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GONE BABY GONE: Tyler Sash Heading To The NFL

Two days ago, we found out that Shaun Prater was returning to Iowa for his senior year.  Yesterday, the other shoe dropped and we found out that Marvin McNutt was also returning to Iowa -- but that fellow redshirt junior (and three-year starter at SS) Tyler Sash was saying "see ya" to Iowa City and heading to the NFL.  Given Iowa's precarious depth at all three of the positions occupied by those guys, losing any of them is a blow to next year's team.

Sash arrived at Iowa as part of the 2007 recruiting class, the same class that also brought us Christian Ballard, Jordan Bernstine, Bryan Bulaga, Mike Daniels, Adam Gettis, Marvin McNutt, Tyler Nielsen, Allen Reisner, Colin Sandeman, and Marcus Zusevics (among others).  Along with the 2006 class, the '07 group helped form the core of the team that Iowa fielded over the past few years.  Sash arrived as a lightly-heralded 3* safety recruit -- Rivals wasn't even sure where he'd play and tagged him with the "ATH" label.  He wasn't one of the three most highly-regarded defensive back recruits Iowa landed in that '07 class -- Cedric Everson, Jordan Bernstine, and Diauntae Morrow were far more buzzed-about.  Hell, even 2* CB Abe Satterfield was talked up more as the next potential Erie, PA diamond in the rough (see: Bob Sanders, Ed Hinkel) unearthed by the Iowa staff.  There was little reason to suspect that Sash would become a three-year starter or that he would challenge Iowa's career interception record or become arguably Iowa's most decorated safety since Bob Sanders (or at least Sean Considine). 

Star-divide

But real life is more mercurial than the recruiting reports could ever indicate and things happened that opened up a path to the starting lineup for Sash -- and made him easily the most productive member of that defensive back class.  Everson and Satterfield were gone from the team almost as soon as they'd joined it after a profoundly ugly sexual assault event in the fall of 2007.  Bernstine picked up a knack for getting hit with injuries at the worst possible times -- during fall camp, when he was on the verge of landing a starting job.  Morrow was slotted into the free safety position but couldn't unseat EPIC GREENWOOD and eventually transferred to Toledo in search of more playing time. 

Sash redshirted in 2007 and there was little buzz about him entering the 2008 season.  Indeed, the safety tandem in 2008 was expected to be the same duo that had played most of 2007 -- Brett Greenwood at free safety and Harold Dalton at strong safety.  Morrow's lofty star ranking wasn't enough to enable him to get past Greenwood's scrappy walk-on past and the idea of a redshirt freshman like Sash unseating a senior and second-year starter like Dalton seemed ludicrous -- even if Dalton wasn't actually very good in coverage and he tackled like a blind flag football player.  Upperclassmen at Iowa almost never lose their starting spots because of poor performance.  But Dalton did; after another ho-hum performance to start the season against Maine, an unknown kid named Tyler Sash got the starting nod against Florida International the next week -- and he never looked back.  Aside from a few injury-induced absences, Sash went on to start every game from that point and was one of the key cogs in transforming the Iowa secondary into one of the most feared units in the Big Ten.  Granted, it helped to have cornerbacks like Bradley Fletcher and Amari Spievey playing at an extraordinarily high level and to have linebackers that were as adept in pass coverage as A.J. Edds and Pat Angerer, but Sash (and his partner-in-crime Greenwood) wasn't chopped liver.  He displayed great ball-hawking skills almost immediately (he got an interception in his second career start against Iowa State) and while he was never a big hitter, he was also a solid run-stopper.

The legend of Sash really began in the Penn State game that year, when he snared an errant armpunt from Darryl Clark to kickstart the game-winning drive that would transform Iowa's football fortunes and turn Daniel Murray into both one of the most beloved figures in Johnson County and one of the most reviled figures in Happy Valley.  He added three more picks before the season ended, giving him five for the year and firmly establishing his big play bona fides.  If 2008 was good, in 2009 Sash turned it up to 11.  He grabbed not one, not two, but three armpunts from Austen Arnaud in Ames, helping pave the way for Iowa's most lopsided victory over ISU in over a decade.  That game also spawned one of the greatest memes in the history of BHGP, for which we are forever thankful:

 

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(As always, a big thank you to HawkeyeRecon for making that image.)

