Joe Paterno Retains A Quarterback
by Adam Jacobi on Jan 6, 2011 8:01 AM CST
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PrintScene: The Outback Bowl. Penn State and Florida have battled to a 30-24 score late in the fourth quarter. Penn State has the ball, and quarterback Matt McGloin is trying to drive his team down the field for the winning score.
YOU CAN DO IT
THROW A TOUCHDOWN IMMEDIATELY
I TRUST YOU COMPLETELY, RED-HEADED AND NOODLE-ARMED WALK-ON
Um, coach, you gave me a scholarship to come here, and you didn't give one to that guy, and he is blowing yet another game for us. I'm finally healthy now, so I'm ready to start playing as much as I did during the first half of the season when I was starting. Also I am not even 20 years old so I am totally fucking irrational.
WHO ARE YOU
ugggghhhhhhhhhh
I want to transfer.
BE QUIET FOR ONCE AND OBSERVE MY BEST QUARTERBACK EVE /throws his fifth interception of the game
Matt McGloin throws his fifth interception of the game.
WHAT
Ahmad Black slowly returns the interception unimpeded.
This player was told he was too slow for football over and over!
He sure was!
How ironic that he returns an interception for a touchdown when everyone was in agreement that he is molasses in a secondary!
/doesn't even bother trying to chase Black
This return is heroically taking forever! He runs a leader-like 5.2 40!
Ahmad Black scores a touchdown to seal the victory for Florida.
WHAT WAS THAT
THAT GANG OF SCOUNDRELS MUST HAVE CHEATED
THAT INTERCEPTION RETURN TOOK FORTY AND TWO SECONDS, AND NOBODY ON MY ENTIRE TEAM WAS THERE TO TACKLE THIS OBESE, SLOVENLY DEFENSIVE BACK BEFORE HE SCORED
THIS IS UNNATURAL
/keeps just standing there
Seriously, coach, if this the guy you're going to put out at quarterback instead of me, I'm just going to go somewhere else while I'm still young.
THAT IS OKAY
WHO ARE YOU AGAIN AND WHAT POSITION DO YOU PLAY
I'm Robert Bolden, your backup quarterback. Now, can I transfer already?
OH
Wait. I can't?
NO
I NEED YOU NOW
You completely screwed me over once I was healthy and you lied to me about playing time, and now the season is over for the next eight months. I'm done with this. I'm going somewhere else
ABSOLUTELY NOT, YOUNG ROBERT
I WAS TRICKED INTO HANDING MY QUARTERBACK POSITION TO A DIRTY IRISHER
Wait, isn't "McGloin" Scottish?
DOES IT SOUND LIKE DOG VOMIT
Um... mic-glo-een... no, not really.
THEN IT IS NOT THE NOBLE SCOTTISH
THIS IS EVERY SCOTTISH WORD EVER
LAPHROAIGFRAOGHRAFLAGLLAPHLAIG
Point taken, coach.
ROBERT IS A SCOTTISH NAME
But didn't you just say all Sco
I LIKE YOU ROBERT
Well, thank you, I think. But I truly hate it here and I have zero motivation to actually help this football team. You took away a starting role from a true freshman and this is what happens. Do you really want to depend on a quarterback who's going to approach the game with all the commitment and intensity of Ken Griffey Jr. during his first four years with the Cincinnati Reds?
IT'S EITHER THAT OR A RED-HEADED ASSCHILD SO FRANKLY I LIKE MY ODDS
That's it, I'm going to the press and telling them how pissed off I am at you
IS THAT SO
I SEE
And I'll tell them everybody on the team agrees that I should be allowed to transfer.
WELL THEN
I'm already getting texts from prospective coaches! Check this out.
Hello, Robert! This is Randy Edsall! Word on the street is that you're feeling crappy at PSU.
Well let me be the first to invite you to my new school, Massachusetts!
You can transfer to Massachusetts, a traditional I-AA power, without even losing a year of eligibility, so you can win a championship the very next year!
Wait... crap. Crap crap crap. Disregard everything I said before. I apparently signed with Maryland.
I guess that's why I got so much money.
Um... what I meant was Maryland is my dream job!
God damn it.
I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M SMARTER THAN EVERY OTHER COACH IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL
Ugggghhhhhhhhh.
I WIN AGAIN
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Robert Bolden is following Rich Rod
I read somewhere. So, he’s probably taking the year off anyway.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Maybe he'll follow him back to Silent Hill.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jan 6, 2011 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
DRob said the same thing
QB controversies are fun!
"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe
by Brock8144 on Jan 6, 2011 1:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
THIS IS THE GREATEST POST IN THE HISTORY OF BHGP
It captures all of college football!
Recruits, both pre-madonna (BSD spelling) and otherwise:
Also I am not even 20 years old so I am totally fucking irrational.
