VIDEO: A Walk Down Iowa-Indiana Memory Lane (1982)
by RossWB on Oct 20, 2011 3:04 PM CDT
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PrintNot a ton of options for Iowa-Indiana week, unless you want to dredge up the painful recent past (2010) or the schizophrenic recent past (2009). Fortunately, our old friend The Hawkeye Historian dug deep into the archives and pulled out a 1982 game featuring the Hawkeyes and the Hoosiers. Let's take a gander at it, shall we?
A few thoughts...
- Lee Corso! In a track suit!
- Stand-up tight ends! That never fails to get a smile out of me.
- Chuck Long running the option! If Chuck could run the option, I think any Iowa QB could.
- Big, big sleeves, just flapping in the wind.
- Larry Station was a beast in the middle of the Iowa defense.
- Eddie Phillips and Norm Granger were quite a potent running back combination in this game.
- 5:20 -- More like Babe LOLfenberg.
- Aviators, white pants, lady-slaying 'stache... yeah, this was Hayden at his peak.
- Reggie Roby had a punt blocked?! BLASPHEMY.
- That was some high-quality goalline defense by Iowa. I think Indiana might have had a negative red zone scoring percentage for this game.
- Those camera angles for field goals and extra points are awful.
- J.C. Love Jordan?! What a fantastic name.
- What a tackle by #22 for Iowa at the end of the game.
And, what the hell, what's Indiana week without a look at Tyler Sash's amazing pinball pick-six?
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It really is.
I need a .gif of that.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Maybe he got stung by a bee.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I am actually a pretty big soccer fans . . .
Wish officials would hand out automatic red cards for obvious dives like that. It really is a great sport outside of the imbeciles that dive.
Actually, is that the Chinese team?
I think he got round-housed and you just couldn’t see it.
Putting Ponder in isn't the question, it's the answer.
SKOL!!!
I've seen it before.
I think it was Brazil and Ivory Coast.
"Don't you'uns think this outlaw bit's done got out of hand?"
by ReadingRambler on Oct 20, 2011 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
The sad thing is
that this is not even one the worst examples of dives in European futbol (or what ever the hell they call it.)
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
That's those FIFA '12 impact physics!
"Hi, I'm Bob Executive. Which way to business?"
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Oct 21, 2011 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions
And who says your can't wear white after LaborDay?
Putting Ponder in isn't the question, it's the answer.
SKOL!!!
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Oct 20, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Those early 80s teams were damn good
Could’ve had another Rose Bowl year or two out of that period were it not for injuries (especially 83 and 84). Kind of reinforces Hayden’s thought that Iowa’s starters often stacked up well with the Michigan’s and Ohio State’s of the era but couldn’t match up with overall depth if the injury bug hit us.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
That's been true for a lot of the KF teams, too.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
2009 was a perfect example.
I don’t know if they beat tOSU, but they definitely beat jNW if they don’t lose Stanzi. And maybehe’s nothing different other than they finish 4th or 5th in the final rankingsinstead of 7th. But still… Maybe they do beat tOSU and at least claim a fictional national title.
Iowa still needs everything to go perfect to win a national title.
meh
I’m stunned and slightly amused whenever I see Chuck Long running.
"Don't you'uns think this outlaw bit's done got out of hand?"
He was an option QB in high school
in fact, he was rather lightly recruited because his passing stats were virtually non-existent
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Chuck Long
could do anything he wanted.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Oct 20, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Except head coach
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
by Kluginator on Oct 20, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
pained rec
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Oct 20, 2011 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Indeed.
"Don't you'uns think this outlaw bit's done got out of hand?"
by ReadingRambler on Oct 20, 2011 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
And
be a successful starting QB for the Lions… man those games were painful to watch…
by FlyingDutchman1 on Oct 20, 2011 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
has anyone?
six games do not make a season/career/etc…
"Sometimes the truth gets in the way of a good story" - KF
by The Bacon Explosion on Oct 21, 2011 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions
One thing I noticed
the pads they wore in the pants, especially the ones to protect the tail bone, made it look like players had hemroids.
Hail to Kirk Ferentz the First and to the "Iowa Magna Carta"
TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin
I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! - Jim Zabel
by Bloodpunch's Barbasol on Oct 20, 2011 3:36 PM CDT reply actions
Was thinking that, too. Somewhere around the 6th minute, I believe.
