Iowa State Did More Rebranding, I Guess
Via KCCI, these are new secondary logo designs that apparently went out last fall, but nobody noticed because ISU didn't exactly announce it. Hey, you figure it out:
Scary?
Technically, these are just secondary logos; the I-State thing is still going to be on the helmets and the Hilton floor and everything; this is just for people who like having a birdy on their shirts. More power to them, I guess.
At this point, shouldn't the Cyclones just take the last step and just call themselves the Angry Birds? Isn't that a better idea than it has any right to be?
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Do they even know what a tornado looks like?
Or do you folks have weird tornadoes out there in Iowa?
"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer
by ReadingRambler on Jan 22, 2011 10:06 AM CST reply actions
I lived through the tornado that came through Iowa City in 2006.
I do not remember it being a giant red angry bird.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
It did turn St. Patrick's into a giant red angry turd
so there’s that
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jan 22, 2011 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
You were on campus in '06?
I was at the pink palace on Burlington when it hit. Had to escape from Okoboji grill. Crazy shit.
by The Mexican't on Jan 22, 2011 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
I'm glad I just missed that.
I graduated in Dec 05 and took a year off before grad school. That tornado sounded scaaaary.
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Jan 22, 2011 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
Yep.
I was actually just a few yards away from it on one of the spots where it touched down. I lived on Jefferson Street; a block away almost every house got trashed. The sorority house that got wrecked was about two blocks from where I lived. That was as close as I’ve ever been to a tornado — and as close as I ever hope to be.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I was living across the street from St Patty's, in the Blackhawk building
Crazy carnage, and also the best Iowa City experience I’ve ever had. Met all my neighbors, everyone shared beers and downtown spilled over with nice people extremely curious to see the destruction. Strange how that can make such a great overall experience.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jan 23, 2011 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
I lived on College St right across from one of the sorority houses
2 blocks away from all the trashed houses. Some of my friends actually lived in a house that got trashed. the only thing left standing was the brick front porch. The thing that made that night bearable was my roommate who bought a pony keg for the night, so I walked around with a beer in my hand looking at the crazy shit that went down.
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Jan 24, 2011 9:37 AM CST up reply actions
"Looking at the crazy shit that went down" was what I did the next day.
We actually got evacuated out of our apartment because there was a gas leak nearby.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
I understand coming up with a mascot that reps a tornado is tough...
But we’re supposed to believe that a cardinal is the 2nd best visual representation?
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jan 22, 2011 10:07 AM CST reply actions
NEW, MORE REALISTIC MASCOT: THE IOWA STATE DOUCHEY STORMCHASERS!

The poorly cut out logo and the muscle shirt really add to the ambience, no?
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 22, 2011 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
argh
"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer
by ReadingRambler on Jan 22, 2011 10:12 AM CST up reply actions

"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer
by ReadingRambler on Jan 22, 2011 10:13 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It's not that tough
My husband’s HS mascot was the “cyclones” and this was their mascot.

Might still be a dumb mascot, but at least the picture makes sense. And they were actually really good at sports, too.
by HawkAtHeart on Jan 22, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
Hey! You can anthropomorphize a tornado after all!
Someone tell Jamie Pollard.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
That storm is ripped!
I bet he owns them dumbbells in the off season!
"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer
by ReadingRambler on Jan 22, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
I enjoy Angry Birds
The game on my phone I play while on the toilet. Iowa State being rebranded as the Angry Birds may ruin the game for me, and therefore my pooping experience.
by Hank Thrasher on Jan 22, 2011 10:15 AM CST via mobile reply actions 4 recs
no shit
I don't intend to upset folks with the way I write it just happens,,,
by OhioHawk on Jan 22, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
I'm not sure that was actually OhioHawk in the reply.
I couldn’t see any poetry.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
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by WaterlooChazz on Jan 23, 2011 7:30 PM CST up reply actions
Going forward every time you see an Iowa State logo
you will need to take a shit.
/pavlov’d
by Carfino'sWay on Jan 22, 2011 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
The red bird is ridiculously weak in that game
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Jan 22, 2011 5:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You make a good point
And the yellow one is a missile, I think we’re on to something.
by Hank Thrasher on Jan 22, 2011 6:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The yellow is badass. So is the black exploder.