Joe Paterno’s attitude towards freshman since 1966:
WHO ARE YOU AGAIN AND WHAT POSITION DO YOU PLAY I WANTED JIM KELLY AT LINEBACKER AND I CAN WANT YOU AT LINEBACKER ANY MINUTE SONNY
Scumbag coaches!:
Um… what I meant was Maryland is my dream job!
YES:
I WIN AGAIN
wooo joepa
"The forecast is zero. And the chill factor's high."
So wait. Pre-Madonna?
So before her birth in 1958? Or before her debut single in 1982? Or is it a reference to BC?
Making fun of BSD > Doing work.
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
It's more like
hairy armpit pics that end up in Playboy type of Madonna.
Thought she was all that, but when you look close enough it just kinda makes you cringe.
Sarcastradamus!
Snide predictions since 2010!
Now, she just looks like Skeletor from all the working out she does
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Jan 6, 2011 7:17 PM CST up reply actions
Wow!!! You just made...
Every woman with curves happy!!!
"I can take anyone down at anytime; they can't take me down; no one can ride or turn me; I can control anyone."- Dan Gable
by BoHawk-Not-BoHunk on Jan 7, 2011 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
And every older woman pissed off
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jan 7, 2011 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
Some way of making fun that is!
This from a member of a blog who once did a photoshop entitled “Black Shoe Diarrhea”.
"Sentence fragments...just phrases!"
by ReadingRambler on Jan 6, 2011 6:43 PM CST up reply actions
BSD is a sewing circle now
Rumors, speculation, gossip, can be found HERE! WE ARE…
"Life is no way to treat an animal"
by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 6, 2011 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
I work with a guy who was charged with running their newest advertising campaign.
From what I’m told, the process consisted of three dudes sitting in an advertising office slowing drinking their way through a bottle of the stuff and drunkenly scribbling down the most immature stuff they could come up with. I can’t imagine this is what Laphroig had in mind when they signed the agency.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jan 6, 2011 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
Heh
I’m envisioning it as a scene from Mad Men.
I sometimes confuuse my life with that show, too.
partticularly in how tall I pour my whiskies after watching it.
by The Final Gun on Jan 6, 2011 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
I'm Sorry I just can't do Laphroaig
Far too peaty whisky for my liking, got to go with a good Chivas or Glenmorangie
Totally with you
I’m having trouble getting to the bottom of my Laphroaig bottle to get better into my Balvenie.
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
I'd like to offer you my services, sir.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jan 6, 2011 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
SOLD!
To the man with a palate for peat!
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
oh man, can't stand peat
smoked Nyquil is what it tastes like.
"Life is no way to treat an animal"
by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 6, 2011 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
oh, it's heaven...
"Life is no way to treat an animal"
by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 7, 2011 2:26 AM CST up reply actions
Thanks for letting me forget about my hangover for 2.41 minutes this morning. I may just read it again!
by RH's Bookie on Jan 6, 2011 9:35 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Got a short email today in all caps and when I read it I kept hearing Joe Pa’s voice. El oh el.
by RH's Bookie on Jan 6, 2011 7:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
COME TO PENN SCHATE
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Jan 6, 2011 7:12 PM CST up reply actions
If Joe is truly strategic,
he’ll limit Robert’s transfer options to … Michigan.
We play tackle football, most of the time.
Big Ten rules, sadly, forbid that option.
"The forecast is zero. And the chill factor's high."
by ReadingRambler on Jan 6, 2011 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
I still think Bolden should go by "Bert."
"If there's one thing Nixon is known for, it's class. Now let's cut this turd loose!"
- Richard Nixon's Head, President of Earth
GLORIOUS!
"Red, it took me sixteen years to get here. You play me, and I'll give ya the best I got."
Nice
But we can add some other story about the cream cheese
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun
This was awesome
Cory Geiger asks Paterno if talk about his future bothers him. "You bother me," Joe tells Geiger.
JoePa Chronicles are great as usual,
made even better when Pandora started playing Journey’s “Separate Ways” for me just as I was starting to read it. The alignment was more mindblowing than Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz.
"I'll be dead in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Mizzurah!"--Abraham Simpson
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Jan 6, 2011 11:49 AM CST reply actions
"I'll be dead in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Mizzurah!"--Abraham Simpson
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Jan 6, 2011 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
As usual, Brilliant.
And making it difficult for me to participate in this conference in a professional manner due to the case of shits and giggles I now have.
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
From here on out, PSU must be referred to as Penn Schtate on BGHP
Agreed? I don’t think this is mean spirited – its like calling us Ioway.
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Jan 6, 2011 5:37 PM CST up reply actions
As BHGP’s Penn State representative, I will state for the record that I am apathetic towards this idea. Apathy is the same as approval, so good work!
"Sentence fragments...just phrases!"
by ReadingRambler on Jan 6, 2011 6:45 PM CST up reply actions
Andrew Luck is not entering the 2011 NFL draft; he is returning to Stanford.
