’t proclaim anything until the end of the season. The thing I love about him, though, is how smooth and effortless he makes it look. That does set him apart. I hope he keeps it up so we can proclaim him the best ever.
DJK played with Stanzi learning and was used, I think, as more of a possession, mid-distance receiver, though maybe he did go as deep as often but the QB just didn’t get the ball there. (VDB has made some beautiful deep throws this year). DJK also had to share with McNutt and good TEs. Not as disciplined a route runner as McNutt, but still a great receiver at Iowa. And maybe, what Mc Nutt is doing is what Ferentz thought DJK could do with some self-discipline.
Yet, for all the guys I look at on that sheet, one midway down the stat sheet is the one I think of most when I watch McNutt. Maybe its because of all the deep throws, but I haven’t seen so many post or fly patterns work since Robert Smith. Hayden had guys like Billy Happel run the crossing routes, Smith was “i’ll run and you get it to me.” Of course, Long obliged. He and C.J. Jones remind me of what McNutt is doing on the big plays.
Then again, what do I know? I’m getting older and though clearly not the best, my favorite remains Dave Moritz.
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Long to Moritz 70+ yards to beat Ohio State 20-14
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by privatejoker on Oct 24, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Dave used to joke about how slow he was
And that TD RAC/YAC was probably closer to 100 because he had to zig zag all over the field to keep from getting tackled. Awesome play :)
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by The Bird Cult on Oct 24, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
top overall? dunno
top five? without a doubt
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Oct 24, 2011 11:01 AM CDT reply actions
The one thing about McNutt
that makes me hesitate to call him the best ever is that he seems to drop a fair number of the easy passes.
His ability to make the difficult catch look easy is astounding, but I wish he wouldn’t drop, for example, the three yard out when he’s wide open.
Still, he’s absolutely in the discussion.
by The Naked Bootleg on Oct 24, 2011 11:12 AM CDT reply actions
Pretty sure Marvin feels the same way.
Everything I read after the game pointed to the feeling that Marvin really didn’t like the two drops he had and there were a few mistakes he wanted to polish up.
by EnergizerHawk on Oct 24, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Every receiver does this once and awhile
McNutt’s just stand out more to you because they’re recent. He’ll drop the occasional pass but it’s never been a serious issue.
McNutt rarely drops easy ones.
So much so that I’ve been extremely surprised when he does drop a ball that hits his hands.
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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Oct 25, 2011 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Vandy throws a beautiful fade. That is all.
Nips are perky for the rest of the year, and Davis/Vandy in 2012.
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by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Oct 24, 2011 11:26 AM CDT reply actions
In the offseason
if Vandy can learn to a) read his blitz packages better and b) check down to secondary receivers quicker (or at least not stare at his primary target) he can be a top-5 quarterback nationally. I don’t feel like I’m exaggerating at all.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Oct 24, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Word is Rudock
is going to beat out Vandy next season for the starting job.
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
Hahahahahah
Oh wow, I lol’d at this one.
Vandy would have to be, I don’t know, like Bolden or something for that to happen. I do look forward to seeing Rudock play in a few games next year though.
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by 99playsNAblitzaint1 on Oct 24, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Hmmmm...
IMO we drop a couple to the Michigan “Schools” and that would be more than a rumor. Or if we drop ones we shouldn’t. angry fist-shaking @ Joe Pa-
by Harrison Cougars on Oct 24, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
If Vandy plays bad
then you can make an argument. However, he has played very, very well. Sure he isn’t perfect. He takes some sacks. He does make a lot of good throws though, and he makes few game-changing mistakes. He doesn’t throw the ball 10 yards in front of his receiver, or always to the guys in white even when he’s on the road. Instead, he completes 12 of 16 for 253 yards, 4 TD’s, 0 INT’s, and a QB rating of 290 and there’s a discussion about benching him.
Even if Rudock is BETTER than Long in the long run, being a backup behind a good QB for another year isn’t going to kill him or us. We can ease him into the role in gargbage time (as long as our D isn’t a dumpster fire next year). If Vandy keeps progressing, let him lead the team as a senior, go to the NFL, then we can start to work on Rudock’s NFL resume.