But the highlight of his season (and possibly his entire Iowa career) came during the Indiana game, when his improbable/stunning/miraculous 86-yard interception return for a touchdown (the "pinball pick-six") helped Iowa turn around a 21-7 deficit and record an astonishing win.  If that play is what defines Sash's legacy at Iowa, it's hard to find fault with that since it's a perfect embodiment of what made him so special: his uncanny knack for being in the right place at the right time, his great hands, and his phenomenal runback ability (for his career he had 392 yards on interception returns, an Iowa all-time record).  2010 was a disappointing year for Sash, as it was for basically every returning starter on Iowa's defense, although he still managed to provide a little magic when he hooked up with Micah Hyde to produce this jaw-dropping defensive play against Michigan State:

In hindsight, it wasn't much of a surprise that Sash opted to head to the NFL now.  He'll be 23 in May; if he'd come back for his senior year he would have been 24 before he'd even played a snap in the NFL.  Given the short-timer nature of most NFL careers (and especially those in hard-hitting positions like safety) and Sash's own injury history (he's had multiple shoulder surgeries), it makes perfect sense that he'd decide to strike while the iron is hot.  There probably wasn't much Sash could do to improve his draft stock next year, either; he already has three phenomenally productive years on the books at Iowa and his athleticism is what it is -- he's not going to get any bigger or faster.  There are areas he needs to improve -- a technique issue here, a coverage skill there -- but that can be learned in the NFL.  So godspeed and good luck, Tyler.  We'll miss seeing you pluck passes out of the sky and start galloping down the field with them, but we understand the desire to head out for greener pastures.

So what does this mean for Iowa's defensive backfield next year?  With Prater's return and Sash's departure, Iowa will have a pair of experienced cornerbacks and two wildly inexperienced safeties.  The last time we had a situation like that was probably 2007; let's hope the newbies in 2011 are a bit better than Greenwood and Dalton were that year.  Based on the last depth chart, the early favorites to start would seem to be Tanner Miller (who actually did replace Brett Greenwood for a few plays in the Insight Bowl when ol' EPIC went down with injury) and Tom Donatell.  Other possibilties would be Nick Nielsen and Jordan Bernstine -- and, hell, possibly even incoming recruit Nico Law.  Of that bunch, Bernstine is the most intriguing prospect to replace Sash.  There's long been chatter that he's better-suited to play safety than corner and he's a tremendous athlete with excellent speed.  He also loves to hit, if the cameo appearances he's made on special teams or in nickel situations the past few years are any indication.  It's hard to say if he has as much of a nose for the ball as Sash -- he only has one career interception, but he's also played very limited minutes as a defensive back -- but if he can stay healthy this year (a big "if," considering he's the most injury-prone Hawkeye since Moeaki) he could be a very pleasant surprise at safety next year.

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All I have to say with a couple tears in my eyes is:

Thank you for everything T-Sash. Good luck.

To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.

by Pain in the Sash on Jan 13, 2011 11:40 AM CST reply actions  

Favorite meme ever.

And a big loss for the team. Good luck in the NFL, I hope it’s huge success.

by Hawkeyes on Jan 13, 2011 11:47 AM CST reply actions  

Thanks Sash! Thanks Greenwood!

Having you 2 in middle of the secondary always made me feel better.

by HawkeyeRecon on Jan 13, 2011 11:48 AM CST reply actions  

Great write-up, Ross.

Echoing Hawkeyes above, this is a big loss for the team, one that I (selfishly) hoped wouldn’t happen. But Sash gave us three great years, one awesome nickname and the greatest pic ever, so in the end, the scales definitely tip in his favor. I hope Sash finds success and riches in the NFL, it was a joy to watch him play for Iowa.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 13, 2011 12:02 PM CST reply actions  

its not a surprise.

I hope to watch him play alot on Sundays next year. ’09 was definitely a breakout year for him, undoubtably helped out by the surrounding players like Spievey, Edds, Angerer, etc.

Don’t flame me, but he looked like he was playing not to get hurt in the Insight Bowl, nevertheless, its been a joy to watch him and wish him the best in the NFL

by IAinCA on Jan 13, 2011 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Excuse me?
Of that bunch, Bernstine is the most intriguing prospect to replace Sash.