Like the Koreans and Girls Generation, the Finns (I think that’s where the game comes from) must be super-secret Hawk fans.
by IPeeBlackAndGold on Jan 22, 2011 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
Isn't Herky angry?
Basketball Herky looks crazed and bloodthirsty. I guess football Herky looks ambivalent.
Such DIII-level weak-ass no-true-identity bullshit.
Yeah, yeah, I know there’s some kind of back story about how/why Cy the Agitated Cardinalishbird came to be, but jesus christ it’s just so stupid and lame and nonsensical.
Plus they’ve kinda painted themselves into a corner with their colors – how do you represent a violent, unpredictable, damage-and-death-causing storm with fucking red & yellow? Their colors should be Bruise and Gray. Dumbasses.
"If there's one thing Nixon is known for, it's class. Now let's cut this turd loose!"
- Richard Nixon's Head, President of Earth
by Bucketochicken on Jan 22, 2011 10:19 AM CST reply actions
They're not helping themselves
by changing the look of the brand/mascot/uniforms ever other week either. ISU needs to figure something out, and STICK with it for a while to build up identity (not steal USC’s look and try to pass it off as their own).
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
If I were an ISU fan...
I would be somewhere between moderately annoyed to quite pissed that my athletic department has abandoned creating any good tradition in the name of bilking me out of a few dozen dollars every 5 years.
I guess, if your university can’t keep a football coach for more than an average of 7 years, and your mens’ basketball program can’t keep a coach for more than an average of 4 years, and your wrestling team has lost the two best wrestlers in history to become coaches elsewhere, then why worry about tradition? Just do cash grabs from the 86 fans you still have.
Personally, the old yellow and red cyclone helmets and white uniforms were ugly, but somewhat distinctive. The blue and red and gold was OK, and looked like the KC Chiefs. The new USC ripoff? Horrible. So, the answer must be add a pissed-off but still dorky-looking bird back into the mix.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 22, 2011 11:42 PM CST up reply actions
Like a comment I made before.
It looks like Louisville’s. Not to mention the fact that they were dumb enough to follow Louisville’s lead and put human-looking TEETH on the bird.
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by Pain in the Sash on Jan 22, 2011 11:45 PM CST up reply actions
Looks like a cardinal with 'roid rage.
by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Jan 22, 2011 10:21 AM CST reply actions
To be fair, most mascots appear to roid raging.
Wait, we’re talking about ISU? Never mind, then. Carry on.
"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Jesus, put some fucking pants on.
"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."
by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 22, 2011 10:27 AM CST reply actions
I mean...
People do know that their mascot was originally the Cardinals? They changed the name but just kept the mascot. That’s common knowledge right? I didn’t know until an ISU “friend” told me.
It's not.
Apparently, they picked a cardinal specifically because it was proving difficult to have a cyclone as a mascot in costume. Of course, our original colors were black and gold, and they changed them because it was difficult to dye clothes black, or something to that effect. ISU, giving up in the face of difficulty since 1869.
by TrueAndValiant on Jan 22, 2011 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
According to ISU, it is true
But since this is the internet in the postmodern age, I’m sure your reality of the origin and those of everybody else on here and elsewhere is correct.
I wonder if more people here knew that Penn State's original colors were pink and black.
"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer
by ReadingRambler on Jan 22, 2011 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
I wonder if you're full of shit or if you have documentation to prove that claim.
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Jan 22, 2011 10:23 PM CST up reply actions
I have an old football program from a Blue-White Game years ago.
It’s in there somewhere.
"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer
by ReadingRambler on Jan 24, 2011 7:11 PM CST up reply actions
Ah, good then.
Going, going, going, going, going, going, going, going.... Alright, I'll stop for now.
by EnergizerHawk on Jan 24, 2011 9:03 PM CST up reply actions
Here too:
http://www.collegefootballhistory.com/penn_state/history.htm
"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer
by ReadingRambler on Jan 24, 2011 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
They are officially now
The Louisville of Iowa.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Jan 22, 2011 11:27 AM CST reply actions
Wait a second...