Somebody give me some props. I told y’all he was a dork who loved school and would go back, but everyone on here told me I was wrong. FINALLY I WAS RIGHT
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Jan 6, 2011 1:43 PM CST reply actions
He is so, so stupid for this decision.
I really hope he’s spared a career-ending injury.
Hint: you can finish college after your 10-year career where you make between 50 and 100 million dollars.
by The Final Gun on Jan 6, 2011 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
Either that or he's so, so smart
and has run the algorithm that told him there is a 90% probability of a lockout, and he’ll be better off at Stanford than coaching a pee wee team while he’s locked out.
What an imbecile.
He’s liable to lose $40 million, just on his first contract. I thought you had to be smart to get into Stanford?
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jan 6, 2011 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
According to ESPN, he said part of it was because he'd miss his professors.
I hope he doesn’t get injured next year. On one hand, I admire him for staying in school, but on the other hand, there is nothing above the #1 draft pick. He lost soo much money.
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Jan 6, 2011 2:02 PM CST up reply actions
I wonder if he misses his Mommy too.
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Jan 6, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
Translation: There's a lot of booty here that's gone untapped.
"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."
by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 6, 2011 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
Have you seen the typical Stanford coed?
They ain’t exactly a reason to stay.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
HE LIKES GIRLS WITH PERSONALITIES
"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."
by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 6, 2011 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
With his personality, I actually think he's still in the "girls have cooties" stage.
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Jan 6, 2011 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
There are plenty of geeky girls at Stanford and Cal
Generally, the reason geeky guys don’t get any is because they’re totally clueless when it comes to girls. At least that’s what my GF says… apparently I am completely clueless (although I’ve been married 2x and managed to breed a couple of mini-mes out of it all).
The reason I’m clueless? Well, at Tuesday’s jam session, one of the singers, who is a young woman in her 20s, asked me as I was leaving if I was gone for the night… I said yeah, and she wanted to say goodbye, as she’s moving away. Gave me a big hug, etc. I just talk to her now and then, I haven’t tried to jump her or anything. Hell, I’m basically easily old enough to be her Dad.
Anyway, so I tell my GF about this last night, and she starts dogging me, saying “You guys are so clueless. She wants you. You just don’t see it.”
? WTF
I think my GF is terribly jealous and paranoid, which is kind of cool except when I get a 20 minute about a frickin’ hug…
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Jan 6, 2011 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
Just because she's paranoid
doesn’t mean she isn’t also right.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
So this other chick *was* interested? Cool
Like my ego needs any more feeding ;)
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Jan 7, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
What happens at the jam session, stays at the jam session
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Jan 7, 2011 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
I know someone who went to Stanford and she's hot.
She’s also a doctor and smart as hell.
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Jan 6, 2011 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
They're hotter in Carolina
But not doctor-smart
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jan 7, 2011 12:56 AM CST up reply actions
Booty all over the world, and he kisses off $40 mil and some new booty...
To keep chasing the old. Imbecile.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jan 6, 2011 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
Even if he avoids getting injured
he’s going to take a HUGE financial hit. He was a consensus pick to be the #1 overall pick. Next year, regardless of what happens this season, the league will have a rookie salary cap, much like the NBA. He is going to lose most of the better than $40M guaranteed he would have gotten in signing bonus by going this year.
And that’s assuming that he’s still the #1 pick next year. This time last year, Jake Locker was (inexplicably) in the same position. The dirty truth is that now that he’s seen as the best QB, scouts will do nothing but pick apart his performance, looking for flaws to lower his value whereas they gloss over them if you bolt early (it’s a dirty, dirty part of the game).
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
It's possible that he could fall, sure.
But it’s unlikely he’d tumble as far as Locker is likely to this year. Anyone with two eyes could see that it was outrageous for Locker’s stock to be so high — it was based purely on measurables and the fact that he LOOKS like a stud NFL quarterback. With Luck, all you have to do is watch some gamefilm — or just the Orange Bowl from the other night. He looks like an elite QB and makes throws like an elite QB and that (probably) won’t change.
Coming back for another year didn’t hurt Peyton Manning’s stock. Nor did it hurt Sam Bradford’s stock (and he even got injured and tagged with the dreaded “injury risk” label). Yes, it’s hurt some guys in the past, but it’s not a universal problem.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
In the Luck-specific example
I would tend to agree that it probably won’t hurt him to come back, but it’s still an awfully big risk. Leinart suffered the same fate, a consensus #1 overall who decided to return for his senior season despite scouts saying he had all the measurables and certainly the game film that made him appear to be an NFL-lock. But then he came back, and more film demonstrated flaws in his game and his stock plummeted. As I mentioned, it’s a weird system that as soon as they build you up, the NFL starts to break you down, looking for reasons to diminsh your achievments. All the while being breathlessly in love with the shiniest new toy.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
He loses a big chunk of their offensive line
and presumably Harbaugh. I don’t see how it’ll end well for him
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Jan 6, 2011 4:45 PM CST up reply actions
See Bradford
Does anybody think it didn’t end well for him? He has a green line two years ago, hence the injuries. While he still had Stoops, I’m not so sure that Luck can’t still be the #1 overall even playing on a 6-6 rebuilding Stanford without Harbaugh.