We still wore those in the late-90’s in high school. We weren’t backwards then, but we weren’t on the cutting edge either. That was when the best padding was still the biggest. They’ve come along way since then, coming up with more compact but better protection. When I was young, remember having to redo my practice pants to my game pants every weekend. Had to weave the nylong belt in between the slots on the pants and the pads. I think in high school, and I know in college, we had the beginnings of the compression shorts that could hold everything but the knee pads, which most people hated anyway.
meh
coccyx
pretty sure there was an emphasis back then of protecting one’s coccyx
/yeah, coccyx
Talking out of turn... That's a paddlin’. Looking out the window... That's a paddlin’. Staring at my sandals... That's a paddling. Paddling the school canoe...ooh, you better believe that's a paddlin’.
by SantosL.Halper on Oct 20, 2011 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
break or dislocate that once
and you will completely understand the pad
"Sometimes the truth gets in the way of a good story" - KF
by The Bacon Explosion on Oct 21, 2011 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions
This video got me thinking about coaches...
Indiana is like the anti-Iowa for coaches. Corso, et al seemed to use their Indiana coaching stints as springboards to new careers or unemployment while (as everyone knows) the coaches on that 1982 Iowa sideline reads like a whose who of NCAA head coaches…Barry Alverez, Kirk Ferentz, Dan McCarney, Del Miller, Don Patterson and Bill Snyder.
"Make it tasteful, but dongier" - Blackheartnopants
Roby Block
My second trip to Ohio Stadium featured Reggie punting it into the butt of his blocker. God I hate Ohio State (and the way they kill us on special teams).
Norm was a lot of fun to watch in person. :)
I had the good fortune of being an undergrad @ Iowa from 81-84 and a grad student from 85-87. Awesome time to be an Iowa football fan.
Never *question* Bruce Dickinson!
by The Bird Cult on Oct 20, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Chuck Long with a couple normal drop backs!
I miss the ridiculous 800 tiny backwards steps.
Seriously, people: LEE CORSO IN A TRACK SUIT
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Oct 20, 2011 4:24 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
He's not wearing a giant mascot head?
C’mon photoshop people.
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Oct 20, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
That's because NO ONE KNOWS WHAT A HOOSIER IS, DAMMIT.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Thank God it's never come up on Gameday
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Oct 20, 2011 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a conspiracy. The world axiously awaits what a Hoosier is.
Putting Ponder in isn't the question, it's the answer.
SKOL!!!
And never will
"He lowballed us and said: 'Take it or leave it. If you don't take our offer, you are rolling the dice.' I said: 'Consider them rolled.' " - Jim "Huge Brass Balls" Delaney
by ClaybornSmash on Oct 20, 2011 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh yeah
Or is it possible that a Hoosier is just a giant Lee Corso head?
"'Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, 'If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Caroll, Alice Through the Looking Glass
by chitownhawkeye on Oct 20, 2011 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I still think we would have won the Rose in '86
if Station didn’t get hurt, no way Ball would have put up those yardage numbers if Station was in.
Two thoughts after watching the '82 highlights
1) Having way too much trouble with Indiana isn’t just a recent thing. See the 1987 or 88 game they always show on BTN where Hartlieb throws for 500 yards and loses. Or the back to back losses to IU in 93 and 94, I believe.
2) By 1985, fans of other Big 10 teams must have been cursing aloud wondering how in the hell Long, Harmon, and Station were still at Iowa. That’s a phenomenon usually reserved for hoops (Cardinal, Earl, Settles, etc.)
I imagine Greenway and Hodge felt that way in the early Aughts.
“What, those guys are STILL there?!”
Or Clayborn, Ballard, etc. last year.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Mike Stoops is also in there
He is seen jumping around after INT at 9:56… of course with his full name on jersey
by Hurricane Ferentz on Oct 20, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Shit.
Now I’m sad. There really can’t be a sentence with “1985” “Long” and “Harmon” that doesn’t fill my entire being with a sense of tragedy.
by Third Generation Hawk on Oct 21, 2011 2:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Wife and I were at the '09 Indiana game
What a strange day that was. Kinnick was deathly quiet for the first three quarters and then BOOM…inexplicable Sash pick 6, floodgates opened, etc.