Can we really make fun of Iowa State for using a cardinal to represent a cyclone? For goodness sake we are the fliping hawkeyes. We are a fictional character from a book. Herky does not look like Natty Bumpoo. Can we really make fun of the Cardinal/cyclone mismatch.
See
I kind of look at us as having two nicknames. When it comes to needed a marketable mascot, we are the Hawks. But traditionally, we are the Hawkeyes. And let’s be honest, they probably started the illogical mascot war.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Jan 22, 2011 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
He's hanging out at West Virginia games
And Nissan commercials.
You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning
by The Bacon Explosion on Jan 22, 2011 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
Right.......
But it’s not like we have a tidal wave or a horse or an escalator for a mascot/logo. Hawkeye – eye of the hawk. Thus, a hawk for the mascot. It makes perfect sense.
"If there's one thing Nixon is known for, it's class. Now let's cut this turd loose!"
- Richard Nixon's Head, President of Earth
by Bucketochicken on Jan 22, 2011 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
i respectfully suggest
our secondary mascot be the pellican whore
I don't intend to upset folks with the way I write it just happens,,,
Herky doesn't look like Chief Black Hawk either.
But the UI would never use a Native American as the mascot, that isn’t PC. The Last of the Mohicans story really picked up steam in the last 10-15 years. The origin of the term Hawkeye that remember being told when I was younger is that Hawkeye honors Chief Black Hawk. Personally, I think the Chief Black Hawk tribute is a way better story but with the Writer’s Workshop I suppose it works.
by Carfino'sWay on Jan 22, 2011 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
nah
as an ISU fan that is an Iowa fan also (except the in-state games, of course)…the Hawks logo/mascot makes sense to me. There is no way we get rid of Cy…he’s a great mascot, and we the fans love him. HOWEVER…we need to stop with the secondary logo bullshit. The reason we went to the generic but clean looking I state logo was because there was too much variation in the logos. We don’t need to do that again, or i gaurntee Jamie will come up with something really shitty next time.
Yes, we can and we will
At least our mascot, per department website. is related to the history of the region. And then it gained traction because of the lobbying of a newspaper man and a judge. So hooray for them.
Actually, the name didn't come from the book
It came from the newspaper in Burlington. I would much rather it came from the book – but it didn’t.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Jan 24, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
Apparently the name for Iowans came from the book
And then the newspaper appropriated the nascent nickname as its title.
by PackerHawk on Jan 24, 2011 10:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Iowans were called "Mohicans?"
"If there's one thing Nixon is known for, it's class. Now let's cut this turd loose!"
- Richard Nixon's Head, President of Earth
by Bucketochicken on Jan 24, 2011 11:28 PM CST up reply actions
Hawkeyes, truly and seriously
Just click on the link in my previous post and then have faith in the athletic department’s website.
History goes to the victors
And I’m also not one to blindly trust the athletic department either. I’ve seen some of their work.
Not that any of it matters to me. I kind of like the murkiness of the name, makes for interesting fodder
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jan 25, 2011 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
The I-State thing is just so terrible.
Just awful. Possibly the worst looking logo in Division 1. It looks like something generated on the Create Your School function of a video game.
It really makes me feel sorry for them. Truly. All the angry bird logos are much much better and they still suck.
I have a "friend" that goes to ISu
He talks about how schools are ripping off the I-State design. And I always come back with, it’s pretty easy to rip off something generic.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Jan 22, 2011 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
Hey! Those assholes are using letters!
They can’t do that! We do that!
"If there's one thing Nixon is known for, it's class. Now let's cut this turd loose!"
- Richard Nixon's Head, President of Earth
by Bucketochicken on Jan 22, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
The I State thing is fucking stupid
Let’s rebrand ourselves and pick something that can apply to at least 3 other schools (Indian State, Illinois State, Idaho State). Then we’ll get pissed off when “I State” isn’t recognized as solely pertaining to Iowa.
It's not even the I part
He was bitching about Arkansas State doing it. I said, if you want to play that game, you copied Michigan. Sometimes, I think he’s 85% of the posters at CF by the way he argues.