Ok true, and I overstated it
I just think his stock will drop, or at least it will never be as high as it is right now. He’s a smart kid and college will always be there.
Anyway, if the signing cap for rookies is put in place for this year, then it won’t matter, this year or next, it’ll be about the same
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Jan 6, 2011 7:09 PM CST up reply actions
We are in an era where some people...
will sacrifice 20 or 30 million bucks for what they think is more happiness. Look at LeBron. Look at A. Luck.
To be fair, there are 5 to 10 NFL teams that could draft him, and he could have a career like Leinart: a cycle of backup-starter-demoted.
Luck’s family is apparently not lacking for money, so perhaps he feels like another year of cementing himself as one of the best Stanford players ever (and having fun while doing so) is worth it. Being a QB for two or three years on an awful team like Carolina does not approach that in terms of joy.
One thing I heard the other day on Sunday Night Football: Al Michaels was interviewing Sam Bradford. Bradford said it was a ton of work to be a rookie starting QB. He spends at least 10 hours a day working on it, maybe more.
Of course, most of us would say we could handle playing for a crappy franchise because being paid $5 or 10 million a year to play football would be our dream come true. But, for some people, it is not.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 6, 2011 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
Let's see. He lifts, runs, does practice and has to study and watch film
And if he doesn’t piss his money away, he’s set for life, and likely will be able to do WTF he wants after age 35. Not a bad gig, and its a lot safer than going out on a crab boat in Alaska.
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Jan 6, 2011 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
I think many people feel this way.
But a few do not. Maybe Luck is one of those few.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 7, 2011 12:03 AM CST up reply actions
Ya know
If I played QB I wouldn’t want to be a top pick. That means you’re going to an awful team and will be expected to be a savior. I’d rather be picked later in the round, lose the big bonus, and work my way into the franchise with some help.
Brunettes not fighter jets
x1000
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Jan 7, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
It's working out pretty good for Rodgers in Green Bay right now
I have not doubt that he would have struggled at the 49ers, even though he is a better QB than Smith.
Being a first year starter has worked out only for teams with a stud running game and sound defense (Sanchez, Flacco, Roethlisberger, Bradford). And only one of them was a #1 pick.
Keep in mind though
that Rodgers was also incredibly close to not getting a single opportunity to start an NFL game throughout the duration of his first NFL contract. There are pros and cons either way.
The chatter now is that the new CBA will apply to this year's draft.
So the days of #1 picks banking crazy-huge contracts like Bradford and Matt Ryan could already be done.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Hard to believe that the NFLPA will just roll over and die on something like that, that quickly.
For me at least.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jan 6, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
Nah, the union will
Because the overwhelming majority of their members, veterans, are sick of being paid drastically less than “some snot-nosed punk college kid that hasn’t proven he can play in the league”.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
The snot nosed college kid that hasn't proven he can play in the league...
Is a member too. And they have to represent him. What the owners are shooting for is the Union to save them from themselves. The NFLPA isn’t the one cutting the checks, or even negotiating the deals. That’s between the owners and the agents.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jan 6, 2011 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
The owners are certainly to blame for letting things spiral this far out of control.
But you’re kidding yourself if you think there aren’t players that aren’t annoyed about rookies stepping in and immediately becoming some of the highest-paid players in the game. The NFLPA is going to have to pick its fights in the new CBA and this fight probably isn’t worth it.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
That may be, but the owners are going to come off that money one way or another.
As in a salary basement as well as a salary cap. And higher base salaries for vets, and more guaranteed money for the vets too.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jan 6, 2011 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
Sure.
I never said (and I don’t think anyone else has suggested) that the money that was previously going to the rookies will just be staying in the owners’ pockets – it will still be going to the players (or most of it anyway), just in a different form. High-paid rookies may be as much a part of the union as other players, but they’re a very small class — there’s not much point in continuing to favor them over the larger class of veteran NFL players that could use the money (and who arguably deserve it more).
Regardless, I was just pointing out that it’s been fait accompli in all the writing about the new CBA from pretty much every NFL writer that the massive rookie deals are going to be no more. The fact that that might be as true as soon as the 2011 draft this year is a little bit of a surprise, but certainly plausible — and if that’s true, Luck really isn’t losing out on tens of millions by waiting another year (although he is delaying the time that he could sign his SECOND contract, which is where he could really cash in if he’s as good as he’s supposed to be).
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Barring injury.
I’d look for the NFLPA to lean on the owners hard about guaranteed money also.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jan 6, 2011 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
Injury's a risk pretty much all the time.