You’re telling me that we have a recruit named Nico Law but Bernstine is the most intriguing prospect? Let me repeat that for you… Nico Law.. freaking awesome.

That being said I would love to see Bernstine stay healthy and get a shot next year. I remember being all caring is creepy watching his HS highlight videos and drooling about his 4 years in Iowa City. No matter how you look at it TMFS the MF Pinball Wizard will be missed.

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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jan 13, 2011 12:07 PM CST reply actions  

Bernstine would enable us to dust off the Predator photoshops we used for Clayborn, though.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 13, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

True, but

I fully expect one of our photoshoppers to do it up big when (and if) Law becomes starter (not saying it’ll be next year. My MS Paint skills wouldn’t do it (Out for) justice.

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 13, 2011 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Note: should have closed that parenthesis after the word year.

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 13, 2011 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Caring is creepy and all

But Nico Law’s twitter (@DaNicoLaw) is one of the more amusing Twitter feeds I follow. Kid likes to chat. I highly recommend to follow him while he can still use his Twitter.

by HawkgirlSTL on Jan 13, 2011 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Following high school kids' Twitters is creepy!

You aren’t Debra Lefave by any chance are you?

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 13, 2011 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I still wish I was her student.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Jan 13, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I have a theory as to why they're always hot.

Hot girls get a ton of attention from age 13 onward, up until about the point they either start to gain weight or marry off/have kids. Usually early to mid 20s. But the 10+ years of constant attention has them needing more of it. Constantly. Kind of like an ex-NFL player craving the game or an ex-celeb craving the spotlight.

It’s a precipitous fall from adored to forgotten, so they take adoration where they can get it. And if they’re stupid enough to want that kind of attention, they’re probably stupid enough to have been very attracted to the testosterone-heavy dumb-jock-type for their whole lives. And who has more testosterone overload than teenage boys?

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 13, 2011 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

It seems you have spent time on this theory

Having a theory ready on why this happens says something about you. I can’t decide what it is… I think i like it.

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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jan 13, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I am an amateur cultural anthropologist

Or, less ridiculously pretentiously: I think about stupid shit and the meaning behind it waaaaay too often.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 13, 2011 2:11 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I do the same

I have thought about too many inconsequential things to list.

by Grixxly on Jan 13, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

i disagree

and as a unrepentant teenage mutant ninja turtle/Renascence painter fan I must place Tom Donatell-o’s hat in the ring.

Darkness warshed over the Dude - darker'n a black steer's tookus on a moonless prairie night. There was no bottom.

by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Jan 13, 2011 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

excuse my mispelling of Renaissance

and if you don’t excuse me, i keel u with bo staff!

Darkness warshed over the Dude - darker'n a black steer's tookus on a moonless prairie night. There was no bottom.

by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Jan 13, 2011 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't make the Donatell-o connection

but it’s awesome and I agree… it needs to be considered. We can just play all three of them .. we can have 12 players, that is no more illegal than the crap the SEC pulls is it?

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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jan 13, 2011 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

We're a teammate with the last name of "Order" away from having a sitcom here.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 13, 2011 1:03 PM CST up reply actions  

This was what I was thinking.

If Bernstein lays somebody out we could call the training staff the Special Victims Unit.

by Norm Parker's Amputated Toes on Jan 13, 2011 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe too soon on that though

Satterfield/Everson fiasco may make that wildly inappropriate

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 13, 2011 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Nico Law

sounds like he should be a character from Judge Dread

When I grow up I wanna be like Koeppel Knievel

by ninerhawk on Jan 13, 2011 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

or GTA

So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?

by hkobb7 on Jan 13, 2011 9:52 PM CST up reply actions  

But so did McNutt and that one random guy from over the summer

They weren’t/aren’t in trouble publicly.