Cyclone Fanatic: The pain of herpes without the lesions.
by Pain in the Sash on Jan 22, 2011 11:39 PM CST up reply actions
ZOMG we are the only school that can have a letter with "State" printed across it!!
I don’t even know if that concept can be trademarked. Aside for a specific combo of colors and fonts, probably not. Your friend is lame, but you probably already knew that.
Barrel chested, hands at hips, angry, defiant stare...
I think we all know who’s inside the mascot suit.

Ann Arbor is a trollop.
by Semicorrect on Jan 22, 2011 1:26 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
This makes me want to get some snacks.
Hey Dolph, you look like I need a beer.
by Give Eddie a Beer on Jan 22, 2011 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
Not a ATHF fan?
Because I HATE that show.
Cyclone Fanatic: The pain of herpes without the lesions.
by Pain in the Sash on Jan 22, 2011 11:41 PM CST up reply actions
I was going to make a joke about the new Cy having a gut...
but your pic above, Arizaphale, does a more effective job.
You could even make the comparison that that dude has giant bare toes, almost like the new Cy.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 22, 2011 11:48 PM CST up reply actions
you two are now lost on me
Not really, but that’s blasphemy. Shake rules.
I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.
by therealCatnuts on Jan 23, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
It's completely and inexplicably hilarious.
"If there's one thing Nixon is known for, it's class. Now let's cut this turd loose!"
- Richard Nixon's Head, President of Earth
by Bucketochicken on Jan 23, 2011 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
I've seen it sober, drunk, stoned, and on acid (4 different viewings)
It messed with my buzz every time. Plus one of my exes thought it was hilarious, and not the ex I’m still good friends with.
WOW.
A fucking Angry Birds reference gets 3 recs and I’m the first one to rec this masterpiece.
I’m sorry, have we met before? You are BHGP? Really, and you didn’t rec the shit out of this post? Are you sure you are BHGP?
That's a Chizik Nickel on that chain 'round Carl's neck.
"If there's one thing Nixon is known for, it's class. Now let's cut this turd loose!"
- Richard Nixon's Head, President of Earth
by Bucketochicken on Jan 23, 2011 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
How often do they do this?
Because it seems like they rebrand every couple years. What happened to the navy blue they used a few years ago? I don’t see it anywhere in the new logo. Has the red shade always been crimson? I thought it was more of a true red, neither of the two shades in the new logo. As someone that works with logos on a regular basis I can say this would be a pain in the ass.
well
technically, it’s cardinal and gold. The “new” colors we use are actually the original colors. Someone ought to shoot the guy(s) that came up with the “Ketchup and mustard with a side of blue mold” colors.
It was kind of fast foodie
but now it’s kind of a futuristic, pissed off Woody Woodpecker.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
I like it
The Iowa State Peckers.
Cyclone Fanatic: The pain of herpes without the lesions.
by Pain in the Sash on Jan 22, 2011 11:47 PM CST up reply actions
don't let
Jamie see this, or in 2 years that will be on our t’shirts as the secondary logo to the secondary logo.
I don't know why you posted a picture of a Kansas Jayhawk...
…but you need to stop it.
"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel
Welcome to the creativity and originality of the
Big 12 10 8-or-something-like-that.
"I wish you luck with a capital 'F'" - The Real Elvis.
Or would you say
a Pain in the Sash? Huh? Huh? Thought so.
To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.
by Pain in the Sash on Jan 22, 2011 6:12 PM CST up reply actions
You know, now that I think about it, he kinda looks like he came out of some propaganda cartoon from Ceausescu’s Romania.
"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer
Look at this evil capitalist bird.
Minor Communist dictators for 500, Alex.
So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?
Is Jamie Pollard not aware of the crackhawk backlash?
Or am I the only one that sees this as the same damn thing Iowa tried TEN FREAKING YEARS AGO? (and failed at)
by Kinnick Stadium is my Graceland on Jan 22, 2011 11:37 PM CST reply actions
I must admit...
I think this is a bit better than the crackhawk. But then again, so is AIDS.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 22, 2011 11:46 PM CST up reply actions
Anti-Iowa DipShits?