And, frankly, less of a risk for a QB prospect than, say, a RB prospect or a WR prospect.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I have a solution that will make me really happy about the new CBA
They should just give all the fucking money to me.
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Jan 6, 2011 7:09 PM CST up reply actions
If I'm negotiating for the NFLPA, that is.
Which obviously I’m not. I sitting here typing at you guys.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jan 6, 2011 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, the snot-nosed college kid is a member
but in a vote to ratify an agreement, there are more veterans than undrafted college kids. I’m pretty sure that the NFLPA will worry about appeasing a majority of their members, not trying to satisfy 100%.
Wait, if they’re undrafted they’re not in the union. So only veterans are in the union until the draft? Therefore, screw the college kid, Suh got his, why should he care about Luck?
Why?
The talk all along has been that those stupid rookie deals were going to be killed in the next CBA, so the only slightly new news would be that it would apply to this year’s rookies.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Why would the union go along with that though?
My post above pretty much covers my thinking.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jan 6, 2011 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
To win other battles.
The same thing that happens in every negotiation.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
The union doesn't have a ton of power.
The NFL could eventually use replacement players.
Also, there have to be hundreds of players who, without paychecks next year, will be bankrupt. It is the same thing that the NBA knew: about 75% of players can’t afford to be out of work for half a season or a season.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 6, 2011 9:58 PM CST up reply actions
Shane Falco for Super Bowl MVP!
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 7, 2011 11:47 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I really want to rec this..
screw it i’m doing it.
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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jan 7, 2011 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
No they couldn't
because replacement players are immediately stuck with the “scab” or “inferior” labels. If there is one thing the past 40 years of professional sports have shown us, it is that Americans will not tolerate a professional league that is comprised of the B and C-level talent. It’s why the WFL, USFL, XFL and a host of others all failed. Using replacement players may bring the union down, but it is nothing but a short-term fix for the owners, and they know it.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
You forgot WNBA
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jan 7, 2011 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
But they got next!
"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."
by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 7, 2011 7:14 PM CST up reply actions
Did you watch the Miami, OH vs Middle Tennessee State game last night?
I sure as hell did. So did a lot of other people. Why? Because it was the only football on tv at the time. If replacement players are the only show in town they will be watched.
Yes.
And there are thousands of former college players, who would love the chance to play “in the NFL” for a season or even half a season. That is why the Arena League was in business for so long (and still is to a lesser extent), and why the UFL began.
If the NFL wants to stick it to the union, they could easily have replacement players for a half a year or a full season. Sure, the ratings would be lower, but the franchises would decrease their losses or maybe even approach breaking even.
And don’t tell me you wouldn’t watch 5 or 10 former Hawkeyes play for the Packers, or the Vikes, or the Bears, or the Rams. I know I’d love to see Drew Tate throwing passes to Andy Brodell in the NFL.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 8, 2011 12:51 AM CST up reply actions
Carolina Panthers front office
furious that they threw the whole season to get this nerd and he totally fucked them over.
Wonder how many draft picks they can sucker Pete Carroll into giving up for the #1 pick.
"You're holding my hand Chuck - you sly dog!"
So now that Luck is staying in school, does that mean Stanzi is going to be #1? Hahaha.
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Jan 6, 2011 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
He's always been #1
in my heart.
"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."
by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 6, 2011 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
What if?
Maybe he really really doesn’t want to play for Carolina and their porous O-line.
by RH's Bookie on Jan 6, 2011 7:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's not like next years #1 draft is going to be a good team either
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Jan 6, 2011 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
But it may be a team with better potential than the Panthers.
Obviously no #1 pick is going to a good team, but Carolina is really in the weeds. Maybe Detroit continues to get unlucky, while also building a strong defense. Could you imagine how much better off Luck would be in Detroit as opposed to Charlotte?
by The Mexican't on Jan 6, 2011 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
He seems to have some foresight.
Being in a top flight architecture program is no joke. Putting off the pros for a few years to finish his degree is a completely reasonable decision when it comes to the education and degree he is getting.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jan 6, 2011 7:45 PM CST up reply actions
My Wisconsin boyfriend JJ Watt is entering the NFL draft.
Hope I see him on Sundays soon.
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Jan 6, 2011 2:48 PM CST reply actions
This true?
Because if so, Wisky’s chances of winning the Big Ten take an even bigger hit.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
He wrote an awesome open letter to Badger fans that I would link to, but the ipad won't let me.
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Jan 6, 2011 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
That's because you don't need to
If Jobs wanted you to do it, you could. And it would work perfectly 100% of the time.
i actully met jobs twice
but woz was a lot lot lot lot lot
did i say a lot cooler?
but i only met him once
but if stevie wonder had the stuff
he would have released the ipad instead of the mac
its a lot easier to carry through airports
I don't intend to upset folks with the way I write it just happens,,,
I have written a short research paper on Jobs and Apple...
before the IPod got that company rolling again.