That's the strangest game I've seen in Kinnick
There have been some wild games in Kinnick in recent seasons – some of the early losses in the KF era where Iowa stalled inside the 10, 02 Purdue, 01 and 03 Michigan, the oddities of the jNW series, any game from late 2004 – but the 09 IU game takes the cake.
Windy but we kept running deep routes into said wind. (nice work from Kenneth O’Keefe)
Ridiculous number of turnovers for both teams.
Officiating controversy.
STANZI BALL through 3 quarters, followed by the re-birth.
The running game waking up.
A great line from Mark Jones on the Sash pick (Trick or Treat, IOWA CITY!!!!!!)
A great day all-around.
Comedy is where the mind goes to tickle itself.
have a friend
who is a bit of an annoying fan of anther B10 team and places bets on games – he took IU with the 16 or so points. He was smugly walking around through three quarters knowing that there was no way Iowa could pull this one out and even if they did no way they could cover. I still enjoy reminding him of that game…
"Sometimes the truth gets in the way of a good story" - KF
by The Bacon Explosion on Oct 21, 2011 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Great old footage, lots of memories.
Ron Hawley, who picked off that last pass, is most famous as the guy who knocked over the goal-post at MSU.
Isn’t that Bobby Stoops as #41 out there? Mike was #3, I think. Odd choice for a number for him.
JC Love was a VERY highly touted HS player, when he came to Iowa he’d added the “Jordan” to his name, but never really panned out, kind of like a Willie Guy sort of thing. But at the time, landing him was huge.
Long ran more this season than any other. When he got hurt in 1984, I think that put the clamps on that for good, but even in 1983 I don’t recall QB draws and the option much from him.
Norm Granger was GOOD. Man, I’d forgotten how good he was! I think Brad Rodgers has that kind of potential. (Or is it Rogers?) As I’ve said before, Hayden often platooned 3-4 guys at RB, anathema to what KF does these days.
Did IU’s QB and main WR (Gunn) play in the pros? Their names are oddly familiar.
I’m surprised IU almost beat that Iowa team. I think it’s just hard to play away in the Big Ten. Next year, we slaughtered them in the famous Eff-You Sam Wyche game, I recall, when we scored on a TD pass to end the game 49-3, or something like that.
"Apparently, riding Joe Paterno like a small horse is FROWNED UPON IN THIS ESTABLISHMENT!"
Mike Stoops appears to be #2
After the Hawley pick, he runs to the sidelines at around the 10:30 mark and gets mobbed by the Hawkeyes on the sidelines. One of them is Mike Stoops with his full name on his back and what appears to be #2.
by Josh Timmers on Oct 20, 2011 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh man. That f-you Wyche game is cringe-worthy in retrospect. I was there, and remember the backup QB calling a time out with seconds left so they could score. At the gun, Wyche pulled his team to the middle of the field, gathered them together, and did something like “Remember what these guys did to you” move. It being Indiana, I don’t think it carried over.
The googles are failing me
Explain to me again why its referred to as “Eff-you Sam Wyche” game. Did Hayden dislike Wyche?
All I’ve found is an old Gazette article explaining that the refs seemed to have it in for Iowa, and Hayden trotted out his second and third stringers and let them “do their jobs”. in the QB’s case, that’s throwing the ball.
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Oct 21, 2011 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions
At the time, winning was pretty damn new. I’m probably making this next part up, but this is the way I remember it: I can’t remember the backup QBs name, but I think it was the 3rd (?) string guy, and, at the time, the word was he had done a lot of good things as far as serving as a good ambassador for recruits from other parts of the country etc. Clock was running out, I don’t know if the TO came from the sidelines or from those of us in the stands yelling to call it, but, it was called, and he fucking threw for a score as time expired, in a game long since decided. I don’t know if it was a “thing” between Hayden and Wyche, or simply because Hayden was trying to get the guy a scoring throw, or because Hayden ran it up, when he could. There was a reasonable amount of newspaper chatter about Hayden being less than sporting through those years, and his response seemed to be “fuck you”. If Mas Casas happens to look at this, I would guess he could shed some light on it.
Help me Obi-Wan Mas Casa. You're my only hope.
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Oct 21, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Cornelius Robertson was the QB, I recall.