Cyclone Fanatic can’t be better than the Crackhawk can it?
Cyclone Fanatic: The pain of herpes without the lesions.
by Pain in the Sash on Jan 22, 2011 11:48 PM CST up reply actions
/cant Beat em. Copy em.
Says Jaymee Pollard
"GO HAWKS!" - only cure for Hawkeye Envy
Hayden Fry. You are welcome college football.
by BentNotBroken on Jan 23, 2011 1:03 AM CST up reply actions
And those logos actually fit the mascot name
and are both decades old. Pollard took a page out of the Fry/Alvarez handbook and decided that he wanted to rebrand with Chizik. But unlike Iowa and WI, he didn’t stick with it very long.
Also,
There are STILL Hawk fans upset with Hayden for the Tigerhawk logo. Heard some grumbling at Iowa Book just last fall about how they’ll never accept the “new” logo.
Maybe they were talking about the crack hawk.
Since it’s technically newer than the Tigerhawk and can be found on various items at Iowa Book.
by The Mexican't on Jan 24, 2011 7:23 AM CST up reply actions
No, they mentioned Hayden and how much better Herky in flight was
And I turned to see they were referencing a tigerhawk. Just let it go already.
by PackerHawk on Jan 24, 2011 10:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
well...
good template to follow, but that didn’t work out too well…
at least our angry bird looks like he just punched something
not just strutting around like he thinks he’s the shit (and on ’roids)
To be clear,
I was pointing out the straight up copying of our logos, not saying that ours were bad. This whole deal screams Little Brother syndrome.
by Third Generation Hawk on Jan 23, 2011 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
so Herky is only wearing socks and shoes?
What is he, a pornstar?
by mikjones24 on Jan 23, 2011 1:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Never did like that top one
I first remember seeing it in 1983. I was on Homecoming Council and we were working with Bob Goodfellow (who was a great guy, by the way). He showed it to us as a “new” old logo and seemed disappointed that we weren’t thrilled about it. Still don’t like it. I’ve always referred to it as the angry bowler Hawk. If we have to go old school , I’ll take the flying hawk with the oversized head.
Don Nordmann, we hardly knew ye
I like "fighting Herky."
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Jan 25, 2011 10:01 PM CST up reply actions
They should just go back to Strutting Cy.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"
Agreed.
I like the stiffarm Cy too.
"If there's one thing Nixon is known for, it's class. Now let's cut this turd loose!"
- Richard Nixon's Head, President of Earth
by Bucketochicken on Jan 23, 2011 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
'Dis guy

"If there's one thing Nixon is known for, it's class. Now let's cut this turd loose!"
- Richard Nixon's Head, President of Earth
by Bucketochicken on Jan 23, 2011 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
I still like both of these
Then again, in terms of numbers, I am old.
Nobody seemed to like the McCarney-era bird-in-a-tornado, but I was okay with that. There’s no way to reconcile a tornado and a cardinal.
Don Nordmann, we hardly knew ye
Does it make anyone else uncomfortable
That the Cyclone is not wearing pants? He’s a little too anthropomorphic to be walking around totally nude. Here’s a possible fix:

by Horace E. Cow on Jan 23, 2011 10:47 AM CST reply actions 5 recs
I rec'd it anyway...
But that would be better with an FS hat. Or Pioneer, that would be good too.
by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jan 24, 2011 6:37 AM CST up reply actions
This is brilliant.
Thomas the Train overalls put fear into the hearts of all Big (12-2) opponents. Would have been fantastic to watch this mascot duke it out with Herbie the Husker.
What's he doing with his hands inside those overalls?
Stroking the gizzard?
by Stay thirsty, my friends. on Jan 24, 2011 9:48 AM CST up reply actions
Pollard's best work remains...
the new mascot choices shown at Barking Carnival. I do not know how to do the link cite stuff, but it was entitled “A Message from Jamie Pollard” and it was fantastic. My son, who has nothing to do with the state of Iowa or its athletic teams, copied the final mascot choice simply for its awesomeness.
And, of course, ISU then beat Texas.
Don Nordmann, we hardly knew ye

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