So what if I tailgate to the NPR jazz station?

by hkobb7 on Jan 13, 2011 9:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I’ve been a Hawkeye fan for literally all of my 37 years, but Sash’s is the first official jersey I ever bought. I hope they don’t give #9 to some jackass next year.

p.s. What is everyone’s favorite Sash pick? With all due respect to the pinball pick from Indiana and the pick-and-pitch from MSU, my favorite was the one against South Carolina where he basically ripped the ball away from the receiver and took off running all in one motion. Play starts at 3:09 mark of this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcZoNcmYhnM&playnext=1&list=PL90300C47C6DFCAC8&index=8

by The Naked Bootleg on Jan 13, 2011 12:14 PM CST reply actions  

Of course he also fumbled on that play . . .

by The Naked Bootleg on Jan 13, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Alas,

My first Hawkeye jersey was Brandon Wegher…sigh

"I know that I know nothing." - Socrates

by the mandenberg on Jan 13, 2011 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Play it off

as a Clinton Solomon pre-top WR status.

To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.

by Pain in the Sash on Jan 13, 2011 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Or you can say

that you are a monster fan of Jason White.

When I grow up I wanna be like Koeppel Knievel

by ninerhawk on Jan 13, 2011 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Now it's a Tommy Nichol throwback.


"If there's one thing Nixon is known for, it's class. Now let's cut this turd loose!"
- Richard Nixon's Head, President of Earth

by Bucketochicken on Jan 13, 2011 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I bought my nephew a #9 jersey for next fall.

Looks like now he has a sweet Eric Guthrie jersey.

Fuck Yeah. PUNTING IS WINNING, BABY.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 13, 2011 2:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Almost bought one

Didn’t want to spend $60. Good thing I didn’t

To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.

by Pain in the Sash on Jan 13, 2011 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm actually thinking of getting one

for old time sakes… My First jersey, as a kid and it was a great Christmas, was Lon Olejniczak. I’ve met him multiple times and he was a friend of my Dad’s, still is to this day; great guy.

by Grixxly on Jan 13, 2011 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty sure Guthrie is #6

"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe

by Brock8144 on Jan 14, 2011 12:14 AM CST up reply actions  

That number should be retired

So we don’t have the ignominy of another JC6 trying it on and scarring my eyeballs again

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 14, 2011 12:53 AM CST up reply actions  

So he is.

It turns out it’s a Jonny Mullings jersey now.

PUNTING IS STILL WINNING.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 14, 2011 9:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Timmy D was mine. I was 8.

Had a D-Tate one too.

To quote John Lennon "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not."-Dinner for Schmucks.

by Pain in the Sash on Jan 13, 2011 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I should say, that I bought it before the '10 season.

Maybe I’m to blame. I do have a long list of jersey purchase curses. Ross wants me to buy a Persa jersey next year.

by PackerHawk on Jan 13, 2011 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Damn right.

If jNW even makes replica jerseys available for sale. I dunno. They might consider that too gauche.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 13, 2011 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Does Armani make jerseys?

"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe

by Brock8144 on Jan 14, 2011 12:15 AM CST up reply actions  

The threadcount is incredible.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 14, 2011 9:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh yeah?

My wife bought me a Cardinals Fernando Tatis jersey. I mean really.

by GaryDolphinSafeTuna on Jan 13, 2011 9:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

#7 is a good number.

It’s Reggie Roby, it’s Brad Banks, it’s McNutt…

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 13, 2011 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Put some blood on it and carry a cable bill and it makes a great Halloween costume

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 13, 2011 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I refuse to acknowledge that it was also the Feutjer's jersey.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 13, 2011 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Ross, I just want to set the record straight.

That Clark INT in 2008 was no armpunt. It was a sailor’s delight (Get it? See, ’cause it sailed?). Or a sailboat. Or a tacopants special.

See the 2009 OSU-Purdue game for true armpunts. Purdue’s secondary could have seriously contemplated the works of Clausewitz before calling for a fair catch.

"We do not and cannot accept the principle that incompetence justifies dismissal. That is victimization."

by ReadingRambler on Jan 13, 2011 12:26 PM CST reply actions  

Heck of a highlight reel.

Those are great clips to having going in. Best of luck Sash.

by Bridgeloan on Jan 13, 2011 12:35 PM CST reply actions  

Good luck and best wishes, Tyler

Thanks for the writeup, Ross. And another illustration of why all the fuss over recruiting class rankings this time of year is largely irrelevant. I don’t recall where the ‘06 and ’07 classes ranked, probably mid-pack in the conference and in the 30’s or 40’s nationally, yet Iowa got some very productive players out of those classes.

by telepathetic on Jan 13, 2011 12:53 PM CST reply actions  

Mother Fuckin.........................................................................................................