We were up, like 42-3 late in the game, and threw for a TD to essentially close out the game. WHY we did it, I’m not sure, but I’d bet that Hayden simply did not like Sam Wyche for some reason—I’m sure it wasn’t personal with the IU players.
Anyway, the crowd—including me—LOVED it, I am rather ashamed to say. I think we were new to winning big, and new to being good sports about winning.
Also anyway, so Wyche gathers his team at midfield and makes some dumbass speech about remembering this day and revenge is best served cold and shit, but the problem was that the Marching Band was kept from doing their post-game, and Wyche took a lot of crap over that (deservedly, I think. Wyche and IU were out there a LONG time).
Short story long, Wyche bolts for the NFL anyway next year, which seems about right for his character.
When it came to running up the score, Hayden was average at it, at best. Iowa rarely topped 60—even against terrible competition—and usually stopped on the other side of 50. He didn’t keep first-stringers in long, though he didn’t do much to stop the back-ups from scoring since he wanted them to get as “full” an experience as possible. If you look at Hayden’s scores over the years, he scored over 50 only 25 times, and never topped 69 points.
At least 2/3rds of those games were OOC opponents, and of the Big 10 opponents, NW was the one that took the beatings most.
But one game told me everything I needed to know about this issue: Illinois 1985, they were ranked, they came into Kinnick on a rainy day. We were up 49-0 at one point, and that point was late in THE SECOND QUARTER. We could’ve literally scored 100 on the Illini that day.
Instead, we only beat them 59-0, having called off the dogs in the second half. So I think this idea that Hayden wanted to hang a hundred on everyone has been exaggerated over the years. The Sam Wyche game and the Gary Barnett game don’t help Hayden’s cause, though, admittedly.
"Apparently, riding Joe Paterno like a small horse is FROWNED UPON IN THIS ESTABLISHMENT!"
by The Director on Oct 21, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I want Kirk to hang 60+ on jNorthwestern EVERY TIME from now on
You know, as an homage to Hayden. Nothing more nefarious than that…
You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Oct 21, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
It probably didn't help that Wyche bounced to the Bengals after that year.
Indiana did lose the ’84 game (the year after the Eff You Wyche game), although just 24-20. So… baby steps?
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
JC Love Jordan
JC Love Jordan had a nice postscript to his University of Iowa playing career when he appeared in an episode of American Gladiators in the late 80s/early 90s. I believe that he won his competition. I remember being disappointed that they didn’t have a MNF style opening of the show with JC Love saying “JC Love Jordan, THE University of Iowa.”
by santorin claus on Oct 21, 2011 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Welp, it'sonly 9am, but this seems likely to be my favorite bit of trivia for the day.
Iowa football + American Gladiators = big fat win.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Isn’t that Bobby Stoops as #41 out there? Mike was #3, I think. Odd choice for a number for him.
4-1=3? I dunno — just spitballin’. #41 is what they all wore at Iowa assuming there were no conflicts (i.e., another Stoops brother there at the same time), right? I believe that’s the jersey that their father is buried in, too.
Wait, was Granger a FB? I thought Gill was a FB. Of course, in those days the job split between RB and FB wasn’t quite as severe as it is these days…
Their QB (the aforementioned LOLfenberg (better known as Laufenberg) was a career back-up in the pros, but he managed to hang around for a while.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Er, reply fail.
That’s meant to be in response to The Director.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I always thought Norm was a FB....
….at least, that’s how I remember him. I remember Gill as a big half-back, but then again I think the lines were often blurred with Hayden and his RBs, as you suggest. Was Nick Bell an HB or a FB? Again, he was used in a bunch of different ways, often as an HB, but his size made him more of a FB, and I recall he sometimes lined up as a FB with a different guy—like Mike Saunders or Tony Stewart—in as HB.
I think the real difference is this: back in those days, the FB might actually get some carries, whereas now they’re mainly blocking backs. David Hudson was another big back who played both roles, I recall. Any way you slice it, the FB just isn’t as important a position as it used to be.
"Apparently, riding Joe Paterno like a small horse is FROWNED UPON IN THIS ESTABLISHMENT!"
by The Director on Oct 20, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
So I went back and watched some highlights from those years.