We seem to have one of the best passing QB’s we’ve seen in a long time in Vandenberg. Let’s enjoy watching him while he’s here. Rudock’s time will come.
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by 99playsNAblitzaint1 on Oct 24, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We need to be careful
considering sacks to be bad plays. Don’t get me wrong, they’re terrible plays for your offense, but for him to take the sack is better than throwing up a duck on a prayer. I hope he can get to the point where he recognizes them and throws the ball away, or even better, steps up and avoids them, but as long as he doesn’t fumble, it could be a lot worse.
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by chitownhawkeye on Oct 24, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree
The point I was trying to make is that Vandenberg rarely has negative game-changing plays, like throwing a pick 6 to avoid a sack. I’m darn happy with how he’s playing and see zero reason to go with someone else, even someone like Rudock that I’ve been looking forward to for a year now.
I can’t wait for installments of the Chronicles of Rudock:
I suppose it’s time to change that helmet though.
BOOM 4-3 cover 2! Deal with that!
by 99playsNAblitzaint1 on Oct 24, 2011 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Tanner Miller's pick 6 is proof positive of this sentiment
As is the Hyde pick 6 against Missouri last year.
Rudock would have to be the second coming of Chuck Long
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Oct 24, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Forget Chuck Long
Rudock has more upside than Jake Christensen.
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I heard it was Gunner Kiel
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by HoyaGoon on Oct 25, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Recurring rec for recurring theme
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by therealCatnuts on Oct 25, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
SHIIIIIT....
The only way that Rudock beats out JVB for starting next year is if JVB has a Ryan Leaf style meltdown.
JVB has played extremely well this year….16 TD’s to 4 INT with a 156.7 rating…. Only Russell Wilson at Wisky has better stats than JVB is putting up this year so far..
by FlyingDutchman1 on Oct 25, 2011 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
What you are saying then
is that JVB has room for improvement. Bring on Rudock!
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I will miss #7
Is it too early to hypothesize where he goes in the draft?
by Black&Gold.Forever on Oct 24, 2011 11:42 AM CDT reply actions
I would say he's probably a 2nd/3rd round guy.
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Depends on how fast he runs.
He’ll have the credentials as far as production, but they look a lot at times for wide receivers a lot.
meh
Jerry Rice was never clocked above a 4.6
Which is all the evidence I’ll ever need that 40 times for wide receivers is just a hair above stupid.
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Above = Below
In this particular statement – he was never FASTER than a 4.6 (and 4.71 at the combine)
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Right, but...
Rice broke NCAA records, not just school records, and was in the Heisman race despite playing at a I-AA school.
"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull." - W.C. Fields
Totally agreed
Just using Rice as a prime example that speed =/= talent at the WR position, particularly in the NFL There are LOTS of other good examples too.
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Yes.
The WR class is pretty darn deep this year. Blackmon at Oregon State, Hilton at FIU, Floyd at ND, Criner at AZ, Jones at UNC, etc. A pile receivers with measurables similar to McNutt (the 6’3"+, 4.5-4.6 forty guys), most of whom are having very productive seasons.
In order for McNutt to go in the first half of the draft, he’s going to have to continue having 100+ yard, 2+ TD days AND manage some elite measurables at the combine.
"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull." - W.C. Fields
Yes however...
you’re forgetting one thing…. coaches/player personnel guys in the NFL fucking LOVE Iowa players. They love the work ethic, they love the strength and conditioning of Iowa players, they love the solid fundamentals Iowa players come in the league with and Ferentz is one of the most respected college coaches in the game today.
That gives McNutt an edge over alot of those guys right off the bat.
by FlyingDutchman1 on Oct 25, 2011 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Iowa players sure
Iowa receivers? Not so much. I think he’ll probably go in the third round or so (maybe higher if he’s faster than I think he is), but he’s not going to get the Iowa bump than an offensive lineman or linebacker would.
Or DL. Or CB.
the Iowa bump than an offensive lineman or linebacker would
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by therealCatnuts on Oct 26, 2011 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions
If...
McNutt keeps up with the 2-3 TD, 100+ yard receiving per game from here on out—he’ll easily be a 2nd rounder.