………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………Sash!

Best of luck, you will be missed. Great Hawk!

i don't wife em...i one night em

by smokinthereiff on Jan 13, 2011 1:06 PM CST reply actions  

A lot of dust in here!!!

Really going to miss you Tyler ‘MotherFuckin!’ Sash! Good luck in the NFL.

by Grixxly on Jan 13, 2011 1:07 PM CST reply actions  

I'm really sad that Sash is leaving!

And one of my all-time favorite posts on BHGP came after the pick and lateral… (paraphrased)
“TYLER SASH FUCKING LOVES HALLOWEEN IS HE A WARLOCK??”
My husband and I randomly say that to each other all the time.
I’LL MISS YOU SASH.

by stanzi's ex-girlfriend on Jan 13, 2011 1:09 PM CST reply actions  

I believe he wasn't even really recruited

Until Ferentz saw Sash playing basketball against his son in High School. Then Ferentz was like “Holy Shit” maybe this kid should play football for me. Sure enough…

When will the NCAA admit that it is a business with the sole purpose for making money off of student athletes?

by waterboy31321 on Jan 13, 2011 1:21 PM CST reply actions  

Not even close to one of the greatest Hawk defenders

but easily an all-time favorite. Here’s wishing Jimmer-Jammer a long and productive career at the next level.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jan 13, 2011 1:28 PM CST reply actions  

Really?

You wouldn’t rank Sash in the top 5 of Iowa secondary history? He only started 3ish years and if he hadn’t had to play coverage for the CB/LB corp this year he surely would have had more than 2 picks putting him even closer to the all time INT record. I’m not saying he’s the greatest thing since sliced bread, but give the man his due.

by Grixxly on Jan 13, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

We're using "greatest" in two very different contexts.

You’re limiting it to secondary players (where he’d still rank behind Sanders, Hanks and Spivey right off the top of my head) whereas I’m thinking Top 10 at any position. In no way do I consider that a slight for Sash as he was a special and much-loved player. I don’t know that any controversy needs to arise from that comment.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jan 13, 2011 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Okay

I agree. I don’t know why, and I can’t quantify it, but there was something special about Sash. I swear if you cut him, he would bleed black and gold.

by Grixxly on Jan 13, 2011 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Sash probably could fairly be considered a top-5 DB

We’ve not had a huge number of standouts at the DB positions as we have on the lines, RB and LB spots. The Stoops brothers were good. Merton Hanks, D-Rob and Charles Godfrey were all quite good, but arguable much better in the pros than in college. Hard to put any of them above Sash. Then, of course, there are Sanders and Considine. Sash is definitely in the conversation. I’m excluding the entire era of football when players played both sides of the ball here, or we’d be talking Kinnick and others as well.

by kingsbury_from_deep on Jan 13, 2011 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I would have agreed with you after last year.

Unfortunately I felt like he was caught out of position a lot more this year (There were a couple of plays against Mizzou that really stand out to me). Obviously the weak linebackers had a lot to do with it. I just can’t decide if it was the really good linebacker combo of Angerer and Edds that made Sash look better than he is or if it was the not-so-good hodgepodge of linebackers this year that made him look not as great as I once thought. I’m thinking it’s probably somewhere in between here. Where it puts him all time? Meh, I don’t know. Damnit I liked him though.

by SallyMason on Jan 14, 2011 12:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Somehow I had forgotten about D-Rob

one of my favorite Hawkeyes growing up. I remember one game I got to sit in the bleachers in the north end zone, and I touched his shoulder pads after he gave an interview with a reporter after the game. I contemplated never washing my hand again after that (sadly, I had to the other day after I spilled juice on it).

"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe

by Brock8144 on Jan 14, 2011 12:18 AM CST up reply actions  

There is no way in hell

that Sash is ahead of Hanks. I love the guy, but Merton was a stud in college and an even bigger stud in the pros.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 14, 2011 7:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Wegher to OU

RT @AndrewMLogue Just talked to Brandon Wegher…says he is going to Oklahoma..Asked him if I could tweet it. He said, “Go for it.” Thoughts?