Wozniak certainly seemed much cooler. Is it any wonder that Woz was the one with an actual career (with HP) when they started Apple, while Jobs was tripping on LSD and having Woz do his work for him (for Atari).
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 6, 2011 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
Shame Iowa's not in THAT division next year.
Being the NFL possibly taking a big chunk out of Illinois (possibly Liuget, LeShoure, Wilson) and Wisconsin (Watt and 3/5 of the OL for sure, maybe Clay and others), the Suspension Five at Ohio State, and the ongoing drama at Penn State, that division looks pretty wide open.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I'm going to assume that the suspended Buckeyes get their suspension reduced 1 game.
Which would mean that they miss zero conference play. Assuming they’re still able to practice, I’d say there’s a good chance that they’ll still be favored in the division.
by The Mexican't on Jan 6, 2011 4:40 PM CST up reply actions
They'd be favored anyway.
Even if the suspensions are 5 games, they’ll only miss MSU which isn’t a division game. If they win out, I’d bet that a loss to MSU would still allow them to win the East.
Even if they can practice, they're still going to losing reps to the guys who will actually be playing those first 4-5 games.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I think both divisions look wide open
Nebraska and MSU will be the default picks for the West, simply because they had double digit wins this year, but if you think either one looks like a juggernaut next year please tell me why. Nebraska still hasn’t shown a consistent offense, and they lose a decent chunk of starters on both sides of the ball. Does anybody really believe that Sparty will overachieve again next year? jNW might be the favorite, but that rests on Persa. I just don’t think anybody can calim that the West isn’t wide open.
Edit
Both divisions wide open, assuming (as I do) that OSU loses at least 2 of Tattoo Ink to the draft.
I agree that the Faux-West looks wide open, too.
I think Sparty comes back to earth a bit, Nebraska has a murderous schedule (and sub-par QB play, unless Martinez improves in a hurry or they find someone better ASAP), and Michigan is in turmoil. jNW will have the best QB in the division (and probably the league), but I can’t take them seriously when they always manage to botch a few games. And if you thought Iowa had a hard time dealing with being a favorite, I think they would really struggle.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I started laughing at line two
and didn’t stop for 20 minutes.
Awesome post!
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"A parent's only as good as their dumbest kid. If one wins a Nobel Prize but the other gets robbed by a hooker, you failed."
i did not realize
how much jo pa was like my pa
god rest his soul
you could substitute
(live from leeds !!) pa’s pic
and things such as
use of the ’62 bell aire
replete with three on the tree
or going out with wendy
your excellent tome
has made my day
Thank You
I don't intend to upset folks with the way I write it just happens,,,
The rest of you can all go to hell.
I for one am proud that zombie e.e. cummings is a commenter on BHGP.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
by RossWB on Jan 6, 2011 4:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You just have a thing for zombies
don’t you?
It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?
by chitownhawkeye on Jan 6, 2011 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
BRAAAAAINS
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
THIS!
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Jan 6, 2011 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
I still stand by SMA
and his observation that he’s the Sylvia Plath of BHGP.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jan 6, 2011 7:48 PM CST up reply actions
I'm just mad because I keep reading them, expecting them to have content that outweighs the aggravation of the form.
Not yet.
"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."
by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 6, 2011 6:08 PM CST up reply actions
I could not disagree more.
"Sentence fragments...just phrases!"
by ReadingRambler on Jan 6, 2011 6:46 PM CST up reply actions
Well, duh.
You’re a mormon.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jan 6, 2011 7:49 PM CST up reply actions
it may assuage your fear
as mentioned by the feerless leader
as we sat in the hot tub tonight
snow swirling
she in her ping go to hell hat
i in my carhart issued elmer fudd
that the title of the first book i published
was the wired librarians primer of library microcomputing
which in the mid 80s had a run of 10k
the sequel
named appropriately
the daughter of the wired librarians primer of library microcomputing
sans son but with female offspring
with a run of only half of that
and needless no ongoing residuals
but the editor did comment
that she wanted to take on a career as a professional bowler
after working through my tomes
so maybe in time it may sink in
and if not my apologies,,,,
i just want to root on the hawks
and the kids who do so much to bring such great pleasure
I don't intend to upset folks with the way I write it just happens,,,
Flies all green and buzzin’
In this dungeon of despair
Prisoners grumblin
Piss they clothes
Scratch their matted hair
A tiny light from a window-hole
Hundred yards away
That all they ever get to know
’bout the regular life in the day
’bout the regular life in the day
Slime and rot and rats and snuck
Vomit on the floor
Fifty ugly soldier men
Holdin’ spears by the iron door
Stinks so bad, stones are chokin’
Weepin’ greenish drops
In the den where
The giant fire puffer woiks
And the torture never stops
The torture never stops, torture
The torture never stops
The torture never stops
"If there's one thing Nixon is known for, it's class. Now let's cut this turd loose!"