The NFL is FULL of guys who can run a 4.4 40 and can make a catch…what teams CRAVE though on offense are WR’s who can bring the whole package…good speed, great hands, outstanding body control, and run sharp routes. McNutt does all that.
by FlyingDutchman1 on Oct 25, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
The premise is difficult because that's an insane pace to keep up
But I’d take that bet in a heartbeat. Only one WR drafted in the entire KF era: Kasper in the 6th round. 2nd round is not going to happen unless he posts a 4.42 at the Combine, which also is not happening.
Go McNutt, get drafted at any spot and let me cheer you on at the next level
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by therealCatnuts on Oct 25, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
At least we know he won't go to the Raiders now.
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by BStylin Hawkye on Oct 26, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
You sure? They traded, potentially, 2 first-round pick for Carson Freaking Palmer
And that was after Al Davis passed. Don’t put it past them.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
I sure hope those Minnesota DBs Are Going Greener
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Great Achievement Marvin!!
Was really proud to see the kid shine.
Recruiting question… That Dorial Green-Beckham kid, WR out of MO, you guys might have heard of him… ESPN says he has an offer from Iowa and all interest is equal. Scout says he doesn’t… Anyone know the real case? I personally think Scout hates Iowa and have called them out on that crap several times… They do it again and I will call them out again. I am lucky my work is chill and can curse at them freely if they do something stupid like not putting one of our new guys up on the ticker within two days, punk-ass bastards…
Oh, Floyd Coming Home!!
Go Hawks!
by Harrison Cougars on Oct 24, 2011 12:00 PM CDT reply actions
This is the rare instance where Scout is correct
He has an offer, but he’s not interest in Iowa at all.
Also in general Scout isn’t biased against Iowa, they’re just not very good. ESPN is also really bad, at least when it comes to reporting recruiting news. Lately 24/7 has been the best Iowa site for breaking recruiting news, and Rivals is also generally fairly reliable.
Thank You, Sir for clearing that up.
A rare instance indeed.
Gotta work, have a great day Hawkeye Fans!!
by Harrison Cougars on Oct 24, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Creepy
It's so sad how a family can be torn apart by something as simple as a pack of wild dogs.
by FiveSecondRuleChef on Oct 25, 2011 4:03 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I wonder if
After Marvin scores a TD his defender goes back to the bench and is razzed by his team mates for getting “McNutted”?
It's so sad how a family can be torn apart by something as simple as a pack of wild dogs.
by FiveSecondRuleChef on Oct 25, 2011 4:05 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
and if Marvin ends up making porn movies
will the person assigned to assist him be called a Fluffer McNutter?
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if Marvin ends up making porn movies
I doubt you’ll see his family as excited as they were on Saturday.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Oct 25, 2011 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I haven't seen this mentioned..
One thing I have always noticed about McNutt that just sets him apart from many of the other great Iowa WR’s like Timmy Dwight, Danan Hughes, etc…is that McNutt has absolutely amazing body control.
For example..in last week’s game—JVB threw a ball late in the 2nd to McNutt that was well behind him, yet, McNutt was able to twist his body around, keep his feet in bounds, and make the catch, then get a huge gain and nearly take it in for 6.
Not to mention that McNutt has always had a knack for being able to outjump defenders in the endzone and make catches over their heads. You get the ball near his hands..and he will go out and grab that ball out of the air.
If McNutt keeps up this level of play the rest of the season—you can bet that an NFL team will be more than happy to write him out a very big paycheck next year for his services…
by FlyingDutchman1 on Oct 25, 2011 4:04 PM CDT reply actions
Sure it does..
But McNutt’s got hops too..he’s scored more than his share of TD’s that way….Dude has got a steel trap for hands. He climbs the ladder and snatches that ball out of the air.
by FlyingDutchman1 on Oct 25, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
See...
that amazing catch he had at Arizona last year. His hips seemed like they were head-high on the defender who was trying to stop him (I made an inappropriate joke at the time about McNuttin in the defender’s ear hole before making a catch).
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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Oct 25, 2011 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
That joke is still funny a year later.
There’s something about those ear holes that makes it very funny
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by therealCatnuts on Oct 25, 2011 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
That's funny.
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by Eyeheartfreedumb on Oct 27, 2011 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions
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