"I share with you an innate desire to be of public service to this country. It is the lot of our generation to serve as military men first, and then, with an idealism undaunted to enlist with as much zeal to form a lasting peace. All will come right, our cause is just and righteous. This country will not lose." - Nile Kinnick

by KOKers_Fury on Jan 13, 2011 2:03 PM CST reply actions  

Wow. Kinda surprised that both sides would take that on (if it's confirmed)

One more year of sitting on the bench.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 13, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

There was another tweet on his page where I guess someone asked if he was planning on joining the football program and Wegher said “yes.” I’m kinda happy for him but I wish he would have come back to the team. Possible he knew about the stuff going on behind the scenes and wanted to get away from the situation (DJK, AROB)? Long shot but no more far fetched than any of the other rumors circulating.

"I share with you an innate desire to be of public service to this country. It is the lot of our generation to serve as military men first, and then, with an idealism undaunted to enlist with as much zeal to form a lasting peace. All will come right, our cause is just and righteous. This country will not lose." - Nile Kinnick

by KOKers_Fury on Jan 13, 2011 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Sure, but why start speculation that could be the start of another rumor?

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 13, 2011 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not sure why I care

but the fact that he is going somewhere good, just irritates me. In the back of my mind I was hoping (selfishly) that we wouldn’t hear about him again, or that he would be buried on some D1-AA team.

When I grow up I wanna be like Koeppel Knievel

by ninerhawk on Jan 13, 2011 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Kind of feel the same way

Don’t know why, but Wegher’s going to Oklahoma (as opposed to some D-1AA school) just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 13, 2011 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Like Bob Stoops teabagging you?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jan 13, 2011 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

That dude probably has a lot of sack

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 13, 2011 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought

teabagging would give you this shits but I don’t know much about Pelican Whore verbiage…

by Grixxly on Jan 13, 2011 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Nah

I LIKE that taste.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 13, 2011 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Sterile?

Either you or I have a fundamental misunderstanding of what constitutes “teabagging”

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jan 13, 2011 4:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Does he think it involves urine?

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 13, 2011 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

That's what I took from it.

FROM THE COMMENT!!! I DIDN’T LET BOB STOOPS PEE ON ME! WHY WON’T YOU GUYS LET THAT RUMOR DIE?!?!

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jan 13, 2011 4:37 PM CST up reply actions  

So this didn't happen?

When I grow up I wanna be like Koeppel Knievel

by ninerhawk on Jan 13, 2011 4:50 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

That photoshop is so shitty

which makes it top-shelf BHGP material. I salute you, sir…with my wang.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jan 13, 2011 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Ya, I spent a whole 2 min on it.

…best two mins of my life.

When I grow up I wanna be like Koeppel Knievel

by ninerhawk on Jan 13, 2011 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Still the best thing I've seen today.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jan 13, 2011 5:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Even after the PW interview?

wow.
/tear
I don’t know what to say.

You may call me Don Diddles.

by ninerhawk on Jan 13, 2011 5:16 PM CST up reply actions  

not really a fan of that movie. Just didn't think it was funny

And I love me some of that kind of stupid humor. Anchorman, Dumb & Dumber, Super Troopers, Tommy Boy. Love em all. But I thought Dodgeball was stupid.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 13, 2011 4:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not sure we can be friends then

"There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you're a pussy." -Mark Rippetoe

by Brock8144 on Jan 14, 2011 12:20 AM CST up reply actions  

I'll just do my own thing

when the other kids go watch Dodgeball. Maybe get laid like the rest of the cool kids

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 14, 2011 12:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Sure you will

with your Canadian girlfriend that you met while you were away in summer camp right? The one who’s parents won’t let her visit, so all we have to go on is a rather generic picture and your word. I AM ONTO YOUR GAME CATNUTS!!!!

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 14, 2011 7:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Please don't make me take the picture out of my wallet's viewfinder

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 14, 2011 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Not what I expected...

wait for confirmation before I get all worked up over it.. The Wegher rumor mill is a strong one, I didn’t realize he was home from his exploration of Mars..

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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jan 13, 2011 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

According to that tweet, Logue talked to Wegher and got the word from him.

That seems like pretty good confirmation.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 13, 2011 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah i'm twitter challenged

but I will take your word for it.