- Richard Nixon's Head, President of Earth
by Bucketochicken on Jan 6, 2011 7:07 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You people are going start doing sports haikus next
(shaking head)
;)
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Jan 6, 2011 7:08 PM CST up reply actions
Good start
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Jan 7, 2011 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
Playing in,
or playing with?
"If there's one thing Nixon is known for, it's class. Now let's cut this turd loose!"
- Richard Nixon's Head, President of Earth
by Bucketochicken on Jan 7, 2011 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
In my case, life with two ex-wifes.
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Jan 6, 2011 7:18 PM CST up reply actions
They both seemed like good ideas at the time
I wish them well. I don’t even know where # 1 is. # 2 I have to deal with a little though since I had two kids with her :-p
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Jan 6, 2011 7:22 PM CST up reply actions
understood
my pappy
god rest his soul
had a saying for that
had to do with thinking with other body parts,,,,,
if i had some to spare i would help with the alimony,,,,
but im sure the the thought is worth someting
he said the real trick
was to avoid the lawyers
I don't intend to upset folks with the way I write it just happens,,,
I have a BA in English from Iowa
And I can state authoritatively that it is not easy to write like this and still half-assedly make sense at the same time.
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Jan 6, 2011 7:07 PM CST up reply actions
Okay, I've read this five fucking times now and I don't know WTF it means.
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Jan 6, 2011 7:30 PM CST up reply actions
so much for practice makes perfect?
I don't intend to upset folks with the way I write it just happens,,,
I think that's the point.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jan 6, 2011 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
He wrote he books (for a rather niche readership). They printed half as many of the second book as the first (I think the implication is that the first didn't sell well, so they didn't want to print a bunch of the second if they wouldn't sell as well).
Also, the editor wanted to kill herself, or “take up bowling” (I hope that was self-depricating humor there), having had to slog through two books by the author that is giving people on this site fits (I, for one, have gotten used to it… but then again I spent an entire summer in high school reading ALL of Shakespeare’s works, and then I spent the next summer watching every Cory Haim and/or Cory Feldman movie in existance, so…)
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 7, 2011 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
I give up.
You win.
"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."
by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 6, 2011 11:36 PM CST up reply actions
I think this may be his best post yet
And I’m actually starting to understand them more and more. Then again, I actually made it all the way through Dhalgren, and OhioHawk is a much easier read.
The scifi book?
That thing is one hell of a hard read. The 200 page radio rant in Atlas Shrugged is a lot easier to slog through.
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Jan 7, 2011 12:19 AM CST up reply actions
Yes
The last chapter is almost very painful, but I was on a mission. I also lived in the country without cable or internet that summer so I had plenty of motivation and time to read.
+1 for good taste
"If there's one thing Nixon is known for, it's class. Now let's cut this turd loose!"
- Richard Nixon's Head, President of Earth
by Bucketochicken on Jan 7, 2011 7:26 AM CST up reply actions
Honest question.
Is that book about anything?
My synopsis, as I can recall (I never read it all the way through…I tried.)
Kid(d) walks around. Looks at crazy sky stuff. Remembers half-memories, or doesn’t. Has a bunch of sex. Watches a bunch of sex. More sex. Violence. More sex.
Perpetually living between the click of a light and the start of a dream.
It's about being a literary mindfuck as far as I can tell
It definitely lacks a linear narrative and is actually a “multistable perception” so it really, really defies the linear narrative convention by having shifting timelines, like the notebook that he reads portions of that were written by himself both before he got it and after he loses it, but he reads them while it is in his possession. And the fact that the uncompleted final sentence, when combined with the fragment that opens the book, form a sentence that is found in a middle chapter. So it’s either great, or crap depending on your point of view.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhalgren
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhalgren
I had to read the book for my scifi class at UNI (I went to UNI my freshman year). Delany is a creative writing teacher that’s taught at several universities. Its definitely not an easy piece of reading by any means.
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Jan 9, 2011 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
Harlan Ellison hated the book
And he’s the guy that wrote what is considered the best Star Trek Original Series episodes – the City on the Edge of Forever…. (Edith Keeler must die!).
As a writer myself, I have a great deal of respect for Harlan’s opinion’s even though he has a reputation as being extremely difficult to work with. I don’t hate the book, but I think its a perfect example of the differences between writers like Stephen King and J.K. Rowling – who write great literature for a popular audience and that the work also is strewn through with meaning and commentary, vs. someone who teaches creative writing and gets lucky writing a book that really is a piece of shit, but, our culture is SO desperate for art that sometimes we will buy anything that makes us look “literary”.