Wow, Hayden played the RB’s everywhere. Granger played from the fullback position a lot, but sometimes was the only back in the backfield. Gill played about everywhere, often at fullback. Often Hayden had two running backs the same distance behind the QB, one just behind on each side—like the old wishbone—and on a pass play both would block. I even saw a play where there were three backs in the backfield.
You hardly ever see those types of formations anymore. Even the traditional fullback-halfback set is not often used except by teams like Iowa and Wisconsin. Kind of sad, to my mind. Takes one whole ‘type’ of ball-carrier off the field.
"Apparently, riding Joe Paterno like a small horse is FROWNED UPON IN THIS ESTABLISHMENT!"
by The Director on Oct 20, 2011 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Coldn't agree more with your last point!
This is the only way I could explain my undying appreciation for having two great fullbacks in Joe Suhey and Mike Zordich – it goes beyond the mustache to a love for one of the best traditions of football.
"Don't you'uns think this outlaw bit's done got out of hand?"
by ReadingRambler on Oct 20, 2011 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Off the RBs for a moment
yeah, that was Babe Laufenberger. Played in the pros as a backup QB for the Cowboys, now is a sports anchor in Dallas and does Cowboy broadcasts for radio. He seems like a pretty good dude, despite his Indiana connection. Kept him humble, I guess.
Here's a question..
Does any major college QB do the backpedaling drop back anymore?
by FlyingDutchman1 on Oct 20, 2011 5:48 PM CDT reply actions
I don't think so.
Was it even prevalent back when we did it?
"Let me finish or I will hammerpunch your clavicle." -Steve Youngblood
by SomeJerkPoster on Oct 20, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Kind of
I don’t think it was the standard even back then, but we definitely were not the only ones doing it. If you watch highlights of Dan Marino at Pitt, he did it too. I don’t think anyone does it anymore though, probably for good reason.
I’ve also never understood the tight ends standing straight up at the line thing. It seems like that would make them slower off the line,and give them less leverage blocking. Hayden was a weird guy.
The stand-up TE
was a trademark of Hayden Fry. The purpose of the stand up TE was to give the defense multiple looks. Fry felt putting the TE in a down position made the offense too predictable.
By putting the TE in a stand up position along the line, Fry felt that it made defenses have to respect the TE as a receiver and have to put a LB into coverage. By doing so, it opened up the second level for the running game.
Iowa’s running attack under Fry usually was a RB and FB side by side in the backfield, Now remember, Iowa had big powerful runners like Owen Gill, Ronnie Harmon, Nick Bell, etc over the years..so when that OLine would open a hole…they’d be rumbling through that line and into the secondary.
The stand-up TE was just as vital to the running game for Iowa as it was for the passing.
by FlyingDutchman1 on Oct 20, 2011 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Why would standing straight up make them more of a threat in the passing game?
If anything it would slow them down coming off the line. It’s way harder to get to full speed from a stance like that that it would be from a two or even three point. And if they were staying in to block, it completely screws up their leverage because being straight up and down is the worst thing you can do as a blocker. I know it was his trademark, but it makes absolutely no sense.
Yeah I never understood that and still don't even with the above explanation.
by HawkeyeRecon on Oct 21, 2011 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
If that were the case
split ends would start in a 3-point stance too.
I would imagine being down in a stance lets you get a quick first step while remaining low for leverage on the line. But it doesn’t let you get off to a faster start, unless you have an angled plane to push off of (cf sprinters and starting blocks)
"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull." - W.C. Fields
And actually I would argue that you do get a way faster start from a 3 point
You would be lower for your first two steps, which is good, and your weight would start farther forward. It’s a lot closer to a sprinter’s stance than standing straight up and down is.
I think it was to enable them to see better -
To see where the LBs were, read their keys, etc, whatever.
"Pursue happiness... with diligence."
by Bucketochicken on Oct 20, 2011 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
They could also more quickly get off the line for pass plays...
…..like WR’s who also don’t get down into a stance. The TE’s used to stand with hands on hips, too, which was distinctive. I’m sure that practicing against Iowa’s great d-lines of the 80’s and 90’s helped them hone their technique.
Hayden was no dummy. I’m even wondering if keeping two blocking backs on pass plays isn’t a bad idea to be looked at again. You could screen to either one, for example, to either side of the field. I imagine that would be hard to defend! And it would be difficult to blitz with two blocking backs to protect the QB.