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by SaturdayMorningKegStanzis on Jan 13, 2011 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Ross

Can he hardship and play this coming year or will he have to sit?

by Grixxly on Jan 13, 2011 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Has to sit out per NCAA transfer rules. That was also posted on http://www.crimsonandcreammachine.com/2011/1/13/1933341/former-iowa-hawkeye-rb-brandon-wegher-confirms-plan-to-transfer-to-ou They don’t seem to convinced hes a quality back though…. oh and they are saying hes planning on walking on for now

"I share with you an innate desire to be of public service to this country. It is the lot of our generation to serve as military men first, and then, with an idealism undaunted to enlist with as much zeal to form a lasting peace. All will come right, our cause is just and righteous. This country will not lose." - Nile Kinnick

by KOKers_Fury on Jan 13, 2011 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Of course he can't be a quality back.

He spurned them for Iowa initially. Therefore he is a dolt and by extension, a poor running back.

by PackerHawk on Jan 13, 2011 3:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not sure what hardship he could possibly claim.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 13, 2011 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Well...

don’t want to bring it up, BUT if the rumor mill is even close to being true I would guess he could get a family hardship pass assuming he really has two additional families now.

by Grixxly on Jan 13, 2011 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

By moving further away from their hometowns?

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 13, 2011 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think having a kid is reason enough to get a hardship waiver.

There’s no shortage of college players with kids.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 13, 2011 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Again, not to bring up rumor

but if the ARob sister thing is true; wouldn’t that qualify? Hostile environment/etc? Just pisses me off that he could go to a potential mNC team and just leaves us like a fart in the wind…

by Grixxly on Jan 13, 2011 3:30 PM CST up reply actions  

ARob not a Hawk anymore.

Therefore the argument would be moot now.

by PackerHawk on Jan 13, 2011 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Except the NCAA is enept in its rules

A guy lies about meeting with Deon because he’s scared and sits for a year, whereas a guy supposedly doesn’t know his father was shopping him and get’s nothing. Oh and guys selling shit they own (even though they should have known better) get a five game suspension. /purple’hazed

by Grixxly on Jan 13, 2011 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

We often refer to "the NCAA" like it's one monolithic organization, but that's really not accurate.

It’s comprised of lots and lots of smaller departments, each with their unique jurisdiction and their own disciplinary standards. I’m pretty sure the people who decide that Dez Bryant should sit for a year have nothing to do with determining whether or not Wegher gets a hardship waiver. That doesn’t mean that there isn’t still a lot of inconsistent and frustration in their rulings, but that’s the nature of the bureaucratic beast like that.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 13, 2011 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

This alone
That doesn’t mean that there isn’t still a lot of inconsistent and frustration in their rulings, but that’s the nature of the bureaucratic beast like that.

Feels like it could be a kick in the Jimmy considering they don’t appear to have any consistency… at all.

I honestly wish him well; unless it’s a program that could reach the mNC then I think why did you sigh with us in the first place??

by Grixxly on Jan 13, 2011 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Without addressing every crazy rumor, that still seems unlikely.

The NCAA is pretty hardassed about granting hardship waivers. They seem to primarily give them if your previous school got shithammered with sanctions (i.e., USC) or because you want to be closer to family because of some tragedy (i.e., Tyler Smith going back to Tennessee or Jake Kelly going to Indiana State). Nothing about Wegher’s situation seems to fit those scenarios.

And there’s been zero indication from anyone that he might get a hardship waiver, so this really seems like a moot point. I just don’t see the point in being punitive towards Wegher. He’s already had to deal with whatever personal turmoil caused him to miss last season (and is continuing to deal with any ongoing ramifications of that turmoil) and uproot himself from whatever friends he had in Iowa City. He’s almost certain to lose a year of eligibility.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 13, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't mean to be mean towards him

But it does feel like a kick in the twins that he just ‘disappears’ and now is going to OU. I’ll admit that I’m being prickish towards him…

by Grixxly on Jan 13, 2011 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Nah, man, fuck that and fuck him. Dude couldn’t keep his shit straight, abondoned his team, and most likely cost us wins. For all I care he can go die of mouth AIDSN

the best definition of a "hawkeye fan" is as follows: a being who goes on two legs and is ungrateful.
-KOK

by cj fyodostoevskawicz on Jan 15, 2011 4:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Tyler Smith actually got a double hardship waiver.