Dahlgren, in my mind, is sort of the equivalent of seeing kids embrace the look and music of gang culture – the baggy clothes, the hats, etc… half the suburban kids around here look like they’re about ready to be arrested in a cops episode and they’ve probably never been near any gang activity or drugs. But they think they look cool. Its a complete mystery to me, just like its a complete mystery to me why certain segments of the geek/literary population think Dahlgren is a good book – because its not. It looks like something a MFA candidate wrote to get their degree (I have a huge ax to grind about some of the crap that regularly comes out of the Iowa Writers Workshop too).
Its fine to write experimental literature, but most of the time, its better left in the classroom and not printed for the bookstore. That said, Dhalgren probably has kept Delany with a good teaching job during his career and off the streets, so that’s not necessarily a bad thing.
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Jan 9, 2011 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
tossed her in
and watched her down
down by the banks
of the ohio
"Sentence fragments...just phrases!"
by ReadingRambler on Jan 7, 2011 8:27 AM CST up reply actions
That's a Neil Young song. Hardly original
Although he shot his baby down by the river
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Jan 7, 2011 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
That song was written before Neil Young’s grandfather was a twinkle in Neil Young’s great-grandfather’s eyes.
"Sentence fragments...just phrases!"
by ReadingRambler on Jan 7, 2011 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, but Neil's the one who's not having problems paying his Visa bill.
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Jan 9, 2011 9:50 PM CST up reply actions
Only thing I don't like are the ellipses made of commas. Those are confusing.
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
BHGP is proof
that God loves me and wants me to be happy.
/Theismann’d
My porn name is HogOfHawkness
No GoDaddy.com Bowl thread? Hahaha.
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Jan 6, 2011 7:30 PM CST reply actions
Shit
you beat me to it.
What's your deal?
by PCarroll_u_sm(j)irk on Jan 6, 2011 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
We care about that? No.
I had Grey’s Anatomy to watch tonight.
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Jan 6, 2011 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
Hey they host my website
SFWSFK
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Jan 6, 2011 10:57 PM CST up reply actions
the queen city championship
the most heated rivalry in tBuckeye State
is being won handily
by the former huggies
I don't intend to upset folks with the way I write it just happens,,,
Huggies as in diapers?
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jan 6, 2011 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
as in Bob Huggins
we used to call them the felons in these parts
he suffered the tragedy of Kenyon Martin,,,
they were a final four lock
and he broke his leg
in the conference tourney,,,,,,
but the good news
only one technical
I don't intend to upset folks with the way I write it just happens,,,
Oh Bob Huggins.
If there is a man
more covered in slime
I certainly
do not know him.
Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jan 6, 2011 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
Too much correct punctuation.
I give your imitation a B-.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
huggy at one time
was the Ohio all time HS leader in scoring wiht 2,438
he is now 11th tOSU Deebler has 3,208
But the all time Ohio scorer is Marlene Stollings
From 5 miles down the road in Beaver
She scored 3,514 points in her career
I don't intend to upset folks with the way I write it just happens,,,
LOL
why is it that I laugh at these when they are on BHGP. If a tO$U site did this I would be angry. Somehow this has an undertone of respect to it. Gradulations.
sigh
GO PENN SCHTATE
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Jan 6, 2011 10:57 PM CST up reply actions
I like the part where JayPa calls his dad "coach."
Also, this needed some sort of conversation between JoePa and Bolden’s Mom where we find out that she is actually a secretary.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
SHE WAS AN EVIL RUSSIAN SPY
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I always thought ROBOCOP would have been improved with more rainbow-shooting unicorns.
I’m sure Verhoeven would agree.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Waiting for the Showgirls reference.
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Jan 7, 2011 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
The original film burning up before it was mass produced would be a good start.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Jan 7, 2011 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
Admit it. You all saw it.
Its like looking at the scene of an auto accident with body parts all over the highway. You’ve just GOTTA look.
"I'm gonna give you assholes a chance. What do you say we play a little Bangkok Rules?" ~ Snake Plissken
by The Bird Cult on Jan 7, 2011 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
Ironically
Jesse Spano’s pool “sex” scene reminded me a lot of an auto accident. You know, with bodies spasming out-of-control in pain just before death.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
That is the greatest thing that could be said about that movie.
/LOL’d
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Jan 7, 2011 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
I guess I'm the only one that has rewatched specifically that scene several times?
Found it helpful in several times of hormonal need
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jan 7, 2011 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
Classic.
"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."
by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 7, 2011 7:17 PM CST up reply actions
It's all worth it for when she kicks the dudes ass at the end.
And for the pure camp value of the entire thing.
the camp value of the Cheetah Club is outstanding
especially the sleazy manager
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jan 7, 2011 7:14 PM CST up reply actions
"Can you fly, Bobby?"
No he could not. Neither can RoBo, per JoePa. Can’t wait to see how it turns out. Something tells me Joe knows a lot more about this situation than we do.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jan 7, 2011 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
Kind of creative, but you screwed up
It was only his 4th interception in the opening narrative that referrs to the potential game-winning drive. His 5th one didn’t come until there was just a few seconds left after the Lions were already down 13 points.
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