Hayden. Not a dumb guy.
"Apparently, riding Joe Paterno like a small horse is FROWNED UPON IN THIS ESTABLISHMENT!"
by The Director on Oct 21, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Right but wide receivers don't stand straight up and down with their hands on their hips
Nor does anyone who is trying to get an explosive start. I’m pretty sure there’s a good reason that didn’t catch on
by NorseHawk on Oct 21, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm guessing their 'stance' was a compromise position.
They could drop down to block, or go out for a pass; if you’re in a three-point stance, it’s harder to maneuver around people and go out for a pass. If you’re in a WR’s ‘ready to go’ stance, where you’re angled a bit, and don’t present a big target, the defender can get around you more easily.
I’d have to look at old film again, but I suspect the TE’s didn’t ‘explode’ off the line when blocking. I wonder if they didn’t often back up a step and then re-direct the lineman rather than try and meet right at the LOS. But we used that standing up thing for so long, and had so many good, NFL-type TE’s, that it MUST have done something for us, and for our TE’s.
"Apparently, riding Joe Paterno like a small horse is FROWNED UPON IN THIS ESTABLISHMENT!"
by The Director on Oct 21, 2011 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Correlation =/= causation, man
I’m not saying they necessarily should have been in a three point at all times (although I don’t think it’s as limiting as you do), but a two point or receiver’s stance would have been a lot better. Standing straight up like that makes it hard to get to full speed quickly (which is why receivers or sprinters don’t stand like that), and it’s the worst possible position for blocking (you may present a marginally bigger target than the receiver stance, but you’ll also have worse leverage since your knees aren’t bent at all). It seems like a goofy quirk for the sake of a goofy quirk, and I haven’t heard a particularly compelling reason for why it was a good idea. I mean it didn’t kill the team obviously, but that doesn’t mean it was ideal.
Dan Fouts footwork
at its finest….
Can’t wait for Sparty week when Chuck Long hoists that ball up again on the bootleg.
That’s my first Iowa memory. I grew up on the east coast (I’m a man… Im 40 now) so the closest thing that resembled good football in the early – mid 80s was BostonCollege and PennSchtate.
I married an Iowa gal, so that’s why I’ve taken refuge in the Batshit Insanity that is BHGP.
thanks for having me…..
by Ordinary Joe on Oct 20, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
You have chosen wisely
"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull." - W.C. Fields
I don't know about major college QB's
But I certainly employ this method liberally when playing pick up tailgate games with friends/family. Seen through the haze of many beers, a defense consisting of my dad and older brother can be quite tricky if you take your eyes off the secondary for even a second. Gotta go with the backpedal.
Did I see the Hoosier QB have to shush the crowd around the 2:30 mark?
I’ve never seen that before in Bloomington.
Clearly they had Corso Fever.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
He just cared too damn much.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Minus about 70 pounds.... but yeah, he really does.
That was a quite a luxurious mop o’ hair Corso had back then.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
So by spelling it that way....
you’re saying it is pronounced LOLEfenberg?
"You're going to go out there with a dick full of confidence. Then, you're going to go out there and shoot that confidence all over the stadium." -Blue Mountain State
by Hawkaloogie on Oct 20, 2011 7:11 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Don't you start with that...
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Bad HawkLAWLoogie!
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Oct 20, 2011 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Bury, Indiana!
They lack all fame,
Named for Hoosiers who can’t win a game.
Bury, Indiana, as a Bielma would say,
Trips along softly faking like they can play—
Bury, Indiana, Bury Indiana, Bury, Indiana,
Let me say it once again.
Bury, Indiana, Bury Indiana, Bury, Indiana,
That’s the team that "knew me when
The play on the card said go for two again
OMHR has the bucket
Hoping Kirk will say fuck it
In Kinnick they play
we all want to say
Bury, Indiana!
Bury, Indiana!
Not Champaign, Columbus, Ann Arbor , Madison Lincoln, but—
Bury, Indiana!
Bury, Indiana!
Bury, Indiana!
And send them home !
Now the original "Gary Indiana Gary Indiana"
Is from The Music Man
By Meredith Wilson
Mason City’s premier songsmith
What goes around comes around?
Long Live the Pellican Whore - like FOREVER
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