He was too far from both his father and his armory.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jan 13, 2011 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

ZING!

or should I say, BANG!

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 13, 2011 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

PLOP?!?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jan 13, 2011 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, sorry.

Thought this was a response to the “teabagging” comment further up the thread…

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jan 13, 2011 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

There are some really nasty jokes to be made here about his progeny

Hopefully people refrain a little.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 13, 2011 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Almost got into a brawl in class today

Four guys swore that TMFS was overrated and wouldn’t miss him at all. It was on like donkey kong for a minute. That’s what I get for transferring from Iowa to Kirkwood (long story).

by PackerHawk on Jan 13, 2011 3:10 PM CST reply actions  

You're Brennan Cougill?

Guess I’m not entirely surprised.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 13, 2011 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

No, but I see how that mistake could be made.

I just decided, for a variety of reasons, to get a certificate at Kirkwood to complement my MA rather than get a second master’s solely for the technical skills I could get at Kirkwood.

That, and it allows me to see Cougs play for free with my EagleCard. w00t.

by PackerHawk on Jan 13, 2011 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I LOL'd

"They're not people, James Ingram. They're Jimmy Buffett fans."

by SomeJerkPoster on Jan 13, 2011 7:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Donatell and Bernstine will fight it out

Unless something nutty happens, like Hyde goes to free with Miller at SS with Prater and Bernstine at corners.

Just spitballing.

"I always like it better when the clowns seem to try to be happy."

by MarcMorehouse on Jan 13, 2011 5:20 PM CST reply actions  

Welcome back!!! I’ve missed the voice of the guy who knows things.

by txhawkeye on Jan 13, 2011 5:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure we all know things. Most of us just don’t put the amount of thought into football things as Mssr. Morehouse.

by PackerHawk on Jan 13, 2011 8:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Now that you mention it, "Marc" sounds like the dirty French way to spell it

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 13, 2011 9:18 PM CST up reply actions  

The Marc thing . . .

My mom and dad were, gulp, dirty hippies.

I think the alternative was Orion or August. Thankfully, my Schlitz-drinking gramps talked them off the ledge.

Promise to drop by more.

"I always like it better when the clowns seem to try to be happy."

by MarcMorehouse on Jan 13, 2011 11:32 PM CST up reply actions  

My grandmother saved me from a punny name

I was going to be (and am) the last child, and my last name is Moore. My parents were going to name me Noah until Grandma put her foot down.

by PackerHawk on Jan 13, 2011 11:50 PM CST up reply actions  

El Cazador MasCasa

Me likey even more.

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 14, 2011 12:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Well I was nearly Enrique.

I may be half Mexican, but I look like an everyday White guy. Introducing myself as Enrique would have confused the ever living out of every person I ever met. Even still, my mother claims the only reason she changed her mind is because she didn’t like the name Ricky.

by The Mexican't on Jan 14, 2011 8:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Does your mom hate Stanzi then?

I’m going to picture you as Enrique now for a few weeks.

"I want to be a cowboy. I don't want to be a panda. Pandas are boring, stupid and boring. Bad panda!"

by RossWB on Jan 14, 2011 9:08 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't think he has enough smolder to be an Enrique

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women & song. The other half I wasted.

by therealCatnuts on Jan 14, 2011 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

I think the Ricky hatred stemmed from I Love Lucy.

I don’t know why she hated the name, but I am glad that I don’t have to be the white guy with the Mexican name.

by The Mexican't on Jan 14, 2011 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Mom . . .

Don’t think she acknowledges what I do. Keeps saying I should be a professor. Conversation ends when I say “Of what?”

"I always like it better when the clowns seem to try to be happy."

by MarcMorehouse on Jan 14, 2011 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

And Bernstine was close with ARob way bak to their Railsplitter days

He’s obviously going to be at the center of something nefarious any day now. Guilt by associaton is fun.

by PackerHawk on Jan 13, 2011 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I knew my Droid browser was acting up

That belongs waaaaay up the thread in response to ChryslerKinnick’s comment about Bernstine in the picture this summer with DJK, et al.

by PackerHawk on Jan 13, 2011 11:14 PM CST up reply actions  

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